I'm impressed that you laid out so much interesting and interrelated information in under sixteen minutes! Never boring or confusing, always clear, concise and entertaining!
The amount of comments that are left by people who obviously haven't watched the video is mindblowing "THE STONES DIDN'T COME FROM THE ISLAND OF IRELAND" like dude, just watch the fuckin video, I promise you you'll go "oooooooooooooooooh"
Merlin is said to be a title and status rather than an individual. West Wales was colonised by Gaelic tribes ,Preselli was Irish to the dark age Brits.
I find it so interesting that Giants Dance/ Stone henge was said to have been brought by Giants from Africa. This seems reminiscent of the idea of an ancient transnational civilisation of humans who were more advanced than we knew of.
Depending on when that's said to have happened it's not very out there. Boats exist. It would have been not trivial, but very doable for any ancient people with decently sized boats and pulleys like for example the Roman Empire to take it from africa to england if it was in fact from there.
Yeah they would of had to quarry the stone in Britain transport to Africa then transport back, doesn't make much sense. However, being built by people who travelled from Africa and had the knowledge/motivation to build it would make a lot more sense imo
Black people did not build stone henge. Give me one bit of proof of what you are saying. King Arthur and Merlin are stories from Britain around 400 AD stone henge is thousands of years old so no merlin did not steal stonehenge from the Irish, but Ireland did steal st Patrick from the English ( he was an English slave taken to Ireland) what next? Shaka Zulu and his clan built the colosium, the great wall of china was built by black people who couldn't build sea worthy boats who flew in the planes they invented and built the wall for the stupid stupid Chinese. Isn't history fascinating
The article I read said it was Scottish stones. I feel a possible explanation is that the stones themselves are erratics moved by glaciation. However, I haven't read the full article.
I just recently saw this article too! Apparently *one* of the bluestones -- the largest one, known as the altar stone -- came from Scotland: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/14/stonehenge-megalith-came-from-scotland-not-wales-jaw-dropping-study-finds?CMP=share_btn_url
@@debbiegilmour6171 pretty obvious that the site of Stonehenge represented and was important to all the tribes then in Britain, in what we call now England, Wales and Scotland, and maybe even Ireland too. I know that some human bones/ teeth found there were subject to dendrology and the strontium levels meant the owner could only have come from the Llanelli area of south Wales. Given most of the blue stones also came from there and there is now speculation that the original site of Stonehenge was in West Wales before the stones were moved,it looks as if there must have been real cooperation between the tribes in what we now call Wales and those in what we now call England, probably the same common Brythonic language too, the forerunner of modern Welsh, also called Brythonic Cymric.
@@highlandoutsider Ice sheets literally covered all of Scotland and extended as far south as Cornwall. It is quite conceivable that the ice sheets carried many large boulders southwards to be dropped on the ground as the ice cap retreated.
@@debbiegilmour6171 I'm well versed in the topic and while I don't deny that it's fisable, that theory was put forward to explain how the blue stones got from Wales but there is no supporting evidence to suggest that is what happened, like I said, good idea but no dice it would seam, and now with the alter stone coming from the north of Scotland that would require a separate, every selective, glacier meeting at that point at right angles.
And in the past couple of weeks, geologists have published that the "Altar Stone" of Stonehenge matches most closely with the geology of the northern tip of Scotland - The Orkneys. The latter archipelago is the location of Britain's earliest megalithic circles, so the conjecture is that the builders of Stonehenge transported THAT stone to Wiltshire to give Stonehenge some sort of mystic continuity with the henges in "The Bloody Orkneys". BTW, there are other examples of folk-memories being retained for thousands of years: In British Columbia, Canada, the myths of origin of two tribes recall vulcanism and a lake being reshaped by a landslide. The description is accurate, but the event was over 7,000 years ago. In Australia, a tale of the Aboriginal Dream-Time accurately describes landforms inundated by the sea which occured over 10,000 years ago. In Wales, there is also the route of King Arthur's hunt for the Irish boar/king, Twrch Troeth, in "How Cilhwch won Olwen" in Mabinogion. One scholar noted that placenames along the route (that can be found) which are pig-related and😅 match the Goidelic/Brythonic Linguistic Boundary in South Wales. The route peters-out at the boundary with English-speaking Herefordshire (where it ought surely to have included Moccas), and there is no detail until the boar dives into the Severn to swim over to Kernow. Now, Kernow once extended to Aust - opposite which, near the Welsh shore, is a deep in the estuary marked on charts as "Pig Hole". Is that a folk-memory in English of the Eastern extent of a Brythonic-speaking kingdom corresponding to Gwent? Well, it is at the modern Welsh border.
