Awesome value. They will sell the heck out of this package. Are 95% likely to use the extra capabilities? No. But the whole car is already well into the realm of the excessive. This is a supercar; guys are going to want it supercar'ed out. I probably would too. (But I think I'd honestly rather a C7 grand sport w/ manual. For now.)
Ordered mine today! I went with the Z51 but didn't pick up the MGRC. Please, subscribe for upcoming content. First Video will launch this week! Let the C8 countdown begin!!!!!
Imagine if you could put a cost on each of those items individually. We know the exhaust item is 1195. I think the other 8 items are well worth 3805. Even if you don't track the car the value of the Z51 package speaks for itself.
I bought a C8 HTC Z51 1LT. It’s awesome I’m more of a performance option guy than a luxury option guy. The only thing I miss is not getting the 2LT or 3LT is the heads up display. For me the extra HP and louder exhaust is nice. I drive all my Corvettes aggressively so it’s worth having the Z51. One thing that wasn’t mentioned in the video is resale. From what I learned about the resale of Corvettes, I’ve owned 8, the higher optioned the car is the more it holds it’s value.
@adam dev _ Don't ask this on You Tube. Ask this to those who drive Porsche's Lamborghini's, Aston Martin's, Audi R8's, McLaren's, Even BMW M owners. You will find them at dealer service stations and European car repair shops.
I believe the best reason to buy the Z51 package even if you don't track it is resale. Many people just like to have extras are the car may be worth more with Z51 and perhaps sell more quickly.
The Z51 package is still the best deal - the elsd make a big difference, without it under hard acceleration the base C7 can get loose in a hurry, mag ride is fantastic to smooth out irritating teeth rattling little imperfections in the road and in doing so makes for less road noise in the cabin and the Z51 corners flatter and you just feel more secure on the road, and in being more stuck to the road cornering response is quicker this is nice on regular roads too not just on the track. It just makes a world of difference in the C7 and I think will do the same in the C8 since it is so much quicker. I don't like the looks of the spoiler but the high wing is over $1000 more and is a rear end tear down at the dealer I can't justify getting the high wing since I've already paid for the other spoiler- I will see what the after market has tow offer. Also the 400lbs of downforce is at 180mph! I will not see that number unless I'm in an airplane 150 is MY top speed what I'd like to know is how much downforce is there at 80 or 90mph
This video was very well done. I’ve ordered a 2022 C8. I opted not to get the Z51 package because I have no intention to track the car. However, if you do intend to track your car then I feel strongly the Z51 package is a MUST have option.
Thanks. I very much appreciate that. I basically watch you and Rick Conti as my legitimate sources for information on the C8. I currently own a 2016 Stingray 3LT with the Z51 package, but kind of want to wait to see what the Grand Sport and Z06 cars will be. I'm so excited about the C8 and look forward to your videos to keep me updated and informed so thanks again.
If you intend to track your car the Z51 package is a MUST option. If you are not going to track your car save your money. I did track my C7. When I bought my C8 I knew I was not going to track the car so no Z51 for me. Cheers!
@@Agent77X Where do you live? In real snow country smooth roads everywhere is a Unicorn to the best of my knowledge. Some are smooth but many are not. But if you live where there are good ski areas and smooth roads I might want to move there. But I would still want the MR because even smooth roads like in North Carolina have some bumps everywhere, only brand new roads are velvet, and most roads have expansion strips so when the MR absorbs the bumps tiny and larger they do it so well that there is a lot less cabin noise so you can enjoy that great V8 sound or just talking to your passenger, it's amazing how intrusive the road bump noise is until you experience it not being their/or greatly reduced. The MR smooths those out and the car stays STUCK to the road noticeably better. Jim Mero is GA GA over the MR and says the Z06 and ZR1 would never have done as well without it. Mero now is going around the country reflashing C6s for a fee at big Corvette shows etc. GMs MR is so good that Ferrari not puts it in all their cars. The new MR in the C8 is supposed to be noticeably better as it is the 4 gen and the 2018/19 MR was a lot better than the 2014/15 MR so much so that GM was offering a reflash of the new spec Mero developed (for a fee of course) I just wish the Z51 had a better looking spoiler I really don't need 400lbs of downforce cuz I'm never going 180mph my top speed is 150 and I don't know how much downforce you get at 60-90 mph. I will probably replace it with a nice low spoiler when the after market catches up (depending)
The most disappointing thing with the new C8 is that MRC is only a Z51 option. I had read it was much more geared towards comfort that previous generations so it defies logic that it's not a generally available option.
I think youve left off one item on the Z51 package and that is, a different axle drive that makes it get to 60mph in 2.9 seconds which does lower the top speed from 194mph to like 184mph or 186 etc. Nicely made video, cheers!
If you add up all these options separately, then it is a great deal. Also this package helps resale value. How much? Also there is the cool factor. Buying s Corvette is a cool factor statement. Having that Z51 badge only adds to that.
