That thumbnail is soo satisfying Also if only they Made an episode with Catra apologizing to all the princess for all the crime she did and Bond with them one by one then her redemption arc would've atleast be a bit better
@@bashooi yep The thing i like about Zuko redemption arc is that when he join the good side ,he didn't just get accepted right away he need to earn their trust Catra on the other hand doesn't need to do any of that all she need is Adora to tell the princess that she's on their side and bam she just got accepted immediately , which make her redemption arc seems rushed and poorly written
Valen Arts Animation See this is what I don’t get. Apparently if a guy abuses a person they’re hated by all these people, yet the same people praise the same thing if it’s a women does it. It honestly makes me sick and angry
15:09 *Catra smiles and shy enters the group.* Frosta: "AND THEN COMES A GIANT FIST!" 🤛 Adora: "Frosta wait! Catra's with us now. She's a good guy." 😯 Frosta: "Oh....😐 AND THEN COMES A GIANT-" 🤛 Adora: "FROSTA!" 😠 Frosta: "Okay! Okay! Geez!" 😒
3:43 Sigh...OK so cartoon logic I guess but... for all the characters in hood and cloak you can clearly see their head shape like Catra’s ears and Adora’s ponytail... so where is all of Entrapta’s hair now? Does it magically vanish in a hood?
Adora got to do it, Frosta got to do it.... Now we only need: Mermista Nettossa Spinnerella Glimmer And the Horde Kids to slap her. Perfuma isn't one for physical Violence, and Entrapta forgave, which while stupid, is still in character for her.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Hordak:"I remember." Kyle:"Hordak's back?" Catra:"Man, I can't believe it's good to hear your voice again, Ho..." Hordak punches Catra square in the jaw Hordak:"I'll rip your stomach out with my teeth and drill holes into your skull with my barehands!" Kyle:"Yeah that's Hordak."
And so we enter the third act of the season, to which I say: THANK. GOD! Even when She-Ra is on its final season, with a hundred plotlines awaiting conclusions, this show just meanders about unless it's to excuse Catra. And the conclusions to said plotlines are mediocre at best or inexistent at worst (who are Adora's parents if the First Ones have been extinct for what appears to be millenia? Why did Hordak's baptism not work? Why isn't anyone trying to get Angella back?) On the Glimmer front, I actually have an explanation instead of questions, for once: Stevenson has said that she doesn't enjoy princesses, even as a kid. She seems to believe in the "Princesses just exist to look pretty and get married" stereotype, ignoring that they are also leaders and political figures, and only worked on She-Ra because it was the IP DreamWorks offered her. As such, princesses act accordingly here: They are not really leaders, just look pretty, are always looking for romantic attachments, and the Princess title just means they have super powers. It's lame, it's reductive, it's... honestly what I expect of She-Ra at this point, sadly.
If that's true, wouldn't that just be counterproductive to making these characters actual role models for little girls(oh who am I kidding, what child watched this show) and just enforcing the stereotype rather than shinning new light on it. For gods sake, My Little Pony was an IP that felt limiting and guess what, it made Princesses cool and was still able to have a fan base of both little girls plus the growing number of older men and women. That show was filled with more creativity and care into it than what's suppose to be a series of war and childhood abuse, yet the more lightheart 80's cartoon feels like it had more agency than this.
That second part really annoys me, especially because the original line up didn't really have that many princesses (3-Adora, Glimmer, and Mermista) and didn't focus heavily on romance. (They had a Valentine's day episode that was more focused into looking into a characters past and becoming a better person than their romantic relationship)
@@fandude666 Well, most of the Princesses were kinda useless, but that's the fault of the Writers. Aside from that, most Characters were great. Rarity obsessed with fashion and really into guys. In a different she would probably be the vain Girl that has a different BF every Week, or just the evil Alpha Bitch, because that's very easy to write. But not in MLP. There is more to Rarity. She takes great Pride in her Clothes, works hard to achieve her Goals... Everyone of the Mane 6 is more than just a Stereotype. Even Fluttershy, who had to relearn her Lesson multiple Times, became more than just the sensitive Animal Lover who's literally scared of her own Shadow.
Im deeply confused how much control horde prime has over his legion. I mean if they were really a hive mind how the hell did wronghordak get by the two guards?
this Horde "hive mind" is as absurd as any other totalitarian regime in the modern entertainment industry. We are told that "everything is forbidden", but on the other hand, we see that no one controls anything.
@@CoolG97 I get Catra breaking through the Control after her Chip got damaged, but what about Spinnerella? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember HER Chip getting damaged.
Yeah, I wish I could care about Netossa and Spinerella, but they've been nothing but jokes for the 1st 4 seasons ("nothing but jokes" can describe most of this show, actually.) It just seems too little, too late by this point. At least Catra got punched in the face. Frosta, your writing may have been crappy, but I'll always appreciate you doing that. The only other positive I can think of is the mushroom girl at 6:00. She's cute. That is all.
“Everything they have done for the planet” Is he insane!?!?! Where do I even start with that?!?! You can roll back to season one up till Horde Prime shows up and what you have for the most part is a bunch of Princess with power that really do about nothing when it comes down to it and can’t even manage to protect their own Kingdoms let long the whole planet! You have the Horde that until Catra took over where basically sitting around with their thumbs up their butt yet somehow where a “major threat” in a world where one could take over the whole planet due to how bad the heroes suck! And suck they do because when the Horde really starting taking over they could hardly save themselves let long their people. Fast forward to Horde Prime a REAL hardcore threat and both the Horde force before Prime and the Princess might as well have handed the planet over with a bow on it. If I lived on this world I would HATE Princess! All they do is role play, PLAY, day dream, go to parties and try to date each other while your home is being attack by tanks and robots, destroy or your family and loved ones mind controlled with your so called heroes abandoning you because they can hardly save themselves! Even with ALL of this you still get ZERO background on who is even attacking and bloody why! “Our Heroes Ladies and Gentlemen!”
I would HATE to have Mermista as a Princess. When Selenias was in danger and everyone fleed, she stayed behind. But not to actually try and save the Kingdom. When the Horde attacked it again, their Princess was in Brightmoon. Again. And after the Invasion, she spent her Days lying in the Bathtub and eating Ice cream!
@@ValenArtsAnimation At least Sakura doesn't constantly sound bored. People asked me "Would you want her to be constantly happy and cheerful? She's just an introvert." I'm an Introvert too, but I don't sound so bored and tired all the time. I don't need Mermista to be like Pinkie Pie, but even Ren from Rwby showed more Emotions than this Girl- and his Power is to surpress Feelings!
@@johannesseyfried7933 I always thought of Mermista being a worse Harriett. Tries too hard to be this cool and sarcastic teen but then I remember....Harriett seems like she would be a decent leader, atleast she can actually do her job and focus on it.
What annoyed me the most is the handling of its characters which would get sidelined horribly. Poor Hordak was the worst victim. We'll never be able to get more of a back story of his army, his lieutenants, how he got Adora as a child( what what planet Dammit?!), or more about the other realms he visited outside of Despondos. They all wanted to focus on showing how woke the show is but they forgot they have good crucial story moments in here.
It's so frustrating Adora never fought Hordak before Prime came into the picture. What's even more annoying is Hordak, despite being the leader of the horde, was never a major antagonist for Adora and never had a connection to her unlike Catra and Shadow Weaver. You know, the surrogate mother and sis- girlfriend for Adora.
@@Saltedroastedcaramel Catradora Fans: "Oh but the Conflict and Relationship between Catra and Adora was the entire Point of the Show! In the very first She-Ra Comics, there WAS no Hordak, only Catra!" Yeah, I'm sure you People love that Detail. But Dreamworks isn't rebooting the Comics, it's rebooting the Cartoon. Considering how little Noelle Stevenson seemed to know about MotU....I am not entirely sure if she even knows about the comics. Or the Audiobooks.
The Mushroom Shopkeeper at 5:52 weirdly has the best design of the whole show. Likely because she looks very Ghibli-esque, and I find Ghibli designs cute. The Netossa and Spinerella stuff was...okay. They were woefully undercooked from a writing standpoint, but I had slightly more investment in that ship than Catradora, so...um...win, I guess?
I think is the very watered down drawing style. But I find all the character designs pretty boring and all over the place. Like a devianart amateur level style.
0:39 really? cause I'm positive that glimmer teleported catra before and she never got motion sickness. Am I remembering it wrong or is this a continuity screw up someone help me out
There is a reason why Spinnerella and Nettosa were underused and it's very face palm inducing. Basically the person doing Spin's voice claimed to be too busy and they didn't want to separate the couple.
The was Noelle, why make her a voice actress for a heavily advertise character is beyond me. I mean Alex Hirsh has done voices for his own characters too but he's a good voice actor, if Noelle was not that good then why not hire someone else. Replacing voice actor is nothing new. Also, not every couple is 100%, Netossa could just join on missions once in awhile and Spinnerella would be the more care taker for the people or something.
@@fandude666 Yeah hence the face palm, there were simple work arounds like recasting or having Nettosa go on missions without her, cyclones don't seem suited for stealth work. (At least that's what I'm doing for my own reboot.)
fandude666 a series of missed opportunities and lack of direction, and instead nothing but useless filler, mostly horrible characters and character development, and the unnecessary amount of shipping
You can TOTALLY tell that shipping is what the writes focus on especially when it comes to Catra/Adora and Hordak/Entrapta. I mean what's NOT suitable how endorsing a ship where one half is abusive physically and emotionally manipulative while the other is a former conqueror who tried to take over the world?
@@Asaylum117 except for Infinity Train who legit kill Simon on screen This is what i like about Infinity Train they're not afraid to kill their antagonist
@@Asaylum117 The simply go too far with the Villains they try to redeem! The Diamonds stripped Planets of their Ressources for thousands of Years for the creation of an Army that they didn't even need, kidnapped Humans and put them in a Zoo like Animals (something like this actually happened irl in the past!), and fused the corpses of their Soldiers and Enemies together into a giant Super-Weapon just to destroy a Planet they didn't like! Hordak waged War against Etheria for Decades, drove Scorpias People from their own Kingdom and maybe even killed them all, kidnapped Children to turn them into Soldiers, and undoubtedly hurt thousands. Catra.....do I really need to count everything bad that Catra did? Trying to kill everyone just to spite Adora is already horrible enough.
A bond from 10+ years of sharing childhood abuse + Catra selflessly sacrificing herself then dying + Adoras literally a magical Girl that embodies the magic of love = A viable reason to start a redemption arc that leads to a confession of love. Hordak abused by prime to think he was worthless + Entrapta loving imperfections + hordak seeing value in Entrapta even though she's weird + Entrapta basically saves his life = a viable reason for 2 characters to bond. Hordak is mind wiped and basically only remembers Entrapta which brings up an interesting idea of whether he's the same hordak as the one before.
Less shipping, more character development. Less relationships, more world building. Less style without substance, more substance with style. Less antics, more plot development. Develop, develop, develop. Be like anime. Look at what a mangaka does, then go even further beyond. Avatar. Korra. Steven Universe. Voltron LD. Don't show us your Tumblr page. Show us your Brothers Grimm.