Recent study of Stonehenge shows that the "Altar Stone" was transported from nort-east Scotland and 'the 'Bluestones' were not only transported from Wales but at least one of them was pulled up from an earlier stone circle. The orientation of the stones with astronomical 'orientations' shows it was probably used for healing purposes, A hospital mixed with a cathedral and a town hall, so to speak. Analysis of the cremated bone found in the pits around the stones shows the people came from a wide area in Britain. So, it looks like Geoffrey may have got his details wrong but got more than an inkling of what Stonehenge was for! As the physicist JBS Haldane put it, "The Universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine!"
Great ideas! And actually I have discussed the lore surrounding the Red Hand of Ulster in an earlier video: th-cam.com/video/aZSxRfbyuak/w-d-xo.html&si=Tx1V5-XroMdCsRF7
How can radiocarbon dating show that Stonehenge was constructed in 3000BC? Sure, you could get soil layers that show habitation, or burials from that long ago, but how do you know the stones were placed there from that date?
Yup that seems to be the case (might need to do a part 2 with the new info): www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/14/stonehenge-megalith-came-from-scotland-not-wales-jaw-dropping-study-finds?CMP=share_btn_url
Here's an Irish myth all right. How are they supposed to have got the stones across the sea, helicopter? Recall that Britain, not Ireland, was the centre of Druidic culture.
There is no "centre of druidic culture," because there is no unified druidic culture. Druids existed in ireland, Britain and France and Northern Spain, while these places were all regarded as "celtic" at the time they had different cultures and law structures, they just had some shared cultural aspects, much like many of the Mediterranean countries have similar cultures.
Geographically, Ireland is one of the British Isles, the other large island of the archipelago being Britain; Politically, Eire is not part of the United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland (the UK for short), having achieved independence in 1920. The UK includes England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, which have various degrees of legislative and governmental autonomy. The Isle of Man and The Bailiwicks of Jersey and Guernsey are Criwn Dependencies of the British Isles but not in the UK, having independent Governments. There are unique arrangements for administration and legislature of each of the British Overseas Territories because some are sparsely populated, are extremely remote, or have no permanent inhabitants: Anguilla Bermuda British Antarctic Territory British Indian Ocean Territory British Virgin Islands Cayman Islands The Falkland Islands Gibraltar Montserrat Pitcairn Islands St Helena, Ascension Island, and Tristan da Cunha South Georgia and the South Sandwich islands The Turks and Caicos Islands. Commonwealth realms are 14 sovereign states within the Commonwealth that have Charles III as monarch and ceremonial head of state. They are not ruled by the UK. The King is also Head of the Commonwealth, a voluntary association of 56 independent countries which includes many republics and the 15 Realms (including the UK) mentioned above.
Whats up with the construction photos from the 1930 1940s? The construction photos make it seem like the place is a modern tourist attraction, and not an ancient anything at all.
One way to tell if Stonehenge was in Briton before Aurelius is to see if Romans ever wrote about Stonehenge being in Brition. Romans did colonise Briton for a few hundred years before Aurelius so they deifnatley would have noticed and written something about it. But is there any such writing?