If you maxed out the options and broke the 100k barrier, this car would still be a bargain. There is nothing like this car in existence for anywhere near this price. I fully expect in the next few weeks to get a full review from the serious reviewers saying there is nothing even close on track and street to this car in this price range. I would put money on this frame design being better than anything in the industry without a carbon tub, and with. Nobody actually paid attention to the presentation. GM came up with a entirely new design process in frame design. People still think that a DOHC engine is better in this application when the car does 3.0 seconds with 500hp. Could anyone imagine what a LT5 would do.
Problem is that you get so much in that Z51 package that it’s hard to overlook. If they just included MRC and made it 5500 to 6000, it would be an impassable value
And honestly I would like to say thank you to Chevrolet for making a great car that is affordable for the working man or woman, and not for some rich kid who doesn't know what a socket wrench looks like. #GM4life 🇺🇸💪
Well the Zora button is a good example. You can have your magnetic suspension set up to your preferences as well as the rest of the car settings and when you hit the Zora button the car tailors itself to you. But l would imagine even without the FE4 suspension the car would handle well. In my opinion Z51is a must have for a sports car enthusiast. Plus the splitter and tasteful rear spoiler and other improvements. The magnetic suspension is not a must have, but works well on the ZL1. On a personal note having specked my car to cost exactly eighty thousand dollars. l would be extremely happy with it at that price point which includes the Z51 package and FE4.
Ferrari has a Mag Ride option but it’s not made by GM, however GM and Ferrari have shared information over the years, case in point, Ferrari helped GM design and develop the 8 spd auto for the C7’s
@@wrzl1675 MagneRide was pioneered by GM subsidiary Delphi, it's GM Tech in Ferrari 599 Ferrari F12berlinetta Ferrari California Ferrari FF Ferrari 458 Italia La Ferrari Lamborghini Aventador www.wardsauto.com/news-analysis/ferrari-picks-magneride
i have the non z51 2021 2 lt c8 and its an amazing car. dont need the small extras that the z51 has its plenty quick and great to drive everyday. i have the front lift gt2 seats and yadayada its a fun car
Same case for me with the Z51, especially the Magnetic Ride, Carbon Fiber Interior Trim, Engine Appearance Package, Bright Red Brake Calipers, Spectra Gray Trident Wheels, and Body Color Accents. Torch Red for me please!🍓🍒❤😎 *Prince's Little Red Corvette starts playing*
I ordered my 2022 3LT Z51 fully loaded with front lift because for me it just makes sense. I’m probably not going to track it but love the extra equipment and features plus ya only live once might as well get it all. Hope you’re enjoying your corvette!!!!
Having the magnetic ride control & ESL make this a decision I can make in about 2 seconds. For the novice driver this car can get you in a world of hurt if you're over aggressive & that ESL can bail you out of some embarrassing & expensive moments. The magnetic ride speaks for itself, as others have posted if Ferrari copied it then you know it's a legit must have.
MRC is fantastic. Have it on my truck and it takes potholes and bumps like a champ, also activates when it senses tight turns at high speeds. Struts are expensive to replace but well worth for the extra comfort. Only difference between the truck and sport car ones is the dial in the camaros and vettes leave wthem fully active in sport and track modes.
This was the MOST informative review of the upcoming C8. Thanks so much for this. I'm curious how the C8's suspension/ride will be WITHOUT the Z51 package.
What you get for $5000: Corvette: better tires, suspension, exhaust, spring seats, better breaks, upgraded cooling, ELSD, a rear spoiler, etc... McLaren: A leather logo
The bigger brakes and tires on the Z51 can be a big deal as a daily driver especially if you live in deer country and a lot of us do. Stopping several feet shorter can make the difference between hitting something or some idiot who steps out into traffic a big deal or just a kid or a dog. I experience this at least twice a month and because I am always scanning the sides it has been somewhat close a few times a yr but unless you are constanting scanning the sides and most people don't 5 or 10 ft is huge.
This video was very well done and thought out. You are quite right. My C7 did have the Z51 package. I’ve recently sold that car and am awaiting my 2022 C8. Prices are now higher than 2020 prices. I’ve opted on not getting the Z51 package. I feel it is just too expensive for a daily driver. Now that being said if you are planning to seriously track your C8 then I consider the Z51 package a MUST HAVE option. Cheers!
Great info & detail. I did spec the z51 & hope to get some track time in. I also considered resale value as a potential plus with the z51 vs without it.
If your going to be one of the first buyers I personally think you should get it. The rear camera/nicer interior/optional lift front its a no brainer. I had a spot to get a early one however have decided to do one of 2 things. Wait for the awesome Z06 or buy a unused low mileage from someone who bought early and I’ll get a bargain. Just saying.
Tom Dickson waiting for a used one is much smarter. I completely agree. Big reason I am buying right away is I need a new car as my current one is beginning to have issues and my channel will benefit from it. The Z06 will be incredible so I don’t blame you for waiting!
For me, a hard core sports car and track day fan, the Z51 pacage is not enough. I'll wait another year for the Z06 package with wider track focuses wheels and sticker tires, race bolsyered seats, carbon ceramic brakes. and hopefully even better track suspension and more power. :)
I'm looking forward to seeing the Grand Sport. I don't need/want 800 turbo charged HP; even on a track. (I don't think, at least not yet) But all the other Zo6 handling goodies are very tasty and tend to end up on the Grand Sport with a base motor.
