I had one as a kid, you really need to make something to prop it up, as if it comes away from the pins while the SNES is switched on, it'll blow it's fuse. Happened to me a couple of times.
@@RetroGameTech I have one which seems to have a dud floppy drive , is this an easy fix and also how do you find out what floppy drive to replace it with. ? Thanks
i happen to have the battery infront of me nimh 80mah 3.6v this one www.ebay.com/itm/1-pcs-80mAh-3-6V-Ni-MH-Button-Cell-Rechargeable-Battery-w-Tab-Green-/351792398716?hash=item51e876017c:g:unIAAOSwENxXlcOL
Thanks for the warning! I immediately opened my device and the battery was terrible... But not much damage on the board yet. I need to sand it and neutralice it (+ new battery and caps). Seems like its not very hard to upgrade it to 32m, or to ntsc. There seems to be some bios updates too. And i believe that the usb floppy emulator will work also, cause it uses only 5v. But it might need the 100x floppy not the 1000x. There has been some issues with those on other systems. It would be nice to see video for the upgrade too.
Good point, thanks. Its the cheap NI-CD battery. I think i will put battery holder and Li-ion to it. I will try to put that floppy emulator too, the E100 version (2 digits).
It was a pirate disk device like this back in the day that got me introduced to a ton of games I still love today. An older friend tried his hand at importing and selling these, and even had one with cross compatibility between the SNES and Megadrive - it literally fit and worked perfectly with both consoles. I remember going into town to buy packs 12 megabit 'high density' floppies and loving how they could hold potentially three separate games each. I also remember exchanging the device and three loaded cases of disks for a bike. What a terrible decision that was in retrospect.
Would've loved to had this as a kid. My local rental store would've gotten suspicious when I rented a game and returned to get a new one every couple hours. LOL
***** ah! Gotcha! I guess that would save a tiny bit of room if you put the carts into the storage shed. otherwise, Floppy Disks deteriorate over time...so I don't see any other benefits of this. It's still cool.
Every time I see your new video on sugestions in youtube Im trying to find 10 minutes of peace and calm atmosphere to properly enjoy the video,they are grate man,keep them coming!
I wonder if they tested it on an original SNES with a region lockout chip. Your clone probably doesn't have one. That could be why it didn't work for them.
I would guess the seller has had it laying around for years but no longer has the console. Better to sell it as faulty than as working and then getting negative feedback and complaints if it had stopped working. I've got a tonne of junk like that and I'd not sell it as working unless I could test it before sending it out.
*puts on grammar Nazi hat* You can use so when introducing a concluding question or statement. So I kicked him in the nuts. So you just noticed that? *takes off hat and easy peel off Nazi forehead sticker*
Something you should have tested is if all types of SNES games worked in the device, remember there is games with special chips inside them like star fox that require the super fx chip and others like mega man x series that require other chips so some of them may not work on the device which could be why it was thought to be faulty. Now another thing if it says you need a game inside the unit to play games yet you can play them without, this could suggest that these other games with specific chips might not load on the device without a game inside that has the specific chip maybe? might be something you want to document and test before saying the entire unit is operational ;)
I wonder if the original owner used an original SNES that had DRM protection but didn't know they needed to have a cartridge installed to get passed it, but because he's using a clone SNES that might not have the original DRM it didn't matter.
I had one of these on an original US SNES. It worked without a cartridge plugged in, only needed to plug one if if you were going to play it or dump the ROM to a floppy.
RetroGameTech ...martin...ive got a couple of snes and a megadrive faulty motherboards if you need something challenging..im down here in london..been hesitating to write here publicly..I dont do social media..my mobile is 07975560182..one snes has black screen the other black bars...one MD blank the other unstable graphics..also a super famicom with blank screen..thanks specs
No chip-enhanced games worked. This thing functions by copying the game code to its own RAM, and passing its RAM into to console (or saving it to a diskette). Enhancement chips can't be replicated like that. Essentially, this thing has the same restrictions as an Everdrive.
Technically you can run DSP-1 games like Mario Kart if you have a game with that chip in the slot, but that's the only chip you can work around like that.
This brings back memories. My brother borrowed one for his SNES, the only game I remember us having on floppy disk was Rock 'N Roll Racing. Loads of fun.
Wow. Brings back some memories. Had my wild card years ago. Had literally hundreds of games. There was this shop in Croydon, South London, that would get the latest games from Japan. Every week I would order new games. Only cost a couple of pounds too. Good times. They were some proper weird Japanese games out there too.
Been trying to get a double Pro fighter a while now,Was kind of hoping this was broken as I know these things have a massive fail rate and would like to know how to fix some of the common problems!
My old PSU blew up when I took it down from the loft too. Somebody said it may have had condensation coming from the cold loft to the warm room, and should have left it a while before trying to turn it on
googleboughtmee I don't know how old your sys tree m was but if it's about 15-10 years old there was a very widespread case of bad capacitors used in electronics. Power supplies and regulator circuits use caps a lot. It was s whole big thing about industrial espionage and someone stole the formula for an electrolytic capacitor, but the formula wasn't complete or was deliberately booby trapped so the chemistry was a bit off. So long story not so short, if you are willing to solder it look for bulging or blown caps.
