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What is the best bakki shower media? (Make your own PART 2) koi pond filter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- What is the best media for your koi pond bakki shower filter? In this video I hope to answer that question and more. This is the second video in the DIY bakki shower build series and the third bakki shower video in total with the first covering all aspects of bakki shower development, construction and principles of operation plus much more.
For this video I have researched over 40 different medias and narrowed them down to one very low budget option and 4 (all essentially the same product) best all round options. I have also negotiated a great discount off one of the top picks which you can claim using the code in the video.
Cost, performance and durability are all considered.
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The discount still applies. Aqua source was around £10 cheaper than the shops. They also have loads of other pond related items on their web site. Worth giving a call! Postage is a few £ and next day!
That's brilliant, thanks for letting us know mate, glad to hear we can still save a few quid 👍👍👍👍
Very informative video. Much appreciated for you taking the time to do all of the research on the media and provide an explanation as to how you arrived at the results you did. Looking forward to your shower build.
Thanks mate, glad it was useful to you👍
Did some more work on the shower yesterday so shouldn't be far off now
Loved the video am makin bakki shower cudnt make my mind up on media to use many thanks for sharing your finds 👍
Thanks Dave, glad to hear it helped. Roll on spring so we can get them up and running and see the benefits 😁
Great video Darren well done on researching the media its not an easy job i know. Be nice to see the end product now , great offer on the media well done on that, keep safe buddy.
Cheers Mark, you to sir 🍻👍🍻
Great video, very informative and thanks for doing the research and getting the deal on media. 👏👍
no problem Martin, you're welcome 👍👍👍
I've got the CSM media 150 litres and it's great stuff. I spoke direct to dealer and they did it at £55 a box as I was buying 6 boxes they gave me a great discount always worth ringing round for a good deal as most wanted £65-£70 a box.
Nice one, that's a pretty hefty discount you managed there mate 👍👍
Definitely worth asking the question
Great video again. Glad you didn't rule out pumice completely. I've had mine running for over a year with no degradation to the media. Mind you mine probable does run more like a trickle filter. I will be interested in seeing a full review of that media you are going to use. I've heard some negative stuff about it's strength but I'm keen to get your view on it. I would trust your opinion with it.
Hi Jim, I didn't mention in the video but I found out there are a couple of different types of pumice and its a bit of a lottery as to which one you get. You're not the first to say it has lasted well and there are others who say it has eroded quite quickly so I'm guessing its the difference between one type of pumice and the other. I couldn't find a way to differentiate or guarantee you got the better one so I had to go worst case but even so I think its a great option 👍👍
Been waiting for this one, well worth the wait. Brilliant info as always,bit of a minefield if you don’t really understand it. Looking forward to the build video now. Superb , cheers daz👍
Thanks Richard 🍻🍻🍻
A lot of people use feather rock very porus. In my shower i use a combo tree lotus root and the same bio sticks you have. Tree lotus root is very hard and seems like it's lasting longer. There is no replacement for BHM it's simply better then everyone else... but costly I rather spend on a koi Lol.. great video thanks again.
Cheers David, I'm with you on that one. Going to put my savings towards a little chag when the weather warms up a bit , probably replace the soragoi 👍👍👍
Don’t know where my comment went. Ordered some at 3 pm Monday and lad said it be here on Wednesday. Thanks for getting the offer. 👍
No problem Graeme, I believe they are getting low on stock again and it sounds like its going to be late march before another shipment comes in.
I made a tower filter last year out of 3 dog baths ( don’t laugh) . Bottom 2 have 50 kg of pumice top one got alfagrog. Well did have. Emptied and clean this week and tbh I was surprised how clean it was. Anyway my Kano came at 4 on Wednesday so 3 boxes approx went straight in top tier. Question is. What will be best mix. I can mix each tier with both pumice and Kano or Kano in centre of each tier surrounded by pumice. Pumice in bottom. Mix in middle and just Kano in top. I said tower as not sure if it’s true shower as I have a oase 6000 pump going over it. Each tier is 80 litre but I not filled them. Question 2 is. Will it be better to bin the 3 80 litre tubs and go smaller for the pump size for more flow. I got 8 boxes of Kano to play with 🙈. Thanks for any replies of anyone with advice
Hi Graeme, I don't think it matters hugely where you put them but if it where me I would put the Kano in a position where it gets water smashing against it with mechanical waste in so probably the top tray. The kano will deal with solids better than pumice so you want to take advantage of that. Don't bury it.
