My sister you have spoken well by trying to balance your views about the two nations. However, you got it wrong when you said that when you are an immigrants in another country your hustling is hard in order to succeed, so the South Africans are at home and need not hustle to better their lives. This is not true of Nigerians, the average Nigerian hustle is in Nigeria as much as he hustles in diaspora. The South African waits for their government to provide everything for them, but Nigerians work hard for themselves without the Government. Please do not say that Nigerians are loud, that is a derogatory word to use because to Nigerians too other nations are loud in the way that they speak which sounds weird and strange pronunciation of words. The fact is that Nigerians DONT believe that there is anything that can inhibit their desire to succeed and can face any challenge head-on.
thank you very much for your comment! I agree my delivery could've been more specific. I do believe in the point I was trying to make tho. Here take-2: 1. typically (emphasis on typically therefore not all ppl or all the time), the hustle you see from an immigrant vs a local will be different. I don't see this as a bad thing or a good thing, but simply what it is because of different motivating factors. 2. There are characteristics Nigerians will have which I personally believe stem from the dynamic of the environment they come from. You kindly mentioned 1 example truth/factor in that, Nigerians don't get government benefits/handouts - or at least I'm not aware of an official benefit structure. 3. "Nigerias are loud" - if we paused on the sensitivity around the word (which I fully acknowledge but bear with me whilst I make my point), typically the energy in a Nigerian brings to the table is very different, especially when compared to the southern parts of Africa, which is the focus in this video. When I personally say Nigerians are loud I'm not talking about turn of voice alone. A Nigerian is loud in their command, decisions, confidence and their risk appetite. It has been used as a derogatory term but that is not my intentions here whatsoever. In my video I did not make this to be a bad or a good thing, it is what it is from my pov. Your last sentence is beautiful! I really believe this is the mindset we should all embody for every/any situation. This is not to say that there aren’t individuals already doing so, but we need more of this energy and we need it as a collective front🫶🏾"
@@withOhleen thank you my dear sister, for your comments. I truly appreciate your open mind. My comments were not meant to attack you but a critical view of your analyses. I remembered very clearly that Zimbabawe formerly called Rhodesia was deeply skewed in apartheid rule under Cecil Rhodes assisted by the apartheid South Africa. Not until Mr Ian Smith stubbornly called the bluff of South Africa apartheid government by making a Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI) thereby extricated Zimbabwe from the yokes of South Apartheid. Robert Mugabe, Joshua Nkomo and Abel Muzorewa were the fighters against the Ian Smith apartheid government. When in 1980 , Rhodesia gained independence, and the name changed to Zimbabwe, the Zimbabwean young men and women DID NOT fold their hands in laziness waiting for Robert Mugabe new government to serve them every of their needs. They rose to the occassion by taking the bull by the horn. Nigerians came to Zimbabwe, the question was "why did the Zimbabweans not accuse Nigerians and or other Africa nationals who came to New nation of being their problem? Zimbabweans saw Nigerians energy, motivation, zeal and desire for excellence and push forward along. Forget that America saw the great potential of Zimbabwe and imposed a crippling economic sanctions but Zimbabwe survived. Angola and Namibia all went through apartheid but none falsely accused any other African nationals who came to their country of committing crime in order to justify their dormant behaviour and barrenness of knowledge. It is only a lazy person who blames a hard working intellectual for his/her failures and this is the characteristics of these South African social media attackers. I gave Zimbabwe, Angola and Namibia as clear examples for these South Africans to stand up on their feet and move on but stop these baseless accusations of foreigners committing offences of which they the South Africans are the Kingpins. Please my dear, watch and listen to the documentary titled "South Africa a Gansgter Paradise and also read the their government report or just hear their Security Chief give a brief on High Profile Ctime involving (1)Highway robbery (2) Bank robbery (3) Car hyjacking (4) sex offences - Rape (5) Drug dealing or what they South Africans called Powder emphasising that 77% of these crimes are committed by South Africans themselves not foreigners. No Nigerian was mentioned in any manner. My point here is that these angry South Africans are simply blaming outsiders to cover up their inability to think out of the box ie on the spur of the moment and rise above apartheid. Zimbabweans did it with the first 15 to 20 years of becoming independent until wicked America placed economic sanctions on her.
@@withOhleenchidima her both parents are not South African, her father is Nigerian and mother Mozambique while Trevor Noah his mother is South African and his father is Swiss. So the lady is not South African but born and grew up in South Africa.
@@pako4926…Trevor Noah is my Dadobawo’s first son, so he’s my cousin. If I’m a recognised citizen of South Africa 🇿🇦, then obviously he’ll be recognised as a South African 🇿🇦 because we come from the same family. He doesn’t compare to Chidinma in that sense. Our family has been in South Africa 🇿🇦 for over 6 generations according to our family history.
Nigeria literally imposes itself on SA. And you are right, we still need to deal with our apartheid traumas. Therefore, Nigerians need to give us some space to breathe and heal.
Impose!? How? Are they in any capacity of governance in SA? Do they compel you by force under any threats to your life to agree with them? What you call imposition is appealing to your conscience to kind of make you see reason with them even though sounding authoritatively. Go and get lessons from Julius Malema
Give us space because niyadina. There’s a reason why Julius Malema’s party performed horribly in these past elections. South Africans are not going to allow “open boarders”, not after fighting apartheid within our borders ourselves. African countries like Nigeria had spies and collaborators with UK during apartheid- Especially the folks who were so desperate to have their own state (Hello Biafra). Miss me with that” kumbaya - lets unite”, we can only unit on equal footing. And use your energy “by fire by force” to build your own country FFS!
If someone applies to go to South Africa and the goverment allows , tell me one reason why they should not go . I understand that you wouldn't want the illegal migrants who commits all sorts of crimes but what of the ones who just live there ? Are they imposing themselves on you ?
We have been talking about ILLEGAL immigrants. You should come here if you are either visiting, have a work or study visa or strict humanitarian reasons. Not just because you hate Tinumbu.
@@Mini-vz1op Fair enough I myself are against illegal immigrants and people who sell drugs and do crime in South Africa . That should not happen at all .
@@withOhleen South Africans have said again and again said that they don't want you in their country but according to statics the number of Nigerians in SA has moved to over 500 000. Why insist on being unwanted visitors? Please educate us.
Wow... U don't want Nigerian in sa but sa is in Nigeria.. u guyz are small minded and dumb. No wonder d yt (minority) were able to dominate d black(majority) in sa... Mumu people
Exactly. The whole.thing is about Nigerians in South Africa. It is not about South Africans in Nigeria. These people.are.imposing themselves on us IN South Africa.
Why can't foreigners allow South Africans to tell their own stories, foreigners can learn a lot from South Africa, they must stop imposing their values and beliefs on South Africa
please kindly elaborate on "impose". If you're referring to the large number of immigrants in SA specifically, which is higher than most other African countries, that issue is more to do with policies from the local government rather than the actions of the immigrants themselves.
Who are imposing things on you! What makes South Africa so special from other Africans? You have a problem of superiority complex! You are not handling the situation with Nigerians well! Why are you not attacking the Indians?
@withOhleen which policies are you talking about, the riding crocs into South Africa? Or jumping through our borders? I was gonna say you forsho American, ignorant buh you said Zimbabwe and i understood you justifying your peoples actions
A White American Said he has travelled across Africa and discovered that, Nigeria is exceptional, that everything in Nigeria is proudly build by Nigerians unlike many African countries. Nigerians welcome all Africans to Nigeria, no beef at all to other Africans
Chidima and Trevour Noah totally different cases . Chidima’s parents are both foreigners while Trevor’s one parent is South African. Trevour was raised South African and Chidima raised Nigerian/Mozambican.
Ur are so so so intelligent as if ur from Igbo tribe of South East Nigeria. As ur talking I am picturing Chimamanda Ngozi Adiche, A global amason who herself is Igbo. U are a treasure to the black race. Ur submissions and analysis of the impasse bwt SA and African giant Nigeria is top notch. How I wish the citizens of both Countries should heed to ur advice and embrace peace, love and brotherhood black race will witness monumental prosperity. Thank u ! Asa Nma as we call beautiful woman in Igbo dialect.
Well you guys claim to hate mzansi yet you keep coming here. Everyday thousands of you are flocking in here, it's tiring. Hate us from distance instead of bad mouthing us while you are using our resources
Brilliantly put. But it’s not just Nigerians, South Africans hate other Africans period. Nigerians just don’t sit and take insults that’s all. They do the same to Zimbabweans, Ugandans, Rwanda, Angolans and these people are not loud so why are they hated as well? It’s the Bantu education.
Are these South Africans influxing Nigeria, Angola, Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Uganda etc in numbers and hating all these people in their country? Are these South Africans showing this hate by hassling legally or illegaly in majority in these countries? Where are these South Africans demonstrating this hate?
Don't look for support in saying we don't like other African countries.. we don't have a problem with most African countries. If your country name keeps popping up every time crime and drugs are mentioned then we have a problem. Why is it that u don't hear south Africans complaining about Kenyans or people from Botswana, Namibia, tanzanians??
@@k.j1145 please go and read the report on High Profile Crime for the 1st Quarter of 2024/2025 or listen to your country's Security Chief Public briefing on Crime involving (1) Car Hyjacking (2) Highway robbery (3) Bank robbery (4) Murder (5) Drug dealing or what you called Powder (6) Sex Offence - Rape and you will shut your mouth in shame to know that these crimes are 77% committed by you South Africans. No Nigeria howsoever is mentioned. This report was compiled by your own government, not outside government. Also, go and read or watch the documentary titled "South Africa a Gangster Paradise" then come and tell us who the criminals are. Don't hide the secret of your criminality and accuse innocent outsiders of offences they did not commit. Don't cover up your laziness and illiteracy with Apartheid, in fact apartheid should have been a motivating factor for you strive hard to succeed in order to prime the apartheid perpetrators wrong that you black South Africans can successful rule yourselves. Rather you proved Mr Pik Botha right when he described Black South Africans in his 1985 speech titled "Give Them Guns and They Will Kill Each Other" as making noise, dancing, Marrying too many wives and indulging in sex" good for nothing else. Don't justify your inability to rise above your apartheid mentality by accusing others, it will not help you out of your predicaments.
