Canon 1014 XL-S Super 8mm In-depth Camera Tutorial
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- ***Second sample 8mm footage clip got messed up in export (sometimes this happens to me on FCPX) and didn't notice until I already uploaded but you can see from he other clips a general idea as to what the footage should look like.
8mm spec film I shot with this camera:
• 8mm Film Spec Commerci...
This is an in-depth tutorial on how to use the Canon 1014 XL-S 8mm camera.
Place in Burbank, Los Angeles were I bought the film and got it developed:
www.pro8mm.com
#tutorial #Canon1014XL-S #filmmaking
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ATTN: If you don't adjust the diopter for your vision, you will not be able to nail focus. Not covered in this video.
This is so helpful! Thanks a lot!
thanks for the info and showing the sample footage right away
Great stuff. Never used one of these but heard good things. The footage certainly looks amazing. I'm about to start (when corona is less of an issue) sound film. I'll be using a Braun Nizo Integral 7. Got some expired sound film and the lab said they would process them for me.
An amazing camera.
I have three of them. They are superb.
Found one at a thrift shop today, with the top removable microphone.
Lucky duck!
Just a heads up 24fps is in no way a slow motion feel.... its the most natural and used in the modern era ubiquitously. 18 will look slightly sped up but will indeed have a "classic" super 8 look.
Just FYI nobody makes sound film anymore. So I am experimenting with mounting a gopro on top and syncing it later to the film.
That's a great idea!
I got a regular 1014 coming in... hoping it's still this cool!
Very helpful
Really thorough video! What can I do when the viewfinder is showing an “End” message, even on a new cartridge of film?
This prevents the film motor from advancing. Does anyone have advice on how to fix this problem?
This is such a great camera. I wish that I still had my old one!
Yes. They're very much a collectors item now.
@@ChrisOrrFilm Cioa friend .. I have the 814 I can use the Tascan as a microphone
I just found one brand new in my grand uncle stuff. Do you want to buy it ?
Very helpful video🤙
What tripod is recommended for a Canon 310, 514, or 1014?
Also, what are the differences between the 514 xl-s and the 1014 xl-s?
(I’m considering buying the 1014, but can’t find any direct comparison videos to know if it’s worth the price jump).
Seeing if anyone have had the same problem with their 1014 XL-S Saying "END" through the viewfinder, even when new rolls are in. Please let me know! Thank you!
i just bought the 814xl. when i turn my shutter angle onto indoor mode, the camera has this internal humming sound, and it only stops when i push it back to daylight mode. any idea why this might be happening?
thanks big homie
bought this camera in 1979 and made a lot of films with it. Later I bought the 814xl-s too. Most of the cameras sold at Ebay don‘t work any more 100% (espec. lens-problems, crossfade, zoom, lightmeter). The Nizo 6080 was a rival to this camera bec it was possible to insert 60m film cassettes and offered 25p/sec. Canon only works with 15m cassettes. Anyway, the 1014xl-s will always be my favorite.
For now I’m probably gonna purchase the regular version of the 1014 since the XLS version is currently out of my budget. But maybe some time in the future I’ll have enough dough to pony up for one. As for S8 cameras they seem more reliable than the Beaulieu 4008 series.
Now i'm finally knuckling down to purchase one in about a month...it's gonna be easy now that it's tax season.
Hi there, thanks for the great tutorial. Just shot my first roll on this cam and a lot of the images came back out of focus. Is this something to do with macro mode and how do I know if its enabled? Is it just staying clear of the yellow line in the focusing ring unless you are set to macro, meaning that the lease has a 4ft - infinity min and max in terms of focusing? thanks so much!
Did you figure it out. Having same problem
Friend I have 814 xl-s but it can't drag the film where can I interven
okei question. I also realized that this camera makes really nice footage.
i have a canon 514 XL
and a minolta 601 XL
and I think the footage looks almost the same (but only because of scanning and colourgrading) so do you think the same quality can be achieved when the colour grading and scanning is really good?
I saw this one online for purchase, but is like 300. (Update it's the 814 XL, Is there a difference? do you happen to know? :) )
also thought on buying the Nizo s800
and maybe a bolex B8L
what are your thoughts on these?
The sound functions of this camera are of no consequence since super 8 sound film has not been producedfor many years. Howeveryou can have these cameras modified for crystal sync at a cost !
Nice video Chris. Are you still using this camera these days?
Hey where did you rent this camera from I would be interested to rent it for a project?
