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  • This is a basic tutorial on PIN Diodes, with some examples of how they are used in RF switch applications. I previously published a video that introduced the topic of how diodes can be used as switches:
    • #82: How to use a Diod...
    This video takes this a step further, discussing the unique characteristics of PIN diodes and how these characteristics are used for switching large RF signals. The unique ability to have the resistance of the diode be adjusted by changing the bias current can be used for other applications such as variable attenuators, modulators, phase shifters, etc.
    In the video I state that PIN diodes aren't suitable for fast switches. What I should have said is that PIN diodes aren't suitable in applications that require fast turn-off characteristics when reversed biased - such as rectifier, detector or mixer applications. PIN diodes do make excellent fast (relatively speaking) RF switches.
    Here's a followup video showing some 3rd order IMD measurements vs. bias:
    • #130: PIN Diode 3rd or...
    The Yaesu FT-7800 Repair Log videos that inspired this tutorial:
    Part 1: • #116: Repair Log, Part...
    Part 2: • #117: Repair Log, Part...
    A copy of the notes in this video can be found here:
    www.qsl.net/w/w...

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  • @picwiz2
    @picwiz2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You are simply GREAT: a GREAT teacher in a GREAT lab. TNX!

  • @faisgaffeimbecile1939
    @faisgaffeimbecile1939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Aged 15 or 16, I designed PiN diode-switching into a Plessey SL600-series IC based HF transceiver which worked essentially, and ended up being very similar to a renowned G3TSO design, though I never understood the 'charge-carrier-bucket' you describe so clearly.
    Excellent series of videos and amazed you take the time to build the jigs. I have subscribed.

  • @falconhawker
    @falconhawker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Intersting; Finally understand what a PIN diode is used for !

  • @muniswamy100
    @muniswamy100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is how you understand electronics. This stuff is worth hours of meticulous reading from books. Thank you!

  • @rockradio928
    @rockradio928 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have helped fill so many gaps in my knowledge from things I never learn't properly at college. The five year one day a week City and guilds course my company sent me on was still teaching valve theory alongside transistors in the late 70's.
    As a home project, I once built the 1/4 wave line PIN switch into a 2 meter transceiver, to switch between transmit and receive without an aerial change-over relay, but never understood how it worked until now. From memory mine consisted of at least two 1/4 wave lines and at least four PIN diodes, but memory is a bit hazy now.
    Thank you for these wonderfully explained videos. For me the electronics hobby had died about 15 years ago when computers started to do everything far better than things I could build and hence little point building things any more, but your videos have reignited my interest. Thanks again.
    Howard UK

  • @doctordhd
    @doctordhd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched this again and learned even more. Thank you.

  • @gerrysweeney
    @gerrysweeney 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hi Alan, another great education piece, I always learn something new when I watch your tutorials - thank you.

  • @oh_wall
    @oh_wall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a helpful video, thank you for explaining the quarter wavelength property. Little tidbits of knowledge like that help a lot in understanding the full circuit

  • @Lyndon_K
    @Lyndon_K ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great explanation of the PIN diode. Thank you so much!

  • @jimbrown1559
    @jimbrown1559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a former teacher, I recognize your excellence! Thanks.

  • @tronics666
    @tronics666 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for the excellent lecture. You have a talent for explaining circuity.

  • @haroldtorres4228
    @haroldtorres4228 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow. I really enjoy and learn from your teaçhing. We're house electronics teacher before. I haven't seen a teacher demonstrate theory and show the test like you do.I once had a excellent teacher back in high school who thought me well but you are awesome. Keep up the excellent job. You have a teaching gift. I am getting baçk into electronics. Your teaçhing really helps. God bless you buddy.

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you - I am glad you enjoy my videos!

  • @kao354
    @kao354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! Believe me, as I have > decade of teaching experience, you are just great!

  • @girishk7003
    @girishk7003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simple and practical explanation, hard to find in literature. Thanks a lot Alan !

  • @thomasschmidt5546
    @thomasschmidt5546 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for your excellent done videos. This is the kind of learning i love, by practise step by step testing seein the result and readjust to see whats result after chaning. Great done!!! all the best

  • @YellowsourceOrg
    @YellowsourceOrg 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks you so much for all this very high quality content, you are the one with a clear signal and low noise. Thanks again.

  • @DavePKW
    @DavePKW 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really enjoy your presentations on RF applications. Fantastic explanation. I love watching your practical experiments. Thank you.

  • @Rodderick45
    @Rodderick45 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video and this time RF. Started out my career in consumer electronics with the old vacuum tube superheterodyne radio receiver with the old air tuning capacitor and the local oscillator operating with an IF frequency of 455KHz. Old monochrome black and white receivers which every home had supported by four legs etc.. While serving in the United States Air Force back in the late 70’s and 80’ s maintaining and servicing Radar transmitters and receivers enhanced my experience with RF however I had never heard of pin diodes. Excellent job in explaining the theory and practical applications as well as visual aid of an actual circuit of how pin diodes are used in in the isolation of a transmitter and receiver circuit.