Yes I think you will benefit from concentrating the flow down over a narrow area to compensate for the reletively small flow. I'm flowing 5500 litres per hour over mine and my shower is 4 tiers and only 30cm wide (40cm deep).
Wanted to get it in ASAP so got the Kano in top 2 boxes and pumice in bottom. Happy with it atm and be doing twice weekly water tests. 3/4 of pumice I had in is still in so swapping the Alfa grog for 6 boxes of Kano has got to be a improvement.
Well done Daz another good video. 😎👍🏼
Cheers mate, 👍🍻🍻
Excellent video. I purchased Mountain tree lotus root last summer. However, it's not used in a shower, but in a sump before a waterfall so its submerged. It was only after I purchased it that I found out about the deterioration issues. Having said that, I am hoping that it won't fall apart so quickly being submerged, with the flow of water travelling from below upwards. So there will be no real impact of water hitting it as such, just a current of water flowing through it and around the spirals. That's how I hope it works out anyway -time will tell! Anyway, great video and keep them coming.
Hi mate, yes I'm sure it will be fine in your situation. It does look like a great media in terms of surface area and pores etc so I think it will perform really well. It would be interesting to hear if you find it handles nitrate in that configuration to 👍👍🍻🍻
@@DazzleKoi It replaced alphagrog that was being used specifically to clean up nitrates. Alphagrog has many pores but it blocks up very quickly. I looked at momotaro BHM but ruled it out due to cost. I saw mountain tree lotus root which was ‘cheaper’ so went for it. It’s still not the cheapest, so when I started seeing reports it disintegrated after 2 years I did get concerned. The water quality since I put it in has been superb, O am just hoping it doesn’t fall to bits🙁
I'm sure it wont mate 👍👍
Brilliant video Daz 👌
Cheers Anthony 👍👍🍻🍻
Great video bud! I think you will of made a lot of people sad with there cheap grog showers! So many channels advise grog as a cheap good media so I was surprised you say it was bit crap but to be fair everyone I know who has had grog seems to upgrade! Loving the vids as always ! 👍🏻
Hi mate and thanks 🍻 I hope not, I don't want to upset anyone but I have to tell it how I find it.
@@DazzleKoi defiantly mate. That’s what makes the hobby interesting there are so many options to choose from. Summer on its way il be playing around myself with new media ! 🤗
Good stuff mate, let us know how you get on 👍👍
Thanks Daz. I’ve been waiting for this video and it didn’t disappoint. Thank you for the effort you have put into collecting the information.
I couldn’t see the join button on the home page ?
Is it just me?
Hi Robert, I'm not sure why that is. On the banner at the top where there is a picture of me pointing at the Dazzle koi badge , the join button should be just below my hand that's pointing. Let me know if you still can't find it and I'll look into it further 🍻🍻
Very informative as always daz,
Thank you Rex, cheers 🍻🍻
Another video that helps all of us Koi hobbyists make better informed decisions 👍. I have a media that i use in my American Cichlid tank. Lava rock @ £3.99 a kilo. Very lightweight due to it better constructed of holes really. Have you ever used this?
Hi Gary, I haven't used lava rock, no. I did look in to it when I researched for this video but it was difficult to find any conclusive evidence one way or the other. I believe it to be similar to pumice but less porous. It seemed that it is used more in America than here in the Uk and more in the past than it is today.
Although it is a different product I kind of classed it similar to alfa grog to be honest. It will give some benefit, but for just a little bit more outlay there are many many options that give benefit gains that far out weigh the cost difference.
