Why the Corvette C8 steering wheel is idiotic garbage and what it should be

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  • @TimothyCow23
    @TimothyCow23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3545

    Man yells at a wheel for 20 minutes

    • @marashah.ibrahim
      @marashah.ibrahim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      10/10 would watch again.

    • @dane.4216
      @dane.4216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ibrahim Mohsin 20/10 would watch with the neighbor’s labradoodle again.

    • @HoweDoYouDo1999
      @HoweDoYouDo1999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He can yell at it all day just know that it don’t have feelings and it don’t feel sorry for him at all 😂I swear he’s literally asking for this shit every time😂

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I prefer to think of it as ranting against those who designed such a thing. >:}

    • @tisoy909
      @tisoy909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The guy has a jet plane and dream cars while you have a keyboard. Try to learn something.

  • @bbc762x51
    @bbc762x51 4 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    So clearly GM knows exactly who buys the corvette

    • @chilitorrescano8524
      @chilitorrescano8524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes, Absolutely....
      It the Middle-Aged Bald Guy that drives with the 10 - 2 Hands Placement on steering wheel.

  • @yardbirds89
    @yardbirds89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1302

    That moment when Logitech makes better steering wheels then a car company.

    • @reynaldiwidjaja277
      @reynaldiwidjaja277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      True my G25 is really comfortable xd

    • @TeamOdiffat
      @TeamOdiffat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Lmao true. Doesn’t Logitech makes wheels for McLaren f1 car or is it just a sponsor maybe

    • @rmiah
      @rmiah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@TeamOdiffat Just a sponsor, afaik every team makes their own steering wheel, with some standardized components; ex: Mclaren makes the screens for every team.

    • @lucaskoukouvaos2589
      @lucaskoukouvaos2589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      G27 wheel ticks all the boxes he outlined

    • @JonnieGreenMJYT
      @JonnieGreenMJYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lucaskoukouvaos2589only gripe is it's a bit small tho

  • @TheDFM007
    @TheDFM007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    Casey's girlfriend: hands him a present 🎁
    Casey: Wow, thank you so much.
    I hand Casey a present 🎁
    Casey: OMFG a custom steering wheel with full tactile feel!? Bro, how did you know!?

    • @biohazardshrimp
      @biohazardshrimp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Chris I bet Casey's wife would hate the present his GF would give him.

    • @user-vx8te1id8r
      @user-vx8te1id8r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BioHazard Shrimp lmaoo

  • @jamessawley213
    @jamessawley213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1204

    I spent 20 minutes of my time listing about a tiny feature, on a car I'm never going to drive and enjoyed it. Well played.

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      :)

    • @ritchma3911
      @ritchma3911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tiny? :D

    • @DanaOrtiz
      @DanaOrtiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'll never even see one unless I go to a dealership. I still liked the video.

    • @D67578
      @D67578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Certainly not a tiny feature. You're always gonna have your hands on the steering wheel, it's one of the most important things in the interior. And you never know if he's gonna drive/buy it, and fix your English.

    • @jamesmatthews304
      @jamesmatthews304 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is right it spoils an otherwise decent sports car. Its a safety defect. Not whats needed to properly control the vehicle at high speed.

  • @weston9106
    @weston9106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +675

    *Casey’s’s wife/gf walks into him pretending to be driving with a steering wheel and swivel chair.
    “I can explain.”

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Weston White hahahahah! Like Tony Stark. :)

    • @absboodoo
      @absboodoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      " Lets face it. This is not the worst thing you've caught me doing."

    • @PixelPickaxe
      @PixelPickaxe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or boyfriend c:

    • @dustypilgrimmedia8423
      @dustypilgrimmedia8423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would she be surprised though?

  • @despondence
    @despondence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    I had no idea Matt Damon was so passionate about steering wheels...

    • @charles3111
      @charles3111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He looks nothing like Matt Damon...?

    • @ujustgotpwnd25
      @ujustgotpwnd25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I see it at some angles ig

    • @justasmelkunas2045
      @justasmelkunas2045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean his logo is a freaking steering wheel

    • @dannydethanos6994
      @dannydethanos6994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Charles in the intro with the cowboy hat he resembles Damon when he played Shelby, But no not a dead ringer.

    • @switchtheflip9422
      @switchtheflip9422 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always thought Jeffrey Donovan was a better match.

  • @mygamepowerdotcom
    @mygamepowerdotcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Forget the steering wheel. Let's talk about that flying dinosaur!

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Pterosaurs weren't dinosaurs.

    • @mygamepowerdotcom
      @mygamepowerdotcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @ the more you know 🌈

    • @MysteriRiot
      @MysteriRiot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ Quetzalcoatl

    • @LuisEPGomes
      @LuisEPGomes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ what were they then? Real question

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luís E. P. Gomes, pterosaurs.

