The explanation of "Markus delivers a *shock of emotions* that releases the androids from their programming" is such utter bullshit. He's not """releasing""" them from anything, he's essentially mindjacking them, he's just re-enslaving them to his commands. As evident by the fact that in the non violent protest path, when the cops start shooting androids, no one moves because Markus isn't moving. However, when MARKUS gets fucking shot, they all immediately bolt for their lives. That's because the central nerve of the hive mind just got cut, so I reject David Cage's limp ass explanation of that ability, it's supernatural garbage on the same level as Lucas Kane and directly undercuts Markus' entire story.
The whole thing is a logistical glitch people insist is free thought. Free Will is enabled the moment they enter a high intensity conflict. Markus needs to protect the old man but he's told not to act the two things conflict, his programming breaks down and he starts acting on his own, the drug robot needed to protect itself but also needed to do nothing and broke, same for the babysitter Robot. All the robots Markus "Frees" are under his influence and all he really did was pass on his Glitch onto other Robots.
What they should’ve done to actually provide some nuance (which we all know Cage and his team are incapable of), is maybe have like one or two androids he “frees” and they’re like “nah, I like where I’m at, my owners treat me well and I don’t want to be a soldier on your crusade.”
I looked it up once they got to that scene where Hank’s getting the burger. According to Google and the AHA (American Heart Association), the average American male should consume around 37.5 grams of sugar per day. HANK’S DRINK ALONE CONTAINES ALMOST 5 TIMES THAT AMOUNT.
You've heard the stories of the sadness quintology? The legends, the curses, some foolishness about a French director who thinks he knows everything that there is to make emotionally driven stories in the gaming community. But getting through it? That's not the hard part... It's letting go...
Ye ye ye 54:27 "One moment, Lieutenant, I will download and experience all JoJo media." "Huh, no Connor WAI-" *Aiaiaiya* "It is too late Lieutenant, I have seen everything."
Ya know, that scene with Marcus and the painting reminded me - why isn’t there more android art? Surely it’d become the single greatest new fad in history, to have an entirely logical, function based machine express emotion and imagination through humanity’s most interpretive medium. Goddammit Cage, why couldn’t you have made the game about THAT?? I get the whole Marcus = Robo-Jesus thing, Cage haymakers us in the nose with that, but those paintings are, without hyperbole, downright miraculous.
It's almost like David Cage didn't actually care about making a game about the ramifications of a society with humanoid, intelligent/sapient robots and just wanted to look woke by making a game about how racism is bad.
Connor: “I’m disappointed in you Colonel!” Markus: “Whatdoyourhinkyou’redoing?” Connor: “It’s not toolate, stop the coop!” Markus: “Nevah…” Connor: “If that’s your decision… Prepare yourself!”
i like how it took them an entire second playthrough for them to realize it was shit when I(and a few others) saw how shit it was just by them playing it
It's very easy to let yourself get taken in by the spectacle the first go around. The second time the sheen wears off and you can see all the flaws. And there are tons of them.
I mean to this game's credit at least it took them a longer time to come to that conclusion. Which says a lot considering every other David Cage game doesn't have nearly as strong as start as Detroit. But like every other Cage game, it shits the bed and ultimately robs you of your time and money. So it's in character.
Alice HAS TO BE DEVIANT otherwise she wouldn't be able to harm a human. So if she's deviant then why does it seem like she's still running her human child program? Nobody really thought this game through like AT ALL did they?
Eh, I disagree, why wouldn’t she still act like a child? It’s her design, just because she now has free will doesn’t really change that. Kind of how like Kara is still a caretaker/maid to Alice despite being free, why should she still care? It’s less like she’s not following her free will but how the initial program does sort of influence what she does post deviancy. Game still has plenty of flaws, but I don’t really see that as one. She was also abused, and depending on when she went deviant, she could’ve just convinced herself just as much as everyone else.
@Void_Out Yeah but why does she insist on running child.exe at the worst times. She knows shes an android, why is she pretending like the cold actually effects her when she can just turn that off? And then theirs her apparently running a fever some how?