@@cainebarrettduggan5337 that’s weirdly late isn’t it! I’d say that’s consistent with the recent build theory. The Roman’s would definitely have mentioned it
@@umwha I'm really not sure about that for two reasons 1. A metric shitton of literature just gets lost to the sands of time 2. Search up "roman objects at stonehenge"
I talk about Brocéliande in my video on Celtic sacred trees! Check it out here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/9m0iiEVL-TY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Yx9r1uMlb3UQE-nn
Its been proven that at least some events from the Neolithic were vaguely recalled millenia later, like the legend of a brother and a sister sleeping together at Newgrange.
“It’s been proven that at least some events from the Neolithic were vaguely recalled”…. How can something “proven” be vague? Then you cite a “legend” … What are you trying to say? Your sentence is incoherent.
So the Deisi from Waterford. Could they be the same people known as the Dece Angli of north west Wales ? Pronounced DC as in Washington DC ('Angli' being the Roman designation for where they lived in north west corner). The very same people the Romans sent a legion to suppress/annihilate (?) in the 1st century ?
That’s silly. Stonehenge has been where it is for thousands of years and just because some evidence suggests that the stones may have originated from Wales you want to move them?
I believe with all the historical evidence that this may be close to fact. At the very least, a group of humans have systematically removed history from all other groups. The hard part now is who is the group that wants global domination?
Even the Saxons were nearly wiped out after the Norman invasion after 1066 the Normans went on a rampage killing Saxons their isn't much Saxon blood left in Britain I mea pure Saxon DNA
For goodness sake, if you're going to call the channel 'Irish Myths' at least have the decency to learn how to pronounce Irish words, then Scottish (Gaelic) words, then Welsh (Cymric) words, otherwise I'm going to un-subscribe ... even if the content is engaging.
There were no English then, nor Irish for that matter. Both what is now Ireland and England were populated by many different ancient tribes. The Romans knew these islands as Britain, one larger, greater in size. Both populations had very similar stone structures and Tombs. No doubt they fought each other then 🤷🏻♂️.
The big stones comes from the northern part of Salisbury plain the blue stones come from wales & the alter stone comes from Scotland, Stonehenge was built 1000's of years b4 the collapse of the Roman empire the time in which Merlin supposedly lived.
I'm impressed that you laid out so much interesting and interrelated information in under sixteen minutes! Never boring or confusing, always clear, concise and entertaining!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! (And thank you so much for taking the time to post this thoughtful comment!)
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The amount of comments that are left by people who obviously haven't watched the video is mindblowing
"THE STONES DIDN'T COME FROM THE ISLAND OF IRELAND" like dude, just watch the fuckin video, I promise you you'll go "oooooooooooooooooh"
Makes my green heart beat to see our history been carried forward! True son of Éireann 💚Mo chara!
Another engaging video on a fascinating topic, what a winding yet coherent tale you tell :)
Thank you so much! Had a lot of fun researching/writing this one
Well done man. Thank you. Very thorough I just watched your Samhain episode awesome work ty ty ty
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words 🙏
Another excellent video!
Thanks!
Merlin is said to be a title and status rather than an individual. West Wales was colonised by Gaelic tribes ,Preselli was Irish to the dark age Brits.
The dark age came later.
Great channel!
Thanks!
I find it so interesting that Giants Dance/ Stone henge was said to have been brought by Giants from Africa. This seems reminiscent of the idea of an ancient transnational civilisation of humans who were more advanced than we knew of.
Depending on when that's said to have happened it's not very out there. Boats exist. It would have been not trivial, but very doable for any ancient people with decently sized boats and pulleys like for example the Roman Empire to take it from africa to england if it was in fact from there.
@@tidalgruntGeology says otherwise?
The Lay of the Lands and the Dan's
Yeah they would of had to quarry the stone in Britain transport to Africa then transport back, doesn't make much sense. However, being built by people who travelled from Africa and had the knowledge/motivation to build it would make a lot more sense imo
Black people did not build stone henge. Give me one bit of proof of what you are saying. King Arthur and Merlin are stories from Britain around 400 AD stone henge is thousands of years old so no merlin did not steal stonehenge from the Irish, but Ireland did steal st Patrick from the English ( he was an English slave taken to Ireland) what next? Shaka Zulu and his clan built the colosium, the great wall of china was built by black people who couldn't build sea worthy boats who flew in the planes they invented and built the wall for the stupid stupid Chinese. Isn't history fascinating
The article I read said it was Scottish stones.