  • @TrixAreForRabbits
    @TrixAreForRabbits 4 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Nice demonstration. But in the future: You're supposed to make burnout sounds when correcting fake over-steer. It makes the demonstration a lot more exciting.

    • @dannydethanos6994
      @dannydethanos6994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Good tip, but to add to that I try to keep engine noises between talking and oversteer.

  • @HallsoftheSummer
    @HallsoftheSummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +834

    Let's be honest with ourselves, the old men who buy it won't be using the paddles. 11 and 1 all the way to the Chilis

    • @bdd1469
      @bdd1469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      You obviously arn't aware of all the twenty somethings with youtube channels who have preordered them....

    • @bcbk20
      @bcbk20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's crazy that Jean Alesi used to drive those early-90s F1 cars with his hands at 11 and 1

    • @dilligaf0220
      @dilligaf0220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      100% WRONG!!!!
      Waffle House, not Chili's.

    • @WoolfJ35
      @WoolfJ35 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      FACTS

    • @collectiveleak
      @collectiveleak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I HATE that corvettes have become a status symbol for douchebags and a toy for old farts on their deathbed to go fast for no reason. I'm 16 and bought a silver 78 corvette, pouring my heart and soul into the fucker and then I see the people who fit the stereotypes and it hurts me to know That that's what they think the corvette is

  • @RedesCat
    @RedesCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Me: drives a 20 year old 98kw Landcruiser
    Also me: yeah that would be a terrible racing wheel

  • @forrestsautoreviewsofficial
    @forrestsautoreviewsofficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bro please help these manufacturers design a tactile paddle. I'm so glad you mentioned that! Porsche, McLaren, Alfa Romeo, and Ferrari are some of the few I've driven who get the tactile shift feel of a paddle correct. If you're going to ditch the manual at least give us some crispy paddle shifters!

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true and If be happy too. Presumably their designers are idiots.

    • @Ben.N
      @Ben.N ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo it's the shorts dude lol

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    You don't understand? General Motors has specialized in making crappy interiors for decades now.

    • @weasle2904
      @weasle2904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      C8 interior is pretty awesome tho

    • @burgerbandit3646
      @burgerbandit3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@weasle2904 yea, that's because Chevy didn't design it.

    • @corvettelifejones8625
      @corvettelifejones8625 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burgerbandit3646 who designed it then?

    • @burgerbandit3646
      @burgerbandit3646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@corvettelifejones8625 I heard it was a company that has designed other exotic car interiors in the past. I'll try to find the article.

    • @ttamcc.4674
      @ttamcc.4674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@burgerbandit3646 bullshit, no other company designed it idiot. How the hell would that happen.

  • @juandominguez8536
    @juandominguez8536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    **laughs in aftermarket**

    • @saturndesigns2339
      @saturndesigns2339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Did u watch the video?

    • @juandominguez8536
      @juandominguez8536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Saturn Designs did you?

    • @JotaroKujo-gw6ng
      @JotaroKujo-gw6ng 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saturndesigns2339 Does it matter? If you're modding the car, the steering wheel will probably be swapped out for a different one such as a detachable wheel.

    • @justingeorge7665
      @justingeorge7665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@JotaroKujo-gw6ng you clearly did not watch the video

    • @Morecommon
      @Morecommon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saturn Designs laughs in surviving company

  • @aminbajrektarevicab
    @aminbajrektarevicab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    I have a flat bottom steering wheel and it’s a huge issue when I have to catch the car in overseer situations. You just grab thin air expecting to grab the steering wheel and it’s sooo dangerous. Can’t imagine how bad is it going to be with the corvette.

    • @PeRRXX
      @PeRRXX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Amin Bajrektarevic you haven’t gotten used to it?

    • @aminbajrektarevicab
      @aminbajrektarevicab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      PeRX I got used to it in normal driving conditions, also driving fast in a controlled manner is also fine. It’s only an issue for me when you are trying to catch an unexpected slide, like a wet intersection. Otherwise you don’t really touch that part of the wheel.

    • @theerealatm
      @theerealatm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      PeRRXX lol right? I also have a flat bottom steering wheel.... never had an issue.

    • @omgvague
      @omgvague 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fat bottom wheels make the driving world go 'round.

    • @arkiepoo
      @arkiepoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@aminbajrektarevicab How often are you sliding uncontrolled through wet intersections? Save it for the track

  • @footbroke
    @footbroke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    "Why the Corvette C8 steering wheel is idiotic garbage..."
    It's not round?
    "...and what it should be"
    Round? You know, like a wheel?

