I just bought this microphone used for about $200 off. Can't wait for it to arrive! It should be the perfect solution for ambient field recording in the city.
This microphone has 14db of self noise, and I think it's just fine. I think many times they are trying to sell us the low noise retoric and most of the times it all has pros and cons, for instance this one holds up to 155db spl, 20db over the lewitt 540s. IMHO It's more important to have more dynamic range and avoid (at all cost) distortion at the mic level, because 32bits are not going to save your there. Further more, it's also important how to use the mic and capture the sound, than just take numbers like the noise floor if you, for instance, end up capturing loud sources. I think that even the 32bits are more important than the self noise of a condenser IMHO
This is a very compact solution for ambience recording. Though the stereo width is lesser comparing to omni spaced pair but it is most compact setup and great for portable. I`d love to buy this microphone someday
Ha, I like the spirit of capturing/ recording just what's there. Not sth unnaturally polished, but just natural everyday noises. Once you start to become aware, there is always a "landscape" of sound almost everywhere. Grüßle aus Berlin
I have the setup that you talk of here and it's great, thanks for sharing this! One enhancement that I made, the included cable is 16.5 feet long and i cut it up into two sections: a 5.5 foot and and an 11 foot cable, and I use the more manageable 5.5 foot section most the time and it's far easier to handle.
Just found this video, interesting as the 4025 has been my go to X/Y field mic for several years now. I also use the 4029 M/S shotgun on occasion. Both are very good for the money. I use the same Rycote pistol mount and BBG windscreen as you. I flipped the rubber friction mount in the BBG around 180 deg to give a bit more room inside the BBG so the front of the 4025 has a little more air space. I noticed you had the mic in the mount backwards (according the the arrow on the mount) but maybe you did that to make the mic stick out farther. I also noticed you had the K-Tek internal boom cable plugged onto the stereo mic. Did you re-wire the boom with 5-pin XLR connectors and cable for stereo or did you buy it that way? This video is two years old and you have moved on to the Schoeps DMS system but for $649 it is hard to the beat the sound you got from the 4025.
@@FreeToUseSounds ...thanks 🙏 Could I beg a question of you? Q...when you connect this mic via the 2 XLR’s to the Zoom F6 do you put the 48v phantom power it requires through both or just one?
Jetzt aber ab ins Bettchen mit euch :) Vielen Dank für den Test. Bin erst am Anfang des Videos und sehr gespannt. Lasst es euch gut gehen. Edit: Sehr natürlicher Sound und überraschend viel Breite für ein XY-Mikrofon.
Ha Ha Ha :) okay machen wir. Mussten das Video nochmals neu mischen und hochladen. Waren heute „nur“ 16 Stunden. Morgen Früh geht es dann Richtung Puls von Split. Viel Spaß beim schauen und Good Night. :)
I would really love to see episode about F6 + various microphone options for recording directional birds vocalizations. Great content audio and video, you both are very inspiring, thank you.
Hey, amazing video, I have a question though. Would a stereo mic like this one be good for doing doc-like work, travel video, shooting out in your environment. I make a lot of videos where I’m outside and I’d like to record things like the waves, trees bristling in the wind, people walking etc, and I’m confused whether I should use an stereo mic like this or a standard shotgun on-camera. Would love your advice and recommendations.
oh thanks a lot... iam waiting for this review very long. i newly upgraded to a used zoom f4 and i love it.... so next step maybe is the bp4025. you have a realy nice chanel. keep going.
Super review guysss! If someone is interested in this microphone, you can find it also on Thomann for €535, just checked this morning ahah! Big up from Trieste (IT), always an inspiration
Oh Trieste? We are not far from there later. We heading to Pula. :). I ordered the Rycote from Thomann and yes they are great and have always some good offers.
@@FreeToUseSounds Yesss, we're are close! Pula is a super cool city with great spot where to capture sounds! There's a cool spot for reverbs (if I remember correctly). Is the so-called Zerostrasse. A series of tunnels built to protect Pula citizens during air raids during World War.
Hi Marcel. I love the 4025, it's a great microphone. I was just wondering about your experience with the Rycote BBG. I have bought 2, in the correct size which is 21mm, but I found the fit of the grommet so tight that the first bbg broke while I was putting it on the microphone, and the second one was also extremely tight and I had to return it. Did you use the 21mm or did you go for the larger 22mm size? Thanks
Would it be a good pair with a Zoom F3 (32 Bit), or would you recommend something different (I'm just getting started) - Thanks! Just love your obvious passion & joy for what you do!
Yes I bought the AT here in Zagreb because I the cable broke. I just don't like the spiral cable from the Sony. It drives me nuts but they both very similar. The AT fit better around my head and ears.
Thank you for posting this review and recording tests! Did you put the Rycote BBG and windjammer on at the same time along with the foam? Is there any difference in quality if one those elements is removed on a windless day? thank you!
Hi Jeff! Yes in this video I had the foam on the microphone too. If there is no wind I recommend not using the windjammer. The foam and the BBG are enough. Friends told me that, if I use the Cinela Albert together with the wind protection I loose quality in the low ends. I assume that could happen with this setup too.
Hi there sounds great 😊 Looking for a mic set. So Just one question. Does this mic do better as a standalone mic for ambience recording or would a pair do even better for stereo listening experience. Like the DPA’s or a pair of MKH’s?
Hi! It's a great microphone, but to find out which stereo microphone kit you like, you need to understand the difference between the different recording techniques. This microphone is XY, but there are also ORTF, NOS, A-B, MS, DMS, Blumlein and binaural stereo. So, knowing this, you need to know which microphones are made for the recording technique of your choice. Then you need to learn more about the characteristics (polar pattern) of the microphones . When you know all of this, you will know which microphone is best for you.
Thanks for sending me this way towards this microphone, this type of info is truly so valuable. Thanks heaps!😀 SUBBED. After watching this I feel that I have so much to learn now haha,,not sure if I can afford that with a zoom f6 though. I need to start off slowly and work my way into it. Any other vids on your channel for beginners recording nature sounds, waves, river, creeks, birds things like that? Thanks again Marty
Amazing vid, just subscribed. I have kind of a noob question - you have Both a foam windscreen and the fluffy Rycote wind screen. I realize you want them to reduce wind noise and protection, but wouldn't it actually sound better without either one? Bare mic direct recording without any filters?
Thank you, Mike! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for subscribing! While it's true that using a bare microphone without any filters might seem like it would provide a clearer sound, in reality, wind can significantly distort audio recordings. Many microphones on their own don't have built-in protection against wind. Without a foam windscreen or a fluffy windscreen, strong wind can not only distort the sound but also potentially damage the microphone's membranes. Additionally, wind can carry dust and other particles that could get into the microphone and destroy it over time. Recording close to the sea with salt in the air and not using protective material is really not a good idea. :) So, these windscreens are essential for protecting the microphone and ensuring the best possible audio quality in various environments, especially outdoors. Hope that helps clarify!
Hi Marcel! I am purchasing the BP4025 soon, but I would like to know what size/diameter of the rycote bbg in the video you bought for yours. You know the sizes are different on the Thomann website (20mm, 21mm, 22mm, and 25mm), so I would like to know which fits best. Thanks. Samuel.
hi, what do you think about startin (because of low budget) with Deity microphone (D3 PRO?) instead of this? what's the main differences with such different prices? do you think is better to save money instead? I want to do field recording, sound design with it. thanks! Or another option for me was to buy for now some usi pro (or clippy) and start with them first and then buy a shotgun mic...
This mic sounds great, thanks for the great video! Did you apply any EQ in post? I have an Audio Technica shotgun mic, which I love, but always reach for some HF in post to brighten it up a bit.
Hello! As a result of your super video, I ordered a BP4025 microphone. For a dish that is just baking and blushing, how far do you suggest you put the microphone? It’s the goose of a dish fried in an average pan. In close proximity to shotgon microphones?
Awsome channel ! You are such inspirationnal individuals !! Do you think the 4025 could be good for recording indoors meditative music too ? I'd love to have a mic that could do indoors and field recording... I know that the answer is probably to have 2 different mics but...
Hi! Thank you so much for your kind words and support! Regarding the 4025 microphone, it can be used indoors as well. While it might not perform exactly like a large diaphragm microphone when recording indoor, it's a versatile piece of equipment that should work decently for both indoor and field recordings. It's always nice to have specialized mics for different scenarios, but the 4025 can be a great all-rounder if you're looking for a single solution.