Good info.. Nice breakdown.. 👍
Cheers Chris 🍻🍻🍻
Good vid Mate. Biohome ultra or ultimate is the one used for showers in the biohome range. Its good stuff but i was shocked how expensive it was when i had to buy more to fill my shower trays. Pondguru sells it and knows plenty about the product if you ever needed to know more. Good deal on the copy media im sure this will help many people 👍🐟
Thanks Ric, yes if you use Ultimate and use the volumes they recommend (needs a lot more than BHM) then it is something like 4 times the price of BHM !!!!
@@DazzleKoi yeah not cheap mate an expensive error by me 2 years ago. N anearobic bacteria isnt snobby it will colonise porous material under the right trickle conditions 👍🐟
True mate 👍
Spot on videos mate glad to see you pointing out what a bakki shower is as there are loads of people that say they have a bakki but it's really a trickle tower. I use BHM am sure sakura, csm and the aquasource media is exactly the same thing from the same manufacturer. Was interested where you got the info on crystal bio and ph as I have some bagged up in a bio chamber. And my ph in my pond is higher than the source water. Looking forward to the build video mate
Hi Phil, yes I think I'm right in saying that out of the 4 I recommend there is only actually 2 different types.
The crystal bio info all mentions the pH increase but they cleverly say that it 'prevents pH crashes' or that it provides s a pH buffer rather than just straight out that it increases pH. Basically it has a pH of close to or just slightly over 8 so it pushes your water up to that level, similar to using oyster shells etc
@@DazzleKoi yeah went back and looked at the literature, going to do an experiment will update you mate. If it increases the pH wondering if that also includes raising the kh. Tried lotus root and its shite its crumbles to like wet sand.
Hi Phil, yes it will buffer your kh up so if you need that its not a bad thing 👍
Nice video Mate! Thanks
Thanks Shaun 🍻👍🍻👍🍻
I'm a little put out why lava rock hasn't been mentioned.
It's one of the cheapest medias around. Plus doesn't clog in showers if used after mechanical filtration.
As you are making a DIY shower filter. The four you recommend are very expensive for DIY. If you can afford the top four you should be able to buy a factory made filter shower.
Hi Andy, I'm not sure what you mean by a 'factory made filter shower' but a proper momotarro bakki shower filled with BHM costs several thousand pounds. Many third parties make what they call shower filters but the vast majority of them are extremely poor. Only 3 tiers, wrong sizes and wrong heights between tiers, wrong media etc. They dont usually work as showers, more like trickle towers.
I'm trying to recreate a proper shower for minimum spend, not copying the poor copies out there.
Lava rock is not a good shower media. I essentially classed it with alfa grog as it has similar traits and performance.
Marine pure sphere isn't shower media from 🇺🇸 MP and indorsed by BRSTv and when doing marining was the best from range in sump shower but fully submerged .. But the MP2C- c is a great shower media and most cermedia have good nitrate properties and the porosity is 2nd to none and still 20yrs Market Leaders 🤨...... But I do like the Miracle Stone and I'm gonna get small box of that BHM and try to see if i can see Any difference between the MP2C - c and BHM Personally I don't I'll notice much but I'm sure it will contribute to the corse. 👍
Hi Simon, yes that would be really interesting to see a direct comparison between the medias. Let us know how you get on 👍👍👍
Dam iv got to change my media great video as usual 👍
Hi Terence, now is a good time to do it with spring approaching but if what you have is working for you its not always necessary?
@@DazzleKoi yea I’m gonna look in to it
Will you be using the top tear of your shower just for mechanical and then 3 of media mate great video
Hi mate, no all 4 tiers will contain the aquasource media. My water goes through a Pod and a Tempest before going to the shower so its clean but the correct media will handle solid waste anyway even if the water isn't clean.
Just a thought. Wonder if it would be worth doing a video on the difference between a shower filter and a trickle filter apart from the obvious. Advantages and disadvantages to both. Also what media would be best for a trickle tower.
Hi Iain, yes I will definitely add that to the list of future videos. Its a long list but I'm working through it slowly 👍👍🍻🍻👍👍
@@DazzleKoi keep them coming pal. Doing a top job!
Will do 👍
Thankyou I will be phoning for media 😀👍
Brilliant information thanks a lot Dazz. It does become a mine field sometimes on which is the best media to buy. And which one is the best without been ripped off 👍
Cheers Andrew 🍻🍻
I’ve just ordered a 30cm 3 tier shower for my 1200 litre raised pond.