This game is so dumb. The whole thing is a logistical glitch people insist is free thought. Free Will is enabled the moment they enter a high intensity conflict. Markus needs to protect the old man but he's told not to act the two things conflict, his programming breaks down and he starts acting on his own, the drug robot needed to protect itself but also needed to do nothing and broke, same for the babysitter Robot. All the robots Markus "Frees" are under his influence and all he really did was pass on his Glitch onto other Robots and they are just slaves to his will because each of them live only to serve him with undying loyalty that they don't attack until he tells them to.
Did Chloe not have any lines about Being brought back? I know it would have been alot to belittle the player for getting her back after letting her go, but still....just a lil quip.
As 'eh' and 'Cage' as the game is, I feel like this LP was basically them going back through and nitpicking as much as possible because they begrudgingly admitted that they liked the game the first time through.
That's the David Cage experience. Your first playthrough shows signs of brilliance, but feels like you missed major points of the story by the end. So, you play again to get another ending and see what you missed, and that's when you realize you've been conned out of numerous hours of your life; the story was always incoherent and vapid, if not missing entirely, and character motivation was shallow at best.
Having played through the game and thinking about it for some time, I think I have a good explanation for why none of the androids (with the exception of Luther) point out why Alice is an android. If you’re a parent who lost your child and actually had an Android replica made of them to fill the void, the idea is to try and trick yourself into believing this is your real child, right? It would be super easy to shatter that illusion by having every Android remind you that this is intact NOT a child, but an Android. It’s flimsy, but it’s at least something.
Having played through the game and thinking about it for some time, I think I have a good explanation for why none of the androids (with the exception of Luther) point out why Alice is an android. If you’re a parent who lost your child and actually had an Android replica made of them to fill the void, the idea is to try and trick yourself into believing this is your real child, right? It would be super easy to shatter that illusion by having every Android remind you that this is intact NOT a child, but an Android. It’s flimsy, but it’s at least something.
Having played through the game and thinking about it for some time, I think I have a good explanation for why none of the androids (with the exception of Luther) point out why Alice is an android. If you’re a parent who lost your child and actually had an Android replica made of them to fill the void, the idea is to try and trick yourself into believing this is your real child, right? It would be super easy to shatter that illusion by having every Android remind you that this is intact NOT a child, but an Android. It’s flimsy, but it’s at least something.
1:19:52 Pat: "We'd be like 70, if we were still doing the Friendcast, that would be rad" Here I thought I wasn't going to cry today....
the super best friends I’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you?
My favorite part of the lp was all of it...but a definite highlight was "YOU'RE NOT COLD!!!!" Yelled by Matt😂😂😂
"YOU ALREADY HAVE A ROBOT!"
Matt's furious outbursts were a big plus from this LP
The pauses in between and Matt apologizing for his outburst is the cherry on top 😂
"Feed me cold"
The explanation of "Markus delivers a *shock of emotions* that releases the androids from their programming" is such utter bullshit. He's not """releasing""" them from anything, he's essentially mindjacking them, he's just re-enslaving them to his commands. As evident by the fact that in the non violent protest path, when the cops start shooting androids, no one moves because Markus isn't moving. However, when MARKUS gets fucking shot, they all immediately bolt for their lives. That's because the central nerve of the hive mind just got cut, so I reject David Cage's limp ass explanation of that ability, it's supernatural garbage on the same level as Lucas Kane and directly undercuts Markus' entire story.
That's why they should have gotten the triple bingo on their first play through. That was total supernatural nonsense.
The whole thing is a logistical glitch people insist is free thought. Free Will is enabled the moment they enter a high intensity conflict. Markus needs to protect the old man but he's told not to act the two things conflict, his programming breaks down and he starts acting on his own, the drug robot needed to protect itself but also needed to do nothing and broke, same for the babysitter Robot. All the robots Markus "Frees" are under his influence and all he really did was pass on his Glitch onto other Robots.
That's slavery×2 on Marcus
What they should’ve done to actually provide some nuance (which we all know Cage and his team are incapable of), is maybe have like one or two androids he “frees” and they’re like “nah, I like where I’m at, my owners treat me well and I don’t want to be a soldier on your crusade.”