What a wonderful verse I hope you can preach to your fellow Zimbabweans who are scavenging in South Africa with no hope of ever prospering in Zimbabwe. Charity begins at home.
It’s not where you’re coming from that gives hope for prosperity. It’s what&how you do where you find yourself. You sound like you’re only seeing the “scavenger” version of my ppl, Im curious where you’re standing.
Wao.. look at that! Did you listen to the video? What did she say wrong? She even respectfully asked that comments should be productive and kind. You people are like little kids.
@@withOhleenYou lied that South Africa does not want Chidimma to succeed because she is Black and South African/Nigerian. Chidimma has no South African heritage whatsoever. She was not born here. A Ndebele from Zimbabwe could represent us, as he/she'll be more South African than Chidimma could ever be. Lastly, stop imposing Nigerians on us IN South Africa. We do not trouble them in Njgeria
Chidinma is not a South African genetically, culturally, legally. Her parents are Mozambican and Nigerians. She was NOT born in South Africa and she cannot speak any South African languages. We have two main languages isiNguni and seSotho-Tswana. You cannot compare Chidinma to Trevor Noah who was born here, grew.up Soweto, speaks South African languages, is part of our culture and his mother uMaSikhosana (a Nguni, Mfengu, Hlubi, Xhosa)
You are just sick, we have so many languages in South Africa, not only two! Isixhosa and others are there! You must learn and stop 🛑 the Naivety!! Learn and study!!!
@@NanaNana-ex7vz South Africa has 2 main native languages only. Stop believing Colonists' divide & rule. I take it you are poorly educated or just cannot read since I mentioned quote "two main languages isiNguni and seSotho-Tswana". You comment does not disagree with me. However Bantu Education in you does not figure that isiXhosa is a Nguni language.
You've spoken well my sister. But we can't change because that's how God created us. We all deferent and Uniq in own deferent way. Any Nigerian you see outside the country is a rich man believe me, that's naija for you. Thank you sister.
I don't have much time to listen either to read but I just want to tell you that I am a proudly South African and I love everybody i don't even mind the skin color. Love u from Cape Town 🇿🇦
This was a rather thankless exercise . you will get battered by one side or ignored by the both each will think you are siding with the other(the battle lines have been drawn, logic or reason left the building ages ago). You are really brave😃
@@cj-ux4sq I am on SA side on this one, I think they are brave and courageous people who are taken advantage by people who are refusing to face their problems and deal with them
The best paste towards our collective development is to showcase our positive beauties without any comparison whatsoever. Comparison opens doors of hatred and anarchy.
Why are we 🇿🇦 so hated by these people? This one insinuates that we are not as industrious or hustling. Where is this one from now? If Nigerians are so industrious and hustling, how come they are not as rich as Brazil, considering their population? Why are these smart hard-workers so poor? Why are they here doing wrong things? Uyabheda lo sisi omuhle.
South Africans, I urge you to not comment on or watch content that is not worth your time. For example someone comes to me and says im ugly etc,I will not defend myself, I'll probably walk away because I know im not ugly and secondly, I will not use my time and energy proving to someone that I am not ugly. The world has made up its mind that you're xenophobic and violent, let that be their problem. Do not give attention to such content.on another video this lady posted 3 days ago,she said 🇿🇦 is safe enough for solo travelers but today she says its known for its violence???? Are there no other content creators worthy of your time Ma South Africa amahle?? Why are you bothered by people who oaint a narrative without doing thorough research on you?? Not everyone has to like you and its fine,there are plenty of content creators worthy to be listened to,plenty who have 1st hand experience of 🇿🇦 friendliness. Why not listen to them instead?
Lol, they keep contradicting themselves. They say SA is unsafe and afrophobic yet they are in and out of our courts fighting to stay in SA . Talk about cognitive dissonance !
That's what I have been telling my fellow South Africans that you can't get into the mud with pigs and expect to come out clean I have been pointing out that the pigs are enjoying the mud.
...and sister you are speaking about Nigeria and South Africa, and you are hiding the gukurahundi massacre that happened in Zimbabwe, right now Zim is at the brink but you are speaking about other countries
Thats another problem. What are Shona people doing to Ndebele people there in Zimbabwe. Africans are hypocrites. They like to point the finger, but hate looking in the mirror.
@@thokohildamthombeni8544 you must have been soo hurt. It's called "rambling"... which is even rude of you. If you want to be insulting, at least learn the right word! Listen again. This video is not about picking sides.
@@TheLutheranDude7938Listen you Colonial clerk. Rumbling means making sounds in monotone as this lady's solo rant may relate. Rambling is incoherent speech. You picked the one that fits the shoe
Nigeria is not even competing with south Africa, we are in a world of our own . The people you see in south Africa are mostly of the Igbo tribe and they are everywhere in the world even Afganistan . this is because they are mostly traders and business merchants and they travel to countries to exploit business opportunities. If you don't like their activities south African government can control them but fighting Nigeria from far away SA is laughable we are closer to Europe than SA.
@@withOhleen It's interesting because you are Zimbabwean and have deep hate of SA you know nothing about us and never will and we don't care if you do or don't
Hi Dear. I am a South African. please can you explain SA vs Nigeria. here in south african we have issues that are important for people of SA. no wonder why i hate lamakwerekwere asenigeria
Okay let's do some fact checking:60% of SAn🇿🇦 infrastructure was built from 1994 under Black government,houses, roads, hospitals, stadiums, schools, airports, harbours,dams,ports,IDZ: industrial development zones 🇿🇦🧐
Let's also take account as South Africans and admit that there has been a lot more decay and dilapidation of things that were world class pre 94...the list is too long to list here. That said, the narrative that everything we've seen here is due to white South Africans is grossly misleading
Nigeria has been more of a blessing to Africa than South Africa. Agreed South Africans have gone through hell under apartheid. But then, there is a need to overgrow bitterness against other Africans.
I think it is a great conversation and needs to be more balanced. There is a hint of unconscious bias towards NG but sometimes it seems it is deserved. Firstly, you are right that some Nigerians are loud but the generalisation is grossly inaccurate. NG is a large country by land mass and population and very diverse with over 250 distinct tribes. Yes some tribes are quite "loud" and imposing even for the other tribes (You know yourselves) but that shouldn't be a blanket representation of Nigerians. Personally, I would like to see some Nigerians tone down the loudness a bit and be more considerate to those that are rather timid or reserved but we are proud people. It is a bit like you can always tell a Brit or Americans abroad. They are always loud! May I ask what part of Nigeria you visited and for how long? Secondly, SA may have marginally better maintained infrastructure but we have to put that in context. You said and I quote "SA looks like you have never left Europe". Well, that may be so but we are in Africa. The European colonisers in SA who still control much larger part of wealth and power have had a long time to build and maintain those infrastructures to serve them. I don't see that as a "bragging right" for "Black" South Africa. Sadly some South Africans use that as an insult towards Nigerians online. Nigerians have had to build their own infrastructures and everything else in a relatively short time amidst the turmoils and internal issues once the British were done plundering and left. I think they deserve better credit. Thirdly, these stereotypes that have been perpetuated globally about Nigerians that some Africans are now taking to another level should be discussed further. Some of our people do not understand how Geo-politics works so play into these narratives. Simply put, there is an element of "Divide and Rule" on a subliminal level at play here. Yes there are criminality wherever you go. Sexual assault is endemic in SA mostly carried out by South Africans, Fraud and money related crimes are equally endemic in Nigeria. Americans love their second amendment and do not hesitate to use it recklessly as we see in the daily mass shootings. Does that mean citizens from these countries are all criminals and hence deserve to be stereotyped? If there are criminals in SA with Nigerian citizenship then let them go through the justice system like any other criminal and vice versa. Why take it out on all Nigerians? Finally, We all as Africans appreciate the struggle "Black" South Africa is going through and the healing space and support it requires. Nigeria was among if not the biggest supporter of South Africa during the apartheid years and contributed financially and in other ways towards that struggle. However, when you are going through a healing process you should carry yourself in a certain way. The recent Bolt saga was instigated by a South African. Why go out of your way to create disruption towards those who support you or you claim are imposing themselves on you? How does that make sense? Personally, I think the issue particularly between SA and NG is that Nigerians in their resolute and resilient pursuit for success are inadvertently making South Africans appear inadequate and when the women openly state their dating preference in favour of Nigerians that is like adding insult to injury so they lash out and find something to exaggerate i.e. criminality/loudness to justify the aggression. Nigerians have been attacked in SA several years ago and never retaliated. To be fair they don't instigate the troubles. It is really painful to watch when Africa as a continent have bigger, deeper issues to deal with considering her past and where we should be. The sad truth about this all is none of these countries antagonising each other online are the real obstacles towards the progress and prosperity of each other. The only way to overcome that obstacle is in unity This really must stop.
thank you for taking the time to detail your thoughts and observations.... To your 1st point - I'm going to insert a response under a separate but related comment as I believe the same answer applies here ["... 3. "Nigerias are loud" - if we paused on the sensitivity around the word (which I fully acknowledge but bear with me whilst I make my point), typically the energy in a Nigerian brings to the table is very different, especially when compared to the southern parts of Africa, which is the focus in this video. When I personally say Nigerians are loud I'm not talking about turn of voice alone. A Nigerian is loud in their command, decisions, confidence and their risk appetite. It has been used as a derogatory term but that is not my intentions here whatsoever. In my video I did not make this to be a bad or a good thing, it is what it is from my pov. "] Your 2nd - my efforts here are not to make a comparison that leads into bragging rights. This is not a who is better or who handled colonialism better, etc. It's simply highlighting the strengths of each country full stop. Any country that went through colonialism deserves credit/slack for their efforts during and after such a time. If either Nigerians or South Africans are use their history as bragging rights, these in the mindsets as we need to be tabling and checking. I see my video and others similar as a conversation starter, not a conclusion, let alone a totally encompassing one. Your 3rd - I agree with everything in this point! Most especially "Divide and Rule" The rest, all I can say is thank you for spelling out what needs to be tabled. Hopefully we can do it in a mature, kind and results focused manner. 🫶🏾
Long essay which is absolutely useless. Nigerians can never measure up to South Africans we are way better off than you lot, we don't drown in the ocean and our people are not slaves in Libya, to mention South Africa in a same sentence with Nigeria should be an offense punishable with capital punishment.
