Those push pulls aren't just for splitting the coils, Fluences have a voicing switch that changes the sound of the pickup. I'm thinking the issues you're having with the neck pick up is related to swapping out the pots and electronics, especially if neither you nor your luthier are aware of the Fishman voicings.
How do people just not know what they’re buying? And luthiers too, for that matter? I mean, fishman fluence is kind of new-ish, but as a luthier, I wouldn’t touch a guitar that has unknown electronics in it, before researching what’s up… Taking out the fishman pots destroys the actual functionality…
Non the less the main points of the issues are personal problems... I used to play very low string hight all my life and never scractched the pickups except when I was a really nOOb player at the start... And the Fishman Fluids... Our dude just killed them straight as a fellow guitarist said befor me.
ive have the same guitar but 7 strings and its awesome for me, didnt run into any problems, and i thin the pickups are placed fine. only thing is i use really heavy strings so i did have to file the nut a bit.
Interesting that you also had a problem with the neck pickup I spent months going back and forth with my local shop to fix the wiring, turns out the pickup itself was the problem. After swapping with a new one its working great and sounds so much better than the bridge pickup which i hardly use for my playing. As for this guitar, one of the annoyances i found was with the locking tuners, I like to use a really heavy gauge string set (9-80) and the 80 gauge F# string wont fit through the hole in the tuner without winding back a layer of that string.
i personally disagree with pretty much everything here. I mainly play very heavy stuff but I pick right above the bridge pickup so I don't scratch it. My bridge pickup hasn't ever stopped working. I haven't had any problems with the frets or the nut too.
@@wolfstarsoundscapes yeah. It's one of the best looking affordable 8 strings out there. I'm saving up for a kiesel rn so maybe I could compare the kx to one
@@wolfstarsoundscapes You keep selector on bridge 24/7 and thats the problem, its metal "remembers the form" and connection gets loose, if you store the guitar in middle pickup selector position that'll fix this problem.
Wow an actual guitar review...Not many on 8 string guitars, and even less with actually good content. Most focus on overly subjective recording demos, or useless rambling. Your review actually helped me fine tune some things to look for when selecting a guitar of this make. Good job!
Picked one of these up for $600, and I'm very pleased with the quality for the price point. I wouldn't pay the full $1100 retail price for it though. The pickups themselves are about $280 new, so $600 was definitely a fair price for it. A thing I really appreciate is that the KX508 has a 26.5"-28" scale, while the KX507 has a 25.5"-27" scale. One extra inch really makes a difference for 8-strings. The part about the fretboard extending beyond the nut is something pretty much all "budget" 7- and 8-string multiscale guitars have. Ibanez, Schecter and Jackson also do this. It's only cosmetic and doesn't interfere with playing, it only makes the guitars a bit cheaper to mass produce. I fully agree that multiscale/fanned frets don't make much difference from regular straight frets tho. Maybe if you play a lot of leads it's a good thing, but to me it doesn't matter if it has fanned frets or not. Meshuggah seems okay with playing leads in 30" 8-strings 😅
I've had this guitar for more than 2 years now, and I've been experiencing some of the things you mention. For example the frets are a bit sharp on my model either, and the nut is a complete joke, I'll have it replaced soon. I carved it a bit and it's usable without any noise or something, but still a tech should replace it. The pots are mediocre at best, I'm having those replaced either, because they wobble around and turned very easily. Other than that the guitar is pure heaven. Ergonomics and overall build quality is very good, those 3 things you need to sort out and you've got a high end guitar.
Thanks for that video I was thinking about that guitar, becuse it's cheap 8 string with all I wanted, multiscale, split coil and also additional split to go from active sound to passive pickup sound. I wanted to buy Solar 1.8 with evertune bridge, but someone said that mutliscale feels a lot better and would chose multiscale instead of evertune bridge. But there are many photos of internet with solars having fretbord cracking, it could be many because it have real issues with that, or just that it's a big company so people are speaking loudly about it that it seems like it's big problem compared to other companies because nobody speaks about other but in truly it could happen with any guitar so solars are not craking a lot more often than others those are just rumors that went to people thinking it's problem with solar guitars. But yeah I'm not sure about that. Schecter Silver Mountain, I think the pickups are little bit mudy, and for that high price I would prefer to get 9 string, since this is what I really want, but it's too hard to find good 9 string with split coil option and multiscale length, since 9 string should have at least 28 scale length, which could be a problem for thinner strings.
