I genuinely had to Google who Morgan Wallen is. Arctic Monkeys have more followers than him because the rest of the world doesn't care that much about Country music.
As a British guy, who does keep up to date with country music as well, very very very few people will know who Morgan Wallen is in the UK. If they do, they only know 1 song. Arctic monkeys first album was so raw and grounded, it felt like the rise of oasis again. But then they drastically changed after the second album that it became generic. Fame and fortune definitely went to their heads IMHO
With Arctic Monkies you are using a video of the later stuff (from the 2010s I think). Like, Favourite Worst Nightmare is an incredible album and it does not sound like a car commercial. It’s has so much energy.
The "car commercial" sound only applies to their most famous album AM. Even their 2 most recent albums, while flawed, barely fit into the "rock" category.
I was screaming internally at the whole Arctic Monkeys discourse. I'm not a fan of their later stuff at all, but their first 2 albums are both insanely good.
@@Pahhulook, the man needs to knock out these low effort content churn vids in short order, you really expect him to do much research, like more than a cursory flick through whatever he can recall off the top of his head to confirm whatever he half remembers?
Muse is one of those bands that's HUGE in Europe to the point where non-rock fans like Muse over there. 14 million monthly listeners on Spodify seems low considering how big they are over there.
th-cam.com/video/Nbzsv_E0lMk/w-d-xo.html This concert by them in 2007 truly is one of those ones that make you wish you can go back in time and attend it UNREAL
Indeed kinda surprised they are so far behind Arctic Monkeys, honestly expected Muse to be the bigger one. But then again, I feel Muse nowadays mostly thrives as a live band, and even most fans don't really care that much about their newer stuff. Seen them 5 times now, and they always deliver....though mostly with their older songs.
I truly believe that in Finnverse there is Evil Finn traveling across Europe, spending all his money on local festivals, reading NME and hating Crazy Town.
Went to see them last year and I was amazed at how many 16 year Olds were there when i found them at that age 20 years ago. And of course they ruined the show as I had to watch the concert through everyone's phones
Yeah I hard disagree with him, I hate emo/screamo shit and like Tool but here I am anyway watching his videos because they're entertaining af. But he was right that the Killers are far better than most of these other indie radio 2000 bands
@@andrzejnowak4315 Kyuss is 90s, but QOTSA, while started in the 90's is far more associated with 00's. Most people know them from Songs for the Deaf and on. In fact most of these bands on this list started in the 90s
@@andrzejnowak4315 QOTSA didn't start to get any traction until 2000 and didn't get big until 2002, so I would definitely consider them a 2000's band.
I know Arctic Monkeys blew up with the AM album, but I think at least half of their fans are still hardcore lovers of their first two albums. Personally, I think of their first 2 albums as being their "sound" that helped them become popular in the first place. AM just took them to another level.
As someone who’s a Gen Z (I’m 18) and discovered them throughout the last two years, I gotta say their first three albums are really good and their two latest ones, especially The Car. I just love that jazzy chill sound of that album. AM is a good album but some songs, especially I Wanna Be Yours, are not necessarily overrated but really overplayed among my generation…
The first two Arctic Monkeys albums were exhilarating when they came out at the time, they just appeared on the scene playing this fast, unique at the time kind of rock that seemed so refreshing and relatable to young British people at the time. They very quickly started playing the boring mall music you're listening to here, but man... Those first two albums. So exciting at the time.
When I was 15 I heard the first couple of seconds of I bet you look good on the dance floor, and I immediately had to find the whole song. The AM album has classics but I didn't listen to it nearly as much.
@@beingprovidence As much as I love most of their output, Danger Mouse did them a huge disservice service with watering down their production on the later albums imo Edit: Meant to say disservice in my original comment. The rawness of their sound is what ultimately drew me into their music
1000 percent. sure if you just choose the one song they floged the fuck out of you have a point and i havent got into as much of their stuff since el camino which was the first album i didnt absolutely love. everything up t and including Brothers is fantastic
Not only do the Killers have some awesome songs, but for my friends and I they are the perfect intersection of all our music tastes . Mr.Brightside is one of our favorite songs to listen to on the occasion that we all get to hangout.
Bloc Party had EDGE and heavy moments, their first 2-3 album are SOLID af their lyrics were more intelligent than most bands at the time and the drumming was insane
YESSSS!!!!!!! Silent Alarm absolutely knocked my block off!!!!and was one of the main albums that inspired me the most to take up the drums, second only to Queens of the Stone Age's Songs for the Deaf!!!!🤘🤟🤘
I think the concept is cool, like the virtual band thing, especially for the time, but to me I didn’t like the music (I will say I much prefer it to blur tho)
@@reptilemagicians same I didnt like them at first but they grew on me over time. I use to hate hearing them on TV or on the radio back in the 2000s then when I stopped hearing it now I miss it. It brings back memories of me and my friend in middle school listening to all this music
One of my favorite things about Fin is that he hates everything I loved growing up; Tool, SOAD, Gorillaz and I never heard anyone speak bad of them so it’s refreshing and challenges my beliefs.
Arctic monkeys blew up thanks to tumblr I think. I always equated their music to sad alt girls who weren’t into heavy music but wanted something heavier than typical indie music.