I only have 9 good sized shubunkin.
I have a diy shower but spent the money on a proper made unit. I do have some crystal bio and was just about to order more so this video came at the right time. however seeing the price of the ‘best option media’ I may have to stick with Crystal bio or look into pumice as you suggest.
Great video
Thanks
Hi Rob, yes I think if you don't want to go for the aquasource then I would go for the pumice. I think its better than the crystal bio if I'm honest and its cheaper as well 🍻🍻👍👍
Hi pal. Just looking now. Think I’ll order more than I need then I can replace when needed. Great advice
Thank you
Does the pumice media take a long time to colonise? I
Hi Rob, its all down to a lot of factors such as flow rates, levels of ammonia/nitrite, temperature etc etc etc but in terms of comparing one media to another, the time to colonise should be near enough the same 👍
Well Done Dazzle! and thank you!
I have had terrible experiences with Cotswold Koi and I cant recommend them for anything! Especially Mail/ online orders.
Thanks Neil, no problem.
Damn, sorry to hear about your troubles with Cotswold. I don't know what to do if I'm honest, I've hearted the comment so others can see it 👍
@@DazzleKoi good deal on the shower media and great efforts for everyone!
Its hopefully just a isolated case and down to just my own luck and personal experience, so definitely dont do anything incase it brings the haters out the wood work lol. But one thing I have started to see is that there is a lot of cowboys in the Koi trade, not that im calling Cotswold Koi cowboys of course, so like you said before its good to build a good relationship with your local Koi dealer and a trusted one at that and this channel helps give us the knowledge to limit making those kind of mistakes etc.
But as always a great video and even better a group discount on the media so thanks again buddy.
No problem Neil 👍
As you say, hopefully just a one off.
I do like the fact I have a dealer I trust close by. It was seeing the koi at a local dealer some 25+ years ago that got me in to koi keeping so I know they have an important role to play. We stepped in to Infiltration and where instantly koi keepers for life.
Very informative video, I use the Sakura media, having found the bhm media, eye watering expensive
Hi Marek, yes the sakura is definitely good stuff 👍👍
very interesting m8, are you still going to make part 3 Daz ??
Hi Stephen, yes mate, part 3 is all but done. I just need to edit it all together and it will be good to go. Hope to get it up for channel members this weekend 👍👍
Hi Darren another great informative video.you say if money is no object BHM is the one,why is that better than the aquasource?
Hi Baden, in theory they should be the same but I've got the confidence in BHM having used it for many years as sole filtration on my 5500 gallon pond. Because I know its manufactured as it should be and seen it work for myself I can recommend it from experience whereas the copies I haven't used them and so I have to take the manufacturers word for it.
As I say though, IN THEORY, they should be the same 👍
Excellent video again. Are you going to put your shower inside the shed with with other filters?
Hi Anthony, I'm not 100% certain but I think its going to go on the side of the shed, over the raised flower bed. The other option is the back right corner where the return is at the moment. It will all come down to the height really and if it ends up being taller than the back fence.
i built a shower last year, and fitted it today, just need to buy my media now. so, my question is, what happens in the winter with it ? do you all turn your showers off, and in doing so kill the media and have to start all over again next year, or do you cover them or insulate them and keep it running all year ? how long does it take for it to mature and work ? any input would be appreciated
Hi mate, no its never turned off, as you say you would have to start all over again every spring. How long it takes is a tough one as it depends on many variables such as the media you use, the flow, temps, whether you have other bio filtration running, pond volume, fish load, food used and how much etc etc etc. I would suggest banking on 6 to 8 weeks to mature and start taking nitrate out to any significant level but it will vary massively.
I'm in the uk so cold is not an issue and I don't cover it or anything. You might need to do something if you are in a colder country though.
Hi Darren, I have just watched another hobbyist's video about blanket weed and oxygen. Did you say you had a recurring blanket weed problem?