@@FreeToUseSounds Big thanks for responding and so quickly ! Have a great life ! You are very generous and positive, it's a pleasure to follow you adventures!
Hi Marcel! Thanks to your videos I just upgraded to the F6 and now I need one great mic. (Sold my H6 to upgrade to H8, then sold that to upgrade to F6 so now the only field recording mics I have are stereo omni lavs.) For one mic to get me going would you recommend the BP4025 or the Rode NT SF1? Thanks, Marcel!
Hi Bekah! Hmm the AT 4025 is a great microphone but I wouldn't compare it to the NT-SF1 because its just a different type of mic. You need to decide if you need four channel recordings (ambisonic) for your work or not. Of course with the NT-SF1 and the plugin you can create unique and different stereo files and you can create 5.1, 7.1 etc with it. It all sounds great but do you need it is the questions? Keep in mind for the AT 4025 you need extra wind protection and a good mount. Rycote has the BBG but also a different blimp. With the second option you are beyond $1100 and the NT-SF1 has everything included for $1000. I'm recording with the NT-SF1 currently almost every day around Denver and I like the quality. What I'm not really a fan of is the windjammer. Low winds is alright but for high winds its not very useful. I might get a Rycote Cyclon for it and solve the problem. Its not cheap and more weight.
You convinced me to get this microphone. What is the make and model of the grey ball that fits over the foam. Could not make it out from the video. Keep the great videos coming.
Hi Marcel, firstly thank you so for all of your and Libby's videos they're amazing and I appreciate them so much. I'm very interested in the audio Technica BP4025, however, I was interested if you knew if it fit inside the Rycote super blimp (specifically for the NTG5)? If you're not sure that's totally fine, just thought I'd ask :) thanks!
Hi Barney, I do have the super blimp as well and yes it fits but the main issue is the weight of the AT 4025. The clips are not strong enough. So you would need some that are much stronger. 4 Clips wouldn't work because the mic is not long enough.
@@FreeToUseSounds Ahh that makes sense I hadn't even considered weight aha! You don't happen to know if Rycote sell stronger clips? If they don't I might just get the wind protection you recommend in this video :) was just hoping I could use what I had already for the time being aha.
@@barneyandrews7536 Hmm, I don't think they have. I also use longer holding rack and thats even not strong enough. The problem with the NTG system is that it doesn't has a rail with several screws to mount the holders. You only have the designated clip options. Rycote has an extra Modular Windshield WS 3 Kit (XLR-5F) but thats another $620 on B and H.
@@FreeToUseSounds Ah I see, I reckon I'll just get what you recommended in the video then :) thanks so much for your replies, I really appreciate you giving the time! Keep up the awesome work!
Thanx for the review! Seems like an awesome mic. I have a H6 with the SGH-6 shotgun mic. The furry wind protection that comes with it is really bad. Any suggestions? Do you complement the Audio-Technica with a shotgun mic when recording smaller things outside to reduce the surronding sounds?
I have the Deity Smic 2S but to be honest I don't use it too often. I focus more on the ambience and not on smaller objects or recording in mono. I know its good but its just something I don't really do. Wind protection the SGH?
Ah, ok I see :) Yes, something for the SGH that is better than the one that comes with it. Sooner or later I'll buy something like the Audio-Technica. The BBG looks really neat and not as clumpsy as a blimp.
So cool. Quick question though: Considering that it's a 1 output jack that's stereo, can you use it on the Zoom F3 (1 input only) and still have a stereo track? I hope this question makes sense. I'm asking this because I'm planning to use a Zoom F3 rig with one mono shotgun mic (input 1) and one stereo mic in (input 2). If I we use the AT4025 or AT822 for this setup, would the F3's input 2 provide a stereo file? Thanks in advance for anyone who can help me out with this question.
Hi Vince! "Unfortunately, this won't work. The stereo cable left and right have 3-pin XLR on both sides, while the connector on the boom has a 5-pin. The cable splits the 5-pin into left and right. The same with microphone. It has a 5 pin connector.
Hey! Great video! One question - the microphone has a 5 pin XLRM - and your boom pole - 3 pin. How do you connect it to keep the channels separate on the output?
Wonderful productions! Recommended mount for DSLR, perhaps in case and short XLR cables to MixPre underneath? Need quality stereo with wind protection with direction following camera (solo shooter)..
Hi Henrik, you could look into the Audio Technica stereo shotgun microphone AT835ST For this you could use a Rycote classic softie kit. You can find it on the Rycote website. Just click on “search for microphone” and use AT835ST. For the cables you probably need to find somebody who can shorten this for you.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for the advice. Can you, or someone else, judge how well the Rode Stereo Videomic X is? It seems easy to mount on camera. I can use it with minijack direct in DSLR or via phantom power mini XLR if I want to have my MixPre with me for better preamps. But how does it compare to BP4025... Can't find many reviews with comparisons on this Rode X model.
Your channel is such a treasure trove of inspiration. Question for you: Do you use the hand clap to sync your videos or are you using an external device, like a Deity TC-1 for timecode? I've invested in the Deity system and hope it turns out to be a wise choice. I do some multi camera video, which is the main reason for the timecode system but, have played with feeding one of the TC-1s into my X8.
Grrr, now I want one... 😋 I didn't known this particular mike: it seems sooo good! Fantastic specifications for sure: seems very valuable for this price, a real bargain. I own several microphones, corresponding to various uses, but no stereo one like this. The 120° axis of the capsules looks like a sort of mix between ORTF and XY stereophony : have you a feeling of hole in the center of the scenes you record or not at all? I used to record music representations of my children at the conservatory in ORTF mode with a cheap Behringer B5 cardioid pair (or Sennheiser ME-64 sometimes) and was very pleased with the results... But this set is not very practical for field recording. So I've acquired a Shure VP-88 for this use which I do love a lot: it's a very versatile tough M-S Mike which allows me to choose the size of my stereo field directly on the Mike (Small, Medium or Large) or later in post-processing with a perfect mono compatibility for radio use because of the cardioid center capsule. But it suffers of a very high self-noise level and mere dynamic, limiting its use for quiet ambiances... (Maybe I should try adding feat-head preamps?) So I recently bought a 2d hand Pearl MSH-10: another very expensive but high quality tiny M-S micro for stereo recording. Not ever used it but it should be wonderful for field recording... And I've found a 2d one I intend to use in double M-S mode to try some 5.1 recordings I could listen in my home cinema: it should be great if I succeed! I'd love to add the BP-4025 alongside to this one to compare the results nevertheless: 2 complementaries micro for stereo recordings. The Audio Technica is for sure a clear winner to avoid clipping, considering its 145 dB spl (and even 155 using the pad) plugged in the F6 and its dreaming 32 bits, but being able to choose your stereo size is such a great specification too... I just want them both! 😁 Congrats for your job Marcel (and Libby of course), love to look at your videos. Keep going on man! You'll be welcome if you come near Toulouse (FR) 🥂
Hi and sorry for the late response. Oh yes the AT 4025 is a wonderful sounding microphone. No hole or anything. I don't think they would release a product that would create such thing.
Hi Marcel, first of all thanks for all the great content. I wanted to ask your input on using the AT 4025 with the H6, specially for ambient recordings. I mean, I've heard the H6 gets noisy for these kind of recordings as you have to kick the gain, but I wanted to ask if the 4025 might make up for that. Thanks.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for your answer! So from your experience the h6 is not noisy? Just 2 more questions. Is the 4025 waterproof? I saw you put quite near to the water. And do you also think the h6 would go well with the lom geofom?
@@joseugalde3192 yes I can tell you from my experience that I had the H6 for lots of my sound recordings in the beginning until I moved up to different recording devices. Oh no the microphone is not waterproof. So be careful :) yes the H6 works with the H6 as well. No pp required.
Hi! You can use this microphone for indoor recordings as well. But since these bowls create high frequenzies, I would use the Sennheiser MKH 8040 or even an Sanken C0100K. Or check out Earthworks Audio. Amazing microphones.
@@WindowOfHappiness Many budget options are available in this price range. Maybe look into Line Audio. Is a Swedish company and I heard good things about it.
