That’s true, I’m kinda shocked because most people don’t spend the energy to think maybe there’s an underlying psychological reason for people’s decision
WOW you all reaching that real reason it's that she doesn't have to want kids... i'm 38 and never wanted kids .... no trauma . my first experience losing someone close was 2 yrs ago when grandma died ... i just don't want kids and i have friends without kids feeling complete .... relax LOL it's not that deep
Yeah and even after hearing what she went through it doesn't change my perspective about her. Having something bad happen to you doesn't mean you are allowed to be a POS to others.
I'm tired of giving mean spirited people like Chelsea Handler a pass, she's just not nice and also very condescending. These people always have sob stories but if you give them room they will destroy you and laugh.
Imagine listening intently to a man born in Tehran, Iran at the time of the American hostage crisis in Tehran and being fully engaged with his energy for life. 🧐
I was part of the Iranian Hostage rescue, not all Iranians are hostile indoctrinated individuals, we had a long relationship with Iran for YEARS, During the time of Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. even during the time of the Ayatollah there were still good people
Everyone has had tragedies and hardships. Chelsea isn’t special because she lost loved ones or people close to her. Bad things happening don’t give you the green light to be shitty and condescending to others.
PBD took the high road. An example for all. Get above the name calling and mocking. My own opinion, it does illustrate how Chelsea's behavior is a projection of her regret. The reason may actually hit too hard for her self-esteem, no man wanted to stay with her in a relationship. Thus, she needs to project the reasons on something else. And Andrew, do your friends tell you that haircut looks good?
lol andrew knows how much sh!t people give him for the hair cut, he jokes about it, and honestly... I think it's the reason he still wears it like that
The problem with Chelsea Handler is she is extremely narcisstic, arrogant, and bitter, so sets herself up as a standard for others and could care less about the idea of loving God. Many people have had harder lives, but sought out the spiritual and loving standards of Christ. She doesn't care. She lives only for herself. Spare us the misguided compassion.
@@shewholaughslast I like women. I have no problem with a woman president, for example. It's the person's character that matters. You make a presumption that hints you don't like men. I know nothing of Sandler. Handler is simply not a good person.
@Amy Despite what feminists have convinced themselves is true the vast majority of straight white males do not hate women. Or gay people. Or trans people. Or black people. Or disabled people. The enemy of straight white men is other straight white men, and there is no hatred between them just competition. Mean spirited progressives / activists projecting their own negativity onto decent people is getting very tiresome.
@Amy I'm a woman & I have no idea why she has a following at all. I find her so annoying & her comedy is low brow & unintelligent. She's never said anything that I've found 2b funny. She has 2 b shocking 2 get an easy laugh out of a low intellect audience.
Here’s an additional perspective: CH got pregnant twice when she was 16 and had an abortion both times. The first time, she told her parents, who told her she should have an abortion and that they didn’t want to raise another kid. They drove her to planned parenthood. She said it was the most “parenting” they had ever done. The second time she must not have told them because she paid for it herself. She naturally wanted to feel loved by her parents and to that end convinced herself that they were right and kids were stupid anyway.
Yeah, a lot of people have trauma in their childhood or a rough upbringing. They still had kids and they raise those kids and were totally different as a result of what they endured. It’s called knowing that we are evolving from our life experiences. In my opinion, women who want to engage in lots of casual meaningless sex, have Daddy issues.
Conservative "logic": "If somebody publicly talks negatively about something then that implies that person is unhappy with their own lives and secretly believe that thing they say they don't like is true." "That's why childfree persons who talk about how great childfreedom is and how bad having to take care of children is really are want children and are jealous of those with kids." "That's why Atheists who talk about how bad and stupid christianity are really love christianity and know it to be the truth." Real logic: So, then, that would also mean all Conservatives are secretly angry about their own lives and know how pathetic and worthless their own lives are, and they know how great and awesome Childlessness and Antinatalism and Communism and Marxism and Atheism and Animal Rights Veganism, and the IPCC and Greta Thunberg and climate activists are because conservatives NEVER shut up publicly with their pathetic complaints against Communism and Marxism and Atheism and Animal Rights Veganism, and the IPCC and Greta Thunberg and climate activists.
Pbd is pbd. He's not emotional like Rogan. He's very strategic and calculated yet real af. He's a man with established values that he unwilling to bend the knee for.
This is why long form is so great, and listening to people. These great podcasters who don’t worry about the reputation because they simply have a guest on, they’re the best! They help us go forward.
She's been passed around so many times that at some point no one wanted her so she draped herself in the armor of "I'm a strong woman who is happy not to be 'tied down' to a marriage and children". She's so far gone, she'll never come back. And that's a very flattering picture of her from probably about 15 years ago when she was still semi-attractive.
Couldn’t agree more. He’s an inspiration to learn the art of communicating without personal attacks and just hard facts that everyone could implement more of
I like Pat and think he’s a good interviewer but look up how he made his money. Insurance multi level marketing with many many upset and disgruntled former employees/customers etc. So I’m on the fence because while Pat is interesting, when he talks about business you can take it with a grain of salt bc he got rich taking advantage of ill-informed people.
@@willlazenby1050 People aren’t I’ll informed, they’re just naive.. he didn’t put a gun to anyone’s head, they can make money in it, but people are looking for get rich quick schemes and don’t realize just how much work and effort it takes to make profit
The average girl is not going to want to be anything like Chelsea Handler. And just b/c she suffered a terrible tragedy doesn't excuse her mean behavior.
