REAL TALK... Jensen could walk out Ed Gein status and as long as he holds up a new FE, people won't give af. No hyperbole, I believe he could literally walk out in human skin and nobody would give a shit and still sell out whatever he's selling.
for any product 10% failer is considered high if were 2-4% then would be normal and with people would buy that expansive of a product I can imagine they just buy a new one and not even try to rma the old one leaving less reported cards for the record.
@@goldenhate6649 I think the reported number is actually much higher % if we only count the 5090's in use. Because most of the 5090's right now are just sitting in stock from scalpers buying them up. So the amount sold is already small, but the amount in use is even smaller. The few cards that actually got sold to actual users are getting bricked.
in my country the 5080 is in stock no problems because after all the import taxes and stores needing to make money its 2k euros so we get scalper prices without scalpers
When you can buy a decent used car for the 5090 price in some countries, and a brand new small engine motorcycle for the 5080 price, it makes sense the GPUs sits on the shelves.
Debating if I should keep mine got one from bestbuy $719 and return ends the 19th day before the 5070ti according to a Bestbuy employee yesterday we might get a better chance at the 5070ti what you think return it and hope I get one the next day or keep it lol
If rumors are to be believed, aibs for the 5090/5080 had only a few weeks to make the product and days to validate them with the final driver. Which is, frankly speaking, insane.
@@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 I doubt they’ll stop production on 4000 series in a few months. You can’t even buy a 4090 at msrp. They already have the tooling set up for production, they’ll keep selling. I’d give it a year.
@@SimonSez-gbro no need to upgrade then like unless you're doing very heavy workloads a 4080 is almost overkill for any type of tasks and the 5080 is only like a 10-15% increase. Maybe you should upgrade when the 60 series come.
I got a 7900 XTX last year for about $900 and I’m loving it. I know I probably sound like a Team Red shill but I’m feel like I’m doing my part in encouraging competition in the graphics space by choosing to support Nvidia’s main competitor
Me too! The XTX has been serving me well and it's the first non-NVIDIA GPU I've used since 2003 when my dad had the 9800 pro. AMD has had plenty of opportunities to take advantage of the market but they just aren't doing enough to sway it out of team green's favor.
IDK man. I had the same mindset since 2009. Started with Radeon HD4850 then the R9270X to RX580 to 5700XT. AMD hasnt gained any market share. All were great Cards though. If AMD had AI upscaling alone in RX6000 and RX 7000 series, it might've had a much better chance. Hopefully 9070XT does better in sales since Nvidia is releasing DOA 5070 with 12GB VRAM.
Honestly, shilling a company that only has 30% market share in the GPU space is not a highly estemeed or high paying job. NVIDIA shills are a dime a dozen. AMD GPUs are just better value, drivers are working a lot better and for 4080 performance, a 7900 XTX is absolutely worth it. You actually get what you pay for, instead of getting scalper prices for every card between a 4070 to 5090.
I think, now this pure speculation on my part, the reason we're not hearing more about 5090s dying is because majority of them are still in the hands of scalpers. This was effectively just a paper launch with stock shortages to cover up this issue so Nvidia can give themselves time to find a solution.
@@delightment5687 I run cyberpunk on max settings with medium rt and I get about 50-60, but I lock it at 50 and is pretty smooth. No OC at 1080p I love it. I don’t use rt much but it’s the only game I do use it on.
7900XTX here, its honestly much better than the all the launch day reviews make it look. Its gained about 24%, the extra V - Ram is honestly way better to have rather than the extra RT performance. Drivers and Stability have honestly been awesome, on par with my Radeon VII, which was great too due to being build on GCN.
I got a nitro vapor+ 24gb and i domt think i wiuogrpgrade for 5+ years easily. I dont play any new games, and if i do i pirate them and realize they are recycled trash and stop playing 😭💀@mercurybird9711
0:45 So, we've come full circle with the Radeon Rx 9000. It was about 21 years ago the Radeon 9000 series was released. Time is a flat circle. But that was when the video card company was still ATI before AMD gobbled them up. I remember well. I had one. I played Half Life 2 on it and many many other games like GTA San Andreas. It was a good video card. Come to think of it, the Rx 9000 came with a free Half Life 2 Steam Key with the purchase.
Hell I remember that fairly well. Team Green went out with the 5000 series, and the blower style dual-slot with the 5800...those suckers didn't fully support D3D9, had stupid SM2.0 performance (mandatory with Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault) and heavy driver-side "optimizations" for speed. If ATi only fixed their driver problems it would have been perfect...PS1 emulation with OpenGL was buggy on ATi. Funny you mentioned GTA San Andreas, when in launch it greets you with "the way it's meant to be played" lmao
Its amazing how 3 different companies have failed spectacularly at the same time with their GPUs. With the GPUs either being a paper launch, not even officially launching at all, or just having really bad driver overhead. Billion dollar companies falling flat on their faces. What a time to be alive.
As a consequence to get more juice out of these cards they up the complexity and it's all just too much to reliably maintain. May explain why companies like Intel & AMD are having such a hard time catching up to Nvidia. I'm most likely wrong but that's my perspective on it.
What you're seeing is GPU tech reaching it's Zenith. That also explains all this fake AI performance. It's because they literally can't make them any faster because of the laws of physics.
@@davidfaustino4476brudda you're straight up spreading misinformation 😭 No, fake frames is developed cause (1) it has actual beneficial uses. (2) That's literally it. It was only when Nvidia realised how dumb the consumers are that they'd believe apple-esque relative performance graphs with no critical thinking lol
Honestly, my 3080 is still decent at 4K, but I really wanna try path tracing and stuff. So when I upgrade, that’s gonna be the driving force. Just unfortunate that AMD gpus suck ass at ray tracing
@@ImShelly. a 5080 would be a huge upgrade, just wait a couple of months till prices go back to normal, or if the 5070ti has good stock, that's what im going for ( upgrading from a 1070 )
Got the 7900 XTX with a year warranty from Microcenter. It works well but it does have artifacts that randomly pop on the screen when nothing is even moving on the screen at times. Unintentional, but should be able to warranty it later, get store credit and move that money over to a 5090 later this year when hopefully they are more in stock.