We don't need unity! It is a fraudulent idea. We have buy into it and has ruined Nigeria. In fact, Nigeria is backward today because we put other Africans first and that has to stop. We should love ourselves first and fix our country and that is the best way to go. Enough is enough. South Africans can eff off our country with their businesses today least I care. I really don't know why Nigerians are really visiting or going to live in that country and praising it to the detriment of Nigeria. We need to wake up from slumber in Nigeria and when we do South Africa cannot be a competition at all. In fact, South Africa is using this Africa opportunity to enrich itself. By the time we put a limit to what is Africa, whether it is what should be accepted in the area of trade, politic, economy and otherwise or entry of businesses into Africa South Africa shouldn't be allowed to be the gateway. Most African countries give South Africa this opportunity by default when businesses are entering into Africa and it contributes to the development of the country. What we all should say and do is let South Africa be the gateway because of infrastructure to South Africa not Africa. It is time to ask for the right of other African countries to say no. If you want to do anything in Africa it must be where it is needed not when it is should fits before reaching into other parts. Thank you.
What if home affairs department actually made a mistake about chicis mother buying someone else ID. What is home affairs actually gave her someone ID by error. Come to think of it, the home affairs, in their statement, said, the woman whose ID was stolen, was given a new ID within months, which is safe to say in that same year. Which begs the question, why is is then difficult for home affairs department to do the same for others whose IDs were stolen. I think home affairs department themselves know they had made a mistake, hence they couldn't even stop chidima and her mother from traveling 😂😂😂
Chichi father Nigerian 🇳🇬 and Mother Mozambique 🇲🇿 nothing Nothing South African about Chichi, Trevor Father German and Mother South African it’s not the same
@@withOhleenIt burned out that SAs Home Affairs lied about Chichi stealing someone's identity. Chichi was born in South Africa before the laws on citizenship were changed. Chichi was born South African legally. The Home Affairs will have a lot of explaining to do in court.
@@rotimikayode1072 😂😂 my dear you are wrong. The fact that her citizenship was fraudulently obtained, means all is null and void. Status gets revoked because of the fraud that took place on 2001. 😂😂
You can not be having perspectives sisi about South Africa as we have more than 10 different cultures and yet grounded by our ubuntu , under ubuntu we are not supposed to shout and yell at other people as that shows a level of disrespect.What West Africa believes i n is completely different as they stand for dominance.Next time you must engange with South African people to understand our lienage firstly if you really know South African people as the Zulu people of the state no one would question Chidimna`s Zulu heritage because she would have a Zulu name even if its not in an Id because of South African spiriatuality or nick name /bynaam.There is more to us the people the people of South Africa ,study the people and their culture not South Africa as a state.
@@withOhleen the average percentage energy devoted to hate and beefing between people of these countries also correspond to the high rate of unemployment within them. Fun fact is that unemplyed african youths are still able to afford onlne data. 😆
I totally agree with you on Nigerian pushing spirit to the extent of being a threat to others. However its bnot all Nigerians that rub it on others,a part of Nigerians do that, but I don't want to mention name.
In as much as i appreciate your views, i want to state categorically that south Africans are suffering from trauma caused by apartheid! Yes few Nigerians may go at the wrong ways! But south Africans are the real people though ( SOME ) that commit evil. They should change, we are brothers and sisters! The white keep united while black keep divided, WHY
Your videos is incomplete, in terms of infrastructure, you haven't visit Nigeria, but you feel South Africa infrastructure is more better, visit first before you split nonsense
@@actornamso2527 Its research that tells us that countries with the best infrastructure in Africa are: 1. Botswana 2. South Africa 3. Ghana and then Seychelles. Nigeria does not even come at the top five
@@Marysmmiiith- lool shows how much you know genius! loool! Ghana? south Africa? Botswana - you are just a local jingo and I am willing to bet that you have NEVER been to Nigeria oh and just for your information, the whole country of south Africa is like one big dirty ghetto compared to Rwanda, which is better than all the countries you have just mentioned - so do me a favour and go back to school! Unbelievable!!
@@withOhleen - teehehe and just look who's talking? Dude chill and don't get ahead of your self! You think we don't hear you forcing to speak English and failing miserably?? lool!
Thank you my sister, you said many things which I agree with, but in reality Chidima 's mom is not South African. She has been very quiet throughout this miss South Africa fiasco which is unusual for any South African. Home Affairs department found out that she bought identy from a corrupt staff at home affairs which is very strange for South African to do that, cos every child born by South African women automatically become South African no need to buy Identity.
In South Africa it's not enough to be born here. You must also have a parent that is South African as well. They changed the laws a little bit. If a foreigner has a child with a South African, that foreigner does not become South African. They changed the rules a bit because they were being abused by the foreign nationals.
You bring such lame comparisons about love???? Why are they hated everywhere else beside south africa????? Just behave when you are in someone's land period
@@withOhleen why are you hardworking brothers and sisters not wanted in other countries around the world is it that they are not liked and people are jealous of them????????
@@withOhleen i don't have time for your denial and ignorance you guys are the giants of Africa right.....fix your country and make it great stop bothering other people in their own country
Sorry you are wrong there is no evidence that Miss Nigeria's mother is South African. No South African parent need to be involved in fraud activities to register the birth of their child despite the other parent being a foreign national.
South Africa is a country that was built and developed by the British, not by South Africans or their government. Like other African countries that gained independence in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, the colonial rulers exploited their wealth and left. However, South Africa is the only African country where the British colonial empire invested in development. Some of the descendants of the colonial rulers their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren are still in South Africa, and much of the wealth still belongs to them, including individuals like F. W. de Klerk who was the president from 1989 to 1994.
Dont make it look like the damage in the bolt war was in equal measure. 😂😂😂 Because we all know that southafrica was the worst hit.😂😂 The bollt app crashed in SA, leading to astronomic hike in charging rates, and many being stranded. but it never did in Nigeria. 😂
That’s your problem and anyone who doesn’t feel comfortable about it, that high energy is yielding good results to us and why should we tame or slow it down? SA are going to learn the hard way let them continue to embrace their oppressors
It’s not about taming. There are ways to be yourself whilst still being etiquette and respectful regardless of your opinions of the place or its people.
@@withOhleen do you while we do us,we are not slowing down for no one and no one can slow us down anyway, what you see is just organic and it’s natural we are not trying to be anyone or copy anyone so you ain’t going to slow it down, it’s a gift that’s keep giving and the beauty of it all is WE LOVE OURSELVES irrespective of external criticism
This is a very balanced assessment of the situation. It shows the brilliance of a typical Zimbabwean. The most educated people on the continent of Africa 😮😅😊
do you mean black government in SA in 30 years nothing happens under us , when you say all the infrastructure done by colonial as if they were working alone,
My point is centred on the history behind how South Africa became a first/second world country. No other country has the same rate of colonial settlement which contributed to faster development. That’s not me saying the black government has done “nothing”.
@@TheLutheranDude7938 Black South Africans as a group hold more wealth than White South Africans as a group. We have more households, and total asset holding. Black South Africans are the wealthiest Black African population in Africa. In real terms, we have tripled the size of the economy since 1994. Having said this; why are you fighting to be in our space, imposing Nigerians on us when we have clearly rejected those people?
All these numbers talk you guys are talking about Nigerians is not it all, it is one of our least acces. Everything in Nigeria is build by Nigerians and Nigerians only. No foreign hands in it and we are very proud and loud about ourselves and no apology to anybody. Unlike South Africa rainbow nation without a black color was built by white south Africans and Europeans. What hace black south Africans contributed to their country and Africa. For Godsake, you guys, should just let us breath and we are breathing well. Everybody just want to trend on Nigeria. Whatever it is, it is what it is....nobody no country can pull us down. We lead while other African countries follow. We are Africans, we are bkack and proud
There huge issues regarding identity theft in South Africa. There is a huge issue regarding illegal migrants in South Africa. You can only blame the Government for this mess.
Nigerians naturally are born huslers, rich or poor all wants to hustle and learn from different environment. Learning to us do not end in classroom, we want to know more and become the best. And you cannot judge Nigeria just because u went to lagos. Nigeria has 36 state with diverse people
Yeah no people, you better unsubscribe now, I've seen this ladies comments through out the comment section, she's extremely biased, very unprofessional.
YOU SAID CHIDI'S MOTHER IS SOUTH AFRICAN, I BET YOU MADE NO MISTAKE THERE. BAFETHU BEWARE OF THESE PEOPLE THEIR ONLY LOOKING FOR A CONTENT IT'S SAD REALLY.