  • @gustavowkaiser
    @gustavowkaiser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best tutorial on pin diodes ever!
    Thanks a lot! 🙂🙋‍♂️🇧🇷

  • @tunicana
    @tunicana 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interesting tutorials, now i love more and more your vids, especially RF stuffs.
    Thx Alan

  • @OIE82
    @OIE82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had never heard of a pin diode but you answered all the questions I had about it. Well done video.

  • @kevinbyrne4538
    @kevinbyrne4538 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The oscilloscope displays of the phenomena being discussed are very helpful. Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to prepare and post these videos.

  • @rfmonkey4942
    @rfmonkey4942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for contributing to everyone out there Alan , Regards from VK3

  • @rolandbernold8004
    @rolandbernold8004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was an amazing tutorial about PIN Diodes - I love the application of high power high frequency switching applications.

  • @anandawijesinghe6298
    @anandawijesinghe6298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Great crystal clear instruction ! Thanks!

  • @TonyG8WBI
    @TonyG8WBI 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used TX/RX PIN diode RF switches in the past, but never really understood how they worked. Thanks for a great video.

  • @hectorpascal
    @hectorpascal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent tutorial! I have advised my Uni students to view it.

  • @bhavani1089shankar
    @bhavani1089shankar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi W2AEW , I request you to make a video on RF Tuners which are used to characterize High Frequency & High Power RF Transistors(GaN) , what I meant is load pull analysis(you have already done amazing tutorials on smith charts) , by the way you are one of the best instructors I have ever met in my life
    and actually what I observed in you is that the thought what comes in your mind , and what you talk or explain and later what you do on the bench are in unison and here in our culture in india we call that as TRIKARANA SUDHHI which is a rare quality , kudos W2AEW , it is always fun to watch your videos which edify
    Regards Bhavani Sankar Appalla

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can add "load pull" to my very long list of future topics. Thank you for your very nice comments!

  • @ehsanollahshourezari2708
    @ehsanollahshourezari2708 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good practical tutorial. thank you

  • @rjordans
    @rjordans 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just the explanation I was looking for. To bad you didn't include the attenuator construction itself yet but I guess that's something I should be able to figure out myself!

  • @robertgormley684
    @robertgormley684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for helping me prepare for my job interview!

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you get the job!

  • @smgvbest
    @smgvbest 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking for a good explanation of how pin diodes are used as switches and this helped allot. thank you

  • @madhirasriharsha
    @madhirasriharsha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought much about the TR switch as explained in the video.. really nice video, thanks for sharing all these insights.

  • @gsansoucie
    @gsansoucie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I’ve come to love my Elecraft rigs and the quiet nature of my HR 50 ATU with the QSK board, but I never really understood how PIN diodes worked and certainly not how they worked in place of relays (such as the noisy ones in my IC 7300). I understand the mechanical nature of the the relays, but never understood the complexity of the PIN diodes. Now I know, thanks for yet another awesome video. De W1ND.

  • @miken9867
    @miken9867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and great explanation. Never ever used PIN diode.

  • @n4mjf2a
    @n4mjf2a 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Enjoyed the video very much. My goal was to learn how PIN Diodes work and you made it quick and simple. Good show.

  • @decarr66
    @decarr66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent primer on using PIN diodes in RF switching applications!

  • @tze-ven
    @tze-ven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are truly awesome educator! Thanks for this great video! I wish you can do a video on antenna switching for direction finding; a feature available in BLE 5.1

  • @robertcalkjr.8325
    @robertcalkjr.8325 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Alan. That's interesting. All the times I bought all kinds of diodes, I don't remember ever seeing any PIN Diodes.

  • @basinstreetdesign5206
    @basinstreetdesign5206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this. I now know that I understood little about how PIN diodes behave.

  • @friedmule5403
    @friedmule5403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You know sometimes you just find the right video, made by the right person, and everything just goes up to an other level, that's what I have experienced several times on your channel, including this video! :-)

  • @k8axw142
    @k8axw142 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan: Thank you very much for this video on the PIN diode. Many questions answered!! I never encountered PIN diodes until I built a 40M transceiver which uses them. When I went to trouble shoot the circuit I saw just how far behind I've become in the electronic field! Again, thanks for the tutorial. As usual, one of excellent quality!!
    Al - K8AXW

  • @michaelhawthorne8696
    @michaelhawthorne8696 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Alan. I wasn't aware of these diodes and didn't know about the 1/4 wavelength property of inverse impedance, ingenious way to chose between Tx and Rx using minimal components.

  • @ankur1888
    @ankur1888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks from India!
    Your videos are great!