I finally switched to an AMD GPU (ASUS RX 7800 XT 16GB) on my last build about a year ago & it has been fine. It is paired with a Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T 65W CPU since this is both a productivity build & 1440p gaming build, & I wanted to build both a quieter & cooler running fan-cooled desktop (with 120FPS capped rate). No complaints here with my choices. Works as intended & provides the quality results I was shooting for.
Ended up getting a 5090 FE from best buy on launch day. Built a new pc and it has a driver issue with booting on multimonitor setups lol. The gpu clock will get stuck in an idle state when booting with more than one monitor.
Here I am with my 4080S tuf with my full upgraded am4 machine I upgraded it all last year except MOBO and here I am enjoying everything at 4k sucks for those who are completely new but remember to buy when you see the deal you like don’t fall for FOMO so many chewed me out for not waiting. I got my 4080S for 960$ 5700x3D 150$ at the time everything was way lower then what it is now! And it sadly no telling if that changing
Good thing that they didn't stop production of their previous generations or alienate everyone during this release! I'd like to get the 5090 versions the influencers are getting because those certainly aren't bricking. I got a 5090 in my cart on release date in my region's official supplier. Paid for it, except that when I was about to see the confirmation that it was payed and was going to be sent, a "technical problem" page popped up and they left the payment processor hanging meaning I still haven't gotten my money back. I am not getting a 5090, or a 6090, or a 7090, AMD and Intel are my new go-tos for cards. Relying on NVIDIA is too dystopian.
Ly LG CX OLED TV was hands down the best upgrade I have done for gaming at our house.....the image quality is insane and it's packed with features PC gamers crave.
Lucky for me I bought a 2nd hand RX 6800 (Ex-mining card) back in July 2023...still in my system and STILL going strong...once this dies or the motherboard dies....I'll be downsizing to a MINI PC or use my ALLY X as a MINI PC...just need to upgrade the storage to 4TB and upgrade the SD card to 2tb. *This is my current setup* Motherboard: MSI MAG X570S TORPEDO MAX CPU: 5800X3D GPU: AsRock Challenger Pro RX 6800 RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws (2x16gb) 32Gb 3600mhz Storage: 2x 2tb Samsung 980 Pro Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO RGB 360mm Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (replaced with Silent wings 3 fans 120mm x 3 as exhaust) Case: BeQuiet Silent Base 802 PSU: Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Semi-Modular Power Supply Fans: 2 140mm Silent wings 2 at the front for intake, and 1 120mm silent wings 2 as rear exhaust
WILD seeing the "steam console" image when one of those is already under my tv. It's a picture of a Steam Link. It uses YOUR hardware and pipes the input/output over your network/LAN and you can play games in a different room. It's actually very nice! They were discontinued in 2018 but if you can find one nearby, I'd say go for it. I got a hand-me-down one and it's how my roommate and I play games with each other
MSI just raised their prices on 50 series GPU's over $200, and now Newegg started releasing bundles to take advantage of the scalping for a measily $5000+.
I was suspicious of the 5090 with the reveal of the use of liquid metal. Although I don't think that is the source of the cards dying, it did indicate to me that they are trying to boost reconfigured Ada Lovelace architecture with more voltage and cooling with their Blackwell, which was not a good sign to me. Imagine spending two thousand dollars on a card like that only for it to die within a month, or worse getting it at an inflated price from some dipshit scalper who probably didn't treat his stock with any care. When I saw that liquid metal, my exact thoughts were "Oh no, this is something everyone is going to think is good but they won't understand what it implies..."
Pro tip: only upgrade once the super series comes out a year later! Super happy with my 4070ti super. Paid $780 for my gpu and $518 for my 240hz 1440p oled monitor 🙏🏽
DeBauer dropped a video last week about how the 5090s and 5080s were rushed into production, specially for partners. I highly recommend ppl watch it. He says that in some cases AIBs were afforded just a few weeks/ even days to test and assemble their products arounud nVidias new chips. He also said that could have been the reason MSI delayed its 5000s launch. It appears consumers have become paying product testers for nVidia. Im sure AMD would do the same if given the opportunity. There are no nice guys in this story.
Totally believeable. Maybe they wanted to build up stock before Trump's tariffs hit, even though I know companies have no problem passing the price of the tariffs off on the costumer. Tech prices about to get real high... Yay.
Given the abysmal launch and performance uplift in the 5080 reviews, I can only imagine the launch of the 5060 and 5060Ti... how out of touch can you be as a company if you are even considering launching an 8GB gpu in 2025... and looking at the price stackup, the 5060ti will be 450 and the 5060 will be 300$ or so... absolutely no one should be spending 300$ on an 8GB gpu in 2025. Those things are obsolete at launch.
My wife and I both ended up getting the exact 5080 we wanted in a Newegg bundle drop, we are still waiting for shipment but at least we were lucky enough to get the order placed. We have full system builds waiting will both have 9950x + MSI Vanguard 5080. We got the launch editions so hoping on the astronaut lucky variant
QD-OLED, 49" dual 1440p panel with higher pixel density than normal 1440p literally looks better than an affordable 4K screen. Also, 7900XTX for life ... because we won't get a meaningful upgrade in this lifetime
I'm guessing the 5060 TI will have the eight more gigabytes to make it 16 GB and will cost 200 bucks more for 50 more dollars of VRAM. Damn they are scamming us left and right with these video cards.
It's the consumer's own fault. I get that Nvidia has no competition in the 80 and 90 class. I even get that the 70 class card selling well. What I'll never get is a 50 or even a 60 class card outselling anything Intel and AMD have to offer. What I mean is that Nvidia sees this and they'll think they can release any turd and the suckers will still buy it. 🤷♂️
HUB already warned Nvidia about 8GB cards wasn't going cut it anymore, the RTX 5060 is already DOA, Intel listen to HUB's feedback it both areas of vram and pricing.
Got a 4090 for $995 from my friend who bought a 5090. He then got a lengthy email from the store saying they actually didn't have enough 5090 stock and gave him his money back.