+michael brown what you didn't rent games in 1995? I sure did. Blockbuster was in its heyday and there was a mom n pop rental store on every block. where did u grow up?
I'm wondering if you can replace the floppy drive with a USB floppy emulator so that you can use a USB drive to load and save games. If the Super Wild Card uses a standard PC floppy drive it should work, in theory.
I have been working on a few mods on the wildcard 1 used a floppy emulator drive loading straight from a usb 2nd is a parallel port ROM dumper. Also internet connection via controller port.
eein fredrickson Incorrect. SNES games had a CIC lockout chip. They were more for locking out bootlegs and unlicensed games and less about region locking.
Emmett Turner I don't know much about the lockout but I did experience that many early games worked fine on the system I used (called "UFO" or something) but then other games that were a bit newer like Mario All Stars would actually display a message about piracy and knew it was not geniune. My guess is that there were multiple generations of lockout chip software and noy just one type like the older NES's 10NES chip
ssdwellah That message was not triggered by the lockout chip. Without defeating the lockout chip it actually wouldn't get that far. The lockout chip is "defeated" by inserting a legitimate game into the top. The CIC key in the game pack will unlock the CIC lockout chip in the console and allow it to boot. That's how Game Genie, Pro Action Replay, Super Noah's 3D Ark, Super Wildcard, and Professor SF/Game Doctor, Super UFO, etc worked on a real SNES: they all used the CIC key inside an original game pak inserted into the top or back. The message you were seeing was related to Hi-ROM, Lo-ROM, and SRAM checks. For example, a game like Donkey Kong a Country might check that the SRAM exists and is at the right capacity. It might also test to see if read-only ROM addresses allow writes. If anything is different from what the game expects, it throws up that screen. A tool called UCON was excellent for cracking those checks and patching the ROMs so that they worked anyway.
That's a amazing device, I didn't know they existed. Too bad there wasn't a version for the USA SNES. BTW when I searched for info Super Wild Card on Google, they showed a picture of a later model hooked up to a parallel port Zip Drive.
Looks like you can input from the PC through the LPT port on the back. I wonder if you can access a harddrive in the PC instead of having all those floppies.
It seems to take perfectly standard 3.5" PC floppy drives. You could also get a floppy emulator drive and go totally flash storage, so you don't have to mess with floppies and have a bunch of images on one USB stick.
Would not be worth it with this model as you would have to use CF card to floppy IDE, and this unit can't handle games bigger then 16Mbit in size anyways, or any of Super FX games. You are better off with a homebrewed Wii running the games via emulation. Also to note you have to apply special patches to the games to make them work, and the menu system can't handle that many files. Also another option if you want true hardware is something like an SD2SNES or Super EverdDrive that directly accepts full size SD cards.
Commodorefan64 I was with you up until Wii. There's no need to hassle with setting up that, a 10 year old laptop is more than capable of emulating snes games.
RevengeofGothzilla seriously after getting the last Wii update, it was about a 30 mins process to do the letter bomb hack, and to download the homebrew channel then install the emulators, about maybe another 5-10 mins to transfer all the various game roms to my SD card, plus I don't have to pull out a laptop, AC adapter, usb controller and VGA/HDMI cables everytime I want to play a game on my big flat screen TV I can just sit down in my big oversized lazy boy pick up my Wii Mote, and Wii controller Pro, and I'm ready to game fire up a game in no time. If I want to game on the go I just grab my Android phone, and MOGA Hero Power Bluetooth controller, and I'm good to go.
I fell quite lucky I have a few of these as a collector, but at the same time I don't let people take the piss in regards cost. I have two double pro fighters one 24 and other 32 meg versions. I paid 35 quid each for them as untested both work fine. I have one of those u have in the video and a pro fighter x2
That stuff was used to pirate SNES games and sell them, like today on Ebay (SOM2 PAL, Zelda 4 etc.). I don't thing you can save a game while in floppy disk, you have to transfer it to a catridge.
these are still useful today for the simple fact that super ufo's/wild card's can dump saves from cart to floppy, thus enabling a person to dump the save file, then replace the cart's battery back up. You can then write the save file back on.
What an excellent little device. Looks like someone else may have taken a crack at replacing the the floppy drive in the past. Your update to this video will be one of those "found footage" movies in witch an unsuspecting tinker purchases a haunted video game accessory.
I know there are way more efficient and practical ways of playing backups nowadays, but getting your SNES to load them off floppies is weirdly satisfying. That sounds kinda sinister!
Retro video game console fixing videos are my crack. I need more. Your videos in particular have helped me a lot repairing gameboys and installing a backlight on the original GB. =)
You got a bargain there. I had one of these back in the day cost £350 for the DX version Donkey Kong Country had just come out and took 3 floppies to load. You could rip a cartridge to a floppy in minutes nice piece of kit!
