I don't think Chrollo could use Emporer Time if he stole it because a prerequisite to activating the ability is having your eyes go scarlet, which Chrollo is unable to do. It'd basically be useless to him.
I don’t think he would because Kirapika’s intent was to use it on Phantom Troupe members. While yes Chrollo is in the position to recruit new members, the possibility exists that Chrollo himself might not believe that they are true members of the Troupe and thus Chain Jail wouldn’t work as intended. It wouldn’t kill him because he doesn’t have Judgement Chain’s condition, but it would be significantly weaker than Kirapika’s Chain Jail for example.
Hmm I have 2 things to note. The first being that Kurapika used judgement chain on himself to empower chain jail, rather than making it an element of the ability. And I think that is a meaningful distinction. The restrictions you chose were about the requirements set in the ability itself, and how the user interprets that. Of course, if this is the case, Chrollo would not get the same power boost. Which would actually make it not very effective probably. The second is that this could 100% happen with Longhi's ability from a narrative perspective. In my opinion the chance this happens is absolutely tiny, but within the realm of possibilities.
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Think about it, though the condition for using it on a non-troop member was that Kurapika placed a chain around his own heart Sir Lucifer on the other hand doesn’t have a chain around his heart so he might be able just to use it without any repercussion
The condition was that if he used the ability on any one, but a spider the chain he placed around his heart would instantly pierce it. The condition was specific to it being pierced by a chain not just his heart stopping.
@@AsterDXZ that doesn't means much tbh. Chrollo is dedicated to what he does. Why wouldn't the chains act on the same way if Chrollo's intent is high? Right now in the manga he is 120% locked tf in, for example.
@@Bandit.ChrolloChrollo’s chain jail would be weaker because willpower alone can’t be compared to the boost from a Nen condition with death (one of if not the highest punishment for a condition) as the deterrent
just a small caveat RE chrollo "inducting" people into the phantom troupe if he wanted to use chain jail on them. I dont know if that would be possible based off of the vow that Kurapika made in york new city with judgement chain(?). Chrollo was forbidden to talk to other members of the phantom troupe, but as soon as hisoka revealed he wasnt actually a member of the phantom troupe, Chrollo figured out he was able to talk to him. So the nen would know if that person themselves considered them a part of the phantom troupe, and if their heart wasnt in it, chain jail wouldnt probably work and chrollo might die :O
Makes me wonder if his ability would work on Hisoka, considering he used to be apart of the group. Murderous intentions when he joined or not. What qualifies as a spider troop member? Ex member? If a spider renounced membership while he uses chain jail, would Kurapika die from his vows or would nothing happen? Food for thought, though it'd be weird to see chrollo fight with Kura's ability. Seems abit convoluted imo. I still believe is kura survives the Black whale voyage and chrollo doesn't, chrollo may hand off the leader role to him. So Kurapika can use the troop for good, the way they intended b4 they became jaded.
If he is bound by the same restrictions, then shouldn’t that include things like resolve? Kirapika’s willingness to put his life on the line to use chain jail comes from an incredibly personal origin. If Chrollo stole it, I’d imagine intentionally recruiting troupe members to kill them would have consequences.
3:17 That’s actually a pretty crazy idea and I could see him being able to bend the rules to pull that off if he wanted (letting someone into the PT just to use the ability on him). And since we don’t know how Scarlet Time activates Emperor Time, it could be as simple as Chrollo getting a pair of scarlet eyes from a collection or something before using the ability…
Chrollo will only be able to steal kurapika's conjurer ability. His specialist abiliy is because of his scalet eyes, chrollo can steal kurapika's scarlet eyes and then put it on him
Assuming Knuckle's APR (which is an awesome ability) worked and put Youpi in a zetsu state, how do you think the fight would go? I personally still think that they wouldn't be able to beat him. Kite fought Pitou, who also didn't know how to use nen and we know how that ended
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What's stopping you from actually just recreating the ability that he stole? It's not like he steals your memory or experience of making the ability. And let's go ahead and say that the ability you make HAS to be different from the stolen one. What then qualifies as "different"? Let's say I have the ability to conjure cans of Coca-Cola, which Chrollo steals. Can I then craft the ability to conjure cans of Pepsi? It's effectively the same ability, but it is TECHNICALLY different. Would I be able to?
You would be able to, 100%. Chrollo steals the specific hatsu only, not your conjuration power itself. But here's the thing..most nen users spend their lifetime perfecting only a hatsu. So having it stolen it's extremely bad bcs you have to start from zero and spend years on top of the years to rebuild another one.
I imagine it's dependent on complexity. So a simple hatsu like rock would likely be fairly easy to replace, but a complex one tied to the user's worldview like the sun and moon palm hatsu probably couldn't be recreated. I also wouldn't be surprised if your own mentality regarding the loss determined whether you could remake it. If, for example, a person saw the theft as a deeply personal loss, they'd be unlikely to be able to make the same/close enough hatsu.
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I don't think Chrollo could use Emporer Time if he stole it because a prerequisite to activating the ability is having your eyes go scarlet, which Chrollo is unable to do. It'd basically be useless to him.
I don’t think he would because Kirapika’s intent was to use it on Phantom Troupe members. While yes Chrollo is in the position to recruit new members, the possibility exists that Chrollo himself might not believe that they are true members of the Troupe and thus Chain Jail wouldn’t work as intended.
It wouldn’t kill him because he doesn’t have Judgement Chain’s condition, but it would be significantly weaker than Kirapika’s Chain Jail for example.