The Thumbnail was Cathartic, but I get the feeling that's as much as Catra receives with all her warm crimes she committed. Dating the hero being the villain has that advantage. (and a typical fanfic plot) Wrong Hordak is still creepy because we don't know or can tell it's the same on from Etheria, so Entrapta is just falling for someone over looks. The substance of his character doesn't matter. Also, I don't se how anyone could be afraid of Hordak, he rare came out of his room and it was his commanders in charge of the horde. You'd think Adora (and story) would be more concerned with her being seen with Catra the most bloodthirsty of the Horde- but this show doesn't think before stepping let alone a few steps ahead. Just gonna add to this comment: I would bet the relationship Glimmer has with her subjects is of a tyrant, since the shopkeep cowers in fear of her. This can't be disproven, since the show never showed us.
Maybe it would have worked better if Hordak had personally led his Army in the past, before that Defect forced him to stay in his Lab all day to clone himself a new Body. Give us a Flashback where Micah and Angella fight as a Team against Hordak. Show us why you should be afraid of that Vampire-Alien Overlord. If I'm honest, this mostly comes from my Desire to see our supposed big Villain actually do stuff. We never found out how exactly Micah got "killed", did we?
@@sergeybin2390 That is no excuse, many shows have a bunch of different writers doesn't have problem with consistency, different writers but the same director, the same creator
@@Mactao100 This means that the showrunner cares about his creation, and the presence of communication between members of the work team. I doubt this applies to the Nu-Ra crew.
How are not people seeing this so-called ship is *toxic* for a show that requires diversity, abuse, and so much more they just go by people shipping them;did anybody think of "Oh this toxic let's create another ship or just have no ship at all" Like there's so many shows that can have a ship that's not toxic not only ships but relationship (not the love part)
@@jeangentry6656 I'm literally pansexual and even if somebody is not part of the lgbtq and giving criticism to a show that doesn't mean they're homophobic they're just saying the relationship in a whole is toxic not that they're two woman in a relationship 😒🤦🏾♀🤦🏾♀🤦🏾♀
@@ValenArtsAnimation wait really...wow.... so basically their relationship is toxic too if it's based on their relationship but I don't know is their relationship so I can't say anythin
For me personally I don't mind lgbtq characters whether they're the main character background characters but first show to have this many ships trying to add them all up in one whole season it's just outrageous
@@Aego384 I love how they wanna be relevant and progressive but lgbt and poc are the main they cater and actually don’t cater a lot to diversity a lot tbh
5:11 "Catra wants to buy properties" With what money? She is basically homeless, unless she hid some cash somewhere in case this whole "horde leader" thing doesn't work out but I don't think she is smart enough to do that...
The way the writers executed Catra's redemption makes no sense at all. Like you said, look at how they treated Scorpia!! I like this show, but I can't just look past this, this is ridiculous. It's like the writers stopped taking their show seriously. The writers probably know how ridiculous it is, but they just desperately want to ship Adora and Catra so they value ships more than story and characters.
The title of the show is actually, She-Ra AND the Princesses of Power. And if you haven’t been paying attention, there is and has been more than one She-Ra, legendary warrior, we’ve seen two, Adora and Mara, but there are even more, it’s like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, one dies, and another gets called up. Ever heard of Jem? Garfield? Mickey Mouse Clubhouse? What’s ur problem?
@@crystalraf She-Ra/Adora is still the primary character who the audience is supposed to be following (aka the protagonist). The show's writing isn't treating her the way it should.
@@crystalraf The problem is that Adora is the worst female protagonist than Ruby Rose. Adora is seen as less important than Catra and Glimmer. She's not a paragon character because she barely does anything to advance the plot. This show is supposed to be about her, hence the name *_She ra_* and the Princesses of Power. More like powerless if you ask me......
According to the Writers, that weird genetic Defect is the reason why Hordak can't be mind controlled so easily. So he doesn't even get to resist the Brainwashing through his own Strength! That is a good Question: Why DID Horde Prime accept Hordak back into his Army? He presumably still has than Gene-Defect, and Prime couldn't have healed it, because if he *could* he didn't need to banish Hordak in the first place! No matter how I look at this, it just doesn't make Sense. 😣😡 And....wait! Didn't Entrapta build him his new Armor to ease the pain he was in? He's just wearing Robes now, so shouldn't he be in immense pain again? I actually enjoyed Nettossa and Spinnerella this Season. They start to feel like real Characters! It isn't much and way too late, but I take what I can get at this point.
@@CoolG97 He did say that everyone has a Place in his Empire, but Hordak still is a defect Clone. Why would somebody so obsessed with Purity and Perfection keep a Clone around that's imperfect? And thanks to the Writers we KNOW that he's still defect, otherwise Hordak couldn't resist the Mindcontrol.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Yeah big oversight on Horde Prime's part "This clone doesn't completely conform and could be a problem down the road...oh well just kick him out into the galaxy with a few ships and hope he doesn't turn vengeful." Heck just stuff Hordak into a coffin, send him into the Despondos hoping it would bury the shame and have Hordak wake up on Etheria thinking it's a mission, that would make way more sense.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Just for fun, I head-canon that Horde Prime used some of his own brother's DNA for the clone troopers and more of his own to make replacement bodies for himself. Which is where the brother thing comes from, because they are technically his brothers.
@@sergeybin2390 He also was pining after some other Lady in his youth if I remember correctly, and apparently wrote Letters for her that he never sent. The poor Woman was deeply uncomfortable when she found out about that. Imagine if Hitler is in love with you! How....how would you even react to that?!
@@sergeybin2390 I did some research. Apparently the Woman's name was Stefanie Rabatsch. Their entire "Relationship" was in Hitlers Head because all he ever did was looking at her from a distance. She didn't even know he existed.
You know, if this wasn't the last season and they weren't obviously rushing the developement they refused to write in favor of filler i could at least say they had good pacing. But the writting and pacing are bad, and what's worse is that they had the chance to plan the whole series and decided to wing it.
@@HappyGoof4 Adora and her friends are cartoon teenagers. The writers of the show are full grown adults who have a job. In no way should you ever "Wing it" When writing a show, it's never a good thing.
Once again it sounds like the best praises that can be given to this show are muddled due to the sloppy writing. The writers cared so much about their precious ships of Catra/Adora and Hoardac/Entrapta that they didn't bother to write in good stories to make the audience, and the other characters, accept it. It's just a case of "because the plot/writers said so," which is writing at its laziest.
Nothing is more satisfying than seeing Catra get punched in the Face. Except maybe Cozy Glow getting hit by that Avalanche. That was also very satisfying.
You keep using words like “show don’t tell” or “character development” or “story” like they’re important, or something. And you keep using “shipping” like it isn’t the entire reason for a series like this to exist! Seriously, all you need to know is that Adora and Katra KISS, ON SCREEN! in the final episode to know that this is the GREATEST SERIES EVAR!!! Close sarcasm tag, the people who wrote this show have an entirely different definition of “good series”.
I can't help but feel like entertainment in general has been steadily getting more and more dumbed down with each passing generation, from comic books making heroes seem ever more straddle the line between being an anti-hero to outright villain with some anti-villain mindset, to video games overreaching and overhyping themselves on morally amibiguous plotlines that have to constantly fight with the demand for better graphics and marketability, to cartoons having overly forgiving and essentially neutured main characters, unless any of the above happen to feature a woman/minority, then they tend to be overly-cringy hyper-competent and overall boring characters whose only flaw is that they are too good to not hold themselves back. The worst part? This is what the next generation will have as the bench-setter, cause TV's gonna die the slow death and you can bet if any copies of anything remotely decent still exists after 2050, it'll likely be stored away on a subscription streaming site (assuming we don't just jump to competent VR and suffer massive depopulation) and not everyone gonna be lucky enough to maybe stumble upon a half-decent show from the early 2000's they probably never even knew existed.
Y’all hit the nail on the coffin for me, SHE-RA : A SHOW OF MISSED OPPORTUNITIES, I know they don’t have a lot of time between episodes but why skip over what could’ve been cool character interactions? Or Address the Fact that catra almost killed the ENTIRE UNIVERSE(or reality) , glimmer is cool with it and the fact her mom had to sacrifice herself to fix the mess catra caused, makes no sense why Glimmer didn’t get more time to learn to trust catra or spend more time with her dad who was presumed dead. I like she-ra I just wish the writing was just a little bit better
Johannes Seyfried oh yeah you’re right, but to skip over that was such a bad call, that’s some rich drama , but no one to my knowledge actually calls catra out on that
@@sergeybin2390 The Dimension itself was "luckily completely empty except for Etheria and its Moons. And the Sun. Wait. Are there other Planets in the Etheria System? I hope not, because without the Sun they undoubtedly froze over.
So Glimmer thinks that because she and the Alliance are mostly royalty that means her subjects should automatically trust and respect her even at the cost of their lives? Sorry, but that sounds more like a tyrant to me. If the show focused on the Princesses actually being decent leaders and interacting with their subjects (except Perfuma, though she’s not really a tale charge type), then it could have been a cool plot thread of underground rebellions that could parallel the space rebellions. Then raise the stakes of the Alliance choosing whether to strike a blow to their enemies or protect their people. But no!! None of that pesky world building stuff. Straight to bad jokes and shipping. I will reiterate this: Queen Poppy is a better queen than Glimmer!! Selfless, personable, knowledgable, resourceful, kind, loving, considerate, can fight and plan, and learns from her mistakes! She helps when she can, raises spirits, and makes sure every feels appreciated. Give Poppy, the Snack Pack, and the other Troll genres Etheria and things will actually turn out great for the Etherians and Horde Prime will no longer be a threat. Even Barb with her World Tour domination is a better leader, and is actually competent as a would be conquerer (cough Hordak cough). Why does this show like to represent competent females way less than Trolls? Just why?
Civilians getting caught in the crossfire between the Rebellion and the Horde was actually a recurring thing in the original series. The Horde would steal food and raid villages just on the rumor that they were helping the rebels.
There actually were Trolls in the old Show. Imagine if this tiny Creature with the Mohawk suddenly showed up and crushed everyone with her Rock Music! 😂 "LISTEN UP, PEOPLE! I'M QUEEN BARB OF THE SPACE-ROCK TROLLS, AND I WILL DEFEAT THE HORDE WITH THE POWER OF MY MUSIC!"
@Gaby Droz That for sure wouldn’t surprise me. World building seemed like a much bigger thing with older cartoon, and war naturally lends itself to cool action and character scenes like that. Think it also “helped” that the last open war was WW2, with a bunch of vets from WW1 still around plus the general desire for good to kick evils butt. A lot of inspiration and passion that this show doesn’t have cause “lolz! Ships!” Avatar:The Last Airbender is also great at showing the civilian front of the 100 year War, on both sides with good, bad, and gray everywhere. Man I love that show.
@Johannes Seyfried Dude, don’t tempt me to write a fanfic about this 😂 Trolls have wormholes, magic gems, and wacky physics so it could totally work out that they could end up on Etheria! Maybe Troll songs have a latent magic based on the strings that could have disrupted Despondos and created small portals that the Trolls could have gone through. Add in Madam Razz as the kooky old forest woman who is the only one that knows of this and watch the ensuring chaos. Barb would totally be ready for battle and Poppy would go for peace til she seeS the way they treat Kyle. Then her nice hair tie comes off and Etheria finds themselves under the command of tiny musical creatures with strange hair.