I had a similar (minus the tragedy) experience as a kid... but still... I saw how stressed my parents were all the time. They would argue, and I could tell my dad absolutely hated his job (and he told me that later), but he had a bad temper because you could tell he kept a lot of stuff bottled up inside. A lot of it had to do with trying to maintain the family and keep up with the jonses', all while doing something he hated. He never once took a day off work or called in sick... he traded in his peace of mind to do his duty and I respect him for that, but wow did it make him miserable. I decided around age 10-11 that I didn't want kids.
@@ragebait988you act like you're above it all....... you will get old, your health will fail you, your kids will leave you, you will be lonely because old age is a reminder of frailty and death to them. You will die and be forgotten within a 10 year time frame at the relief of your children because your failing health and/or mind will be a hurtful burden. Your pride will suffer when no flowers will be found on your grave. You are not special.....
wait so out this story, how does one come to the conclusion that it was the kids that were the problem? sorry to say, but it still doesn't appear to me why you refuse to have kids?
If he had a bad temper, he wasn't bottling up anything. Not sure what your purpose was for sharing this but the only takeaway is that your dad was a miserable person & father that made sure his family knew they were partly to blame for that.
4:55 infinitely more respect for you man. Wow. It's easy to trash her. Really easy. She says dumb ish. Harder to actually understand why she is how she is.
Credit to PBD.... I don't think he's the smartest guy around... But he clearly works hard and makes a strong effort in his appearance and delivery... Classic good salesman...
@@dr.badass702 That's just false. She was the one who commented on them on Twitter. And while we are being factual, she's less relevant than PBD is these days.
Most of the people that refuse to have kids are kids of neglectful parents mixed with trauma in some way. Very rare for a normal not fucked up woman to act like that.
maybe they just don't want kids. Kind of difficult to take this rationally when you present no evidence. You offer something with no proof, we can dismiss it without proof. Besides, kids are a woman's biological desire, not a man's.
@@wesleygary6651 i mean its a comment mate not a lecture. - Get a life instead of requesting data from a bloke on the internet. - Antidotal evidence is what im referring to and just go ask people if they just dont want kids your an idiot or your what i said before traumatized by divorce or being force to be a parent at 13 simple as that. - You dont really need any evidence written down to see it question the people that just dont want to have kids - i guarantee they say something like that caused them to not want kids.
@@wesleygary6651 Isn't psychology required to graduate high school still? Did you slip through those cracks? It's commonly known as emotional avoidance, part of the avoidance cluster of PTSD. You see it in people who have young children die as well, they don't want more because they're avoiding the wave of emotions they haven't dealt with and having another kid will bring that to the forefront. Same thing here, but it looks like the brother death screwed up her family completely and now she potentially is avoiding having a family of her own. Pscyhology today or even just a HS or college textbook that delves into PTSD is proof.
@@zerofox2030 Maybe she's just a cun#. Don't need a degree to figure that out. How does one deficiency define a person? You have a dictionary term for that or are you on your second cup of coffee and think that Juneteeth is the day you defend an unlikeable person. Probably voted for Hilliary because she's a woman, not because she's evil, just like Chelsea.
People who adamantly do not want kids should NEVER have kids. I support your choice and advocate to let people make adult life choices. Why attack people who feel the opposite? We will never agree. Why debate this? Also I question how happy someone is who is verbally abrasive about how happy they are. I hope it’s true but if that was my life I’d be suicidal. But that’s my feelings on what MY life needs to be fulfilling. Drink your alcohol at 9am, eat your edible, fuck whoever. I don’t care. I hope you’re as happy as you claim. The more happy people in the world only benefits the entire world. I can hope you’re happy while not understanding how you can possibly be happy. It’s that simple.
Respect to you, PBD, for actually doing some work to get context on another, in this case Handler. The Media, the 24 Hour News Cycle, quick views on our phones and YT, program us in the Illusion of Authority and Understanding. Who wants to actually make more of an effort to engage with someone and where that might lead? Possibly more agreements and similarities? Or deeper disagreements. I don't think her background and tragic loss of her brother prove Causation in terms of her enjoying being single and without children, but it might be THE reason. Maybe. She would have to admit that for me to prove your theory correct, but either way, my appreciation to you in modeling some thick skin as well as patience and compassion for her background. It still doesn't mean I give her a pass for throwing mud with "SDE" shaming tactics of "betas". She's too old to be talking like a high schooler. She deserves to be called out on that.
She would have to consciously know that's the reason. It's possible that is the reason, but she's not aware of it did to the defense mechanisms we all use to handle trauma.
Other people on the planet may have also had traumatic experiences and they still manage to behave normally, with having much much less money at their disposal; she decides she wants to influence easily led women to ruin their lives because she had her trauma. I sympathise with the trauma, I don't sympathise with the behaviour, especially after you've found your way into money like she has.
Being married for 40 years and having two sons made me a better person. Most of us have had a dysfunctional family life. It’s our journey to get over it. As I’ve told my younger four brothers, there comes a time when you need to stop blaming the past and take full responsibility for your life and choices.
Q: who is PBD? A: PBD rambles on for several minutes and doesn't answer the question. Conclusion: PBD is a guy who talks a lot and tells stories that a certain group of people want to engage with.
Anyone who understands economics to the degree that Pat does among the many people he knows as well as can do actuarial....... Intelligent guy. Not a born salesman or communicator, a hard working guy with drive, that definitely makes it seem to everyone as if he is a born salesman and communicator.
@JTR253 Everyone who is neither client nor customer has been speaking , yet I've not seen or heard anyone who was involved be it receiving end or participation speak out against this man , 🤔 this is a curious thing to me.
@JTR253 Everyone who is neither client nor customer has been speaking , yet I've not seen or heard anyone who was involved be it receiving end or participation speak out against this man , 🤔 this is a curious thing to me.