Id want it because I've always known they exist but have never listened to them (it's like RaTM I didn't hear any of their songs until I was in my 20s despite knowing the bands name most of my life)
You always talk about car commercial music but I remember thinking it was a sign that millennials are now in the workforce and are marketing professionals and opening the door for actual cool/interesting bands in mainstream commercials. It’s kinda a chicken/egg scenario. That style of music *became* synonymous with car commercials eventually, but at first it was a really cool hip change of pace to have these bands on a commercial
Really interesting to see how different american and european music cultures are. Arctic Monkeys are considered gods by about anyone who loves music where I live (Paris). There's maybe one album I don't really like that much (Suck it and see). All the others are S tier, the first one easy in my top 5 albums of all time. Their latest 2 records are also really interesting composition and production wise with a wide range of unusual instruments for indie music and hauntingly beautiful lyrics. A couple songs you might wanna check out to explore: When the sun goes down Brianstorm Pretty visitors Star treatment Body paint cheers Finn and thanks for the great content!!
Do not listen to this guy's opinon about alternative, indie or softer rock music he hates them. Of course they are very great. No one is F tier band in this video at least solid B or above.
I’m gonna be pissed if there’s a part 2 and Queens of the Stone Age is reduced to truck music. They’re very clearly quirky desert meth rock. S-tier stuff
Jack White was also on American Pickers where he asked them to find a mobile recording truck that was used to record live albums by Lynyrd Skyntrd, KISS, and Bob Seger, among others. Interesting episodes.
Arctic Monkeys are known internationally and Morgan Wallen isn’t, prob the reason for the play count difference. Personally, I never really got into anything from Arctic Monkeys past their first album.
Trash theory has a great video on how Artic Monkeys had to change their sound to appeal to a US audience. Their original music when they were popular in the UK vs what they make now is like night and day
Brothers by The Black Keys is nostalgic because it was one of the records my wife was listening to a lot when we first met, but I can’t disagree that it’s commercial music.
I was glad to see the love for Jack White, and that you knew about his upholstery fetish. That is part of why I love him. He all kinds of weird interests. The white stripes are simple but he is actually a very skilled musician and can play a huge variety of instruments. He’s a weirdo. And I love him for it.
@@chris-zd9sr Yeah afterall I was born in the early 2000s and most of this music was constantly on MTV and VH1 so I have a lot of love for it especially gorillaz, muse and the black keys
@@OTB2002 They were all the rage back then, along with Bloc Party. It was almost like Oasis and Blur. Grafitti and Apply Some Pressure are two of the greatest pop songs of all time.
I'd recommend anyone to try 'Whatever People I Say Am, That's What I'm Not', the first Arctic Monkeys album. It seemed to kickoff the Landfill Indie trend (I use that phrase with love) in the UK and yet somehow nothing else that made the charts afterwards sounded anything like it. The lyrics are always good for a laugh even if you don't like the music
Muse showed me that you can be proficient at an instrument and still write great songs. I'm used to "guitar" music being couched in the shred / endless guitar solo category. Big fan of most of their stuff from Origin of Symmetry through 2nd Law.
I’m 40 years old and I have just recently learned how big the Arctic Monkeys are. I don’t think I know a single person who listens to this band. I remember when they came out but had no idea they were this popular
Im also 40 and started to listen to AM circa 5 years ago. Their last staff is brilliant: The Car or TBH&C. They are the best and one of the last good "new" (18 years!) mainstream rock band.
Finn, if you’ve never talked about them whats your opinion on Kings of Leon? Also you mentioned the OC so I’m curious if you have an opinion on Phantom Planet
Death cab has a way of putting you in the imagery they are portraying in the music. One of my favorite bands still to this day. Also that Artic Monkeys B is solid, they had one really good Album and thats it. discography of good stuff too small to put them in upper tiers. here's a band that flew under the radar in the US for some reason that you'll hate ( i love it); Kasabian.
I knew why i liked you Finn. Death Cab are one of my all time favorite bands. Im not into a lot of indie rock, but Death Cab have just truly amazing music. There is very little they have put out that I havent loved.
Where is Linkin Park, System of a Down, Incubus, Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, Owl City, My Chemical Romance, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Ok Go, Good Charlotte, Thirty Seconds to Mars?
should definitely give some earlier Arctic Monkeys a listen. AM is incredibly tame. The first 2 albums at least had some energy. Brain dead take on Bloc Party. Silent Alarm is a 10/10 album.
As someone who makes a living in cover and wedding bands, if you DON'T play "Mr. Brightside" people will complain. Literally lost count of how many hundreds of times I've played that on stage 😂
Would love to see a part two so I can see your thoughts on The Shins and Kings Of Leon. Two of my favorite bands of all time from my childhood in the 2000s
Death cab for cutie fans, which songs should I listen to as someone whose never heard them? I'm typically a metal/pop punk fan for what it's worth if other songs correlate with that more
I'm not a mega fan, but I respect them and like a lot of their music. My recommendations would be 1. Soul Meets Body 2. I Will Follow You into the Dark 3. A Lack of Color 4. Stay Young, Go Dancing 5. Underneath the Sycamore 6. Home is a Fire 7. For What Reason 8. Crooked Teeth 9. TV Trays 10. This Charming Man and 11. The Sound of Settling. But there are a lot of really great songs in their catalog. They're not metal or pop/punk (though if you want a little more rough/raw indie rock out of them, check out their earliest albums) but I think if you are a person who appreciates good music regardless of genre, they could appeal to you when you are in the midst of your more chill, sad, and thoughtful moods.