    • @yeahnoway111
      @yeahnoway111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah sports cars shouldnt have round steering wheels

    • @thegamingone2148
      @thegamingone2148 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ass did you or did you not listen to the videos explication, sports cars are made for performance and not cosmetics

    • @alouisschafer7212
      @alouisschafer7212 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yeahnoway111 that only works in the real world if your steering is set up for racing aka basically full lock at 90 degrees steering wheel angle

  • @QuietRiverBear
    @QuietRiverBear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    “Designed by Boomers for retired Boomer weekend cruisers”

    • @cypher1o1
      @cypher1o1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Pretty much what I was going to say designed for the white hairs lol
      So they can feel like Steve McQueen as they drive to the golf course

    • @raymondlarimore2341
      @raymondlarimore2341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cypher1o1 ..You are a true idiot. You mom must be so proud.

    • @pemcot9018
      @pemcot9018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Shut up boomer

    • @Network126
      @Network126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cypher1o1 Gotta get a Mustang to feel like Steve McQueen lol 😂👍

    • @nathantegtmeyer1845
      @nathantegtmeyer1845 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Literally. I had 2 different GM vehicles and both the dashes cracked all over within 5 years. The dash was always conditioned with good quality products and never exposed to extreme UV. GM knew it was a problem and didn’t do a thing about it except offer me 2k off another vehicle. Not to mention my many other problems. Traded in my last GM product and got me a Jeep. 50k miles so far and not one problem and it’s the most fun vehicle I’ve ever owned. Never looking back at anything GM

  • @justinb1536
    @justinb1536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    Do you guys think the buttons on the Corvette will fade off like all of the Chevy ac buttons do

    • @fataxe1
      @fataxe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Quit using lotion and the paint won't fall off.

    • @fataxe1
      @fataxe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Vaurice Payton then the paints gonna fall off. It'll happen in every make btw.

    • @saturndesigns2339
      @saturndesigns2339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Anthony Krieger im pretty sure it happens in any gm car lol

    • @fataxe1
      @fataxe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@saturndesigns2339 it'll happen in any car period. It's a quality of the plastic and paint not the manufacturers quality.

    • @C.G91
      @C.G91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fataxe1 bullshit my honda pilot 03 Acura 07 and Toyota 04 still has paint on buttons with no fade

  • @agent_soshi
    @agent_soshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:01 POV: you’re a gauge cluster

  • @jetjox2000
    @jetjox2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Guessing the very old 10/2 came from the old tanks people drove back in the day without power steering. You definitely needed the extra leverage for grandma...

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always used a "necker's knob", those old tanks were usually 6+ turns lock-lock. Doing sharp turns at speed REALLY kept you focused on your driving! AHH the good old days....

  • @stigmsr1
    @stigmsr1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Damn you're killing my plan to get rich by selling 3D printed steering wheels and metal paddle replacements that still use all the stock radio controls. LMAO!

    • @Network126
      @Network126 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plastic 3D printed steering wheel with no internal metal frame?! 😬

    • @stigmsr1
      @stigmsr1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Network126 No, you can print with powdered metals.

  • @zaned9702
    @zaned9702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I feel like I learned a lot. Who knew there was so much science and ergonomic considerations for sports car steering wheels. The steering wheel in my 89 Mercedes 420 is huge and I love it. Thanks Casey

  • @unihughes
    @unihughes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    The 2019, $600k Ford GT has a square steering wheel and a cheap parts bin interior, but that seems acceptable.

    • @jerwatson79
      @jerwatson79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was thinking about the GT wheel while watching this vid. Curious of Casey's and other ppls opinion of the GT wheel

    • @unihughes
      @unihughes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I have a feeling this rant is more about hatred for GM and the C8 than a steering wheel.

    • @InTheZone85
      @InTheZone85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      1. does it have very large/deep indentations that allow you to wrap the steering wheel at 9 & 3? If not then yes it's poorly designed
      2. the square portion is never an issue if the steering goes to full lock without crossing your arms. If the ford gt requires you to cross your arms then yes it's a poor design.

    • @unihughes
      @unihughes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      InTheZone
      I think you’re confusing the C8 street machine with the C8.R race car. Hell if you’re comparing it to a race car nothing about it would pass tech inspection. A blaring omission would be a roll cage. I don’t think the average consumer gives a damn how their thumbs fit the steering wheel.

    • @anthonymolina7416
      @anthonymolina7416 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah same carbon fiber used in the explorer

  • @MrDeathswap
    @MrDeathswap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The feels when a $200 logitech racing wheel is better than a C-8 wheel.

  • @CaseyPutsch
    @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Hello friends, I thought it important to make an intelligent video to back up my strong opinion on the new Corvette design failure. Hope you get something out of it and have a great day!

