I really only bought it to get started into doing inside shoots and add some cool outside low grounds shots in addition to my DJI Mini 3. I 'm up here in Tallahassee so it is concerning to hear about the humidity problems with the goggles.
I didn't buy one yet, but totally agree with your points. I kind of panned it when I first saw it, but I think you're absolutely right - as it being a cinewhoop, it's designed for a cinewhoop application. And you have to have appropriate expectations for the use cases of your given tools. I have my Chimera 7 and Roma F5 and 7 for high-wind/rough conditions FPV, but I hadn't considered the up-close and personal type of use case. And I think you're also right about the cost compared to a DIY build. So I may end up getting one eventually after all.
I bought the Avata plus the FPV remote 2. On my third flight I flew through my door from outside, through my home and back out a window. I had no intention of buying this before I saw it last week. As a beginner FPV pilot, this is exactly what I expected and wished for.
Thank you for pointing out the 250$ action camera addition when comparing prices. Action cameras are pretty durable but usually it's been my most broken item other then motors. Luckily I didn't sell my DJI controller for 75$ before it was launched.
I think your points are valid. I have a cinelog 35 which is a little better at freestyle, and quieter but I got out of luck when my FC blew after 6 lipo's. With the avata it would be warranty. I put a quad in the sea when low level cruising. The Avata keeps great height and visibility is great. I have no issues with fogging but I warm the goggles before flight. Anti fog wipes would be useful also. I will get rid of my 5 inch, Cinelog and other quads except for my 3,5 inch ripper (sub250 with Go2) and my Recon35. I might consider another 5 or 7 inch quad with the new air unit if compatible with the goggles 2. The Avata fills a lot of my needs in a handy, durable and reliable package.
I just flew my Avata yesterday for the first time. I had more fun flying this than any other drone I have tried. Laughing the whole time, worth every penny. I am a beginner fpv person & like flying around near the ground, buzzing the church tower, etc.
The voice of reason! I've seen so many videos that (maybe because it has Acro mode) diss the craft because it can't handle fast yaw turns or punch out like a 5". Exactly like you say this quad is meant to fly low and precisely and that's exactly what it does. I had a BetaFPV Pavo 25 that can not compare to the Avata simply because of the altitude control when in angle mode. Thank you for talking sense and seeing the Avata for exactly what it is.
Thank you for applying a true FPV perspective upon this little guy. Between this and your house tour run pretty sure you're giving the best demos of what it IS meant to be. Sub'd on this one; nice work
You mention the fogging of the goggles. Have you considered diver's spit? Comes in a little bottle, squirt or spray type. Just a couple drops, rub it lightly in and you'll have no fogging.
Thanks for the cool video Ken. Just put the Ribbed Riders on my Avata and they look very cool to me. Put a few .22 cartridges in there for bling and they really set it off nicely. 🤪 Btw I fly everything from micro whoops to 7". I enjoy them all and had a pretty good idea what the Avata was all about before buying, really enjoying it.
Hey, man. To prevent goggles from fogging up you can use your own saliva to wipe on the lenses. Even better is a slice of raw potato. And the very best are the defogging drops for scuba diving masks. Hope this helps :-)
Used it extensively inside in very confined conditions. Worked very well. ( as opposed to when I used the Mini 3 in the same conditions....CRASH ) With half the width of Mini 3 ( and the duct guards ) it goes from room to room quite easily. P.S. Don't forget to put the loss of controller signal to hover before you fly. ( luckily it happened in a low ceiling area )
Lol. Did the same with with my Mini 3 Pro. Used up those spare props first day of ownership 😂. Now that I've got both I feel like I've got a pretty sweet combo to do almost everything I'm interested in without breaking the bank.
I'm sure I'll get one eventually. I have the goggles and remote already, but to me the true cost is $900, because I'd never buy a $600+ drone without a charger and extra batteries. I've really enjoyed all the comprehensive info you've done on this quad.
Totally agree, and I’m alway amused when the first thing someone does with a whoop style drone is try to fly it like it’s a 5” and then use the fact that It doesn’t preform like one as ding against it 🤷♂️ . It’s great, I love it, the goggles are great too but eye adjustments are easily knocked out of place if you’re not really careful when handling them.
Did you know you can lock the adjusters? Helps a lot. Push and twist. I just wish they fit my face. I even cut the nose section out and it still hits my nose.
Did you know you can lock the adjusters? Helps a lot. Push and twist. I just wish they fit my face. I even cut the nose section out and it still hits my nose.
@@amay8282 dude you just saved my sanity. In the setup guide I was reading on the app it just said to "push in to lock" and they were just springing back out. That guide needs an update. Thanks for the tip!
Yep it’s all true. My only real gripes are the lack of FPV controller and the fact that they didn’t even include a cable to charge either controller within any of the packaging. That and the FPV controller couldn’t even connect to the Avata by default and needed updates. Over all as someone who’s never flown a cinewhoop but has flown diy 5”s and mavics I am impressed. Mostly because I flew analogue and the digital goggles are a significant upgrade lol.