Hi :) I just got this camera. I was wondering if it’s maybe not working properly. When I look through the viewfinder and slightly press the recording button the number lights up. I assume this is the light meter and should change but there is no move on numbers even this pointing the camera at different types of lights. Is this a sign it’s broken? Thank you
Yeah that’s probably the light meter you’re looking at. Does it have film in it when you’re changing exposure? It’s hard for me to say if it’s broken, I guess put some film in it and try it out. Once you get it developed if your film is way over or under exposed I guess that would mean something is broken. I’d also try putting new batteries in and seeing if that works.
make sure that the button for „auto“, „AE lock“, „manual“ is at „auto“. Then look through the viewfinder, slightly press the rec button and move the camera around in different positions (dark & light). If the lightmeter moves then it‘s ok.
@@64Berny Thanks friend I had the same problem and your education I solved and it was helpful, I hope to meet you and pay you a dinner .. I live in Italy
how do you know if you’re under or overexposed? what is the number inside the view finder that you should be at when filming outside on a sunny day? or what do these numbers mean? id hate to spend a $100 per film to try to figure this out.
The fiilm casette itself should have markings on it, letting the camera know if its a daylight film, like 50D, or any other
@@MrDukeSilverr thanks for reply - I’m curious about the numbers that appear inside the view finder which he mentions at 8:36 - i recently found it at the 26:00 mark in this video… th-cam.com/users/livelfpxj0vXdLY?si=FeR-A6BvAPhSxjs-
@@Chekmate99 the numbers are probably like the light meter of any other camera the f stops, so like 16, 11, 8, 5.6, 3.3 and so on, I think those are indicators as to how open or closed the aperture is, you can see when looking directly through the lense not the view finder that it’ll close or open depending on what f stop you have dialed, so like 3.3 means a lot of light coming through
@@MrDukeSilverr thanks
Hey chris I have a 1014 xls & the first time i shot with it everything went smoothly. Now it keeps telling me my film has ended after the first 10 seconds of filming. Any advice?
Did you have any luck solving this issue as I hear it happens on lots of these cameras?
Hey! My 1014 XL s is misbehaving, would you mind if I messaged you in case you recognise the symptoms?
It runs as soon as it's switched on (the trigger doesn't do anything, doesn't stop it). After running for 4 seconds or so, it sounds like it goes into reverse. Then it stops.
Thanks!
Hmm, that's strange. Yeah it sounds like some sort of internal issue going on. You're welcome to email me at chrisorr88@gmail.com but it may be an issue that's above my expertise.
Just my two cents... It sounds like your camera got a stuck "lap dissolve" button. That's my best guess. Could also be something in the electronics (it's CPU-controlled), which is worse...
Anyway, same thing happens with my mint and fully operational 1014XL-S when I move the shutter lever to the "lap dissolve" position and activate the "lap dissolve" function by pressing the button.
When that button is pressed, the camera continues running for a few seconds with the wind-up core stopped (to allow for rewinding of the "fade out" piece a few seconds later). The film is still being moved by the registration pin, and the shutter fades to black within a few seconds. After that the camera stops and auto-rewinds the "fade out" piece at high speed to double-expose it at the beginning of the next shot. The next shot automatically.begins with a fade-in, resulting in a lap dissolve.
just wondering why this camera is so sought after. compare to Nizo 6080 which is better?
I've never used the Nizo 6080 but I'm sure it works well. I don't know exactly why this particular camera is so sought after, my only guess is that it was a widely used model and feels like it has good build quality when you hold it in your hand. Also I think it has more in camera options than the Nizo 6080 but that's just my guess.
Question: On my canon 1014 it's as though the lap dissolve button won't push down. Could it be that it's stuck or is this normal on the camera? The other three buttons are pressable (SM, Exposure, camera mode)
Hmm. Sounds like it's probably stuck.
@@ChrisOrrFilm and to be clear the lever and switch work fine. Its the centre button that doesn't change when I press it.
It is a pity that kodak does not produce a sound cassette
Hey Chris, jus finished my first cartridge. After I finished the film it said END. I kept filming to see what would happen. Is there any chance I film over the beginning like a dummy? I no longer said end and just kept going?
It’s not possible to re tape over your footage. I would take it out if it reached the end though
@@ChrisOrrFilm Thanks for the info Chris! Great video too
Can you use lithium AA batteries inside ? (1.6V each)
Yes I believe that should be fine
@@ChrisOrrFilm Yes it does work fine with AA lithium batteries.