This is my first glimpse of PBD. Dunno his backstory, but in this clip it seems like Schulz is the host and PBD is the guest on his own show. Schulz is a natural. He'll get a late night show in a few years.
@@herbthompson8937 Oh. TY for clarification. I figured PBD had the center seat, it looked like his show. I don't watch/ listen to much podcasting, I had no idea.
Traditional late night shows are dead. They were already having declining ratings and the writers strike finished them off. I’d be surprised if they return at all, which is good because they suck anyway.
@@hamburgler227While NBA's delivery isn't ideal, it does bring up the point of some people doing the right thing and realizing their deficiencies to admit when something is not for them, even though it is socially required of them. Chelsea handler did the right thing by not having children because she doesn't want them and she could be truly at peace with herself. Why should she be bullied into it? Could she have fleeting moments of yearning, sure, but should she have had them to satisfy someone else? No! She has to take care of them. So it is commendable for not allowing herself to fall into a trap (for some it is).
@@coolerheadsprevail9312 hard pass for me man. Saying she doesn’t deserve kids and would be an awful mom, and a sad lady, is just mean spirited. Not at all what you described. It’s not the delivery, it’s the content of his hateful comment.
It seems to trigger conservative men in particular. They are very passionate about this issue for some reason - they talk about liberty, liberty, liberty, but they can't seem to respect one's choice to not have kids without saying "well, clearly something must be wrong with you!" It's very odd behavior.
@@dr.badass702 I find it very odd. But I also find that most of these men don’t look at women as human beings they feel they should live only to serve them. Like how dare a woman live life on her own terms. It’s all about control.
Used to be a conservative until I said that I never want children. I was looked at like I was a Satanic witch and they said that I'm "ruining God's gift of bringing children into the world" 😂 I realized at that moment that these conservatives are hypocrites. They blame feminism but without it, Candace Owens, PearlyThings, and other conservative/trad-con women wouldn't have their own podcasts. I mean they could, but all that money would go straight to the men in their lives and not see one single cent.
Chelsea Handler didn't go through anything worse than ALOT of other people. She has no excuse for being a pos. She grew up in a very affluent home and had alot of opportunities others didnt.
OMFG, these two while being very different in history, I'd pay to be in both of their university classes. They are a masterclass on how to be #awesome in your space. And in general. #chaelisyourboss
@Manley156 I met him 2 days ago at Bellator. Great guy. When he showed up ppl just gravitated to him and he took pictures with everyone for like 30 minutes.
I dont think your 2 points on Handler have much to do with each other. Is her past trauma the reason no, is it part of her reason, yes, sure... OR....OR... she just doesnt want kids?!?! She has never wanted kids. Has always said she didnt want kids. She's never changed her mind on that topic... Traumas from our childhood help shape who we are as adults, thats not some new, unknown idea or concept🎉
My Dad took early retirement at 62 and took on a management gig at a car rental place for years and then afterward took on a contracting gig for the gov't for many more years. He didn't stop "working" until he was in his late 70's.
Much respect for PBD. I sometimes achieve something in the ballpark, but it goes against my emotional Celtic programming! I am a work in progress and appreciate good examples to follow.
@@jacksoncowsert6964yep. Live and let live. I get more heat from parents about my childfree choices than anyone else. Why force people who don't want kids to have them? Do they want neglected and abused children just to make society happy? Also, children don't always change you for the better. My cousin became an even BIGGER narcissist after having two daughters which sadly they're following her footsteps. I cut them off completely.
Dec 19 2021 my older brother passes away in a car accident at the age of 57 our parents still alive in the mid 80’s the pain that this did to them is undeniably real that day i lost my ole family brother,dad and mom they never recovered and live in denial every day.
I doubt Chelsea Handler's tragedy has anything to do with why she didn't want kids. I think she just didn't want kids because she didn't, she focused on different things during her child bearing years, it happens. A lot of ppl didn't even plan to have kids. It happened just because they were having a lot of sex, someone gets pregnant and then they say oh well I guess we should get married now.
The nuclear family is weak. It creates orphans and homelessness. The whole point of the nuclear family was mirroring noble dynasties. A community was seen as a threat to nobility, but a family could be easily defeated. As a matter of fact a family will destroy itself.
Pat starts with baseline. Start with your assumptions. Too many people take for granted we all have the same baseline facts and assumptions and end up arguing past each other
Here’s the thing right It’s not impossible to be never workout and be okay It’s not impossible to be socially isolated/hermit and be okay It’s not impossible to eat mostly unhealthy and be okay It’s not impossible to date casual/one night and be okay It’s not impossible to be childless/no family and be okay However The point is the overwhelming majority of us require a balance between all these things to be at an optimal level mentally and physically. One person’s subjective experience isn’t enough to draw a conclusion. That’s completely anecdotal.
A great example of what PBD said about Chelsea Handler, is when I saw Tucker Carlson interview Martin Shkreli, the most hated man in the USA seven years ago. After watching the interview, I had a completely different view on him, I might still think that to increase the price of a drug, by such a large amount, is morally not good, he explained his story and it made me think.
It’s better to say you didn’t want to have kids because of your past experiences, than to say so go around having sex, get drunk and avoid responsibility
IF EVERYONE IS THE SAME SIZE.. HEAVYWEIGHT.. Which boxers style is the most dominant? - Ali - Tyson - Mayweather - Foreman - Chavez - Dela Hoya - other
Chelsea is just bitter because maybe just maybe she wanted a family but chose not to and is too OLD NOW TO BE A MOTHER EVER AGAIN. I'd be bitter too but those were choices she herself made. Don't cry n complain dissing and ridiculing others for choosing family life. There's more to life than living alone and sleeping around without consequences, come on party life gets old because we do. She didnt have those views and choices originally, it happened over a long period in time caused by a single trajic event. Get real with yourself Chelsey grow up.