Great video. Not only the GPS pilots but also I've been seeing harsh and unfair criticism about Avata from some serious FPV pilots. I'm not sure whether the fact that Avata is plug n play with minimum effort makes them tick. Do they see Avata as a threat to their occupation or skills, not sure. But anyway, informative video.
Love my avata, I'm getting better with it...I enjoy using the motion controller for high speed low drag, and normal controller for slower cinematic shots
Been great following your journey with the Avata, you have really hit on a lot of good points concerning this drone. Mine should arrive in the next couple of days, looking forward to flying and enjoying it.
THANK YOU !!! Finally, someone that gets this right. It's not louder, it has a different pitch. It's not meant for racing. Not really meant for freestyle either. And finally, the truth about the price. Anyone that purchased or built a cinewhoop, it requires the extra camera. so a lot of the time it's going to cost you more than the Avata. I absolutely love mine. And it's really helping learn FPV without the headache having to go thru iNav or BetaFlight confgurations and configuring your radio equipment. I never tried the motion controller before, and I am really liking it a lot for simple, relaxed flying. I have tried those bumpers, but I don't like that they are slightly in view of the camera. Thank you again for telling it like it is. I use the FPV Goggles V2 since I now have 2 of them. Goggles 2 are on the way, just to try them out.
Hi Ken, I avoid PhillyLife posts because I see a lot of flying I disagree with (to each their own). I mostly rely on your videos, Billy's and The Pilot Institute ones because I trust the content to be useful and honest. I watch others as well but not as much. Just wanted to say thank you for all the great information you provide!
Great video man. I've seen a couple videos about people complaining about features that the Avata doesn't have (Object tracking/master shots) and I think they miss the point of the drone entirely. I've had mine for a couple of weeks now and have been loving it so far. It is the first drone I've really crashed an I can attest that the prop guards are pretty durable. I also love how DJI provides replacement parts and due to the "relatively" low cost or a RTF cinewhoop if it ends up getting trashed it really isn't the end of the world. I just wish they would make purchasing the motion controller optional.
@@OriginaldoBo I'm new to the fpv world but it worked insanely good on my oculus. First FPV will be the Avata and I'm excited. Thanks for the knowledge man, it's been super helpful on making my choice
Great vid. One thing I don’t like about it is that I crashed into a tree and it lifted up into the air and got stuck into the tree and flipped over and shut off. I’m still trying to find it in the tree. It’s like five Georgia trees merge together. Since it shut off none of the locating devices will work. Luckily I still have the video and kind a have idea of where it is. Still searching 🙏🏻
I really appreciate your non bias. So many pilots are DJI haters. But I disagree with motion controller. this is for indoor flights or close range outdoors. The motion controller is perfect for this.
I agree price wise as a digital whoop, I think it is price competitive. My only complaint is I ordered the drone, with insurance and fly more kit and the controller 2 is out of stock, feel like DJI is trying to force us to purchase the single hand hand controller on you. I have a drone I cant fly until they resolve the issue,
THanks! good points, I had all those in mind b4 buying. BUT: coming from phantoms / mavics / airs my biggest disappointment was signal reach. yes i m in CE territory and i did try an unlock which did increase range. but compared to all the other gps models it's still bad. not sure why. maybe the FCC hack didnt also switch to 2.4 and its still at 5.8...
great info Ken i am mostly camera drone guy but couple years ago got into fpv had to learn how charge batteries and betaflight one i flew plenty was a whoop Pavo30 HD a pusher drone and ya never usually took it up over 100ft cause they are for more cinematic shots and not easy flyin manual really enjoyed Pavo but am getting Avata which i believe i will enjoy more and prob will end up tryin manual at some point great spot you have there nice footage
i think because for the price people expect more. I waited for this to drop and decided with the FPV. If you want speed go for the FPV, for cinematic go with a Mavic. I dont really see where this product fits.
The jury is still out with this drone. If anything, I'd used this indoors for business. A church, a gymnasium, how about an Amazon warehouse or better yet, an indoor football game...these examples can net a paycheck in the end.
Im a bit confused, I have seen Avata cinematic content in the dolomites and cliff diving and it looked fantastic. And I am stoked at the idea of doing that sort of thing here in NZ, and I justifies that price. If I was going to just fly at the local playground/ low level and close vicinity then analogue is good enough?
@@numbskullfpv3403 one with the ducts it add an air restriction. Blown by wind more. Ducted drones always have this issue. Sometimes they might twitch a lil doing things
@@divingfalconfpv4602 Fascinating. I've noticed the twitch when being aggressive with the Avata, and wasn't aware that it was a characteristic of Cinewhoops. Thanks!
When dealing with whoops and dives, you must power out of the dive. Don't just pull up. If you just pull up/flat like you would with open props, you'll quite likely get the dreaded "yaw washout", and depending on what it felt like at the time, you might end up "on" that cliff.