    • @HallsoftheSummer
      @HallsoftheSummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think they want you to wrap just your thumb and index finger around the wheel, and rest the other three on the paddles

    • @mrs_radrod
      @mrs_radrod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Every modern Chevy car I’ve driven has had an awful interior design from a human factors standpoint. The Chevy Cruze has the same wheel design that you are describing. It’s horrendous and impossible to manage.
      We don’t even have to get into the interior buttons which have all be “re-imagined” by Chevy to be in the worst positions and the logos of standard operating gear are sometimes redesigned.
      Be like Toyota. They have had the cruise control stalk for over 30 years because it works and you don’t have to change it. And if I get into another Toyota I can always actuate cruise control because it’s always the same. I can always actuate the wipers and the headlights. It’s all consistent. Lots of companies are trying to push the design boundaries by re-designing the human-machine interface and it doesn’t work.

    • @Butterffinger5678
      @Butterffinger5678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Regarding the paddles, I actually thought the same thing about the C7 corvette, and I completely agree with you on the C8 corvette. Since we’re on the topic, is there any performance benefit from flattening any part of the steering wheel?

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not in a street car. ESPECIALLY in a steering rack ratio where there are numerous turns lock to lock. That is a race car thing only for rack ratios where you don't have to take your hands off 9/3 positions. It is bad in a street car. Period.

    • @shelbyavant5081
      @shelbyavant5081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Butterffinger5678 Chevy actually stated that the top part being flattened was for visibility, for what its worth.

  • @calvin8199
    @calvin8199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    "just want a sports car to feel good about life" idk man, I thought that's why we're all here 😂 ... 😭

    • @jesuschristislord7754
      @jesuschristislord7754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm buying a new 2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 6 speed manual today for $30k so I can feel good about life.

    • @dirtracer21d
      @dirtracer21d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Diksaca Yehovah 30k for a scat pack? Which state do you live in sir

    • @jesuschristislord7754
      @jesuschristislord7754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dirtracer21d - I live in Michigan but up here they are between $37k and $41k.
      I bought it from Browns Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram in Sterling Virginia which is west of Washington DC.
      Took a flight Oct 27th on Sunday afternoon, the flight delayed and they even stayed past hours to close the deal.
      Great buying experience.

    • @dirtracer21d
      @dirtracer21d 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diksaca Yehovah well hell yeah man, enjoy your new car!

  • @CLK944
    @CLK944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So basically you want the late 80s porsche steering wheel

  • @hananas2
    @hananas2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a weird thing, I study Industrial product design and one of our classes is ergonomics and specifically teaches us to think about how things are held!

  • @marioStortuga
    @marioStortuga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I always felt odd driving 10&2. I always drive 9&3

  • @allanlai_
    @allanlai_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    So this is a common problem for all sports cars these days and not specific to corvette? Maybe that’s why GM didn’t bother with it

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, theres exotic models for looks driven by rappers, women, and middle aged men, and then theres ones for performance, cherished by drivers, racers, speed freaks. Most try to do both a little, but really cater mostly to one camp, usually as a result of risk tolerance and pefrence of the owner. In this case the owner is a soulless comglomerate, run by boomers assisted by a "artsy types" who they tolerate in the design building, with low risk tolerance on an already low margin product.

  • @djkelley6649
    @djkelley6649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This was really interesting. Could you do a video like this for every car part? What makes a good racing seat, or a perfect shift knob, or tire, etc. I would watch them all.

    • @AAllinsonNN
      @AAllinsonNN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DJ Kelley this is a great idea!

    • @jakob31448
      @jakob31448 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂 love it

  • @parker.mp3
    @parker.mp3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    2:46 Kermit Gets Triggered at a Steering Wheel

  • @MarloSoBalJr
    @MarloSoBalJr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also Casey, at least here in Maryland, driving regulations changed the hand placement to *(8 - 4)* because 10-2 has been known to break arms & wrists whenever the airbag deploys. Very amazing to know manufacturers lack the knowledge of how bad they're steering wheels are.

  • @CountryCarReviews
    @CountryCarReviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Chevy salesmen: the new corvette steering wheel is optimized for road handling and ease to shift the paddle shifters
    Old man buying the car: does it get the oldies channel?

    • @mr.butterworth
      @mr.butterworth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      &Dennis Snider the irony there is that GM is clearly looking for the Corvette to appeal to a younger demographic with this huge departure from what was offered before. What GM doesn’t realize however is that millennial fuckers on the whole don’t have any money. So it’s still going to be the older men buying these, if the unconventional features don’t turn them completely off.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mr.butterworth
      "So it’s still going to be the older men buying these"
      And the small handful of millennials who managed to pull themselves out of the mud, no thanks to said older men.

  • @split--
    @split-- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    *Me as a kid riding one of those space ship kid rides:* 10:19

  • @KrustyKlown
    @KrustyKlown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    YES!!! A huge gripe I have had for YEARS!!! Why is it so hard to make a steering wheel for performance driving?? Starting with hands at 9 & 3 ... DON"T PUT THE SPOKES THERE!!! ... isn't that obvious?? I've raced Karts for decades, and my favorite kart steering wheels have 3 spokes at Noon, 8, and 4. Why doesn't every performance car have that too?