@@jamesporter571 Thanks. Yeah, it's sad what they did to Hordak. He never achieved anything. Cloning a new Body? Failed! Killing Catra? Failed! Breaking free of the Brainwashing? Failed, because according to the Writers his Defect makes him difficult to control. Even when he kills Horde Prime he doesn't win!
@@greendecepticon6148 She ra is Steven Universe's wasted potential plus less episodes, too much references than needed from outside material, lobbed off material since She ra is only half of the Masters of the Universe, and spite. *_A lot of SPITE._*
At least Steven Universe showed a good example of how bad a toxic relationship can be regardless of the couple's genders! Shippers needs to stop supporting toxic relationships with terrible writing especially when it comes to lgbt characters! Don't people feel this trend might be sending the wrong message about the lgbt community and how a healthy relationships works in general? Just imagine how toxic relationships might impress kids who witness and experience domestic violence.
The Fans apparently really want a Movie. I hope they don't get it. Yeah, it's mean, but that way, hopefully everyone will soon forget this Thing. I doubt it however.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Not going to happen If it had been a massive success across the board then dreamworks, Mattel and Netflix might have some interest in it. Since that did not happen, unless serious cash gets into it to buy the parties that are not willing.
According to Noelle, he is now in a Poly-Relationship with Rogelio and Lonnie. Which is weird for more reasons than you might think. I get Kyle x Rogelio. Well, I don't get the appeal, but I understand that the Writers ship it. But why did Noelle put Lonnie in there too?
@@johannesseyfried7933 I personally find it freaky, it reeks of bestiality. Can't they simply be friends? I think that is all he would need, good friends, acknowledgement and support.
@@Tekaneable I wouldn't go so far as to call it Beastiality....Rogelio is, after all an intelligent Being, capable of Speech and higher Thought. Or would Catradora count as Beastiality to you as well?
@@johannesseyfried7933 No, because she has a human face. Rogelio has reptilian face and other features hence why it's very "eeek" to me. But Catra is not really partner matrial either.
Yeah People are saying Catra’s redemption arc was on par with ZUKO’s. Way too much credit to be matched to that tier. Honestly now after thinking about it Her redemption arc was more fuel with too much shipping fuel. Now it’s making me kinda angry about her being practically too easily forgiven. Adora I could sort of take (though even she can’t understand Catra’s motives) but Glimmer? Bow? The other princesses in general is too much. Though Frosta at least punched Catra and that was cathartic and Perfuma does tell she’s basically been a shitty friend.
the only thing i liked was the mushroom shopkeeper's design and frosta punching catra the rest of this episode along with the series as a whole is a dumpster fire. this show was nothing but useless filler and toxic shipping like catadora getting praised like its something good.
Is it just me or is this season slowly driving the Tanners to drop more and more little, snarky comments? Could it be that the Try-harder-for-victory-squad is nibbling at their patience? Good... good... let the sarcasm flow through you...
@@peterkrochmalni673 No, that's too kinky. If we aren't careful, she might actually enjoy it. But she could start with rebuilding some of the Houses the Horde destroyed....
1:05 I'm kind of tired of Сatra's ears constantly changing their position on head. But I have to agree, she looks cute in this shot. But still #Catraispieceofgarbage
15:21 2020 gave us Fat Geralt punching..Asian kid with a bow and now Tiny Korra Punching Domestic Abuse Catra. For all it's faults 2020 at least gave us somethings worthwhile.
@@sergeybin2390 Now I want E.R to make a Video about She-Ra. And maybe Lily Orchard too. I don't like her, but she does bring up some good Points from time to time.
this series never fails to show me how much of a better writer my friends and I are compared to the bullshit this show put out as a story... if we can even call it that....
Hey M and J. Got a parody collaboration idea for you two. Ken burns presents: The Shipping Wars A documentary of the wars between the main story and pointless relationships. Music by Sabaton.
This is probably an unpopular opinion, given the comments I've seen, but I feel like the way the characters react in season 5 is consistent with the overall way the show has handled the war on Etheria. The war has been used primarily as a backdrop and is only ever taken seriously in certain dramatic moments. We don't really see the true effect it has on the planet or the people, even what kind of loss of life may have happened. Heck, when Mermista loses her kingdom, she sulks with ice cream. It's hard to take the war seriously when that's how a monarch deals with her kingdom being under siege. Compare this with Avatar; the Last Airbender, which actually shows some of the horrors of war. AtLA explores the consequences of those kinds of conflicts (death, loss of culture, prison camps, crippling injuries, etc), whereas with SPoP, the war is more of a backdrop that is seen in a lot of fantasy series, with barely any loss of life or permanent consequences. I'm not trying to argue that SPoP's final season was perfect -- it's not. One of my biggest disappointments was how everyone seemed to forget about Angella. Disregarding Catra's vague war crimes that we don't know the details of, we know her actions resulted in the loss of Angella, and no one says a word about it. Glimmer doesn't say a word about it. That's just wrong. As an aside, I don't think it's necessary to be invested in Entrapdak to empathize with Hordak. He was left to die because of a disability he can't help, and was so brainwashed by his upbringing that he wasted his existence on the shred of hope the person that threw him away would find him worthy. For those who think Hordak could have simply chosen to live a new life when he was stranded on Etheria, I will say this --- cult deprograming is NOT easy. It's not something people just shrug off. Those kinds of things can haunt you for the rest of your life, even with a support network of people to help you (which Hordak did not have, and Wrong Hordak clearly does -- plus WH doesn't have many memories to get in the way of his new experiences). I'm not saying these things justify his actions. Hordak should absolutely be held accountable for the damage he has done to Etheria and its people. However, I don't think those actions render him unsympathetic.
KittyKraze For some reason whenever I’m first for a video I never do it on purpose. Neither do I have my notifications on, I just happen to be on TH-cam at the right moment at the right time 😂 no but seriously this is the most success I’ve ever felt
You think this episode proves Nets was underused? Wait till the next one, you'll be bashing your head on a wall with the continued piss poor character usage.
@@kittykraze2898 Hordak: "Really? A Net and some Water was all it took to defeat this Girl? I'm gonna find a Volcano and jump in. This is too embarrassing!"
Nothing is stronger than the power of shipping. :P Also... the Rebellion isn't staying in that village, so shouldn't they be concerned that advertising that it's no longer under Horde control might invite reprisals?
3:25 Why is wrong Hordak doing that uguu kawaii weaboo early 2000s winky face instead of just normally messing up winking like everyone else. Do they want to ship him with Entrapta now? Edit: How is the writing so inconsequential?!?! The clones communicate through the chip kinda, wrong Hordak doesn't have the chip, yet the Horde never questions it???? Or was that dropped? And how old does the Horde get, like what agr is Hordak. Shouldn't he be dead if he ages and Etheria has been shit off from the Universe for God knows how long?????
It's a shame Zamber liked this show so much, you don't need to be a fan of the orginal to see this show is poorly written tumblr bait wearing another shows skin.
We lost yet another TH-camr to the lure of lesbian Catgirls. Such a shame. 😞 I haven't watched her for at least two Years. What was Zambers Opinion on the Star vs Finale? I vaguely remember that she made Reactions to that.
Wait, so Frosta is okay with wrong Hordak being in the camp when checking for chips but not okay with Catra being there with them and straight up punches her but not him!?!?!? The fuck kind of logic is that!?!?!? Did the writers for this show not even think about that in the first place!?!?!? WTF!?!?!?
Show Don't Tell is a lesson learned by talented writers, so of course we get exposition everywhere im this atrocity of animation. At least you are almost done & over with it girls. This show is a stain that should be wiped away. Why Mushroom people?
Because the Mushroom Kingdom is now canonically on the Planet of Etheria. Peach just never got invited into the Rebellion, because she was too busy getting kidnapped by Bowser.
I find it interesting how whenever a video has a certain take, the comments almost always side with it. I'm not saying that's bad. It's just something I've noticed. When I see a positive video about she-ra, the comments praise the show. Whenever I a negative review of the same show, the comments dislike the show.
People have already divided into: those who love this show and only watch positive video about it, and those who do not like the show and watch videos with criticism of it.
@@sergeybin2390 I'm kind of an in-between. Since I thought the show was good the first time I watched it, but I enjoy watching both positive and negative videos of it. Currently anyways.
I'm glad that you pointed this one out! :) I've also noticed and felt that same way about video takes on shows and movies all of the time. A lot of comment sections are pretty much echo chambers for videos that made a positive or negative review/analysis of a show. Now when someone is indifferent or feels conflicted about a show, it would be hard to go against the grain with an opinion in either a mostly positive or negative comment section (without getting attacked). So my feelings for the She-Ra reboot are 'meh,' heavy-handled, and full of wasted potentials, but I would consider it somewhat inoffensive too. I also never care much for the original She-Ra, but didn't think it was all that bad as detractors made it out to be either. I still disapprove how disrespectful the reboot showrunners (and media outlets) were being towards the 80s cartoon, its dead co-creator, and its fanbase. With this reboot, some people are just deliberately bias with how much they love or hate the show for the most superficial reasons. Some of those people are also easily divided into the SJW or anti-SJW camps, which is scary. But I like how M and J actually offer constructive criticism with this reboot unlike most negative videos I've seen. And the comment sections for their She-Ra videos have been mostly civil with little to no name-calling or conspiracy theories going around too.
@@sunspotmill1291 Thanks for your response. I'm glad you agree with me! I thought the show was good, because I found some of drama good and could attach to a few of the characters. There's a lot of flaws in the show that I didn't noticed when I first watched it.
@@sunspotmill1291 The sad fact about SJWs and anti-SJWs is that they're also predictable. For example, I was on Toxic Fandom, going to read about Hazbin Hotel, and I knew who would have sided with the Fandom or the Hatedom before I even began to read. This makes them also easier to manipulate, as it showed with the first old controversy about this show long ago.
I feel like maybe wrong hordak is suppoused to show the conditioning that OUR hordak had gone through? wrong hordakis innocentjust asoriginal hordakstarted out...but urhordak wasproperlyraised byhordprimeand the collective...whilewrog ordak was taken away from that condiioning pretty early on in his creation. wrong hordak is similarto adorain thebegining who thought the hord were the good guys. and we see ven seperaed from the hord aaearly levellikewrong hordak was...the conditioning was strong. so I think they were trying to use wrong hordak to show that Hordak wasthe wa he was due o howhe was raised in thecollective.and since even the maun group struggled with thechips...it gives a interesing picture of how hordak probably started out. andow thegood was only if it helped serve prime. andeven while seperatedfrom prime hehad still donehis best to try to get back to primeandry to gain hisfavor...much likehow wrong horddak often did things when itcame toprime as his motivation. ifyoulookat it fromthatperspectiveit make wrong hordak more interesting becauseit givesaimpression of how hordak was like when he was younger and that might helpincrease atleast somedevelopmentin ourhordakandowweview him. that saidit doesn't realy change all the war crimesand how errible a person he is and we don;t actually see HIM properly work through things
Ok, I think Wrong Hordak's role is to actually show that clones are NOT the same, as Horde Prime intended. You can't really mistake Hordak with Wrongdak here, if you compare them to each other. And it also show that they not all evil, most of them just belive that Horde Prime wants their good. But is base on expiriance of someone else then Hordak, so it's yet another point of view. You can guess that Hordak was as lost as Wrongdak, at first, but I doubt that he would do the same as him. That's why this character even if he is comic relife is important to the story and Hordak's development. It's shows that it's the choices you made decide who you are, not genetics.