Avata is fun, and useful camera tool - you demonstrate that so well. The noise is totally normal and fine, too! A lot of people just don't get the cinewhoop category. Oh, I don't have fogging, BUT I get light leak in the sides of my Goggles 2 on both sides... so I'm getting some ventilation. And, it has not been hot and muggy in Missouri where I am now that it's the first week of September. That's the only reason I assume that I haven't run into the fog issue... they really need to do something about that, wonder if they can crank the fan in there up with a firmware change? Don't know how much that would help given where it's apparently located...
I.m in agreement with your assessment overall. A whoop is a different kind of drone, and the people who have not flown fpv and are not familiar with whoops would have some misconceptions about this drone. This little whoop has got it's place in the kit. My only complaint is the fogging issue with the goggles, as that's something that I hope DJI can do a better job of addressing, otherwise it's not too bad. Thumbs up there Ken in a fair assessment.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt this the first of its kind in the market? People should really understand what it's about first before expecting that it would have everything they'd want in their custom made fpvs. Thanks for clearing this up.
I'm not sure "Calling out" philly drone life is the right terminology, he is simply giving his opinion , as are you, calling out suggests he is doing something wrong. Excellent low level and intricate flying, thanks for the video. 👍
Great info.. My avatar is arriving next week. I purchased the Pro View Combo. I'm wondering if it will arrive with the RC. I seen other unboxing videos saying it comes with the rc
Please could you elaborate a little more on why tha Avata is unstable at higher altitudes. Do you just mean smoothness of flying,and transitions of manoeuvres.
Thanks for the video! I’m a newbie droner. Just purchased a used Mavic air 2 about 3 weeks ago. Came complete with DJI bag 3 batteries, lenses, remote. I’ve got bitten by the rc bug now. Now I want a feeling of a FPV. The Avata seems like what i would like to begin with. I’m considering going directly thru DJI and purchasing a complete kit with 2 extra batteries. Think that’s a good choice??
So basically this cinewhoop costs about 650 euro's, it is GPS locked, you have to buy the RC seperately and you can throw the motion controller in the bin, you cant use this camera on other drones, it only works with the DJI RC, it is not customizable (settings or build), you can only do basic repairs on it,... It's basically Iphone compared to android. I don't see how this is a good choice for anyone but a complete beginner that has no gear. The complete kit is very expensive, and you dont even get a RC as standard. I really don't get all the hype.
You're correct on everything w the avata. It's sounds very different from a mavic pro , as far as height and battery life. Although I don't know much about whoops but u know more about it. So that being said, I'll probably wait till price drops by Christmas. Thank you for the info.🙂
I agree, not using it for high altitude or as a chase plane at my local RC club, my orginal FPVs will continueto be used. But am planning to use the hell out of it for exploring and low altitude photography. My only complaint is the goggles, excellent display, but pinches my nose and it gets warm here in NW Florida. Excellent video!😎👍
A hammer is fantastic at pounding nails but pretty garbage at screwing in a screw. Bought it because of your reviews and specifically because of your real estate fly through BTS. (I do real estate photography as well and you literally put money in my pocket! Absolutely love it and know that high altitude establishing shots are still for my Mavic and phantom. This gave me a tool for work and a wicked tool for recreation. New subscriber and fan
Thank you for continuing to make videos and release content! Your channel is great. I agree that people are using the Avata in all kinds of ways it wasn't designed for. My question is, in the videos you share from the Avata, the field of view does not look as distorted (fisheye) compared to many others. Is that because you are shooting at a narrower field of view (normal vs. wide vs. ultra wide), or because the stabilization crops away the more distorted areas, or a combination of both? I can't seem to find a good video that shows how much quality hit you take when switching between modes, but I also don't like the curved ultra wide look I see in so many other videos. Thanks for any insight you can provide!
lol i didnt realize til the very end of the video who you were, as i just purchased the ribbed riders from you on etsy a couple days ago. Hey quick question, what camera were you using to film your commentary / when you were walking? Great vid and i agree with just about all you covered.
Ha. Pretty sure I left a comment on Billy's review about how high he was flying and requesting more speed. But everyone has their thing. If he was flying lower, the max speed of that motion controller is plenty. I have actually taken my Avata to 350ft once. Just wanted to see how high it was. Don't have GPS on any of my other quads, so didn't really have a feel for how high I could get legally. But otherwise, I fly on the deck. It's always been my style. Kinda like pod racing. It is noisy. I knew that going in. I have the 95x, which is basically the same props at like a third of the weight. Weight equals noise unless your props are huge. But this drone checks some other boxes for me, so I'm able to overlook the noise. For those few times people have wanted a drone shot from me, I now can do it somewhat better than my other fpv drones could do since this has a gimbal. And I always kinda wanted the GPS NAV and RTH capabilities. Also, the motion controller gives opportunity to let others try it out. And of course,... the new goggles. That is 90% of my desire to get this drone. Like you said, we need to figure out the fogging. I doubt we can rely on DJI to fix that.