I feel a possible explanation is that the stones themselves are erratics moved by glaciation. However, I haven't read the full article.
I just recently saw this article too! Apparently *one* of the bluestones -- the largest one, known as the altar stone -- came from Scotland: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/14/stonehenge-megalith-came-from-scotland-not-wales-jaw-dropping-study-finds?CMP=share_btn_url
The glacial erratic idea has been thrown out too, was a nice idea but nothing to back it up
@@debbiegilmour6171 pretty obvious that the site of Stonehenge represented and was important to all the tribes then in Britain, in what we call now England, Wales and Scotland, and maybe even Ireland too. I know that some human bones/ teeth found there were subject to dendrology and the strontium levels meant the owner could only have come from the Llanelli area of south Wales. Given most of the blue stones also came from there and there is now speculation that the original site of Stonehenge was in West Wales before the stones were moved,it looks as if there must have been real cooperation between the tribes in what we now call Wales and those in what we now call England, probably the same common Brythonic language too, the forerunner of modern Welsh, also called Brythonic Cymric.
@@highlandoutsider Ice sheets literally covered all of Scotland and extended as far south as Cornwall. It is quite conceivable that the ice sheets carried many large boulders southwards to be dropped on the ground as the ice cap retreated.
@@debbiegilmour6171 I'm well versed in the topic and while I don't deny that it's fisable, that theory was put forward to explain how the blue stones got from Wales but there is no supporting evidence to suggest that is what happened, like I said, good idea but no dice it would seam, and now with the alter stone coming from the north of Scotland that would require a separate, every selective, glacier meeting at that point at right angles.
And in the past couple of weeks, geologists have published that the "Altar Stone" of Stonehenge matches most closely with the geology of the northern tip of Scotland - The Orkneys. The latter archipelago is the location of Britain's earliest megalithic circles, so the conjecture is that the builders of Stonehenge transported THAT stone to Wiltshire to give Stonehenge some sort of mystic continuity with the henges in "The Bloody Orkneys".
BTW, there are other examples of folk-memories being retained for thousands of years:
In British Columbia, Canada, the myths of origin of two tribes recall vulcanism and a lake being reshaped by a landslide. The description is accurate, but the event was over 7,000 years ago.
In Australia, a tale of the Aboriginal Dream-Time accurately describes landforms inundated by the sea which occured over 10,000 years ago.
In Wales, there is also the route of King Arthur's hunt for the Irish boar/king, Twrch Troeth, in "How Cilhwch won Olwen" in Mabinogion. One scholar noted that placenames along the route (that can be found) which are pig-related and😅 match the Goidelic/Brythonic Linguistic Boundary in South Wales. The route peters-out at the boundary with English-speaking Herefordshire (where it ought surely to have included Moccas), and there is no detail until the boar dives into the Severn to swim over to Kernow. Now, Kernow once extended to Aust - opposite which, near the Welsh shore, is a deep in the estuary marked on charts as "Pig Hole". Is that a folk-memory in English of the Eastern extent of a Brythonic-speaking kingdom corresponding to Gwent? Well, it is at the modern Welsh border.
Recent study of Stonehenge shows that the "Altar Stone" was transported from nort-east Scotland and 'the 'Bluestones' were not only transported from Wales but at least one of them was pulled up from an earlier stone circle. The orientation of the stones with astronomical 'orientations' shows it was probably used for healing purposes, A hospital mixed with a cathedral and a town hall, so to speak. Analysis of the cremated bone found in the pits around the stones shows the people came from a wide area in Britain.
So, it looks like Geoffrey may have got his details wrong but got more than an inkling of what Stonehenge was for!
