Just to avoid any confusion, in this video I'm talking about how film got knocked from the throne as the universal medium of photographic capture. Film will never be in that position again sadly, and after a century of rule, that is a profound change. That is what I meant by "killed" and I'm not talking any technical qualities of film or how popular it may or may not be now. It's safe to say, film will never be the choice for the masses again.
7:45 this is what makes YOU a legend 💪🏼 the only guy I know of that has a full catalog of his photography life! your wild young naive years through to your current seasoned peaceful place 🙏 thanks for sharing the ride… look forward to many more videos 👏👏
Thanks awesome Slapster!! 😍 I appreciate your kind words and for taking this ride with me. You are leading a new generation of Camera Legends with your awesome videos, I thank YOU for sharing your experiences, I think the average viewer doesn't know how much work and information we put out on these videos. Stay awesome 💪💪 Thank you for your consistent support I appreciate it very much!! 🙏📸🙏👍
@@cameralegend1033 Yes, but where has that quality gone? Instead we are in flatland without any 3d pop, in the newer lenses especially. Canon mk1 L lenses where amazing!
@TheNewArtSchool I totally agree with that! The original L lenses were and are still amazing. It's almost as if Canon has given us the new mirrorless cameras, which are in some instances almost as big as the old DSLRs, given us new L lenses which are twice as expensive with two times less 3D pop...I'm with you on this! 😂📸👍
really great photo! i love all the context from when this camera first came out... it's stuff thats hard to imagine from the perspective of someone like me who has had good digital photography exist for most of their life.. So fascinating!
@@protogon Thanks for the kind words! Yes I appreciate hearing your perspective because I made this video so that the younger generation could at least try to see what it was like from the perspective of someone who lived it. Today, for example, we can all go online and get something like a 5D Classic for $175 or an A7 or any used EOS full frame but back then the 1Ds was your only choice for years. Thanks again for your comments I really appreciate it!
11 mpixels and full frame in 2002! Is it any wonder? Nikon was a full 3 years later. The digital takeover was as rapid as CDs taking over LPs. Tower records went from LPs to CDs in one year. The camera show at Javits went from film to digital in the same time interval!. But the pro switch is as you have said. As usual a very informative and educational video!
@@frankbosco293 Always great to hear from the legendary Frank B!! If anyone would remember those days, it's you Bro-Meister 😍 I'd still love to get you on one of these episodes, the world has got to know the LEGEND of Boscodamus! Regards to Mrs B and the family and Happy Holidays 😍❤️👍
@@fotoScentfx-zr6kl Awesome! The 1Ds III was the last and perhaps best of the 1Ds trilogy. That map was pretty fantastic too, although mine is long gone 😂 Appreciate hearing from you thank you!
Great video, man! I've had the 1Ds for a while and the results are awesome for such an old camera! Very sharp! An absolute pro camera. Big, heavy and so expensive at that time. The sensor was a sensation for 2002! Moire and noise are very present, but who cares, this is over 20 years old! 😉
@@yesteryearcameras Thanks! And absolutely right on! That's one of the points I was trying to make in this video. Back then, the noise seemed bothersome because we were supposed to be moving forward in digital technology but now that we're "there" with noiseless cameras, it doesn't matter! Appreciate your comments thank you! 😍🙏👍
I picked one up a few years ago for $125 bucks with a 50mm EF lens.. I like it's color balance , I guess it's only ' con' is it's wide angel limit and the old compact flash memory.. I'm keeping it and getting more prime lenses..
@@parttime9070 Awesome! Glad to hear from another 1Ds user and I agree with your observations about its limitations. Also a wise choice to use primes with this camera. I use primes exclusively with the 1Ds to really maximize those beautiful 11.1 megapixels. Thanks much for your comments I appreciate it!
I traded in 2 film cameras Nikon F100 and a Nikon F80, for a Nikon D40. It was my first digital camera and I was really excited. After 2 years I saw the price of film cameras drop significantly.. and I purchased a Nikon F80 for $20 dollars!! Used of course, but still $20. I still shoot film cameras and digital cameras.
@@marshalltravis3217 Awesome! It seems you were getting some great film camera deals around the same time I did! There was indeed a time when film cameras hit an all time low on the used market and there were some insane deals. The F80/N80 is a terrific capable value camera, almost a baby F100 in some ways and quieter to boot. Appreciate you sharing your experiences thank you!