Well that's all well and good to try and show but.... all of horde primes soldiers ARE literally clones,. They are genetically the same with presumably the same experiences as servants and foot soldiers and even the same mindset thanks to the chips. Even if we do allow the idea that its just a matter of circumstance, its basically irrelevant plot point anyways since the final episode has them all killed off except for hordak. Its like how Finn went from a traumatized, brainwashed child soldier to a traitor that mows down hundreds of his fellow troopers, people he' likely known all his life and are probably just as brainwashed as he supposedly was with the plot giving nary a thought to actually developing that part of his character. But getting back to your examples, even cut off from horde primes influence and being left alone for an indeterminate amount of time, Hordak still ultimately chose to conquer and enslave the scoprion people, recruit and train an army of child soldiers (which he presumably kidnapped) and wage war across an entire planet solely for the purpose of getting resources to contact horde prime and get back to his fold again. With Wrong-Hordak, it seems less a matter of circumstances and more an issue of dumb luck as he comes off as half-baked and not very bright to begin with. Consider it took little to convince him our 'heroes' were on horde primes side despite the other lones being clearly aggressive to them, and him running off with them, then the first bit of evidence he finds that horde prime isn't perfect practically deprograms him entirely, it all just comes off as a lot of silly contrivances and rush job with the plot. Not to mention the only reason why he and hordak even have these storylines is to push out a ship tease, which in itself was already brought a heap of problems for this show. It just comes off as dumb luck instead of natural pacing.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Hordak:"Oh no, I would totally still be evil. If the roles were reversed, this conversation would never happen. You be dead, and I would laughing. Ha Ha Ha Ha....it hurts to laugh."
And the sad thing is Hordak before S5 was still one of the better DreamWorks Villains for he still felt like somewhat of a Global threat unlike HTTYD 3's villain Grimmel who they say is an Global Level threat but really did nothing but threaten the life of Hiccups Dragon and light a few building on fire. Having Wrong Hordak be an add on comic relief is like questioning why Dean felt he needed to add a bunch of immature comedy instead of some more serious drama/conflict in his last film. The biggest stinker being the new Jurassic Park cartoon somehow treated it's audience more seriously than either the She-rah or How to Train Your Dragon finale! 'Why couldn't those shows up an PG rating like the later?'
I think Grimmel was still kinda cool, but he isn't anywhere near the Level of Drago Bloodfist or Vigo Grimborn. Wait. There is a Jurassic Park cartoon?
@@johannesseyfried7933 Yes. DreamWorks Universal, and Amblin entertainment made an Jurassic Park "Kids" cartoon for Netflix. Starting out I thought it was pretty terrible but later it got much more intense and perilous than I thought it'd be. It seemed to realize that kids could handle more than some other shows I've seen on the platform. It softened a certain blow at the finale but still. What bothers me the most about Grimmel and what makes him not as good as the two you mentioned is he's simply put not an original character. We've already seen examples of Anti-Hiccups in the form of Daggur, Vigo, Krogan and Alvin +Yohan, so when Grimmel arrives he feels more like yet another Saturday morning Cartoon villain as supposed to a real threat. Doesn't help that Vigo was a much, much better written character overall.
I think the REAL question everyone is wondering is: What happened to Hordak’s clone/imp son??? And DO NOT tell me that Rogelio and Kyle adopted the imp, because they HAD A BABY, or they found a different baby imp newborn age and adopted it, Hordaks’s imp was around the 5-12 or teenage age of maturation.
That thumbnail is soo satisfying
Also if only they Made an episode with Catra apologizing to all the princess for all the crime she did and Bond with them one by one then her redemption arc would've atleast be a bit better
So what you are saying they should have done something like the last airbender with Zuko.
@@bashooi yep
The thing i like about Zuko redemption arc is that when he join the good side ,he didn't just get accepted right away he need to earn their trust
Catra on the other hand doesn't need to do any of that all she need is Adora to tell the princess that she's on their side and bam she just got accepted immediately , which make her redemption arc seems rushed and poorly written
@@ValenArtsAnimation Yeah
@@ValenArtsAnimation Also, Zuko was pretty useful for the good guys.
@@mima_piedade yep
Show don't tell was taken behind the shed and replaced with shipping, bad storytelling, and being very loud.
I'm sorry but this last minute conflict between Netossa and Spinnerella isn't enough for me to care about them
as characters
Yup.
Is it just me or the female character in She ra got the same treatment like the female character in Naruto
@@ValenArtsAnimation Underutilized and primordially used for shipping?
@@KelShu yes
@@ValenArtsAnimation and that's why I still hate Sakura. Like throughout the whole season she's cared about one person in that was Sasuke 😒
That Icey Punch Frosta gave was oddly satisfying.
Rewind that shit 20 times over!!
coub it!
If Catra was a man, these ship obsessed kids would be singing a different tune.
The sad thing is that you’re not wrong
So true
People are hating on Joker for being mean and abusive toward Harley yet love Catra even though she did the same thing with Adora
Valen Arts Animation See this is what I don’t get. Apparently if a guy abuses a person they’re hated by all these people, yet the same people praise the same thing if it’s a women does it. It honestly makes me sick and angry
@@ValenArtsAnimation Sadly, they romanticize Joker and Harley's relationship, too.
Actually it would probably just attract a different set of ship obsessed fans.
I can't get behind Adora and Catra as a ship it seems so unhealthy
It’s very unhealthy, I don’t even know how people see pass the horrible things that Catra did
I agree
It’s Hella Toxic!
Firecraker J it’s a freaking wasteland of a ship
Yup.
Wasn't Catra teleported before? Like when she was captured by Bow and Glimmer? She didn't get sick then why does she get sick now?
And no one has shown signs of getting sick from her teleportations before, so what's the cause of it?
Nobody ever got sick from Glimmers Teleportation.
I would have to check the rest of S5 to see if it is a Trait that at least sticks with Catra.
adora facepalming in the background is me with this entire show :/
I can relate, dude :/
15:09
*Catra smiles and shy enters the group.*
Frosta: "AND THEN COMES A GIANT FIST!" 🤛
Adora: "Frosta wait! Catra's with us now. She's a good guy." 😯
Frosta: "Oh....😐 AND THEN COMES A GIANT-" 🤛
Adora: "FROSTA!" 😠
Frosta: "Okay! Okay! Geez!" 😒
*still punches her in the face*
😂😂😂😂😂
3:43 Sigh...OK so cartoon logic I guess but... for all the characters in hood and cloak you can clearly see their head shape like Catra’s ears and Adora’s ponytail... so where is all of Entrapta’s hair now? Does it magically vanish in a hood?
Maybe she untie her hair
Like Glimmer's body fat in a horde uniform.
She probably uses the same Shampoo as Aria, Sonata and Adagio.
You're asking this of a show that has holes in space suits for Adoras hair, Entraptas hair, and Catras tail.
Seeing Frosta punching Catra feels satisfying. That is something many of us would want to do.
Adora got to do it, Frosta got to do it....
Now we only need:
Mermista
Nettossa
Spinnerella
Glimmer
And the Horde Kids to slap her.
Perfuma isn't one for physical Violence, and Entrapta forgave, which while stupid, is still in character for her.
@@johannesseyfried7933
Hordak:"I remember."
Kyle:"Hordak's back?"
Catra:"Man, I can't believe it's good to hear your voice again, Ho..."
Hordak punches Catra square in the jaw
Hordak:"I'll rip your stomach out with my teeth and drill holes into your skull with my barehands!"
Kyle:"Yeah that's Hordak."
@@fandude666 if only
And so we enter the third act of the season, to which I say: THANK. GOD! Even when She-Ra is on its final season, with a hundred plotlines awaiting conclusions, this show just meanders about unless it's to excuse Catra. And the conclusions to said plotlines are mediocre at best or inexistent at worst (who are Adora's parents if the First Ones have been extinct for what appears to be millenia? Why did Hordak's baptism not work? Why isn't anyone trying to get Angella back?)
On the Glimmer front, I actually have an explanation instead of questions, for once: Stevenson has said that she doesn't enjoy princesses, even as a kid. She seems to believe in the "Princesses just exist to look pretty and get married" stereotype, ignoring that they are also leaders and political figures, and only worked on She-Ra because it was the IP DreamWorks offered her. As such, princesses act accordingly here: They are not really leaders, just look pretty, are always looking for romantic attachments, and the Princess title just means they have super powers. It's lame, it's reductive, it's... honestly what I expect of She-Ra at this point, sadly.
If that's true, wouldn't that just be counterproductive to making these characters actual role models for little girls(oh who am I kidding, what child watched this show) and just enforcing the stereotype rather than shinning new light on it. For gods sake, My Little Pony was an IP that felt limiting and guess what, it made Princesses cool and was still able to have a fan base of both little girls plus the growing number of older men and women. That show was filled with more creativity and care into it than what's suppose to be a series of war and childhood abuse, yet the more lightheart 80's cartoon feels like it had more agency than this.
That second part really annoys me, especially because the original line up didn't really have that many princesses (3-Adora, Glimmer, and Mermista) and didn't focus heavily on romance. (They had a Valentine's day episode that was more focused into looking into a characters past and becoming a better person than their romantic relationship)
@@fandude666 Well, most of the Princesses were kinda useless, but that's the fault of the Writers.
Aside from that, most Characters were great.
Rarity obsessed with fashion and really into guys. In a different she would probably be the vain Girl that has a different BF every Week, or just the evil Alpha Bitch, because that's very easy to write.
But not in MLP. There is more to Rarity.
She takes great Pride in her Clothes, works hard to achieve her Goals...
Everyone of the Mane 6 is more than just a Stereotype.
Even Fluttershy, who had to relearn her Lesson multiple Times, became more than just the sensitive Animal Lover who's literally scared of her own Shadow.
It seems like the more we learn about Noelle the less I don’t appreciate her
@@Groomsman Some how, she's her own most interesting character.
Im deeply confused how much control horde prime has over his legion. I mean if they were really a hive mind how the hell did wronghordak get by the two guards?
Plot convince, the trick is not to avoid it but make sure to hide it.
This show.....doesn't know how to hide it.
They answer is simple: Bad guys need to be losers right now so anything that could inconvenience the good guys doesn't exist anymore.
this Horde "hive mind" is as absurd as any other totalitarian regime in the modern entertainment industry. We are told that "everything is forbidden", but on the other hand, we see that no one controls anything.
@@sergeybin2390 Aside from the baptism there doesn't seem to be any consequences for failure and it's too easy to break the control.
@@CoolG97 I get Catra breaking through the Control after her Chip got damaged, but what about Spinnerella?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember HER Chip getting damaged.
Yeah, I wish I could care about Netossa and Spinerella, but they've been nothing but jokes for the 1st 4 seasons ("nothing but jokes" can describe most of this show, actually.) It just seems too little, too late by this point.
At least Catra got punched in the face. Frosta, your writing may have been crappy, but I'll always appreciate you doing that.