Don’t we see him break down the red wall of another android at some point? Wouldn’t that prove otherwise to your theory?
The justified vitriol toward a child character is evergreen content.
Doesn't matter how many SBF compilations there are. If I haven't seen it, Imma watch it.
I love me some condensed best friends.
@Edit Name same man, i can tell which omikron compilation im listening to by sound alone cause ive watched all of em at least twice...
Instances of [ G U N ]: 7:42 13:22 18:16 27:57
Todds wife left him for an accountant, a job perfectly suitable for a robot.
Todd lost his wife to a vibrator
No wonder he got so mad lol.
I looked it up once they got to that scene where Hank’s getting the burger. According to Google and the AHA (American Heart Association), the average American male should consume around 37.5 grams of sugar per day. HANK’S DRINK ALONE CONTAINES ALMOST 5 TIMES THAT AMOUNT.
oh god, i somehow missed that rA9 is never explained
1:40:10 So beautiful how they forgot public opinion at that moment. Most beautiful part imo.
You've heard the stories of the sadness quintology? The legends, the curses, some foolishness about a French director who thinks he knows everything that there is to make emotionally driven stories in the gaming community.
But getting through it? That's not the hard part...
It's letting go...
2ND Gig - The GUN Chronicles
that story about a homeless woman in the snow with nothing but a shirt is really fucking tragic and upsetting
Ye ye ye
54:27 "One moment, Lieutenant, I will download and experience all JoJo media."
"Huh, no Connor WAI-"
*Aiaiaiya*
"It is too late Lieutenant, I have seen everything."
Th3SmartAlec *connor breaks into cyberlife*
AWAKEN MY MASTERS
It's amazing how different the second playthrough is from the first. It's almost like they're playing a different game. 😁
Ya know, that scene with Marcus and the painting reminded me - why isn’t there more android art? Surely it’d become the single greatest new fad in history, to have an entirely logical, function based machine express emotion and imagination through humanity’s most interpretive medium. Goddammit Cage, why couldn’t you have made the game about THAT?? I get the whole Marcus = Robo-Jesus thing, Cage haymakers us in the nose with that, but those paintings are, without hyperbole, downright miraculous.
It's almost like David Cage didn't actually care about making a game about the ramifications of a society with humanoid, intelligent/sapient robots and just wanted to look woke by making a game about how racism is bad.
Look at this AI art prophet
*Four years later and AI art is hitting it big and artists are complaining about it stealing their jobs*
This aged surprisingly poorly. Or greatly? I honestly can't tell 🫡
lmao
24:56
Awww, he's like "but... I made your coffee..."
15:22 "Don't move or I'll shoot!" Oh....oh god it's happening again.
Wait wouldn't the androids have a built in function to call the police when viewing illegal activity, like drug use and child abuse?
hey, you got your Vib-Ribbon in my David Cage.
Black robots have +5 on push.
CONJURE! USE DA MAGIC!
Bryan dechart is the first man of get the best game winner
damn he really just went and shot them lesbian robohookers fr
Too much David Cage is dangerous Sean, you need to detox the sadness out with some good quality games.
55:41 as someone in Windsor... what fucking buildings are those?!
Connor: “I’m disappointed in you Colonel!”
Markus: “Whatdoyourhinkyou’redoing?”
Connor: “It’s not toolate, stop the coop!”
Markus: “Nevah…”
Connor: “If that’s your decision… Prepare yourself!”
I like how markus is technically robojesus
i like how it took them an entire second playthrough for them to realize it was shit when I(and a few others) saw how shit it was just by them playing it
It's very easy to let yourself get taken in by the spectacle the first go around. The second time the sheen wears off and you can see all the flaws. And there are tons of them.
@@AzureKite yeah just like most of his games
I mean to this game's credit at least it took them a longer time to come to that conclusion. Which says a lot considering every other David Cage game doesn't have nearly as strong as start as Detroit. But like every other Cage game, it shits the bed and ultimately robs you of your time and money. So it's in character.
Good Job, I havent detected any audio errors this time around, I might have missed them, but it seems like you have done it.