Why is it when I buy something broken (as well as a few 'working') items off eBay they are actually broken. Still trying to fix my Pal MegaDrive that happened to have an NTSC mobo in it.
I think someone tried to load a game bigger then 16Mbit as this model can't run games bigger then 16Mbit, there are some 24Mbit units, and 32Mbit units if i remember correctly, also they can't handle any of the Super FX games, so that seller could have also tried to load a Super FX game that did not work.
I love you're video's. Found your channel 2 day's ago I have watched almost half of it by right now. if to say true I have a nostalgia on old games but you're let's repair video's that's what got me watching I'll hope you will keep doing new video's pretty soon
Thanks for bringing me back over 20 years. :) Quite a steal of a price, considering these grey-market devices went for US$500+ back in the early 90s. Many of us homebrew SNES/SFC developers from the 90s had them, as they were the easiest way to test code running on the SNES/SFC. I'm quite familiar with the original SWC, SWC DX/DX32, and SWC DX2, including writing PC software for LPT port transfer (a lot faster than the floppy method, but a lot more temperamental; you really need a system with a classic LPT port running in SPP mode (not EPP or EPP+ECP), using Windows 98SE or earlier (to permit direct LPT I/O without the kernel getting in the way)).
I thought Super NES Mini hardware clones like these have RGB output already? What happens if you directly plug in an NTSC Super NES SCART cable into the system? Also, there's a reason why this clone works with the Super Wild Card without a game in the slot. It's because there's no lockout chip in the clone; to my knowledge, these copiers use the lockout chip present on Super NES game cartridges in order to work on an original system.
There was probably dampness or mold or something in your old rig. Similar thing happened to my Dad's rig after he stored it in the leaky garage over the winter.
RetroGameTech Depends where it went wrong. Could have even been a large spider making residence, causing a short. Normally, the mobo gets toast, but, if it had a quality PSU, you might be okay.
Are the disks formatted DOS compatible? The upshot of that would let you copy all the files on those floppies off and burn an archival backup CD ROM. I did that with my collection of over 1,500 3.5" HD floppies.
That's a nice find! It seems to work allright. I think you've got a winner. I remember those Verbatim datalife and TDK disks, my dad often bought those brands. There where good, reliable brands if my memory serves me well.
Faulty device that isn't faulty at all, winning! Cool device. Same thing happened to me when I thought I was buying a spare part Mega Drive and it turned out to be functioning perfectly after all.
Great video as always! That is one unique piece of tech! Although, like you said, it's a lot like people using SD cards today. You can get external USB floppy drives for PCs today; that way you could download homebrews and the like.
That's the plan provided the games are easily patched and not in some sort of unknown format. I've ordered an external floppy drive for the laptop to mess about with :)
The obvious mod would be to replace the floppy with a floppy emulator to allow you to load and back up to usb sticks. Though, in this day and age there are modern alternatives based on the Super Wildcard like the UFO Pro-8 that use SD cards that would cost about the same as this vintage SWC cost you, so maybe just keep it original?
***** oh okok makes sense.. i had super street fighter in mind when i was thinking of that. I still use a lot of old music gear that requires floppy disks.. i have moving boxes of them haha.
also to add it says 16mb on the front and the next one up is 24mb but the one you want is the 32mb as newer games require more memory. if I remember right Street fighter etc
Is it POSSIBLE to add a SSD USB EMULATOR Drive in replace of the old Floppy drive? I hear those can load up a USB thumb drive and play multiple files of a single unit!? That did be CRAZY! :-)
i wonder if you put in something like this www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-144MB-Upgrade-Floppy-Drive-to-USB-Flash-Disk-Drive-Emulator-CD-Screws-FT-/221706722597?hash=item339ec01d25:g:OwsAAOSwnDxUhX2j would the damn thing work?
It depends on how many floppy disk drives the driver in the wild cart system will work with. Those devices are pretty generic so they should work, and be quite a bit faster too.
it only lets the system see one at a time. I am guessing if you do the setup on a pc then it should work with no problems for all the virtual disk drives this thing is supporting.It would be cool to see it in action .
that thing looks really useful! i might try to find one myself! one suggestion on getting a floppy drive though, they sell external floppy drives for about 10 usd that plug into usb
What happens when you try to run a game from floppy that requires a Super FX chip on it like Star Fox? I'd be surprised if that device has a Super FX chip but could still be interesting to try.
I'm surprised it doesn't have its own power supply. It might degrade the image quality of the output image if its getting all its juice through the cartridge port.
I really love how you aren't yelling or speaking loudly as if we were complete idiots. You're really calm and collected and it's awesome. Nice video!
Thank you! :)
in this episode , we fix it by turning it on
Haha, I got lucky this time.