The only other positive I can think of is the mushroom girl at 6:00. She's cute. That is all.
“Everything they have done for the planet” Is he insane!?!?! Where do I even start with that?!?! You can roll back to season one up till Horde Prime shows up and what you have for the most part is a bunch of Princess with power that really do about nothing when it comes down to it and can’t even manage to protect their own Kingdoms let long the whole planet! You have the Horde that until Catra took over where basically sitting around with their thumbs up their butt yet somehow where a “major threat” in a world where one could take over the whole planet due to how bad the heroes suck! And suck they do because when the Horde really starting taking over they could hardly save themselves let long their people. Fast forward to Horde Prime a REAL hardcore threat and both the Horde force before Prime and the Princess might as well have handed the planet over with a bow on it. If I lived on this world I would HATE Princess! All they do is role play, PLAY, day dream, go to parties and try to date each other while your home is being attack by tanks and robots, destroy or your family and loved ones mind controlled with your so called heroes abandoning you because they can hardly save themselves! Even with ALL of this you still get ZERO background on who is even attacking and bloody why!
“Our Heroes Ladies and Gentlemen!”
I would HATE to have Mermista as a Princess.
When Selenias was in danger and everyone fleed, she stayed behind. But not to actually try and save the Kingdom.
When the Horde attacked it again, their Princess was in Brightmoon. Again.
And after the Invasion, she spent her Days lying in the Bathtub and eating Ice cream!
@@johannesseyfried7933 damn Mermista is way more useless than Sakura
@@ValenArtsAnimation At least Sakura doesn't constantly sound bored.
People asked me "Would you want her to be constantly happy and cheerful? She's just an introvert."
I'm an Introvert too, but I don't sound so bored and tired all the time. I don't need Mermista to be like Pinkie Pie, but even Ren from Rwby showed more Emotions than this Girl- and his Power is to surpress Feelings!
@@johannesseyfried7933 Soo true ,Mermista sounds like an edgy 14 years old girl who listen to Billie Eilish
@@johannesseyfried7933 I always thought of Mermista being a worse Harriett. Tries too hard to be this cool and sarcastic teen but then I remember....Harriett seems like she would be a decent leader, atleast she can actually do her job and focus on it.
Show don't tell? That's for good writers only.
Show? DON'T! TELL!!!!!
Frosta uses Ice Punch! It's super effective!
Catra sadly hasn't fainted.
Idk, I think she should use again for good measure
Frosta uses ice punch!
Oof! Catra's hard on the ground!
Catra uses are you serious!
Frosta uses the lasting horde scum joke!
She-ra says RESPAWN
What annoyed me the most is the handling of its characters which would get sidelined horribly. Poor Hordak was the worst victim. We'll never be able to get more of a back story of his army, his lieutenants, how he got Adora as a child( what what planet Dammit?!), or more about the other realms he visited outside of Despondos. They all wanted to focus on showing how woke the show is but they forgot they have good crucial story moments in here.
It's so frustrating Adora never fought Hordak before Prime came into the picture. What's even more annoying is Hordak, despite being the leader of the horde, was never a major antagonist for Adora and never had a connection to her unlike Catra and Shadow Weaver. You know, the surrogate mother and sis- girlfriend for Adora.
YES TO EVERYTHING you guys just said, SO MUCH WASTED POTENTIAL
@@Saltedroastedcaramel Catradora Fans: "Oh but the Conflict and Relationship between Catra and Adora was the entire Point of the Show! In the very first She-Ra Comics, there WAS no Hordak, only Catra!"
Yeah, I'm sure you People love that Detail. But Dreamworks isn't rebooting the Comics, it's rebooting the Cartoon.
Considering how little Noelle Stevenson seemed to know about MotU....I am not entirely sure if she even knows about the comics.
Or the Audiobooks.
@@johannesseyfried7933 I doubt she does. She's more interested in other franchises than the one she gets to reboot
@@johannesseyfried7933 Hmm, early MotU comics. NuRa fans have descended to cherry picking.
The Mushroom Shopkeeper at 5:52 weirdly has the best design of the whole show. Likely because she looks very Ghibli-esque, and I find Ghibli designs cute.
The Netossa and Spinerella stuff was...okay. They were woefully undercooked from a writing standpoint, but I had slightly more investment in that ship than Catradora, so...um...win, I guess?
I think is the very watered down drawing style. But I find all the character designs pretty boring and all over the place. Like a devianart amateur level style.
I too found the shopkeepers design to be rather good
@@anaverdenelli8223 I call it a grade above "How to draw Anime" art book.
It's ashame such a good design was given to the background character
This is a better shot of her. 6:46
Netossa is actually one of the most competent characters is a shame she is not used more
0:39 really? cause I'm positive that glimmer teleported catra before and she never got motion sickness. Am I remembering it wrong or is this a continuity screw up someone help me out
yeah actually she teleported catra that episode bo and her took catra prisoner. when catra threw herself and bo off a cliff.
Both times they ended up falling, so maybe she didn’t have time to react?
@@imp360 oh ok thank you
@@Strawberrymilkshake999 interesting thank you
David Brown no problem
There is a reason why Spinnerella and Nettosa were underused and it's very face palm inducing. Basically the person doing Spin's voice claimed to be too busy and they didn't want to separate the couple.
The was Noelle, why make her a voice actress for a heavily advertise character is beyond me. I mean Alex Hirsh has done voices for his own characters too but he's a good voice actor, if Noelle was not that good then why not hire someone else. Replacing voice actor is nothing new. Also, not every couple is 100%, Netossa could just join on missions once in awhile and Spinnerella would be the more care taker for the people or something.
@@fandude666 Yeah hence the face palm, there were simple work arounds like recasting or having Nettosa go on missions without her, cyclones don't seem suited for stealth work. (At least that's what I'm doing for my own reboot.)
That is unprofessional and absurd. What a mess.
@@davidgusquiloor2665 That summs up the whole series.
fandude666 a series of missed opportunities and lack of direction, and instead nothing but useless filler, mostly horrible characters and character development, and the unnecessary amount of shipping
You can TOTALLY tell that shipping is what the writes focus on especially when it comes to Catra/Adora and Hordak/Entrapta. I mean what's NOT suitable how endorsing a ship where one half is abusive physically and emotionally manipulative while the other is a former conqueror who tried to take over the world?
Remember: Steven Universe redeemed space Hitler's. In today's animation, every villian must be redeemed, no matter what they did or have done.
@@Asaylum117 except for Infinity Train who legit kill Simon on screen
This is what i like about Infinity Train they're not afraid to kill their antagonist
@@Asaylum117 that's what happens when people look up to anime like DBZ when it comes to redemption arcs
@@Asaylum117 The simply go too far with the Villains they try to redeem!
The Diamonds stripped Planets of their Ressources for thousands of Years for the creation of an Army that they didn't even need, kidnapped Humans and put them in a Zoo like Animals (something like this actually happened irl in the past!), and fused the corpses of their Soldiers and Enemies together into a giant Super-Weapon just to destroy a Planet they didn't like!
Hordak waged War against Etheria for Decades, drove Scorpias People from their own Kingdom and maybe even killed them all, kidnapped Children to turn them into Soldiers, and undoubtedly hurt thousands.
Catra.....do I really need to count everything bad that Catra did?
Trying to kill everyone just to spite Adora is already horrible enough.
A bond from 10+ years of sharing childhood abuse + Catra selflessly sacrificing herself then dying + Adoras literally a magical Girl that embodies the magic of love = A viable reason to start a redemption arc that leads to a confession of love. Hordak abused by prime to think he was worthless + Entrapta loving imperfections + hordak seeing value in Entrapta even though she's weird + Entrapta basically saves his life = a viable reason for 2 characters to bond. Hordak is mind wiped and basically only remembers Entrapta which brings up an interesting idea of whether he's the same hordak as the one before.
Less shipping, more character development.
Less relationships, more world building.
Less style without substance, more substance with style.
Less antics, more plot development.
Develop, develop, develop.
Be like anime. Look at what a mangaka does, then go even further beyond.
Avatar. Korra. Steven Universe. Voltron LD.
Don't show us your Tumblr page. Show us your Brothers Grimm.
Hahaha. The Brothers Grimm before censorship.
@@sergeybin2390 Yeah. (Actually, The Grimms
themselves did most of the censoring.)
The Thumbnail was Cathartic, but I get the feeling that's as much as Catra receives with all her warm crimes she committed. Dating the hero being the villain has that advantage. (and a typical fanfic plot)
Wrong Hordak is still creepy because we don't know or can tell it's the same on from Etheria, so Entrapta is just falling for someone over looks. The substance of his character doesn't matter. Also, I don't se how anyone could be afraid of Hordak, he rare came out of his room and it was his commanders in charge of the horde. You'd think Adora (and story) would be more concerned with her being seen with Catra the most bloodthirsty of the Horde- but this show doesn't think before stepping let alone a few steps ahead.
Just gonna add to this comment: I would bet the relationship Glimmer has with her subjects is of a tyrant, since the shopkeep cowers in fear of her. This can't be disproven, since the show never showed us.
Maybe it would have worked better if Hordak had personally led his Army in the past, before that Defect forced him to stay in his Lab all day to clone himself a new Body.
Give us a Flashback where Micah and Angella fight as a Team against Hordak. Show us why you should be afraid of that Vampire-Alien Overlord.
If I'm honest, this mostly comes from my Desire to see our supposed big Villain actually do stuff.
We never found out how exactly Micah got "killed", did we?
@@johannesseyfried7933 Because the show's main focus was never the adventure, just the outcome.
They really forgot that Catra was teleported by Glimmer several times when she was captured by Bow and Glimmer
They could only forget if the writers were the same.
@@sergeybin2390 That is no excuse, many shows have a bunch of different writers doesn't have problem with consistency, different writers but the same director, the same creator
@@Mactao100 This means that the showrunner cares about his creation, and the presence of communication between members of the work team.
I doubt this applies to the Nu-Ra crew.
How are not people seeing this so-called ship is *toxic* for a show that requires diversity, abuse, and so much more they just go by people shipping them;did anybody think of "Oh this toxic let's create another ship or just have no ship at all" Like there's so many shows that can have a ship that's not toxic not only ships but relationship (not the love part)
I hear that Catradora is based of Noelle and her wife relationship
@@ValenArtsAnimation Based on what we've seen its more like a cry for help
Plenty of people pointed out how toxic the relationship is. Those people were derided as toxic critics and homophobes.
@@jeangentry6656 I'm literally pansexual and even if somebody is not part of the lgbtq and giving criticism to a show that doesn't mean they're homophobic they're just saying the relationship in a whole is toxic not that they're two woman in a relationship 😒🤦🏾♀🤦🏾♀🤦🏾♀
@@ValenArtsAnimation wait really...wow.... so basically their relationship is toxic too if it's based on their relationship but I don't know is their relationship so I can't say anythin
Oh their following show don't tell because they Show an awful lot of terrible leasbian couples and Don't tell us about Catras warcrimes.
thank you
For me personally I don't mind lgbtq characters whether they're the main character background characters but first show to have this many ships trying to add them all up in one whole season it's just outrageous
@@wackywa76 I know this will sound controversial, but I feel like they cater a bit too much to LGBT to stay relevant.