Hi! I just bought the AT4025 but I’m still deciding which recorder to buy between the F3 and F6. Would you recommend the F3 if I didn’t need that 6-Input? Thank you so much! Been binge-watching your videos to increase my knowledge on field recording! ❤
Hi there, First off, thank you so much for binge-watching our videos! We're thrilled that they're helping you on your field recording journey! ❤️ Now, regarding your question, both the F3 and F6 are excellent choices, and the right one for you really depends on your specific needs and preferences. If you don't see yourself needing the extra inputs that the F6 offers in the future and would prefer a smaller, more cost-effective recorder, then the F3 could very well be the better choice. It's also worth noting that the price of the F6 has increased over the past couple of years. We have a friend in Japan who uses the AT 4025 with the F3 and loves this compact setup.
Perfect :) As long as we're reaching people who are genuinely interested in field recording and providing them with valuable content, we'll continue doing what we love. Thanks for your kind words and support, it truly means a lot! Happy field recording! 😊
You may have already answered this question somewhere in the comments but I could not find the answer. How do you attach the five pin XLR Male output of the microphone to a three pin boom pole cable? I see you have some sort of an adapter in one part of the video but I can’t tell what it is and I don’t see it listed in the parts.
Hi! This boom pole had a 5 pin adapter but it started to create some really weird crackle sounds and I stopped using it. Maybe KTek solved that issue already. You can get this boom pole with a five pin.
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Thanks again for this review..you've certainly put this mic on my radar! Do you think this would work on a boom pole for sit down interviews as well...above the talent...or would you also need a dedicated shotgun for something like that? Thanks!
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you! At my school where I work..we just used a Rode Shotgun mic for an interview..and it did a great job above...I can see there is a place for lots of mics!! I like the idea of the stereo recordingt though for ambience. Anyway thanks for making me aware of the Audio Technica...seems lke a great option for ambience and sound effects. Thank you.
Hi - I used this mic in very windy conditions with the blimp/dead cat that I usually use for my shotgun mono mic. There was a large amount of wind noise on the recording, which surprised me. Are stereo mics generally more sensitive to wind than mono mics? And which blimp set-up would you recommend for this mic when recording in windy conditions? Thanks for any advice you might be able to provide.
I'm often surprised how much I enjoy ambient recordings. As you say, they're quite relaxing. How would you compare the recordings you get with this mic to an ORTF setup with 2 separate mics? I'm considering this or a pair of Rode NT5s.
Hi Alan. Of course the ORTF with the Sennheiser 8040 I use is another world. The sound field feels more natural to my ears. When I had AB setups I used USI Pro or DPA omnis what what great so I wonder how 8050 would sound like in a ln ORTF angle. Not sure how the NT5 would sound like but I assume these are a nice pair.
Good Afternoon everyone! Does anyone have any ideas on what would be the best way to record audio of passing boats or cars that are at a distance? I currently use a mid level Sony shotgun mic on my pro Panasonic 4K video camera... but can't seem to get good clear audio levels when I film them. The distance varies of the cars and boats that I am filming... but typically I would estimate that they are anywhere from 20 to 100 yards away depending on the area where I am standing to record. I know that most shotguns are really only designed for maybe 20 feet or so... but there must be a way to record more distant sounds like this as when I watch television broadcasts of boat or car races... the passing sounds and the engines sound full, loud, and vibrant. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!!!
Hi John! Most of the sounds you hear on tv are added during post production by sound engineers to create a perfect scene. As long as its not live of course. In games etc they using parabolic dish mics. Maybe that’s something you should look into as well. You can record sounds that are far away. Pretty cool stuff.
Great video! Seems like an amazing microphone, would you recommend this over a pair of DPA 4060 mics for ambience and SFX recording? I like how easy the 4025 is to setup but the DPA mics seem more versatile. Thanks!
Hi two questions, what do you think about this mic for recording percussive sounds? Like hitting random objects and micing it. Have you ever used sm7b and how do you think that does compared to 4025? Thanks
Hello Erick. I never used the sm7b so I can;t share an opinion but you can use this mic for percussion sounds. The SPL is really good for that microphone but the frequenzy response is not that great like a MKH 8040 for example.
@@FreeToUseSounds cool. Yes I asked this question midway through while watching the vid until I realized at the end there were some really good sort of percussive sounds you recorded haha Thanks!
Hi again Marcel..can I ask 2 questions...1) Could this mic be used mounted on the camera? Maybe would need a more compact form of wind protection in that context? 2) Do you recommend the 25mm BBG diameter? Thanks so much!
Hi Matthew! This microphone doesn't have an inbuilt battery. Does your camera provide enough phantom power? The AT 8022 is the one with battery and it comes with an XLR to 3.5 cable. About the basket. Always check the recommended size from the supplier. Rycote used 21mm.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for reply! I can run it into my Mix Pre 6.. but could consider 8022 if quality is still ok. I've also wondered if this mic might be too bulky on top of camera by the time I add the wind protection.. versus a Sennheiser mke 400. Do you ever use it on your camera.. or something else for run and gun type needs? Just debating between these options.. or maybe I get both! One for camera and the 4025 for field recording. Ps Thanks for your recordings ..currently using Indonesia ones for Foley on a not for profit charity video re supporting a village there! Great work.
@@MatthewPolack The Sennheiser is awesome! We don't use it for talking but overall recording. We did the Sounds of travel video with it. The 4025 on top of a camera is heavy. Maybe the BBG could also great a shadow. So glad to hear that you like the sounds. We're currently in Surabaya :)
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks so much! Think I'm leaning towards the Sennheiser as the main camera mic...and the 4025 for what it is better suited..field recording. Enjoy Surabaya...hopefully might see you in Australia sometime! :)
@@FreeToUseSounds Hey there again Marcel. Just an update...ordered this mic on your recommendation...you are indeed correct...it is remarkable! (Am using it into my Mix Pre 6 gen 1)... I don't think I've ever quite heard sound so clearly...it actually becomes like a 'superpower' hearing sounds I can't hear through my ears! The other amazing thing is how quiet it is from a self noise perspective...other mics have always got a tiny hiss...or a hum..or a something...this mic just appears virtually silent. Thanks so much for the strong recommendation...also your hint on the stereo linking with the Pre in another video. Will now explore sound effect creation! Thank you!
I would like to record the morning chorus of bird sounds in my backyard and post them on youtube. Is the "AUDIO TECHNICA BP4025" an excellent microphone to use for recording the morning chorus of many birds ? ( I dont want to record a specific bird just all the birds singing in my backyard which is next to a forest )
What size BBG are you using for this microphone? Rycote's own website recommends 21mm, your link sends to 25mm, and I've read that some people say the 21 is a little too tight, and that 22mm is the better option. Just wanna make sure I get the right one haha
Hello, I’m completely new at this. Thank you for this review. According to you does this ATechnica mic sound better than the build in stereo mic on a Zoom H6 for example to record light nature ambiance like soft stream of water, light breeze, birds... Since I just need to record from time to time for my own personal use, would you advise me to purchase this mic with a H6 or maybe it would work fine on a H4n? I just don’t about the preamps as well. Hope you can answer question. Thank you.
Hi Sylvain. Thank you for your message and yes the AT 4025 is a huge improvement to the XY capsule but if you don't use it very often you have to decide if you want to spend that kind of money on it. It also works fine on the H4n if you have this recorder already.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you very much for your answers. You're the best channel about field recording, honestly. Since I will mainly be capturing soft ambiance sound (nature mainly), I won't need a lot of bass for example. So I think I will just purchase the H6 and stick with the XY capsule unless you advise the M/S capsule for this kind of use??? And of course, I'll use your amazon link ;)
Oh the new H6 release 2020 doesn’t come with the MS capsule anymore so if you want, look into the H8 and if the new capsules coming out for this one, you have more future options.
Love your channel! I have been using the Zoom H4n Pro to record ambient sound fx for short films and recently I have noticed when the gain is turned up high their is a lot of pre-amp hiss introduced into my recordings. I'm thinking of getting an external x-y mic such as the BP4025 and running that through a Cloud Lifter to get super clean recordings. Do you use 1 XLR input into your zoom device from the BP4025 to get stereo recordings? I'm trying to find out to use 1 of the inputs on the Zoom H4N to record stereo via an external mic but can't seem to find an answer. I'm now doubting it has the capabilities and may look into investing in a Zoom F6 or H8. Keep the videos coming!