The base C7 did have cooling issues for the transmission. The 2016 Z51 package and all other Z51 years after that have a second radiator added for better cooling.
My 2015 C7 is not a Z51 car and it is spectacular, however I drove a new 3LT Z51 last summer and the steering and suspension was so responsive it was like driving a go cart. I am always a little leery of the tendency of the back end of the C7 to want to come around when subjected to hard driving, so the idea of the best possible suspension under that much horsepower did not seem too silly, so I ordered the Z51.
I went for the 2024 1LT in Cacti-green, the only options were the NPP exhaust and PPF for the front from the dealer. Got the car new for $67k plus taxes and stuff... Nice exhaust, cool color, 10 speaker Bose, power everything, leather everything, digital rear view mirror, etc... What else does one really need, for the daily driver, weekend toy and maybe a track day once a year?
They should have added a slick bottom option with a diffuser, it would greatly improve down-force, they could add doors underneath fixed by screws for changing oil and other common access places
All season tires might keep you out of a 70 mph hydroplaned spin, the trees come up really fast! For 5 HP just bring lots of cash, mag ride and lift don’t come with the 5k price! The big disks only give up 1/2” additional sweep!
1.) Better cooling might be beneficial if driven in a hot climate like Phoenix, Az., where 110++ degrees is normal for 3+ months of the year. But even if the engine doesn't show at the dash temp gauge as 'over' heating, it will be running hotter than if you lived in say Colorado and other cooler areas. Especially if the engine is required to hump over mountain and high hills. 2.) Don't both issues of the C8 come with equal amounts of brake cooling? 3.) Do - Don't take the Z51 package? It seems to me that when it comes to resale, this package would definitely open more buyers, as some wouldn't consider buying a non Z51 Vette. Finally, I would like to hear a response concerning the upgraded cooling. Thanks
Recently I placed my order for a brand new C8 Corvette. I decided to forgo the Z 51 package because my vehicle will never go on a race track and $6000 a lot of money I can use it on other things for the car.
I'd love a better, safer and more fun daily than the base c8. In other words, add the following to the base car: For convenience and comfort: - FLS (front-lift system) - MRC (magnetic ride control), - All-season tires (no summer-only tires) - standard suspension (no performance suspension and rougher ride) For better safety: - eLSD (electronic limited-slip differential), - bigger brake rotors (for shorter stopping distance) For more fun: - performance exhaust, - adjustable threaded spring seats (to lower the car). I know, I know, GM engineer has not solved the problem of raising the front with the front of the car lowered. - base rear spoiler (no ugly drooping rear spoiler) - manual transmission (that doesn't exist!). Most of us buy this kind of car more for fun driving and less for extreme performance. Hope GM can adjust and provide these options for a reasonable cost. They will definitely sell more C8 with it.
Z51 package is must have even if u dont track your car. Too valuable to omit it just to save $100 a month on your C8 car note if you finance it. Plus it adds to your resale value. Good luck selling a used C8 without Z51 package. Plus it gives you magnetic ride control which is a sin not to have in today's higher end sports cars. Last but not least, you have no business buying a C8 if you are concerned about paying an extra $5K for the Z51 package. Its worth the $5K all day. Paying extra for the big wing, carbon fiber exterior and interior, engine appearance, two tone leather seats, carbon fiber roof. All are money wasters that you will never get back and only drastically drive up the cost of your C8..
I dont like the spoiler in the back plus i dont track it plus the base will be a smoother ride than the z51 and i like smooth rides. Z51 to me just gives you elsd, the spoiler and suspensions, and tires. Everthing else can be option out for without the z51. Z51 is track useful only unless you just like the feel of the road.
@@epicxelxl8324 That's not the issue. The non Z51 package will be a stripped out car with poor resale value because most enthusiast want the Z51 package and that is fact. Check the forums if u dont believe me. It's just like the lowly C7 1LE package which nobody wanted...
Magn-ride suspension!!!!! Wow!! Yes! I had no idea how well this worked.. and the Night-and-day difference between the driving modes. No clue a Corvette could ride that softly in Touring Mode??? What??? Rides nicer than my A6 and wifeeez BMW X3.
I guess the danger of overloading performance features on a base model is that it comes too close to the Z06 which will have a lot of those features standard...if you are patient enough for the Z06 to come out.
As usual your presentations are right on. I look forward to seeing more. Do you have any idea when your C8 will arrive? I ordered mine 2 weeks ago and still have no idea when it will arrive. Thanks.
Just get a second set of wheels with the Michelin A/S 3+, they're actually a really good tire. I've used them on track and they break in a predictable easy to manage way.
@@hby7768 I had them on a C6 and now on my C7 Grand Sport, both cars have been driven hard in the mountains and even though they're not a track tire they work well for getting started as I was a couple years ago.