@@Aego384 I love how they wanna be relevant and progressive but lgbt and poc are the main they cater and actually don’t cater a lot to diversity a lot tbh
They're only warcrimes if your side loses ;)
5:11
"Catra wants to buy properties"
With what money? She is basically homeless, unless she hid some cash somewhere in case this whole "horde leader" thing doesn't work out but I don't think she is smart enough to do that...
I thought that too.
Maybe she put aside some of the war spoils? Because I can't imagine Catra actually working. Maybe as some Mercenary.
Whether or not Catra does work or have money or not, I don't think that they ever touched upon currency
The shopkeeper girl didn't pay taxes, which means she didn't support Glitter's pajama parties, which makes her an enemy of the state.
I find The Mushroom Shopkeeper's design rather cute.
6:47
Me too!
She's very cute.
But it looks like she has a lump of dough on her head.
The way the writers executed Catra's redemption makes no sense at all. Like you said, look at how they treated Scorpia!! I like this show, but I can't just look past this, this is ridiculous. It's like the writers stopped taking their show seriously. The writers probably know how ridiculous it is, but they just desperately want to ship Adora and Catra so they value ships more than story and characters.
Why was this show called She-Ra again? It's okay to have She-Ra be the star of her own show. Really!
The title of the show is actually, She-Ra AND the Princesses of Power. And if you haven’t been paying attention, there is and has been more than one She-Ra, legendary warrior, we’ve seen two, Adora and Mara, but there are even more, it’s like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, one dies, and another gets called up. Ever heard of Jem? Garfield? Mickey Mouse Clubhouse? What’s ur problem?
@@crystalraf She-Ra/Adora is still the primary character who the audience is supposed to be following (aka the protagonist). The show's writing isn't treating her the way it should.
@@crystalraf except Adora/She-Ra is still the main protagonist. Yet this show doesn't treat her as such
@@crystalraf The problem is that Adora is the worst female protagonist than Ruby Rose. Adora is seen as less important than Catra and Glimmer. She's not a paragon character because she barely does anything to advance the plot. This show is supposed to be about her, hence the name *_She ra_* and the Princesses of Power. More like powerless if you ask me......
@@Saltedroastedcaramel Gayflix Sh*tWorks Nu-Ra and high school lesbian drama.
According to the Writers, that weird genetic Defect is the reason why Hordak can't be mind controlled so easily.
So he doesn't even get to resist the Brainwashing through his own Strength!
That is a good Question: Why DID Horde Prime accept Hordak back into his Army? He presumably still has than Gene-Defect, and Prime couldn't have healed it, because if he *could* he didn't need to banish Hordak in the first place!
No matter how I look at this, it just doesn't make Sense. 😣😡
And....wait! Didn't Entrapta build him his new Armor to ease the pain he was in?
He's just wearing Robes now, so shouldn't he be in immense pain again?
I actually enjoyed Nettossa and Spinnerella this Season. They start to feel like real Characters!
It isn't much and way too late, but I take what I can get at this point.
If Hordak was a defect why banish him instead of destroying or imprisoning him? Seems like a big liability.
Maybe after the banishment of Hordak Prime changed his body and the memory of the problem with Hordak remained in another body?
@@CoolG97 He did say that everyone has a Place in his Empire, but Hordak still is a defect Clone.
Why would somebody so obsessed with Purity and Perfection keep a Clone around that's imperfect?
And thanks to the Writers we KNOW that he's still defect, otherwise Hordak couldn't resist the Mindcontrol.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Yeah big oversight on Horde Prime's part
"This clone doesn't completely conform and could be a problem down the road...oh well just kick him out into the galaxy with a few ships and hope he doesn't turn vengeful."
Heck just stuff Hordak into a coffin, send him into the Despondos hoping it would bury the shame and have Hordak wake up on Etheria thinking it's a mission, that would make way more sense.
@@johannesseyfried7933
Just for fun, I head-canon that Horde Prime used some of his own brother's DNA for the clone troopers and more of his own to make replacement bodies for himself. Which is where the brother thing comes from, because they are technically his brothers.
"guys! maybe & hear me out, Hittler would have been super chill if only he have had an alternative girl!"
-Noel Stevenson, probably.
Um, but Hitler had a wife.
@@sergeybin2390 He also was pining after some other Lady in his youth if I remember correctly, and apparently wrote Letters for her that he never sent.
The poor Woman was deeply uncomfortable when she found out about that.
Imagine if Hitler is in love with you! How....how would you even react to that?!
@@johannesseyfried7933 I am a Slav, I am very biased in this question.
@@sergeybin2390 I did some research. Apparently the Woman's name was Stefanie Rabatsch.
Their entire "Relationship" was in Hitlers Head because all he ever did was looking at her from a distance.
She didn't even know he existed.
@@sergeybin2390 oh sh*t I forgot, but... Was Eva Brown an alternative girl tho? 😏🙃😅
You know, if this wasn't the last season and they weren't obviously rushing the developement they refused to write in favor of filler i could at least say they had good pacing.
But the writting and pacing are bad, and what's worse is that they had the chance to plan the whole series and decided to wing it.
Winging it like Adora and her friends?
@@HappyGoof4 Adora and her friends are cartoon teenagers. The writers of the show are full grown adults who have a job. In no way should you ever "Wing it" When writing a show, it's never a good thing.
@@withmymindandmyimagination844 That is the joke.
@@HappyGoof4 Oh lmao, sorry I'm to good with differentiating
With my Mind And My Imagination It’s all good. Enjoy your day!
Once again it sounds like the best praises that can be given to this show are muddled due to the sloppy writing. The writers cared so much about their precious ships of Catra/Adora and Hoardac/Entrapta that they didn't bother to write in good stories to make the audience, and the other characters, accept it. It's just a case of "because the plot/writers said so," which is writing at its laziest.
Excellent thumbail.
That thumbnail is soo satisfying
Nothing is more satisfying than seeing Catra get punched in the Face.
Except maybe Cozy Glow getting hit by that Avalanche. That was also very satisfying.
Yes the power of shipping. It heals all wounds and resolves you of any guilt.
You keep using words like “show don’t tell” or “character development” or “story” like they’re important, or something. And you keep using “shipping” like it isn’t the entire reason for a series like this to exist! Seriously, all you need to know is that Adora and Katra KISS, ON SCREEN! in the final episode to know that this is the GREATEST SERIES EVAR!!!
Close sarcasm tag, the people who wrote this show have an entirely different definition of “good series”.
I can't help but feel like entertainment in general has been steadily getting more and more dumbed down with each passing generation, from comic books making heroes seem ever more straddle the line between being an anti-hero to outright villain with some anti-villain mindset, to video games overreaching and overhyping themselves on morally amibiguous plotlines that have to constantly fight with the demand for better graphics and marketability, to cartoons having overly forgiving and essentially neutured main characters, unless any of the above happen to feature a woman/minority, then they tend to be overly-cringy hyper-competent and overall boring characters whose only flaw is that they are too good to not hold themselves back.
The worst part? This is what the next generation will have as the bench-setter, cause TV's gonna die the slow death and you can bet if any copies of anything remotely decent still exists after 2050, it'll likely be stored away on a subscription streaming site (assuming we don't just jump to competent VR and suffer massive depopulation) and not everyone gonna be lucky enough to maybe stumble upon a half-decent show from the early 2000's they probably never even knew existed.
@@DigitalGame18 do you really think that humanity will live to 2050?
@@DigitalGame18 first there will be a slide into the dark era of the entertainment industry, then stagnation, and then there will be a Renaissance.
@@DigitalGame18 I thought I was the only who was thinking the same thing?
@@sergeybin2390 Circle of life, bro
Y’all hit the nail on the coffin for me, SHE-RA : A SHOW OF MISSED OPPORTUNITIES, I know they don’t have a lot of time between episodes but why skip over what could’ve been cool character interactions? Or Address the Fact that catra almost killed the ENTIRE UNIVERSE(or reality) , glimmer is cool with it and the fact her mom had to sacrifice herself to fix the mess catra caused, makes no sense why Glimmer didn’t get more time to learn to trust catra or spend more time with her dad who was presumed dead. I like she-ra I just wish the writing was just a little bit better
It wasn't exactly the entire Universe- Etheria was still stuck in that Prison Dimension.
Still, almost destroying the Planet is bad enough.
Johannes Seyfried oh yeah you’re right, but to skip over that was such a bad call, that’s some rich drama , but no one to my knowledge actually calls catra out on that
@@johannesseyfried7933 Catra almost devastate Despondos.
@@sergeybin2390 The Dimension itself was "luckily completely empty except for Etheria and its Moons. And the Sun.
Wait. Are there other Planets in the Etheria System? I hope not, because without the Sun they undoubtedly froze over.
@@johannesseyfried7933 There was the sun? I thought it was one of the moons that was shining.
So Glimmer thinks that because she and the Alliance are mostly royalty that means her subjects should automatically trust and respect her even at the cost of their lives? Sorry, but that sounds more like a tyrant to me. If the show focused on the Princesses actually being decent leaders and interacting with their subjects (except Perfuma, though she’s not really a tale charge type), then it could have been a cool plot thread of underground rebellions that could parallel the space rebellions. Then raise the stakes of the Alliance choosing whether to strike a blow to their enemies or protect their people.
But no!! None of that pesky world building stuff. Straight to bad jokes and shipping.
I will reiterate this: Queen Poppy is a better queen than Glimmer!! Selfless, personable, knowledgable, resourceful, kind, loving, considerate, can fight and plan, and learns from her mistakes! She helps when she can, raises spirits, and makes sure every feels appreciated. Give Poppy, the Snack Pack, and the other Troll genres Etheria and things will actually turn out great for the Etherians and Horde Prime will no longer be a threat.
Even Barb with her World Tour domination is a better leader, and is actually competent as a would be conquerer (cough Hordak cough). Why does this show like to represent competent females way less than Trolls? Just why?
Civilians getting caught in the crossfire between the Rebellion and the Horde was actually a recurring thing in the original series. The Horde would steal food and raid villages just on the rumor that they were helping the rebels.
There actually were Trolls in the old Show. Imagine if this tiny Creature with the Mohawk suddenly showed up and crushed everyone with her Rock Music! 😂
"LISTEN UP, PEOPLE! I'M QUEEN BARB OF THE SPACE-ROCK TROLLS, AND I WILL DEFEAT THE HORDE WITH THE POWER OF MY MUSIC!"
@@johannesseyfried7933 Now I'm imagine the cool Rock People from the original!
@Gaby Droz That for sure wouldn’t surprise me. World building seemed like a much bigger thing with older cartoon, and war naturally lends itself to cool action and character scenes like that. Think it also “helped” that the last open war was WW2, with a bunch of vets from WW1 still around plus the general desire for good to kick evils butt. A lot of inspiration and passion that this show doesn’t have cause “lolz! Ships!”
Avatar:The Last Airbender is also great at showing the civilian front of the 100 year War, on both sides with good, bad, and gray everywhere. Man I love that show.
@Johannes Seyfried Dude, don’t tempt me to write a fanfic about this 😂 Trolls have wormholes, magic gems, and wacky physics so it could totally work out that they could end up on Etheria! Maybe Troll songs have a latent magic based on the strings that could have disrupted Despondos and created small portals that the Trolls could have gone through. Add in Madam Razz as the kooky old forest woman who is the only one that knows of this and watch the ensuring chaos.