Hi Jamie! Yes, that can happen but has nothing really to do with the recorder itself. It's about operating the gain control in different environments. If you are in a quiet space like a forest or you record sounds in empty streets, don't force the sound to sound loud. Always listen with your ears first, put on your headphones, and adjust the gain until you hear the hiss. Then lower it until it disappears and start recording. Not sure if you can find a 5 pin XLR cloud filter. The AT 4025 is a stereo microphone with a 5 pin XLR. That means you have a 5 pin connection on the microphone and the cable splits into a 3 pin XLR left and right. The 5 pin XLR cable is included if you buy the 4025 and that saves you some money. I do prefer Mogami cold because lower quality cables can create noise as well. If you use one XLR input on the recorder you get a mono signal.
Hi Marcel! Thanks for the great videos. I am very new to field recording and not understanding how the mic is connected to the recorder. I have a zoom h5 and the at bp4025. Do I need to use an xlr splitter or can I use a single xlr cable? Thanks so much. Best wishes, Hannah
Hello Hanna! The AT 4025 comes with the 5 pin to 2x 2 pin XLR. Did you not receive the cable? It should be with in the box. If you have you just use the two channels and link channel 1+2 in the menu.
@@FreeToUseSounds I got it second hand and unfortunately it didn’t include the cable. I was considering making an xlr splitter using Mogami 2534 (which would need two lengths of cable) or a bonded Mogami shotgun cable. But I’m not certain if the cable signal needs to be split or just a single input?
Just to explain that I’m cycling around the world so being extra weight conscious which is why I’m curious about avoiding using two lengths of cable...
@@RolandoMundo oh no!! Yes I have a Mogami too made by Cinela. I ordered two. If you have an pro audio store near you, they can make this in no time as long ad they have the connections too.
Great video and great sounding mic. In fact i ordered this mic after watching this video several times. I'm currently using an H4n Pro, but I can't get the results I want when it comes to recording ambience, so I'm looking to upgrade that as well. Either an F3, or if can stretch the budget further, an F6. From a relative beginner's perspective, which one would recommend? I might add that I have a Sennheiser MKE that i intend to use as well. Thanks for another awesome video.
I was going to say F3 but then you mentioned the MKE and I definitely can think of scenarios where I'd like to plug in my MKE 600 and a 4025 (which I'm here to evaluate for purchase) simultaneously. I run an F8 and would probably trade it for an F6. Never know what additional gear you might want to add and plug in down the line.
@@Casual_Everything thanks for reporting back, sounds like a great kit without too much bulk. I checked your channel in case you'd done any video with it - you should do another backyard ambience one with this setup!
@@TigDegner I havn't been very active on TH-cam, but that might change (have a few ideas I want to try). The backyard recordings I've made with the F6 and BP4025 have ended up being disappointing because of all the traffic noice the mic is able to pick up. I am trying to find better places to record though.
Love your videos! I’m torn on what to purchase. I’d love to record the low rumbles of a storm as well as birds. Also like the idea of “binaural” ... any suggestions on a kit less than 1200 US? Be nice to use it when we film weddings too (we use witless Xlr system) as well as a rare 2-4 person podcast. Low self noise is a must.
Hi Justin, you can us any kind of omnidirectional microphones. I do have the DPA 4060 and used them in the past to record ambience but you can use them also for binaural recordings and of course lavaliers
You don't seem to be interested in M-S recording for stereo: the possibility of choosing your recording field in post-treatment isn't a valuable thing for you?
Not really. MS never really interested me. Decoding etc. I like to keep things simple but I do think that MS recordings can be very useful. Especially if you want to go for 5.1.
I just bought this microphone used for about $200 off. Can't wait for it to arrive! It should be the perfect solution for ambient field recording in the city.
This microphone has 14db of self noise, and I think it's just fine. I think many times they are trying to sell us the low noise retoric and most of the times it all has pros and cons, for instance this one holds up to 155db spl, 20db over the lewitt 540s. IMHO It's more important to have more dynamic range and avoid (at all cost) distortion at the mic level, because 32bits are not going to save your there. Further more, it's also important how to use the mic and capture the sound, than just take numbers like the noise floor if you, for instance, end up capturing loud sources. I think that even the 32bits are more important than the self noise of a condenser IMHO
Discovery, adventure, and wonder - love it.
Thank you :) Always nice knowing you enjoy the video.
This is a very compact solution for ambience recording. Though the stereo width is lesser comparing to omni spaced pair but it is most compact setup and great for portable. I`d love to buy this microphone someday
Thank you again Jahnab! That means a lot. Yes the stereo image is more narrow but as you said, its super portable and quick to set up.
Ha, I like the spirit of capturing/ recording just what's there. Not sth unnaturally polished, but just natural everyday noises. Once you start to become aware, there is always a "landscape" of sound almost everywhere. Grüßle aus Berlin
Ohh Berlin is the right place!! :) So many great sounds!
Watching the harbor location I heard a voice behind me and actually turned around to see who it was! That's good imaging.
I have the setup that you talk of here and it's great, thanks for sharing this! One enhancement that I made, the included cable is 16.5 feet long and i cut it up into two sections: a 5.5 foot and and an 11 foot cable, and I use the more manageable 5.5 foot section most the time and it's far easier to handle.
Ah nice! That's a great way to save money on cables too.
Just found this video, interesting as the 4025 has been my go to X/Y field mic for several years now. I also use the 4029 M/S shotgun on occasion. Both are very good for the money. I use the same Rycote pistol mount and BBG windscreen as you. I flipped the rubber friction mount in the BBG around 180 deg to give a bit more room inside the BBG so the front of the 4025 has a little more air space. I noticed you had the mic in the mount backwards (according the the arrow on the mount) but maybe you did that to make the mic stick out farther. I also noticed you had the K-Tek internal boom cable plugged onto the stereo mic. Did you re-wire the boom with 5-pin XLR connectors and cable for stereo or did you buy it that way? This video is two years old and you have moved on to the Schoeps DMS system but for $649 it is hard to the beat the sound you got from the 4025.
Bought one. B&H was out so I went straight to Mfr and ordered. Sounds great and can hardly wait. Thx for the review.
Great to hear that Ernie.
Well...I’m now the proud owner of one 🎤 You got me into the F6 and now this wonderful mic 👍
That’s so awesome to know!! :) It’s a great setup.
@@FreeToUseSounds ...thanks 🙏 Could I beg a question of you? Q...when you connect this mic via the 2 XLR’s to the Zoom F6 do you put the 48v phantom power it requires through both or just one?
@@soundhobo Always both on because you are still connected to track 01 and 02.
@@FreeToUseSounds ...thank you 🙏 Very much appreciated 👍
@@soundhobo A pleasure!
Jetzt aber ab ins Bettchen mit euch :) Vielen Dank für den Test. Bin erst am Anfang des Videos und sehr gespannt. Lasst es euch gut gehen.
Edit: Sehr natürlicher Sound und überraschend viel Breite für ein XY-Mikrofon.
Ha Ha Ha :) okay machen wir. Mussten das Video nochmals neu mischen und hochladen. Waren heute „nur“ 16 Stunden. Morgen Früh geht es dann Richtung Puls von Split. Viel Spaß beim schauen und Good Night. :)
I would really love to see episode about F6 + various microphone options for recording directional birds vocalizations. Great content audio and video, you both are very inspiring, thank you.
I advise you to try recording on sound devices 744T 24/96 for better quality and preservation of all microdynamics due to better preamps
No way I would go back to 24bit
Agree! Just purchased BP4025👍. Pleased as punch! What boom pole do you use? Looks well made?
Hi Mark! That’s the K-Tek Klassic Pro Boom Pole. Carbon and with a 5 pin XLR to 3 pin XLR
its lovely recording and i love how passionate you are about your work which is clearly outstanding. I just wouldn't call this a budget option :)
That is a beautifully sounding mic! Next on my purchase list now!
Great choice Eric! You won't regret it!
Love my 4025. So quiet and the stereo imaging is impressive. Thanks for sharing!!!
Glad you like it!
Wow that reverb at the end is so cool! U got me interested to get one of these AT4025. Thanks!
That is awesome! Yes the 4025 is great.
Hey, amazing video, I have a question though. Would a stereo mic like this one be good for doing doc-like work, travel video, shooting out in your environment. I make a lot of videos where I’m outside and I’d like to record things like the waves, trees bristling in the wind, people walking etc, and I’m confused whether I should use an stereo mic like this or a standard shotgun on-camera.