Fly the minis with prop guards and you'll know how the Avata feels in the wind =p. It doesn't do well in higher winds, and neither would a mini with prop guards on. It's obviously noisier than a camera drone but sort of middling for an FPV drone for sure.
Here in Chile and other countries doesn't had any other option that buy the bundle with the motion controller.... till now. Just wait to see the Avata No RC option
I'm just sad that they did not make an under 250g cinewoop. It doubles or triples the price of flying due to the cost of getting a license, which is no longer worth it.
Well if that ain’t super back peddling…nothings is. I cannot believe I was dumb , again. I must want to be fooled. It’s always the same, the first week it’s coming up roses . Then I buy one and then the videos role out with the actual reality . Fogging , really, diopters useless, some of the same stick errors that were around a year ago… Breaks my heart. The picture in the goggles are stunning …but you can’t focus through the optics to see it … I have to buy mine :(
I'm really liking this drone, I'm just trying to justify if I will actually use it or not. But honestly, price, value, what it can offer is all perfect. £499 for the drone, battery and charger is cheap for what you get... the GoPro alone isnt far off that. Just having to buy the controller and the extra batteries being £110 each is a bummer.
If you don't use the motion controller you likely haven't given head tracking a shot. That's how you get motion controller orbits focused on the subject.
Flying low and through trees is great when you can rely on the increased penetration of FCC mode. For us over the pond that have to make due with CE only it’s shocking when going behind anything… Don’t even think of entering a building or going behind some rebar.
Ken I think I’ve asked you this before and did not get a reply. How do you takeoff with that drone and be in manual mode from the get-go. I had the same issue when I had the potato. The only way to get it in the manual was to do the little thing you had to do like with centering in the sticks. I plan on ordering one as soon as I can find a controller as I already have the goggles I don’t need anything else. Thank you for all of your videos I learned so much every time
do you think they should of offered a lightweight battery? a 1000mah 4s... would save 150g... be a lot quieter.. better performance.. but 5-7 min flight time instead of 12-14... have you tested with standard Lipos?
People need to stop with the weight shit it’s perfectly fine at it’s current weight of 416 it’s take off is less than a Slammed Squirt with a 1050 6S and hero bones.
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Who bought the Avata and understood the assignment ?
yup and loving it... thanks for your honest perspective on things
I really only bought it to get started into doing inside shoots and add some cool outside low grounds shots in addition to my DJI Mini 3. I 'm up here in Tallahassee so it is concerning to hear about the humidity problems with the goggles.
I havent received mine yet
present and prepared!
I didn't buy one yet, but totally agree with your points. I kind of panned it when I first saw it, but I think you're absolutely right - as it being a cinewhoop, it's designed for a cinewhoop application. And you have to have appropriate expectations for the use cases of your given tools. I have my Chimera 7 and Roma F5 and 7 for high-wind/rough conditions FPV, but I hadn't considered the up-close and personal type of use case. And I think you're also right about the cost compared to a DIY build. So I may end up getting one eventually after all.
I bought the Avata plus the FPV remote 2. On my third flight I flew through my door from outside, through my home and back out a window. I had no intention of buying this before I saw it last week. As a beginner FPV pilot, this is exactly what I expected and wished for.
Where did you buy the FPV remote 2? It’s mostly unavailable right now
@@maximusolybrius4612 Used at Adorama for &100
@@maximusolybrius4612 i bought it via DJI web site and it came to my home address in 4 days. It was 1 month ago.
Thank you for pointing out the 250$ action camera addition when comparing prices. Action cameras are pretty durable but usually it's been my most broken item other then motors. Luckily I didn't sell my DJI controller for 75$ before it was launched.
I think your points are valid. I have a cinelog 35 which is a little better at freestyle, and quieter but I got out of luck when my FC blew after 6 lipo's. With the avata it would be warranty. I put a quad in the sea when low level cruising. The Avata keeps great height and visibility is great. I have no issues with fogging but I warm the goggles before flight. Anti fog wipes would be useful also. I will get rid of my 5 inch, Cinelog and other quads except for my 3,5 inch ripper (sub250 with Go2) and my Recon35. I might consider another 5 or 7 inch quad with the new air unit if compatible with the goggles 2. The Avata fills a lot of my needs in a handy, durable and reliable package.
"It's just not what it's designed to do." someone finally said it! I mean, I think this drone is more than good enough for what it's designed for.
I keep hearing people say it's expensive and not taking the cost of an action camera into account! Finally someone talking about this.
I just flew my Avata yesterday for the first time. I had more fun flying this than any other drone I have tried. Laughing the whole time, worth every penny. I am a beginner fpv person & like flying around near the ground, buzzing the church tower, etc.
The voice of reason! I've seen so many videos that (maybe because it has Acro mode) diss the craft because it can't handle fast yaw turns or punch out like a 5". Exactly like you say this quad is meant to fly low and precisely and that's exactly what it does. I had a BetaFPV Pavo 25 that can not compare to the Avata simply because of the altitude control when in angle mode. Thank you for talking sense and seeing the Avata for exactly what it is.