Hi Anthony, not recurring, its the first outbreak but its to be expected with a new pond really. I'm yet to start a pond and not get it in the first 12 months when everything is settling and finding an equilibrium. I treated it with blanket answer but it was to cold really. I've got an aquasource one here but I'm waiting until it gets up around 10C
Great job daz 👍🏼 and I guessing you had a chat with deano at aquasource who is keen to keep the hobby alive and very helpful (not just for profit).
I wasn't aware that they did shower media but im a BHM fanboy as you say "if you can get it its the best".
Take care matey 👍
Thanks Tom, yes indeed , Dean sorted the deal for us 👍👍
Brilliant information again thank you, think I might be getting some cano, how many Kg do you think I'll need for 4000ltr pond
Hi Malcolm, its down to what flow you can put over it rather than what size your pond is really. I'm flowing 5000 litres per hour to mine so I'm building a 30cm shower, 4 tiers, with 5 kg in each tier. Have a look at my 1st construction video for the info on how to size your shower etc 👍🍻👍
Hi Daz, is it better to place media horizontally/ vertically / randomly? Thanks!
Hi mate, break it up and put it in as random as possible. You want to create chaotic flow to prevent water tracking through 🍻🍻👍🍻🍻
Hi Daz thinking of using a planter feed back into pond , it will be lined and on shelf and then a water fall back into the pond , i am going to plant it with pond plants but thinking about adding some media to it, do you think this type of media aquasource kano would be suitable between the plants?
Hi David, this media would definitely work well in that situation. People call it a bakki river when its configured like that. It isn't as effective as when its showered but it will still do something.
The big thing you need to watch for is that it doesn't collect debris and become a breeding ground for bacteria. The pores can become blocked to if it isn't getting constantly pounded with water. You would just need to keep an eye on it and clean it if necessary 👍
Hi David, I have a planter system built into my pond, it is the secondary filter with waterfall back into the pond. I used pea size gravel as the medium (wash thoroughly) and when you put the plants in I would recommend putting the plants in pots as the plants roots will run rampant in the gravel. All soil has to be removed, use the gravel as the pot medium also. I hope this helps.
Very useful video, thanks. As you have some of the Kano media, does it float or sink if gets submerged? Cheers
Hi Paul, it sinks when submerged 👍
@@DazzleKoi Thanks. I know its a strange question about shower media but I am thinking of replacing the Crystal Bio in my Concept Gravity Shower. The bio chamber floods if there is a power cut. Cheers
Ah I see. Makes sense mate 👍
Evening Fella, am loving your videos so much information explain clearly, im in the process of building a shower and this what time of media is messing with my head, how are you getting on with your kano media in yours, ??.. i was thinking about putting a mix of kano and bhm in mine, or bateria house and bateria home. please help...
Hi Mark, so far so good mate. I've had no nitrate since about 2 weeks after the shower was switched on. Media is still nice and clean despite blanket weed in the pond. Appetites are good, ammonia and nitrite zero no matter what I feed them.
Its difficult to appraise shower media to be honest but from what I can tell and what I've seen so far the Kano is doing a great job 👍👍👍
@@DazzleKoi That's Great to hear, planning on building mine this coming weekend, keep up the good work, think i'm going to mod my one by putting 2 out lets on the bottom (one for the waterfall and the other to return straight into the pond, what do you think about have some super fine foam in the bottom to catch any fine debris thats might come through from the mechanical filter
Hi Mark, lots of people put foam in the top tier but personally I dont see the point. With the correct flows and correct media a shower will consume some mechanical waste so I prefer to let it do its thing and not have the hassle of cleaning foam etc. I think it slows the water down as well and you lose some of the momentum from the spray bar spraying the water in the top.
Hi Dazzler, question for you if you can help.
Bacteria house media - do you know if anyone has used or had good results using it submerged under aerated water?
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Hi mate, sorry for the delay in replying, I've been away on holiday.
Yes I've heard of people using BHM in bakki rivers and in submerged systems with good results. In my opinion though it seems a bit of a waste to use such expensive media in a way that it was not designed to run when in theory there are much cheaper options that (again in theory) should work better, such as fluidised K1.
One thing I don't know is if it would still harbor anaerobic bacteria if it was submerged. For me the biggest advantage to showers with ceramic medias is their ability to remove nitrate through anaerobic bacteria so it would be interesting to see if that still happened when submerged.