My view on things is very simple: whatever you are saying = your message, the message should always be able to stand independent of the messenger. Now the messenger can give context but if your message/views can’t stand on its own 2 feet then your message imo has no value. People are always entitled to their opinions but if people don’t understand the world we live in, the times we live in , the fact that although we dislike having enemies they are all out there, there’s a time for cohesion and there’s a time for change and maybe when the enemies are knocking cohesion should come first.
Its probably a context thing but I find it very hard to follow the interviewee - but the bits I took are gold. I need to replay this a few times and maybe play it as 0.5x speed
It is sad what happened to her brother and parents and subsequently, her. It may explain why she is like she is but at the same time, it doesn't excuse it. There are plenty of criminals sitting in jail that had terrible things happen to them. We don't just give them a pass because if it.
He's more impressive the more that I see him. Just like Jordan Peterson. I know that they're not perfect and everyone has their garbage, but I only know three men in my 49yrs that are worth the upmost respect and admiration enough to emulate.
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The way PBD gave Chelsea handlers real reason behind not wanting kids vs what she put out there was so respectful and introspective.
definitely. i got that out of it too.
Very compassionate also.
That’s true, I’m kinda shocked because most people don’t spend the energy to think maybe there’s an underlying psychological reason for people’s decision
WOW you all reaching that real reason it's that she doesn't have to want kids... i'm 38 and never wanted kids .... no trauma . my first experience losing someone close was 2 yrs ago when grandma died ... i just don't want kids and i have friends without kids feeling complete .... relax LOL it's not that deep
@@laterm6006maybe for you, but that doesn’t apply to everyone. In Chelsea’s case, it couldn’t be more obvious.
Yeah and even after hearing what she went through it doesn't change my perspective about her. Having something bad happen to you doesn't mean you are allowed to be a POS to others.
Precisely.
True. She cannot play victim all her life. She needs to own it. Everybody have problems and tragedies. I own mine.
Agreed gents.
She is in quite a good place now. Finances ✔️place to live ✔️ food to eat ✔️ & all the freedoms of America, amen!
Correct. Doesn't excuse her behavior. But, it does explain it. We should seek more to understand other people's "why".
@@bigmikesproducts More importantly she should attempt to understand her why and grow from there.
3:15 is where the handler discussion starts.
Thanks.
Thank you!!!
My man
I'm tired of giving mean spirited people like Chelsea Handler a pass, she's just not nice and also very condescending. These people always have sob stories but if you give them room they will destroy you and laugh.
If someone like Chelsea Handler can destroy you - a strong breeze should also be of concern to you
Chelsea couldn't handle any intelligent debate, which is why you never see her do it.
I agree, she’s a horrible woman
She makes you guys so mad!😂
@@dr.badass702 And you comment using crying laughing face emojis whilst calling yourself Dr Badass. Nothing else even needs to be said about you.
A while back she insulted the people of Hawaii. I have a hard time forgiving her for that.
Who cares, they smell
They like to put pineapple with everything so I might be on her side...
I eat SPAM because I'm poor, whilst yall pay to eat it at restaurants. So.... she's probably right.
Won't someone please think of the Hawaiians?!
Lol that’s sensitive. She’s a comedian. The quality of her comedy doesn’t matter
Tragic story? You mean the fact that she's a narcissistic, toxic and vile person is tragic? 😂
Yes that's tragic. And it's tragic that she's encouraging other people to follow her lifestyle.
Imagine listening intently to a man born in Tehran, Iran at the time of the American hostage crisis in Tehran and being fully engaged with his energy for life. 🧐
That man supports DICTATOR shah and CIA that overthrew democratic government of Iran in 1953.He loves money and America which is kingdom of Satan.
I was part of the Iranian Hostage rescue, not all Iranians are hostile indoctrinated individuals, we had a long relationship with Iran for YEARS, During the time of Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. even during the time of the Ayatollah there were still good people
@@briangibbs4735
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état
A long relationship indeed
Everyone has had tragedies and hardships. Chelsea isn’t special because she lost loved ones or people close to her. Bad things happening don’t give you the green light to be shitty and condescending to others.
How has she been shitty to others?? By having an opinion that differs yours?
PBD took the high road. An example for all. Get above the name calling and mocking. My own opinion, it does illustrate how Chelsea's behavior is a projection of her regret. The reason may actually hit too hard for her self-esteem, no man wanted to stay with her in a relationship. Thus, she needs to project the reasons on something else. And Andrew, do your friends tell you that haircut looks good?
100% agree
lol andrew knows how much sh!t people give him for the hair cut, he jokes about it, and honestly... I think it's the reason he still wears it like that
Bad haircut
Sound like you’re projecting.
@@sthubbins4038 thanks for stopping by and missing the point.
The problem with Chelsea Handler is she is extremely narcisstic, arrogant, and bitter, so sets herself up as a standard for others and could care less about the idea of loving God. Many people have had harder lives, but sought out the spiritual and loving standards of Christ. She doesn't care. She lives only for herself. Spare us the misguided compassion.
@@shewholaughslast I like women. I have no problem with a woman president, for example. It's the person's character that matters. You make a presumption that hints you don't like men. I know nothing of Sandler. Handler is simply not a good person.
@Amy Despite what feminists have convinced themselves is true the vast majority of straight white males do not hate women. Or gay people. Or trans people. Or black people. Or disabled people. The enemy of straight white men is other straight white men, and there is no hatred between them just competition.
Mean spirited progressives / activists projecting their own negativity onto decent people is getting very tiresome.