Well. Got my corvette as a "used car" eith 1100 miles on it. Its hard top Convertable with magnaride and sports exhaust. Did not have z51 package. I traded in a 750 ho mustang for this slow car lol. Mostly my concern is adding cooling to the car for track days. Brakes will be taken care of with pads and brake fluid. Mostly interested in seeing if i can add the brake cooling kit to it and an oil and trans cooler. The oil and trans cooler is going to be interesting as i dont even know if you can get those or need to be custom fab
I have 2 questions, i am not a car person so sorry for my stupidity lol How did he get the spoiler at 9:07? Like what does he mean that it is a "dealer option"? also i live in chicago so are summer only tires REALLY not supposed to be used in winter? Would it actually be that bad using them in the cold?
I like the C8. Might be able to order one next year for the 2021 model year when they get a few bugs worked out. I kinda want to order a bone stock one just because it's already so nice. The options aren't really worth it to me. Only option I want is the accelerate yellow that's $500 (probably a tough car to find lol). The exhaust, spoiler, and brakes are good but not worth 5k to me.
I’m my opinion it’s always better to purchase a Corvette with as many upgrades as possible because they have better resale value and most of the upgrades would cost more if you put them on later.
I would like to get the Z51 with the mag ride, and electronic diff. Except with the standard gear ratio. The lower gear would be great for drag racing, but i prefer the taller gearing for road racing. It is nice to be able to use first gear more then a few feet!!
Randall Mason I didn’t think anyone had driven any C8 yet? But you’ve gotten to try out both at your favorite track? As soon as the embargo is up please post the video!
Summer tires? Rougher ride? That means I need to buy, own, insure and garage 2 cars and possibly get spinal surgery at some point. What's the cost of that?
I own the C6 with the Z51 and 6-speed. Love the lower end grunt off the line, but I've never tracked it. Concerning my 2020 C8 purchase... I'd love to get the Z51... but PLEASE, Tadge, let me delete the spoiler from the factory!!!! I'll even pay a hundred bucks to delete it.
If you don’t track, you don’t need a car like corvette at all. Tracking or not is not the reason ppl getting the car, the z51. You don’t need many things, you just want them.
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The Z51 Package looks to be great value, but is it right for you?? Let me know your thoughts below!!
Awesome value. They will sell the heck out of this package. Are 95% likely to use the extra capabilities? No. But the whole car is already well into the realm of the excessive. This is a supercar; guys are going to want it supercar'ed out. I probably would too. (But I think I'd honestly rather a C7 grand sport w/ manual. For now.)
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which of the z51 features are available even without the z51 package?
Ordered mine today! I went with the Z51 but didn't pick up the MGRC. Please, subscribe for upcoming content. First Video will launch this week! Let the C8 countdown begin!!!!!
The spoiler steals speed. You get better 0-60, a tenth of a second, but your top speed drops by 10mph.
I can't even afford a corvette tire but here I am watching this video
Imagine if you could put a cost on each of those items individually. We know the exhaust item is 1195. I think the other 8 items are well worth 3805. Even if you don't track the car the value of the Z51 package speaks for itself.
The biggest reason to buy Z51 you didn't mention, Although I may never use it for track, the next owner may. The resale value will be worth it.
I bought a C8 HTC Z51 1LT. It’s awesome I’m more of a performance option guy than a luxury option guy. The only thing I miss is not getting the 2LT or 3LT is the heads up display. For me the extra HP and louder exhaust is nice. I drive all my Corvettes aggressively so it’s worth having the Z51. One thing that wasn’t mentioned in the video is resale. From what I learned about the resale of Corvettes, I’ve owned 8, the higher optioned the car is the more it holds it’s value.
Not sure how much downforce I need driving to Taco Bell...
For real...
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@adam dev _ Don't ask this on You Tube. Ask this to those who drive Porsche's Lamborghini's, Aston Martin's, Audi R8's, McLaren's, Even BMW M owners. You will find them at dealer service stations and European car repair shops.
You need it when you leaving trust me
All of it.
I believe the best reason to buy the Z51 package even if you don't track it is resale. Many people just like to have extras are the car may be worth more with Z51 and perhaps sell more quickly.
You will never get anywhere near the $5k on resale so unless you track it would be a waste of money plus car looks much better without the spoiler.
The Z51 package is still the best deal - the elsd make a big difference, without it under hard acceleration the base C7 can get loose in a hurry, mag ride is fantastic to smooth out irritating teeth rattling little imperfections in the road and in doing so makes for less road noise in the cabin and the Z51 corners flatter and you just feel more secure on the road, and in being more stuck to the road cornering response is quicker this is nice on regular roads too not just on the track. It just makes a world of difference in the C7 and I think will do the same in the C8 since it is so much quicker. I don't like the looks of the spoiler but the high wing is over $1000 more and is a rear end tear down at the dealer I can't justify getting the high wing since I've already paid for the other spoiler- I will see what the after market has tow offer. Also the 400lbs of downforce is at 180mph! I will not see that number unless I'm in an airplane 150 is MY top speed what I'd like to know is how much downforce is there at 80 or 90mph
Can't wait to drive my z51 mag ride thru the mountains from n.c. to Michigan last hurrah at 73!
Totally optioned out it is far better than any Porsche ever built!
umm what? Any?
I dont know about that (911 turbo, GT2, GT3 and GT4 all track monsters) but the C8 is definitely a contender for sexiest car under $250k
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This video was very well done. I’ve ordered a 2022 C8. I opted not to get the Z51 package because I have no intention to track the car. However, if you do intend to track your car then I feel strongly the Z51 package is a MUST have option.