  • @RadioWhisperer
    @RadioWhisperer ปีที่แล้ว

    A fantastic video, as always. I feel like i really understand this now! Heading to eBay to grab some cheap PIN diodes and build some circuits to tinker with at 54mhz

  • @hassantj5775
    @hassantj5775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation sir. I have become your fan.

  • @joebell3567
    @joebell3567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would have been interesting to apply a square wave to the control line of the pin diode to display pulsed transmission of a sinewave. Great range of video's well done. Joe G4PMY

  • @adnanishtay9871
    @adnanishtay9871 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    strong in theory, practice and how to present thing simply... really great

  • @mr1enrollment
    @mr1enrollment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PIN diodes are interesting devices. Another is an avalanche transistor. I once used the combination of both to create an extremely large and fast current spike. If I recall correctly it created a 60amp spike of a sub nano second length. It would be interesting to imagine a long wire antenna which could be 'tuned' by length with the PIN diodes also.

  • @Beretta96Dan
    @Beretta96Dan 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good tutorial on the PIN diodes! I am spending quite a bit more time on TH-cam and less on the Boob Tube. Thanks!

  • @mmoharana294
    @mmoharana294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    w2aew you are great in explaining the PIN diode with practical demo. I was searching for this type of video to get a full knowledge on PIN diodes. You could have informed some of the technical names of PIN diodes readily available in the market. Many thanks.

  • @mikelaspina7670
    @mikelaspina7670 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, clear, concise and paced perfectly.

  • @nickwood4367
    @nickwood4367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really helpful Alan. Thank you so much.

  • @physics_thug
    @physics_thug 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir, this video helped with my PhD research.

  • @shanehogarth6373
    @shanehogarth6373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation, thanks

  • @fjs1111
    @fjs1111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a fantastic video.. These are amazing little devices.

  • @binfoon
    @binfoon 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are very well presented and are informative. You make an excellent teacher.Great job, Thanks for your presentations.

  • @squee222
    @squee222 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video. Thank you. I need to do a presentation on these diodes for school. This really helped.

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to help! Let me know how your presentation goes.

  • @BitZorg
    @BitZorg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say at first when I saw RF videos I was pretty disappointed (not really sure why), but lately I've been really enjoying them. Thanks!

  • @xDR1TeK
    @xDR1TeK 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We don't deserve you, at least I don't for sure. This is beautiful work. How I graduated and never saw a pin diode before, I'm not sure.

  • @JanCiger
    @JanCiger 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! I knew about diode switching, but I didn't understand how it could work for large voltages, such as in transmitters or various antenna switchers, not being aware of the "storage bucket/flywheel" characteristics of the PIN diodes. Cool, I have learned something new!
    BTW, you have a really excellent drawing style - my computer drawn schematics and diagrams often don't look as good as your hand drawn ones!

  • @bobmustari6087
    @bobmustari6087 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video. I've always been fuzzy about PIN diodes.

  • @va3ux
    @va3ux 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you ! That was excellent. I think I now have at least some understanding of what I am looking at in the front end of my TS-930 schematic. ie. Switching of the bandpass filters. This video 'solved' it for me.

  • @ronvaliant9337
    @ronvaliant9337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome teacher you are.

  • @SivaranjanGoswami
    @SivaranjanGoswami 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice... Well explained with both theory and practical ..Thank you for such a great lesson..

  • @kamaloddinsayyad3305
    @kamaloddinsayyad3305 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice and more informative video, Thanks sir ! 😊😊😊

  • @OhadHarel11
    @OhadHarel11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best explanation ever

  • @Rob-du9ui
    @Rob-du9ui 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks for the information. Very clear and concise.

  • @Tryin2FlyII
    @Tryin2FlyII 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! It is so much easier when I can "see" what is happening to go along with the GREAT explanation. I was with you almost the whole way until I seen that it was still conducting even when it was reversed biased? I'll have to watch it a few more times I think. Thanks again for posting this I felt like a kid on Christmas morning lol I have a circuit in my head that I have been studying & trying to understand (for a very Long time) while follow along w/your video- Basically it uses a 555 timer to switch between 2 antenna's (using pin diodes) for Radio Direction Finding you might even be aware of it its called -Simple TDOA circuit w/a 555 IC? I really want to build this circuit but never have I just didn't have enough understanding on how it worked until now Great Job!

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - the PIN diode will conduct (for a short period of time) when reversed biased - this is due to the charge stored in the junction. Once the charge is all depleted or removed, then the device stops conducting. It is this stored reservoir of charge that makes the PIN diodes special, and geared towards switching RF signals.

