He was recently passing through my area. I doubt he would've stopped by for a boring looking mushroom. I don't think I'd get away with sending anyone possibly psilocybin in the mail for "ID" purposes. If he has a special lab to "receive" specimens, I believe these mushrooms go for $7,000 per gram for research. If he has got a permit + grant for me, he can contact me. :) I definitely recommend layering arborist wood chips all over the ground to discover crossbreeding happening.
You need to be Checking for more than a wavy cap. The presence of a separable gelatinous pellicle and a partially cortinate veil are really useful features when identifying Psilocybes. The chance of these fungi “cross breading” is rare seeing as their reproductive organs are the fungal fruit body. And the reproductive cells are the spores. If they have crossed that would make the fruiting body the offspring. the fruit is always the reproductive organ.
But, if the cells were to cross, and pollinate, and then produce the hybridized mycelium nearby, it would produce a fruiting body which may have characteristics of both parents species? Not suggesting that there was a crossing of species necessarily, because that has never been documented in psychedelic mushrooms. But we can't put anything off the table, as fungi show us all the time
@@pitbullsandhorses not even expert level growers have info on cross species, maybe dudes in college studying mushrooms know but it sure as hell aint public info. no good info on crosses. and from what i saw she did identify more than a wavy cap, she knew to identify it further based off the cap maturity alone
I get those growing in my cyanescens patches sometimes. This year I seen both mushroom growing out of the exact same spot. The stems were fused but very different mushrooms. Not I got a couple strange mushrooms that just popped up. Hoping it doesn’t freeze for a couple days so they can grow a bit. Interesting
Really fascinating! Over here in Scotland the Fungi Kingdom seems to have been late these past 2years, less rain perhaps. Only now, are the liberty caps fruiting alot, 23 October,, never found the wavy caps, but have heard they gtow in UK. Happy hunting 🍄😻🏴
I've always been curious about this.. it takes two spores to 'mate' and begin the mycelium growth... but can spores from different species interact this way?? I have yet to read about it anywhere... Anyone out there know the answer?? Thanks for the vids!
Kind of. What you can do is dilute a spore solution and dilute it 1000x and inoculate different plates with one spore each, you can take 2 species like Psilocybe Cyanescens and Psilocybe Azurescens and hyphenate them I think.
definitely waiting for rain here in NW Washington. it's been way too hot and dry or I'd be out there searching now that I've come to be able to comfortably identify the Axiis and Cyans. CANNOT WAIT FOR RAIN!!!!! Curious, what part of Washington are you in? I'm as far NW Washington that you can go.
Capitol Forest. I've been hand watering my cyans areas. It's worse this year than last year and last year they were a full month late greatly shortening the fruiting season.
Have you ever been able to grow in wood chips that contain some cedar? I'm on Vancouver Island and am getting my wood chip delivery today. Also do you go for full shade or partial shade? I have wet mossy areas next to my ornamental cedars.
You are a good mushroom grower . Suggestion . Really break up and spread that mycelium ball . Don’t be afraid to over due it , 100s of billons of spores have already inoculate. So really mix that mycelium ball into the wood chips… !
Everybody ”want some” cyanescens even the other muschrooms. Are there other species that grow there? Here where i live there are only two that contain psylocybe👉 semilanceata and cyanescens that are growing outdoor and many that are growing indoor😉. Greetings from Belgium ✌
:) Man just made my day to see a familiar here and from Belgium. Yes! Enjoy the life we are wavy and round bruising blues and rose above. Peace Troubles with the P.C. and where are my video's going. :( but this brings smiles and a new hope Obe One Kuh-Know Be... :P Thanks John. nice to see you.
@@douglasholden3169 Hahaha Douglas from USA ;) how you are my friend? Nice to see you here! What? problems with the pc. thats no good :( i love ❤ your videos man and hope to see some new soon. I havent seen all of them jet haha thank ”god”, ”u”,”i” . Take care my friend✌ see you soon ( in your videos :). Sorry for my bad english man! Peace.
I belgium there are way more psilocybe species;) fimetaria, liniformans, puberula, serbica and also Panaeolus cinctulus and olivaceus ;) broaden the horizon and become able to pick year round :D
@@davidclaassen6977Heb een tip misschien weet je hem al zoek op Google 👉 waarnemingen nederland psilocybe cyanescens dan krijg je een map met al de vindplaatsen van deze soort. Zeker ook bij je in de buurt👍.
Mushrooms don't really cross in the wild. Your best hope is a graft, but they've remained unchanged for geology lengths of time and never fully mix. You can however blast them with mutanagens or irradiate them and they'll do some pretty weird things but it's not really permaculture at that point so much as mad science.
Send a specimen to Alen Rockefeller he can identify the species through DNA sequencing and test for active compounds at his lab.
I second this
He was recently passing through my area. I doubt he would've stopped by for a boring looking mushroom. I don't think I'd get away with sending anyone possibly psilocybin in the mail for "ID" purposes. If he has a special lab to "receive" specimens, I believe these mushrooms go for $7,000 per gram for research. If he has got a permit + grant for me, he can contact me. :) I definitely recommend layering arborist wood chips all over the ground to discover crossbreeding happening.
@@wagroforestry33 now why do you think they cross breeded? And why would you not think that they are just another species all together. Cute!!!😍✌
I wouldn't trust anyone with that particular surname lol.
@@wagroforestry33 look up the 2023 West Coast Mycoblitz, it’s a free mushroom dna sequencing event sponsored by a mycology organization.
That's quite the place you have, and your descriptive sharing is captivating
Yes they crossed breed with spores inoculate each others mycelium but they have to be both of the same sub species.