@@shewholaughslastcat lady....
@Amy I'm a woman & I have no idea why she has a following at all. I find her so annoying & her comedy is low brow & unintelligent. She's never said anything that I've found 2b funny. She has 2 b shocking 2 get an easy laugh out of a low intellect audience.
@Amy "Adam Sandler's a classic woman hater ..."
Evidence?
Lucky kids who avoided being Handler's offspring.
I love the excitement and joy in andrews face talkin to patrick. You can always tell when andrews interested in talking and learning from a guest
He's about as authentic as Drake is.
@emmapeel38…agreed. I don’t understand why people think he’s original, interesting or funny.
@@jenl3162His haircut is original. Nobody else has wanted it.
It seems like some girls are upset.
Literally Andrew is just a snake in the grass. He like to act like he isn't.
Here’s an additional perspective: CH got pregnant twice when she was 16 and had an abortion both times. The first time, she told her parents, who told her she should have an abortion and that they didn’t want to raise another kid. They drove her to planned parenthood. She said it was the most “parenting” they had ever done. The second time she must not have told them because she paid for it herself. She naturally wanted to feel loved by her parents and to that end convinced herself that they were right and kids were stupid anyway.
Yeah, a lot of people have trauma in their childhood or a rough upbringing. They still had kids and they raise those kids and were totally different as a result of what they endured. It’s called knowing that we are evolving from our life experiences. In my opinion, women who want to engage in lots of casual meaningless sex, have Daddy issues.
And men who engage in lots of casual meaningless sex are often selfish jerks who only think of themselves. Y’all always miss that part.
Yeah I’m a sucker for girls with daddy issues 😅
Conservative "logic": "If somebody publicly talks negatively about something then that implies that person is unhappy with their own lives and secretly believe that thing they say they don't like is true."
"That's why childfree persons who talk about how great childfreedom is and how bad having to take care of children is really are want children and are jealous of those with kids."
"That's why Atheists who talk about how bad and stupid christianity are really love christianity and know it to be the truth."
Real logic: So, then, that would also mean all Conservatives are secretly angry about their own lives and know how pathetic and worthless their own lives are, and they know how great and awesome Childlessness and Antinatalism and Communism and Marxism and Atheism and Animal Rights Veganism, and the IPCC and Greta Thunberg and climate activists are because conservatives NEVER shut up publicly with their pathetic complaints against Communism and Marxism and Atheism and Animal Rights Veganism, and the IPCC and Greta Thunberg and climate activists.
Patrick Bet David is new Joe Rogan. Love him or hate him you can't ignore him or his opinion.
he speaks clearly & effectively like Tate!
No is not, there's no new rogan until he stops or dies. I like PBD podcast but they are very different styles 😅
PBD is PBD
@@taturaytotally agree! New Rogan? Like, seriously?
Pbd is pbd. He's not emotional like Rogan. He's very strategic and calculated yet real af. He's a man with established values that he unwilling to bend the knee for.
This is why long form is so great, and listening to people. These great podcasters who don’t worry about the reputation because they simply have a guest on, they’re the best! They help us go forward.
She's been passed around so many times that at some point no one wanted her so she draped herself in the armor of "I'm a strong woman who is happy not to be 'tied down' to a marriage and children". She's so far gone, she'll never come back. And that's a very flattering picture of her from probably about 15 years ago when she was still semi-attractive.
glad you could read her mind. You are no better than her. lol
She’s had more low grade black C than the kardashians combined.
Even more tragic than the Story of Chelsea Handler is the tragedy of Schultz’s haircut and mustache. It’s heartbreaking…
Testify!
That's a great way to think. Try to understand the person you disagree with. It's ok to disagree...it's the condemnation that creates conflict.
PBD is one of the most intelligent people online. Listen up everyone.
lol
Couldn’t agree more. He’s an inspiration to learn the art of communicating without personal attacks and just hard facts that everyone could implement more of
I like Pat and think he’s a good interviewer but look up how he made his money. Insurance multi level marketing with many many upset and disgruntled former employees/customers etc. So I’m on the fence because while Pat is interesting, when he talks about business you can take it with a grain of salt bc he got rich taking advantage of ill-informed people.
@@willlazenby1050there is no company in the world that doesn’t have a disgruntled employee
@@willlazenby1050 People aren’t I’ll informed, they’re just naive.. he didn’t put a gun to anyone’s head, they can make money in it, but people are looking for get rich quick schemes and don’t realize just how much work and effort it takes to make profit
The average girl is not going to want to be anything like Chelsea Handler. And just b/c she suffered a terrible tragedy doesn't excuse her mean behavior.
I had a similar (minus the tragedy) experience as a kid... but still... I saw how stressed my parents were all the time. They would argue, and I could tell my dad absolutely hated his job (and he told me that later), but he had a bad temper because you could tell he kept a lot of stuff bottled up inside. A lot of it had to do with trying to maintain the family and keep up with the jonses', all while doing something he hated. He never once took a day off work or called in sick... he traded in his peace of mind to do his duty and I respect him for that, but wow did it make him miserable. I decided around age 10-11 that I didn't want kids.
@@ragebait988 Ooof....
@@ragebait988you act like you're above it all....... you will get old, your health will fail you, your kids will leave you, you will be lonely because old age is a reminder of frailty and death to them. You will die and be forgotten within a 10 year time frame at the relief of your children because your failing health and/or mind will be a hurtful burden. Your pride will suffer when no flowers will be found on your grave. You are not special.....
That's life! I wouldn't be narrow-minded on this one!
wait so out this story, how does one come to the conclusion that it was the kids that were the problem? sorry to say, but it still doesn't appear to me why you refuse to have kids?