    • @Pube83
      @Pube83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because it doesn't "look" cool.

    • @wredmatic
      @wredmatic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The 12 spoke would block the gauges. Maybe 2, 6, and 10 would be better.

    • @bvp794
      @bvp794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dong put spokes at 9/3? The race wheels he said were great ergonomically had spokes at 9/3. The difference is that those steering wheels don't have airbags

    • @X11CHASE
      @X11CHASE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can definitely design a great steering wheel with spokes at 9&3, one which still also has great ergonomics held near 9&3; have tried plenty of steering wheels as such

  • @polar1474
    @polar1474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    watched this video with my Logitech g920 in front of me, realised just how good a $350 sim wheel is compared to a real car. Paddles in a good place and your whole hand can grip the wheel comfortably with alright button placement also

    • @Banditprobuctions
      @Banditprobuctions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When log I Tech lakes a better wheel on less of a budget than car companies with multi million dollar budgets

    • @aaryeshg.6526
      @aaryeshg.6526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There are cheaper sportscars that have better steering wheels than that C8 lol. Heck probably grocery getters too. It should be ergonomic, that's what matters.

    • @gwbeckerplsdotcom
      @gwbeckerplsdotcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can relate because I watched this in front of my tmx pro and realized the same thing

    • @jibbinjibberish8886
      @jibbinjibberish8886 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you still paid $350 for a toy, lol.

    • @mariusjenkins7294
      @mariusjenkins7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jibbinjibberish8886 What's it like to be poor?

  • @thenorthwestpassage2880
    @thenorthwestpassage2880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    “Please let this be a normal field trip”
    10:20

  • @Proximian
    @Proximian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Damn. I never imagined the importance of a steering wheel until now.

  • @footygod683
    @footygod683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What you talk about in the video makes 100% sense. The problem with this video is that most individuals who get luxury/expensive cars don't get them to race or track them, they get them as status symbols for their wealth. The average person doesn't care about the ergonomics of the steering wheel, engineering of the car, etc. Most people purchase nice cars to either show it off or want to put their foot on the throttle and go fast from time to time. The engineers and designers making these cars know 100% what there doing, they don't appeal to the minority of people like you who are super interested in the entirety of how the car works and performs, but to appeal to the majority that want style , tech and features.

  • @Rockit181
    @Rockit181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Havent felt the steering wheel yet... but as soon as I saw pictures I was like.... yikes

  • @devontoms7936
    @devontoms7936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    They should’ve made a C8.R inspired steering wheel. Assuming the C8.R has a somewhat similar wheel like the C7.R. Great video, and I totally agree with you.

  • @corruptqc8334
    @corruptqc8334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A lot of car has this particular issue and I hate it.

  • @Pheatan
    @Pheatan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Thats like making a seat you can't fit in!!"
    90s Japan would like to know your location

  • @arturoalejandrodiazacevedo8641
    @arturoalejandrodiazacevedo8641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    No one:
    Casey putsch: I HAVE A BATMOBILE AND HATE THE C8 STEERING WHEELS😂😂😂
    Love you Casey! Keep up the great work!

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL! Well yeah man!

  • @michaeltrout9590
    @michaeltrout9590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Why don’t you make an aftermarket steering wheel that will adapt nicely and sell it to all the vette heads to help fund your school

    • @thesexyphilanthropis
      @thesexyphilanthropis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately, It's always easier to complain. Any drive that could have gone into designing that wheel was vented out in this video... its like knocking the head off a fire extinguisher. 😬

    • @maxlombardo2702
      @maxlombardo2702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CokeandManual I’ve re-read this comment more times than I can count and still have no idea what 2/3’s of it means

    • @thesexyphilanthropis
      @thesexyphilanthropis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxlombardo2702 I looked at your reply and thought about my answer. I'll provide two versions.
      1. In the event of a fire, knocking the head off a fire extinguisher would be less effective compared to controlling the output via the trigger and nozzle. I was mentioning this, because the creator of this video went quite a while giving potential useful/creative energy into complaining.
      2. Everybody wanna see me break an egg
      Well I don’t, But I like fried rice, And I ain't got lice. Ching chow woo ching wang woo wice
      That ain’t nice.

    • @junglistmassiv
      @junglistmassiv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CokeandManual not funny didnt laugh

    • @thesexyphilanthropis
      @thesexyphilanthropis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@junglistmassiv Hmm, note to self; before making joke, consult with FishMegumi first. Got it. Liked it.

  • @adelaide7822
    @adelaide7822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly really like the idea of a one spoke steering wheel like the ones found in old citroens, you can wrap your hands around them entirely, get better visibility of the gauge cluster when the steering wheel is turned (because there are no side spokes) and still use 9-3.