@@DazzleKoi hmmm interesting answer that, think i may give it a try later down the line, i have a new pond, not keen on the visual bakki showers and have no room to place it.
I have recently spoke to someone else who says he knows a fella that is having good results in a home made aerated submerged barrel system using bhm 😏
Hope you had a good holiday 👍🏻
Cheers Paul, we did thank you. A week around Cornwall in a camper van 👍👍👍
In theory any material with a surface for bacteria to live on will work but the surface area determines how big the colony can grow and hence how much waste it can process. So it will definitely work, but how efficiently I don't know and I don't think you will get maximum bang for your buck.
Think i will give that media a go mate i was going for the queeni koi version. But think ill use the code lol
Hi mate, its just off Merton Bank road 👍👍
Very interesting. Will have to get some at that price.
What would be your recommendation for a filter for a pump fed system?
Hi Iain, what size is the pond?
@@DazzleKoi Just short of 2000 gallons. Was looking maybe at a bead filter with a multi cyclone pre filter, then I it will pump up to the shower as well.
Hi Iain, I cant comment on the multicyclone as I have no experience of them but a bead and shower is a tried and tested combo that will work really well on 2000 gallons. If you make sure to get the right bead I don't think you will get anything extra from the multicyclone to be honest. Bead and shower is more than enough.
@@DazzleKoi thankyou. You can spend ages researching filter systems. Even when you think you have narrowed it down there are many different makes to research.
It is a minefield. I do like the bead/shower combo though as it only requires a single pump so its simple and straight forward but they compliment each other really well 👍
Hi Dazzle, just wondering how the Kano media is performing? I just spoke to Aquasource and they are still honouring your discount code but at a reduced discount level of £69.95/10kg which is still half the price of the original BHM. Keep up the good work and thanks for the invaluable advice 👍
Hi Andy, its not easy to say for sure with shower media but so far it seems to be great. I had a look at it a few days ago and its not blocking up or anything and I've had no nitrate since I started the shower so that's the main thing for me. Ammonia and nitrite are none existent no matter what food I throw in but I do have the pod and tempest running so they could probably cope on their own anyway.
So far though I'm very happy with it 👍👍👍
@@DazzleKoi Hi Daz and thanks for the feedback. It sounds like it's doing the trick nicely 👌
Yes mate, so far so good 🍻
Iv been using that media for about 3 months, does it take 6 months for nitrates to start reducing, great vid
Hi Mitch, yes it can take a long time for anaerobic bacteria to 'move in' . I would expect you should start seeing something soon though, particularly when the temp warms and you start feeding and generating more nitrate.
I found the Sakura media in my shower took a season to mature, I thought to begin with I'd wasted my money on the shower and media, but the second season it came to life, so much so I couldn't be without it now.
Could you not use the same material air stones are made of
Hi Gaz, I'll be honest I don't actually know what they are made from. Some kind of sintered product maybe. I would guess it would work but I have no idea how well. Also, they tend to break down over time so I suspect it may not be durable enough to stand the constant barrage it would get in a shower.
I'm in the US and can't find any of the brands you recommend. Thoughts?
Hi Beth, I've had a search myself but its difficult. Whatever I try it keeps giving me companies here int he Uk. I did find this one www.underwaterwarehouse.com/filter-systems/bakki-showers/sea-side-aquatics-ceramic-bio-house-media-for-bakki-shower-49-pcs/
and also this genuine BHM supplier www.grandkoi.com/momotaro-bacteria-media/
Thanks Mate! Appreciate the response and hope you are doing OK! You are greatly appreciated hete!
Great video ..are these figures based on 1 Tier ?
Hi mate, sorry for the delay, been having a few issues. Which figures in particular?
@@DazzleKoi sorry I meant price is that per tier or the whole shower
Hi mate, sorry, the prices are based on 4 tiers. So for example, the BHM is £540 for enough to fill 4 tiers at 60cm wide.
