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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 เม.ย. 2014
  • An introduction to why and when terminations are needed for transmission lines in both high speed digital applications and RF applications. 50 ohm termination examples are given, but the principles apply for other line impedances as well. The basic operating principles of signal propagation down a transmission line and the effects of reflections coming from improperly terminated are covered. Examples for digital-like signals as well as RF signals are given. A description and examples of what is meant by Standing Waves is also given. As a bonus, the properties of quarter wavelength transmission lines in RF applications is also presented. Notes from the video can be found here:
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  • @Aemilindore
    @Aemilindore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I think that video is a 100 years of RF experience packed into 19.14 minutes.

  • @davidrick959
    @davidrick959 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd been looking for a tutorial that I could recommend to audio engineers who need to understand word clock distribution but don't want to be buried in math. This is it! Your explanations and demonstrations are simply superb!

  • @ZzSlumberzZ
    @ZzSlumberzZ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Using that transparent sheet to explain superposition of traveling waves to produce standing waves is GENIUS.
    You sir never cease to amaze with your ability to explain things lucidly.

    • @rajaspoorna6405
      @rajaspoorna6405 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely!! That transparent reflection was indeed sheer genius!!

  • @wyw4466
    @wyw4466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was underestimated how deep you going with transmission termination from the title of this video, this is a great video!!

  • @Thinks-First
    @Thinks-First ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alan's ability to explain phenomenon is unequaled. I learned so much that I have been hazy about for years. Thanks, Alan.

  • @pyrokinetikrlz
    @pyrokinetikrlz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    No words can describe the high educational content of this video, even for experienced RF engineers!!!! So good to visualize the effects of the transmission line (and not imagining the equations)

  • @pvc988
    @pvc988 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I like how this principle applies to all kinds of waves, be it acoustic, mechanical, light or whatever wave you can imagine.

    • @ericpilboue3276
      @ericpilboue3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oui, meme pour supprimer un bruit parasite dans un conduit de fumée. Avec un tube raccordé avec un T et un bouchon reglable.

  • @robinharris4706
    @robinharris4706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been had a ham radio license for 43 years and until I watched this video transmission lines were a 'bit of magic' to me. Brilliant explanation and superb practical demonstrations. I'm going to try some experiments with my new understanding......Thank you!

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience 10 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Nice visualization of standing waves! Great video all around!

  • @nogeek43
    @nogeek43 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Now why didn't my instructor in EE 101 lab make us perform this experiment. This is the best description of standing waves I have ever seen!

  • @HeilmanHackatronics
    @HeilmanHackatronics 10 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This has confused me for years, After watching this video it all makes perfect sense.

    • @edmclaughlin4923
      @edmclaughlin4923 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matt Heilman Studying for my HAM Test on May 17th. Every word he said made sense. In fact, I just read about "standing waves" in the HAM study material. I went back and watched all his HAM related stuff.

  • @hargharg
    @hargharg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Software/electrical engineer here. When I'm trying to brush up on a topic and stumble on your videos, I always take time to watch. You have a real knack for explaining things in simple terms. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm glad you're enjoying my videos and find them useful.

  • @RSP13
    @RSP13 8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I am of the opinion that the world is a better place with you on it.

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +RenanzinhoSP Thank you!

    • @davidausterman5915
      @davidausterman5915 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. We need more w2aew's running around.

    • @christophschuermann6512
      @christophschuermann6512 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      RSP I agree! :-)

    • @39953995sj
      @39953995sj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree with you. Best explanation among I've ever learned in universities for over 10 years

    • @JohnRaschedian
      @JohnRaschedian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course!

  • @stevocalic2978
    @stevocalic2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I could, I'd give you not one, but one million likes for every single video that you've made.

  • @matambale
    @matambale ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best scope-based explanation and demonstration of standing waves since the term was defined. +100 points. Another 100 points for the demonstration of how reflection creates constructive and destructive interference with that piece of glass. Clever!

  • @Ne3M1
    @Ne3M1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reflection in the piece of plastic is absolutely brilliant. I'm busy watching all your videos, incredible wealth of knowledge.

  • @user-zc8sd8jx8s
    @user-zc8sd8jx8s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now THIS is why I had to plug in those little shiny terminators when I helped to build a coaxial ethernet network back in school. now, 25 years later, I finally learned it.

  • @totbenru
    @totbenru 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For over 20 years, I got away with RF builds without fully understanding transmission lines. With this single video, only now, was I able to completely wrap my brain around the concept. Thumbs up!