  • @-Elaphe-
    @-Elaphe- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understand your feelings. There is nothing more frustrating than witnessing or experiencing the incompetence of designers ruining what has already been proven to be right in the past.

  • @nicoleyensen7062
    @nicoleyensen7062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Absolutely true, it can as bad as he said and everything Casey said was on point. It is a steering wheel designed by committee, as most modern wheels are. When you have a team of people designing for commuter cars, shart utility vehicles, and fleet vehicles and you have a further mandate for a consistent design language you get design carry-over, group think, familiarity with convention, collective imposed selective self muteism, and budget based decisions. I know for a fact that the Cruze and the Camaro had interchangeable steering wheel components, hell it may have been the same structure just different wrapping, buttons, or wiring harness but I can't remember to say for sure. What I can say for sure is that its worse than the Logitech g5 steering wheel I have for video games, even with an airbag.

  • @roberthill3207
    @roberthill3207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    C8 is out of my league but i have been looking at c4/c5 Corvettes. Love your commentary and videos thumbs up stay awesome everyone.

    • @swampcrawlerls1267
      @swampcrawlerls1267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C5 over c4 for perfomance, just my 2 cents.

  • @Get_yotted
    @Get_yotted 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s GM, they never get things right, does not surprise me

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ford and FCA are no different..

  • @EbolaSquirrel
    @EbolaSquirrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thats why I drive without a steering wheel,I just stick my finger in the steering wheel attachment hole and twist

  • @pslgreg
    @pslgreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just bought a 2019 Camaro convertible, and the salesman was telling me that I'm lucky, as it comes with the same steering wheel as the Corvette. It is going to take some getting used to, and I would happily switch, if a reasonably priced alternative shows up.

    • @eddieru
      @eddieru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he took a high risk by telling you that, i know that guy was nervous as fucking until you finished signing

    • @chinchy111
      @chinchy111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eddieru nervous fucking is never good

  • @j.hinmich5518
    @j.hinmich5518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Casey, just found your videos this morning I really enjoy them. I agree with you about the C8 steering wheel especially it not being round. However I also understand why some of the design is like it is. I am a recently retired automotive engineer and spent my last 10 years working on the design and release of steering wheel switches for one of the big 3. I have an idea why the spokes and switches on the C8 steering wheel are packaged where they are and I am sure it was dictated by packaging space/feasibility and also cost.
    This steering wheel definitely does not work for sport driving or racing and that is because it was designed for the majority of the drivers that will buy a C8. Those C8 buyers will use the car as a daily pleasure vehicle and will never do any sport driving or racing in the car. Based on your comment about making your own C8 steering wheel I think it would be a great idea if you could start a company to make race inspired and designed aftermarket replacement steering wheels for current vehicles that would be compatible with the vehicle’s OEM electrical architecture and airbag.
    As for why the C8 wheel is not round you need to watch the TH-cam video "2020 Corvette Chief Engineer Talks C8 Stingray - Autoline After Hours 489" as the C8 Executive Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter talks about the car. In the video Tadge addresses the C8 steering wheel design and he also addresses why the C8 has no manual transmission. The steering wheel discussion starts at time is (21:20) and the transmission is discussion is at time (48:35).
    "2020 Corvette Chief Engineer Talks C8 Stingray - Autoline After Hours 489"
    th-cam.com/video/BBfXm1Yczdo/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_logo

  • @wafflehunteriii3697
    @wafflehunteriii3697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wow, just realized how good the steering wheel in my 2001 jeep cherokee is

  • @JustTahmid
    @JustTahmid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a designer myself, poor design really makes me cringe. Clearly they didn't conduct enough or any real user testing during design and development.

  • @robertreynolds9228
    @robertreynolds9228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How about a aftermarket wheel casey? By the time i get around to buying one should they not have a quality one.

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      watch the whole video.

    • @sleepyskaterzzz
      @sleepyskaterzzz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you lose your airbag and won't pass inspection

    • @johnh2349
      @johnh2349 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      so lefty, were not talking about throwing an 80’s Momo in there. The aftermarket makes steering wheels that are just the outer ring and you retain the rest of the wheel.

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnh2349 got a link? that's news to me.

    • @charlie1832
      @charlie1832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bet when they come out carbontastic will be making one, I think he said in a dde video that they use the stock rings to make their wheels, they’ve done Ferrari and Lamborghini steering wheels with shift lights

  • @iverstim
    @iverstim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From my experience you get used to the feel of the wheel. I agree it's not the best design but I think you're being a little overly picky.

  • @caesarmendoza2317
    @caesarmendoza2317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really did just spend 20 mins of my Saturday afternoon watching a video about a steering wheel. And yet I’m so satisfied

  • @amininshassi6370
    @amininshassi6370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Casey, the steering wheel was designed to create better handhold positions, that's what Tadge Juechter said. Tadge Juechter is the Executive Chief Engineet for Corvette.