Hmm I have 2 things to note. The first being that Kurapika used judgement chain on himself to empower chain jail, rather than making it an element of the ability. And I think that is a meaningful distinction. The restrictions you chose were about the requirements set in the ability itself, and how the user interprets that. Of course, if this is the case, Chrollo would not get the same power boost. Which would actually make it not very effective probably.
The second is that this could 100% happen with Longhi's ability from a narrative perspective. In my opinion the chance this happens is absolutely tiny, but within the realm of possibilities.
Using Chain Jail on a non-Spider might still kill Kurapika
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Think about it, though the condition for using it on a non-troop member was that Kurapika placed a chain around his own heart Sir Lucifer on the other hand doesn’t have a chain around his heart so he might be able just to use it without any repercussion
The condition was that if he used the ability on any one, but a spider the chain he placed around his heart would instantly pierce it. The condition was specific to it being pierced by a chain not just his heart stopping.
But it would be weaker than Kirapika intended in my opinion. It goes against Kirapika’s intent so while it may work, it’d probably be weaker
@@AsterDXZ that doesn't means much tbh. Chrollo is dedicated to what he does. Why wouldn't the chains act on the same way if Chrollo's intent is high? Right now in the manga he is 120% locked tf in, for example.
@@Bandit.ChrolloChrollo’s chain jail would be weaker because willpower alone can’t be compared to the boost from a Nen condition with death (one of if not the highest punishment for a condition) as the deterrent
@@AsterDXZYeah you’re right, Chrollo could use it but it would be way weaker than Kurapika’s
And Chorollo could use judgment chain to inpose restrictions by himself
just a small caveat RE chrollo "inducting" people into the phantom troupe if he wanted to use chain jail on them. I dont know if that would be possible based off of the vow that Kurapika made in york new city with judgement chain(?). Chrollo was forbidden to talk to other members of the phantom troupe, but as soon as hisoka revealed he wasnt actually a member of the phantom troupe, Chrollo figured out he was able to talk to him. So the nen would know if that person themselves considered them a part of the phantom troupe, and if their heart wasnt in it, chain jail wouldnt probably work and chrollo might die :O
I'd say either he could chain jail anybody or it would only work on people kurapika himself considers a member
Makes me wonder if his ability would work on Hisoka, considering he used to be apart of the group. Murderous intentions when he joined or not. What qualifies as a spider troop member? Ex member? If a spider renounced membership while he uses chain jail, would Kurapika die from his vows or would nothing happen? Food for thought, though it'd be weird to see chrollo fight with Kura's ability. Seems abit convoluted imo. I still believe is kura survives the Black whale voyage and chrollo doesn't, chrollo may hand off the leader role to him. So Kurapika can use the troop for good, the way they intended b4 they became jaded.
He wouldnt die, chain jail oath is based in a judgment chain in kurapikas heart, the ability probably wont work strong enough
If he is bound by the same restrictions, then shouldn’t that include things like resolve? Kirapika’s willingness to put his life on the line to use chain jail comes from an incredibly personal origin. If Chrollo stole it, I’d imagine intentionally recruiting troupe members to kill them would have consequences.
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3:17 That’s actually a pretty crazy idea and I could see him being able to bend the rules to pull that off if he wanted (letting someone into the PT just to use the ability on him).
And since we don’t know how Scarlet Time activates Emperor Time, it could be as simple as Chrollo getting a pair of scarlet eyes from a collection or something before using the ability…
A video pointing out how Chrollo is close to setting himself up for stealing Hisoka's uprgaded Bungee-Gum would be cool to see your thoughts on it
Chrollo will only be able to steal kurapika's conjurer ability. His specialist abiliy is because of his scalet eyes, chrollo can steal kurapika's scarlet eyes and then put it on him
He’s tryna steal the nen of the Succession War priest, mummy
I just realized that Illumi could use the same strategy chrollo used to beat hisoka
Assuming Knuckle's APR (which is an awesome ability) worked and put Youpi in a zetsu state, how do you think the fight would go? I personally still think that they wouldn't be able to beat him. Kite fought Pitou, who also didn't know how to use nen and we know how that ended
Hello man, big fan here. I had a JJK question really quick, so Kenjaku can use CTR but he is essentially a cursed spirit, right? How does that work? I'd really appriciate it if you answered my question. Have good day, keep up the great work!
@EmirHamzaCelik Kenny’s a sorcerer not a cursed spirit, his technique just lets him body hop
What's stopping you from actually just recreating the ability that he stole? It's not like he steals your memory or experience of making the ability.
And let's go ahead and say that the ability you make HAS to be different from the stolen one. What then qualifies as "different"? Let's say I have the ability to conjure cans of Coca-Cola, which Chrollo steals. Can I then craft the ability to conjure cans of Pepsi? It's effectively the same ability, but it is TECHNICALLY different. Would I be able to?
You would be able to, 100%. Chrollo steals the specific hatsu only, not your conjuration power itself. But here's the thing..most nen users spend their lifetime perfecting only a hatsu. So having it stolen it's extremely bad bcs you have to start from zero and spend years on top of the years to rebuild another one.
I imagine it's dependent on complexity. So a simple hatsu like rock would likely be fairly easy to replace, but a complex one tied to the user's worldview like the sun and moon palm hatsu probably couldn't be recreated. I also wouldn't be surprised if your own mentality regarding the loss determined whether you could remake it. If, for example, a person saw the theft as a deeply personal loss, they'd be unlikely to be able to make the same/close enough hatsu.
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Would kuroro die if he used chain jail on kurapika?
Kurapika might
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