Probably a Psathyrella sp. that grew close to the Cyans
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You need to be Checking for more than a wavy cap. The presence of a separable gelatinous pellicle and a partially cortinate veil are really useful features when identifying Psilocybes. The chance of these fungi “cross breading” is rare seeing as their reproductive organs are the fungal fruit body. And the reproductive cells are the spores. If they have crossed that would make the fruiting body the offspring. the fruit is always the reproductive organ.
But, if the cells were to cross, and pollinate, and then produce the hybridized mycelium nearby, it would produce a fruiting body which may have characteristics of both parents species? Not suggesting that there was a crossing of species necessarily, because that has never been documented in psychedelic mushrooms. But we can't put anything off the table, as fungi show us all the time
But can't spores donate half the chromosome content if they happen to land by each other? Sorry I'm new to mycology lol.
@@pitbullsandhorses not even expert level growers have info on cross species, maybe dudes in college studying mushrooms know but it sure as hell aint public info. no good info on crosses. and from what i saw she did identify more than a wavy cap, she knew to identify it further based off the cap maturity alone
Send it to Alan Rockefeller
I get those growing in my cyanescens patches sometimes. This year I seen both mushroom growing out of the exact same spot. The stems were fused but very different mushrooms. Not I got a couple strange mushrooms that just popped up. Hoping it doesn’t freeze for a couple days so they can grow a bit. Interesting
Really fascinating! Over here in Scotland the Fungi Kingdom seems to have been late these past 2years, less rain perhaps.
Only now, are the liberty caps fruiting alot, 23 October,, never found the wavy caps, but have heard they gtow in UK.
Happy hunting 🍄😻🏴
The mystery ones could be a deconica or conocybe species, they can look a lot like psilocybes.
I HAVE EXACT same situation....
Those brown mushrooms look like pelliculosa.
Exact coordinates?
I've always been curious about this.. it takes two spores to 'mate' and begin the mycelium growth... but can spores from different species interact this way?? I have yet to read about it anywhere... Anyone out there know the answer??
Thanks for the vids!
Highly unlikely.
Kind of.
What you can do is dilute a spore solution and dilute it 1000x and inoculate different plates with one spore each, you can take 2 species like Psilocybe Cyanescens and Psilocybe Azurescens and hyphenate them I think.
definitely waiting for rain here in NW Washington. it's been way too hot and dry or I'd be out there searching now that I've come to be able to comfortably identify the Axiis and Cyans. CANNOT WAIT FOR RAIN!!!!! Curious, what part of Washington are you in? I'm as far NW Washington that you can go.
Capitol Forest. I've been hand watering my cyans areas. It's worse this year than last year and last year they were a full month late greatly shortening the fruiting season.
@@wagroforestry33 damn, no kidding? Yeah I'd definitely be watering spots too. That's awesome you have some spots though
Have you ever been able to grow in wood chips that contain some cedar? I'm on Vancouver Island and am getting my wood chip delivery today. Also do you go for full shade or partial shade? I have wet mossy areas next to my ornamental cedars.
@@-whackd I've heard that Aspen chips, straw, and cardboard are what you want but maybe someone with more experience can chime in. Good luck
You are a good mushroom grower . Suggestion . Really break up and spread that mycelium ball . Don’t be afraid to over due it , 100s of billons of spores have already inoculate. So really mix that mycelium ball into the wood chips… !
Are they still growing in your property?
How’s is it’s effects compared to Cubensis ?
It didn't turn water blue so I never tried it.
Everybody ”want some” cyanescens even the other muschrooms. Are there other species that grow there? Here where i live there are only two that contain psylocybe👉 semilanceata and cyanescens that are growing outdoor and many that are growing indoor😉. Greetings from Belgium ✌
:) Man just made my day to see a familiar here and from Belgium. Yes! Enjoy the life we are wavy and round bruising blues and rose above. Peace Troubles with the P.C. and where are my video's going. :( but this brings smiles and a new hope Obe One Kuh-Know Be... :P Thanks John. nice to see you.
@@douglasholden3169 Hahaha Douglas from USA ;) how you are my friend? Nice to see you here! What? problems with the pc. thats no good :( i love ❤ your videos man and hope to see some new soon. I havent seen all of them jet haha thank ”god”, ”u”,”i” . Take care my friend✌ see you soon ( in your videos :). Sorry for my bad english man! Peace.
I belgium there are way more psilocybe species;) fimetaria, liniformans, puberula, serbica and also Panaeolus cinctulus and olivaceus ;) broaden the horizon and become able to pick year round :D
@@davidclaassen6977Heb een tip misschien weet je hem al zoek op Google 👉 waarnemingen nederland psilocybe cyanescens dan krijg je een map met al de vindplaatsen van deze soort. Zeker ook bij je in de buurt👍.
Mushrooms don't really cross in the wild. Your best hope is a graft, but they've remained unchanged for geology lengths of time and never fully mix. You can however blast them with mutanagens or irradiate them and they'll do some pretty weird things but it's not really permaculture at that point so much as mad science.
lookalikes?
Those different ones are Psathyrella corrugis obviously, definitely not interbreeding with Psilocybe cyanescens, they are not even closely related.
They look like they could be baeocystis to me. Another (potent) psilocybin species that grows in PNW
Psallatharia species. You can pick up a book or go to the Kitsap Mycology society for help. They are open minded and just like to identify mushrooms.
totally fungally dominated soils, as can be expected from your environment and practices...blessings
if I plant some spores outside is it possible for a cross to happen? i dont want my shrooms to be venomous or something....
She doesn't know. You should read some 📚. Or ask a real mycologist.
No, that won't happen
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They have a look alike but they not good