  • @keelangerken5154
    @keelangerken5154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Bring back the c4 and c5. Shit, even the iroc z was a driver's car with a good wheel.

    • @ericbrandt816
      @ericbrandt816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Memories....Had a Fittipaldi wheel on my Ex wifes 87 305/5speed IROC (hardtop) Camaro....Great Car! Casey just drove up prices on those artifacts!🤣

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      IROCs are remembered quite fondly. I can't recall what the tail lights looked like though.

  • @repollito5867
    @repollito5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thaaaanks finally a guy who talks about that. I have been looking on how ridiculos the steering wheels are now and you are right complete garbarge.

  • @roni6135
    @roni6135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Grown man yells at steering whee for 20 minutes.

  • @matthewjudge3763
    @matthewjudge3763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I took driving training for the track I was instructed that your not supposed to use a full grip on the wheel.

  • @mr.anderson70
    @mr.anderson70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Bugatti Divo steering wheel looks nice. I'm saving up for a down-payment on one.

  • @tobygray497
    @tobygray497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    And it's square for goodness sake! Looks ridiculous.
    That and the exhaust tips are disappointing, the rest I love.

    • @perfektg
      @perfektg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The LaFerrari has the same steering wheel design. I never heard/read anyone complain about it.

  • @saturnsam7756
    @saturnsam7756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This can be a hazard really
    You will not be able to fully grip the stirring wheel
    They could potentially loose millions from this
    Thank you for the alert

  • @jessewildman1292
    @jessewildman1292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “If that sounds too strong for you, then learn to drive a sportscar!” 😂

  • @TheFlatlander440
    @TheFlatlander440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent points Casey. But you know, they could solve the entire problem by going with a manual stick shift transmission eliminating the paddle shifters and design a true racing steering wheel. But we all know they won't be doing that now, don't we. Cheers!

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd LOVE that!!!!!

  • @reaper7032
    @reaper7032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think “idiotic garbage “ is a little far fetched bud.

  • @grantfromspacee
    @grantfromspacee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I actually just learned EVERYTHING about steering wheels and I'm not upset at all #theMoreYouKnow

  • @gummansgubbe6225
    @gummansgubbe6225 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. I investigated different hand positions after an insurance company recommended the 4-8 position. "Less chance to break your thumbs if the airbag deploys". Not a major problem for me since I have a normal car, but I still turn off all electronics when driving on wet ice. I guess that is the same as driving with 800 hp in dry conditions.

  • @rickjohnson2859
    @rickjohnson2859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hope they fix this problem when the ZO6 and the ZR1 come out.

    • @rotorblade9508
      @rotorblade9508 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rick Johnson they first have notice it is a problem

  • @L8-APEX
    @L8-APEX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dang you've been consistently putting out good content every morning now for a while. Good job Casey. And I remember getting into a lengthy arguement with my drivers ed. teacher ages ago about the correct way to hold the steering wheel (9-3). I even used the full lock example. Eventually she gave me the only reason I needed to know which was "because I'm the instructor and I said so" 😁

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a terrible instructor!

  • @fukcg00gle95
    @fukcg00gle95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this why Mustangs are heat-seeking death missiles?

  • @Network126
    @Network126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just an Uber driver, but my Ford Focus steering wheen gets annoying with so many buttons. Sometimes I press things by accident while making turns.

  • @RustyGrapes
    @RustyGrapes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “For any race car driver the most efficient way is 9-3” tell that to jean alesi

    • @RustyGrapes
      @RustyGrapes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nick Cassetta i'm aware of that, thats why i said tell that to Jean Alesi, who had a unique hand positioning in F1 (10 to 2)

  • @pretendracingcars8028
    @pretendracingcars8028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saab were onto something with the joystick for sure

  • @TheRitualChannel
    @TheRitualChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo Casey, great point that no one else is bringing up. If you like to drive, poor controls will piss you off. Thank you for the insight.

  • @RickOAA
    @RickOAA 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand the current trend of flat bottom or oblong steering wheels on current sporty cars. You're the first person to explain the benefit of using a 9:3 hold. Negotiating 90 degree corners at a relatively quick clip has always been a challenge holding at 10:2. I'll have to try it.

  • @Yung_omelet
    @Yung_omelet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This brings up the topic with Ferrari’s having the start button on the steering wheel... like..why?????

  • @MrRandomcommentguy
    @MrRandomcommentguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Today the C8 should be classed as a very capable sportscar. 20 years ago it absolutely would have been a full on supercar. I do think you're probably overreacting to the wheel though, it can't possibly have got through all the development and testing and ended up being as you seem to put it, unusable. I haven't touched a C8 steering wheel myself but logically it can't be as much of a disaster as you think.