Hi daz, just looking back at your video on shower media, and noticed that you said crystal bio will increase ph. Will it significantly increase the ph? Would much appreciate your views if possible, many thanks
Hi Richard, its hard to say with pH as it depends where your current pH is. It should move your waters pH towards 8.3 / 8.4 so it depends if you are above that or below it.
@@DazzleKoi coming out of tap at 7.5 and 9.0 in pond, any info you got would be great, thanks for getting back to me
Hi mate. So something is pushing it up. Do you have any run-off from flags, mortar, bricks etc? pH will fluctuate through the day, lower in the morning, higher at night due to photosynthesis. The crystal bio could push it up a bit more when its new but shouldn't do it long term.
The only way really to lower it safely is with your tap water. If you dont already I would set up a trickle in trickle out to waste.
Also, get a second test kit and double check as that is a big increase from your tap water.
Dont need to panic, pH 9 is ok. Its better to be stable at 9 than to fluctuate around 7-8
@@DazzleKoi sorry for late reply daz had phone issues, took your advice and tested with another kit and exactly the same. I have got bricks around top of pond but been there for past 10 years and no issues. Do you think the use of thiosulphate could be an issue that’s the only thing I’ve done different this year is to use it? Many thanks for help daz
Hi Richard, I've never heard of it before and I can't think of any possibility chemically that sodium thiosulphate could raise pH. I've used it a long time and my pH is never over 7.5.
Food quality and feed volume can have an impact on pH but it isn't usually so big.
Beyond that I'm at a loss mate, I can't think of anything else that would push pH up like that.
I think your best tool for bringing it down is your tap water but I would do one last check on it. Take a glass full out the tap and leave it to stand overnight then test again in the morning. If its still low I would add a trickle in to bring pH down and keep it consistently down.
My ph is always 8.5 - 9
If I use pumice stone will it go sky high?? Thx
Hi mate, no it wont go any higher. It may even come down slightly in your case. It doesn't raise pH necessarily, it changes pH towards the level of the pumice itself. So if your pH was 7.5 then it would raise it towards 8 - 8.5 but if your pH is above 8 - 8.5 it will reduce it to that level.
So basically it shifts pH to the same level as the material. In most cases that means going up but in your case it is already up at that level anyway so it means staying the same or even coming down a bit
@@DazzleKoi thank you! Only just found your channel, excellent content and very easy to follow!
Thanks mate, good to hear its helpful 🍻👍🍻👍🍻
@@DazzleKoi could I have top tiers of pumice, them BHM below tiers? Is it ok to mix?
Yes mate absolutely. No problem at all mixing them. I would suggest though that you put the BHM in the top if you can as it will consume some solid debris where the pumice wont and it may eventually block up. Other than that is fine 👍👍👍
What about lava rock?
Hi Andy, as far as I know it is the same as alfa grog which is no good for a shower at all. It isn't porous at all at the pore sizes required. Its better submerged for limited bio filtration but it is difficult to keep clean and free of harmful bacteria. I would go for pumice if you can.
Great video. I personally use in one tray the pumice and the second tray the Kano. I have made a trickle shower, not a proper bakki shower as i didnt want more than 5000 litre per hour on it. To me Kano is amazing.
Regarding the Lotus Root, I think this media is not well explained. Due to the high temp during the curing, it becomes a media that needs to be either submerged or in trickle showers, not bakki showers. The force of the bakki shower will make is crumble. It's by having a nice slow though it that the bacteria colonise, it's not really a media that needs water crushing on it. I am in contact now with the Italian reps and the German rep as it's so difficult to get it in England. Queni koi only sells it now with their bakki shower, which doesn't make sense...
Thank you for closing a deal with AquaSource, that's amazing.
Thanks Lau, interesting info about the lotus root.
I know you where one of the people who put me on to the aquasource in the first place. And your good experience of it was one of the many good user reviews I heard 🍻🍻
@@DazzleKoi I love media!! I wish I had the money and time to invest and create media and work with media.
Yes its a really interesting subject. i do enjoy the science element 😁
I have been on your home page but I can’t see were it says join mate
Hi Andrew, it should be just below the banner at the top of the channel homepage. Its hard for me to explain exactly because I see a different screen. Let me know if you still cant find it. Its a little rectangle with the word 'Join' in it.