Just FYI frame rate doesn’t have anything to do with how much light goes in a picture.
it’s Shutter speed. lower the shutter the more light is allowed inside.
higher the shutter, the crispier image you get but you sacrifice light.
You must be used to making videos with mirrorless cameras where you set the shutter speed in terms of fractions of a second (eg; 1/60th/sec).
With video cameras you set the shutter in terms of degrees of a circle (eg; 180 degrees). The term ‘shutter angle’ comes from film cameras like this super 8; where the shutter is a rotating circle with a wedge cut out to let the light hit the film. When the circle spins it exposes the film through the open wedge and then when it spins to the side that blocks light the mechanism advances the film. The speed of the circular shutter is directly and mechanically linked to the mechanism which advances the film.
To put this into mirrorless terms filming at 24fps with a 180 degree shutter would effectively be filming at 1/48th sec. If you doubled the frame rate to 48fps the shutter angle is still at 180 degrees but now the effective shutter speed would equal 1/96th sec.
So on this Super 8 camera when you 1/2 the frame rate from 18fps to 9fps you’re doubling the time each frame is exposed to light. Frame rate does factor in to how much light hits the film.
.. Today, speaking with an obista, he told me this .... that .CANON 814 XL-S XLS..and. The biggest curse on the market are faulty the gears of the shutter coupling and the claw break? true?
why only 50 ft lenght ? music cassettes do have 300 feet.
I’m thinking about using this to film weddings? Would it be to risky do you think? Cause seems like there could be a lot of issues that could happen and I would hate for that to happen to the newly weds.
Well I'm sure you could shoot a wedding on it but I wouldn't for a couple reasons, the first being it's pretty expensive to buy the film + get it developed. Also you're just very limited on how much you can film since weddings are long so you'll probably burn a ton of film. That's also not including the fact that yes, I've had more issues with film cameras than digital so there's always a risk that something might not come out the way you want it. There's so many film matte overlays and grain textures you can get nowadays that people use in post to make it look like it was shot on film I'd just do that to be on the safer side.
@@ChrisOrrFilm appreciate the response, definitely helps.
I’ve shot 4 weddings with it and still am having troubles with how to really use the camera. It’s crazy how hard to get the settings right. Lighting. Focus etc. would recommend spending 400$ for testing before telling people you want to shoot their wedding
will shooting slow motion burn my film out a lot quicker?
Yes. Slowmo is more frames per second, which when played back at 24fps gives slowmo, so you are using a lot more film. If you are shooting at 48fps instead of 24fps, you are consuming the film twice as fast
Does this shoot single frames? Interested in doing stop motion.
Hey I've never tried shooting single frame on this so not 100% sure if you can or not. For stop motion I think it's more efficient/easier to just use a stills camera though, at least that's what I've found when doing stop motion in the past
@@ChrisOrrFilm Thanks for the quick response, I asked mainly as I’m interested in making a short film for this completion called straight 8 where you are challenged to make a film all edited in camera with no post production, they develop it for you so there is no way to edit in post. I had this idea of making the short where it had some small stop motion sequences so not a complete stop motion short, only in parts. So I asked mainly to find out if the camera is capable of taking single frames, it’s fine if it doesn’t I just read that apparently it can but no video I’ve seen mentions it.
@@ChrisOrrFilm Managed to find more information on this, you can take single frames you just set the 2nd dial at the top to “s” to shoot single frames, this was literally one of the defining reasons of whether or not I was going to buy one so I’m glad I found this out.
@@artofsam Right on! happy you figured it out. That's good info to know! I'm still learning new things about this camera myself
I have that same camera, I don't know if it works, I sell it, how much do they offer?
Sell it to me !
:o)
@@alexabadi7458 How much do you offer
@@ema.dominico I can't buy it from you because I don't know to fix them, but I think you could sell it for a few hundreds bucks if if still look good and works.
@@alexabadi7458
I don't know if it works or not
@@ema.dominico i bought mine for around 950 usd
I don't find focus easy at all
This is an amazing camera, but 100$ is reeeeeally EXPENSIVE. A much cheaper way to shoot super 8 is just cutting 2x8 super fomapan r, mounting into reusable cartridge and developing at home.
Just found one in my granduncle things. Want to sell it ? Someone interested ? (brand new, with microphone, cartridge and everything).
Also found "Super 16 Pathé Webo" and a "Kodak EK8 Instant Camera"
@@michelmichel37 yes I would be very interested. Is there an email I could reach you at? Mine is chrisorr88@gmail.com
100$? screw that.