You're doing a lot of research to keep is updated and I, for one, sincerely appreciate it. Great information and details in this video.
Thanks Doug! I strive for quality video's that actually help my subscribers! My hope is when I get the C8 I can continue to do so! Hope you are well!
Thanks. I very much appreciate that. I basically watch you and Rick Conti as my legitimate sources for information on the C8. I currently own a 2016 Stingray 3LT with the Z51 package, but kind of want to wait to see what the Grand Sport and Z06 cars will be. I'm so excited about the C8 and look forward to your videos to keep me updated and informed so thanks again.
Nice summary. I went with the Z51 package for my C8.
Vic Holtreman thanks for sharing. I am as well! Glad you enjoyed the video!
If you intend to track your car the Z51 package is a MUST option. If you are not going to track your car save your money. I did track my C7. When I bought my C8 I knew I was not going to track the car so no Z51 for me. Cheers!
I went with a Billboat Bullet and it is LOUD ALL the TIME. Love it.
For my driving expectations? yes...z51 and fe4 are a definite for me...
if you live in Michigan or any snow country state with rough roads you will love the mag ride
mike d. What about snow country with smooth highways?
@@Agent77X Where do you live? In real snow country smooth roads everywhere is a Unicorn to the best of my knowledge. Some are smooth but many are not. But if you live where there are good ski areas and smooth roads I might want to move there. But I would still want the MR because even smooth roads like in North Carolina have some bumps everywhere, only brand new roads are velvet, and most roads have expansion strips so when the MR absorbs the bumps tiny and larger they do it so well that there is a lot less cabin noise so you can enjoy that great V8 sound or just talking to your passenger, it's amazing how intrusive the road bump noise is until you experience it not being their/or greatly reduced. The MR smooths those out and the car stays STUCK to the road noticeably better. Jim Mero is GA GA over the MR and says the Z06 and ZR1 would never have done as well without it. Mero now is going around the country reflashing C6s for a fee at big Corvette shows etc. GMs MR is so good that Ferrari not puts it in all their cars. The new MR in the C8 is supposed to be noticeably better as it is the 4 gen and the 2018/19 MR was a lot better than the 2014/15 MR so much so that GM was offering a reflash of the new spec Mero developed (for a fee of course) I just wish the Z51 had a better looking spoiler I really don't need 400lbs of downforce cuz I'm never going 180mph my top speed is 150 and I don't know how much downforce you get at 60-90 mph. I will probably replace it with a nice low spoiler when the after market catches up (depending)
I got mine 1LT + Z51. Autocross + Cars & Coffee
Finally someone makes a video about this.
The most disappointing thing with the new C8 is that MRC is only a Z51 option. I had read it was much more geared towards comfort that previous generations so it defies logic that it's not a generally available option.
I think youve left off one item on the Z51 package and that is, a different axle drive that makes it get to 60mph in 2.9 seconds which does lower the top speed from 194mph to like 184mph or 186 etc. Nicely made video, cheers!
Starting with a brand new 1960 fi Corvette, waiting for over 60 years for a mid engine,finally my best and last C8 convertible in sunny scottsdale,az!
If you add up all these options separately, then it is a great deal. Also this package helps resale value. How much? Also there is the cool factor. Buying s Corvette is a cool factor statement. Having that Z51 badge only adds to that.
If you maxed out the options and broke the 100k barrier, this car would still be a bargain. There is nothing like this car in existence for anywhere near this price. I fully expect in the next few weeks to get a full review from the serious reviewers saying there is nothing even close on track and street to this car in this price range. I would put money on this frame design being better than anything in the industry without a carbon tub, and with. Nobody actually paid attention to the presentation. GM came up with a entirely new design process in frame design. People still think that a DOHC engine is better in this application when the car does 3.0 seconds with 500hp. Could anyone imagine what a LT5 would do.
I wouldn't call it a bargain. You could buy a small home in Kansas for a little more than that.
@@nerychristian Its only a value for supercars.
Problem is that you get so much in that Z51 package that it’s hard to overlook. If they just included MRC and made it 5500 to 6000, it would be an impassable value
And honestly I would like to say thank you to Chevrolet for making a great car that is affordable for the working man or woman, and not for some rich kid who doesn't know what a socket wrench looks like.
#GM4life
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Affordable? 😅😅. Thats a Chevy cruze.
I learn something new on every one of your videos. This time its the available threaded spring seats. THANK YOU!
Well the Zora button is a good example.
You can have your magnetic suspension set up to your preferences as well as the rest of the car settings and when you hit the Zora button the car tailors itself to you.
But l would imagine even without the FE4 suspension the car would handle well.
In my opinion Z51is a must have for a sports car enthusiast.
Plus the splitter and tasteful rear spoiler and other improvements.
The magnetic suspension is not a must have, but works well on the ZL1.
On a personal note having specked my car to cost exactly eighty thousand dollars. l would be extremely happy with it at that price point which includes the Z51 package and FE4.
I like my 1967 corvette with the modified 427 4sp manual with upgraded suspension and brakes along with other items.
