Hi Peter. I like the gravel bike. I have a Raleigh Mustang Elite from when I used to commute to work. I fitted a stempost extension due to my height - and a third party add-on to double the limited speed (15.5mph is too slow, and it was poor at decoupling beyond that). I tend to ride at 20mph. I can make 35 mph, but the cadence is limited by the 44:11 gearing. My legs won't spin faster.
I just picked up a Wabash and love it. Can you please tell me what kind of headlight is that and is it easy to hook up? Nothing in the manual about that.
I'm not sure... I'll have to ask. You could use the link in the description to see if the Parts department knows. I assumed this was all stock when I filmed it.
I am 5 feet 4 inches tall. What size should you get? On website it says small. But generally i think medium. Any suggestion? Also where can i test ride this?
I like the new colors of the Wabash RT. The one I have has a glossy fork that looks great intially but gets scratched and dinged up easily. Kinda wish the fork was flat black though for durability.
@@The1Music2MyEars It got damaged on its 40 mile maiden ride home. Put it on auto and the computer adjusted power levels perfectly and still have battery left. The range is amazing.
@@herminio001 Shucks! Well, my came with a few areas of pindrop impact damage, fresh from the drop shippers. Have to find a nail polish match for the steel blue.
@@The1Music2MyEars All goodI ordered some paint pens order a package deal that contains the base, candy apple and clear coat from ColorRite and used Duplicolor Gloss Black for the Fork. I also put some frame protection on the top and down tube and have a handlebar bag to protect the head tube.
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 ...and I have to remove it for the roof bar clamp to fit easily around the frame anyway ~ but 18.5kg for a long range mid-drive eBike is a light weight anyway
It does seem strange that motorcycle manufacturers badge bikes and add bicycle groupsets. If Japanese motorcycle manufacturers got together and built an electrogearbox they might push too hard on the bicycle industry - I guess. It's too bad Yamaha didn't put suspension on the front. A little extra weight with a battery wouldn't make much difference.
I am sure they could have used something like Pinion MGU, but that would only raise the price. Yamaha still uses proven GRX components and mid-drive motor they developed, which is fair given that these bikes cost less than 5k (and can be had for 1.8k right now as clearance). There are bikes that use gearbox with integrated motor like Simplon Pmax Pinion and Nikolai Saturn 16, but those are over 10 grands to buy!
Yamaha actually invented the e-bike back in the 90s, so they're definitely not new to this. They also manufacture the frames, motors, and batteries for all of their e-bikes, which is a pretty significant part of the full package. I certainly wouldn't say that just because they're using Shimano components, it constitutes a motorcycle manufacturer badging a bike and adding bicycle groupsets. These are very well thought out and high quality bikes to ride. They're certainly worthy of their MSRP.
With the deal Yamaha has on these right now, this seems to be a good E-bike for the price. If it were full price, probably not! Still heavy at 46lbs. The GRX 1x11, although good is outdated. Most new gravel bikes are 1x12 and you can find SRAM wireless electronic shifting on gravel bikes starting at under $5K. Oh BTW, it's pronounced Wah-bash. You are saying it too fast and putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable.
Thanks for the help with the pronunciation. I appreciate it. I'll push back a bit on the 1X11 vs 12 argument in that, when the bike has electric assist, gears become less of an issue, so one extra ratio is going to make such little difference to the average ebike rider that it almost definitely isn't worth the added expense of upgrading to that when you have the motor.
@@PeterLoweOne I agree that the difference in 11 and 12 speed is small, especially on a pedal assist bike. I was mainly pointing out that at its original $4,100 price tag, there are other bikes in the same price range that have not only 12 speed but in some cases wireless electronic shifting. Take a look at the Ari Bonneville for example. Carbon frame and fork, mid drive motor, SRAM AXS drivetrain and nearly 20 lbs lighter for $5K! I still may end up with the Yamaha at the moment because that price they currently have plus the extra battery is a great deal!
6:04 Cooling vents on the motor housing behind the FT wheel seems like a good place for dirt / mud to enter.
I saw that too. Definitely not ideal.
Hi Peter.
I like the gravel bike. I have a Raleigh Mustang Elite from when I used to commute to work.
I fitted a stempost extension due to my height - and a third party add-on to double the limited speed (15.5mph is too slow, and it was poor at decoupling beyond that). I tend to ride at 20mph. I can make 35 mph, but the cadence is limited by the 44:11 gearing. My legs won't spin faster.
Any problem to change the speedlimit?
Link to full video?
I just picked up a Wabash and love it. Can you please tell me what kind of headlight is that and is it easy to hook up? Nothing in the manual about that.
I'm not sure... I'll have to ask. You could use the link in the description to see if the Parts department knows. I assumed this was all stock when I filmed it.
@@PeterLoweOne Thanks, I'll check it out.
I just got mine in the US and the light did not come stock. I wish it came with it.
@@eosrguy1052 you got the previous model, the new RT in the video is the newer model which comes with all this.
Is that available for sale in the USA?
Yes. mine is 1-by-11 as well. My previous non-eBike had 3-by-8 but it was poor for cross-chaining; hence the fall off!