  • @StanleySeow
    @StanleySeow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video and the best explanations on SWR graphically...

  • @Parirash123
    @Parirash123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic demonstration. Explanation with that reflective plastic was just wow.

  • @StevePietras
    @StevePietras 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent tutorial. It is interesting to apply the L/C digital waveform distortion demonstration as applied to say Cat-6e cable and then think of exceeded radius bends and improperly terminated cable. Makes one realize the forward error correction in IP communication is actually saving the very data you are trying to get. All I.T. professionals should be required to learn these transmission line properties as fundimentals at the physical layer of IP.

  • @actyon20
    @actyon20 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unbelievable. I have no words that can describe my thankfulness for what you are doing. I want to cry and hug you.

  • @legionaire4017
    @legionaire4017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    watching this video again after seeing it a year ago and it never ceases to amaze me how well you explain complicated topics. I greatly appreciate your efforts in making these great quality videos and sharing them with everyone! Thank you and please know a lot of people have benefited from your knowledge and teaching abilities!

  • @battlecoder
    @battlecoder 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By FAR the clearest explanation I've seen about line termination, wave reflection, standing waves, etc.
    Your videos are all outstanding.
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

  • @tonyberg1249
    @tonyberg1249 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Alan for this informative video lesson. I've been a General Class ham for nearly 38 years and worked in the commercial antenna industry for decades and I've never had these principles explained so well. It gives the viewer a deep understanding of things that are hard to visualize. 73, Tony WB9UZY

  • @Disillusioned_one
    @Disillusioned_one 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, brought back memory's of being a tv engineer and co ax problems in very large buildings.

  • @Avionics1958
    @Avionics1958 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WOW, thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us again, but more over your ability to transfer this wealth is amazing. Thank you.

  • @martshal
    @martshal 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your vids are just stellar, clearly presented, well thought-out, without tons of editing ”chops”. Thank you for what you do.

  • @mumtazshamsee5029
    @mumtazshamsee5029 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! Finally someone that can teach! God bless you!

  • @micheleporcu2287
    @micheleporcu2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will treasure this channel. Absolute love.

  • @damny0utoobe
    @damny0utoobe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Transmission lines are so fundamental.
    It should be more emphasized in school the way you've done it here

  • @bertronixtv
    @bertronixtv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My favorite channel w2aew. Thank you very much for wonderfull videos/lectures.

  • @flyingfrancisco
    @flyingfrancisco 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great lesson! You never cease to amaze and inform me.
    Thx

  • @stephendeese97
    @stephendeese97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has to be one of the most valuable videos I have ever watched. Fantastic job!

  • @timthompson468
    @timthompson468 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. This helped me troubleshoot a problem. I recently purchased an HP 3589A off ebay. I bought it to learn more about network analysis. I watched your video on dBm, bBu, etc., but my results were way off. I was afraid the analyzer was out of calibration, but when I ran the test from this video, I noticed my terminator had no effect. I measured the terminator and found it open. Replacing it, I was able to observe the results you show in this video, and found my 3589A measures correctly with the proper termination. I also learned that buying cheap terminators off Amazon.com is a mistake. Thanks for the good work.

  • @shashanklingala5032
    @shashanklingala5032 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m very lucky to come across your channel at early stage of my career....thanks for the videos

  • @KeenanTims
    @KeenanTims 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best presentation of this topic I've seen. Awesome, thanks.

  • @user-sb5vp3yu8m
    @user-sb5vp3yu8m ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really helpful to see what is happening with the explanation! Thanks

  • @EliasVanLorien
    @EliasVanLorien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos on TH-cam

  • @stitchinginthebarn8307
    @stitchinginthebarn8307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spring 2021 THANK YOU! You just explained the hows and whys of the first 3 weeks of my EMAG class! Now all the math makes sense!

  • @jeffreystroman2811
    @jeffreystroman2811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Sir, deserve at least a cookie, one of the most beneficial 20 minutes I have seen regarding this topic. May your transmission lines be free of null points, unless self-induced for various reasons.

  • @das250250
    @das250250 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a premium resource for electronics on par with the best . I have seen this a few times for both electronic review and non electronic purposes .ty

  • @kyleshim361
    @kyleshim361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't stop watching your vidoes. So good that I can learn something even when I'm familiar with it.