Ferrari uses GMs magnetic rid control system.
My GOD!!!!!😮
Have it on my Chevy SS sedan, MAG ride is phenomenal. so dynamic, I put it in performance mode just for turns sometimes, its that seamless and quick.
Ferrari has a Mag Ride option but it’s not made by GM, however GM and Ferrari have shared information over the years, case in point, Ferrari helped GM design and develop the 8 spd auto for the C7’s
@@wrzl1675 MagneRide was pioneered by GM subsidiary Delphi, it's GM Tech in Ferrari 599
Ferrari F12berlinetta
Ferrari California
Ferrari FF
Ferrari 458 Italia
La Ferrari
Lamborghini Aventador
www.wardsauto.com/news-analysis/ferrari-picks-magneride
Randy Carlisle sorry gm design.
i have the non z51 2021 2 lt c8 and its an amazing car. dont need the small extras that the z51 has its plenty quick and great to drive everyday. i have the front lift gt2 seats and yadayada its a fun car
I want the goodies. Mine will have it. It’s a once in a lifetime dream car for me so I’ll get it like I like it 😀
Same case for me with the Z51, especially the Magnetic Ride, Carbon Fiber Interior Trim, Engine Appearance Package, Bright Red Brake Calipers, Spectra Gray Trident Wheels, and Body Color Accents.
Torch Red for me please!🍓🍒❤😎
*Prince's Little Red Corvette starts playing*
Driving around, you’ll never know it’s there. Does that matter? Really, save the 5 grand.
@@mikemccormick8115 def skipping it and saving me 6 grand. to go towards a sick wrap. such a pointless option as I will never race mine.
I ordered my 2022 3LT Z51 fully loaded with front lift because for me it just makes sense. I’m probably not going to track it but love the extra equipment and features plus ya only live once might as well get it all. Hope you’re enjoying your corvette!!!!
What an amazing, straight to the point video of the Z51 package. Thank you for making this video!
Having the magnetic ride control & ESL make this a decision I can make in about 2 seconds. For the novice driver this car can get you in a world of hurt if you're over aggressive & that ESL can bail you out of some embarrassing & expensive moments. The magnetic ride speaks for itself, as others have posted if Ferrari copied it then you know it's a legit must have.
C6 Corvette Grand Sport 2012 gets 1.00g lateral-grip stock with runflats, 1.10 lateral grip with non-runflats.
MRC is fantastic. Have it on my truck and it takes potholes and bumps like a champ, also activates when it senses tight turns at high speeds. Struts are expensive to replace but well worth for the extra comfort. Only difference between the truck and sport car ones is the dial in the camaros and vettes leave wthem fully active in sport and track modes.
This was the MOST informative review of the upcoming C8. Thanks so much for this. I'm curious how the C8's suspension/ride will be WITHOUT the Z51 package.
I would have to have the new tires. The package is worth it. I like the adjustments.
What you get for $5000:
Corvette: better tires, suspension, exhaust, spring seats, better breaks, upgraded cooling, ELSD, a rear spoiler, etc...
McLaren: A leather logo
The bigger brakes and tires on the Z51 can be a big deal as a daily driver especially if you live in deer country and a lot of us do. Stopping several feet shorter can make the difference between hitting something or some idiot who steps out into traffic a big deal or just a kid or a dog. I experience this at least twice a month and because I am always scanning the sides it has been somewhat close a few times a yr but unless you are constanting scanning the sides and most people don't 5 or 10 ft is huge.
My vette won’t see a rain drop...much less severe weather 😂❗️
Best presentation of the options I've seen so far. Excellent. A big thumbs up.
Thank you!!
Best review I’ve seen yet. I’m buying one !
This video was very well done and thought out. You are quite right. My C7 did have the Z51 package. I’ve recently sold that car and am awaiting my 2022 C8. Prices are now higher than 2020 prices. I’ve opted on not getting the Z51 package. I feel it is just too expensive for a daily driver. Now that being said if you are planning to seriously track your C8 then I consider the Z51 package a MUST HAVE option. Cheers!
Great info & detail. I did spec the z51 & hope to get some track time in. I also considered resale value as a potential plus with the z51 vs without it.
In other words, if you're not going to track it, it would probably make your ride on the street Worse. So don't waste the 5K
I wouldn’t own a C8 without the Z51 package. It’s like PB without the J. You’ll forever be wishing you opted for the Z51
For 5000 it’s a steal lmao. The fact that it didn’t go up in the C8 version is pretty amazing. The Magna-ride with ELSD alone is worth more than 5k🥴.
If your going to be one of the first buyers I personally think you should get it. The rear camera/nicer interior/optional lift front its a no brainer. I had a spot to get a early one however have decided to do one of 2 things. Wait for the awesome Z06 or buy a unused low mileage from someone who bought early and I’ll get a bargain. Just saying.
Tom Dickson waiting for a used one is much smarter. I completely agree. Big reason I am buying right away is I need a new car as my current one is beginning to have issues and my channel will benefit from it. The Z06 will be incredible so I don’t blame you for waiting!
You might save $5k used...these cars are going to hold their value longer than typical vettes..
nice video.Clear and to the point.