All this noise about the paper launch of the 5080 & 5090, but most regular people want to know when the 5060 & 5070 ranges are coming and - more importantly - how they shape up
My last Nvidia GPU was the Zotac 770 in July of 2014. Even if I wanted a new GPU, it would only be available by mail order because there is no computer store within 5 hours' drive time. When that 770 died in May of 2022 I bought a Gigabyte RX 6700 XT Eagle. That last card lasted almost 8 years so if this 6700 lasts a good amount of time I won't see a new system to 2030.
Got my 5080 day one after standing in line a 2am at my microcenter. Definitely would have preferred a 5090 but, this is good enough for my editing rig for now. Coming from a 5950x with a 3080ti.
I was lucky enough to get the 5080 FE for MSRP. Despite a severe issue while testing out Cyberpunk, I've had a great experience. Thankfully it's resolved after some tinkering.
I got a 5080 while trying to get a 5090, despite showing up almost 12 hours in advance I was pretty close to the voucher cutoff for the Tustin line. I'm holding out on putting it in my system in case I can get a 5090 before the end of the month, in which case I'll either return it or flip it.
im trying to build a custom water cooled pc rn and there are just no parts anywhere, on FB market place had a guy agree then cancel on a $2100 rtx 4090, then paid $2600 for a different 4090, silicone yeilds are just ibysmal, and Amd, Intel, Nvidia, are selling their whole supply to big companies directly and completly forgetting the consumer
I am glad to grab one of the last 4070 ti supers on Amazon in December. I use it for 3D rendering / design, so I don't need any of the AI stuff. I had a Titan X before that, so I don't have much FOMO on the 50 series. I DO hope everyone gets the one they want, and are happy with them.
I snagged a msi 5080 suprim soc that came with msi's 4k 240hz monitor. Im currently away on deploment but excited to go back home and put my new pc together.
Finally upgraded to the Alienware 1440p curved 34 inch Oled and it is awesome. And going from 60 fps to 165 fps for my rtx 3080 is godsend. I'll probably upgrade when the rtx 6000 series comes out, but most definitely a year after that.
Controversial opinion, I don’t feel the difference between ips and oled. It’s one of those things that are so unanimously agreed upon that’s just so mind blowingly amazing that you’ll never be able to go back ever. So I listened and got a super nice 42 inch 4k 138hz oled monitor. But even looking side to side with my high quality 4k ips monitor, the only difference was that the blacks were slightly darker and the screen was way bigger. Idk why I don’t get mind blown, but I really wish I could have gotten that real improvement that everyone else is getting
Afaik many if not all big "OLED" Screens are not true OLED, like the mobile ones. They are IPS screens with OLED backlighting. That means deeper blacks and better colour spectrum, but not the night and day difference of a true OLED. Buge difference can also be achieved by Glossy vs Matte. Glossy is very impressive, if light reflexions are kept low.
I got a 7900xt in November for $620 and it's great but I so so wish I had just spent the $1000 to get the XTX two years ago. I would have gotten so much more mileage out of it!
you can find the 7900 xtx for around $800 pretty easily just have to shop around have had mine for over a year now paid about $1017 total after tax been a great card hasn't had any issues running many different games
i have the 7900xtx got it for 750$ off fb market place cause they got a 4090 and i love it 150-160 fps most games at ultra settings ofc mines overclocked i play over 330 games my only problem is the low fps running some of modded Minecraft modpack's with shaders and a few Nvidia games including Fortnite you have to switch between different amd drivers to run fluently. also if anyone has issues while in game blue screen or crashing within the game being opened for less then 10 mins go to the amd software and make sure the gpu isn't default overclocked mine kept defaulting to 3212 mghz after every pc restart/crash and when i lowered the speed back down to 2800 mghz i never had any issues in any games like Fortnite and bo6 crashing every 2-10 mins with a driver timeout.
I managed to get an Asus Prime 5080 OC at Newegg. After I completed the transaction all the 5080's were sold out. The 5090's were sold out immediately.
Latest nvidia driver is dodgy. Even my 3080ti as soon as the pc restarted black screen. 5 restarts later then it works. Reverted back to the old driver
Last few have been. Had some nvidia shill argue with me ZERO driver issues for all of Nvidia cards forever 😂😭😅 stg nvidia pays bots to just talk on the internet.
This is happening to my 4090. It will black screen upon screen wake on the new driver. I've been troubleshooting since the driver dropped. Can't find a fix other than to roll back. Could not agree more about OLED. Best gaming upgrade I ever made. Hands down.
Agreed 100% on upgrading to OLED. Massive difference. The only problem is now I really want an OLED TV. And laptop. And everywhere else.... My laptop in particular looks like a smeary mess.
When NVidia DROPPED PNY, I KNEW they weren't good anymore! Edit: Nevermind... Nvidia Dropped A supplier because that supplier wouldn't cut corners, but I forgot who so...
I ended up buying a whole new system from a 10850k & 3070 to a 9800x3d & 5080 Should be delivered in a couple days. I'm beyond excited to experience this new system overhaul!
The thing about AI is that it should make things cheaper as AI is doing the “job” for you. NVIDIA adding AI in processing of frames aka “fake frames” should decrease its price, not increase it.
The 5090 FE that I managed to get in the Best Buy app tapping around for 58 minutes at launch wasn’t detected in Windows until I ADDED a riser and downgraded GPU drivers. Even with forcing Gen 4 in the BIOS, there was no video output in Windows on my ASUS TUF B650M-PLUS WIFI. Could it have been seated incorrectly? Maybe, or maybe it genuinely was the riser somehow? No idea, that’s the only thing I changed immediately before it started working-I’m just glad it’s working now!
Is there a good 40" plus OLED monitor? I am in Construction and view Blueprints all day so I need the large screen with high resolution AND it needs to display text well. A lot of the old 4K TV's were terrible at displaying text.
If these tariffs hit in the USA is going to get even more expensive and not worth it to build a PC.. if you think graphics cards are stupid expensive now. NewEgg dropped a tweet today for more cards in stock and people were already like why TF are they even more expesnive. The one word reply from Newegg was "tariffs"
They keyword is RISER i think. Power adapters also causing issues with voltage drop regardless of watt rating. If it has 10 million watts but voltage drops down to 11.5 or less, all those watts re just marketing scam.