Barb would totally be ready for battle and Poppy would go for peace til she seeS the way they treat Kyle. Then her nice hair tie comes off and Etheria finds themselves under the command of tiny musical creatures with strange hair.
The name Wrong Hordak is like Adora's jacket, one for the entire series.
Me: *looks at thumbnail*
My mind: You get what you fucking deserve!
Hordak was soooo underused and unceremoniously discarded in S5.
Robotnik left a bigger impact in 2 seasons of Sonic satam than Hordak did in 5 seasons of She Ra
@@jamesporter571 What's satam?
@@johannesseyfried7933 it's supposed to stand for Saturday Morning (AM) it's a weird nickname from the fans
@@jamesporter571 Thanks.
Yeah, it's sad what they did to Hordak.
He never achieved anything.
Cloning a new Body? Failed!
Killing Catra? Failed!
Breaking free of the Brainwashing? Failed, because according to the Writers his Defect makes him difficult to control.
Even when he kills Horde Prime he doesn't win!
@@johannesseyfried7933 yeah I mean I know 80's Hordak was a bit of a goofball but even he had more success than the new one
It's amazing the amount of wasted potential this show had. If it had been even OK it would have had steven universe level of appeal.
Yeah, though Steven universe has it's problems too. Including wasted potential. But from what I'm seeing this show is somehow worse.
@@greendecepticon6148 She ra is Steven Universe's wasted potential plus less episodes, too much references than needed from outside material, lobbed off material since She ra is only half of the Masters of the Universe, and spite. *_A lot of SPITE._*
At least Steven Universe showed a good example of how bad a toxic relationship can be regardless of the couple's genders! Shippers needs to stop supporting toxic relationships with terrible writing especially when it comes to lgbt characters! Don't people feel this trend might be sending the wrong message about the lgbt community and how a healthy relationships works in general?
Just imagine how toxic relationships might impress kids who witness and experience domestic violence.
I hope this show doesn't get a sequel series. They'll just botch it like they did with this series.
Mattel does not want their property to turn into lesbian fantasy so they will not say "okay."
The Fans apparently really want a Movie.
I hope they don't get it.
Yeah, it's mean, but that way, hopefully everyone will soon forget this Thing.
I doubt it however.
@@johannesseyfried7933 i feel like the fan only want a movie for more Catradora content
@@johannesseyfried7933
Not going to happen If it had been a massive success across the board then dreamworks, Mattel and Netflix might have some interest in it. Since that did not happen, unless serious cash gets into it to buy the parties that are not willing.
@@ValenArtsAnimation When I went on Twitter, most of the fans were talking about how they wanted more Catradora content, not continuing the story.
Hey guys, I don’t know if you guys have the time, but can you review The Owl House?
I can't wait until M and J lose their minds with the number of times Luz takes magical items without asking.
unlimitedrabbit that’s if they even review it
Isn't it focused on shipping as well?
@@Nutmeg- it does have shipping moments, especially the Prom episode and Wing like witches, but not the as bad as she ra's
I'm curious about how they might react to that show next too or Amphibia.
The thumbnail...happened?
The thumbnail happened!
*THE THUMBNAIL HAPPENED!!!*
It happened.
And it was SO deserved!
Too bad Hordak never got to hit her.
Also, props to the show writers for leaving Kyle tf alone!! I'm hoping they forget about him and we get to write fics about his happily ever after!!!
According to Noelle, he is now in a Poly-Relationship with Rogelio and Lonnie.
Which is weird for more reasons than you might think.
I get Kyle x Rogelio. Well, I don't get the appeal, but I understand that the Writers ship it.
But why did Noelle put Lonnie in there too?
@@johannesseyfried7933 Because of shipping mindset. Characters can't just be friends, enemies, or anything other than lovers.
@@johannesseyfried7933 I personally find it freaky, it reeks of bestiality. Can't they simply be friends? I think that is all he would need, good friends, acknowledgement and support.
@@Tekaneable I wouldn't go so far as to call it Beastiality....Rogelio is, after all an intelligent Being, capable of Speech and higher Thought.
Or would Catradora count as Beastiality to you as well?
@@johannesseyfried7933 No, because she has a human face. Rogelio has reptilian face and other features hence why it's very "eeek" to me. But Catra is not really partner matrial either.
9:43 it's the power of shipping wars.
I've lost too many good friends because of the shipping wars. 😢
Kelvin Shubert I’m sorry for your loss
@@JoseHernandez-xv2bt I still get PTSD from the Battle of Fairy Tail
Kelvin Shubert what happened in that battle?
@@JoseHernandez-xv2bt Too many ships were surrounding us all at once, there was more focus on them than the story.
It’s a poorly written, poorly thought-out story.
So the show in general
Just Poor.
honestly, just, YES, it feels like fanfiction lev- No, worse than fanfiction, I've read much better fanfiction
@@gliscaradu1424 same.
Yeah People are saying Catra’s redemption arc was on par with ZUKO’s. Way too much credit to be matched to that tier.
Honestly now after thinking about it Her redemption arc was more fuel with too much shipping fuel. Now it’s making me kinda angry about her being practically too easily forgiven. Adora I could sort of take (though even she can’t understand Catra’s motives) but Glimmer? Bow? The other princesses in general is too much. Though Frosta at least punched Catra and that was cathartic and Perfuma does tell she’s basically been a shitty friend.
the only thing i liked was the mushroom shopkeeper's design and frosta punching catra the rest of this episode along with the series as a whole is a dumpster fire. this show was nothing but useless filler and toxic shipping like catadora getting praised like its something good.
Is it just me or is this season slowly driving the Tanners to drop more and more little, snarky comments? Could it be that the Try-harder-for-victory-squad is nibbling at their patience? Good... good... let the sarcasm flow through you...
Honestly, snarky Siblings are the best Siblings. 😊
When you finally get screen time after 4 season
And it's in the second half of the final season
*Looks at thumbnail*
Catra deserves alot worse in my opinion....
Dark Knight like a paddle meeting her posterior.
@@peterkrochmalni673 No, that's too kinky. If we aren't careful, she might actually enjoy it.
But she could start with rebuilding some of the Houses the Horde destroyed....
1:05 I'm kind of tired of Сatra's ears constantly changing their position on head.
But I have to agree, she looks cute in this shot. But still #Catraispieceofgarbage
The next day, the village was burned to the ground.
In this video's thumbnail, Frosta is me, and Catra is every sjw project ever.
15:21 2020 gave us Fat Geralt punching..Asian kid with a bow and now Tiny Korra Punching Domestic Abuse Catra.
For all it's faults 2020 at least gave us somethings worthwhile.
Frosta: "I'M YOUR PRINCESS NOW! AND YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!"
@@johannesseyfried7933 I wonder if the E;R can hear it.
@@sergeybin2390 Now I want E.R to make a Video about She-Ra.
And maybe Lily Orchard too.
I don't like her, but she does bring up some good Points from time to time.
this series never fails to show me how much of a better writer my friends and I are compared to the bullshit this show put out as a story... if we can even call it that....
No, we can't.
Catra getting punched was great.
That's the best thing that happen in this episode
One of the best Things that happened in the Show.
And I can count all the Things I enjoyed in the Reboot on one Hand. Maybe two.
Hey M and J. Got a parody collaboration idea for you two.
Ken burns presents:
The Shipping Wars
A documentary of the wars between the main story and pointless relationships.
Music by Sabaton.
Somewhere Jacksepticeye is saying, “Stop winking!”
This is probably an unpopular opinion, given the comments I've seen, but I feel like the way the characters react in season 5 is consistent with the overall way the show has handled the war on Etheria. The war has been used primarily as a backdrop and is only ever taken seriously in certain dramatic moments. We don't really see the true effect it has on the planet or the people, even what kind of loss of life may have happened. Heck, when Mermista loses her kingdom, she sulks with ice cream. It's hard to take the war seriously when that's how a monarch deals with her kingdom being under siege.
Compare this with Avatar; the Last Airbender, which actually shows some of the horrors of war. AtLA explores the consequences of those kinds of conflicts (death, loss of culture, prison camps, crippling injuries, etc), whereas with SPoP, the war is more of a backdrop that is seen in a lot of fantasy series, with barely any loss of life or permanent consequences.
I'm not trying to argue that SPoP's final season was perfect -- it's not. One of my biggest disappointments was how everyone seemed to forget about Angella. Disregarding Catra's vague war crimes that we don't know the details of, we know her actions resulted in the loss of Angella, and no one says a word about it. Glimmer doesn't say a word about it. That's just wrong.
As an aside, I don't think it's necessary to be invested in Entrapdak to empathize with Hordak. He was left to die because of a disability he can't help, and was so brainwashed by his upbringing that he wasted his existence on the shred of hope the person that threw him away would find him worthy. For those who think Hordak could have simply chosen to live a new life when he was stranded on Etheria, I will say this --- cult deprograming is NOT easy. It's not something people just shrug off. Those kinds of things can haunt you for the rest of your life, even with a support network of people to help you (which Hordak did not have, and Wrong Hordak clearly does -- plus WH doesn't have many memories to get in the way of his new experiences). I'm not saying these things justify his actions. Hordak should absolutely be held accountable for the damage he has done to Etheria and its people. However, I don't think those actions render him unsympathetic.
Well this is the earliest I’ve ever been for any video... success 😌
you're first lol
KittyKraze
For some reason whenever I’m first for a video I never do it on purpose. Neither do I have my notifications on, I just happen to be on TH-cam at the right moment at the right time 😂 no but seriously this is the most success I’ve ever felt
Wait
Couldn't prime just make Michael activate the hearth of etheria since he can use magic to
shelby MD see that would require them to actually plan out what their doing, which they clearly can’t do
I think only She-Ra can really activate it.
@@johannesseyfried7933 but glimmer activated it with magic
@@natto4now Did she? I don't remember everything from S4.
Wasn't She-Ra supposed to be basically the Trigger to this Planetsized Gun?
@@johannesseyfried7933 basically she ra has powerfull magic enough to activate the heart
But glimmer did it cause she acceded powerful magic
"well, usually property is a good investment" 😂😂😂
Showing how powerfull Spinerale is right now only makes season 1 treat meant look iven worse.
You think this episode proves Nets was underused? Wait till the next one, you'll be bashing your head on a wall with the continued piss poor character usage.
If only Netossa didn't get sideline in S1-4 then the princess would be able to defeat Catra alot sooner
I just realized you really only need Mermista and Netossa to beat Catra
@@kittykraze2898 Hordak: "Really? A Net and some Water was all it took to defeat this Girl?
I'm gonna find a Volcano and jump in. This is too embarrassing!"
@@johannesseyfried7933 "With Catra. If i go down, she's with me."
Nothing is stronger than the power of shipping. :P
Also... the Rebellion isn't staying in that village, so shouldn't they be concerned that advertising that it's no longer under Horde control might invite reprisals?
No. Our heroines don't care about civilians.
That punch was very satisfying.
3:25 Why is wrong Hordak doing that uguu kawaii weaboo early 2000s winky face instead of just normally messing up winking like everyone else.