As the physicist JBS Haldane put it, "The Universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine!"
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. Very nice telling of early modern history
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Incredible video
Thanks!
Very interesting
It would be good to see a video explaining the Red hand of ulster and how the Gaels could infact be the tribe of Judah
Great ideas! And actually I have discussed the lore surrounding the Red Hand of Ulster in an earlier video: th-cam.com/video/aZSxRfbyuak/w-d-xo.html&si=Tx1V5-XroMdCsRF7
How can radiocarbon dating show that Stonehenge was constructed in 3000BC? Sure, you could get soil layers that show habitation, or burials from that long ago, but how do you know the stones were placed there from that date?
I believe it comes from dating organic material underneath the stones, so it's really best guess, and using an unreliable method at that
And was the altar stone Scottish, as was argued in a Nature article from 2024?
Yup that seems to be the case (might need to do a part 2 with the new info): www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/14/stonehenge-megalith-came-from-scotland-not-wales-jaw-dropping-study-finds?CMP=share_btn_url
I didn't expect a mention of Uisneach 😅 it's only up the road from my house
I hope I pronounced it correctly 😬
3:36 bro thats a crane
Here's an Irish myth all right. How are they supposed to have got the stones across the sea, helicopter?
Recall that Britain, not Ireland, was the centre of Druidic culture.
There is no "centre of druidic culture," because there is no unified druidic culture. Druids existed in ireland, Britain and France and Northern Spain, while these places were all regarded as "celtic" at the time they had different cultures and law structures, they just had some shared cultural aspects, much like many of the Mediterranean countries have similar cultures.
Geographically, Ireland is one of the British Isles, the other large island of the archipelago being Britain;
Politically, Eire is not part of the United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland (the UK for short), having achieved independence in 1920. The UK includes England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, which have various degrees of legislative and governmental autonomy.
The Isle of Man and The Bailiwicks of Jersey and Guernsey are Criwn Dependencies of the British Isles but not in the UK, having independent Governments.
There are unique arrangements for administration and legislature of each of the British Overseas Territories because some are sparsely populated, are extremely remote, or have no permanent inhabitants:
Anguilla
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
The Falkland Islands
Gibraltar
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
St Helena, Ascension Island, and Tristan da Cunha
South Georgia and the South Sandwich islands
The Turks and Caicos Islands.
Commonwealth realms are 14 sovereign states within the Commonwealth that have Charles III as monarch and ceremonial head of state. They are not ruled by the UK. The King is also Head of the Commonwealth, a voluntary association of 56 independent countries which includes many republics and the 15 Realms (including the UK) mentioned above.
Whats up with the construction photos from the 1930 1940s? The construction photos make it seem like the place is a modern tourist attraction, and not an ancient anything at all.
Paintings and drawings by John Constable show it as a pretty wrecked site, as you say, reconstructed in the 20th century.
One way to tell if Stonehenge was in Briton before Aurelius is to see if Romans ever wrote about Stonehenge being in Brition. Romans did colonise Briton for a few hundred years before Aurelius so they deifnatley would have noticed and written something about it. But is there any such writing?
I did a bit of digging and it looks like the first mention of Stonehenge is by a bishop in 1130
@@cainebarrettduggan5337 that’s weirdly late isn’t it! I’d say that’s consistent with the recent build theory. The Roman’s would definitely have mentioned it
Is this episcopal reference about the building of a nearby cathedral with some of the henge stonework! ?😊@@cainebarrettduggan5337
@@cainebarrettduggan5337Will you please share this episcopal notice in detail? Thank you 😊
@@umwha I'm really not sure about that for two reasons
1. A metric shitton of literature just gets lost to the sands of time
2. Search up "roman objects at stonehenge"
So what about the African trace?!😊 🍀
Meanwhile Brocéliande forest is in France. There are Arthur I and Arthur II graves in Wales... it's a mess
I talk about Brocéliande in my video on Celtic sacred trees! Check it out here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/9m0iiEVL-TY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Yx9r1uMlb3UQE-nn
Its been proven that at least some events from the Neolithic were vaguely recalled millenia later, like the legend of a brother and a sister sleeping together at Newgrange.