Thank you for applying a true FPV perspective upon this little guy. Between this and your house tour run pretty sure you're giving the best demos of what it IS meant to be.
Sub'd on this one; nice work
I agree with every point you made.
Glad to see someone understands that this drone is another tool in the belt and not an all in one solution.
You mention the fogging of the goggles. Have you considered diver's spit? Comes in a little bottle, squirt or spray type. Just a couple drops, rub it lightly in and you'll have no fogging.
Just bought some going to give it a go, I’ll report back
Thanks for the cool video Ken.
Just put the Ribbed Riders on my Avata and they look very cool to me.
Put a few .22 cartridges in there for bling and they really set it off nicely. 🤪
Btw I fly everything from micro whoops to 7".
I enjoy them all and had a pretty good idea what the Avata was all about before buying, really enjoying it.
Lmao 🤣 dude if you puts the .22 I’m there take a picture and tag me in that 🤣🤣🤣
By far the best, most detailed, objective reviews of the Avata on the web. Thanks man!
Hey, man. To prevent goggles from fogging up you can use your own saliva to wipe on the lenses. Even better is a slice of raw potato. And the very best are the defogging drops for scuba diving masks. Hope this helps :-)
Isn’t it hard to see with a slice of potato covering the lens?
Can I use my wife’s saliva?
* more readily available
Agreed it's not as loud as some people make it out to be in vids online, I was surprised when I got mine was expecting it to be louder.
Used it extensively inside in very confined conditions.
Worked very well. ( as opposed to when I used the Mini 3 in the same conditions....CRASH )
With half the width of Mini 3 ( and the duct guards ) it goes from room to room quite easily.
P.S. Don't forget to put the loss of controller signal to hover before you fly. ( luckily it happened in a low ceiling area )
Lol. Did the same with with my Mini 3 Pro. Used up those spare props first day of ownership 😂. Now that I've got both I feel like I've got a pretty sweet combo to do almost everything I'm interested in without breaking the bank.
I'm sure I'll get one eventually. I have the goggles and remote already, but to me the true cost is $900, because I'd never buy a $600+ drone without a charger and extra batteries. I've really enjoyed all the comprehensive info you've done on this quad.
Yeah it’s always those add ons that get you.
Totally agree, and I’m alway amused when the first thing someone does with a whoop style drone is try to fly it like it’s a 5” and then use the fact that It doesn’t preform like one as ding against it 🤷♂️ . It’s great, I love it, the goggles are great too but eye adjustments are easily knocked out of place if you’re not really careful when handling them.
Did you know you can lock the adjusters? Helps a lot. Push and twist. I just wish they fit my face. I even cut the nose section out and it still hits my nose.
Did you know you can lock the adjusters? Helps a lot. Push and twist. I just wish they fit my face. I even cut the nose section out and it still hits my nose.
@@amay8282 yes and I thought I did that but just been waiting to get in the air so quickly I may have not done it properly.
@@amay8282 dude you just saved my sanity. In the setup guide I was reading on the app it just said to "push in to lock" and they were just springing back out. That guide needs an update. Thanks for the tip!
Finally the best explained review so far, thanks for the info DOBO 👍📸📽🎥🚁
Yep it’s all true. My only real gripes are the lack of FPV controller and the fact that they didn’t even include a cable to charge either controller within any of the packaging. That and the FPV controller couldn’t even connect to the Avata by default and needed updates.
Over all as someone who’s never flown a cinewhoop but has flown diy 5”s and mavics I am impressed. Mostly because I flew analogue and the digital goggles are a significant upgrade lol.
I totally agree with your analysis, as you mentioned this drone is for a specific purpose and workflow.
That is one friggin incredible bag. The Avata is nice too.
PhillyDr... is just....Philly. He is the reason laws are made.
Great video. Not only the GPS pilots but also I've been seeing harsh and unfair criticism about Avata from some serious FPV pilots. I'm not sure whether the fact that Avata is plug n play with minimum effort makes them tick. Do they see Avata as a threat to their occupation or skills, not sure. But anyway, informative video.
@@ZabDevin i agree.
Good points. The loudness is very reasonable, as you mentioned. 👍
Your Shade game is commendable brother......
Love my avata, I'm getting better with it...I enjoy using the motion controller for high speed low drag, and normal controller for slower cinematic shots
Been great following your journey with the Avata, you have really hit on a lot of good points concerning this drone. Mine should arrive in the next couple of days, looking forward to flying and enjoying it.
THANK YOU !!! Finally, someone that gets this right. It's not louder, it has a different pitch. It's not meant for racing. Not really meant for freestyle either.
And finally, the truth about the price. Anyone that purchased or built a cinewhoop, it requires the extra camera. so a lot of the time it's going to cost you more than the Avata.
I absolutely love mine. And it's really helping learn FPV without the headache having to go thru iNav or BetaFlight confgurations and configuring your radio equipment.
I never tried the motion controller before, and I am really liking it a lot for simple, relaxed flying.