Amazing captures!!! Have you ever printed 30” x 14” prints with this camera? I would love to own one to capture images to decorate my home. I love the ccd quality.
@@DirtyDeadRabbit Thanks for the kind words! I have seen prints larger than that from this camera and they looked great. However "great" is very subjective and personal to the person viewing the print. It is very likely that a modern mirrorless camera could make better looking prints than this camera, but this camera can no doubt handle the print size you mentioned. Also keep in mind, the quality of the glass, the technique, all this will define how good a photo looks when printed large. Hope this helps.
@@ThomasL.116 Thanks! The CCD vs CMOS thing has been on my to do list for a long time but just like "film vs digital" it's a topic that has many layers and many opposing opinions. As seen by some of the comments on this video I nearly got killed for saying this camera "killed" film 😂 So I'm just trying to figure my approach before doing a video on this. Thanks for your input it is well noted. Thank you!!
I'm a Nikon shooter. I have a D5 and a D850 but I also have a D200 and a D300. Both of those cameras are every bit as good as the D5 in good light for consumption on digital devices. I don't print large images. So, while I use the D850 the most, I don't benefit that much from it. Where it does shine is low light. The D5 is magic and the D850 has a BSI-CMOS sensor, which works really well in dark conditions.
@@treyedean Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I don't have the D5 or D850 but I do have the older D200 and D300, both awesome cameras. That D5 is on my someday list. Thanks for the valuable insights!
This episode is almost too thought-provoking. I'd like your impression of the Canon pro level cameras that followed the 1Ds, comparing them to the 5D Classic for reference would be helpful.
I appreciate your input Number Six this is right down my alley! The suggestion to use the 5D Classic as a reference is a great suggestion thank you!! 😍🙏💪👍
@@charlesblithfield6182 True! Could you believe when I first got one in 2005 I got it for $3500? It had depreciated that much in three years. But yeah, can't beat $80! Thanks for watching and for your comments I appreciate it!
Yeah, please tell us what you think about CCD. What you say makes sense about processing and such making a bigger difference. I'd say that CCD output is more accurate and less noisy, requiring less processing! (Robin W gets quite angry at such foolishness!) You know scientists still use CCD sensors...
Thanks Number Six! I do hope to make an episode on this. It is quite a complicated and decisive topic with a lot of technicalities but I hope to do it in a way that anyone can understand. I'm glad to know scientists are using the beloved CCD technology! Your input is valuable. Thanks much for your comments!
@okaro6595 Yes of course things have changed. I'm not sure what you're trying to say but the whole point of this episode is to relive history and tell the story to a whole new generation.
@cameralegend1033 One of my favorite photos is a forest sunset my sister snapped on her iPhone. All she had to do was see the beauty and frame the shot, and in a couple hundred milliseconds, her little robot friend processed it into something like what the human eye sees. It's a great alternative to photography.
@numbersix8919 Thanks for sharing that story Number Six! I have no reason to doubt that your sister took an awesome and memorable photo with her iPhone 😍 In fact, half the time I tell anyone who asked me about how they could get better pics by fiddling around with their cameras, I say...just use your phone Bro! 😂 Serious! 👍
@@SA-rz6fj Haha you must be referring to the shades. It seems to be a point of contention for a lot of people but honestly do you see that studio light in the glasses? Well I have sensitive eyes and it bothers me. I couldn't complete a long segment without the shades. I tried to get rid of them because I want people to focus on the cameras I'm talking about, not me but sometimes I need them. But the cameras are the Camera Legends thanks!
@@BavarianM Ah yes I clearly stated what I meant by "killed" all throughout the video but especially here at 4:50 ...I stated that yes, film is alive, it thrives, and it's expensive and that today it is also a niche market whereas in 2002 film was still king but clinging on for dear life. This camera basically changed the balance to digital when people started realizing that it could compete with film, especially when professional photographers started gravitating towards this camera.
@@cameralegend1033 But digital didn't kill film. Digital is good for documentation, but not for art. Film has higher dynamic range. More control of exposure. More natural look. Also it takes skill to use a film camera. The film photographer must understand what he is doing. It takes a certain finesse. I really don't think digital guys have as much inherent talent as film photographers do. Digital cameras become obsolete very soon after they are purchased. Buy one film camera and you are pretty much set for life. Yeah digital didn't kill anything, what TF are you even talking about. Change the title of the video, because it is absurd hyperbole and just makes you look foolish.