@@withOhleen They're not exactly welcomed with open arms either. They do fare off better than Nigerians though because they can easily camouflage themselves into South African society and sometimes their surnames are similar to South African surnames. You mentioned how South Africans are still healing and your tone seemed to be a bit derisive. Just imagine being in the process of healing from trauma and being bombarded by people running away from violence and poverty en masse into your space. This obviously will interrupt your healing and you will have to spend time defending your space and resources. Please do yourself a favour and just do some quick research on how Zimbabweans behave in South Africa. I also want to mention that there is no country in the world that welcomes an influx of illegal immigrants. The whole world at the moment has issues with this but somehow South Africans are being told to just accept this merely because the illegal immigrants are also African. This kind of thinking is incredibly backward. Why for example doesn't the same guilt tripping apply in Asia? Why can't illegal Vietnamese people just go and settle in South Korea and sell drugs and run scams? Would people call South Koreans xenophobic if they protested this?
Thank you so much for spelling this out... Appreciate it! It's not that I'm unaware, it's that I want to focus on the topic at hand in this specific video but inserted relevant examples/information here and there. The "still healing" process - This is an important fact I really agree with - I also agree with the necessity to have the space and resources to help. My only question here is could it be you are expressing your frustration and upset at people when it's your systems/government/policies that need reviewing to reflect what the south africans want and need today? Could it be immigrants are not the real issue but your policies (or lack of)? I also agree with your way of thinking in your last point. It's a very important analysis that needs to be tabled by everyone. Here is to hoping content like this will get us having the right conversation... You mentioned "camouflage themselves" - something about that whole sentence is very sad i have to say...
Some of the biggest banking , retail and Tech companies operating in Nigeria are owned by white South Africans . Shell is owned by which race ? Please.
In terms or what? You will tell us you have many billionaires? See we don't see success the same , for us success is having a high quality of life for all, Thats what we are fighting for. I don't care about the billionaires unless they make a difference
@@youme1414 Even the English don't speak perfect textbook English. Pity you can't use the English to clean your streets and improve sanitation, it is filthy there. Sanitation-wise you are a century behind SA. It's gonna take more than insults to catch up.
South africans has problems with Nigerians and you said the reasons why that is right?. And you said you are from Zimbabwe you guys are gentle and laid back, you obey the law of the land anywhere you go right?. Can you please tell me why same South Africans are having problems with Zimbabweans? a bigger problem than they even have with Nigerians. Yet you obey the laws, gentle and laid back?. The infrastructure you talked about how has it affected average black south Africans in a positive way? The infrastructure they own or the one they are still slave to?. You are from Zimbabwe right, please tell me the state of infrastructure in Zimbabwe.
Good analysis. But for me taken the lives of other because of women, loosing in business, or any other competition is outrightly wrong. Hating on your fellow blacks who helped you gain your present freedom is foolishness and ingratitude(not only Nigeria in this case), this has nothing to do with healing from d aperthid trauma.
Our laws dont give citizenship to a child born of foreign nationals,Trevor Noah is Xhosa and Swiss one of the parents is SA and the law allows that.please stop making Trevor a skipgoat
After all the development level of South Africans is not fully their own making but that of their former masters during Apartheid. Yet. We are still proud of this country because it is an Africa country with very promising future if only the country's governance now in the hands of Black South Africans is way better that Africans experience in their respective countries. God save Africa
The human development index of Nigeria is high . South Africans are proud of infrastructure built for them while Nigerians are building theirs . At the end we will know who has the real formula.
Chidimna’s father is Nigerian and her mother is from Mozambique. Her mother was accused of identity theft which is how Chidimna was granted citizenship despite her not having knowledge of it. A lot of South Africans suffer from identity theft as home affairs will do shady deals like this and it only increases the tension between South Africans and foreigners.
Madam, the so called first world infrastructure was not built by the blacks, these are legacies of Apartheid. It's ironic to be proud of such. On thebother hands Nigeria was actively involved in the liberation of black SAns from Apartheid. Finally how is SA the pace setters? In what category? All what you described of SA economic, industrial are dominated by their 7.3% white minority against 85+% black majority. So if you claimed that Nigeria has numbers then why are the numbers of the black South Africans not speaking for them? It's not about numbers. The numbers theory is a dumb one.
Don't blame South Africans for maintaining their colonial infrastructure, it's not our fault that you people failed to improve and maintain the infrastructure left behind by lord Lugard.😂😂
@@thuthukanisjaka2597 Not only did we maintain our infrastructure we also did not go into years and years of destructive tribal wars. We also went straight into developing the country straight after independence. We hit the ground running and built SA , sought direct foreign investment and upskilled our people instead of embarking on stupid tribal wars.
Your talking trash. Adding salt to injury. You insult us, Nigerians by talking rubbish about Nigerians. Most Nigerians at home are richer than those in diaspora. With did Chidimma do to you SA? Why did you start you the bolt nonsense?
The word "African" being slipped into every conversation except African Manners"and respect.. Because theý're there but they're not being applied to South Africa. Having the same skin colour shouldn't be a pass for people you don''t even know cause chaos in a country that many suffered for. South Africans cannot debate/seek-validation with/from people outside of it's yard. It's pure disrespect at this point that the country's name is being cheapened online by people who have no clue about what's going on
My sister you have spoken well by trying to balance your views about the two nations. However, you got it wrong when you said that when you are an immigrants in another country your hustling is hard in order to succeed, so the South Africans are at home and need not hustle to better their lives. This is not true of Nigerians, the average Nigerian hustle is in Nigeria as much as he hustles in diaspora. The South African waits for their government to provide everything for them, but Nigerians work hard for themselves without the Government. Please do not say that Nigerians are loud, that is a derogatory word to use because to Nigerians too other nations are loud in the way that they speak which sounds weird and strange pronunciation of words. The fact is that Nigerians DONT believe that there is anything that can inhibit their desire to succeed and can face any challenge head-on.
thank you very much for your comment! I agree my delivery could've been more specific. I do believe in the point I was trying to make tho. Here take-2:
1. typically (emphasis on typically therefore not all ppl or all the time), the hustle you see from an immigrant vs a local will be different. I don't see this as a bad thing or a good thing, but simply what it is because of different motivating factors.
2. There are characteristics Nigerians will have which I personally believe stem from the dynamic of the environment they come from. You kindly mentioned 1 example truth/factor in that, Nigerians don't get government benefits/handouts - or at least I'm not aware of an official benefit structure.
3. "Nigerias are loud" - if we paused on the sensitivity around the word (which I fully acknowledge but bear with me whilst I make my point), typically the energy in a Nigerian brings to the table is very different, especially when compared to the southern parts of Africa, which is the focus in this video. When I personally say Nigerians are loud I'm not talking about turn of voice alone. A Nigerian is loud in their command, decisions, confidence and their risk appetite. It has been used as a derogatory term but that is not my intentions here whatsoever. In my video I did not make this to be a bad or a good thing, it is what it is from my pov.
Your last sentence is beautiful! I really believe this is the mindset we should all embody for every/any situation. This is not to say that there aren’t individuals already doing so, but we need more of this energy and we need it as a collective front🫶🏾"
@@withOhleen thank you my dear sister, for your comments. I truly appreciate your open mind. My comments were not meant to attack you but a critical view of your analyses. I remembered very clearly that Zimbabawe formerly called Rhodesia was deeply skewed in apartheid rule under Cecil Rhodes assisted by the apartheid South Africa. Not until Mr Ian Smith stubbornly called the bluff of South Africa apartheid government by making a Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI) thereby extricated Zimbabwe from the yokes of South Apartheid. Robert Mugabe, Joshua Nkomo and Abel Muzorewa were the fighters against the Ian Smith apartheid government. When in 1980 , Rhodesia gained independence, and the name changed to Zimbabwe, the Zimbabwean young men and women DID NOT fold their hands in laziness waiting for Robert Mugabe new government to serve them every of their needs. They rose to the occassion by taking the bull by the horn. Nigerians came to Zimbabwe, the question was "why did the Zimbabweans not accuse Nigerians and or other Africa nationals who came to New nation of being their problem? Zimbabweans saw Nigerians energy, motivation, zeal and desire for excellence and push forward along. Forget that America saw the great potential of Zimbabwe and imposed a crippling economic sanctions but Zimbabwe survived. Angola and Namibia all went through apartheid but none falsely accused any other African nationals who came to their country of committing crime in order to justify their dormant behaviour and barrenness of knowledge. It is only a lazy person who blames a hard working intellectual for his/her failures and this is the characteristics of these South African social media attackers. I gave Zimbabwe, Angola and Namibia as clear examples for these South Africans to stand up on their feet and move on but stop these baseless accusations of foreigners committing offences of which they the South Africans are the Kingpins. Please my dear, watch and listen to the documentary titled "South Africa a Gansgter Paradise and also read the their government report or just hear their Security Chief give a brief on High Profile Ctime involving
(1)Highway robbery
(2) Bank robbery
(3) Car hyjacking
(4) sex offences - Rape
(5) Drug dealing or what they South Africans called Powder
emphasising that 77% of these crimes are committed by South Africans themselves not foreigners. No Nigerian was mentioned in any manner. My point here is that these angry South Africans are simply blaming outsiders to cover up their inability to think out of the box ie on the spur of the moment and rise above apartheid. Zimbabweans did it with the first 15 to 20 years of becoming independent until wicked America placed economic sanctions on her.
@@withOhleenchidima her both parents are not South African, her father is Nigerian and mother Mozambique while Trevor Noah his mother is South African and his father is Swiss. So the lady is not South African but born and grew up in South Africa.
@@pako4926…Trevor Noah is my Dadobawo’s first son, so he’s my cousin. If I’m a recognised citizen of South Africa 🇿🇦, then obviously he’ll be recognised as a South African 🇿🇦 because we come from the same family. He doesn’t compare to Chidinma in that sense. Our family has been in South Africa 🇿🇦 for over 6 generations according to our family history.