  • @SunriseAt2008
    @SunriseAt2008 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing teaching skills. I loved the explanation with the "sheet of plastic". Very visual. Thanks a lot for your time and efforts in making this video.

  • @MrLRankin2
    @MrLRankin2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to actually see what standing waves actually look like on an actual wire!
    Great tutorial.

  • @DAVET38
    @DAVET38 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting and down-to-earth explanation Allan. I found it very useful. Thank you

  • @gregdingus8974
    @gregdingus8974 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow what a great series! Many moons ago a job I had taught me the ins and out of RF signal tuning in a lab environment. I was fortunate enough to learn the whole process. Of course these were mechanical rigs we were tuning but same idea. Kudos for you for taking the time.!

  • @whysguy3
    @whysguy3 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much better explanation than my professor gave us for a lab we did a few weeks ago! By explaining the application of this technique it becomes crystal clear. Thank you!

  • @fatha12
    @fatha12 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one. A much better explanation than any of my tutors ever gave who solely relied on the mathematical explanation.

  • @andrewchen6226
    @andrewchen6226 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for your videos! Seeing a visual representation really makes things much easier to understand.

  • @JeramieCurtice
    @JeramieCurtice 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Terminators are also needed to terminate signal leakage and ingress points. Open connections and impairments in the line allow for the line to act like an antenna itself. This unbalances the actual antenna that is hooked up. A simple terminator tricks the system into thinking equipment is hooked up by means of a resistor inside the terminator.

  • @jaa1969jaa
    @jaa1969jaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation ever. Where were you when I needed you 30 years ago?

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm - 30 years ago... ....I was working, learning a lot of this stuff in the "school of hard knocks".

  • @SuburbanDon
    @SuburbanDon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the best explanation I've ever seen.

  • @VorpalForceField
    @VorpalForceField 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was the best explanation for termination and reflection I have ever seen.
    You rock ..!!

  • @OxTongue0
    @OxTongue0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Appreciate your efforts put into making this video
    It is wonderful explanation ,
    You used a simple transparent plastic to explain standing wave that’s a nice technique
    thanks

  • @BradMorrisKA3YAN
    @BradMorrisKA3YAN 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. Extremely clear and coherent explanation. Thank you again Alan for a fantastic video!!

  • @michelgrenier1568
    @michelgrenier1568 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very usefull, I have not studied this field well in my tech life and I learn every day, thanks

  • @rosshollinger8097
    @rosshollinger8097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was very enlightening. Thank you for your thorough explanations. You're always constructive, not destructive. :D (had to say it)

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed IMMENSELY. Answered a number of questions I had. Many ah-ha light bulb moments... TEACHING: The most honorable, invaluable professions next to a ER doctor saving my life 😉 Thanks so much 👍😁

  • @radoslawbiernacki
    @radoslawbiernacki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sir, this is the best explanation I saw in my life ;)

  • @jcims
    @jcims 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know if you teach for a living but you're quite skilled at it (i would say gifted but that doesn't pay proper respect to the level of effort you put into it). I've been tinkering with amateur radio for a while now and I know for a fact that i have learned and relearned what impedance matching is and how it can affect signals...but until now I've never really had more than a tenuous grasp of the concept.
    Somehow just watching you walk through the propagation on paper in the first couple of minutes is what really did it for me (impedance matched lesson i suppose, lol). Seeing it all play out so clearly on the scope is such a modern luxury and just drove the point home that mind-boggling speeds and inconceivably short timescales don't somehow give you license to ignore the details...they still matter greatly.
    I guess all this is just a verbose thank you, but i didn't want to cut any of it out. :)
    Thanks!

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent explanation of a difficult to grasp subject. Alan's
    my go-to guru.

  • @wk2w
    @wk2w 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't thank you enough for all of your videos. Great information, thoroughly explained.

  • @ronaldlijs
    @ronaldlijs 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Alan AGAIN! Perfectly well explained in simple terms, perfect! Keep them coming and thanks again!

  • @hamedtakarli1894
    @hamedtakarli1894 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good and visual explanation. I love watching your unique videos.

  • @robbvk6es
    @robbvk6es 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Ask you you shall recieve. I requested a video on this subject last week and we all got a very clear, understandable and well demonstrated summation. Thanks Alan

  • @MrHvfan
    @MrHvfan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    thanks one of the best explainations i have seen

  • @patriciocohen8081
    @patriciocohen8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are pure gold. Thank you very much!