@doofwop I anticipated this kind of response and I addressed it all in this video. Everyone knows, well almost everyone knows, that film is still around. It's like if someone said "Man Mike Tyson got killed in that fight!" Most people would know he didn't literally get "killed." Have you actually watched the video? Because if you did you would know I was not talking about the technical qualities of film such as dynamic range or anything else. I'm talking about how film got knocked from the throne as the universal medium of photographic capture. Film will never be in that position again and that is what I meant by "killed." The funny thing is I can actually understand where you're coming from because I started as a film shooter, started with a Kodak Disc Camera in 1984. Shot it all, 35mm to large format. I used to say the things you said about film shooters having more talent, but I think honestly many get points just for shooting film and not the other aspects of the shots, ie lightning, composition, etc. You can take good or lousy photos on film or digital. I can appreciate your sentiments but as I said in the video you shouldn't take things so literally. This is TH-cam. At the end of the day it's entertainment.
@@doofwopit’s easier to expose film correctly than digital. When I’m shooting HP5 if I’m within 2-3 stops of correct exposure I’m good. Can’t say the same with digital.
@@feints7714 I have used the Nikon D3 for professional work. I love the D3! But the D3 was Nikon's first full frame DSLR in 2007. It took them five years to catch up to the Canon EOS 1Ds
Just to avoid any confusion, in this video I'm talking about how film got knocked from the throne as the universal medium of photographic capture.
Film will never be in that position again sadly, and after a century of rule, that is a profound change. That is what I meant by "killed" and I'm not talking any technical qualities of film or how popular it may or may not be now. It's safe to say, film will never be the choice for the masses again.
7:45 this is what makes YOU a legend 💪🏼 the only guy I know of that has a full catalog of his photography life! your wild young naive years through to your current seasoned peaceful place 🙏 thanks for sharing the ride… look forward to many more videos 👏👏
Thanks awesome Slapster!! 😍 I appreciate your kind words and for taking this ride with me. You are leading a new generation of Camera Legends with your awesome videos, I thank YOU for sharing your experiences, I think the average viewer doesn't know how much work and information we put out on these videos. Stay awesome 💪💪 Thank you for your consistent support I appreciate it very much!! 🙏📸🙏👍
So much valuable information in this video! Thank you much for this video, it's a great resource.
Great video! The 1Ds mkII is for me, the greatest dslr ever made.
@@TheNewArtSchool A good argument could be made for that I agree! The 1Ds II is all the 1Ds Classic is but perhaps even better!
@@cameralegend1033 I always feel as if there is film inside. If only it wasnt so heavy!
@TheNewArtSchool Haha yes these cameras are really like dinosaurs of sorts! 😂👍
@@cameralegend1033 Yes, but where has that quality gone? Instead we are in flatland without any 3d pop, in the newer lenses especially. Canon mk1 L lenses where amazing!
@TheNewArtSchool I totally agree with that! The original L lenses were and are still amazing. It's almost as if Canon has given us the new mirrorless cameras, which are in some instances almost as big as the old DSLRs, given us new L lenses which are twice as expensive with two times less 3D pop...I'm with you on this! 😂📸👍
really great photo! i love all the context from when this camera first came out... it's stuff thats hard to imagine from the perspective of someone like me who has had good digital photography exist for most of their life.. So fascinating!
@@protogon Thanks for the kind words! Yes I appreciate hearing your perspective because I made this video so that the younger generation could at least try to see what it was like from the perspective of someone who lived it. Today, for example, we can all go online and get something like a 5D Classic for $175 or an A7 or any used EOS full frame but back then the 1Ds was your only choice for years. Thanks again for your comments I really appreciate it!
Such a great episode.
@@christopherrodriguez7223 Thanks Chris for the kind words! Appreciate you bud as always! 😍🙏👍
11 mpixels and full frame in 2002! Is it any wonder? Nikon was a full 3 years later. The digital takeover was as rapid as CDs taking over LPs. Tower records went from LPs to CDs in one year. The camera show at Javits went from film to digital in the same time interval!. But the pro switch is as you have said. As usual a very informative and educational video!
@@frankbosco293 Always great to hear from the legendary Frank B!! If anyone would remember those days, it's you Bro-Meister 😍 I'd still love to get you on one of these episodes, the world has got to know the LEGEND of Boscodamus! Regards to Mrs B and the family and Happy Holidays 😍❤️👍
I also have the same world map, and I had a 1DS, but I sold it to get a 1Ds Mark III.