Finn talking about why Muse is too in the middle of genres for him to like them was a great description as to why I think they are so great! They are all technically proficient, but it's not just about chops, they rock but they aren't so heavy that they only use screams and growls, and not so indie that they're indie... 🤔 I'm not sure exactly what that means lol For someone who often talks about how bands should try new things and not just sit in a stale genre, Finn refers to music that isn't keeping itself backed into a metaphorical genre corner as if it's a bad thing.
Totally inaccurate. I also love wildly experimental music like Reverorum Ib Malacht or Cecil Taylor. I just don't care for music that's only slightly experimental... it's not commited enough for me.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Most experiments yield almost nothing listenable. I am not hating, it is just the nature of experiments by definition. But artists that incorporate those few bits of experimental genius into catchy music or more viable formats deserve credit too. There is likely more variety in the land between Ariana Grande and Cecil Taylor than at those extremities
Damn, Finn out here straight up wrecking my music taste on a Monday 😔! Surprised you didn’t mention The Strokes. I know lots of copy cat bands followed their sound but I think they’re one of the heavy hitters of the early/ mid 2000’s in this genre. Would be curious to hear you talk about them!
I mean, if the people who make commercials were into brutal technical death metal, brutal technical death metal would probably sound like car commercial music
A few suggestion for future episodes in this series: Coldplay, The Detroit Cobras, Kasabian, Franz Ferdinand, The Electric Six, Hard-Fi, The Hot Hot Heat, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Razorlight, MGMT, The Coral, The Kaiser Chiefs, JJ72, Bell X1, The Libertines, The Kings of Leon, The Stokes, Modest Mouse, The Hold Steady - there's some of those i love and some i seriously dislike, would be cool to see Finn and the communities thoughts on any of them.
I teach music in a college and the amount of them who still play Arctic Monkeys is insane to me. I had to Google it, and they're like 20+ years old now. They were popular when I was in college like 10 years earlier, its beyond me.
Urban Outfitters Core Jack White had an upholstery job in his youth with a dude who got him into making music, and they started a band . He went from there to a great garage band called The Go, then started the White Stripes. I'm a Detroiter, and that shit got me sooo hype back in the day
All you gotta do is watch the live performance of Mr. Brightside at Glastonbury in 2019 with Johnny Marr, that’ll show you just how HUGE that song is over in the UK. And on top of that, that debut album for The Killers is just so damn good, it’s peak 2000s rock.
just wanted to say i completely agree with your Deathcab opinion, i used to fall asleep to the album Give Up by The Postal Service when i was younger. Ben is a 10/10 musician all around no question.
Gang of Four fricken slap! Their 1979 debut 'Entertainment!' still sounds great. Really dry and harsh, but also kinda catchy. Almost as good as Joy Division. Almost.
I’ll never understand the Muse and Radiohead comparisons. They sound nothing alike besides being a British band with falsetto. They had a sorta similar sound in the 90s because basically all 90s alt rock sounded similar, but they moved into completely different sounds.
Their debut albums, which both acts tried to distance themselves from over time btw, have the same producer. And both vocal styles were very inspired by Jeff Buckley. Matt even got one of his guitars recently. But that's all I can gather. Otherwise they went in different paths and the comparisons just don't hold up. Muse were more inspired by RATM than them, at least musically.
I knew this video would eventually be published. Jack White seems to have a good sense of humor, and would chuckle if you broke wind on his Tellytubby chair.
I was thinking about this the other day: The 2000s is really when rock got divided into “red” and “blue” state rock. I grew up in one of the bluest areas of the country(Bay Area) and in the early part of the 2000s my local rock station played lots of stuff like Godsmack/Staind/Papa Roach/POD etc. Around 2003/04 is when I stopped hearing those bands and started hearing the bands on this tier list. To me the bands on this tier list are PEAK Blue State rock. When I would go visit my family and friends in Fresno and Reno I’d hear a lot more stuff like Breaking Benjamin, 3 Days Grace, A7X, etc on the local rock stations out there. Hardly any of the bands in this vid except for maybe Muse. Anywho do you think because of the Red/blue state rock “divide”, that could be one factor in why Rock has not been as mainstream and popular since 2002? Has anybody else noticed that as well or am I just trippin? To ad my personal very subjective commentary: I can’t stand the White Stripes. To me they ruined rock radio.I would DEFINITELY take Nickelback and their expanded universe over The White Stripes any day lol.
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I genuinely had to Google who Morgan Wallen is.
Arctic Monkeys have more followers than him because the rest of the world doesn't care that much about Country music.
This point honestly flew over my head. Who is Morgan Wallen.
+1
FR, that's Todd in the Shadows levels of looking at things from a solely American perspective
@@iliketrains3495lately I noticed their opinions are very similar. And we never see them in the same room.