Nigeria is way behind south Africa it is fact, what Nigeria could do is work in their land they will see the results
Nigeria literally imposes itself on SA. And you are right, we still need to deal with our apartheid traumas. Therefore, Nigerians need to give us some space to breathe and heal.
Impose!? How? Are they in any capacity of governance in SA? Do they compel you by force under any threats to your life to agree with them? What you call imposition is appealing to your conscience to kind of make you see reason with them even though sounding authoritatively. Go and get lessons from Julius Malema
Give us space because niyadina. There’s a reason why Julius Malema’s party performed horribly in these past elections. South Africans are not going to allow “open boarders”, not after fighting apartheid within our borders ourselves. African countries like Nigeria had spies and collaborators with UK during apartheid- Especially the folks who were so desperate to have their own state (Hello Biafra). Miss me with that” kumbaya - lets unite”, we can only unit on equal footing. And use your energy “by fire by force” to build your own country FFS!
If someone applies to go to South Africa and the goverment allows , tell me one reason why they should not go .
I understand that you wouldn't want the illegal migrants who commits all sorts of crimes but what of the ones who just live there ? Are they imposing themselves on you ?
We have been talking about ILLEGAL immigrants. You should come here if you are either visiting, have a work or study visa or strict humanitarian reasons. Not just because you hate Tinumbu.
@@Mini-vz1op Fair enough I myself are against illegal immigrants and people who sell drugs and do crime in South Africa . That should not happen at all .
There is no nigeria v south africa. There is Nigeria imposing itself on South Africa
can someone spell out how Nigeria is "imposing itself" please.
@@withOhleen South Africans have said again and again said that they don't want you in their country but according to statics the number of Nigerians in SA has moved to over 500 000. Why insist on being unwanted visitors? Please educate us.
Wow... U don't want Nigerian in sa but sa is in Nigeria.. u guyz are small minded and dumb. No wonder d yt (minority) were able to dominate d black(majority) in sa... Mumu people
Exactly. The whole.thing is about Nigerians in South Africa.
It is not about South Africans in Nigeria.
These people.are.imposing themselves on us IN South Africa.
@@ohlangenivery stupid comments
Why can't foreigners allow South Africans to tell their own stories, foreigners can learn a lot from South Africa, they must stop imposing their values and beliefs on South Africa
Foreigners can't learn anything from you anyway who want to learn about xenophobia
please kindly elaborate on "impose". If you're referring to the large number of immigrants in SA specifically, which is higher than most other African countries, that issue is more to do with policies from the local government rather than the actions of the immigrants themselves.
Who are imposing things on you! What makes South Africa so special from other Africans? You have a problem of superiority complex! You are not handling the situation with Nigerians well! Why are you not attacking the Indians?
@@withOhleenwhich policies from local government are you referring to? Local government doesn’t have a mandate on immigration
@withOhleen which policies are you talking about, the riding crocs into South Africa? Or jumping through our borders? I was gonna say you forsho American, ignorant buh you said Zimbabwe and i understood you justifying your peoples actions
A White American Said he has travelled across Africa and discovered that, Nigeria is exceptional, that everything in Nigeria is proudly build by Nigerians unlike many African countries. Nigerians welcome all Africans to Nigeria, no beef at all to other Africans
lol😂😂😂.
the rate at which you're running away from that failed country amuses me.
you're busy saying you're welcoming... in order to welcome people, you have to be in your country!! but i bet you're not in your country!!
lastly... Nigeria is gabage!! no-one wants to be there, that's including her citizens 🙄
@@kennedyigharo6468 what weed are you smoking 😂
Chidima and Trevour Noah totally different cases . Chidima’s parents are both foreigners while Trevor’s one parent is South African. Trevour was raised South African and Chidima raised Nigerian/Mozambican.
Ur are so so so intelligent as if ur from Igbo tribe of South East Nigeria. As ur talking I am picturing Chimamanda Ngozi Adiche, A global amason who herself is Igbo. U are a treasure to the black race. Ur submissions and analysis of the impasse bwt SA and African giant Nigeria is top notch. How I wish the citizens of both Countries should heed to ur advice and embrace peace, love and brotherhood black race will witness monumental prosperity. Thank u ! Asa Nma as we call beautiful woman in Igbo dialect.
Thank you so much! I really do hope we get there soon one day✊🏾
@@withOhleen get where?!! you're busy spreading lies on TH-cam! we'll get on the level of your lies🤔
@withOhleen we'll get where?!!
you're busy spreading lies!!
we'll get the level of your lies🤔
Please
Thanks for this wonderful message of love and unity ❤
Well you guys claim to hate mzansi yet you keep coming here. Everyday thousands of you are flocking in here, it's tiring. Hate us from distance instead of bad mouthing us while you are using our resources
Her mother is not South African, point of correction
How is selling Drugs and Prostitution Hustle?
If you have no buyers there will be no sellers. Stop using drugs and no one will sell it to you.
Brilliantly put. But it’s not just Nigerians, South Africans hate other Africans period. Nigerians just don’t sit and take insults that’s all. They do the same to Zimbabweans, Ugandans, Rwanda, Angolans and these people are not loud so why are they hated as well? It’s the Bantu education.
Are these South Africans influxing Nigeria, Angola, Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Uganda etc in numbers and hating all these people in their country? Are these South Africans showing this hate by hassling legally or illegaly in majority in these countries? Where are these South Africans demonstrating this hate?
Don't look for support in saying we don't like other African countries.. we don't have a problem with most African countries. If your country name keeps popping up every time crime and drugs are mentioned then we have a problem. Why is it that u don't hear south Africans complaining about Kenyans or people from Botswana, Namibia, tanzanians??
@@k.j1145 please go and read the report on High Profile Crime for the 1st Quarter of 2024/2025 or listen to your country's Security Chief Public briefing on Crime involving
(1) Car Hyjacking
(2) Highway robbery
(3) Bank robbery
(4) Murder
(5) Drug dealing or what you called Powder
(6) Sex Offence - Rape
and you will shut your mouth in shame to know that these crimes are 77% committed by you South Africans. No Nigeria howsoever is mentioned. This report was compiled by your own government, not outside government. Also, go and read or watch the documentary titled "South Africa a Gangster Paradise" then come and tell us who the criminals are. Don't hide the secret of your criminality and accuse innocent outsiders of offences they did not commit. Don't cover up your laziness and illiteracy with Apartheid, in fact apartheid should have been a motivating factor for you strive hard to succeed in order to prime the apartheid perpetrators wrong that you black South Africans can successful rule yourselves. Rather you proved Mr Pik Botha right when he described Black South Africans in his 1985 speech titled "Give Them Guns and They Will Kill Each Other" as making noise, dancing, Marrying too many wives and indulging in sex" good for nothing else. Don't justify your inability to rise above your apartheid mentality by accusing others, it will not help you out of your predicaments.
Simple
They will enter church premises and steal in broad daylight!
Thank you sister for your objective analysis: put the energy and creativity on togetherness and collective progress.
🫶🏾
What a wonderful verse I hope you can preach to your fellow Zimbabweans who are scavenging in South Africa with no hope of ever prospering in Zimbabwe.
Charity begins at home.
It’s not where you’re coming from that gives hope for prosperity. It’s what&how you do where you find yourself. You sound like you’re only seeing the “scavenger” version of my ppl, Im curious where you’re standing.
Wao.. look at that! Did you listen to the video? What did she say wrong? She even respectfully asked that comments should be productive and kind. You people are like little kids.
Ths is the typical south African for you
@@uramaogbonnaya5663 of course I am, proudly so with no intention of fleeing but solving our countries problems unlike our neighbors.
@@withOhleenYou lied that South Africa does not want Chidimma to succeed because she is Black and South African/Nigerian.
Chidimma has no South African heritage whatsoever. She was not born here. A Ndebele from Zimbabwe could represent us, as he/she'll be more South African than Chidimma could ever be.
Lastly, stop imposing Nigerians on us IN South Africa.
We do not trouble them in Njgeria
Chidinma is not a South African genetically, culturally, legally. Her parents are Mozambican and Nigerians.
She was NOT born in South Africa and she cannot speak any South African languages. We have two main languages isiNguni and seSotho-Tswana.
You cannot compare Chidinma to Trevor Noah who was born here, grew.up Soweto, speaks South African languages, is part of our culture and his mother uMaSikhosana (a Nguni, Mfengu, Hlubi, Xhosa)
You are just sick, we have so many languages in South Africa, not only two! Isixhosa and others are there! You must learn and stop 🛑 the Naivety!! Learn and study!!!
@@NanaNana-ex7vz South Africa has 2 main native languages only.
Stop believing Colonists' divide & rule. I take it you are poorly educated or just cannot read since I mentioned quote "two main languages isiNguni and seSotho-Tswana".
You comment does not disagree with me. However Bantu Education in you does not figure that isiXhosa is a Nguni language.
Mumu.....how many Africaan language do you speak .You in America how many of the native American language do you know.
You've spoken well my sister. But we can't change because that's how God created us. We all deferent and Uniq in own deferent way. Any Nigerian you see outside the country is a rich man believe me, that's naija for you. Thank you sister.
I don't have much time to listen either to read but I just want to tell you that I am a proudly South African and I love everybody i don't even mind the skin color. Love u from Cape Town 🇿🇦
This was a rather thankless exercise . you will get battered by one side or ignored by the both each will think you are siding with the other(the battle lines have been drawn, logic or reason left the building ages ago). You are really brave😃
😂😂😂I can’t give up on my ppl
@@cj-ux4sq I am on SA side on this one, I think they are brave and courageous people who are taken advantage by people who are refusing to face their problems and deal with them
The best paste towards our collective development is to showcase our positive beauties without any comparison whatsoever. Comparison opens doors of hatred and anarchy.