Do they want to ship him with Entrapta now?
Edit: How is the writing so inconsequential?!?! The clones communicate through the chip kinda, wrong Hordak doesn't have the chip, yet the Horde never questions it???? Or was that dropped? And how old does the Horde get, like what agr is Hordak. Shouldn't he be dead if he ages and Etheria has been shit off from the Universe for God knows how long?????
"Well property is a good investment "
5:16
😂😂
Frosty Knockout
The virgin Nu-Ra Hordak vs The chad IDW Megatron
Both of you feeling Ok?
This show would at least hold my attention. But completely lost it in season 5
It's a shame Zamber liked this show so much, you don't need to be a fan of the orginal to see this show is poorly written tumblr bait wearing another shows skin.
We lost yet another TH-camr to the lure of lesbian Catgirls. Such a shame. 😞
I haven't watched her for at least two Years. What was Zambers Opinion on the Star vs Finale?
I vaguely remember that she made Reactions to that.
@@johannesseyfried7933 she was not happy with the finale, she was disappointed as the rest of us.
@@cartoonking1895 Good, that means she isn't completely lost.
10:15 Someone very much does not know how to place the eyes on the face.
the eyes are drawn so terribly
Also Frosta face at 14:27 look Soo weird
@@ValenArtsAnimation The angle of the eyes is too large, the distance between them is too large.
@@ValenArtsAnimation The combo face and squat makes it so funny
This is not a good way to tell a story.
8:37 to 9:04 YESSSSS, seriously, im so pissed at that fact
Wait, so Frosta is okay with wrong Hordak being in the camp when checking for chips but not okay with Catra being there with them and straight up punches her but not him!?!?!? The fuck kind of logic is that!?!?!? Did the writers for this show not even think about that in the first place!?!?!? WTF!?!?!?
The writer must've been high when writing this episode
@@ValenArtsAnimation The writers were high for the entire series.
I just watched your review on season 3 episode 1 when this vid showed up in my feed
Digimon Adventure 2020 stomps all over this show as a reboot or just as a tv series in general so far.
How so?
At least i this episode adora show her worries with the people of the town you know more like a hero should
Edit: *in
I can't get over how much I hate the art on this show, the more I look the messier it seems.
It was possible to enter the city under the cloak of Katra's brand new pet.
I thought that too. Why didn't they just use the only Power that Melog has?
Its sad how they treat such a potentially interesting Character.
If you work in a visual medium and choose to exposit instead of demonstrate, you're wasting not only your own time but the viewers.
Show Don't Tell is a lesson learned by talented writers, so of course we get exposition everywhere im this atrocity of animation.
At least you are almost done & over with it girls. This show is a stain that should be wiped away.
Why Mushroom people?
This is a tribute to the mushrooms that the creators of Nu-Ra used when writing the script.
Because the Mushroom Kingdom is now canonically on the Planet of Etheria.
Peach just never got invited into the Rebellion, because she was too busy getting kidnapped by Bowser.
Ya Glad whatever this show was is almost done .Looking at it all see is bla bla almost every girl lesbian bla magic bla bla more fighting
15:10 The right side of Katra's jaws is smashed to chips.
okay, shitty shipping question, but who does wrong wrong hordak end up with?
Emely
@@sergeybin2390 he does?
@@sergeybin2390 i might have missed it somewhere, or was it confirmed after
@@kittykraze2898 Caught you
@@sergeybin2390 ?
I find it interesting how whenever a video has a certain take, the comments almost always side with it. I'm not saying that's bad. It's just something I've noticed. When I see a positive video about she-ra, the comments praise the show. Whenever I a negative review of the same show, the comments dislike the show.
People have already divided into: those who love this show and only watch positive video about it, and those who do not like the show and watch videos with criticism of it.
@@sergeybin2390 I'm kind of an in-between. Since I thought the show was good the first time I watched it, but I enjoy watching both positive and negative videos of it. Currently anyways.
I'm glad that you pointed this one out! :) I've also noticed and felt that same way about video takes on shows and movies all of the time. A lot of comment sections are pretty much echo chambers for videos that made a positive or negative review/analysis of a show.
Now when someone is indifferent or feels conflicted about a show, it would be hard to go against the grain with an opinion in either a mostly positive or negative comment section (without getting attacked). So my feelings for the She-Ra reboot are 'meh,' heavy-handled, and full of wasted potentials, but I would consider it somewhat inoffensive too. I also never care much for the original She-Ra, but didn't think it was all that bad as detractors made it out to be either. I still disapprove how disrespectful the reboot showrunners (and media outlets) were being towards the 80s cartoon, its dead co-creator, and its fanbase.
With this reboot, some people are just deliberately bias with how much they love or hate the show for the most superficial reasons. Some of those people are also easily divided into the SJW or anti-SJW camps, which is scary. But I like how M and J actually offer constructive criticism with this reboot unlike most negative videos I've seen. And the comment sections for their She-Ra videos have been mostly civil with little to no name-calling or conspiracy theories going around too.
@@sunspotmill1291 Thanks for your response. I'm glad you agree with me! I thought the show was good, because I found some of drama good and could attach to a few of the characters. There's a lot of flaws in the show that I didn't noticed when I first watched it.
@@sunspotmill1291 The sad fact about SJWs and anti-SJWs is that they're also predictable. For example, I was on Toxic Fandom, going to read about Hazbin Hotel, and I knew who would have sided with the Fandom or the Hatedom before I even began to read.
This makes them also easier to manipulate, as it showed with the first old controversy about this show long ago.
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I feel like maybe wrong hordak is suppoused to show the conditioning that OUR hordak had gone through? wrong hordakis innocentjust asoriginal hordakstarted out...but urhordak wasproperlyraised byhordprimeand the collective...whilewrog ordak was taken away from that condiioning pretty early on in his creation. wrong hordak is similarto adorain thebegining who thought the hord were the good guys. and we see ven seperaed from the hord aaearly levellikewrong hordak was...the conditioning was strong.
so I think they were trying to use wrong hordak to show that Hordak wasthe wa he was due o howhe was raised in thecollective.and since even the maun group struggled with thechips...it gives a interesing picture of how hordak probably started out. andow thegood was only if it helped serve prime. andeven while seperatedfrom prime hehad still donehis best to try to get back to primeandry to gain hisfavor...much likehow wrong horddak often did things when itcame toprime as his motivation.
ifyoulookat it fromthatperspectiveit make wrong hordak more interesting becauseit givesaimpression of how hordak was like when he was younger and that might helpincrease atleast somedevelopmentin ourhordakandowweview him.
that saidit doesn't realy change all the war crimesand how errible a person he is and we don;t actually see HIM properly work through things
Ok, I think Wrong Hordak's role is to actually show that clones are NOT the same, as Horde Prime intended. You can't really mistake Hordak with Wrongdak here, if you compare them to each other. And it also show that they not all evil, most of them just belive that Horde Prime wants their good. But is base on expiriance of someone else then Hordak, so it's yet another point of view. You can guess that Hordak was as lost as Wrongdak, at first, but I doubt that he would do the same as him. That's why this character even if he is comic relife is important to the story and Hordak's development. It's shows that it's the choices you made decide who you are, not genetics.
Well that's all well and good to try and show but.... all of horde primes soldiers ARE literally clones,.
They are genetically the same with presumably the same experiences as servants and foot soldiers and even the same mindset thanks to the chips. Even if we do allow the idea that its just a matter of circumstance, its basically irrelevant plot point anyways since the final episode has them all killed off except for hordak.
Its like how Finn went from a traumatized, brainwashed child soldier to a traitor that mows down hundreds of his fellow troopers, people he' likely known all his life and are probably just as brainwashed as he supposedly was with the plot giving nary a thought to actually developing that part of his character.
But getting back to your examples, even cut off from horde primes influence and being left alone for an indeterminate amount of time, Hordak still ultimately chose to conquer and enslave the scoprion people, recruit and train an army of child soldiers (which he presumably kidnapped) and wage war across an entire planet solely for the purpose of getting resources to contact horde prime and get back to his fold again.
With Wrong-Hordak, it seems less a matter of circumstances and more an issue of dumb luck as he comes off as half-baked and not very bright to begin with. Consider it took little to convince him our 'heroes' were on horde primes side despite the other lones being clearly aggressive to them, and him running off with them, then the first bit of evidence he finds that horde prime isn't perfect practically deprograms him entirely, it all just comes off as a lot of silly contrivances and rush job with the plot. Not to mention the only reason why he and hordak even have these storylines is to push out a ship tease, which in itself was already brought a heap of problems for this show. It just comes off as dumb luck instead of natural pacing.
Wait... are we stealing the whole Clone Wars kerfuffle with most of the clones, including Captain Rex, Fives, etc.?
@@DigitalGame18 "Oh but Hordak was just a confused Cult-Member who knew nothing but conquering!"
The Reboot-Fans probably.
@@johannesseyfried7933
Hordak:"Oh no, I would totally still be evil. If the roles were reversed, this conversation would never happen. You be dead, and I would laughing. Ha Ha Ha Ha....it hurts to laugh."
And the sad thing is Hordak before S5 was still one of the better DreamWorks Villains for he
still felt like somewhat of a Global threat unlike HTTYD 3's villain Grimmel who they
say is an Global Level threat but really did nothing but threaten the life of
Hiccups Dragon and light a few building on fire.
Having Wrong Hordak be an add on comic relief is like questioning why Dean felt
he needed to add a bunch of immature comedy instead of some more
serious drama/conflict in his last film.
The biggest stinker being the new Jurassic Park cartoon somehow treated it's audience
more seriously than either the She-rah or How to Train Your Dragon finale!
'Why couldn't those shows up an PG rating like the later?'
I think Grimmel was still kinda cool, but he isn't anywhere near the Level of Drago Bloodfist or Vigo Grimborn.
Wait. There is a Jurassic Park cartoon?
@@johannesseyfried7933 Yes.
DreamWorks Universal, and
Amblin entertainment
made an Jurassic Park "Kids"
cartoon for Netflix.
Starting out I thought it was
pretty terrible but later it
got much more intense
and perilous than
I thought it'd be.
It seemed to realize that
kids could handle more
than some other
shows I've seen on
the platform.
It softened a certain blow
at the finale but still.
What bothers me the most
about Grimmel and what
makes him not as good
as the two you mentioned
is he's simply put not
an original character.
We've already seen examples
of Anti-Hiccups in the
form of Daggur, Vigo, Krogan
and Alvin +Yohan, so when
Grimmel arrives he feels more
like yet another
Saturday morning Cartoon
villain as supposed to
a real threat.
Doesn't help that Vigo was
a much, much better
written character
overall.
How'd he felt like a threat when the show barely used him and he got taken down by plot armor?
Third.
I think the REAL question everyone is wondering is: What happened to Hordak’s clone/imp son??? And DO NOT tell me that Rogelio and Kyle adopted the imp, because they HAD A BABY, or they found a different baby imp newborn age and adopted it, Hordaks’s imp was around the 5-12 or teenage age of maturation.
I think that actually was supposed to be Imp who Rogelio was carrying.
I have no Idea why, because Imp can walk and fly on his own.
@@johannesseyfried7933 They kidnapped Imp to become part of their crazy family. Just like in those horror or slasher movies!