As a British guy, who does keep up to date with country music as well, very very very few people will know who Morgan Wallen is in the UK. If they do, they only know 1 song.
Arctic monkeys first album was so raw and grounded, it felt like the rise of oasis again. But then they drastically changed after the second album that it became generic.
Fame and fortune definitely went to their heads IMHO
With Arctic Monkies you are using a video of the later stuff (from the 2010s I think). Like, Favourite Worst Nightmare is an incredible album and it does not sound like a car commercial. It’s has so much energy.
Really hectic album. I have seriously watched every video on this channel for a couple of years. Try it Finn.
IPA core
The "car commercial" sound only applies to their most famous album AM. Even their 2 most recent albums, while flawed, barely fit into the "rock" category.
I was screaming internally at the whole Arctic Monkeys discourse. I'm not a fan of their later stuff at all, but their first 2 albums are both insanely good.
@@Pahhulook, the man needs to knock out these low effort content churn vids in short order, you really expect him to do much research, like more than a cursory flick through whatever he can recall off the top of his head to confirm whatever he half remembers?
"Death Cab for Cutie are as good as the Beatles" - Fin McKenty, March 18th, 2024 A.D.
Isn’t Death Cab on par with Modest Mouse?
Slightly better IMO. They have more banger albums since their career is 4x longer.
2024 CE*
@@ltrskltr That's funny you say that. Whenever I get into my Modest Mouse phase, Death Cab for Cutie surely follows, and vice versa.
@OneShotdeathCrew Even in the year of our Lord 2024, we have to deal with Atheist nerds.
Muse is one of those bands that's HUGE in Europe to the point where non-rock fans like Muse over there.
14 million monthly listeners on Spodify seems low considering how big they are over there.
I had the privilege of seeing them live, about ten years ago. I'm not a massive fan, but they were absolutely unreal live. Truly amazing performers.
th-cam.com/video/Nbzsv_E0lMk/w-d-xo.html This concert by them in 2007 truly is one of those ones that make you wish you can go back in time and attend it UNREAL
I seen em in portland 2013 for the 2nd law tour and just last April for the will of the people tour. Killer... amazing live act.
Saw them live in 2019 and it was an outstanding experience. Everyone was hyped beyond belief. Beyond the elaborate scenery, they're great performers.
Indeed kinda surprised they are so far behind Arctic Monkeys, honestly expected Muse to be the bigger one. But then again, I feel Muse nowadays mostly thrives as a live band, and even most fans don't really care that much about their newer stuff. Seen them 5 times now, and they always deliver....though mostly with their older songs.
I truly believe that in Finnverse there is Evil Finn traveling across Europe, spending all his money on local festivals, reading NME and hating Crazy Town.
Arctic Monkeys 1st three albums we're so good. Matt Helders is a criminally underrated drummer.
Their first EP is amazing
yeah ESPECIALLY the very first one, its insanely good, sounds pretty much nothing like the recent stuff, just straight up garage rock bangers
The third album started to go downhill to be honest... The first is an absolute classic. The second is a bit iffy but the third.... Oh dear.
@@slazulo I bet you look good on the dance floor is such an awesome music video. Dude's look like sophomores in highschool
Went to see them last year and I was amazed at how many 16 year Olds were there when i found them at that age 20 years ago. And of course they ruined the show as I had to watch the concert through everyone's phones
I'm slowly realizing that Finn might have the worst taste in music. Lol I love him, might be my favorite contrarian on TH-cam.
But he's definitely right on the Gorillaz, those guys are awful. The only 2 I disagree with him on are that he thinks Metallica and SOAD are mid
@@lightningmonky7674 bruh
He's completely wrong about Gorillaz
@@bigmankam agree to disagree, Gorillaz is super overrated and basic as hell
The only thing I disagree with here is that the killers are good
Yeah I hard disagree with him, I hate emo/screamo shit and like Tool but here I am anyway watching his videos because they're entertaining af. But he was right that the Killers are far better than most of these other indie radio 2000 bands
3:15 Who tf is Morgan Wallen?
Popular country artist.
@@ladev91exactly who tf is he
Thank you, I was like who??
Don't Google him. He's like Voldemort. He shallst not be mentioned
country or death boomer
Hope there's a part two with the Strokes, Interpol, and Queens of the Stone Age.
QOTSA are the 90s. but Interpol, Arcade Fire, Mars Volta, White Lies ore Young the Gigant could have been mentioned
@@andrzejnowak4315 Kyuss is 90s, but QOTSA, while started in the 90's is far more associated with 00's. Most people know them from Songs for the Deaf and on. In fact most of these bands on this list started in the 90s
@@andrzejnowak4315 QOTSA didn't start to get any traction until 2000 and didn't get big until 2002, so I would definitely consider them a 2000's band.
and the hives and franz ferdinand
They're not British so Finn probably won't hate them right away.
I know Arctic Monkeys blew up with the AM album, but I think at least half of their fans are still hardcore lovers of their first two albums. Personally, I think of their first 2 albums as being their "sound" that helped them become popular in the first place. AM just took them to another level.