I had one as a kid, you really need to make something to prop it up, as if it comes away from the pins while the SNES is switched on, it'll blow it's fuse.
Happened to me a couple of times.
will you ever do a video about this beast?
AquaDonkey69 480p
Possibly, I'm building a collection of them! Got some really bizarre ones.
Hello, YOU!
The smell is horrible would knock me sick
*****
Stop that, I need my voice to speak myself :D
A floppy drive for the Super Nintendo. Stuff like this is why I love this channel so much
Thanks! :)
RetroGameTech Wow, a reply again? What a month!
@@RetroGameTech I have one which seems to have a dud floppy drive , is this an easy fix and also how do you find out what floppy drive to replace it with. ? Thanks
do open it please
it has a backup battery that fails
it needs to be removed or it will eat the tracks
Thanks for the tip! I never knew that. Will open it up when I get the new drive. Cheers!
i happen to have the battery infront of me
nimh 80mah 3.6v
this one
www.ebay.com/itm/1-pcs-80mAh-3-6V-Ni-MH-Button-Cell-Rechargeable-Battery-w-Tab-Green-/351792398716?hash=item51e876017c:g:unIAAOSwENxXlcOL
Thanks for the warning! I immediately opened my device and the battery was terrible... But not much damage on the board yet. I need to sand it and neutralice it (+ new battery and caps). Seems like its not very hard to upgrade it to 32m, or to ntsc. There seems to be some bios updates too. And i believe that the usb floppy emulator will work also, cause it uses only 5v. But it might need the 100x floppy not the 1000x. There has been some issues with those on other systems. It would be nice to see video for the upgrade too.
Good point, thanks. Its the cheap NI-CD battery. I think i will put battery holder and Li-ion to it. I will try to put that floppy emulator too, the E100 version (2 digits).
Kangsteri don't use lipo
The internal charger can't handle that
It was a pirate disk device like this back in the day that got me introduced to a ton of games I still love today. An older friend tried his hand at importing and selling these, and even had one with cross compatibility between the SNES and Megadrive - it literally fit and worked perfectly with both consoles. I remember going into town to buy packs 12 megabit 'high density' floppies and loving how they could hold potentially three separate games each. I also remember exchanging the device and three loaded cases of disks for a bike. What a terrible decision that was in retrospect.
Wow! compatible with both systems! I need one of those!
Would've loved to had this as a kid. My local rental store would've gotten suspicious when I rented a game and returned to get a new one every couple hours. LOL
Proof that game bootlegging has been around forever, regardless how complicated it has to be.
MantaRayGun that's exactly what I was thinking
I had modded NES and SNES back in the day, running converters (honeybee) and cartridges with obscene amounts of games on each, straight out of Japan.
dunxy Like an Everdrive? Do you remember the name, by any chance? I'm interested in multicart stuff.
Putting ROMs of old games onto floppy disk and using them is such an incredibly cool idea
***** Not sure about that, but it is just really interesting to see something thinking outside the box.
***** ah! Gotcha! I guess that would save a tiny bit of room if you put the carts into the storage shed. otherwise, Floppy Disks deteriorate over time...so I don't see any other benefits of this. It's still cool.
I wonder if you could transplant an amiga floppy emulator drive and the use flash cards or usb sticks to read the roms off of it.
yeah probably a GOTEK or a HXC emulator would work...
Every time I see your new video on sugestions in youtube Im trying to find 10 minutes of peace and calm atmosphere to properly enjoy the video,they are grate man,keep them coming!
Glad you enjoy them! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
I wonder if they tested it on an original SNES with a region lockout chip. Your clone probably doesn't have one. That could be why it didn't work for them.
So I bough another piece of faulty junk from e-bay. Let's just plug it into my console and... It's working fein.
I would guess the seller has had it laying around for years but no longer has the console. Better to sell it as faulty than as working and then getting negative feedback and complaints if it had stopped working.
I've got a tonne of junk like that and I'd not sell it as working unless I could test it before sending it out.
Why do people suddenly start sentences with "So..."? Really annoying.
So you just noticed that?
ZeldaBoy savage
*puts on grammar Nazi hat*
You can use so when introducing a concluding question or statement.
So I kicked him in the nuts.
So you just noticed that?
*takes off hat and easy peel off Nazi forehead sticker*
Something you should have tested is if all types of SNES games worked in the device, remember there is games with special chips inside them like star fox that require the super fx chip and others like mega man x series that require other chips so some of them may not work on the device which could be why it was thought to be faulty. Now another thing if it says you need a game inside the unit to play games yet you can play them without, this could suggest that these other games with specific chips might not load on the device without a game inside that has the specific chip maybe? might be something you want to document and test before saying the entire unit is operational ;)
An incredible find. I had no idea such a device existed. I didn't mind this wasn't a teardown or repair video. I look forward to the next video
Thank you :)
I wonder if the original owner used an original SNES that had DRM protection but didn't know they needed to have a cartridge installed to get passed it, but because he's using a clone SNES that might not have the original DRM it didn't matter.