I wonder if you can buy the z51 package with the all season tires?
For me, a hard core sports car and track day fan, the Z51 pacage is not enough. I'll wait another year for the Z06 package with wider track focuses wheels and sticker tires, race bolsyered seats, carbon ceramic brakes. and hopefully even better track suspension and more power. :)
U know how much ita worth yet??
I'm looking forward to seeing the Grand Sport. I don't need/want 800 turbo charged HP; even on a track. (I don't think, at least not yet) But all the other Zo6 handling goodies are very tasty and tend to end up on the Grand Sport with a base motor.
I love my 2020 Corvette stingray spider with 3LT Z-51 package🔥 content coming to the channel with the new kit build
The base C7 did have cooling issues for the transmission. The 2016 Z51 package and all other Z51 years after that have a second radiator added for better cooling.
Look at it this way, the 'starry sky' headliner on a Rolls is a $12,000 option - 5 grand doesn't seem too bad.
I ordered a Z51, magride, and front lift on mine too. Also will be tracking it as well 🤘
My 2015 C7 is not a Z51 car and it is spectacular, however I drove a new 3LT Z51 last summer and the steering and suspension was so responsive it was like driving a go cart. I am always a little leery of the tendency of the back end of the C7 to want to come around when subjected to hard driving, so the idea of the best possible suspension under that much horsepower did not seem too silly, so I ordered the Z51.
I went for the 2024 1LT in Cacti-green, the only options were the NPP exhaust and PPF for the front from the dealer. Got the car new for $67k plus taxes and stuff... Nice exhaust, cool color, 10 speaker Bose, power everything, leather everything, digital rear view mirror, etc... What else does one really need, for the daily driver, weekend toy and maybe a track day once a year?
Great Video! We need more breakdowns like this
They should have added a slick bottom option with a diffuser, it would greatly improve down-force, they could add doors underneath fixed by screws for changing oil and other common access places
All season tires might keep you out of a 70 mph hydroplaned spin, the trees come up really fast! For 5 HP just bring lots of cash, mag ride and lift don’t come with the 5k price! The big disks only give up 1/2” additional sweep!
I lived in west county St.louis for 16 yrs. I also worked in kc for 3 yrs. Love n Missouri!
1.) Better cooling might be beneficial if driven in a hot climate like Phoenix, Az., where 110++ degrees is normal for 3+ months of the year. But even if the engine doesn't show at the dash temp gauge as 'over' heating, it will be running hotter than if you lived in say Colorado and other cooler areas. Especially if the engine is required to hump over mountain and high hills.
2.) Don't both issues of the C8 come with equal amounts of brake cooling?
3.) Do - Don't take the Z51 package? It seems to me that when it comes to resale, this package would definitely open more buyers, as some wouldn't consider buying a non Z51 Vette.
Finally, I would like to hear a response concerning the upgraded cooling. Thanks
My car is on order, definitely getting Z51 and magride.
I have a base C8 and I am building my own Z51 with aftermarket and Z51 parts.
Recently I placed my order for a brand new C8 Corvette. I decided to forgo the Z 51 package because my vehicle will never go on a race track and $6000 a lot of money I can use it on other things for the car.
I'd love a better, safer and more fun daily than the base c8. In other words, add the following to the base car:
For convenience and comfort:
- FLS (front-lift system)
- MRC (magnetic ride control),
- All-season tires (no summer-only tires)
- standard suspension (no performance suspension and rougher ride)
For better safety:
- eLSD (electronic limited-slip differential),
- bigger brake rotors (for shorter stopping distance)
For more fun:
- performance exhaust,
- adjustable threaded spring seats (to lower the car). I know, I know, GM engineer has not solved the problem of raising the front with the front of the car lowered.
- base rear spoiler (no ugly drooping rear spoiler)
- manual transmission (that doesn't exist!). Most of us buy this kind of car more for fun driving and less for extreme performance.
Hope GM can adjust and provide these options for a reasonable cost. They will definitely sell more C8 with it.
I disagree with your brake theory. One never never has enough brakes period. Great video and presentation. Thank you
Z51 package is must have even if u dont track your car. Too valuable to omit it just to save $100 a month on your C8 car note if you finance it. Plus it adds to your resale value. Good luck selling a used C8 without Z51 package. Plus it gives you magnetic ride control which is a sin not to have in today's higher end sports cars. Last but not least, you have no business buying a C8 if you are concerned about paying an extra $5K for the Z51 package. Its worth the $5K all day. Paying extra for the big wing, carbon fiber exterior and interior, engine appearance, two tone leather seats, carbon fiber roof. All are money wasters that you will never get back and only drastically drive up the cost of your C8..
I dont like the spoiler in the back plus i dont track it plus the base will be a smoother ride than the z51 and i like smooth rides. Z51 to me just gives you elsd, the spoiler and suspensions, and tires. Everthing else can be option out for without the z51. Z51 is track useful only unless you just like the feel of the road.
@@epicxelxl8324 That's not the issue. The non Z51 package will be a stripped out car with poor resale value because most enthusiast want the Z51 package and that is fact. Check the forums if u dont believe me. It's just like the lowly C7 1LE package which nobody wanted...