Why are we 🇿🇦 so hated by these people? This one insinuates that we are not as industrious or hustling. Where is this one from now?
If Nigerians are so industrious and hustling, how come they are not as rich as Brazil, considering their population? Why are these smart hard-workers so poor? Why are they here doing wrong things? Uyabheda lo sisi omuhle.
She means you aren’t using illegal means to get your bread. She can’t explain the hustling because it’s illegality
@@sondisamvemnyama3476 she is a Zimbabwean. We all know what is happening in Zimbabwe
Geopolitics and the power that be!
I think you must get your facts right about SA Chidimma mamas is not South Africa but Mozambican
Hey! You are brilliant. You pour out my mind concerning the unnecessary rivalry that is going on in the continent right now. Keep it up, my friend.
South Africans, I urge you to not comment on or watch content that is not worth your time.
For example someone comes to me and says im ugly etc,I will not defend myself, I'll probably walk away because I know im not ugly and secondly, I will not use my time and energy proving to someone that I am not ugly.
The world has made up its mind that you're xenophobic and violent, let that be their problem. Do not give attention to such content.on another video this lady posted 3 days ago,she said 🇿🇦 is safe enough for solo travelers but today she says its known for its violence????
Are there no other content creators worthy of your time Ma South Africa amahle??
Why are you bothered by people who oaint a narrative without doing thorough research on you??
Not everyone has to like you and its fine,there are plenty of content creators worthy to be listened to,plenty who have 1st hand experience of 🇿🇦 friendliness. Why not listen to them instead?
Lol, they keep contradicting themselves. They say SA is unsafe and afrophobic yet they are in and out of our courts fighting to stay in SA . Talk about cognitive dissonance !
That's what I have been telling my fellow South Africans that you can't get into the mud with pigs and expect to come out clean I have been pointing out that the pigs are enjoying the mud.
am a Nigerian I love you already and I just subscribe to your channel ❤❤❤❤
...and sister you are speaking about Nigeria and South Africa, and you are hiding the gukurahundi massacre that happened in Zimbabwe, right now Zim is at the brink but you are speaking about other countries
there's no hiding here! just keeping to the topic/title of this specific video
Nigeria news helps to chase clouts fast na😂
Thats another problem. What are Shona people doing to Ndebele people there in Zimbabwe. Africans are hypocrites. They like to point the finger, but hate looking in the mirror.
@@thembandlovu9455 Nigerians must go and solve their tribalism, sectarianism and must negotiate with bokoharam as black and white South Africans did
Point of correction, Trevor Noah's father is from Sweden, and his case is too different from this story
18 minutes of rumbling but you did not cover even a single reason South Africans have beef against Nigerians. You sugarcoat things.
The focus of this video is not “reasons”. Also my video is not 18 minutes
@@thokohildamthombeni8544 you must have been soo hurt. It's called "rambling"... which is even rude of you. If you want to be insulting, at least learn the right word!
Listen again. This video is not about picking sides.
Maybe since she said she's Zimbabwean she must take her own advice and mobilise her people to deal with ZANU-PF
@@TheLutheranDude7938Listen you Colonial clerk. Rumbling means making sounds in monotone as this lady's solo rant may relate. Rambling is incoherent speech. You picked the one that fits the shoe
@@ohlangeni yea yea... effing dum-azz! You barely managed to come up with something! 😆
Lovely analysis. I don't agree with everything you have said, but I would say you had a good balance. Well done.
thank you! which parts do you not agree with?
You kept using infrastructure as your yard stick which is flawed.... unless you visit Nigeria, your presentation falls short!
This is so so well said!
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Nigeria is not even competing with south Africa, we are in a world of our own . The people you see in south Africa are mostly of the Igbo tribe and they are everywhere in the world even Afganistan . this is because they are mostly traders and business merchants and they travel to countries to exploit business opportunities. If you don't like their activities south African government can control them but fighting Nigeria from far away SA is laughable we are closer to Europe than SA.
this is a very interesting perspective!
Drowning in Mediterranean sea and thinking your are better still getting deported left and right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was with you all the way, learning and understanding, until the end when you gloated about being closer to Europe. Yikes..
In Nigeria more than the whole population of South Africa is living in poverty. South Africa has a higher GDP per capita than Nigeria
@@withOhleen It's interesting because you are Zimbabwean and have deep hate of SA you know nothing about us and never will and we don't care if you do or don't
Hi Dear. I am a South African. please can you explain SA vs Nigeria. here in south african we have issues that are important for people of SA. no wonder why i hate lamakwerekwere asenigeria
Okay let's do some fact checking:60% of SAn🇿🇦 infrastructure was built from 1994 under Black government,houses, roads, hospitals, stadiums, schools, airports, harbours,dams,ports,IDZ: industrial development zones 🇿🇦🧐
Please can you share your source for this percentage
@@withOhleen don't act dumb we all know SA was in dismay after they gained independence due to sanctions.
@@withOhleen Stats SA:30 years review report, African Development Bank Group,also check department of trade & industry,SAICE
@@withOhleenchatgpt
Let's also take account as South Africans and admit that there has been a lot more decay and dilapidation of things that were world class pre 94...the list is too long to list here. That said, the narrative that everything we've seen here is due to white South Africans is grossly misleading
Nigerians don't hate! Thank you, ma'am!
You're absolutely on point Sister ❤
Nigeria has been more of a blessing to Africa than South Africa. Agreed South Africans have gone through hell under apartheid. But then, there is a need to overgrow bitterness against other Africans.
Why people tell south african stories not south african or people that stay in africa.
Then tell your stories
Newest subscriber here! Very stellar content. Why am I just discovering your channel? I could listen to you all day.
So grateful! Appreciate the support 🫶🏾
Brilliant, intelligent, smart podcast....!!
thank you...
@@withOhleen Your analysis is so accurate with every talking point of subject matter, very educational... Thank you
This fight will stop when women stop needing something from men. 😊😊😊
Well! Now that’s food for thought
🤣😂😂FACTS
I think it is a great conversation and needs to be more balanced. There is a hint of unconscious bias towards NG but sometimes it seems it is deserved.
Firstly, you are right that some Nigerians are loud but the generalisation is grossly inaccurate. NG is a large country by land mass and population and very diverse with over 250 distinct tribes. Yes some tribes are quite "loud" and imposing even for the other tribes (You know yourselves) but that shouldn't be a blanket representation of Nigerians. Personally, I would like to see some Nigerians tone down the loudness a bit and be more considerate to those that are rather timid or reserved but we are proud people. It is a bit like you can always tell a Brit or Americans abroad. They are always loud! May I ask what part of Nigeria you visited and for how long?
Secondly, SA may have marginally better maintained infrastructure but we have to put that in context. You said and I quote "SA looks like you have never left Europe". Well, that may be so but we are in Africa. The European colonisers in SA who still control much larger part of wealth and power have had a long time to build and maintain those infrastructures to serve them. I don't see that as a "bragging right" for "Black" South Africa. Sadly some South Africans use that as an insult towards Nigerians online. Nigerians have had to build their own infrastructures and everything else in a relatively short time amidst the turmoils and internal issues once the British were done plundering and left. I think they deserve better credit.
Thirdly, these stereotypes that have been perpetuated globally about Nigerians that some Africans are now taking to another level should be discussed further. Some of our people do not understand how Geo-politics works so play into these narratives. Simply put, there is an element of "Divide and Rule" on a subliminal level at play here. Yes there are criminality wherever you go. Sexual assault is endemic in SA mostly carried out by South Africans, Fraud and money related crimes are equally endemic in Nigeria. Americans love their second amendment and do not hesitate to use it recklessly as we see in the daily mass shootings. Does that mean citizens from these countries are all criminals and hence deserve to be stereotyped? If there are criminals in SA with Nigerian citizenship then let them go through the justice system like any other criminal and vice versa. Why take it out on all Nigerians?
Finally, We all as Africans appreciate the struggle "Black" South Africa is going through and the healing space and support it requires. Nigeria was among if not the biggest supporter of South Africa during the apartheid years and contributed financially and in other ways towards that struggle. However, when you are going through a healing process you should carry yourself in a certain way. The recent Bolt saga was instigated by a South African. Why go out of your way to create disruption towards those who support you or you claim are imposing themselves on you? How does that make sense? Personally, I think the issue particularly between SA and NG is that Nigerians in their resolute and resilient pursuit for success are inadvertently making South Africans appear inadequate and when the women openly state their dating preference in favour of Nigerians that is like adding insult to injury so they lash out and find something to exaggerate i.e. criminality/loudness to justify the aggression. Nigerians have been attacked in SA several years ago and never retaliated. To be fair they don't instigate the troubles.
It is really painful to watch when Africa as a continent have bigger, deeper issues to deal with considering her past and where we should be. The sad truth about this all is none of these countries antagonising each other online are the real obstacles towards the progress and prosperity of each other. The only way to overcome that obstacle is in unity This really must stop.
thank you for taking the time to detail your thoughts and observations....
To your 1st point - I'm going to insert a response under a separate but related comment as I believe the same answer applies here ["... 3. "Nigerias are loud" - if we paused on the sensitivity around the word (which I fully acknowledge but bear with me whilst I make my point), typically the energy in a Nigerian brings to the table is very different, especially when compared to the southern parts of Africa, which is the focus in this video. When I personally say Nigerians are loud I'm not talking about turn of voice alone. A Nigerian is loud in their command, decisions, confidence and their risk appetite. It has been used as a derogatory term but that is not my intentions here whatsoever. In my video I did not make this to be a bad or a good thing, it is what it is from my pov.