I had one of these on an original US SNES. It worked without a cartridge plugged in, only needed to plug one if if you were going to play it or dump the ROM to a floppy.
Wrong, Kyler. He even states in the video that it's a clone.
How many times can Kyler own himself?
its a snes Jr, so its technically a clone of the original snes. anyways, It is so ugly. Nes Jr was prettier.
FireAdrix Not an official SNES Jr. He opened the system before and found it was a hardware clone of the SNES Jr rather than the real thing.
Shame there was nothing wrong with it but an awesome pickup for the price!
Im sure he doesnt think its a shame there was nothing wrong with it.
Haha! Maybe he does - he likes the challenge of fixing stuff!
It's kinda bittersweet :P . Less work for me, but less content for the video.
RetroGameTech ...martin...ive got a couple of snes and a megadrive faulty motherboards if you need something challenging..im down here in london..been hesitating to write here publicly..I dont do social media..my mobile is 07975560182..one snes has black screen the other black bars...one MD blank the other unstable graphics..also a super famicom with blank screen..thanks specs
Putting your phone number in the comments of a youtube video? I cant think of a much worse idea than that. Not smart bud.
What about the games that use the Super FX 2 Chips?
that would be cool to try out.
there is probably something compareable in it
No chip-enhanced games worked. This thing functions by copying the game code to its own RAM, and passing its RAM into to console (or saving it to a diskette). Enhancement chips can't be replicated like that.
Essentially, this thing has the same restrictions as an Everdrive.
Technically you can run DSP-1 games like Mario Kart if you have a game with that chip in the slot, but that's the only chip you can work around like that.
thechristoph Thanks for the insight!
This brings back memories. My brother borrowed one for his SNES, the only game I remember us having on floppy disk was Rock 'N Roll Racing. Loads of fun.
Wow. Brings back some memories. Had my wild card years ago. Had literally hundreds of games. There was this shop in Croydon, South London, that would get the latest games from Japan. Every week I would order new games. Only cost a couple of pounds too. Good times. They were some proper weird Japanese games out there too.
Been trying to get a double Pro fighter a while now,Was kind of hoping this was broken as I know these things have a massive fail rate and would like to know how to fix some of the common problems!
Floppy disks bring back so much childhood nostalgia for my Commodore Amigas :) never heard of this system but it looks pretty cool. Great vid!
My old PSU blew up when I took it down from the loft too. Somebody said it may have had condensation coming from the cold loft to the warm room, and should have left it a while before trying to turn it on
googleboughtmee I don't know how old your sys tree m was but if it's about 15-10 years old there was a very widespread case of bad capacitors used in electronics. Power supplies and regulator circuits use caps a lot. It was s whole big thing about industrial espionage and someone stole the formula for an electrolytic capacitor, but the formula wasn't complete or was deliberately booby trapped so the chemistry was a bit off. So long story not so short, if you are willing to solder it look for bulging or blown caps.
No way I had one of these way back in 95ish i would copy my game take it back say it didnt work and then do it all agian
Or just rent games and copy them. Maybe not as economical, but still works. I would have copied every game I could get my hands on as a kid.
Rent them!?. It was 1995
+michael brown what you didn't rent games in 1995? I sure did. Blockbuster was in its heyday and there was a mom n pop rental store on every block. where did u grow up?
Yeah we had blockbuster but was more film than games so was catoureloge or new
I'm sure you weren't the only one, haha
I'm wondering if you can replace the floppy drive with a USB floppy emulator so that you can use a USB drive to load and save games. If the Super Wild Card uses a standard PC floppy drive it should work, in theory.
I have been working on a few mods on the wildcard 1 used a floppy emulator drive loading straight from a usb 2nd is a parallel port ROM dumper. Also internet connection via controller port.
Only reason you don't need a game in the slot is because it's a clone that doesn't care about the lock-out chip.
He even says it's a clone in the video. More than once.
no the SNES doesn't have a lockout mine is real and does not have a lockout the pal and NTSC are different because of the shape of the cartridge
eein fredrickson Incorrect. SNES games had a CIC lockout chip. They were more for locking out bootlegs and unlicensed games and less about region locking.
Emmett Turner I don't know much about the lockout but I did experience that many early games worked fine on the system I used (called "UFO" or something) but then other games that were a bit newer like Mario All Stars would actually display a message about piracy and knew it was not geniune. My guess is that there were multiple generations of lockout chip software and noy just one type like the older NES's 10NES chip
ssdwellah That message was not triggered by the lockout chip. Without defeating the lockout chip it actually wouldn't get that far. The lockout chip is "defeated" by inserting a legitimate game into the top. The CIC key in the game pack will unlock the CIC lockout chip in the console and allow it to boot. That's how Game Genie, Pro Action Replay, Super Noah's 3D Ark, Super Wildcard, and Professor SF/Game Doctor, Super UFO, etc worked on a real SNES: they all used the CIC key inside an original game pak inserted into the top or back. The message you were seeing was related to Hi-ROM, Lo-ROM, and SRAM checks. For example, a game like Donkey Kong a Country might check that the SRAM exists and is at the right capacity. It might also test to see if read-only ROM addresses allow writes. If anything is different from what the game expects, it throws up that screen. A tool called UCON was excellent for cracking those checks and patching the ROMs so that they worked anyway.
the com port on the back let's you run roms from a PC directly to the device iirc.