    • @Tryin2FlyII
      @Tryin2FlyII 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** I was expecting that they would stop conducting sooner (I thought the P-I junction held less of a charge or would dissipate it faster not sure why I thought that lol) until I watched your video & they didn't perform in the way I previously had thought Thanks

  • @byronwatkins2565
    @byronwatkins2565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The intrinsic region is neutral; it stores no charge. p and n carriers diffuse into the intrinsic region and recombine. The diffusing p carriers leave behind a negative charge layer in the p material and the diffusing n carriers leave behind a positive charge layer in the n material. These charges generate an electric field across the junction that balances the increase in entropy from diffusion. The larger plate separation REDUCES the capacitance and accumulated plate charge (Q=CV) relative to a pn junction. Additionally, the increased junction volume greatly increases the probability that a photon will ionize a p-n charge pair before passing through the volume.

  • @FamilienSoelberg
    @FamilienSoelberg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another fantastic video. Awesome explanation!

  • @PapasDino
    @PapasDino 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super job Alan! 73 - Dino KL0S

  • @egbertgroot2737
    @egbertgroot2737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful ...now i know why my diode bridge in secondary ruines the MOSFETS in the switching power supply.....

  • @seekinggod3174
    @seekinggod3174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial Alan as always!

  • @mofaelectronics1295
    @mofaelectronics1295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video thank you👍

  • @aatifshah8476
    @aatifshah8476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    now i completely understood the pin diode

  • @steven123483
    @steven123483 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video thanks Alan great production value!

  • @jonathanbignall1198
    @jonathanbignall1198 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting, I was reading recently about how different I.F filters were switched using diodes in H.F receivers and I was puzzled about how that worked; am I right in supposing they employ a similar principle to what you describe here? Thanks for the informative videos!

  • @MrTweetyhack
    @MrTweetyhack 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir, are a great teacher!

  • @BRUCE24098
    @BRUCE24098 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Very well explained.

  • @lesleypaulvj_TVPM
    @lesleypaulvj_TVPM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good lessons and nice explanation. Able to easily grasp it. Thanks, VU2LVJ

  • @visionofwellboyofficial
    @visionofwellboyofficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video that i learn something new from. Thanks!

  • @levendlicht
    @levendlicht ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started to learn about electronics, and like your video´s. What I don´t get in this video is why doesn´t the diode clip the negative half of the RF signal (when the diode is not DC biased) and pass through the positive half of the signal as it gets above 0.6 Volts. (that´s what I learned from the textbooks anyhow, maybe I should learn a bit more first before asking questions, but I´m curous).

  • @GregoryCharvat
    @GregoryCharvat 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent Demo!

  • @laneboysrc
    @laneboysrc 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this educational video!

  • @vex9060
    @vex9060 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciate this video and your explanations on this topic. 73s

  • @BalticLab
    @BalticLab 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video, as always!

  • @txsharpshooter85
    @txsharpshooter85 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial! Keep up the good work!

  • @syleepaul
    @syleepaul 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for your detail explanation!!1

  • @helmutheller1538
    @helmutheller1538 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, excellent! You are a very good speaker, too :-)

  • @hoplit480
    @hoplit480 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muchas Gracias, Is a excellent video.

  • @hamradio323
    @hamradio323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i realy loved your vid of pin diodes thums up! Tnx.

  • @jcs8868
    @jcs8868 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sir. How to use PIN DIODES as a power limiter to avoid damage from high level signals coming from the antenna? For example, when receive +6dBm from antenna, the diode limit this power to +3dBm to protect the LNA. How to calculate and choose the right diode for the desired limit value? Thanks!

  • @uiticus
    @uiticus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so interesting. At that particular RF frequency the transmission line of the scope is 1/4 wavelength. And at that wavelength the opposite ends of the transmission line have opposite impedance! Is this only true with 1/4 wavelength or also true with multiples of 1/4 wavelength or even at any other wavelength?

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The impedance inversion (around the system impedance) occurs at frequencies where the length is an odd multiple of quarter wavelengths long (1/4, 3/4, etc.). At the even quarter wavelength (1/2, 1, etc.), the impedance seen at the input of the line equals the impedance seen at the far end.

    • @uiticus
      @uiticus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@w2aew That is great! Thank you!

  • @dandearman2871
    @dandearman2871 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job.

  • @RedMorningDawn
    @RedMorningDawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is amazing thanks so much!

  • @syscomweb1
    @syscomweb1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video , thanks for share.

  • @cn8by
    @cn8by 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    good work another video beneficial hold on

  • @ksrele
    @ksrele 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video.
    I love your videos about RF, they are very understandable for begginers.
    My I ask you to explain one situation for me?
    Why do FM radio recivers pick up signal from nearby (powerfull) FM transmiter on all frequencies not only on frenquency that is registered to?
    For example FM transmiter is emiting on 100MHz but with (basic chipy) reciver I can hear program all around the scale (where is no other stations).
    You can make video of this or just answer me via reply to comment or in PM.
    Thank you.

  • @paritoshjoshi6886
    @paritoshjoshi6886 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely explained.