I have tried those bumpers, but I don't like that they are slightly in view of the camera.
Thank you again for telling it like it is.
I use the FPV Goggles V2 since I now have 2 of them. Goggles 2 are on the way, just to try them out.
Once again you're on point..some guys thought they was getting a Phantom 4 specs in that size I guess..lol
Hi Ken, I avoid PhillyLife posts because I see a lot of flying I disagree with (to each their own). I mostly rely on your videos, Billy's and The Pilot Institute ones because I trust the content to be useful and honest. I watch others as well but not as much. Just wanted to say thank you for all the great information you provide!
Great video man. I've seen a couple videos about people complaining about features that the Avata doesn't have (Object tracking/master shots) and I think they miss the point of the drone entirely. I've had mine for a couple of weeks now and have been loving it so far. It is the first drone I've really crashed an I can attest that the prop guards are pretty durable. I also love how DJI provides replacement parts and due to the "relatively" low cost or a RTF cinewhoop if it ends up getting trashed it really isn't the end of the world. I just wish they would make purchasing the motion controller optional.
Oakley makes a great anti fog solution that works amazing!
Just ordered some going to give it a go
@@OriginaldoBo I'm new to the fpv world but it worked insanely good on my oculus. First FPV will be the Avata and I'm excited. Thanks for the knowledge man, it's been super helpful on making my choice
Great vid. One thing I don’t like about it is that I crashed into a tree and it lifted up into the air and got stuck into the tree and flipped over and shut off. I’m still trying to find it in the tree. It’s like five Georgia trees merge together. Since it shut off none of the locating devices will work. Luckily I still have the video and kind a have idea of where it is. Still searching 🙏🏻
Cant wait for more real estate avata content!
PERFRCT REVIEW! NAILED IT
I really appreciate your non bias. So many pilots are DJI haters. But I disagree with motion controller. this is for indoor flights or close range outdoors. The motion controller is perfect for this.
I agree price wise as a digital whoop, I think it is price competitive. My only complaint is I ordered the drone, with insurance and fly more kit and the controller 2 is out of stock, feel like DJI is trying to force us to purchase the single hand hand controller on you. I have a drone I cant fly until they resolve the issue,
Great review , finally someone compare it with a cinewhoop as it should be.👏👌
THanks! good points, I had all those in mind b4 buying.
BUT: coming from phantoms / mavics / airs my biggest disappointment was signal reach. yes i m in CE territory and i did try an unlock which did increase range. but compared to all the other gps models it's still bad. not sure why. maybe the FCC hack didnt also switch to 2.4 and its still at 5.8...
great info Ken i am mostly camera drone guy but couple years ago got into fpv had to learn how charge batteries and betaflight one i flew plenty was a whoop Pavo30 HD a pusher drone and ya never usually took it up over 100ft cause they are for more cinematic shots and not easy flyin manual really enjoyed Pavo but am getting Avata which i believe i will enjoy more and prob will end up tryin manual at some point great spot you have there nice footage
Thx 4 yr analysis
i think because for the price people expect more. I waited for this to drop and decided with the FPV. If you want speed go for the FPV, for cinematic go with a Mavic. I dont really see where this product fits.
The jury is still out with this drone. If anything, I'd used this indoors for business. A church, a gymnasium, how about an Amazon warehouse or better yet, an indoor football game...these examples can net a paycheck in the end.
All the avata talk is giving me the itch. Thanks for such real content though, makes my decision easy. Love the channel, cheers
Im a bit confused, I have seen Avata cinematic content in the dolomites and cliff diving and it looked fantastic.
And I am stoked at the idea of doing that sort of thing here in NZ, and I justifies that price.
If I was going to just fly at the local playground/ low level and close vicinity then analogue is good enough?
It can bomb down cliffs for sure is it amazing at that no lol
@LennartFPV If you don't mind me asking, why not?
@@numbskullfpv3403 one with the ducts it add an air restriction. Blown by wind more. Ducted drones always have this issue. Sometimes they might twitch a lil doing things
@@divingfalconfpv4602 Fascinating. I've noticed the twitch when being aggressive with the Avata, and wasn't aware that it was a characteristic of Cinewhoops. Thanks!
When dealing with whoops and dives, you must power out of the dive. Don't just pull up. If you just pull up/flat like you would with open props, you'll quite likely get the dreaded "yaw washout", and depending on what it felt like at the time, you might end up "on" that cliff.
Avata is fun, and useful camera tool - you demonstrate that so well. The noise is totally normal and fine, too! A lot of people just don't get the cinewhoop category. Oh, I don't have fogging, BUT I get light leak in the sides of my Goggles 2 on both sides... so I'm getting some ventilation. And, it has not been hot and muggy in Missouri where I am now that it's the first week of September. That's the only reason I assume that I haven't run into the fog issue... they really need to do something about that, wonder if they can crank the fan in there up with a firmware change? Don't know how much that would help given where it's apparently located...
Thanks for the informative video about the Avata. Still thinking of getting one.
