I concur - there are some very informative videos posted on TH-cam by Quakers of every hue. There are also Quaker friend groups online and across the world. I attend free online Zoom meetings through the UK Quaker college, Woodbrooke. The Woodbrooke site has a link to join their meetings directly, and a schedule that tells you the weeks meetings. People from all around the world join there, and the after meeting discussion is so much richer for that global friendship.
There is no reference to God's word in what he said, indeed there could not be as there is no support on the Bible to what he said. The only thing he said that could be based in Scripture is the need for heart preparation, but that is not an emptying of our minds but an aligning of or minds to God’s will and glory (as in the first half of the prayer Jesus gave as a pattern for His followers to follow when praying). Every prayer or reference to times when people pray recorded in Scripture are specific supplications or requests.
RisingDawn you’re right. I pastor a Quaker church but it is evangelical. I had to get rid of a 'gospel tract' that was all about the Spirit is a person and nothing to do with the blood of Christ and his resurrection to provide salvation to those who by faith in Christ receive by grace the gift of God, eternal life.
Oh wow, so the church you pastor preaches the biblical Gospel of Christ and yet is a "Quaker" church? I'm not particularly knowledgeable about modern Quaker churches but I just assumed it was a cult from what I've heard. I praise God for your faithfulness to the truth of the word!
I actually shared a short video recently about the reformed doctrine of Sola Scriptura, which probably wouldn't go down very well with most Quakers! I'd be interested as to what you'd make of it.
Although the speaker doesn't directly reference this in the video, the Biblical origins of this style of contemplative prayer (which is akin to the practice of Centering Prayer in Catholicism) is Matthew 6:6 "But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you"
The written Word of God must be the focal point of our worship, and the governing criteria of our worship, otherwise it will become a non-authoritative hodgepodge of human sentiments and feelings. Both Jesus and the apostles constantly quoted the Scriptures, saying, "It is written." All kinds of religious groups claim this, and claim that, and see this, and see that, etc. There is no credibility or viability in such an approach as this. Read the Bible, search the Bible, learn the Bible, obey the Bible, and let the written Word of God be a lamp unto your feet and a light unto you path (See Psalm 119:105). Note: All but two of the verses in the very long Psalm of Psalm 119 mentions the Word of God.
One must be born again of the Spirit of God if they are to enter the kingdom of heaven (John 3:3). Only through Jesus Christ may someone come to God (John 14:6).
@@adrianglamorgan9486 Genuine religion in relationship with God must be experiential, and this helps us with assurance, but we must always interpret experiences through the word of God and not the other way round. Quakerism makes this mistake. And so our faith must not be based on experience but the word of the Lord.
@@risingdawn5788 the issue of reading the word of God requires an active intellect and knowledge of ancient languages, or trust in those who do have those skills, and so that experience of that word is always mediated by that. Then there is a personal and cultural response. I can trust in the word of the Lord but I must also factor in contexts, that which is temporal, and that which is eternal. I am nourished by both versions of creation, in chapters one and two, but one has to make a call about what the different stories are saying to each other, and to one as a reader.
@@risingdawn5788 God is NOT a book. God is NOT limited to a book. God CAN and DO speak through other means and channels, through nature, through people that don't know you personally. God is NOT limited by your preference (that includes your preference being the bible only).
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I concur - there are some very informative videos posted on TH-cam by Quakers of every hue.
There are also Quaker friend groups online and across the world.
I attend free online Zoom meetings through the UK Quaker college, Woodbrooke. The Woodbrooke site has a link to join their meetings directly, and a schedule that tells you the weeks meetings. People from all around the world join there, and the after meeting discussion is so much richer for that global friendship.
David is a beautiful witness - yes.
This is very beautiful thank you. Our relationship and the stillness with God is everything I have though "religion" should be
Beautiful-thanks David, i found it very relatable and you very humble :) love from England
This was so good! 😍
Thank you
There is no reference to God's word in what he said, indeed there could not be as there is no support on the Bible to what he said. The only thing he said that could be based in Scripture is the need for heart preparation, but that is not an emptying of our minds but an aligning of or minds to God’s will and glory (as in the first half of the prayer Jesus gave as a pattern for His followers to follow when praying). Every prayer or reference to times when people pray recorded in Scripture are specific supplications or requests.
Welcome to Quakerism. It's not Christianity.
RisingDawn you’re right. I pastor a Quaker church but it is evangelical. I had to get rid of a 'gospel tract' that was all about the Spirit is a person and nothing to do with the blood of Christ and his resurrection to provide salvation to those who by faith in Christ receive by grace the gift of God, eternal life.
Oh wow, so the church you pastor preaches the biblical Gospel of Christ and yet is a "Quaker" church? I'm not particularly knowledgeable about modern Quaker churches but I just assumed it was a cult from what I've heard.
I praise God for your faithfulness to the truth of the word!
I actually shared a short video recently about the reformed doctrine of Sola Scriptura, which probably wouldn't go down very well with most Quakers! I'd be interested as to what you'd make of it.
Although the speaker doesn't directly reference this in the video, the Biblical origins of this style of contemplative prayer (which is akin to the practice of Centering Prayer in Catholicism) is Matthew 6:6 "But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you"
The written Word of God must be the focal point of our worship, and the governing criteria of our worship, otherwise it will become a non-authoritative hodgepodge of human sentiments and feelings. Both Jesus and the apostles constantly quoted the Scriptures, saying, "It is written." All kinds of religious groups claim this, and claim that, and see this, and see that, etc. There is no credibility or viability in such an approach as this. Read the Bible, search the Bible, learn the Bible, obey the Bible, and let the written Word of God be a lamp unto your feet and a light unto you path (See Psalm 119:105). Note: All but two of the verses in the very long Psalm of Psalm 119 mentions the Word of God.
One must be born again of the Spirit of God if they are to enter the kingdom of heaven (John 3:3). Only through Jesus Christ may someone come to God (John 14:6).
I know what the Bible says. But what can you say, about your specific experiences of God, as has been revealed to you in your life?
@@adrianglamorgan9486 Genuine religion in relationship with God must be experiential, and this helps us with assurance, but we must always interpret experiences through the word of God and not the other way round. Quakerism makes this mistake.
And so our faith must not be based on experience but the word of the Lord.
@@risingdawn5788 the issue of reading the word of God requires an active intellect and knowledge of ancient languages, or trust in those who do have those skills, and so that experience of that word is always mediated by that. Then there is a personal and cultural response. I can trust in the word of the Lord but I must also factor in contexts, that which is temporal, and that which is eternal. I am nourished by both versions of creation, in chapters one and two, but one has to make a call about what the different stories are saying to each other, and to one as a reader.
@@risingdawn5788 God is NOT a book. God is NOT limited to a book. God CAN and DO speak through other means and channels, through nature, through people that don't know you personally. God is NOT limited by your preference (that includes your preference being the bible only).
@Rising Dawn Yes