As someone who’s a Gen Z (I’m 18) and discovered them throughout the last two years, I gotta say their first three albums are really good and their two latest ones, especially The Car. I just love that jazzy chill sound of that album. AM is a good album but some songs, especially I Wanna Be Yours, are not necessarily overrated but really overplayed among my generation…
Those first 3 albums are legendary. It kinda drops off from there though
Favorite Worst Nightmare is still my fav
The first two Arctic Monkeys albums were exhilarating when they came out at the time, they just appeared on the scene playing this fast, unique at the time kind of rock that seemed so refreshing and relatable to young British people at the time. They very quickly started playing the boring mall music you're listening to here, but man... Those first two albums. So exciting at the time.
When I was 15 I heard the first couple of seconds of I bet you look good on the dance floor, and I immediately had to find the whole song.
The AM album has classics but I didn't listen to it nearly as much.
dude, humbug is a masterpiece. first 3 albums are really good.
Humbug is my favorite arctic monkeys album!
What the fuck ever. I love their later stuff. The songwriting is terrific. “Boring mall music”. As if they were Falling In Reverse or something 😂
Which AM albums are boring mall? My favs AM albums orr their last staff: The Car + TBH&C (mainstream concept rock album in 2018!? Chapeu bas!)
Early Black Keys material is God Tier 2000’s rock. The late 2000’s era was when they were going way more mainstream
Yep, Finn always does the Black Keys and Arctic Monkeys dirty by ignoring their best albums.
@@beingprovidence As much as I love most of their output, Danger Mouse did them a huge disservice service with watering down their production on the later albums imo
Edit: Meant to say disservice in my original comment. The rawness of their sound is what ultimately drew me into their music
Magic potion god tier. Also Keep it hid the solo Auerbach record
1000 percent. sure if you just choose the one song they floged the fuck out of you have a point and i havent got into as much of their stuff since el camino which was the first album i didnt absolutely love. everything up t and including Brothers is fantastic
@@TJfromEarth I actually like El Camino quite a bit even though it’s not my favorite Black Keys album. I even like some tracks off of Turn Blue too
Not only do the Killers have some awesome songs, but for my friends and I they are the perfect intersection of all our music tastes . Mr.Brightside is one of our favorite songs to listen to on the occasion that we all get to hangout.
I can fucking smell that room
Same. I'm kind of the weirdo in my main friend group because I listen to rock music lol, but my friends and I can all agree that this song is great
Half of these bands are British. For a small island we were very prolific with our bland indie rock.
Which UK indie rock bands are not bland then?
@@Adyman182 tbf indie was never my thing. Muse do actually have some bangers. I also like The Wombats.
Uk has had a lot of great musicians throughout the years not gonna lie
I was amazed when I learned, that The Killers are not from UK, but Texas
I listen to Arctic Monkeys, I have never heard of Morgan Wallen. The voice of the singer is so specific you would recognize it instantly.
Muse was one of the bands that made me want to play guitar but you calling them butt rock Radiohead and then playing Hysteria had me dying bro 😂
Bloc Party had EDGE and heavy moments, their first 2-3 album are SOLID af their lyrics were more intelligent than most bands at the time and the drumming was insane
YESSSS!!!!!!! Silent Alarm absolutely knocked my block off!!!!and was one of the main albums that inspired me the most to take up the drums, second only to Queens of the Stone Age's Songs for the Deaf!!!!🤘🤟🤘
First album brilliant, second album pretty good, everything else meh.
I know Arctic Monkeys but I have never heard of Morgan Wallen before this video 🤷♂️
That's interesting. I'm less familiar with Arctic.
"I hate Gorillaz" Wow, that's an interesting way of saying "I didn't grow up with Cartoon Network". Get fuckin owned DAD!
I think the concept is cool, like the virtual band thing, especially for the time, but to me I didn’t like the music (I will say I much prefer it to blur tho)
@@kingschlamiel its fine dude. didn't like em at first either but they have grown on me
@@reptilemagicians same I didnt like them at first but they grew on me over time. I use to hate hearing them on TV or on the radio back in the 2000s then when I stopped hearing it now I miss it. It brings back memories of me and my friend in middle school listening to all this music
Is this a reference to how Ace from The Powerpuff Girls became an official member of Gorillaz?
One of my favorite things about Fin is that he hates everything I loved growing up; Tool, SOAD, Gorillaz and I never heard anyone speak bad of them so it’s refreshing and challenges my beliefs.
Finn doesn't hate Tool, but their fanbaze :)
I lost it when he compared Feel good to fucking dance monkey
Arctic monkeys blew up thanks to tumblr I think. I always equated their music to sad alt girls who weren’t into heavy music but wanted something heavier than typical indie music.
I really like the earlier, more raucous stuff from Arctic Monkeys. The first two albums were great.
Same story with the Black Keys, he immediately jumps to their 6th(?) album, they were basically checked out creativly by then....
I loved the first two albums really unique and rowdy songs. Never gave the newer stuff a fair chance
Arctic Monkeys are so big and have so many monthly listeners because they have so many international fans
With how much you love Death Cab, I’d love to get a deep dive on your main channel
Id want it because I've always known they exist but have never listened to them (it's like RaTM I didn't hear any of their songs until I was in my 20s despite knowing the bands name most of my life)
As usual an entertaining list, but I feel you missed a pretty big rock band from the 2000s. Queens of the Stone Age.