Sounds like some good reasoning. I am concerned about Solar's fretboard cracking as well. The Silver Mountain may be my next guitar though! I will just get a 6-string version though since I don't have a proper normal 6-string at the moment. I like Schecter guitars and if the pickups aren't that great, I may get them swapped in the future. As for 9-strings...I don't think I'll need one. Not enough bands I listen to/am inspired by use them. Good luck on your guitar search!
@@wolfstarsoundscapes I don't see anything interesting in 6 strings ; p, If I would not be interested in Death Core, Death metal music and more of shreding and melodic sounds I would chose 7 string with moving bridge.
Not "drill through", but my luthier used a metal file to shave the nut slots to be wider. You could also deepen the slots the same way, but be VERY careful, because if you go too deep, you can't undo that unless you get a new nut. Here's some people smarter than me, doing what my luthier did: th-cam.com/video/racmaWTYvNg/w-d-xo.html Also, maybe try doing a normal setup first or having a luthier take a look before doing anything drastic :)
Yeah in the end you get what you pay for. That’s the thing with cheap to mid-tear guitars, the defect probability rises. I know it sucks and people don’t like to be that customer- but return and exchange would have been probably the best decision, they possibly would have made sure they sent you a working guitar, yeah you will wait a little longer but it’s better than never playing it because it sucks IMO.
I have had that guitar for 2 years and i have played a better guitar in my life yet. After a little setup mine is killer and serves me well. I only wish it would have a more generous arm cut but thats personal preference
Those push pulls aren't just for splitting the coils, Fluences have a voicing switch that changes the sound of the pickup. I'm thinking the issues you're having with the neck pick up is related to swapping out the pots and electronics, especially if neither you nor your luthier are aware of the Fishman voicings.
You're god damn right! This review is a complete shame.
How do people just not know what they’re buying? And luthiers too, for that matter? I mean, fishman fluence is kind of new-ish, but as a luthier, I wouldn’t touch a guitar that has unknown electronics in it, before researching what’s up… Taking out the fishman pots destroys the actual functionality…
Non the less the main points of the issues are personal problems... I used to play very low string hight all my life and never scractched the pickups except when I was a really nOOb player at the start... And the Fishman Fluids... Our dude just killed them straight as a fellow guitarist said befor me.
ive have the same guitar but 7 strings and its awesome for me, didnt run into any problems, and i thin the pickups are placed fine. only thing is i use really heavy strings so i did have to file the nut a bit.
TH-cam needs more reviews like this one. Thanks!
We need those kind of reviews where the user and his luthiers know how the parts work...
Interesting that you also had a problem with the neck pickup
I spent months going back and forth with my local shop to fix the wiring, turns out the pickup itself was the problem.
After swapping with a new one its working great and sounds so much better than the bridge pickup which i hardly use for my playing.
As for this guitar, one of the annoyances i found was with the locking tuners, I like to use a really heavy gauge string set (9-80) and the 80 gauge F# string wont fit through the hole in the tuner without winding back a layer of that string.
Аналогичная проблема. Пришлось рассверливать отверстие.
i personally disagree with pretty much everything here. I mainly play very heavy stuff but I pick right above the bridge pickup so I don't scratch it. My bridge pickup hasn't ever stopped working. I haven't had any problems with the frets or the nut too.
Well I definitely wish that was the case for me! Glad you've had a much more positive experience. I really wanted to enjoy this guitar...
@@wolfstarsoundscapes yeah. It's one of the best looking affordable 8 strings out there. I'm saving up for a kiesel rn so maybe I could compare the kx to one
@@KovertCorteX Sounds like a great plan ;) Kiesels are very cool
@@wolfstarsoundscapes You keep selector on bridge 24/7 and thats the problem, its metal "remembers the form" and connection gets loose, if you store the guitar in middle pickup selector position that'll fix this problem.
Thanks for the review, man. I doubt I'd get this now
Wow an actual guitar review...Not many on 8 string guitars, and even less with actually good content. Most focus on overly subjective recording demos, or useless rambling. Your review actually helped me fine tune some things to look for when selecting a guitar of this make. Good job!