Interesting. Probably dump them too?
Once again very nice, in a way I am more impressed already that you just managed to get one of these.
Yeah it was a bit of an impulse buy and a lucky find. Worked out well.
These things were the stuff of legend when I was at school, knew of one kid who supposedly had one but never saw it in action.
Totally! The stuff of playground myth, haha
Any new videos soon ? always enjoy your videos alot !
I really wanted to get one of these back in the day but they were too expensive for me.
Fascinating. Never saw one of these before. Neat piece of hardware!
Please do a follow up with some cool homebrews you find. Would be curious to see if it works!
That's a amazing device, I didn't know they existed. Too bad there wasn't a version for the USA SNES. BTW when I searched for info Super Wild Card on Google, they showed a picture of a later model hooked up to a parallel port Zip Drive.
Looks like you can input from the PC through the LPT port on the back. I wonder if you can access a harddrive in the PC instead of having all those floppies.
What a cool old thing! Great addition to the collection.
awesome, I remember seeing this on bad influence! when I was a kid. I always wanted one but never actually saw one. Thanks for reminding me about it.
I never saw that episode but I would have loved something like this for my MegaDrive back in the day! It probably cost a fortune back then.
It seems to take perfectly standard 3.5" PC floppy drives. You could also get a floppy emulator drive and go totally flash storage, so you don't have to mess with floppies and have a bunch of images on one USB stick.
If you want something to do with that super wild card, you could try modding in an SD slot so it's a bit more modernised :P
Would not be worth it with this model as you would have to use CF card to floppy IDE, and this unit can't handle games bigger then 16Mbit in size anyways, or any of Super FX games. You are better off with a homebrewed Wii running the games via emulation. Also to note you have to apply special patches to the games to make them work, and the menu system can't handle that many files. Also another option if you want true hardware is something like an SD2SNES or Super EverdDrive that directly accepts full size SD cards.
Commodorefan64 I was with you up until Wii. There's no need to hassle with setting up that, a 10 year old laptop is more than capable of emulating snes games.
D-no P the SWC isn't any better for handling enhancement chips. infact thanks to its age it's worse.
RevengeofGothzilla seriously after getting the last Wii update, it was about a 30 mins process to do the letter bomb hack, and to download the homebrew channel then install the emulators, about maybe another 5-10 mins to transfer all the various game roms to my SD card, plus I don't have to pull out a laptop, AC adapter, usb controller and VGA/HDMI cables everytime I want to play a game on my big flat screen TV I can just sit down in my big oversized lazy boy pick up my Wii Mote, and Wii controller Pro, and I'm ready to game fire up a game in no time. If I want to game on the go I just grab my Android phone, and MOGA Hero Power Bluetooth controller, and I'm good to go.
RevengeOfGothzilla 14 yr old laptops are good emulators too, i can even emulate PS1 (albiet with graphical issues)
I fell quite lucky I have a few of these as a collector, but at the same time I don't let people take the piss in regards cost. I have two double pro fighters one 24 and other 32 meg versions. I paid 35 quid each for them as untested both work fine. I have one of those u have in the video and a pro fighter x2
I *loved* my Wildcard back when I was a kid! Goddamn that thing was just.... heaven.
So there was a floppy disc reader for the snes, third party I'm assuming (chinese), that read floppies of SNES games?
That stuff was used to pirate SNES games and sell them, like today on Ebay (SOM2 PAL, Zelda 4 etc.).
I don't thing you can save a game while in floppy disk, you have to transfer it to a catridge.
capzombie
Huh, I never knew. It's pretty cool actually.
You can save to a floppy, it makes a separate SRAM file
oh god. is that airbusters? i remember that game... we got it for xmas around the time lion king and cool spot came out... ahhh to be a kid again.
man...you have to upload more, I absolutely love your videos!
these are still useful today for the simple fact that super ufo's/wild card's can dump saves from cart to floppy, thus enabling a person to dump the save file, then replace the cart's battery back up. You can then write the save file back on.
That is pretty handy. You could even download other people saves and put them on your own cart.
You could put a Gotek floppy drive emulator in the SWC. Saves you the hassle with floppy discs :)
It can connect to an externel cd rom drive too, not only it loads faster than floppy disks, it can store hundreds to thousand of games on one CD.
hteekay *Hundreds.
a standard single layer CD-ROM is 650mb. Max rom size for a SNES is about 2.44mbs
well not all roms are at equal sizes some are really small but you're right it can only fit hundreds . Which is hundred times more than floppy disks.
i thought you had left youtube for good, so i searched you up in my subs and i'm very happy to see that you're here again! Liked the video!