My 4070 TI Super has been incredibly stable. I was really worried when both times I tried to install the 572.16 drivers, my monitor went black and the computer appears to have completely hung. Both times I was able to power-slam it and recover, but they really screwed the pooch on these drivers...
Where are these $800 xtx? I paid 860 for mine a little over a week ago, I need a 4k graphics card for my new build and it’s the only one I could find for under 1100. I’m not waiting up to another couple months for stock to possibly come back. I’ll buy a 5090 next holiday season
5090- managed to order stock on immediate launch. But still saying weeks away. 9800x3d- still waiting since early Dec. All my other parts ready to go... Ram is expo and Mobo is am5 so I can't exactly alternate to the 285k either... Really sucks because I don't have anything to use meanwhile bar some old 5th gen intel system.
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what's the name of the chair you're using
Prices are wild
I’d take that PC good sir.
Or just a good GPU you have just laying around….
@@MrJosh7902 Agreed
The lowest 7900xtx ive seen is 900€ and one that looks a bit nicer is 20€ more (with tax)
Imagine paying $5000 to a scalper, bricking your RTX 5090, and not having warranty because you bought from a scalper.
right, it voids the warranty too, it is a big scam and should be illegal, scalping should be illegal, but they simply do not care.
Nvidia could easily make a public statement and say you have NO WARRANTY if you do not buy the cards from an official retailer.
Price scalping is stupid and should be illegal
No sympathy for scalpers who the people who capitulate to them.
@@neferpoyaz4037 well the current US admin definitely aren't going to do anything about this lol
GPU prices won't come down until Jenson is wearing a human skin jacket.
REAL TALK... Jensen could walk out Ed Gein status and as long as he holds up a new FE, people won't give af. No hyperbole, I believe he could literally walk out in human skin and nobody would give a shit and still sell out whatever he's selling.
How do you know it's not human skin?
If he is a lizard man like Zuck, he is already wearing one 😂
I’m curious what correlation you’re looking at there.
so he'll just be naked?
"Only a couple instances" of 5090 failure. So that's like, a 10% failure rate?
rmb the 4090 cable melting? ya only a couple xd
A couple? That’s probably 40-50%.
Comment of the day ... :)
for any product 10% failer is considered high if were 2-4% then would be normal and with people would buy that expansive of a product I can imagine they just buy a new one and not even try to rma the old one leaving less reported cards for the record.
Dude it's been only few weeks since lunch there will be more
Theres limited reports, because theres only limited 5090s out there....
So the failed might be the only one that made it into a gaming PC so far? 😂
@@jochenkraus7016 theres more than one, jay2c's is behaving strangely as well
@@jochenkraus7016 probably the ones that made it to workstations that actually fully tax the gpu
@@goldenhate6649 I think the reported number is actually much higher % if we only count the 5090's in use.
Because most of the 5090's right now are just sitting in stock from scalpers buying them up.
So the amount sold is already small, but the amount in use is even smaller.
The few cards that actually got sold to actual users are getting bricked.
@@goldenhate6649 Jayz two centz is having issues and hes gaming
in my country the 5080 is in stock no problems because after all the import taxes and stores needing to make money its 2k euros so we get scalper prices without scalpers
Maybe people should start viewing these as ‘paper launch prices’ and not ‘scalper prices’.
at least you get a warrantee for when it shits its self
When you can buy a decent used car for the 5090 price in some countries, and a brand new small engine motorcycle for the 5080 price, it makes sense the GPUs sits on the shelves.
That's nowhere near scalper prices
That's 2083 usd
My friend just built a PC for the first time, and in this environment I recommended the 7900xt. He snagged one new for $650.
Debating if I should keep mine got one from bestbuy $719 and return ends the 19th day before the 5070ti according to a Bestbuy employee yesterday we might get a better chance at the 5070ti what you think return it and hope I get one the next day or keep it lol
If they go out of stock, CHECK FOR SCALPER PRICING, IMMEDIATELY EBAY, BUY A 9070 BEFORE IT GETS SCALPED.
That's a real sick deal, those cards go for $1100+ here.
@TheTwoTwoForReal it’s the 7900xt 20gb not the 7900xtx 24gb got it for basically retail
@TheTwoTwoForRealregular XT it’s like a 4070 super
If rumors are to be believed, aibs for the 5090/5080 had only a few weeks to make the product and days to validate them with the final driver. Which is, frankly speaking, insane.
what does aib mean?
@@miraak9521I think they’re partners like Asus or Msi.
Considering Nvidia is doing the most to push AIBs out of the market, yeah not surprised.
Goes to show that even the richest company in the world will ignore its engineers and haze its ground level employees. Disgusting.
thats why i always wait a few months, no rush
@@BB-kg2bd so they can restock more gpus... Once they decided to stop making 4000 series.
You monster! Think of the scalpers! 😭
@bgtubber to be honest I'm pretty happy with my 4080
@@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 I doubt they’ll stop production on 4000 series in a few months. You can’t even buy a 4090 at msrp. They already have the tooling set up for production, they’ll keep selling. I’d give it a year.
@@SimonSez-gbro no need to upgrade then like unless you're doing very heavy workloads a 4080 is almost overkill for any type of tasks and the 5080 is only like a 10-15% increase. Maybe you should upgrade when the 60 series come.
It makes sense the 5090 might have issue since they were all made 2 days before arriving in stores seemingly.
I got a 7900 XTX last year for about $900 and I’m loving it. I know I probably sound like a Team Red shill but I’m feel like I’m doing my part in encouraging competition in the graphics space by choosing to support Nvidia’s main competitor
I agree we need more competion from Amd or Intel, Nvidia too greedy
Me too! The XTX has been serving me well and it's the first non-NVIDIA GPU I've used since 2003 when my dad had the 9800 pro. AMD has had plenty of opportunities to take advantage of the market but they just aren't doing enough to sway it out of team green's favor.