I had a bad fluence modern pickup in a Mayones myself. It took them months and months to get it fixed, completely ruined me on that brand 🤦♂
Picked one of these up for $600, and I'm very pleased with the quality for the price point. I wouldn't pay the full $1100 retail price for it though. The pickups themselves are about $280 new, so $600 was definitely a fair price for it. A thing I really appreciate is that the KX508 has a 26.5"-28" scale, while the KX507 has a 25.5"-27" scale. One extra inch really makes a difference for 8-strings. The part about the fretboard extending beyond the nut is something pretty much all "budget" 7- and 8-string multiscale guitars have. Ibanez, Schecter and Jackson also do this. It's only cosmetic and doesn't interfere with playing, it only makes the guitars a bit cheaper to mass produce. I fully agree that multiscale/fanned frets don't make much difference from regular straight frets tho. Maybe if you play a lot of leads it's a good thing, but to me it doesn't matter if it has fanned frets or not. Meshuggah seems okay with playing leads in 30" 8-strings 😅
Good n honest review. Very helpful 👍🙏🏼
I've had this guitar for more than 2 years now, and I've been experiencing some of the things you mention. For example the frets are a bit sharp on my model either, and the nut is a complete joke, I'll have it replaced soon. I carved it a bit and it's usable without any noise or something, but still a tech should replace it. The pots are mediocre at best, I'm having those replaced either, because they wobble around and turned very easily. Other than that the guitar is pure heaven. Ergonomics and overall build quality is very good, those 3 things you need to sort out and you've got a high end guitar.
Thanks for that video I was thinking about that guitar, becuse it's cheap 8 string with all I wanted, multiscale, split coil and also additional split to go from active sound to passive pickup sound.
I wanted to buy Solar 1.8 with evertune bridge, but someone said that mutliscale feels a lot better and would chose multiscale instead of evertune bridge. But there are many photos of internet with solars having fretbord cracking, it could be many because it have real issues with that, or just that it's a big company so people are speaking loudly about it that it seems like it's big problem compared to other companies because nobody speaks about other but in truly it could happen with any guitar so solars are not craking a lot more often than others those are just rumors that went to people thinking it's problem with solar guitars. But yeah I'm not sure about that.
Schecter Silver Mountain, I think the pickups are little bit mudy, and for that high price I would prefer to get 9 string, since this is what I really want, but it's too hard to find good 9 string with split coil option and multiscale length, since 9 string should have at least 28 scale length, which could be a problem for thinner strings.
Sounds like some good reasoning. I am concerned about Solar's fretboard cracking as well. The Silver Mountain may be my next guitar though! I will just get a 6-string version though since I don't have a proper normal 6-string at the moment. I like Schecter guitars and if the pickups aren't that great, I may get them swapped in the future. As for 9-strings...I don't think I'll need one. Not enough bands I listen to/am inspired by use them. Good luck on your guitar search!
@@wolfstarsoundscapes I don't see anything interesting in 6 strings ; p, If I would not be interested in Death Core, Death metal music and more of shreding and melodic sounds I would chose 7 string with moving bridge.
Это личный опыт, гитара отличная, я с такими проблемами не столкнулся
did you have to drill through the nut? I have 7 strings, and it seems to me the strings are high above the neck
Not "drill through", but my luthier used a metal file to shave the nut slots to be wider. You could also deepen the slots the same way, but be VERY careful, because if you go too deep, you can't undo that unless you get a new nut.
Here's some people smarter than me, doing what my luthier did:
th-cam.com/video/racmaWTYvNg/w-d-xo.html
Also, maybe try doing a normal setup first or having a luthier take a look before doing anything drastic :)
@@wolfstarsoundscapes Thank you for your help, I'm going to give it to the luthier, I'm just wondering if I have such a problem)
Yeah in the end you get what you pay for. That’s the thing with cheap to mid-tear guitars, the defect probability rises. I know it sucks and people don’t like to be that customer- but return and exchange would have been probably the best decision, they possibly would have made sure they sent you a working guitar, yeah you will wait a little longer but it’s better than never playing it because it sucks IMO.
I hope you re-reviewed this because you are not completely correct about the Fishman's voicings. It's not JUST split coil...
I have had that guitar for 2 years and i have played a better guitar in my life yet. After a little setup mine is killer and serves me well. I only wish it would have a more generous arm cut but thats personal preference
Ouch... 😬
Neck bridge sucks, needs to replace
Use a heavier pick lol