Aah dude, what a break! I'm so curious about the next update! ... have fun with this little gem
Missing your videos again! Everything OK, and future vids coming up?
What an excellent little device.
Looks like someone else may have taken a crack at replacing the the floppy drive in the past.
Your update to this video will be one of those "found footage" movies in witch an unsuspecting tinker purchases a haunted video game accessory.
I know there are way more efficient and practical ways of playing backups nowadays, but getting your SNES to load them off floppies is weirdly satisfying.
That sounds kinda sinister!
Bought it in April and just got it in October? I've heard of snail mail but did they literally use snails? Damn that's a long time.
Maybe he just decided to do it now?
Just long enough to get the authorities to forget he sold it before he ships it out in case he was being watched?
nice to see more uploads again buddy, missed getting my fix of your videos :)
Thank you!
Retro video game console fixing videos are my crack. I need more.
Your videos in particular have helped me a lot repairing gameboys and installing a backlight on the original GB. =)
Thanks for watching and commenting :)
Good to see your videos again. It would be fascinating if you could put one of those sd or cf to floppy converters in there and see if it would work.
I was thinking the same thing. I'll be keeping an eye out for one :)
Drat, it wasn't broken. Oh well, guess we will just have to live with it.
Glad to see you still aren't dead. I've missed your sign off.
You got a bargain there. I had one of these back in the day cost £350 for the DX version Donkey Kong Country had just come out and took 3 floppies to load. You could rip a cartridge to a floppy in minutes nice piece of kit!
Why is it when I buy something broken (as well as a few 'working') items off eBay they are actually broken.
Still trying to fix my Pal MegaDrive that happened to have an NTSC mobo in it.
I think someone tried to load a game bigger then 16Mbit as this model can't run games bigger then 16Mbit, there are some 24Mbit units, and 32Mbit units if i remember correctly, also they can't handle any of the Super FX games, so that seller could have also tried to load a Super FX game that did not work.
It's possible. I have a feeling the seller wasn't the original owner and wasn't 100% familiar with the device.
I was thinking that it would be a case of their snes not working!
Is that the precursor to the NINTENDO Drive which the N64 sits on top off which takes modified ZIP discs.
I love you're video's. Found your channel 2 day's ago I have watched almost half of it by right now. if to say true I have a nostalgia on old games but you're let's repair video's that's what got me watching I'll hope you will keep doing new video's pretty soon
they have floppy drive replacement drives that use sd cards instead of floppys. they fit exactly like a floppy drive does.
Thanks for bringing me back over 20 years. :) Quite a steal of a price, considering these grey-market devices went for US$500+ back in the early 90s. Many of us homebrew SNES/SFC developers from the 90s had them, as they were the easiest way to test code running on the SNES/SFC. I'm quite familiar with the original SWC, SWC DX/DX32, and SWC DX2, including writing PC software for LPT port transfer (a lot faster than the floppy method, but a lot more temperamental; you really need a system with a classic LPT port running in SPP mode (not EPP or EPP+ECP), using Windows 98SE or earlier (to permit direct LPT I/O without the kernel getting in the way)).
that's some obscure stuff for the snes and i love those unlicensed things! you got a nice one here dude!
Fun video, Copy boxes are Wicked !
I thought Super NES Mini hardware clones like these have RGB output already? What happens if you directly plug in an NTSC Super NES SCART cable into the system?
Also, there's a reason why this clone works with the Super Wild Card without a game in the slot. It's because there's no lockout chip in the clone; to my knowledge, these copiers use the lockout chip present on Super NES game cartridges in order to work on an original system.
I saw lots of them when I visited Hong Kong in 1995. I was very surprised to see such device back then.
+RetroGameTech I'm pretty sure thats a revision 2 Snes cause I own one boxed complete its in storage, but I'm from US.
Random videos That is actually a clone :P
I previously did a video on the console I used here. Mine is a hardware clone of the real SNES Jr.
RetroGameTech I was alluding to that video, which I already watched :P
Good score on that device. I like those older non-licensed products.
Same, I love the obscure unofficial hardware from previous gens.
There was probably dampness or mold or something in your old rig. Similar thing happened to my Dad's rig after he stored it in the leaky garage over the winter.
It's very possible but my loft is really well ventilated and dry. Either way the PSU is toast. Hope the mobo is ok :(
RetroGameTech Depends where it went wrong. Could have even been a large spider making residence, causing a short. Normally, the mobo gets toast, but, if it had a quality PSU, you might be okay.
i wonder if that thing can support a usb floppy drive emulator device
Are the disks formatted DOS compatible? The upshot of that would let you copy all the files on those floppies off and burn an archival backup CD ROM. I did that with my collection of over 1,500 3.5" HD floppies.
Cool!!! Do you think a gotek drive would work in this thing? That would be awesome!