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Your 2nd - my efforts here are not to make a comparison that leads into bragging rights. This is not a who is better or who handled colonialism better, etc. It's simply highlighting the strengths of each country full stop. Any country that went through colonialism deserves credit/slack for their efforts during and after such a time. If either Nigerians or South Africans are use their history as bragging rights, these in the mindsets as we need to be tabling and checking. I see my video and others similar as a conversation starter, not a conclusion, let alone a totally encompassing one.
Your 3rd - I agree with everything in this point! Most especially "Divide and Rule"
The rest, all I can say is thank you for spelling out what needs to be tabled. Hopefully we can do it in a mature, kind and results focused manner. 🫶🏾
Long essay which is absolutely useless. Nigerians can never measure up to South Africans we are way better off than you lot, we don't drown in the ocean and our people are not slaves in Libya, to mention South Africa in a same sentence with Nigeria should be an offense punishable with capital punishment.
We don't need unity! It is a fraudulent idea. We have buy into it and has ruined Nigeria. In fact, Nigeria is backward today because we put other Africans first and that has to stop. We should love ourselves first and fix our country and that is the best way to go. Enough is enough. South Africans can eff off our country with their businesses today least I care. I really don't know why Nigerians are really visiting or going to live in that country and praising it to the detriment of Nigeria.
We need to wake up from slumber in Nigeria and when we do South Africa cannot be a competition at all. In fact, South Africa is using this Africa opportunity to enrich itself. By the time we put a limit to what is Africa, whether it is what should be accepted in the area of trade, politic, economy and otherwise or entry of businesses into Africa South Africa shouldn't be allowed to be the gateway. Most African countries give South Africa this opportunity by default when businesses are entering into Africa and it contributes to the development of the country. What we all should say and do is let South Africa be the gateway because of infrastructure to South Africa not Africa. It is time to ask for the right of other African countries to say no. If you want to do anything in Africa it must be where it is needed not when it is should fits before reaching into other parts. Thank you.
And you are so hating on South Africa I can see through you
She is Zimbabwean. Enough said.
@@mpram5522minute I heard her saying I'm Zimbabwean, I knew it was coming out a place of hate😂
@@pablosa1571 it’s the green monster jealous coming out. Imagine hating your neighbours children because your parents didn’t want to think
Why won't she when you call Zimbabweans smelling armpits? Silly!
What if home affairs department actually made a mistake about chicis mother buying someone else ID. What is home affairs actually gave her someone ID by error. Come to think of it, the home affairs, in their statement, said, the woman whose ID was stolen, was given a new ID within months, which is safe to say in that same year. Which begs the question, why is is then difficult for home affairs department to do the same for others whose IDs were stolen. I think home affairs department themselves know they had made a mistake, hence they couldn't even stop chidima and her mother from traveling 😂😂😂
It was not a mistake, her father and mother also had fake ID’s
Chichi father Nigerian 🇳🇬 and Mother Mozambique 🇲🇿 nothing Nothing South African about Chichi, Trevor Father German and Mother South African it’s not the same
Thank you for the correction… I found out after making the video that it came out her mum wasn’t South African.
@@withOhleenIt burned out that SAs Home Affairs lied about Chichi stealing someone's identity. Chichi was born in South Africa before the laws on citizenship were changed. Chichi was born South African legally. The Home Affairs will have a lot of explaining to do in court.
@@rotimikayode1072 😂😂 my dear you are wrong. The fact that her citizenship was fraudulently obtained, means all is null and void. Status gets revoked because of the fraud that took place on 2001. 😂😂
@@rotimikayode1072your smoking socks😂 who told you this?the investigation is still on going
Last year a Ms South Africa runner up Mellissa Nayamuli gets similar treatment as Chichi ,her Mother is Xhosa.A trend in there somewhere.
You can not be having perspectives sisi about South Africa as we have more than 10 different cultures and yet grounded by our ubuntu , under ubuntu we are not supposed to shout and yell at other people as that shows a level of disrespect.What West Africa believes i n is completely different as they stand for dominance.Next time you must engange with South African people to understand our lienage firstly if you really know South African people as the Zulu people of the state no one would question Chidimna`s Zulu heritage because she would have a Zulu name even if its not in an Id because of South African spiriatuality or nick name /bynaam.There is more to us the people the people of South Africa ,study the people and their culture not South Africa as a state.
I love your opinion from Nigeria.
Zambia and Zimbabwe are not beefing it's banter
Are we sure about that? That’s not what it looks like when you read comments and listen to conversations/debates.
Somalis against Ethiopians. Kenyans against Somalis, Eritreans against Ethiopians. Somalis against Ugandans or vice versa. It's all messed up!
@TheLutheranDude7938 when you spell it out like this hopefully we will see what’s in plain sight
@@withOhleen the average percentage energy devoted to hate and beefing between people of these countries also correspond to the high rate of unemployment within them. Fun fact is that unemplyed african youths are still able to afford onlne data. 😆
I totally agree with you on Nigerian pushing spirit to the extent of being a threat to others. However its bnot all Nigerians that rub it on others,a part of Nigerians do that, but I don't want to mention name.
In as much as i appreciate your views, i want to state categorically that south Africans are suffering from trauma caused by apartheid! Yes few Nigerians may go at the wrong ways! But south Africans are the real people though ( SOME ) that commit evil. They should change, we are brothers and sisters! The white keep united while black keep divided, WHY
Your videos is incomplete, in terms of infrastructure, you haven't visit Nigeria, but you feel South Africa infrastructure is more better, visit first before you split nonsense
I have been to Nigeria Hun. Also i think you meant to say "spill"
@@actornamso2527 Its research that tells us that countries with the best infrastructure in Africa are: 1. Botswana 2. South Africa 3. Ghana and then Seychelles. Nigeria does not even come at the top five
Remain in your Nigeria and I ll remain in my SA
@@Marysmmiiith- lool shows how much you know genius! loool! Ghana? south Africa? Botswana - you are just a local jingo and I am willing to bet that you have NEVER been to Nigeria oh and just for your information, the whole country of south Africa is like one big dirty ghetto compared to Rwanda, which is better than all the countries you have just mentioned - so do me a favour and go back to school! Unbelievable!!
@@withOhleen - teehehe and just look who's talking? Dude chill and don't get ahead of your self! You think we don't hear you forcing to speak English and failing miserably?? lool!
This one makes a lol of sense 👌🏾
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You tried your best to be neutral my sister but ignorant and arrogant people will not receive this message.
we can only hope! at least let this be a starter🤲🏾
Thank you my sister, you said many things which I agree with, but in reality Chidima 's mom is not South African.
She has been very quiet throughout this miss South Africa fiasco which is unusual for any South African. Home Affairs department found out that she bought identy from a corrupt staff at home affairs which is very strange for South African to do that, cos every child born by South African women automatically become South African no need to buy Identity.
In South Africa it's not enough to be born here. You must also have a parent that is South African as well. They changed the laws a little bit. If a foreigner has a child with a South African, that foreigner does not become South African. They changed the rules a bit because they were being abused by the foreign nationals.
You bring such lame comparisons about love???? Why are they hated everywhere else beside south africa????? Just behave when you are in someone's land period
I take it you from the south of Africa? Please elaborate which parts are “lame” and help me make it “unlame”…
@@withOhleen why are you hardworking brothers and sisters not wanted in other countries around the world is it that they are not liked and people are jealous of them????????
@michaelntwampe4064 can you elaborate and give an example of what you mean?
@@withOhleen i don't have time for your denial and ignorance you guys are the giants of Africa right.....fix your country and make it great stop bothering other people in their own country
@@withOhleen you guys are an embarrassment to the nations of Africa
Sorry you are wrong there is no evidence that Miss Nigeria's mother is South African.
No South African parent need to be involved in fraud activities to register the birth of their child despite the other parent being a foreign national.
South Africa is a country that was built and developed by the British, not by South Africans or their government. Like other African countries that gained independence in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, the colonial rulers exploited their wealth and left. However, South Africa is the only African country where the British colonial empire invested in development. Some of the descendants of the colonial rulers their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren are still in South Africa, and much of the wealth still belongs to them, including individuals like F. W. de Klerk who was the president from 1989 to 1994.
Well! Isn’t that interesting
And? 😂😂😂😂
Dear, you need to come off your high horse, Zimbabweans are NoT liked by South Africans either…
I think you’ve missed the point
Dont make it look like the damage in the bolt war was in equal measure. 😂😂😂 Because we all know that southafrica was the worst hit.😂😂 The bollt app crashed in SA, leading to astronomic hike in charging rates, and many being stranded. but it never did in Nigeria. 😂
not sure thats a laughing matter but here we are
Stop lying South Africans mostly uses taxis not bolt. You won no war it you and your people who are always crying foul of us.
That’s your problem and anyone who doesn’t feel comfortable about it, that high energy is yielding good results to us and why should we tame or slow it down?
SA are going to learn the hard way let them continue to embrace their oppressors
It’s not about taming. There are ways to be yourself whilst still being etiquette and respectful regardless of your opinions of the place or its people.
@@withOhleen do you while we do us,we are not slowing down for no one and no one can slow us down anyway, what you see is just organic and it’s natural we are not trying to be anyone or copy anyone so you ain’t going to slow it down, it’s a gift that’s keep giving and the beauty of it all is WE LOVE OURSELVES irrespective of external criticism
This is a very balanced assessment of the situation. It shows the brilliance of a typical Zimbabwean. The most educated people on the continent of Africa 😮😅😊
it is a truth! we love a book😂
@@EbiEyikorogha-tc5de just picking up sheets to cover your fence😂😂😂
do you mean black government in SA in 30 years nothing happens under us , when you say all the infrastructure done by colonial as if they were working alone,
My point is centred on the history behind how South Africa became a first/second world country. No other country has the same rate of colonial settlement which contributed to faster development. That’s not me saying the black government has done “nothing”.