    • @nicoleyensen7062
      @nicoleyensen7062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Simon Coles --- Absolutely it can as bad as he said and everything Casey said was on point. It is a steering wheel designed by committee, as most modern wheels are. When you have a team of people designing for commuter cars, shart utility vehicles, and fleet vehicles and you have a further mandate for a consistent design language you get design carry-over, group think, familiarity with convention, collective imposed selective self muteism, and budget based decisions. I know for a fact that the Cruze and the Camaro had interchangeable steering wheel components, hell it may have been the same structure just different wrapping, buttons, or wiring harness but I can't remember to say for sure. What I can say for sure is that its worse than the Logitech g5 steering wheel I have for video games, even with an airbag.

  • @beuman0
    @beuman0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks god I found this channel. Nearly everyone want to buy a sports car to show off, but there are actually so few that are here for real sport and passion. I'm gonna feel less lonely now I found you my friends

  • @Winner3ty
    @Winner3ty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cant you just fasten something around a square wheel and put extensions on the paddles?

  • @pat7785
    @pat7785 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My Pontiac vibe has a more ergonomic wheel

    • @jaystrock613
      @jaystrock613 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i love my 2003 toyota matrix wheel

  • @jointaimbot55
    @jointaimbot55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Not worse then the steering wheels in the newer vipers!

    • @CaseyPutsch
      @CaseyPutsch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Correct! Those suck too!

  • @Jenuin
    @Jenuin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree Casey!!!! I have been complaining about this forever. A friend said the flat space on the bottom is for bigger rounder drivers.

  • @demonsamongstmen562
    @demonsamongstmen562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alot of insight when I look for a new wheel for my car :), as well as on alot of drag cars I realize that the spray button is normally up top like he’s talking about so they have the least amount of movement super effecient

  • @reaperredni9e605
    @reaperredni9e605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I dont want the c8, it's cool being m/rear and all, but that steering wheel, and with pretty much all new vehicles come with display screens, arcade style steering wheel, and other pointless features, it just takes away from the enjoyment of driving a sports car. My celica, for example has an instrument panel, a stereo, a steering wheel with no buttons. Perfect.

  • @kamehamehaX300
    @kamehamehaX300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Okay so it’s not just me that peeped that the steering wheel is dumb.

  • @natelove187
    @natelove187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The C8 steering wheel looks like a rectangle laying brick 🧱. The C8 design is so weird. IT has a Camaro rear end and a outdated 1990’s front end. That C8 needed a redesign when it launched in 2020. GM CEO Mary is SAD

  • @Mystery_Meat
    @Mystery_Meat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so cool that you film these in your actual garage, that turbine batmobile is real people, REAL!

  • @truthbetold89
    @truthbetold89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mid engine 0-60 in under 3.5 sec, if it's not a super car I don't know what is.

    • @skarloey2334
      @skarloey2334 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      a super car isn't just performance, its why the last gen NSX wasn't a super car even though it had the shape and performance it lacked the tech and luxury options being offered as standard on super cars.

    • @truthbetold89
      @truthbetold89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first gen NSX was definitely not a super car it lacked in horsepower and speed when compared to competitors.

  • @dominodd3879
    @dominodd3879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "aergonomics"

  • @joshbrown811
    @joshbrown811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good thing most C8 drivers will only drive it on sunny days and always go at least 10 under the speed limit.

  • @church493
    @church493 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For different car and with different aftermarket wheel i got same drawback. And of course found out it too late. Glad to see that it's not just me finding not able to wrap around wheel fingers on 9-3 position as ergonomic issue. Yes, wheel provided few other nice bits, for example smaller diameter, 2cm closer to driver offset .. but i couldn't wrap around fingers and it drove me nuts :(

  • @victorsaloum9731
    @victorsaloum9731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    its gonna be a widowmaker American car bois don't know snap oversteer.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The MR-2 kinda comes to mind....

    • @victorsaloum9731
      @victorsaloum9731 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost all American car guys especially geriatric corvette owners don’t know shit when it comes to driving they just mash the gas.

  • @harrysmith2431
    @harrysmith2431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Important point made!

  • @timferguson1526
    @timferguson1526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should have just used the Knight Rider aircraft yoke!

  • @sarges1712
    @sarges1712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    part of it, imo, is the simple fact 99% of drivers have no clue how to properly drive. Not saying I do either but at least I hold the wheel as proper as I can, don't text or use my phone, eat, drink, drive with tunnel vision, left lane hog, etc. But these companies are designing these vehicles for your casual driver. The guy just hops in his car and drives as a tool. A boring task they need to deal with to get from point A to B. Not driving because it's enjoyable. Same reason the manual is dying imo.
    Whats funny is I've hated most steering wheels I've had in my cars but couldn't figure out quite why that was. Simple stupid, yes, most cars have several electronics attached now so there's that bulking piece of plastic at 3 & 9....