If you asked 2008 me, this whole tier list woulda been S tier.
They are S tier
The bloc party slander is crazy
I commented the same thing! Silent Alarm is legendary!
@@jovanreid6782 One of my favourite albums, in fact it got me into playing drums.
Fun fact: MGK inspired all of these bands to start music. Therefore, MGK belongs as the only S tier 2000s rock band.
As in MGK M stands for Mozart, G stands for Giuseppe Verdi and K for Kodály it has been said that MGK inspired music in general.
MGK truly is the best
Those chairs that Jack White upholstered are aluminum framed chairs developed for the US Navy and are hella expensive.
You're right.,..... S tier stands for "suck" right...?
MGK sounds like a drunk rooster
I'd say the big four of 2000s rock are Jimmy Eat World, The Killers, Death Cab, and Franz Ferdinand.
Definitely need to do a part 2 with the strokes, kings of Leon, the libertines, modest mouse etc
Blue state rock tier list lol
@@real30yearoldboomerhours53don’t forget Wolfmother, Franz Ferdinand, and The Hives
You always talk about car commercial music but I remember thinking it was a sign that millennials are now in the workforce and are marketing professionals and opening the door for actual cool/interesting bands in mainstream commercials. It’s kinda a chicken/egg scenario. That style of music *became* synonymous with car commercials eventually, but at first it was a really cool hip change of pace to have these bands on a commercial
You really need to listen to Arctic Monkeys first album. One of the best debut albums ever imo
He won’t like it. He doesn’t like good songwriting.
He’d rather spend time listening to Escape the Fate.
💯
Really interesting to see how different american and european music cultures are. Arctic Monkeys are considered gods by about anyone who loves music where I live (Paris). There's maybe one album I don't really like that much (Suck it and see). All the others are S tier, the first one easy in my top 5 albums of all time.
Their latest 2 records are also really interesting composition and production wise with a wide range of unusual instruments for indie music and hauntingly beautiful lyrics. A couple songs you might wanna check out to explore:
When the sun goes down
Brianstorm
Pretty visitors
Star treatment
Body paint
cheers Finn and thanks for the great content!!
Do not listen to this guy's opinon about alternative, indie or softer rock music he hates them. Of course they are very great. No one is F tier band in this video at least solid B or above.
I will accept zero slander against The Killers' Hot Fuss album. It's a masterpiece from front to back
I’m gonna be pissed if there’s a part 2 and Queens of the Stone Age is reduced to truck music. They’re very clearly quirky desert meth rock. S-tier stuff
"Desert meth rock" love that 😅
Definitely a band with zero bad albums
Finn's arch nemesis - car commercial music
Jack White was also on American Pickers where he asked them to find a mobile recording truck that was used to record live albums by Lynyrd Skyntrd, KISS, and Bob Seger, among others. Interesting episodes.
Arctic Monkeys are known internationally and Morgan Wallen isn’t, prob the reason for the play count difference. Personally, I never really got into anything from Arctic Monkeys past their first album.
If yoy're like 20-30 sth try Humbug&AM. If nearly 40, try latest staff: The Car + TBH&C
Trash theory has a great video on how Artic Monkeys had to change their sound to appeal to a US audience. Their original music when they were popular in the UK vs what they make now is like night and day
Yeah I saw that, I preferred their earlier stuff, they lost their identity for me when appealing to the American market
Jack White made a roller stool for Adam Savage of mythbusters fame. He made a video about it on his channel tested.
Brothers by The Black Keys is nostalgic because it was one of the records my wife was listening to a lot when we first met, but I can’t disagree that it’s commercial music.
I was glad to see the love for Jack White, and that you knew about his upholstery fetish. That is part of why I love him. He all kinds of weird interests. The white stripes are simple but he is actually a very skilled musician and can play a huge variety of instruments. He’s a weirdo. And I love him for it.
“Muse is the butt rock Radiohead” so true it hurts
“Best 2000’s band tier list!”
*starts with a song from 2013*
I loved Muse, but not so much now. Fun fact - having radiotherapy I met a woman who went to school with Bellamy😳
That fact, is in fact, not a fun fact.
@@ChainsawChristmas Yes, but I'm not dead😁
Even tho I love Gorillaz a lot I have to respect the hatred that Finn has for them
Lmao forreal it all comes down to perspective at which the music came out too...age and environment and so on does effect it imo
@@chris-zd9sr Yeah afterall I was born in the early 2000s and most of this music was constantly on MTV and VH1 so I have a lot of love for it especially gorillaz, muse and the black keys
I recommend listening and revieving Biffy Clyro. Crazy rockers from Scotland. Very creative and amazing sounds since early 2000's till today.
Let's hope he at least gets a better first impression than Fantano does, who first heard of them through their WAP cover/parody(?)
@@iliketrains3495 well its easier to find their biggest hit songs than this cover XD ive never heard of it
Maximo Park takes the spot on the back of one 35 minute album that was the peak of an insanely good 2005.
Damm, I didn't know any else even knew of the band
@@OTB2002 They were all the rage back then, along with Bloc Party. It was almost like Oasis and Blur.
Grafitti and Apply Some Pressure are two of the greatest pop songs of all time.