I have had a look on the home page and still can not see anything mate. I am on TH-cam on my phone I have not got a lap top. So I wounding if that’s why it’s not there, Sorry for being thick 😁
Hi mate, its hard to say as I cant see it the same as you do, even when I try to sign out for some reason.
If you type Dazzle koi in to youtube search you get a screen showing videos that you can scroll down. At the top of that screen it says the number of subscribers, the channel name, 40 videos, SUBSCRIBE, and to the left there is the dazzle koi logo. If you click the logo that takes you to the channel home and the Join button is there then.
Let me know if that still doesn't work 👍
@@DazzleKoi done all that mate if you use your iPhone for TH-cam it does not say anywhere about joining. If I go on my wife’s iPad and go onto your page it says join straight away. When I join will I be able to access it of my iPhone? It must be different on your iPhone to laptops and iPads, sorry for been a bit stupid 😂 👍
Hi mate, you are right, I just did it with my wifes iphone and the join button wasn't there either. I've had a google and came up with this:-
'I am Leonfire, a youtube partner. There is no join button on iOS apart from old youtubers cos apple takes a cut of 30% so they stopped showing it for the new youtubers. it works on android phones but not iOS devices anymore. You can use the link in his description to join his membership or you can ask him for one but you cannot join using iOS for newer youtubers! Hope that helps!'
Try this link , hopefully this will open up the little window with the video on. I'm not overly happy with the video and we've added the facebook group since to which isnt in the video so I'm going to make a new one but it should give you an idea of how it works 👍👍
th-cam.com/channels/NLKeQ8rb4eAjDP1OHLJ7BA.htmljoin
Hi Daz where is this company based mate
Hi Barry, Aquasource are based in St Helens, off merton bank road. Full address is
Aqua Source Products Ltd, 8 Merton St, St. Helens, Merseyside WA9 1HX
Hi daz it the offer still available ?
Hi Lee, unfortunately not but he is still knocking something off if you mention the channel when you phone. I'm not sure exactly how much but I believe its still cheaper than the alternatives 👍👍
@@DazzleKoi thank for coming back to me still a lot cheaper then bhm ! How is the media going ?
Hi mate, so far so good. I've had a look at it a couple of times and its nice and clean and I've had zero nitrate since around 3 weeks after switching the shower on so no complaints from me so far 👍👍👍
Why is BHM meant to be the best?
I cannot find any proof that BHM is the best?
Other cheaper medias which are made from the same gear perform exactly the same.
I'm not convinced about a very expensive shower media being the best when there are other shower medias out there that cost much less and do exactly the same job.
Hi Rob, BHM was developed by a project team in conjunction with the team developing shower filtration so it is designed and manufactured from the ground up to be the perfect media for a shower. Other manufacturers are able to copy exactly it but the manufacturing costs are the same. The material is heated to high temps and held for very long periods of time, during which the internal structure is created.
Cheaper copies are made cheaper by cutting corners. Usually the temp is not as high or its not held as long, thus reducing the massive energy costs.
So while it appears the same material and same manufacturing , it isn't, and this is why they don't work as well and they don't have the durability of the original and why, as with most things in life, you get what you pay for.
I've used the cheaper copies as I can't afford the original but its a compromise.
@@DazzleKoi thankyou for the reply .....personally I think time will tell on this subject.
I have the cheaper alternative in my shower at the moment which has been in there 3 years now and still solid with no signs of it breaking up and is still doing a great job for my pond.
I think it like most things in life, an original design can command alot of money as it's the only one of its kind until the cheaper copies or alternatives are there to be bought which still do the same job..
Just like everything in life.
Good vids , keep them coming.
Yes you could well be right mate. I forgot to mention as well, there is often patent issues which stop people copying products exactly. It could be that they need to tweak the temp or the time its held for in order to circumvent the patent on the original BHM.
That said, I don't know how long any patent would last, its over 20 years since I first used BHM in a shower so any patent could well have expired anyway now.
Went to b@q they now sell the euro boxes
Really? That would be handy for me as I have a good discount from there through my business. I'll have to check them out for price , Thanks Dean 👍👍