Don't know if I can get this God send car. But this video was great. On point. Ty.
Magn-ride suspension!!!!! Wow!! Yes! I had no idea how well this worked.. and the Night-and-day difference between the driving modes. No clue a Corvette could ride that softly in Touring Mode??? What??? Rides nicer than my A6 and wifeeez BMW X3.
Thank you for the in-depth information as I transition from a mustang to the corvette
Very helpful video . I am not getting the package. I will add the high wing spoiler, red calipers, and performance exhaust.
I ordered it with out the z51 great video thank you so much
Michelin PS4's = worth every single penny. In fact, I'm lost on why people skimp on tires at all.
Even if you don't want z51 summer tyres as a good plan (for the summer at least)
Anyone who tracks a car will want these tires. Not a big deal to swap to all seasons.
Everyone talking about their cars and here I am doing my best so that someday I can also buy my owm corvette
I guess the danger of overloading performance features on a base model is that it comes too close to the Z06 which will have a lot of those features standard...if you are patient enough for the Z06 to come out.
Saw a c8 for the first time yesterday. I freak ed my gr out by yelling "it's the c8!"
This is the performance that the new Supra should have had.
As usual your presentations are right on. I look forward to seeing more. Do you have any idea when your C8 will arrive? I ordered mine 2 weeks ago and still have no idea when it will arrive. Thanks.
Hoping to see deliveries of first order arrive in Late Feb to Mid March.
Great video! Honest, informative and well done. This will help with the decision 👍🏻👍🏻
EXCELLENT. Very informative and interesting video.
So much of this stuff should come with the car anyways, like the Mag Ride.....
I wanted the performance exhaust and wing so 2 grand more to get more was a no Brainer 5000 it was worth it
I think you can get mag ride without the Z51 package. When I ordered mine the were 2 options mag ride with Z51 and one without. Good video though.
Personally I want all season tires because it will be a daily I need mileage more than stickiness. I will have a separate set of wheels for track.
Just get a second set of wheels with the Michelin A/S 3+, they're actually a really good tire. I've used them on track and they break in a predictable easy to manage way.
@@TexasRiverRat31254 Ive heard good things about the a/s line from Michelin
@@hby7768 I had them on a C6 and now on my C7 Grand Sport, both cars have been driven hard in the mountains and even though they're not a track tire they work well for getting started as I was a couple years ago.
Well. Got my corvette as a "used car" eith 1100 miles on it. Its hard top
Convertable with magnaride and sports exhaust. Did not have z51 package. I traded in a 750 ho mustang for this slow car lol. Mostly my concern is adding cooling to the car for track days. Brakes will be taken care of with pads and brake fluid. Mostly interested in seeing if i can add the brake cooling kit to it and an oil and trans cooler. The oil and trans cooler is going to be interesting as i dont even know if you can get those or need to be custom fab
Really well done presentation. Very clear and well thought out. All at all while done.
I have 2 questions, i am not a car person so sorry for my stupidity lol
How did he get the spoiler at 9:07? Like what does he mean that it is a "dealer option"?
also i live in chicago so are summer only tires REALLY not supposed to be used in winter? Would it actually be that bad using them in the cold?
I like the C8. Might be able to order one next year for the 2021 model year when they get a few bugs worked out. I kinda want to order a bone stock one just because it's already so nice. The options aren't really worth it to me. Only option I want is the accelerate yellow that's $500 (probably a tough car to find lol). The exhaust, spoiler, and brakes are good but not worth 5k to me.
I’m my opinion it’s always better to purchase a Corvette with as many upgrades as possible because they have better resale value and most of the upgrades would cost more if you put them on later.
I got the 2019 z51 love it
Thanks this a great breakdown of all components!!!!!
I would like to get the Z51 with the mag ride, and electronic diff. Except with the standard gear ratio. The lower gear would be great for drag racing, but i prefer the taller gearing for road racing. It is nice to be able to use first gear more then a few feet!!
Randall Mason I didn’t think anyone had driven any C8 yet? But you’ve gotten to try out both at your favorite track? As soon as the embargo is up please post the video!
JeepCherokeeful. No I have not had a chance to drive a C8 yet. Just referring to past experiences with drag racing, and road racing cars/ motorcycles.
Summer tires? Rougher ride? That means I need to buy, own, insure and garage 2 cars and possibly get spinal surgery at some point.
What's the cost of that?
Very well done, great breakdown without bias. Subbed!
Thank you for the support!!
I own the C6 with the Z51 and 6-speed. Love the lower end grunt off the line, but I've never tracked it.
Concerning my 2020 C8 purchase... I'd love to get the Z51... but PLEASE, Tadge, let me delete the spoiler from the factory!!!! I'll even pay a hundred bucks to delete it.
BMW motorbikes had adjustable suspension on the fly 20 years ago.
Corvette had adjustable suspension 30 years ago. But it's different than what came on bikes and cars from the 80s, 90s and early 00s on the C6 and up.
Thank you very much, you answered many questions I had.
If you don’t track, you don’t need a car like corvette at all. Tracking or not is not the reason ppl getting the car, the z51. You don’t need many things, you just want them.
Excellent video and insights.