If he had a bad temper, he wasn't bottling up anything. Not sure what your purpose was for sharing this but the only takeaway is that your dad was a miserable person & father that made sure his family knew they were partly to blame for that.
4:55 infinitely more respect for you man. Wow. It's easy to trash her. Really easy. She says dumb ish. Harder to actually understand why she is how she is.
Credit to PBD.... I don't think he's the smartest guy around... But he clearly works hard and makes a strong effort in his appearance and delivery... Classic good salesman...
Way more intelligent and informed than you 😊
@@miken2968 articulate argument.....
I agree. He is a born salesman, definitely not the smartest guy in the room.
Credit to pbd I think he’s a Moron basically
PBD built a multi million dollar business from 0. He's a little smart!
I bet that hit a nerve with her when she heard him say this.
I guarantee you these guys think about her way more than she ever thinks about them. I'm sure she doesn't even know who PBD is - why would she? 😂
@@dr.badass702 That's just false. She was the one who commented on them on Twitter. And while we are being factual, she's less relevant than PBD is these days.
@@dr.badass702 Narcissist like yourself always defend other narcissist like her even when she was clearly the instigator.
@@satori-in-life i wrote this comment a year ago, I don't even remember what this was about, but ok.
Joe Koy is such a gentleman he let them spin it so "she broke up with him". No way that's what happened.
Jo is too family oriented for that crazy lady.
... or he was so glad to be rid of her, he didn't care what she would say about him. He still would be free of her.
Chelsea is just the most famous wino aunt in history. She's America's childless auntie.
For real
Most of the people that refuse to have kids are kids of neglectful parents mixed with trauma in some way. Very rare for a normal not fucked up woman to act like that.
maybe they just don't want kids.
Kind of difficult to take this rationally when you present no evidence.
You offer something with no proof, we can dismiss it without proof. Besides, kids are a woman's biological desire, not a man's.
@@wesleygary6651found the white knight soy boy
@@wesleygary6651 i mean its a comment mate not a lecture. - Get a life instead of requesting data from a bloke on the internet. - Antidotal evidence is what im referring to and just go ask people if they just dont want kids your an idiot or your what i said before traumatized by divorce or being force to be a parent at 13 simple as that. - You dont really need any evidence written down to see it question the people that just dont want to have kids - i guarantee they say something like that caused them to not want kids.
@@wesleygary6651 Isn't psychology required to graduate high school still? Did you slip through those cracks? It's commonly known as emotional avoidance, part of the avoidance cluster of PTSD. You see it in people who have young children die as well, they don't want more because they're avoiding the wave of emotions they haven't dealt with and having another kid will bring that to the forefront. Same thing here, but it looks like the brother death screwed up her family completely and now she potentially is avoiding having a family of her own. Pscyhology today or even just a HS or college textbook that delves into PTSD is proof.
@@zerofox2030 Maybe she's just a cun#.
Don't need a degree to figure that out.
How does one deficiency define a person?
You have a dictionary term for that or are you on your second cup of coffee and think that Juneteeth is the day you defend an unlikeable person.
Probably voted for Hilliary because she's a woman, not because she's evil, just like Chelsea.
People who adamantly do not want kids should NEVER have kids. I support your choice and advocate to let people make adult life choices. Why attack people who feel the opposite?
We will never agree. Why debate this? Also I question how happy someone is who is verbally abrasive about how happy they are. I hope it’s true but if that was my life I’d be suicidal. But that’s my feelings on what MY life needs to be fulfilling. Drink your alcohol at 9am, eat your edible, fuck whoever. I don’t care. I hope you’re as happy as you claim. The more happy people in the world only benefits the entire world. I can hope you’re happy while not understanding how you can possibly be happy. It’s that simple.
He is overly charitable. That explains why she is childless, but it doesn’t explain why she is so insufferable about it.
Maybe if men who hate and constantly shit on women who don't want kids weren't insufferable, maybe she wouldn't need to be either.
Props for his empathy and understanding.
As Artie Lange would call her. Chelsea I need a handler.
Respect to you, PBD, for actually doing some work to get context on another, in this case Handler. The Media, the 24 Hour News Cycle, quick views on our phones and YT, program us in the Illusion of Authority and Understanding. Who wants to actually make more of an effort to engage with someone and where that might lead? Possibly more agreements and similarities? Or deeper disagreements.
I don't think her background and tragic loss of her brother prove Causation in terms of her enjoying being single and without children, but it might be THE reason. Maybe. She would have to admit that for me to prove your theory correct, but either way, my appreciation to you in modeling some thick skin as well as patience and compassion for her background. It still doesn't mean I give her a pass for throwing mud with "SDE" shaming tactics of "betas". She's too old to be talking like a high schooler. She deserves to be called out on that.
She would have to consciously know that's the reason. It's possible that is the reason, but she's not aware of it did to the defense mechanisms we all use to handle trauma.
Other people on the planet may have also had traumatic experiences and they still manage to behave normally, with having much much less money at their disposal; she decides she wants to influence easily led women to ruin their lives because she had her trauma. I sympathise with the trauma, I don't sympathise with the behaviour, especially after you've found your way into money like she has.
Being married for 40 years and having two sons made me a better person. Most of us have had a dysfunctional family life. It’s our journey to get over it. As I’ve told my younger four brothers, there comes a time when you need to stop blaming the past and take full responsibility for your life and choices.
Great. Not everyone (even ppl from functional households) want’s children. They are entitled to making that choice. You don’t get a say.
Thanks and most people just take a helpful hand / comment as a fist.
Q: who is PBD?
A: PBD rambles on for several minutes and doesn't answer the question.
Conclusion: PBD is a guy who talks a lot and tells stories that a certain group of people want to engage with.