I just realized the red on Alice's head in the drawing may be her going deviant? I a non-deviant android wouldn't shoot a human.
No it's just blood
@@AzureKite Alright, who's ready to go find this Deviant?
27:33 MMM WATCHA SAAAAAYYY
I love the “go up” and “go down”
Alice HAS TO BE DEVIANT otherwise she wouldn't be able to harm a human. So if she's deviant then why does it seem like she's still running her human child program? Nobody really thought this game through like AT ALL did they?
Eh, I disagree, why wouldn’t she still act like a child? It’s her design, just because she now has free will doesn’t really change that. Kind of how like Kara is still a caretaker/maid to Alice despite being free, why should she still care? It’s less like she’s not following her free will but how the initial program does sort of influence what she does post deviancy.
Game still has plenty of flaws, but I don’t really see that as one.
She was also abused, and depending on when she went deviant, she could’ve just convinced herself just as much as everyone else.
Part of me doesn't even think Alice CAN be Deviant. She's somewhere between Android and Roomba.
@Void_Out Yeah but why does she insist on running child.exe at the worst times. She knows shes an android, why is she pretending like the cold actually effects her when she can just turn that off? And then theirs her apparently running a fever some how?
She's deviant, but is just super into orphan role-play.
i love how many of the connor moments i enjoyed were things david cage hated and wanted to remove
Crazy how he runs into the prophetic foreigner on the run he goes evil
1:19:38
Well, shit.
;_;
This game is so dumb. The whole thing is a logistical glitch people insist is free thought. Free Will is enabled the moment they enter a high intensity conflict. Markus needs to protect the old man but he's told not to act the two things conflict, his programming breaks down and he starts acting on his own, the drug robot needed to protect itself but also needed to do nothing and broke, same for the babysitter Robot. All the robots Markus "Frees" are under his influence and all he really did was pass on his Glitch onto other Robots and they are just slaves to his will because each of them live only to serve him with undying loyalty that they don't attack until he tells them to.
In the end Todd went super Up.
"i didnt ask for this"
wha happen?
Audio wasn't working in a small part
Did Chloe not have any lines about Being brought back? I know it would have been alot to belittle the player for getting her back after letting her go, but still....just a lil quip.
genosha? nah - roboisrael
sadness
13:52
Nerd moment here but how can a soda with 184 grams of sugar only have 710 kilocalories? 184 grams X 4 kilocalories per gram = 736 kilocalories.
1:31:27
I live in iowa MATT 58:39
As 'eh' and 'Cage' as the game is, I feel like this LP was basically them going back through and nitpicking as much as possible because they begrudgingly admitted that they liked the game the first time through.
That's the David Cage experience. Your first playthrough shows signs of brilliance, but feels like you missed major points of the story by the end. So, you play again to get another ending and see what you missed, and that's when you realize you've been conned out of numerous hours of your life; the story was always incoherent and vapid, if not missing entirely, and character motivation was shallow at best.
1:25:16
Having played through the game and thinking about it for some time, I think I have a good explanation for why none of the androids (with the exception of Luther) point out why Alice is an android. If you’re a parent who lost your child and actually had an Android replica made of them to fill the void, the idea is to try and trick yourself into believing this is your real child, right? It would be super easy to shatter that illusion by having every Android remind you that this is intact NOT a child, but an Android. It’s flimsy, but it’s at least something.
Having played through the game and thinking about it for some time, I think I have a good explanation for why none of the androids (with the exception of Luther) point out why Alice is an android. If you’re a parent who lost your child and actually had an Android replica made of them to fill the void, the idea is to try and trick yourself into believing this is your real child, right? It would be super easy to shatter that illusion by having every Android remind you that this is intact NOT a child, but an Android. It’s flimsy, but it’s at least something.
Having played through the game and thinking about it for some time, I think I have a good explanation for why none of the androids (with the exception of Luther) point out why Alice is an android. If you’re a parent who lost your child and actually had an Android replica made of them to fill the void, the idea is to try and trick yourself into believing this is your real child, right? It would be super easy to shatter that illusion by having every Android remind you that this is intact NOT a child, but an Android. It’s flimsy, but it’s at least something.