Would love your advice and recommendations.
Thank You for the review! Bought the same mic after whatching it.
Ah nice! Its really awesome! Make sure you get wind protection too!
oh thanks a lot... iam waiting for this review very long. i newly upgraded to a used zoom f4 and i love it.... so next step maybe is the bp4025. you have a realy nice chanel. keep going.
Hi! Oh nice... I had the F4 as well and it’s a nice recorder. Thank you so much for watching.
Super review guysss! If someone is interested in this microphone, you can find it also on Thomann for €535, just checked this morning ahah! Big up from Trieste (IT), always an inspiration
Oh Trieste? We are not far from there later. We heading to Pula. :). I ordered the Rycote from Thomann and yes they are great and have always some good offers.
@@FreeToUseSounds Yesss, we're are close! Pula is a super cool city with great spot where to capture sounds! There's a cool spot for reverbs (if I remember correctly). Is the so-called Zerostrasse. A series of tunnels built to protect Pula citizens during air raids during World War.
@@TommasoGobbo Oh nice! I make sure to check that out :)
thanks for the review ! Are you obliged to put foam on the mic when you use the babyball + deadcat? cheers from Brussels!
Hi Marcel. I love the 4025, it's a great microphone. I was just wondering about your experience with the Rycote BBG. I have bought 2, in the correct size which is 21mm, but I found the fit of the grommet so tight that the first bbg broke while I was putting it on the microphone, and the second one was also extremely tight and I had to return it. Did you use the 21mm or did you go for the larger 22mm size? Thanks
Hello, I’m really impressed by your work.
Have you checked out the AT BP4029 Stereo Shotgun at all? Cheers
Holy moly! No I haven't at and this was never on my radar. I make more research about it.
Would it be a good pair with a Zoom F3 (32 Bit), or would you recommend something different (I'm just getting started) - Thanks! Just love your obvious passion & joy for what you do!
Hi! The Zoom F3 is great for it for sure.
How are you liking the M30x compared to the MD7506? :o I hadn't noticed the change until I watched this again!
Yes I bought the AT here in Zagreb because I the cable broke. I just don't like the spiral cable from the Sony. It drives me nuts but they both very similar. The AT fit better around my head and ears.
Great mic with cool features, great price also but unfortunately no money to buy it :(
Thank you for the video and the sounds!
Thank you so much for watching and someday you have it!
Thank you for posting this review and recording tests! Did you put the Rycote BBG and windjammer on at the same time along with the foam? Is there any difference in quality if one those elements is removed on a windless day? thank you!
Hi Jeff! Yes in this video I had the foam on the microphone too. If there is no wind I recommend not using the windjammer. The foam and the BBG are enough. Friends told me that, if I use the Cinela Albert together with the wind protection I loose quality in the low ends. I assume that could happen with this setup too.
Hi there which rycote shock Mount do you have the model please thank you 🙂
Thanks for the great content. I have watched this video and the extensive one on the
Thanks for watching Terry.
Hi there sounds great 😊 Looking for a mic set. So Just one question. Does this mic do better as a standalone mic for ambience recording or would a pair do even better for stereo listening experience. Like the DPA’s or a pair of MKH’s?
Hi! It's a great microphone, but to find out which stereo microphone kit you like, you need to understand the difference between the different recording techniques. This microphone is XY, but there are also ORTF, NOS, A-B, MS, DMS, Blumlein and binaural stereo. So, knowing this, you need to know which microphones are made for the recording technique of your choice. Then you need to learn more about the characteristics (polar pattern) of the microphones . When you know all of this, you will know which microphone is best for you.
Thanks for sending me this way towards this microphone, this type of info is truly so valuable. Thanks heaps!😀 SUBBED. After watching this I feel that I have so much to learn now haha,,not sure if I can afford that with a zoom f6 though. I need to start off slowly and work my way into it. Any other vids on your channel for beginners recording nature sounds, waves, river, creeks, birds things like that?
Thanks again
Marty
Glad to hear that Marty! :)
What a great sound recording adventure! ✨ Thanks for this video!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing vid, just subscribed. I have kind of a noob question - you have Both a foam windscreen and the fluffy Rycote wind screen. I realize you want them to reduce wind noise and protection, but wouldn't it actually sound better without either one? Bare mic direct recording without any filters?
Thank you, Mike! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for subscribing!
While it's true that using a bare microphone without any filters might seem like it would provide a clearer sound, in reality, wind can significantly distort audio recordings. Many microphones on their own don't have built-in protection against wind. Without a foam windscreen or a fluffy windscreen, strong wind can not only distort the sound but also potentially damage the microphone's membranes. Additionally, wind can carry dust and other particles that could get into the microphone and destroy it over time. Recording close to the sea with salt in the air and not using protective material is really not a good idea. :)
So, these windscreens are essential for protecting the microphone and ensuring the best possible audio quality in various environments, especially outdoors.
Hope that helps clarify!
Hi Marcel! I am purchasing the BP4025 soon, but I would like to know what size/diameter of the rycote bbg in the video you bought for yours. You know the sizes are different on the Thomann website (20mm, 21mm, 22mm, and 25mm), so I would like to know which fits best. Thanks. Samuel.
I believe I have the 21mm version but check B&H. They have it on the page.
Supergreat Review and Video like always!
Thank you so much for watching and your feedback!
hi, what do you think about startin (because of low budget) with Deity microphone (D3 PRO?) instead of this? what's the main differences with such different prices? do you think is better to save money instead? I want to do field recording, sound design with it. thanks! Or another option for me was to buy for now some usi pro (or clippy) and start with them first and then buy a shotgun mic...
D3 is good for starting!
This mic sounds great, thanks for the great video! Did you apply any EQ in post? I have an Audio Technica shotgun mic, which I love, but always reach for some HF in post to brighten it up a bit.
Hi Chris! No EQ in that Video and also not for the sound samples. You can check them out how I have recorded them. :)
@@FreeToUseSounds amazing! Thanks for the reply! I'll check them out.
Amazing sound!!! As you say: clear and crispy. nice!!!
Thank you for watching Leonardo and sorry for the wrong mono upload before.
Hello! As a result of your super video, I ordered a BP4025 microphone. For a dish that is just baking and blushing, how far do you suggest you put the microphone? It’s the goose of a dish fried in an average pan. In close proximity to shotgon microphones?
Hi Gábor..I'm not sure if I understand you right but as it translated it sounds like you want to bake a goose in a pan?
Awsome channel ! You are such inspirationnal individuals !!
Do you think the 4025 could be good for recording indoors meditative music too ?
I'd love to have a mic that could do indoors and field recording...
I know that the answer is probably to have 2 different mics but...
Hi! Thank you so much for your kind words and support! Regarding the 4025 microphone, it can be used indoors as well. While it might not perform exactly like a large diaphragm microphone when recording indoor, it's a versatile piece of equipment that should work decently for both indoor and field recordings. It's always nice to have specialized mics for different scenarios, but the 4025 can be a great all-rounder if you're looking for a single solution.
@@FreeToUseSounds Big thanks for responding and so quickly !
Have a great life ! You are very generous and positive, it's a pleasure to follow you adventures!
Looks like you had to do a custom cable run for your boom through the K-Tek pole? Usually the side exit is a 3 pin not a 5 pin.
K Tek made that customized cable and the 5 pin box
Hi Marcel! Thanks to your videos I just upgraded to the F6 and now I need one great mic. (Sold my H6 to upgrade to H8, then sold that to upgrade to F6 so now the only field recording mics I have are stereo omni lavs.) For one mic to get me going would you recommend the BP4025 or the Rode NT SF1? Thanks, Marcel!
Hi Bekah! Hmm the AT 4025 is a great microphone but I wouldn't compare it to the NT-SF1 because its just a different type of mic. You need to decide if you need four channel recordings (ambisonic) for your work or not. Of course with the NT-SF1 and the plugin you can create unique and different stereo files and you can create 5.1, 7.1 etc with it. It all sounds great but do you need it is the questions? Keep in mind for the AT 4025 you need extra wind protection and a good mount. Rycote has the BBG but also a different blimp. With the second option you are beyond $1100 and the NT-SF1 has everything included for $1000. I'm recording with the NT-SF1 currently almost every day around Denver and I like the quality. What I'm not really a fan of is the windjammer. Low winds is alright but for high winds its not very useful. I might get a Rycote Cyclon for it and solve the problem. Its not cheap and more weight.