He’s a salesman that it
That’s what I see too. Never answers the questions……to me he’s a used car salesman.
Anyone who understands economics to the degree that Pat does among the many people he knows as well as can do actuarial....... Intelligent guy.
Not a born salesman or communicator, a hard working guy with drive, that definitely makes it seem to everyone as if he is a born salesman and communicator.
He’s a MLM scammer that’s all
@@PEPSEP time will tell
@@zubayzimbo9794Not a salesman?
Dude the guy literally ran an insurance pyramid scheme….😂
@JTR253 Everyone who is neither client nor customer has been speaking , yet I've not seen or heard anyone who was involved be it receiving end or participation speak out against this man , 🤔 this is a curious thing to me.
@JTR253 Everyone who is neither client nor customer has been speaking , yet I've not seen or heard anyone who was involved be it receiving end or participation speak out against this man , 🤔 this is a curious thing to me.
I met Chelsea Handler in the 40s
She was 50.
If you piss off right and left you’re doing it right.
That is how you speak and get your point across with class and intelligence
This is my first glimpse of PBD. Dunno his backstory, but in this clip it seems like Schulz is the host and PBD is the guest on his own show. Schulz is a natural. He'll get a late night show in a few years.
He got rich running an exploitative MLM scam. That's his backstory
It is Schultss podcast
@@herbthompson8937 Oh. TY for clarification. I figured PBD had the center seat, it looked like his show. I don't watch/ listen to much podcasting, I had no idea.
No one wants a late night show
Traditional late night shows are dead. They were already having declining ratings and the writers strike finished them off. I’d be surprised if they return at all, which is good because they suck anyway.
Nothing is tragic about Chelsea Handler to me. She doesn't deserve kids and would be an awful mother.
She's a sad lady
Oh must be true since you think so
@@hamburgler227While NBA's delivery isn't ideal, it does bring up the point of some people doing the right thing and realizing their deficiencies to admit when something is not for them, even though it is socially required of them. Chelsea handler did the right thing by not having children because she doesn't want them and she could be truly at peace with herself. Why should she be bullied into it? Could she have fleeting moments of yearning, sure, but should she have had them to satisfy someone else? No! She has to take care of them. So it is commendable for not allowing herself to fall into a trap (for some it is).
@@coolerheadsprevail9312 hard pass for me man. Saying she doesn’t deserve kids and would be an awful mom, and a sad lady, is just mean spirited. Not at all what you described. It’s not the delivery, it’s the content of his hateful comment.
Waluigi is awesome for supporting the blind barbers union of america.respect
Patrick is pure gold
I’ve seen so many videos about this woman all cause she doesn’t want kids. Who honestly gives af what she does with her life?
People generally don't care . However, shes made it part of her personality and talks about it constantly so of course ppl are going to discuss it .
It seems to trigger conservative men in particular. They are very passionate about this issue for some reason - they talk about liberty, liberty, liberty, but they can't seem to respect one's choice to not have kids without saying "well, clearly something must be wrong with you!" It's very odd behavior.
@@dr.badass702 I find it very odd. But I also find that most of these men don’t look at women as human beings they feel they should live only to serve them. Like how dare a woman live life on her own terms. It’s all about control.
Used to be a conservative until I said that I never want children. I was looked at like I was a Satanic witch and they said that I'm "ruining God's gift of bringing children into the world" 😂
I realized at that moment that these conservatives are hypocrites. They blame feminism but without it, Candace Owens, PearlyThings, and other conservative/trad-con women wouldn't have their own podcasts. I mean they could, but all that money would go straight to the men in their lives and not see one single cent.
Chelsea Handler didn't go through anything worse than ALOT of other people. She has no excuse for being a pos. She grew up in a very affluent home and had alot of opportunities others didnt.
I would love to see Chael Sonnen as a guest.
OMFG, these two while being very different in history, I'd pay to be in both of their university classes. They are a masterclass on how to be #awesome in your space. And in general. #chaelisyourboss
@Manley156 I met him 2 days ago at Bellator. Great guy. When he showed up ppl just gravitated to him and he took pictures with everyone for like 30 minutes.
Chelsea just has issues, she doesn't have to put them onto others
Schultz needs to drop the Freddie Mercury look
I dont think your 2 points on Handler have much to do with each other.
Is her past trauma the reason no, is it part of her reason, yes, sure...
OR....OR... she just doesnt want kids?!?! She has never wanted kids. Has always said she didnt want kids. She's never changed her mind on that topic...
Traumas from our childhood help shape who we are as adults, thats not some new, unknown idea or concept🎉
Does anyone know if they make that jacket Schulz is wearing in men's sizes?
My Dad took early retirement at 62 and took on a management gig at a car rental place for years and then afterward took on a contracting gig for the gov't for many more years. He didn't stop "working" until he was in his late 70's.
Much respect for PBD. I sometimes achieve something in the ballpark, but it goes against my emotional Celtic programming! I am a work in progress and appreciate good examples to follow.
The PBD interview with Sammy the Bull is still one of my fav all-time podcasts ever.
Patrick is the best the whole pbd show is great
Handler is the living proof of Karma working.
I wouldn't have felt comfortable enough to sit there. A guy having his arm behind me while sitting is just such an invasion of personal space.
People with kids look down on those without kids. People without kids look down on those with kids. It's silly.
As someone who doesn’t plan on have kids, I honestly couldn’t care less if people decide to have children or not. I’m an adult.
@@jacksoncowsert6964yep. Live and let live. I get more heat from parents about my childfree choices than anyone else. Why force people who don't want kids to have them? Do they want neglected and abused children just to make society happy? Also, children don't always change you for the better. My cousin became an even BIGGER narcissist after having two daughters which sadly they're following her footsteps. I cut them off completely.