Yes, they were working alone. Who else's brain produced south africa? When this downward spiral finally completes.. it's some people's brain too.
@@TheLutheranDude7938South Africa has developed more since 1994.
Economy has.more.than tripled since then.
@@ohlangeni oh.. really? So why are you still at the super lowest bottom?
@@TheLutheranDude7938 Black South Africans as a group hold more wealth than White South Africans as a group. We have more households, and total asset holding.
Black South Africans are the wealthiest Black African population in Africa.
In real terms, we have tripled the size of the economy since 1994.
Having said this; why are you fighting to be in our space, imposing Nigerians on us when we have clearly rejected those people?
Well said and thoughtfull.
Thank you 🫶🏾
All these numbers talk you guys are talking about Nigerians is not it all, it is one of our least acces. Everything in Nigeria is build by Nigerians and Nigerians only. No foreign hands in it and we are very proud and loud about ourselves and no apology to anybody. Unlike South Africa rainbow nation without a black color was built by white south Africans and Europeans. What hace black south Africans contributed to their country and Africa. For Godsake, you guys, should just let us breath and we are breathing well. Everybody just want to trend on Nigeria. Whatever it is, it is what it is....nobody no country can pull us down. We lead while other African countries follow. We are Africans, we are bkack and proud
There huge issues regarding identity theft in South Africa.
There is a huge issue regarding illegal migrants in South Africa.
You can only blame the Government for this mess.
Nigerians naturally are born huslers, rich or poor all wants to hustle and learn from different environment. Learning to us do not end in classroom, we want to know more and become the best. And you cannot judge Nigeria just because u went to lagos. Nigeria has 36 state with diverse people
Who cares wat south Africa ,thinks of us !
thats a very short-sighted pov sadly...
Stop calling south Africa a giant, NIGERIA IS THE ONLY GIANT OF AFRICA.
We don't care for this title sir...We are here for actions not lip service and useless titles
this!
Let the GIANTS stay in their own COUNTRY AND FIGHT THEIR BATTLES
@@thamaryhlongwane7119 Tell em
Dude, we do not care about the giant status at all, neither do we care about billionaires unless if they make a difference
Yeah no people, you better unsubscribe now, I've seen this ladies comments through out the comment section, she's extremely biased, very unprofessional.
Which side am I biased toward? I'm very curious...
If well-spoken was a person, you'd be her. I hope those who hear, hear.
Really appreciate! Thank you. I do hope they hear too.
Guys let us rest .this is getting old
YOU SAID CHIDI'S MOTHER IS SOUTH AFRICAN, I BET YOU MADE NO MISTAKE THERE. BAFETHU BEWARE OF THESE PEOPLE THEIR ONLY LOOKING FOR A CONTENT IT'S SAD REALLY.
Let them succeed in their countries
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You seem to be unaware of how South Africans feel about Zimbabweans.
Educate me…
@@withOhleen They're not exactly welcomed with open arms either. They do fare off better than Nigerians though because they can easily camouflage themselves into South African society and sometimes their surnames are similar to South African surnames.
You mentioned how South Africans are still healing and your tone seemed to be a bit derisive. Just imagine being in the process of healing from trauma and being bombarded by people running away from violence and poverty en masse into your space. This obviously will interrupt your healing and you will have to spend time defending your space and resources. Please do yourself a favour and just do some quick research on how Zimbabweans behave in South Africa.
I also want to mention that there is no country in the world that welcomes an influx of illegal immigrants. The whole world at the moment has issues with this but somehow South Africans are being told to just accept this merely because the illegal immigrants are also African. This kind of thinking is incredibly backward. Why for example doesn't the same guilt tripping apply in Asia? Why can't illegal Vietnamese people just go and settle in South Korea and sell drugs and run scams? Would people call South Koreans xenophobic if they protested this?
@@withOhleen I wrote quite a long response and I'm horrified to see that it isn't reflecting. 😢
It is reflecting and I’m going to take my time to respond to you. Thank you so much.🫶🏾
Thank you so much for spelling this out... Appreciate it! It's not that I'm unaware, it's that I want to focus on the topic at hand in this specific video but inserted relevant examples/information here and there.
The "still healing" process - This is an important fact I really agree with - I also agree with the necessity to have the space and resources to help. My only question here is could it be you are expressing your frustration and upset at people when it's your systems/government/policies that need reviewing to reflect what the south africans want and need today? Could it be immigrants are not the real issue but your policies (or lack of)?
I also agree with your way of thinking in your last point. It's a very important analysis that needs to be tabled by everyone. Here is to hoping content like this will get us having the right conversation...
You mentioned "camouflage themselves" - something about that whole sentence is very sad i have to say...
Nigeria is the best, we Nigerians build our country not white
define best and define build?
Some of the biggest banking , retail and Tech companies operating in Nigeria are owned by white South Africans . Shell is owned by which race ? Please.
You are misinformed about chidima
Nigeria is far better than south africa
Can you elaborate in what sense is it “far better”
In terms or what? You will tell us you have many billionaires? See we don't see success the same , for us success is having a high quality of life for all, Thats what we are fighting for. I don't care about the billionaires unless they make a difference
Name one business you know a Nigeria have in South Africa behind what are they selling.
I’ve never seen an honest Nigerian
A honest Nigerian you mean to write. I have never come across a smart South African before.
@@youme1414 Even the English don't speak perfect textbook English. Pity you can't use the English to clean your streets and improve sanitation, it is filthy there. Sanitation-wise you are a century behind SA. It's gonna take more than insults to catch up.
South africans has problems with Nigerians and you said the reasons why that is right?. And you said you are from Zimbabwe you guys are gentle and laid back, you obey the law of the land anywhere you go right?. Can you please tell me why same South Africans are having problems with Zimbabweans? a bigger problem than they even have with Nigerians. Yet you obey the laws, gentle and laid back?. The infrastructure you talked about how has it affected average black south Africans in a positive way? The infrastructure they own or the one they are still slave to?. You are from Zimbabwe right, please tell me the state of infrastructure in Zimbabwe.
You must start by congragulating Tyla and Nigeria is populous for nothing , plz im not a fan of Nigeria and plz stop comparing
Good analysis. But for me taken the lives of other because of women, loosing in business, or any other competition is outrightly wrong. Hating on your fellow blacks who helped you gain your present freedom is foolishness and ingratitude(not only Nigeria in this case), this has nothing to do with healing from d aperthid trauma.
Selling white powder to children of people you claimed to have helped is extremely insane.
You are very beautiful. You look like the Zimbabwean girl , my Nigerian friend bought a house for in London . Goodluck to you.
very random but thanks
@@withOhleen Nigerians are everywhere. Don't be so surprised it might be true.
Our laws dont give citizenship to a child born of foreign nationals,Trevor Noah is Xhosa and Swiss one of the parents is SA and the law allows that.please stop making Trevor a skipgoat
Every of your submissions about Nigeria are loopsided. You can't judge us by few hustlers that travel to your countries.
Come legal do a proper business then nobody will be jelous of your success.
The word Giant has led many people astray, everywhere they spit that word when they open their mouths you should know people are lost.🤪
Please! Stop comparing Nija to SA, I don't understand this comparison at all🤪
the focus here is not comparison
After all the development level of South Africans is not fully their own making but that of their former masters during Apartheid. Yet. We are still proud of this country because it is an Africa country with very promising future if only the country's governance now in the hands of Black South Africans is way better that Africans experience in their respective countries. God save Africa
We had Kingdoms.
Thank you for highlighting 🙏🏾
Says a person with a british Accent😂
your point being?
The human development index of Nigeria is high . South Africans are proud of infrastructure built for them while Nigerians are building theirs . At the end we will know who has the real formula.
Chidimna’s father is Nigerian and her mother is from Mozambique. Her mother was accused of identity theft which is how Chidimna was granted citizenship despite her not having knowledge of it. A lot of South Africans suffer from identity theft as home affairs will do shady deals like this and it only increases the tension between South Africans and foreigners.
Madam, the so called first world infrastructure was not built by the blacks, these are legacies of Apartheid. It's ironic to be proud of such. On thebother hands Nigeria was actively involved in the liberation of black SAns from Apartheid.
Finally how is SA the pace setters? In what category? All what you described of SA economic, industrial are dominated by their 7.3% white minority against 85+% black majority. So if you claimed that Nigeria has numbers then why are the numbers of the black South Africans not speaking for them? It's not about numbers. The numbers theory is a dumb one.
Don't blame South Africans for maintaining their colonial infrastructure, it's not our fault that you people failed to improve and maintain the infrastructure left behind by lord Lugard.😂😂
@@thuthukanisjaka2597 Not only did we maintain our infrastructure we also did not go into years and years of destructive tribal wars. We also went straight into developing the country straight after independence. We hit the ground running and built SA , sought direct foreign investment and upskilled our people instead of embarking on stupid tribal wars.
quiet ur mouth and stop talking about Nigeria.......I love Nigeria
fortunately that's not how the world works
BS.
thank you Collin... at least you showed up
Chidimma mama is Mozanbiqueian
Your talking trash.
Adding salt to injury.
You insult us, Nigerians by talking rubbish about Nigerians.
Most Nigerians at home are richer than those in diaspora.
With did Chidimma do to you SA?
Why did you start you the bolt nonsense?
The word "African" being slipped into every conversation except African Manners"and respect.. Because theý're there but they're not being applied to South Africa. Having the same skin colour shouldn't be a pass for people you don''t even know cause chaos in a country that many suffered for. South Africans cannot debate/seek-validation with/from people outside of it's yard. It's pure disrespect at this point that the country's name is being cheapened online by people who have no clue about what's going on
Get your facts right
Fake and pretentioua.
It's clear you are dumb enough to not process the message in the video.
i think you mean "pretentious"