@@FreeToUseSounds Excellent info, thank you so much!
@@bek-original Pleasure! :)
You convinced me to get this microphone. What is the make and model of the grey ball that fits over the foam. Could not make it out from the video. Keep the great videos coming.
Ah yes.. This is the Rycote BBG with the Furry. Make sure you order the correct diameter because they have different sizes.
Hi Marcel, firstly thank you so for all of your and Libby's videos they're amazing and I appreciate them so much. I'm very interested in the audio Technica BP4025, however, I was interested if you knew if it fit inside the Rycote super blimp (specifically for the NTG5)? If you're not sure that's totally fine, just thought I'd ask :) thanks!
Hi Barney, I do have the super blimp as well and yes it fits but the main issue is the weight of the AT 4025. The clips are not strong enough. So you would need some that are much stronger. 4 Clips wouldn't work because the mic is not long enough.
@@FreeToUseSounds Ahh that makes sense I hadn't even considered weight aha! You don't happen to know if Rycote sell stronger clips? If they don't I might just get the wind protection you recommend in this video :) was just hoping I could use what I had already for the time being aha.
@@barneyandrews7536 Hmm, I don't think they have. I also use longer holding rack and thats even not strong enough. The problem with the NTG system is that it doesn't has a rail with several screws to mount the holders. You only have the designated clip options. Rycote has an extra Modular Windshield WS 3 Kit (XLR-5F) but thats another $620 on B and H.
@@FreeToUseSounds Ah I see, I reckon I'll just get what you recommended in the video then :) thanks so much for your replies, I really appreciate you giving the time! Keep up the awesome work!
@@barneyandrews7536 glad I could help and make sure you order the right BBG with the diameter.
Thanks! Audio-Technica BP4025 awesome! How many degrees the angle of X/Y stereo microphones?
Have you checked the data sheet of the microphone?
@@FreeToUseSounds I found it)) 120-degree stereo angle)
Thanx for the review! Seems like an awesome mic. I have a H6 with the SGH-6 shotgun mic. The furry wind protection that comes with it is really bad. Any suggestions? Do you complement the Audio-Technica with a shotgun mic when recording smaller things outside to reduce the surronding sounds?
I have the Deity Smic 2S but to be honest I don't use it too often. I focus more on the ambience and not on smaller objects or recording in mono. I know its good but its just something I don't really do. Wind protection the SGH?
Ah, ok I see :) Yes, something for the SGH that is better than the one that comes with it. Sooner or later I'll buy something like the Audio-Technica. The BBG looks really neat and not as clumpsy as a blimp.
@@Metzok Rycote should do the trick but not sure if you like to spend this amount of money for it.
mymic.rycote.com/devices/sgh-6-shotgun-mic-capsule/
Oh nice, many thanx! You guys are truly an inspiration. Got off the couch and recorded some water sounds along a pier today.
@@Metzok You are so welcome I hope you got some really cool recordings!
Love the review and test. How do you find the Rode Stereo VideoMic X is against this?
Thank you. I never used the X so I can’t give you an opinion about it.
So cool. Quick question though: Considering that it's a 1 output jack that's stereo, can you use it on the Zoom F3 (1 input only) and still have a stereo track? I hope this question makes sense.
I'm asking this because I'm planning to use a Zoom F3 rig with one mono shotgun mic (input 1) and one stereo mic in (input 2). If I we use the AT4025 or AT822 for this setup, would the F3's input 2 provide a stereo file?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can help me out with this question.
Hi Vince! "Unfortunately, this won't work. The stereo cable left and right have 3-pin XLR on both sides, while the connector on the boom has a 5-pin. The cable splits the 5-pin into left and right. The same with microphone. It has a 5 pin connector.
Hey! Great video! One question - the microphone has a 5 pin XLRM - and your boom pole - 3 pin. How do you connect it to keep the channels separate on the output?
I responded on IG.
Agreed, I would like to see the answer as well.
The IG answer was that K-Tek supplied a custom cable.
Great sounds, the microphone sounds great!
Thank you! Yes it is a great microphone.
Wonderful productions! Recommended mount for DSLR, perhaps in case and short XLR cables to MixPre underneath? Need quality stereo with wind protection with direction following camera (solo shooter)..
Hi Henrik, you could look into the Audio Technica stereo shotgun microphone AT835ST For this you could use a Rycote classic softie kit. You can find it on the Rycote website. Just click on “search for microphone” and use AT835ST. For the cables you probably need to find somebody who can shorten this for you.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for the advice. Can you, or someone else, judge how well the Rode Stereo Videomic X is? It seems easy to mount on camera. I can use it with minijack direct in DSLR or via phantom power mini XLR if I want to have my MixPre with me for better preamps. But how does it compare to BP4025... Can't find many reviews with comparisons on this Rode X model.
@@henrikolsen5 I heard good things about it but never had it myself.
Your channel is such a treasure trove of inspiration. Question for you: Do you use the hand clap to sync your videos or are you using an external device, like a Deity TC-1 for timecode? I've invested in the Deity system and hope it turns out to be a wise choice. I do some multi camera video, which is the main reason for the timecode system but, have played with feeding one of the TC-1s into my X8.
Hi Alan, we don't use time code. But you may want to look into the Ambient NanoLockit. Very small and not heavy
Grrr, now I want one... 😋
I didn't known this particular mike: it seems sooo good! Fantastic specifications for sure: seems very valuable for this price, a real bargain.
I own several microphones, corresponding to various uses, but no stereo one like this. The 120° axis of the capsules looks like a sort of mix between ORTF and XY stereophony : have you a feeling of hole in the center of the scenes you record or not at all?
I used to record music representations of my children at the conservatory in ORTF mode with a cheap Behringer B5 cardioid pair (or Sennheiser ME-64 sometimes) and was very pleased with the results... But this set is not very practical for field recording. So I've acquired a Shure VP-88 for this use which I do love a lot: it's a very versatile tough M-S Mike which allows me to choose the size of my stereo field directly on the Mike (Small, Medium or Large) or later in post-processing with a perfect mono compatibility for radio use because of the cardioid center capsule. But it suffers of a very high self-noise level and mere dynamic, limiting its use for quiet ambiances... (Maybe I should try adding feat-head preamps?)
So I recently bought a 2d hand Pearl MSH-10: another very expensive but high quality tiny M-S micro for stereo recording. Not ever used it but it should be wonderful for field recording... And I've found a 2d one I intend to use in double M-S mode to try some 5.1 recordings I could listen in my home cinema: it should be great if I succeed!
I'd love to add the BP-4025 alongside to this one to compare the results nevertheless: 2 complementaries micro for stereo recordings. The Audio Technica is for sure a clear winner to avoid clipping, considering its 145 dB spl (and even 155 using the pad) plugged in the F6 and its dreaming 32 bits, but being able to choose your stereo size is such a great specification too... I just want them both! 😁
Congrats for your job Marcel (and Libby of course), love to look at your videos. Keep going on man! You'll be welcome if you come near Toulouse (FR) 🥂
Hi and sorry for the late response. Oh yes the AT 4025 is a wonderful sounding microphone. No hole or anything. I don't think they would release a product that would create such thing.
@@FreeToUseSounds thanks for your response 👍
Hi Marcel, first of all thanks for all the great content. I wanted to ask your input on using the AT 4025 with the H6, specially for ambient recordings. I mean, I've heard the H6 gets noisy for these kind of recordings as you have to kick the gain, but I wanted to ask if the 4025 might make up for that. Thanks.
Yeah don’t listen to all the noise. The H6 is fine and you don’t have to kick anything. The AT 4025 is definitely a step up in the right direction.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for your answer! So from your experience the h6 is not noisy? Just 2 more questions. Is the 4025 waterproof? I saw you put quite near to the water. And do you also think the h6 would go well with the lom geofom?
@@joseugalde3192 yes I can tell you from my experience that I had the H6 for lots of my sound recordings in the beginning until I moved up to different recording devices. Oh no the microphone is not waterproof. So be careful :) yes the H6 works with the H6 as well. No pp required.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks!
Do you use the Rycote BBG and Rycote Windjammer at the same time?
Hi Tim, yes I do when its to windy.
@@FreeToUseSounds thanks for responding! That means a lot and you just got yourself a sub for your efforts!