Dec 19 2021 my older brother passes away in a car accident at the age of 57 our parents still alive in the mid 80’s the pain that this did to them is undeniably real that day i lost my ole family brother,dad and mom they never recovered and live in denial every day.
No parent should have to bury their child. I am sorry for your loss.
Always enjoyed these interviews,not always on the same page. But definitely entertaining 🙏💯👍
There are so many women out there, just like her.
I doubt Chelsea Handler's tragedy has anything to do with why she didn't want kids. I think she just didn't want kids because she didn't, she focused on different things during her child bearing years, it happens. A lot of ppl didn't even plan to have kids. It happened just because they were having a lot of sex, someone gets pregnant and then they say oh well I guess we should get married now.
Finally, a sensible person in the comments.✌️
The nuclear family is weak. It creates orphans and homelessness. The whole point of the nuclear family was mirroring noble dynasties. A community was seen as a threat to nobility, but a family could be easily defeated. As a matter of fact a family will destroy itself.
a broken spirit needs compassion
Why is Patrick pushing this guy??? Even mentioned him to Top G!
Dude crosses his legs 🤣
PBD!!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Spoken like a true champ, demonstration of hijger value
Pat starts with baseline. Start with your assumptions. Too many people take for granted we all have the same baseline facts and assumptions and end up arguing past each other
Who is the guy being interviewed?
This is really what "mindfullness" is.
Here’s the thing right
It’s not impossible to be never workout and be okay
It’s not impossible to be socially isolated/hermit and be okay
It’s not impossible to eat mostly unhealthy and be okay
It’s not impossible to date casual/one night and be okay
It’s not impossible to be childless/no family and be okay
However
The point is the overwhelming majority of us require a balance between all these things to be at an optimal level mentally and physically.
One person’s subjective experience isn’t enough to draw a conclusion. That’s completely anecdotal.
5:55 - this is a great approach. It’s called “seek to understand” - the world is a better place with this approach
A great example of what PBD said about Chelsea Handler, is when I saw Tucker Carlson interview Martin Shkreli, the most hated man in the USA seven years ago. After watching the interview, I had a completely different view on him, I might still think that to increase the price of a drug, by such a large amount, is morally not good, he explained his story and it made me think.
PBD, the man who says he's worth 5 times more than his real net worth 😂
Right! He's a scam!!!
@@pwalker69 He's a typical example of a smart but extremely manipulative narcissist.
It’s better to say you didn’t want to have kids because of your past experiences, than to say so go around having sex, get drunk and avoid responsibility
Nobody’s perfect, we all have our flaws.
I helped raise my younger siblings. So naturally, I didn't want kids when I was younger. Once I had kids...I realized how ignorant that was.
IF EVERYONE IS THE SAME SIZE.. HEAVYWEIGHT.. Which boxers style is the most dominant?
- Ali
- Tyson
- Mayweather
- Foreman
- Chavez
- Dela Hoya
- other
Damn, this MLM scammer is super good at armchair psychology!
Time well spent, actually, watching this clip!
I fished out of Inglewood FL back in the 1990-2000 Era. Long line grouper.
Chelsea is just bitter because maybe just maybe she wanted a family but chose not to and is too OLD NOW TO BE A MOTHER EVER AGAIN. I'd be bitter too but those were choices she herself made. Don't cry n complain dissing and ridiculing others for choosing family life. There's more to life than living alone and sleeping around without consequences, come on party life gets old because we do. She didnt have those views and choices originally, it happened over a long period in time caused by a single trajic event. Get real with yourself Chelsey grow up.
So people are being shamed for not having kids now? 😂😂😂 Patrick, get off the juice man
His true intolerant colors are showing more and more. He's an ideologue.
Yea man your tactics are beautiful, an absolutely ingenious👍🏻
PBD is a slick charlatan
My view on things is very simple: whatever you are saying = your message, the message should always be able to stand independent of the messenger. Now the messenger can give context but if your message/views can’t stand on its own 2 feet then your message imo has no value. People are always entitled to their opinions but if people don’t understand the world we live in, the times we live in , the fact that although we dislike having enemies they are all out there, there’s a time for cohesion and there’s a time for change and maybe when the enemies are knocking cohesion should come first.
Great advice
Its probably a context thing but I find it very hard to follow the interviewee - but the bits I took are gold. I need to replay this a few times and maybe play it as 0.5x speed
Her needing to remind 50 Cent to vote democrat 'because he's black' makes so much more sense now
What is a SDE?
the bursts of room ambience in the audio is so distracting....
Great clup guys.
Even better no adverts. Better again, no Spinsters or Karen's in comments
Handler's tragedy is that she's under 50 and wasn't aborted.
Facts
It is sad what happened to her brother and parents and subsequently, her. It may explain why she is like she is but at the same time, it doesn't excuse it. There are plenty of criminals sitting in jail that had terrible things happen to them. We don't just give them a pass because if it.
Russell Brand put CH in her place so masterfully in her interview with him
If pbd is so smart then why does he employ Adam?
Sorry PBD. You’re not a psychologist. You have no clue what Chelsea’s issues are or why she’s made the decisions she’s made.
Yeah, Chelsea says all that stuff but then a man who does that, she calls them scum and lowlifes.
Combat sports are a form of communication.
George Foreman throws punch
Dude: this was a bad idea
He's more impressive the more that I see him. Just like Jordan Peterson. I know that they're not perfect and everyone has their garbage, but I only know three men in my 49yrs that are worth the upmost respect and admiration enough to emulate.
Schultz is right Pats a cool dude