I'd recommend anyone to try 'Whatever People I Say Am, That's What I'm Not', the first Arctic Monkeys album. It seemed to kickoff the Landfill Indie trend (I use that phrase with love) in the UK and yet somehow nothing else that made the charts afterwards sounded anything like it. The lyrics are always good for a laugh even if you don't like the music
OMG, Finn has up to five different opinions than me. I can't stand him!
Muse showed me that you can be proficient at an instrument and still write great songs. I'm used to "guitar" music being couched in the shred / endless guitar solo category. Big fan of most of their stuff from Origin of Symmetry through 2nd Law.
I feel the same way about Muse you feel about Arctic Monkeys and black keys. I’m missing something
Muse are a great live band and 100% suited to stadiums. Saw them in Rome in 2013 fimed for that dvd and was epic.
Fun Fact: the band The Mountain Goats are the source of the name "The Killers", as well as "Satan's Fingers" and "The Hospital Bombers".
I’m 40 years old and I have just recently learned how big the Arctic Monkeys are. I don’t think I know a single person who listens to this band. I remember when they came out but had no idea they were this popular
Im also 40 and started to listen to AM circa 5 years ago. Their last staff is brilliant: The Car or TBH&C. They are the best and one of the last good "new" (18 years!) mainstream rock band.
Finn, if you’ve never talked about them whats your opinion on Kings of Leon? Also you mentioned the OC so I’m curious if you have an opinion on Phantom Planet
Death cab has a way of putting you in the imagery they are portraying in the music. One of my favorite bands still to this day. Also that Artic Monkeys B is solid, they had one really good Album and thats it. discography of good stuff too small to put them in upper tiers. here's a band that flew under the radar in the US for some reason that you'll hate ( i love it); Kasabian.
I knew why i liked you Finn. Death Cab are one of my all time favorite bands. Im not into a lot of indie rock, but Death Cab have just truly amazing music. There is very little they have put out that I havent loved.
Same here. One of my favorite band, of all time, of any era, of any genre. Who knew Finn thought so highly of them? This makes my day!
The content has been impeccable lately
Where is Linkin Park, System of a Down, Incubus, Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, Owl City, My Chemical Romance, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Ok Go, Good Charlotte, Thirty Seconds to Mars?
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should definitely give some earlier Arctic Monkeys a listen. AM is incredibly tame. The first 2 albums at least had some energy.
Brain dead take on Bloc Party. Silent Alarm is a 10/10 album.
funny thing about Bloc Party, despite sounding a lot like them, they don't like gang of four, they were more inspired by Disco and Franz Ferdinand
I want a butt rock tier list and they better all be S tier because they are
I always loved that gothic type art that gorillaz and korn used. Its got this weird urban invader zim feel to it.
As someone who makes a living in cover and wedding bands, if you DON'T play "Mr. Brightside" people will complain.
Literally lost count of how many hundreds of times I've played that on stage 😂
Would love to see a part two so I can see your thoughts on The Shins and Kings Of Leon. Two of my favorite bands of all time from my childhood in the 2000s
Breaking Benjamin are my pick for the best 2000s band
Death cab for cutie fans, which songs should I listen to as someone whose never heard them? I'm typically a metal/pop punk fan for what it's worth if other songs correlate with that more
I'm not a mega fan, but I respect them and like a lot of their music. My recommendations would be 1. Soul Meets Body 2. I Will Follow You into the Dark 3. A Lack of Color 4. Stay Young, Go Dancing 5. Underneath the Sycamore 6. Home is a Fire 7. For What Reason 8. Crooked Teeth 9. TV Trays 10. This Charming Man and 11. The Sound of Settling. But there are a lot of really great songs in their catalog. They're not metal or pop/punk (though if you want a little more rough/raw indie rock out of them, check out their earliest albums) but I think if you are a person who appreciates good music regardless of genre, they could appeal to you when you are in the midst of your more chill, sad, and thoughtful moods.
I remembered loving Arctic Monkeys in 2013, like the AM album I blasted all the time in my car 😂😂
What about their new albums: The Car and TBH&C?
Finn talking about why Muse is too in the middle of genres for him to like them was a great description as to why I think they are so great! They are all technically proficient, but it's not just about chops, they rock but they aren't so heavy that they only use screams and growls, and not so indie that they're indie... 🤔 I'm not sure exactly what that means lol
For someone who often talks about how bands should try new things and not just sit in a stale genre, Finn refers to music that isn't keeping itself backed into a metaphorical genre corner as if it's a bad thing.
Totally inaccurate. I also love wildly experimental music like Reverorum Ib Malacht or Cecil Taylor. I just don't care for music that's only slightly experimental... it's not commited enough for me.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Most experiments yield almost nothing listenable. I am not hating, it is just the nature of experiments by definition. But artists that incorporate those few bits of experimental genius into catchy music or more viable formats deserve credit too. There is likely more variety in the land between Ariana Grande and Cecil Taylor than at those extremities
8:37 hysteria is a banger. That baseline is god tier, among the greats like Longview and Schism
Damn, Finn out here straight up wrecking my music taste on a Monday 😔!