IDK man. I had the same mindset since 2009. Started with Radeon HD4850 then the R9270X to RX580 to 5700XT. AMD hasnt gained any market share. All were great Cards though. If AMD had AI upscaling alone in RX6000 and RX 7000 series, it might've had a much better chance.
Hopefully 9070XT does better in sales since Nvidia is releasing DOA 5070 with 12GB VRAM.
@@darkstalker3507 Ngreedia
Honestly, shilling a company that only has 30% market share in the GPU space is not a highly estemeed or high paying job. NVIDIA shills are a dime a dozen. AMD GPUs are just better value, drivers are working a lot better and for 4080 performance, a 7900 XTX is absolutely worth it. You actually get what you pay for, instead of getting scalper prices for every card between a 4070 to 5090.
I think, now this pure speculation on my part, the reason we're not hearing more about 5090s dying is because majority of them are still in the hands of scalpers. This was effectively just a paper launch with stock shortages to cover up this issue so Nvidia can give themselves time to find a solution.
7900 XT here and it’s the best gpu I’ve ever used
How’s the ray tracing? Is it as bad as people say?
@@delightment5687 I run cyberpunk on max settings with medium rt and I get about 50-60, but I lock it at 50 and is pretty smooth. No OC at 1080p I love it. I don’t use rt much but it’s the only game I do use it on.
Hell Yeah, I have it paired with a 5800x3d.
i am on 7800xt, i concur this, with the game and work i do
7900XTX here, its honestly much better than the all the launch day reviews make it look. Its gained about 24%, the extra V - Ram is honestly way better to have rather than the extra RT performance. Drivers and Stability have honestly been awesome, on par with my Radeon VII, which was great too due to being build on GCN.
The era of not buying the newest gen has officially begun.
Yep, just bought a 7900xtx yesterday. Best value and performance for my use case!
I mean that has always been the case. Early adopters usually have more problems.
Companies don’t care about scalpers they still get their money lol
No
I got a nitro vapor+ 24gb and i domt think i wiuogrpgrade for 5+ years easily. I dont play any new games, and if i do i pirate them and realize they are recycled trash and stop playing 😭💀@mercurybird9711
Upgraded from 1060 laptop to 5080 desktop with an OLED monitor and 9800x3d. The difference is…noticeable.
1080 and coffee lake i7 upgrading to 5080 and 9800x3d here
it saddens me that such a big jump only gets a "noticeable"
graphics really peaked long long ago
@@NawyLoebwell his eyes but be crap my 2060S to 4080S was such an night and day difference… and I’m still on am4….
@@NawyLoeb its about smoothness and high frames and epic refresh. this is really a game changer in FPS games
@@NawyLoeb i think he was saying the difference is massive, because the difference between 1060 and 5080 is legit like +200% performance
That saying, don't get all worked up over your 5090 dieing it's only a 2500 to 3000 dollar card lmao 🤣
Uhhh wdym it's only 2500 usd 😭
This has to be a joke right?
@@srinivaschilakala216 yeah its like only 4000usd at this point :trollface:
Don't forget that there are only a handful of 5090s out in the wild, so even if it's just a few faulty ones, the percentage rate is worringly high! 🤣
0:45 So, we've come full circle with the Radeon Rx 9000. It was about 21 years ago the Radeon 9000 series was released. Time is a flat circle. But that was when the video card company was still ATI before AMD gobbled them up. I remember well. I had one. I played Half Life 2 on it and many many other games like GTA San Andreas. It was a good video card. Come to think of it, the Rx 9000 came with a free Half Life 2 Steam Key with the purchase.
9800 pro was a brilliant card
9700 Pro flashed to 9800, what a card.
@@3DJLab haha yep duel bios cards for that business later on 👌
Hell I remember that fairly well. Team Green went out with the 5000 series, and the blower style dual-slot with the 5800...those suckers didn't fully support D3D9, had stupid SM2.0 performance (mandatory with Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault) and heavy driver-side "optimizations" for speed. If ATi only fixed their driver problems it would have been perfect...PS1 emulation with OpenGL was buggy on ATi.
Funny you mentioned GTA San Andreas, when in launch it greets you with "the way it's meant to be played" lmao
@ I remember those splash screens. EAX ones too.
"It only happened to one of our cards". That's like 10% of all people with 5090s.
@0:20 5090 PC giveaway.... Previously in the video 5090's are bricking 🤔 would this be a good prize? #NVIDIA ? 😐
Stock of 5090 finished quicker than me on bed. 💀
Newegg announced 20 minutes... Don't lie to us bro
I don't want to see your bed...
Still slower than me on bed
Its amazing how 3 different companies have failed spectacularly at the same time with their GPUs. With the GPUs either being a paper launch, not even officially launching at all, or just having really bad driver overhead. Billion dollar companies falling flat on their faces. What a time to be alive.
As a consequence to get more juice out of these cards they up the complexity and it's all just too much to reliably maintain. May explain why companies like Intel & AMD are having such a hard time catching up to Nvidia. I'm most likely wrong but that's my perspective on it.
What you're seeing is GPU tech reaching it's Zenith. That also explains all this fake AI performance. It's because they literally can't make them any faster because of the laws of physics.
@@davidfaustino4476brudda you're straight up spreading misinformation 😭
No, fake frames is developed cause (1) it has actual beneficial uses. (2) That's literally it.
It was only when Nvidia realised how dumb the consumers are that they'd believe apple-esque relative performance graphs with no critical thinking lol
That’s due to DEI being implemented, and if you don’t like the results of their incompetence, you’re a ‘bigot’. 🤷
Nvidia is no longer a gaming GPU company. They've fully moved on to AI and don't care about you.
They never cared about you rather... even before the AI slop took over the industry.
I'm still feeling the best option for a new GPU is the 7900 XTX 24GB for under a grand (as soon as stock arrives)
I've heard they're not manufacturing 7900 xtx anymore
@corvustech7901 I hope not, really based my new system around Ryzen 9 & the top tier AMD GPU, the 24gb 7900xtx. More vram than Nvidia 5080?