Hi, great video, but WHICH mic you would recommend for recording (indood) sounds from TIBETIAN BOWLS? :) Thanks for your answer!
Hi! You can use this microphone for indoor recordings as well. But since these bowls create high frequenzies, I would use the Sennheiser MKH 8040 or even an Sanken C0100K. Or check out Earthworks Audio. Amazing microphones.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks a milion for you quick answer, but is there also a budget option - around 250euros? 😀
@@WindowOfHappiness Many budget options are available in this price range. Maybe look into Line Audio. Is a Swedish company and I heard good things about it.
Hi! I just bought the AT4025 but I’m still deciding which recorder to buy between the F3 and F6. Would you recommend the F3 if I didn’t need that 6-Input? Thank you so much! Been binge-watching your videos to increase my knowledge on field recording! ❤
Hi there,
First off, thank you so much for binge-watching our videos! We're thrilled that they're helping you on your field recording journey! ❤️
Now, regarding your question, both the F3 and F6 are excellent choices, and the right one for you really depends on your specific needs and preferences. If you don't see yourself needing the extra inputs that the F6 offers in the future and would prefer a smaller, more cost-effective recorder, then the F3 could very well be the better choice.
It's also worth noting that the price of the F6 has increased over the past couple of years. We have a friend in Japan who uses the AT 4025 with the F3 and loves this compact setup.
@@FreeToUseSounds F3 it is then! Appreciate your quick response! Thank you and can’t wait for your channel to be bigger!
Perfect :) As long as we're reaching people who are genuinely interested in field recording and providing them with valuable content, we'll continue doing what we love. Thanks for your kind words and support, it truly means a lot! Happy field recording! 😊
and thanks for the review!
Thanks for watching :)
You may have already answered this question somewhere in the comments but I could not find the answer. How do you attach the five pin XLR Male output of the microphone to a three pin boom pole cable? I see you have some sort of an adapter in one part of the video but I can’t tell what it is and I don’t see it listed in the parts.
Hi! This boom pole had a 5 pin adapter but it started to create some really weird crackle sounds and I stopped using it. Maybe KTek solved that issue already. You can get this boom pole with a five pin.
You have the most exciting job!
It has been a great journey so far but it wasn’t always the case. Actually today we released a new podcast talking about failures and the biggest risk.
@@FreeToUseSounds thank you guys for all your hard work! I will check the podcast out!
@@clifvage Thank you!
What bitrates would you normally record at,assume the lowest would be 44khz at 16bit? CD quality
No I don’t record as such low bitrate. Think about sound design. I always record at 192-32 or 96-32 or 96-24.
Thanks again for this review..you've certainly put this mic on my radar! Do you think this would work on a boom pole for sit down interviews as well...above the talent...or would you also need a dedicated shotgun for something like that? Thanks!
Hi Matthew! Oh yes that would work too but since its XY you definitely pick up more room tone or distance ambiences.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you! At my school where I work..we just used a Rode Shotgun mic for an interview..and it did a great job above...I can see there is a place for lots of mics!! I like the idea of the stereo recordingt though for ambience. Anyway thanks for making me aware of the Audio Technica...seems lke a great option for ambience and sound effects. Thank you.
Bonjour pourquoi avoir éclater un ballon à la fin de la vidéo .Pour la réverbération ? Je suis débutant et je ne comprends pas bien !
Audio technica BP4025 or SAAM in terms of both stereo image and sound quality in general?
I like the sound of the SAAM but its way to big, hard to carry and has no real wind protection.
Hi - I used this mic in very windy conditions with the blimp/dead cat that I usually use for my shotgun mono mic. There was a large amount of wind noise on the recording, which surprised me. Are stereo mics generally more sensitive to wind than mono mics? And which blimp set-up would you recommend for this mic when recording in windy conditions? Thanks for any advice you might be able to provide.
What Blimp/ Dead cat are you using?
@@FreeToUseSounds I used Rode Blimp MkII and the standard dead cat (can't see the exact brand on the label).
@@redharemedia1034 Well Rode isn't something I would use to be honest. I love Cinela and Rycote.
Hello, thanks for the video!! Do you know if the Audio Technica 4025 is compatible with the Rode PG2R?
Hi Marco, do you have the PG2R with the two ring holders? If yes, then the AT is too heavy to that.
@@FreeToUseSounds Hey Marcel thanks for the advice!
@@marcotabacchi4601 You're very welcome.
I'm often surprised how much I enjoy ambient recordings. As you say, they're quite relaxing. How would you compare the recordings you get with this mic to an ORTF setup with 2 separate mics? I'm considering this or a pair of Rode NT5s.
Hi Alan. Of course the ORTF with the Sennheiser 8040 I use is another world. The sound field feels more natural to my ears. When I had AB setups I used USI Pro or DPA omnis what what great so I wonder how 8050 would sound like in a ln ORTF angle. Not sure how the NT5 would sound like but I assume these are a nice pair.
Good Afternoon everyone! Does anyone have any ideas on what would be the best way to record audio of passing boats or cars that are at a distance? I currently use a mid level Sony shotgun mic on my pro Panasonic 4K video camera... but can't seem to get good clear audio levels when I film them. The distance varies of the cars and boats that I am filming... but typically I would estimate that they are anywhere from 20 to 100 yards away depending on the area where I am standing to record. I know that most shotguns are really only designed for maybe 20 feet or so... but there must be a way to record more distant sounds like this as when I watch television broadcasts of boat or car races... the passing sounds and the engines sound full, loud, and vibrant. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!!!
Hi John! Most of the sounds you hear on tv are added during post production by sound engineers to create a perfect scene. As long as its not live of course. In games etc they using parabolic dish mics. Maybe that’s something you should look into as well. You can record sounds that are far away. Pretty cool stuff.
Great video! Seems like an amazing microphone, would you recommend this over a pair of DPA 4060 mics for ambience and SFX recording? I like how easy the 4025 is to setup but the DPA mics seem more versatile. Thanks!
Oh yes I would because of the reason you mentioned.
Please review BBG 21+windscreen. I consider to buy it for my bp4025.
Hi Alexandr.. I use this model in this video and its fine if the wind isn't Iceland strong. :)
Hi two questions, what do you think about this mic for recording percussive sounds? Like hitting random objects and micing it. Have you ever used sm7b and how do you think that does compared to 4025? Thanks
Hello Erick. I never used the sm7b so I can;t share an opinion but you can use this mic for percussion sounds. The SPL is really good for that microphone but the frequenzy response is not that great like a MKH 8040 for example.
@@FreeToUseSounds cool. Yes I asked this question midway through while watching the vid until I realized at the end there were some really good sort of percussive sounds you recorded haha Thanks!
Hi, which ShockMount with handle/ Softie is it please?
And does it need an adaptator or something?
Thanks :)
Hi there! Oh the one I used here is not the correct one. The microphone is too heavy for it.
@@FreeToUseSounds ok thanks for your fast answer. Which one would you recommend then?
@@bananasqueen Good question.
@@FreeToUseSounds Would also like to know which shock mount! Thanks
Hi again Marcel..can I ask 2 questions...1) Could this mic be used mounted on the camera? Maybe would need a more compact form of wind protection in that context? 2) Do you recommend the 25mm BBG diameter? Thanks so much!
Hi Matthew! This microphone doesn't have an inbuilt battery. Does your camera provide enough phantom power? The AT 8022 is the one with battery and it comes with an XLR to 3.5 cable.
About the basket. Always check the recommended size from the supplier. Rycote used 21mm.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks for reply! I can run it into my Mix Pre 6.. but could consider 8022 if quality is still ok. I've also wondered if this mic might be too bulky on top of camera by the time I add the wind protection.. versus a Sennheiser mke 400. Do you ever use it on your camera.. or something else for run and gun type needs? Just debating between these options.. or maybe I get both! One for camera and the 4025 for field recording. Ps Thanks for your recordings ..currently using Indonesia ones for Foley on a not for profit charity video re supporting a village there! Great work.