  • @harishmehta2992
    @harishmehta2992 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and best explanation I have ever seen

  • @kkingkrylon
    @kkingkrylon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow, one of the best videos seen on youtube! thank you for the good videos!!!

  • @bradleysmith681
    @bradleysmith681 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beautiful explanation! How many of us have been told that 'energy is reflected' but have never understood *how* it's reflected? What causes the electrons to travel back to the source? I've searched but have never seen an explanation--until now... Now I understand!! Excellent presentation!!

  • @FesixGermany
    @FesixGermany 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent explanation, now I finally understand how this all works.

  • @DeeegerD
    @DeeegerD 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done and well explained. You obviously spent considerable time planning this one.

  • @DarkInsanePyro
    @DarkInsanePyro 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. Describes the behavior very well. Thank you.

  • @lomart
    @lomart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very clear and interesting video. Really well done, congratulations!

  • @nicksix71
    @nicksix71 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Great explanation and demonstration. My first transmitter (a little FM bug circuit) transmitted well at 89mhz.....and 92.....and 94.....and 105.... Now I get it! Thanks.

  • @m3atwady
    @m3atwady 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!! Thanks for making this!! I'm a digital guy and these videos are really helpful!!

  • @craumh
    @craumh 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanation, I finally understood what needs to be perfect matches between the transmitter antenna, and what should be Balun end of the transmission line! Thanks

  • @MultiPix5
    @MultiPix5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is truely amazing !!! HUGE THANKS ! Moreover, at the end of this video I thought it would be cool to visualize the standing wave by gliding a probe on an open cable and.. Quickly found out the #208 vid where you exactly do that ! I couldn't have dreamed better to study my TL course which was really confusing. And you made it cristal clear in 19min... Really awesome. I'm subscribing right now :D

  • @phuang3
    @phuang3 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy your video very much. It answered many of the questions in my mind. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @RavikumarSiddharth
    @RavikumarSiddharth 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent . The best explanation I was looking for! great job

  • @racingmars
    @racingmars 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, this is an outstanding video. I love your presentation style and explanations.

  • @intotheblue50
    @intotheblue50 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed it and understood so much more from your teaching, thank you.

  • @josegermanparra6064
    @josegermanparra6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the very clear explanation!

  • @mike-yp1uk
    @mike-yp1uk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow again you are so great and accurate. I have termination resistors on can bus lines and i never knew why but now i do for sure. you are amazing with all you details. i really liked the math that proves the distance of your tapping point. i am such a rookie that this is mind blwing stuff right now. you have this stuff down to a science.

  • @espenbgh2540
    @espenbgh2540 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent as allways. The old teaching; fitting impedans to impedans from end to end or output to input.

  • @nemaikarmakar7288
    @nemaikarmakar7288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. I like the way shown the concept of standing wave created with the reflection of a plastic. Also the TDR is useful.

  • @octavmandru9219
    @octavmandru9219 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    glad i found your channel. Such a good teacher.... Thank you.

  • @AntiqueRadioandTV
    @AntiqueRadioandTV 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am studying for my ticket, and now I know about why SWR works in coax transmission lines.
    Thanks, Alan!.

  • @IanScottJohnston
    @IanScottJohnston 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video Alan, takes me back to using SWR meters back in the CB days.

  • @user-su5sq5ib3i
    @user-su5sq5ib3i 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im going to tech college in the fall so all of these lessons are awsome! Thank you

  • @dchanluffy
    @dchanluffy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredibly educational video!

  • @henkvanwinkoop196
    @henkvanwinkoop196 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and very understandable for everyone! Electronic education should become mandatory to show these videos.

  • @Flapjackbatter
    @Flapjackbatter 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super.
    I always assumed that it was good to have a large impedance load. (Much larger than output impedance going in.) So as not to drag the input down.
    Things change at high frequencies. A wire is not always a wire.
    Ac is a bit more complicated that dc. For sure.
    Great video. Nicely explained.

  • @shantk7378
    @shantk7378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic explanation.

  • @rrangana11
    @rrangana11 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Video.... Very well explained...practically.

  • @petertyrrell6690
    @petertyrrell6690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    An excellent explanation. Thank you.

  • @dancodella7911
    @dancodella7911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice! Finally someone can teach!

  • @researchandbuild1751
    @researchandbuild1751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Best video ever. This is how to teach properly

  • @kedmark
    @kedmark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant, thank you for posting. I love your bench btw