Honestly, my 3080 is still decent at 4K, but I really wanna try path tracing and stuff. So when I upgrade, that’s gonna be the driving force. Just unfortunate that AMD gpus suck ass at ray tracing
The 7900 XTX is sold out except for one model at $1,299.00 at Newegg.
@@ImShelly. a 5080 would be a huge upgrade, just wait a couple of months till prices go back to normal, or if the 5070ti has good stock, that's what im going for ( upgrading from a 1070 )
Sure Oled is great but still even going to an current gen good IPS monitor is great too
Got the 7900 XTX with a year warranty from Microcenter. It works well but it does have artifacts that randomly pop on the screen when nothing is even moving on the screen at times. Unintentional, but should be able to warranty it later, get store credit and move that money over to a 5090 later this year when hopefully they are more in stock.
My B570 is getting the job done. No complaints. Definitely not buying a high-end GPU any time soon.
I finally switched to an AMD GPU (ASUS RX 7800 XT 16GB) on my last build about a year ago & it has been fine. It is paired with a Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T 65W CPU since this is both a productivity build & 1440p gaming build, & I wanted to build both a quieter & cooler running fan-cooled desktop (with 120FPS capped rate). No complaints here with my choices. Works as intended & provides the quality results I was shooting for.
Ended up getting a 5090 FE from best buy on launch day. Built a new pc and it has a driver issue with booting on multimonitor setups lol. The gpu clock will get stuck in an idle state when booting with more than one monitor.
Jayz2cents had an issue with a 5090 getting stuck at 950MHz
Atleast you have warranty
Here I am with my 4080S tuf with my full upgraded am4 machine I upgraded it all last year except MOBO and here I am enjoying everything at 4k sucks for those who are completely new but remember to buy when you see the deal you like don’t fall for FOMO so many chewed me out for not waiting. I got my 4080S for 960$ 5700x3D 150$ at the time everything was way lower then what it is now! And it sadly no telling if that changing
I'm still rocking a i7 gen 12 with 64GB DDR4 and a 4090. *waiting patiently for the chewing out* 😂
I'm running a 3080 and 5700x3d and genuinely don't think I'll want to upgrade for years
5800x3d+4070ti super+1440p 240hz oled=❤️
Good thing that they didn't stop production of their previous generations or alienate everyone during this release! I'd like to get the 5090 versions the influencers are getting because those certainly aren't bricking.
I got a 5090 in my cart on release date in my region's official supplier. Paid for it, except that when I was about to see the confirmation that it was payed and was going to be sent, a "technical problem" page popped up and they left the payment processor hanging meaning I still haven't gotten my money back. I am not getting a 5090, or a 6090, or a 7090, AMD and Intel are my new go-tos for cards. Relying on NVIDIA is too dystopian.
They stopped 4000 production
@@pw5232It's sarcasm dude.
600 watt in tiny pcb are never safe
Ly LG CX OLED TV was hands down the best upgrade I have done for gaming at our house.....the image quality is insane and it's packed with features PC gamers crave.
same for my c1, looking to get c4 for 144hz with a new 5080 whenever that happens.
@jergernice1 I am fine with the 120hz of my cx. I honestly think any lg cx and newer is hands down the best upgrade anyone could do.
Nvidia deserves this.
Yep, on top of the billions they lost because of DeepSeek.
Working or not the 5090 is a $2000 brick to me.
A clean/simple looking brick 😂
Lucky for me I bought a 2nd hand RX 6800 (Ex-mining card) back in July 2023...still in my system and STILL going strong...once this dies or the motherboard dies....I'll be downsizing to a MINI PC or use my ALLY X as a MINI PC...just need to upgrade the storage to 4TB and upgrade the SD card to 2tb.
*This is my current setup*
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570S TORPEDO MAX
CPU: 5800X3D
GPU: AsRock Challenger Pro RX 6800
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws (2x16gb) 32Gb 3600mhz
Storage: 2x 2tb Samsung 980 Pro
Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO RGB 360mm Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (replaced with Silent wings 3 fans 120mm x 3 as exhaust)
Case: BeQuiet Silent Base 802
PSU: Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Semi-Modular Power Supply
Fans: 2 140mm Silent wings 2 at the front for intake, and 1 120mm silent wings 2 as rear exhaust
WILD seeing the "steam console" image when one of those is already under my tv. It's a picture of a Steam Link. It uses YOUR hardware and pipes the input/output over your network/LAN and you can play games in a different room. It's actually very nice! They were discontinued in 2018 but if you can find one nearby, I'd say go for it. I got a hand-me-down one and it's how my roommate and I play games with each other
MSI just raised their prices on 50 series GPU's over $200, and now Newegg started releasing bundles to take advantage of the scalping for a measily $5000+.
Well, paper release is actually flammable 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I was suspicious of the 5090 with the reveal of the use of liquid metal. Although I don't think that is the source of the cards dying, it did indicate to me that they are trying to boost reconfigured Ada Lovelace architecture with more voltage and cooling with their Blackwell, which was not a good sign to me. Imagine spending two thousand dollars on a card like that only for it to die within a month, or worse getting it at an inflated price from some dipshit scalper who probably didn't treat his stock with any care.
When I saw that liquid metal, my exact thoughts were "Oh no, this is something everyone is going to think is good but they won't understand what it implies..."
Would you mind explaining what’s bad with Liquid Metal? I’ve only heard people praising it and whispers of some long term issue?
2000 dollars??? lol. Try 3000.
Did you hear the story about Nintendo sueing a Supermarket named "Super Mario"? They (thankfully) ended up losing the case though.
Lol
So insanely stupid, I HATE nintendo with a passion
@@lnfinyx apparently the store was already around for like 40 years and the owners name is Mario.
Pro tip: only upgrade once the super series comes out a year later! Super happy with my 4070ti super. Paid $780 for my gpu and $518 for my 240hz 1440p oled monitor 🙏🏽
DeBauer dropped a video last week about how the 5090s and 5080s were rushed into production, specially for partners. I highly recommend ppl watch it. He says that in some cases AIBs were afforded just a few weeks/ even days to test and assemble their products arounud nVidias new chips. He also said that could have been the reason MSI delayed its 5000s launch.