@@fotoScentfx-zr6kl Awesome! The 1Ds III was the last and perhaps best of the 1Ds trilogy. That map was pretty fantastic too, although mine is long gone 😂 Appreciate hearing from you thank you!
Great video, man! I've had the 1Ds for a while and the results are awesome for such an old camera! Very sharp! An absolute pro camera. Big, heavy and so expensive at that time. The sensor was a sensation for 2002! Moire and noise are very present, but who cares, this is over 20 years old! 😉
@@yesteryearcameras Thanks! And absolutely right on! That's one of the points I was trying to make in this video. Back then, the noise seemed bothersome because we were supposed to be moving forward in digital technology but now that we're "there" with noiseless cameras, it doesn't matter! Appreciate your comments thank you! 😍🙏👍
I picked one up a few years ago for $125 bucks with a 50mm EF lens.. I like it's color balance , I guess it's only ' con' is it's wide angel limit and the old compact flash memory.. I'm keeping it and getting more prime lenses..
@@parttime9070 Awesome! Glad to hear from another 1Ds user and I agree with your observations about its limitations. Also a wise choice to use primes with this camera. I use primes exclusively with the 1Ds to really maximize those beautiful 11.1 megapixels. Thanks much for your comments I appreciate it!
How's the battery and battery replacement situation?
@@unbroken1010 The batteries are still easily found but good point, a potential issue are the older batteries.
@@cameralegend1033i have an original battery that dies quick and a replacement thats worse. gotta look into a better replacement
I traded in 2 film cameras Nikon F100 and a Nikon F80, for a Nikon D40. It was my first digital camera and I was really excited.
After 2 years I saw the price of film cameras drop significantly.. and I purchased a Nikon F80 for $20 dollars!! Used of course, but still $20.
I still shoot film cameras and digital cameras.
@@marshalltravis3217 Awesome! It seems you were getting some great film camera deals around the same time I did! There was indeed a time when film cameras hit an all time low on the used market and there were some insane deals. The F80/N80 is a terrific capable value camera, almost a baby F100 in some ways and quieter to boot. Appreciate you sharing your experiences thank you!
Amazing captures!!! Have you ever printed 30” x 14” prints with this camera? I would love to own one to capture images to decorate my home. I love the ccd quality.
@@DirtyDeadRabbit Thanks for the kind words! I have seen prints larger than that from this camera and they looked great. However "great" is very subjective and personal to the person viewing the print. It is very likely that a modern mirrorless camera could make better looking prints than this camera, but this camera can no doubt handle the print size you mentioned. Also keep in mind, the quality of the glass, the technique, all this will define how good a photo looks when printed large. Hope this helps.
I purchased a Canon EOS 1 D mkII, and 2 batteries and charger, bag and book for $200.
Best money I spent all year!!
@@marshalltravis3217 That is a great deal on a great camera congrats!! 👍
ccd - cmos episode: yes, please!
@@ThomasL.116 Thanks! The CCD vs CMOS thing has been on my to do list for a long time but just like "film vs digital" it's a topic that has many layers and many opposing opinions.
As seen by some of the comments on this video I nearly got killed for saying this camera "killed" film 😂
So I'm just trying to figure my approach before doing a video on this. Thanks for your input it is well noted. Thank you!!
@cameralegend1033 Thanks! It seems that people tend to have difficulties in hearing opinions which are different from their own...
@ThomasL.116 That is the TRUTH!! Amen!😍🙏👍
I'm a Nikon shooter. I have a D5 and a D850 but I also have a D200 and a D300. Both of those cameras are every bit as good as the D5 in good light for consumption on digital devices. I don't print large images. So, while I use the D850 the most, I don't benefit that much from it. Where it does shine is low light. The D5 is magic and the D850 has a BSI-CMOS sensor, which works really well in dark conditions.
@@treyedean Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I don't have the D5 or D850 but I do have the older D200 and D300, both awesome cameras. That D5 is on my someday list. Thanks for the valuable insights!
This episode is almost too thought-provoking. I'd like your impression of the Canon pro level cameras that followed the 1Ds, comparing them to the 5D Classic for reference would be helpful.