Love it! I cant wait to get my hands on this bad boy!!!! Ya'll boys have fun in Vegas! Hit those tables homie haha!
The Avata seems like a great drone to me. If i would mention a con it would be the lightleaks and the discomfort wearing the new goggles.
Perfect way to give the info you are the only person to fly this drone the way you should
I.m in agreement with your assessment overall. A whoop is a different kind of drone, and the people who have not flown fpv and are not familiar with whoops would have some misconceptions about this drone. This little whoop has got it's place in the kit. My only complaint is the fogging issue with the goggles, as that's something that I hope DJI can do a better job of addressing, otherwise it's not too bad. Thumbs up there Ken in a fair assessment.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt this the first of its kind in the market? People should really understand what it's about first before expecting that it would have everything they'd want in their custom made fpvs. Thanks for clearing this up.
Awesome update and review, you reconfirm every reason why I purchased this.
I get it….I fly some other fpv drones such as geprc cinelog…I ordered my avata and I can’t wait to get this In hand waiting for it to ship!!!!
I'm not sure "Calling out" philly drone life is the right terminology, he is simply giving his opinion , as are you, calling out suggests he is doing something wrong.
Excellent low level and intricate flying, thanks for the video. 👍
Dude come on if he hasn't learned by now, he's not going to grow up don't be so quick to protect him.
So here’s my deal with Philly, I like Mike I do. However the definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results.
Great info.. My avatar is arriving next week. I purchased the Pro View Combo. I'm wondering if it will arrive with the RC. I seen other unboxing videos saying it comes with the rc
I still wish DJI would make some goggle compatible with the Mini 3!
That’ll be nice but I think latency would be a big issue
I totally agree with your assessment. I've embraced its indoor and low level performance. It's growing on me. But hate the goggles.
Please could you elaborate a little more on why tha Avata is unstable at higher altitudes. Do you just mean smoothness of flying,and transitions of manoeuvres.
12 minutes is awesome 👌
Thanks for the video! I’m a newbie droner. Just purchased a used Mavic air 2 about 3 weeks ago. Came complete with DJI bag 3 batteries, lenses, remote. I’ve got bitten by the rc bug now. Now I want a feeling of a FPV. The Avata seems like what i would like to begin with. I’m considering going directly thru DJI and purchasing a complete kit with 2 extra batteries. Think that’s a good choice??
100% right... and it is a good price point compared to other whoops...
So basically this cinewhoop costs about 650 euro's, it is GPS locked, you have to buy the RC seperately and you can throw the motion controller in the bin, you cant use this camera on other drones, it only works with the DJI RC, it is not customizable (settings or build), you can only do basic repairs on it,... It's basically Iphone compared to android. I don't see how this is a good choice for anyone but a complete beginner that has no gear.
The complete kit is very expensive, and you dont even get a RC as standard. I really don't get all the hype.
Tell me a lipo that flies for 11-14 minutes in acro and weighs less that a 1300 Tattu 4.0 I’ll wait.
You get what you pay for end of story.
You're correct on everything w the avata. It's sounds very different from a mavic pro , as far as height and battery life. Although I don't know much about whoops but u know more about it. So that being said, I'll probably wait till price drops by Christmas. Thank you for the info.🙂
I agree, not using it for high altitude or as a chase plane at my local RC club, my orginal FPVs will continueto be used. But am planning to use the hell out of it for exploring and low altitude photography. My only complaint is the goggles, excellent display, but pinches my nose and it gets warm here in NW Florida. Excellent video!😎👍
A hammer is fantastic at pounding nails but pretty garbage at screwing in a screw.
Bought it because of your reviews and specifically because of your real estate fly through BTS. (I do real estate photography as well and you literally put money in my pocket! Absolutely love it and know that high altitude establishing shots are still for my Mavic and phantom. This gave me a tool for work and a wicked tool for recreation.
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Thank you for continuing to make videos and release content! Your channel is great. I agree that people are using the Avata in all kinds of ways it wasn't designed for. My question is, in the videos you share from the Avata, the field of view does not look as distorted (fisheye) compared to many others. Is that because you are shooting at a narrower field of view (normal vs. wide vs. ultra wide), or because the stabilization crops away the more distorted areas, or a combination of both? I can't seem to find a good video that shows how much quality hit you take when switching between modes, but I also don't like the curved ultra wide look I see in so many other videos. Thanks for any insight you can provide!
Great video I am loving it, for some reason I never thought of taking a cinewoop up high. Your stick in the bag at least that where mine was.
I love my Torvol bag. Best drone bag on the market.
It’s so good!
lol i didnt realize til the very end of the video who you were, as i just purchased the ribbed riders from you on etsy a couple days ago. Hey quick question, what camera were you using to film your commentary / when you were walking? Great vid and i agree with just about all you covered.