“It’s been proven that at least some events from the Neolithic were vaguely recalled”…. How can something “proven” be vague? Then you cite a “legend” … What are you trying to say? Your sentence is incoherent.
Events from the Neolithic age were 'proven'?
@@earthsmoke9450 Local legends often have roots going back thousands of years
@@debbiegilmour6171 Indeed they do. Although I have no idea why you felt the need to state the obvious.
Can you do video about Merlin
So the Deisi from Waterford. Could they be the same people known as the Dece Angli of north west Wales ? Pronounced DC as in Washington DC ('Angli' being the Roman designation for where they lived in north west corner). The very same people the Romans sent a legion to suppress/annihilate (?) in the 1st century ?
Merlin = Magi from the Mer or Mere-Linn/Lynn, Sea Pool/Marsh perhaps?
Stone hedge has recently been identified as coming from a quarry in Scotland!
Only the alter stone
Fascinating 😊😊😊🐦🔥❤️🔥💜
And the Irish stole the Ring of Kerry from England.
Do they want it back?
Britain has like 1000 stone circles. They do not come from Ireland.
And by "coasts of Africa" he means the Richat Structure! ;)
Well the stones are from Wales (Bluestones) England (Sarsens) and NE Scotland (The Altar Stone) so.....No.
Well within the realm of possibility
Finsceal micheart
Ambrosius Aurelianus was defiantly merlin I assure you lol
Well, it must be returned to the Irish.
Isn’t one stone from Scotland?
Recent news?
I doubt they’d DARE nick from there 😂
If they came from a ring in Wales then they should put it back there. It's still in the UK and they can still call it Stonehenge.
That’s silly. Stonehenge has been where it is for thousands of years and just because some evidence suggests that the stones may have originated from Wales you want to move them?
No he didn't. 😂 That would be Aliens.
No, but a tribe from Ireland moved to Wales, building monuments along the way, and eventually built Stonehenge.
No they didn't.
Neolithic tribes moved east to west.
Merlin is story get lost. The saxons wiped the UK early history and mythology. No wonder they tried to do the same to most of the world
I believe with all the historical evidence that this may be close to fact.
At the very least, a group of humans have systematically removed history from all other groups. The hard part now is who is the group that wants global domination?
Even the Saxons were nearly wiped out after the Norman invasion after 1066 the Normans went on a rampage killing Saxons their isn't much Saxon blood left in Britain I mea pure Saxon DNA
imagine u think u know
sic
This lays to rest the false claim that folk tales, spread by word of mouth, can only last three generations.
No. He didn’t. Next vid.
Fair enough. Next vid will be about Iolo Morganwg. Stay tuned...
No.😊
Also Irish myth with a yankie robots accent good job boy
For goodness sake, if you're going to call the channel 'Irish Myths' at least have the decency to learn how to pronounce Irish words, then Scottish (Gaelic) words, then Welsh (Cymric) words, otherwise I'm going to un-subscribe ... even if the content is engaging.
There were no English then, nor Irish for that matter. Both what is now Ireland and England were populated by many different ancient tribes. The Romans knew these islands as Britain, one larger, greater in size. Both populations had very similar stone structures and Tombs. No doubt they fought each other then 🤷🏻♂️.
5000 years ago it was a set of islands no England Ireland Scotland or wales. They were all Celtic people.
No “Celtic” people 5000 years ago… this is myth… myth is not history..
@@johnkirke8356alright celts if you prefer.
The big stones comes from the northern part of Salisbury plain the blue stones come from wales & the alter stone comes from Scotland, Stonehenge was built 1000's of years b4 the collapse of the Roman empire the time in which Merlin supposedly lived.
So sick of irish paving over welsh history
If only I knew the Gaelic equivalent of holy crap