That's a nice find! It seems to work allright. I think you've got a winner. I remember those Verbatim datalife and TDK disks, my dad often bought those brands. There where good, reliable brands if my memory serves me well.
Well they seem to still work, so your memory is serving you well. :)
TDK, BASF, Maxell and FUJI were the best for audio and VHS tapes and discs.
I really love the look of the Pal SNES. It's a thing of beauty.
These things were obsolete before flash carts were invented :p
Still 100x cooler than a flashcart though :)
RetroGameTech Points for that :p
Faulty device that isn't faulty at all, winning! Cool device. Same thing happened to me when I thought I was buying a spare part Mega Drive and it turned out to be functioning perfectly after all.
I just wonder if there are some temperamental caps hiding inside, haha.
How did it not get pulled by ebay staff? OTOH I tried to list an Action Replay DS and it got yanked even though there's a lot of those on eBay ;)
Don't put it on auction. People report that stuff to minimize competition.
Is that a Pentium 4 machine? Haven't seen one of those in a long long time. Looks almost new.
Great video as always! That is one unique piece of tech! Although, like you said, it's a lot like people using SD cards today. You can get external USB floppy drives for PCs today; that way you could download homebrews and the like.
Yeah I signed in to suggest just that. It should greatly reduce load times.
That's the plan provided the games are easily patched and not in some sort of unknown format. I've ordered an external floppy drive for the laptop to mess about with :)
Have you tried the port? Definitely chance to connect it to a pc and maybe ignore the floppydrive altogether
The obvious mod would be to replace the floppy with a floppy emulator to allow you to load and back up to usb sticks.
Though, in this day and age there are modern alternatives based on the Super Wildcard like the UFO Pro-8 that use SD cards that would cost about the same as this vintage SWC cost you, so maybe just keep it original?
I will probably keep it as is but mess around with it to see what works :)
so this would work for mining roms from actual carts to play on emulators?
from memory it rips it in it a weird format and file type.
This is only a 16M system but im sure you can expand it, I had a 32M model in the 90's and it was great!
yes you could . i remember them too. i only had the 16m one myself.
Yup, you can do that. I had the 16M model and got a memory expansion for it. Someone in the UK did it for me if I remember it correctly. :)
what was the difference? it could play larger games or something? Also, were there any cases where games got split across several floppy disks?
MrDebauch Yup, larger games. A lot of games were split on two disks. I can't remember if there was any game that needed three of them though.
***** oh okok makes sense.. i had super street fighter in mind when i was thinking of that. I still use a lot of old music gear that requires floppy disks.. i have moving boxes of them haha.
also to add it says 16mb on the front and the next one up is 24mb but the one you want is the 32mb as newer games require more memory. if I remember right Street fighter etc
I wonder how easy it would be to throw some extra RAM in this thing. I can see a socketed chip through the cart flap.
SF2 Turbo is only 20 or 24Mb. My Wild Card is the 24Mb and SF2 Turbo works fine. 2 discs it takes though.
I'm guessing the seller listed it as faulty because they weren't able to test it, so they wanted to cover their bases. Great score for you though!
Congratulations. Your SNES Jr evolved into SNES Sr!
Is it POSSIBLE to add a SSD USB EMULATOR Drive in replace of the old Floppy drive? I hear those can load up a USB thumb drive and play multiple files of a single unit!? That did be CRAZY! :-)
Heya mate! Keep these coming. :) Love the content you are creating.
wow someone who finally has heard of R-Type! used to play it soo much on my Playstation!
are you going to be doing any new videos?
This is such a cool little piece of tech. Love it
Very interesting. That is a cool "flashcart" but very impractical nowadays
Yes, but FLOPPY DISKS
This!
i wonder if you put in something like this www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-144MB-Upgrade-Floppy-Drive-to-USB-Flash-Disk-Drive-Emulator-CD-Screws-FT-/221706722597?hash=item339ec01d25:g:OwsAAOSwnDxUhX2j would the damn thing work?
It depends on how many floppy disk drives the driver in the wild cart system will work with. Those devices are pretty generic so they should work, and be quite a bit faster too.
it only lets the system see one at a time. I am guessing if you do the setup on a pc then it should work with no problems for all the virtual disk drives this thing is supporting.It would be cool to see it in action .
Interesting, can you use SD-to-floppy adapter with this thing?
I've never heard of such a thing. That thing is amazing.
that thing looks really useful! i might try to find one myself!
one suggestion on getting a floppy drive though, they sell external floppy drives for about 10 usd that plug into usb
What happens when you try to run a game from floppy that requires a Super FX chip on it like Star Fox? I'd be surprised if that device has a Super FX chip but could still be interesting to try.
I don't think those games will work. Mario Kart didn't work when I tried to copy that and it has a DSP chip.
I'm surprised it doesn't have its own power supply. It might degrade the image quality of the output image if its getting all its juice through the cartridge port.
please do a video where you try all those floppy's