It appears consumers have become paying product testers for nVidia. Im sure AMD would do the same if given the opportunity. There are no nice guys in this story.
Totally believeable. Maybe they wanted to build up stock before Trump's tariffs hit, even though I know companies have no problem passing the price of the tariffs off on the costumer. Tech prices about to get real high... Yay.
Given the abysmal launch and performance uplift in the 5080 reviews, I can only imagine the launch of the 5060 and 5060Ti... how out of touch can you be as a company if you are even considering launching an 8GB gpu in 2025... and looking at the price stackup, the 5060ti will be 450 and the 5060 will be 300$ or so... absolutely no one should be spending 300$ on an 8GB gpu in 2025. Those things are obsolete at launch.
My wife and I both ended up getting the exact 5080 we wanted in a Newegg bundle drop, we are still waiting for shipment but at least we were lucky enough to get the order placed. We have full system builds waiting will both have 9950x + MSI Vanguard 5080. We got the launch editions so hoping on the astronaut lucky variant
Holding onto my 4090. Between the scalpers' technical issues, etc. The 50 series doesn't even exist to me yet.
Lol
Plus the 5090 uses way too much power.
I think you're not going to want an upgrade for quite a while
QD-OLED, 49" dual 1440p panel with higher pixel density than normal 1440p literally looks better than an affordable 4K screen. Also, 7900XTX for life ... because we won't get a meaningful upgrade in this lifetime
MSI just increased their prices. $2700 for the air cooler suprim. I don't even know what to think, I'm just exhausted
I'm guessing the 5060 TI will have the eight more gigabytes to make it 16 GB and will cost 200 bucks more for 50 more dollars of VRAM. Damn they are scamming us left and right with these video cards.
It's the consumer's own fault. I get that Nvidia has no competition in the 80 and 90 class. I even get that the 70 class card selling well. What I'll never get is a 50 or even a 60 class card outselling anything Intel and AMD have to offer.
What I mean is that Nvidia sees this and they'll think they can release any turd and the suckers will still buy it. 🤷♂️
HUB already warned Nvidia about 8GB cards wasn't going cut it anymore, the RTX 5060 is already DOA, Intel listen to HUB's feedback it both areas of vram and pricing.
Stop buying Nvidia graphic cards
@@darkstalker3507 But the more I buy, the more I save.
@@CuteMegaPanda OEMs. The 4060 is the OEM GPU. AMD and Intel GPUs are nonexistent in OEM systems. The same with laptops.
Can't wait to hear about OLED monitors melting next
Only thing you worry about on oled is burn in. And new tech is good enough it will take a long time of still frame for it to happen.
@@_nihilus7127yeah i’ve heard that new OLEDs practically require intentional burn in for anything to actually burn lol
This is why you don't buy from scalpers so you can send it back. Helps to buy with a credit card since it has insurance for events like this also.
Craft Computing had a similar sounding problem with his review card. He had to update his BIOS because it worked fine in a second system he had.
Got a 4090 for $995 from my friend who bought a 5090. He then got a lengthy email from the store saying they actually didn't have enough 5090 stock and gave him his money back.
All this noise about the paper launch of the 5080 & 5090, but most regular people want to know when the 5060 & 5070 ranges are coming and - more importantly - how they shape up
My last Nvidia GPU was the Zotac 770 in July of 2014. Even if I wanted a new GPU, it would only be available by mail order because there is no computer store within 5 hours' drive time. When that 770 died in May of 2022 I bought a Gigabyte RX 6700 XT Eagle. That last card lasted almost 8 years so if this 6700 lasts a good amount of time I won't see a new system to 2030.
I Have a 5090, but it lives in Canada, and might visit this Summer, You guys wouldn't know just don't understand.
Got my 5080 day one after standing in line a 2am at my microcenter. Definitely would have preferred a 5090 but, this is good enough for my editing rig for now. Coming from a 5950x with a 3080ti.
Nvidia 50-series is like downloading RAM 😅
Downloading more storage
I was lucky enough to get the 5080 FE for MSRP. Despite a severe issue while testing out Cyberpunk, I've had a great experience. Thankfully it's resolved after some tinkering.
I got a 5080 while trying to get a 5090, despite showing up almost 12 hours in advance I was pretty close to the voucher cutoff for the Tustin line. I'm holding out on putting it in my system in case I can get a 5090 before the end of the month, in which case I'll either return it or flip it.
Looks like those of us with the 4090 lucked out and now we gotta wait for the 6090. 😂
im trying to build a custom water cooled pc rn and there are just no parts anywhere, on FB market place had a guy agree then cancel on a $2100 rtx 4090, then paid $2600 for a different 4090, silicone yeilds are just ibysmal, and Amd, Intel, Nvidia, are selling their whole supply to big companies directly and completly forgetting the consumer
I am glad to grab one of the last 4070 ti supers on Amazon in December. I use it for 3D rendering / design, so I don't need any of the AI stuff.
I had a Titan X before that, so I don't have much FOMO on the 50 series. I DO hope everyone gets the one they want, and are happy with them.
I snagged a msi 5080 suprim soc that came with msi's 4k 240hz monitor. Im currently away on deploment but excited to go back home and put my new pc together.
As on OG rx 550 owner (still using it since i don't play a lot of games other than roblox ) this is a W.
Finally upgraded to the Alienware 1440p curved 34 inch Oled and it is awesome.
And going from 60 fps to 165 fps for my rtx 3080 is godsend. I'll probably upgrade when the rtx 6000 series comes out, but most definitely a year after that.
3:52 Speaking of wallet friendly: If you get a 5060 msrp, your wallet lose about $350; if you get a 5090 msrp, your wallet gain $6000.
Controversial opinion, I don’t feel the difference between ips and oled. It’s one of those things that are so unanimously agreed upon that’s just so mind blowingly amazing that you’ll never be able to go back ever. So I listened and got a super nice 42 inch 4k 138hz oled monitor. But even looking side to side with my high quality 4k ips monitor, the only difference was that the blacks were slightly darker and the screen was way bigger. Idk why I don’t get mind blown, but I really wish I could have gotten that real improvement that everyone else is getting
Afaik many if not all big "OLED" Screens are not true OLED, like the mobile ones. They are IPS screens with OLED backlighting. That means deeper blacks and better colour spectrum, but not the night and day difference of a true OLED. Buge difference can also be achieved by Glossy vs Matte. Glossy is very impressive, if light reflexions are kept low.