Sony A7iv and the 17-28 Tamron lens
Ha. Pretty sure I left a comment on Billy's review about how high he was flying and requesting more speed. But everyone has their thing. If he was flying lower, the max speed of that motion controller is plenty. I have actually taken my Avata to 350ft once. Just wanted to see how high it was. Don't have GPS on any of my other quads, so didn't really have a feel for how high I could get legally. But otherwise, I fly on the deck. It's always been my style. Kinda like pod racing.
It is noisy. I knew that going in. I have the 95x, which is basically the same props at like a third of the weight. Weight equals noise unless your props are huge. But this drone checks some other boxes for me, so I'm able to overlook the noise. For those few times people have wanted a drone shot from me, I now can do it somewhat better than my other fpv drones could do since this has a gimbal. And I always kinda wanted the GPS NAV and RTH capabilities. Also, the motion controller gives opportunity to let others try it out. And of course,... the new goggles. That is 90% of my desire to get this drone. Like you said, we need to figure out the fogging. I doubt we can rely on DJI to fix that.
True that...
Fly the minis with prop guards and you'll know how the Avata feels in the wind =p. It doesn't do well in higher winds, and neither would a mini with prop guards on. It's obviously noisier than a camera drone but sort of middling for an FPV drone for sure.
lol the ending, +1 for the motion controller
Damn Ken you let the cat out of the bag. Now your wife knows how much everyone of those little drones you have costs. 😁
Awsome vid! Thnx for this. I want to get that bag and guards aswell. Can I get links pls🙏?
Here in Chile and other countries doesn't had any other option that buy the bundle with the motion controller.... till now.
Just wait to see the Avata No RC option
I'm just sad that they did not make an under 250g cinewoop. It doubles or triples the price of flying due to the cost of getting a license, which is no longer worth it.
Well if that ain’t super back peddling…nothings is.
I cannot believe I was dumb , again. I must want to be fooled. It’s always the same, the first week it’s coming up roses . Then I buy one and then the videos role out with the actual reality . Fogging , really, diopters useless, some of the same stick errors that were around a year ago…
Breaks my heart. The picture in the goggles are stunning …but you can’t focus through the optics to see it …
I have to buy mine :(
The goggles I’ve talked about the fogging in humidity. Spoke about it at great length with Mads tech.. calm your jets
Great perspective on the Avata ken. 👊🏻
Can you swap to the 3 blade props or does it have to be the origint DJI props? Is it 3" or 3.5" prop size?
I'm really liking this drone, I'm just trying to justify if I will actually use it or not. But honestly, price, value, what it can offer is all perfect. £499 for the drone, battery and charger is cheap for what you get... the GoPro alone isnt far off that. Just having to buy the controller and the extra batteries being £110 each is a bummer.
There is a charger that does 4 batts, takes me about an hour to charge 4 of them.
What mode are you flying this in? To get this kind of footage what would you advise is the best mode to be in?
If you don't use the motion controller you likely haven't given head tracking a shot. That's how you get motion controller orbits focused on the subject.
Would you ever go on vacation to Puerto Rico and take awesome vids with the avata and M3?
Wait....so it's not a bando basher?!
😉
You're killing it with the Avata content, QUALITY content as well! 👍
What bag was that iv been looking for good size bag 2 carry the avata and mini 3 pro with a few batteries.
question... what would you prefer. really hot out. or -45 F/C °
Hi, Kenny. Where did you get the rubber bumper baby bumpers from for your Avata?
Enjoy your video's good sir!
I make them they are on www.Originaldobostore.com
maybe bring a neck fan, prbly would help cooling the face
You know I have one I always forget to use it lol
Very thoughtful insight as always Ken....Thanks for the info and thoughts
Thanks Matt
@@OriginaldoBo Your welcome. We appreciate you and the blatant honesty
Flying low and through trees is great when you can rely on the increased penetration of FCC mode. For us over the pond that have to make due with CE only it’s shocking when going behind anything… Don’t even think of entering a building or going behind some rebar.
@OriginaldoBo The reply above is a scam. You might want to delete it 👍🏻
Lol did you find your stick???! 😅
Do you think they will come out with a 5.4k version? Great drone! But I’m thinking they might pull a Air 2S on us.
Wowzers
New follower. Great content, evenly presented with what is, and is not. Its a tool in a tool box.
Nice video!! Please tell me in which mode you flew? P.S. I have ordered the Avata!!!
Ken I think I’ve asked you this before and did not get a reply. How do you takeoff with that drone and be in manual mode from the get-go. I had the same issue when I had the potato. The only way to get it in the manual was to do the little thing you had to do like with centering in the sticks. I plan on ordering one as soon as I can find a controller as I already have the goggles I don’t need anything else. Thank you for all of your videos I learned so much every time
I have it set on my switch to go manual first
do you think they should of offered a lightweight battery?
a 1000mah 4s... would save 150g...
be a lot quieter.. better performance..
but 5-7 min flight time instead of 12-14...
have you tested with standard Lipos?
People need to stop with the weight shit it’s perfectly fine at it’s current weight of 416 it’s take off is less than a Slammed Squirt with a 1050 6S and hero bones.