@@MatthewPolack The Sennheiser is awesome! We don't use it for talking but overall recording. We did the Sounds of travel video with it. The 4025 on top of a camera is heavy. Maybe the BBG could also great a shadow. So glad to hear that you like the sounds. We're currently in Surabaya :)
@@FreeToUseSounds Thanks so much! Think I'm leaning towards the Sennheiser as the main camera mic...and the 4025 for what it is better suited..field recording. Enjoy Surabaya...hopefully might see you in Australia sometime! :)
@@FreeToUseSounds Hey there again Marcel. Just an update...ordered this mic on your recommendation...you are indeed correct...it is remarkable! (Am using it into my Mix Pre 6 gen 1)... I don't think I've ever quite heard sound so clearly...it actually becomes like a 'superpower' hearing sounds I can't hear through my ears! The other amazing thing is how quiet it is from a self noise perspective...other mics have always got a tiny hiss...or a hum..or a something...this mic just appears virtually silent. Thanks so much for the strong recommendation...also your hint on the stereo linking with the Pre in another video. Will now explore sound effect creation! Thank you!
I would like to record the morning chorus of bird sounds in my backyard and post them on youtube. Is the "AUDIO TECHNICA BP4025" an excellent microphone to use for recording the morning chorus of many birds ? ( I dont want to record a specific bird just all the birds singing in my backyard which is next to a forest )
Sure it is.
What size BBG are you using for this microphone? Rycote's own website recommends 21mm, your link sends to 25mm, and I've read that some people say the 21 is a little too tight, and that 22mm is the better option. Just wanna make sure I get the right one haha
He mentioned 21mm in a comment from another person asked down below yours.
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is that usefull to get an Audio-Technica BP4025 even if I already have a Zoom H5 with stereo XY ?
Oh yes. It will bring up the sound quality to another level.
You should try the Røde NT4. I Love it.
Oh yes I heard good things about it but after getting the Emesser and Schoeps, I think I'm done buying microphones for a little bit :)
@@FreeToUseSounds 😁 You have to use Them too!
Now, let`s see who gets their Emesser First!
@@larserikertzgaardringen7426 I think you are before me because you ordered them first. First come, first serve :)
Hi, another mic like the BP 4025? Just for curiosity. :)
Hi Martin, The Røde NT4 XY is an affordable alternative. But Audio Technica has the cheaper 8022 version too.
@@FreeToUseSounds oh wow! Thanks for your quick response!
@@mrmartinleano Pleasure!
Hello, I’m completely new at this. Thank you for this review. According to you does this ATechnica mic sound better than the build in stereo mic on a Zoom H6 for example to record light nature ambiance like soft stream of water, light breeze, birds... Since I just need to record from time to time for my own personal use, would you advise me to purchase this mic with a H6 or maybe it would work fine on a H4n? I just don’t about the preamps as well. Hope you can answer question. Thank you.
Hi Sylvain. Thank you for your message and yes the AT 4025 is a huge improvement to the XY capsule but if you don't use it very often you have to decide if you want to spend that kind of money on it. It also works fine on the H4n if you have this recorder already.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you very much for your answers. You're the best channel about field recording, honestly. Since I will mainly be capturing soft ambiance sound (nature mainly), I won't need a lot of bass for example. So I think I will just purchase the H6 and stick with the XY capsule unless you advise the M/S capsule for this kind of use??? And of course, I'll use your amazon link ;)
Oh the new H6 release 2020 doesn’t come with the MS capsule anymore so if you want, look into the H8 and if the new capsules coming out for this one, you have more future options.
@@FreeToUseSounds Thank you. I might turn to the H8 then with your link :)
@@sylvainclement thank you but feel free to watch the video about the H8. I have two. H6 vs H8 and also a real world test video.
Love your channel! I have been using the Zoom H4n Pro to record ambient sound fx for short films and recently I have noticed when the gain is turned up high their is a lot of pre-amp hiss introduced into my recordings. I'm thinking of getting an external x-y mic such as the BP4025 and running that through a Cloud Lifter to get super clean recordings.
Do you use 1 XLR input into your zoom device from the BP4025 to get stereo recordings?
I'm trying to find out to use 1 of the inputs on the Zoom H4N to record stereo via an external mic but can't seem to find an answer. I'm now doubting it has the capabilities and may look into investing in a Zoom F6 or H8.
Keep the videos coming!
Hi Jamie! Yes, that can happen but has nothing really to do with the recorder itself. It's about operating the gain control in different environments. If you are in a quiet space like a forest or you record sounds in empty streets, don't force the sound to sound loud.
Always listen with your ears first, put on your headphones, and adjust the gain until you hear the hiss. Then lower it until it disappears and start recording.
Not sure if you can find a 5 pin XLR cloud filter. The AT 4025 is a stereo microphone with a 5 pin XLR. That means you have a 5 pin connection on the microphone and the cable splits into a 3 pin XLR left and right. The 5 pin XLR cable is included if you buy the 4025 and that saves you some money. I do prefer Mogami cold because lower quality cables can create noise as well.
If you use one XLR input on the recorder you get a mono signal.
Do you get a lot of questions from people asking what you’re doing? If so do you have a business card or something that directs them to your channel?
Sometimes I do get questions but we never carry cards with us. We show them our Instagram account.
You always let my wallet open. I'm watching you every time. Thank you!
Ha Ha. Wait for the next video :)
Hi Marcel! Thanks for the great videos. I am very new to field recording and not understanding how the mic is connected to the recorder. I have a zoom h5 and the at bp4025. Do I need to use an xlr splitter or can I use a single xlr cable? Thanks so much. Best wishes, Hannah
Hello Hanna! The AT 4025 comes with the 5 pin to 2x 2 pin XLR. Did you not receive the cable? It should be with in the box. If you have you just use the two channels and link channel 1+2 in the menu.
@@FreeToUseSounds I got it second hand and unfortunately it didn’t include the cable. I was considering making an xlr splitter using Mogami 2534 (which would need two lengths of cable) or a bonded Mogami shotgun cable. But I’m not certain if the cable signal needs to be split or just a single input?
Just to explain that I’m cycling around the world so being extra weight conscious which is why I’m curious about avoiding using two lengths of cable...
@@RolandoMundo oh no!! Yes I have a Mogami too made by Cinela. I ordered two. If you have an pro audio store near you, they can make this in no time as long ad they have the connections too.
@@RolandoMundo Its only one cable with a splitter.
What's the difference between 12V and 24V and 48V phantom power?
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@@FreeToUseSounds What's your recommendations phantom power for audio technica bp4025?
@@FreeToUseSounds 12V or 24V or 48V ???
@@gmaster5730 48V
@@FreeToUseSounds thank you very much!
Great video and great sounding mic. In fact i ordered this mic after watching this video several times. I'm currently using an H4n Pro, but I can't get the results I want when it comes to recording ambience, so I'm looking to upgrade that as well. Either an F3, or if can stretch the budget further, an F6. From a relative beginner's perspective, which one would recommend? I might add that I have a Sennheiser MKE that i intend to use as well. Thanks for another awesome video.
I was going to say F3 but then you mentioned the MKE and I definitely can think of scenarios where I'd like to plug in my MKE 600 and a 4025 (which I'm here to evaluate for purchase) simultaneously. I run an F8 and would probably trade it for an F6. Never know what additional gear you might want to add and plug in down the line.
@@TigDegner I ended up going for the F6 in the end. Couldn't be happier! An awesome match for both the BP4025 and MKE 600.
@@Casual_Everything thanks for reporting back, sounds like a great kit without too much bulk. I checked your channel in case you'd done any video with it - you should do another backyard ambience one with this setup!
@@TigDegner I havn't been very active on TH-cam, but that might change (have a few ideas I want to try). The backyard recordings I've made with the F6 and BP4025 have ended up being disappointing because of all the traffic noice the mic is able to pick up. I am trying to find better places to record though.
Love your videos! I’m torn on what to purchase. I’d love to record the low rumbles of a storm as well as birds. Also like the idea of “binaural” ... any suggestions on a kit less than 1200 US? Be nice to use it when we film weddings too (we use witless Xlr system) as well as a rare 2-4 person podcast. Low self noise is a must.
Hi Justin, you can us any kind of omnidirectional microphones. I do have the DPA 4060 and used them in the past to record ambience but you can use them also for binaural recordings and of course lavaliers
Very nice video, but the music is very annoying.
Ah sorry about that :(
You don't seem to be interested in M-S recording for stereo: the possibility of choosing your recording field in post-treatment isn't a valuable thing for you?
Not really. MS never really interested me. Decoding etc. I like to keep things simple but I do think that MS recordings can be very useful. Especially if you want to go for 5.1.
$600.....is a budget??
I am scared
Would not call this a budget mic at all.
That depends on your budget.