I appreciate your input Number Six this is right down my alley! The suggestion to use the 5D Classic as a reference is a great suggestion thank you!! 😍🙏💪👍
It originally cost like $8000! You bought your used one for 100x the original price.
@@charlesblithfield6182 True! Could you believe when I first got one in 2005 I got it for $3500? It had depreciated that much in three years. But yeah, can't beat $80! Thanks for watching and for your comments I appreciate it!
Yeah, please tell us what you think about CCD. What you say makes sense about processing and such making a bigger difference. I'd say that CCD output is more accurate and less noisy, requiring less processing! (Robin W gets quite angry at such foolishness!) You know scientists still use CCD sensors...
Thanks Number Six! I do hope to make an episode on this. It is quite a complicated and decisive topic with a lot of technicalities but I hope to do it in a way that anyone can understand. I'm glad to know scientists are using the beloved CCD technology! Your input is valuable. Thanks much for your comments!
That was the case 20 years ago. Things have changed.
@okaro6595 Yes of course things have changed. I'm not sure what you're trying to say but the whole point of this episode is to relive history and tell the story to a whole new generation.
@cameralegend1033 One of my favorite photos is a forest sunset my sister snapped on her iPhone. All she had to do was see the beauty and frame the shot, and in a couple hundred milliseconds, her little robot friend processed it into something like what the human eye sees. It's a great alternative to photography.
@numbersix8919 Thanks for sharing that story Number Six! I have no reason to doubt that your sister took an awesome and memorable photo with her iPhone 😍 In fact, half the time I tell anyone who asked me about how they could get better pics by fiddling around with their cameras, I say...just use your phone Bro! 😂 Serious! 👍
Wow, must be real sunny in that basement.
@@SA-rz6fj Haha you must be referring to the shades. It seems to be a point of contention for a lot of people but honestly do you see that studio light in the glasses? Well I have sensitive eyes and it bothers me. I couldn't complete a long segment without the shades. I tried to get rid of them because I want people to focus on the cameras I'm talking about, not me but sometimes I need them. But the cameras are the Camera Legends thanks!
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didn't kill anything,as film is more alive than ever
@@BavarianM Ah yes I clearly stated what I meant by "killed" all throughout the video but especially here at 4:50 ...I stated that yes, film is alive, it thrives, and it's expensive and that today it is also a niche market whereas in 2002 film was still king but clinging on for dear life. This camera basically changed the balance to digital when people started realizing that it could compete with film, especially when professional photographers started gravitating towards this camera.
@@cameralegend1033 But digital didn't kill film. Digital is good for documentation, but not for art. Film has higher dynamic range. More control of exposure. More natural look. Also it takes skill to use a film camera. The film photographer must understand what he is doing. It takes a certain finesse. I really don't think digital guys have as much inherent talent as film photographers do. Digital cameras become obsolete very soon after they are purchased. Buy one film camera and you are pretty much set for life. Yeah digital didn't kill anything, what TF are you even talking about. Change the title of the video, because it is absurd hyperbole and just makes you look foolish.
@doofwop I anticipated this kind of response and I addressed it all in this video. Everyone knows, well almost everyone knows, that film is still around. It's like if someone said "Man Mike Tyson got killed in that fight!" Most people would know he didn't literally get "killed."
Have you actually watched the video? Because if you did you would know I was not talking about the technical qualities of film such as dynamic range or anything else.
I'm talking about how film got knocked from the throne as the universal medium of photographic capture. Film will never be in that position again and that is what I meant by "killed."
The funny thing is I can actually understand where you're coming from because I started as a film shooter, started with a Kodak Disc Camera in 1984. Shot it all, 35mm to large format. I used to say the things you said about film shooters having more talent, but I think honestly many get points just for shooting film and not the other aspects of the shots, ie lightning, composition, etc. You can take good or lousy photos on film or digital. I can appreciate your sentiments but as I said in the video you shouldn't take things so literally. This is TH-cam. At the end of the day it's entertainment.
@@doofwop so how many pro’s shoot film on a daily basis? Film is a niche market
@@doofwopit’s easier to expose film correctly than digital. When I’m shooting HP5 if I’m within 2-3 stops of correct exposure I’m good. Can’t say the same with digital.
Pretty sure the Nikon D3 was the real film killer.
@@feints7714 I have used the Nikon D3 for professional work. I love the D3! But the D3 was Nikon's first full frame DSLR in 2007. It took them five years to catch up to the Canon EOS 1Ds