Surprised you didn’t mention The Strokes. I know lots of copy cat bands followed their sound but I think they’re one of the heavy hitters of the early/ mid 2000’s in this genre. Would be curious to hear you talk about them!
I mean, if the people who make commercials were into brutal technical death metal, brutal technical death metal would probably sound like car commercial music
100 percent agree I don't get the genre but Death cab is most definitely top shelf music. Something about how it was written it just grabs you.
This video really made me remember how little I like 2000s rock. I was a teen during this time and couldn’t stand almost every one of these bands.
Currently obsessed with Wolfmother’s first two albums
i love every band here
A few suggestion for future episodes in this series: Coldplay, The Detroit Cobras, Kasabian, Franz Ferdinand, The Electric Six, Hard-Fi, The Hot Hot Heat, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Razorlight, MGMT, The Coral, The Kaiser Chiefs, JJ72, Bell X1, The Libertines, The Kings of Leon, The Stokes, Modest Mouse, The Hold Steady - there's some of those i love and some i seriously dislike, would be cool to see Finn and the communities thoughts on any of them.
I teach music in a college and the amount of them who still play Arctic Monkeys is insane to me. I had to Google it, and they're like 20+ years old now. They were popular when I was in college like 10 years earlier, its beyond me.
It’s called being able to write quality timeless songs. I’d expect a music teacher to get that. Do you also not get The Beach Boys or the Beatles?
@@KickflipGnasty you misspelt Kid Rock and Hollywood Undead
How do you feel about Empire of the sun?
They're great, along with MGMT
Only 8 views in 1 minute? Fell off
Statistics are wildly wrong for the first 2 to 3 hours while TH-cam's algorithm evaluates.
@dynamicphotography_ yeah it's a joke
😂😂
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Jack White had an upholstery job in his youth with a dude who got him into making music, and they started a band . He went from there to a great garage band called The Go, then started the White Stripes.
I'm a Detroiter, and that shit got me sooo hype back in the day
2000s definitely better than 2010s...by a very slim margin. Imo. 🇨🇦🤘🤘...still fascinated that Evanescence opened for Muse last year.
All you gotta do is watch the live performance of Mr. Brightside at Glastonbury in 2019 with Johnny Marr, that’ll show you just how HUGE that song is over in the UK.
And on top of that, that debut album for The Killers is just so damn good, it’s peak 2000s rock.
18:51 Brendan stole Brandons gimmick lol
just wanted to say i completely agree with your Deathcab opinion, i used to fall asleep to the album Give Up by The Postal Service when i was younger. Ben is a 10/10 musician all around no question.
Gorillaz are awesome, and no one will ever take them away from me 😁
I love the Killers’ songs that sound super Alphaville-inspired. It’s such a great combination of upbeat and haunting.
The disrespect for Gorillaz I’m 22 and they’re great.
Gang of Four fricken slap! Their 1979 debut 'Entertainment!' still sounds great. Really dry and harsh, but also kinda catchy. Almost as good as Joy Division. Almost.
I’ll never understand the Muse and Radiohead comparisons. They sound nothing alike besides being a British band with falsetto. They had a sorta similar sound in the 90s because basically all 90s alt rock sounded similar, but they moved into completely different sounds.
If there's any band to compare Muse to it's Queen. Especially live.
It’s not about sound it’s about the space they occupy compared to their contemporaries
Their debut albums, which both acts tried to distance themselves from over time btw, have the same producer. And both vocal styles were very inspired by Jeff Buckley. Matt even got one of his guitars recently. But that's all I can gather. Otherwise they went in different paths and the comparisons just don't hold up. Muse were more inspired by RATM than them, at least musically.
Everyone forgets The Black Keys made 5 great raw blues albums before they started making car commercial music 😞
This is what I get for being awake?? Sweet
I knew this video would eventually be published. Jack White seems to have a good sense of humor, and would chuckle if you broke wind on his Tellytubby chair.
I was thinking about this the other day: The 2000s is really when rock got divided into “red” and “blue” state rock. I grew up in one of the bluest areas of the country(Bay Area) and in the early part of the 2000s my local rock station played lots of stuff like Godsmack/Staind/Papa Roach/POD etc. Around 2003/04 is when I stopped hearing those bands and started hearing the bands on this tier list. To me the bands on this tier list are PEAK Blue State rock. When I would go visit my family and friends in Fresno and Reno I’d hear a lot more stuff like Breaking Benjamin, 3 Days Grace, A7X, etc on the local rock stations out there. Hardly any of the bands in this vid except for maybe Muse. Anywho do you think because of the Red/blue state rock “divide”, that could be one factor in why Rock has not been as mainstream and popular since 2002? Has anybody else noticed that as well or am I just trippin?
To ad my personal very subjective commentary: I can’t stand the White Stripes. To me they ruined rock radio.I would DEFINITELY take Nickelback and their expanded universe over The White Stripes any day lol.
I like your thinking on this!
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA thanks King! Could make for a good video topic too
This makes a lot of sense. Politics has bled into things more than a lot of people would think.
I didn’t realize how much I liked 2000’s rock till you went through these
I didn't quite realize how much I disliked 2000s rock until this video, lmao. I mostly blame car commercials.
Damn Finn lookin' swole lately. Drop that workout routine!