Yamaha has an awesome deal on this right now. I just picked one up for $1,679.00.
Which website?
@@kryptonitedelgado1409 the Yamaha website. They are doing a promotion with $2,520 off until the beginning of November.
I am 5 feet 4 inches tall. What size should you get? On website it says small. But generally i think medium. Any suggestion?
Also where can i test ride this?
@@shikharsharma6399 Good luck finding somewhere to test ride. If you have a Yamaha dealer near you give them a call.
The model in the video is a 2025 I believe. The model that is on sale is the previous generation.
i have the 2024 Wabash, what is the name of that light bracket adapter in the front?
I like the new colors of the Wabash RT. The one I have has a glossy fork that looks great intially but gets scratched and dinged up easily. Kinda wish the fork was flat black though for durability.
Add some clear film protection/frame protection :)
@@The1Music2MyEars It got damaged on its 40 mile maiden ride home. Put it on auto and the computer adjusted power levels perfectly and still have battery left. The range is amazing.
@@herminio001 Shucks! Well, my came with a few areas of pindrop impact damage, fresh from the drop shippers. Have to find a nail polish match for the steel blue.
@@The1Music2MyEars All goodI ordered some paint pens order a package deal that contains the base, candy apple and clear coat from ColorRite and used Duplicolor Gloss Black for the Fork. I also put some frame protection on the top and down tube and have a handlebar bag to protect the head tube.
How do you get that color? All I see online is the light blue?
I film in Canada. Maybe things are different here?
I think that is the new model 2025
Is there any difference in this model beyond my bike’s model color ( blue steel)?
New motor which is somewhat smaller, and a bit more efficient - giving 8% more torque
How is this color not the currently offered steel blue (light blue)? Is this a 2025?
I film in Canada so things may be different here.
Are you guys ever thinking about reviewing the 2024 Vespa GTV 300?
If I see it, I'll review it.
Yamaha just announced they are exiting the US by year-end due to tough market conditions.
What is the cost of Yamaha Wabash in your country?
İ m in Türkiye and 2022 Wabash (Blue color) here is 2314 $. İ bought 2 day ago.
Its $1679 in U S
I like that mine is only 15kg without the external battery - I could lift it onto the roof bars of my MB E220.
Yamaha says the thing is 20+ kgs....more than 40 lbs. How much does the external battery weigh?
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 my external battery (Raleigh Mustang Elite) is 3.5kg
@@larryt.atcycleitalia5786 ...and I have to remove it for the roof bar clamp to fit easily around the frame anyway ~ but 18.5kg for a long range mid-drive eBike is a light weight anyway
suzuki DR200s review please 0:06
Strong man.. lifting 48Lb like it is nothing..
It does seem strange that motorcycle manufacturers badge bikes and add bicycle groupsets. If Japanese motorcycle manufacturers got together and built an electrogearbox they might push too hard on the bicycle industry - I guess.
It's too bad Yamaha didn't put suspension on the front. A little extra weight with a battery wouldn't make much difference.
I am sure they could have used something like Pinion MGU, but that would only raise the price. Yamaha still uses proven GRX components and mid-drive motor they developed, which is fair given that these bikes cost less than 5k (and can be had for 1.8k right now as clearance). There are bikes that use gearbox with integrated motor like Simplon Pmax Pinion and Nikolai Saturn 16, but those are over 10 grands to buy!
Yamaha actually invented the e-bike back in the 90s, so they're definitely not new to this. They also manufacture the frames, motors, and batteries for all of their e-bikes, which is a pretty significant part of the full package. I certainly wouldn't say that just because they're using Shimano components, it constitutes a motorcycle manufacturer badging a bike and adding bicycle groupsets. These are very well thought out and high quality bikes to ride. They're certainly worthy of their MSRP.
That's nice!
With the deal Yamaha has on these right now, this seems to be a good E-bike for the price. If it were full price, probably not! Still heavy at 46lbs. The GRX 1x11, although good is outdated. Most new gravel bikes are 1x12 and you can find SRAM wireless electronic shifting on gravel bikes starting at under $5K. Oh BTW, it's pronounced Wah-bash. You are saying it too fast and putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable.
Thanks for the help with the pronunciation. I appreciate it. I'll push back a bit on the 1X11 vs 12 argument in that, when the bike has electric assist, gears become less of an issue, so one extra ratio is going to make such little difference to the average ebike rider that it almost definitely isn't worth the added expense of upgrading to that when you have the motor.
@@PeterLoweOne I agree that the difference in 11 and 12 speed is small, especially on a pedal assist bike. I was mainly pointing out that at its original $4,100 price tag, there are other bikes in the same price range that have not only 12 speed but in some cases wireless electronic shifting. Take a look at the Ari Bonneville for example. Carbon frame and fork, mid drive motor, SRAM AXS drivetrain and nearly 20 lbs lighter for $5K! I still may end up with the Yamaha at the moment because that price they currently have plus the extra battery is a great deal!
He didn't do the pose in the thumbnail. This Peters a fake.
Hahaha. True!