There is a Valve console or at least a type of TV box. Its called the Fremont, and we found out about it last year.
I got a 7900xt in November for $620 and it's great but I so so wish I had just spent the $1000 to get the XTX two years ago. I would have gotten so much more mileage out of it!
When I saw the flex cable on 5090, I thought this could be a problem immediately.
you can find the 7900 xtx for around $800 pretty easily just have to shop around have had mine for over a year now paid about $1017 total after tax been a great card hasn't had any issues running many different games
Got an XT 7900 for 8500sek / abt 780 dollars which is wild because in the EU we have taxes that make a 650 dollar card cost 780 dollars
i have the 7900xtx got it for 750$ off fb market place cause they got a 4090 and i love it 150-160 fps most games at ultra settings ofc mines overclocked i play over 330 games my only problem is the low fps running some of modded Minecraft modpack's with shaders and a few Nvidia games including Fortnite you have to switch between different amd drivers to run fluently. also if anyone has issues while in game blue screen or crashing within the game being opened for less then 10 mins go to the amd software and make sure the gpu isn't default overclocked mine kept defaulting to 3212 mghz after every pc restart/crash and when i lowered the speed back down to 2800 mghz i never had any issues in any games like Fortnite and bo6 crashing every 2-10 mins with a driver timeout.
I managed to get an Asus Prime 5080 OC at Newegg. After I completed the transaction all the 5080's were sold out. The 5090's were sold out immediately.
Latest nvidia driver is dodgy. Even my 3080ti as soon as the pc restarted black screen. 5 restarts later then it works. Reverted back to the old driver
Last few have been. Had some nvidia shill argue with me ZERO driver issues for all of Nvidia cards forever 😂😭😅 stg nvidia pays bots to just talk on the internet.
Let's not forget that Nvidia is a software company, making hardware for it.
This is happening to my 4090. It will black screen upon screen wake on the new driver. I've been troubleshooting since the driver dropped. Can't find a fix other than to roll back. Could not agree more about OLED. Best gaming upgrade I ever made. Hands down.
Agreed 100% on upgrading to OLED. Massive difference. The only problem is now I really want an OLED TV. And laptop. And everywhere else.... My laptop in particular looks like a smeary mess.
When NVidia DROPPED PNY, I KNEW they weren't good anymore! Edit: Nevermind... Nvidia Dropped A supplier because that supplier wouldn't cut corners, but I forgot who so...
ive had a xtx for 900 for along time was a great purchase and its served me well these past year and a bit
It looks like Brett is taking a big number 2 on the thumbnail 😂
@@DropaBombOnM cool
I ended up buying a whole new system from a 10850k & 3070 to a 9800x3d & 5080 Should be delivered in a couple days. I'm beyond excited to experience this new system overhaul!
Oh man, my internal conspiracy theory is that Nvidia knew that the 5090s had issues and that's why there were such limited numbers everywhere.....
Om man ZSchrink
I love 7900XTX its just that i dont like AMD for OBS and Davinci, overall I really like AMD
I managed to get a 5080 Suprim. I was hoping for a 5090 but I guess this will do. Might get the 5090 when the stock levels out
The thing about AI is that it should make things cheaper as AI is doing the “job” for you.
NVIDIA adding AI in processing of frames aka “fake frames” should decrease its price, not increase it.
The 5090 FE that I managed to get in the Best Buy app tapping around for 58 minutes at launch wasn’t detected in Windows until I ADDED a riser and downgraded GPU drivers. Even with forcing Gen 4 in the BIOS, there was no video output in Windows on my ASUS TUF B650M-PLUS WIFI. Could it have been seated incorrectly? Maybe, or maybe it genuinely was the riser somehow? No idea, that’s the only thing I changed immediately before it started working-I’m just glad it’s working now!
There's some pcie 5 fuckery going on.
Is there a good 40" plus OLED monitor? I am in Construction and view Blueprints all day so I need the large screen with high resolution AND it needs to display text well. A lot of the old 4K TV's were terrible at displaying text.
If these tariffs hit in the USA is going to get even more expensive and not worth it to build a PC.. if you think graphics cards are stupid expensive now. NewEgg dropped a tweet today for more cards in stock and people were already like why TF are they even more expesnive. The one word reply from Newegg was "tariffs"
They keyword is RISER i think.
Power adapters also causing issues with voltage drop regardless of watt rating.
If it has 10 million watts but voltage drops down to 11.5 or less, all those watts re just marketing scam.
bought a 5080 on release, for 1000, arrived the next day, put it in my new build and all up and running as of 2 days ago
7900xtx value has actually gone up. Raw performance n vram... Ppl are sniffing through the Nvidia bs finally
We seen through their shit long ago, seen the golden apple in piles of shit and now we have the top tier raw performance
5090 couldn't even last 90 days without issues
My 4070 TI Super has been incredibly stable. I was really worried when both times I tried to install the 572.16 drivers, my monitor went black and the computer appears to have completely hung. Both times I was able to power-slam it and recover, but they really screwed the pooch on these drivers...
Where are these $800 xtx? I paid 860 for mine a little over a week ago, I need a 4k graphics card for my new build and it’s the only one I could find for under 1100. I’m not waiting up to another couple months for stock to possibly come back. I’ll buy a 5090 next holiday season
5090- managed to order stock on immediate launch. But still saying weeks away.
9800x3d- still waiting since early Dec.
All my other parts ready to go... Ram is expo and Mobo is am5 so I can't exactly alternate to the 285k either...
Really sucks because I don't have anything to use meanwhile bar some old 5th gen intel system.
8:15 Well... there really aren't a ton to brick either lol
Yet
told you! 570w is too much
Watch them make a 1000w
@@srinivaschilakala216there are reports of 4090 ti or 5090 ti I believe with 800watts lmfao
They re-released the 40 series with even less stock. Amazing.