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The Covenant from the Halo franchise seem like a good candidate. There is some good lore to dig into that really exposes them as incompetent or grossly overconfident.
My suggestions for Villains Too Stupid to Win: •Slade, _Teen Titans_ (2003) •The Skekses, _The Dark Crystal_ (1982), _TDC: Age of Resistance_ (2019) •Lex Luthor, _Superman_ films (1978-1987, 2006) •Aku, _Samurai Jack_ (2001-2004, 2017) My suggestions for Advanced Sci-Fi Civilizations Too Stupid to Really Exist: •Time Lords, _Doctor Who_ •Children of Tama, _Star Trek_ •Oceania, _Nineteen Eighty-Four_ (1984)
The film version of Hammond isn't what I'd call a villain. He just had delusions of grandeur and is stubborn. The novel version is actually villainous. He constantly denies anything is wrong, is cheap, treats basically everyone that works for him apart from Dr. Wu like they are expendable, and at the end right before he is killed by the Procompsognathus admits that he dislikes his own grandchildren. He was a complete egomaniac as well.
@@ljpal18 Tim is the older sibling and far less annoying. Lex is the younger brat, her father's favorite, is whiney and almost gets the group killed several times.
@@Thoralmir Tim in the book was a pretty cool kid, I looked up to him, seeing as I first read the book when I was like, 8 or so. Lex was a sh*tty little brat, from what I can remember. Malcolm was weird and endlessly fascinating.
@@MediaZealot Alright I say in pure unironics that the Feathered Raptors look much cooler and more unique. We already have Dragons being the giant lizards of media, having birds but more badass looking immediately made me dislike the Hollywood-mutant versions, and Dr Wu pretty much admits in Jurassic World that the Dinos are just mutants curated for marketability.
In the original novel, Hammond is more overtly greedy and corrupt but doesn’t get away Scott free. He falls down a hill and breaks his ankle and is eaten alive by the compys. Also, it’s ironic how Gennaro, the lawyer, is the cowardly one in the movie, when in the book he fought a raptor with his bare hands.
@@dustyrose192 Gennaro makes it out alive, only to die of dysentry between the end of Jurassic Park and the beginning of The Lost World. Much of movie Gennaro's behaviour is the result of merging him with another character called Regis who's death scene was given to Gennaro. Book Gennaro is actually pretty skeptical of the park and actually helps fight the raptors (reluctantly but successfully). Oddly enough Malcolm actually died in the novel, only for Goldblum's portrayal to be so popular that the sequel retconned that he had been nigh miraculously revived. Most of the cast are changed to one degree or another for the film; book Grant is fond of children, considerably older and not in a relationship with Ellie, Wu is killed by the raptors, while Muldoon not only survives but successfully takes down several raptors. Indeed the human cast prove far more able to engage the dinosaurs and kill them than their film counterparts.
I'd like to point out that, even among social species with definite languages like wolves and dolphins, different groups develop different vocal patterns when isolated from one another. The only explanation for how the Indominus is able to communicate with the raptors is adding mind reading to his list of abilities.
@@NextToToddliness How do that work again... fool? Do you just go to France and start communicating with anyone by speaking... ENGLISH VERY LOUD AND SLOW?
The book explicitly says they made the dinosaurs scaly because of bad genetic filling, Wu expresses they could have made them feathery but they wanted to give people what they expected not what was authentic, and even offered to make them slower and less dangerous to which Hammond said no, he wanted them as real as possible.
@Jiub_SN also they definitely would've made them less dangerous if given the chance to because in order to have a profitable business like this. Safety needs to come first and foremost
@Pixel22-fs3tt but that couldn't have happened in the movie, otherwise the movie couldn't happen. Some movies ask you to suspend your disbelief to breaking point. Jurassic Park is easily one of them.
I love how this slowly morphs from "one man was deliberately ignorant" to "literally everyone is some combination of psychotic, suicidal, and stupid." Really shows the difference in writing quality.
Ian's iconic line in the 1st movie about scientists (movie producers in this case) not thinking whether they should and pumping out products is more relevant than ever.
I love how they named their new creation "Indominus Rex". It implies that, from an early stage, they were perfectly aware that they couldn´t maintain control over that thing (which is bad, obviously) and still decided to keep going.
Apperantly they chose Indominus because they wanted something scary yet easy to pronounce. It's less scary when you realize Indominus rex actually means "non lord king".
Fun fact, Muldoon survives in the book. While he still gets ambushed, he shoots a few of them before getting a leg injury and legging it to some nearby pipes left behind by the construction crew that are big enough for him to slide into but small enough the Raptors can't follow. Always bugged me that Spielberg killed him off.
That's for sharing what happened in the book, I forgotten. I'm ok with him dying as it ups the stakes with someone from the main cast (aide from Nedry) dying so in the end we would feel the main group could die before the T-Rex saves them.
@@user-uy1rg8td1v They could have come with more raptors or the Dilopho. I mean InGen still breeded new raptors despite the fact that they needed to put them in a solitary cell and since the dinos managed to dodge Wus birth control regime long before the first movie occured.
In the book Muldoon wanted military-grade weapons such as TOW missile launchers to be able to control the big dinos if they escaped,but Hammond overruled him on most of it. He only got one launcher and rockets because he threatened to go the the press.
The endo raptor always annoyed me. It’s the opposite of what you would want from a battlefield animal. It’s too big to feed, store or transport. Its constantly aggressive. The only way they can command it to attack specific targets is with a rifle which could just take out the target in and of itself. But most of all it’s way too expensive for something that could be shot to death in its first outing.
personally i think they should have replaced the atrociraptor scene in dominion with a nighttime parkarea indoraptor scene, where 2-3 indoraptors with all the abilitie sof the indominus hunt the main cast. Intelligence, camouflage, heatvision, radiojamming.
The indoraptor could learn something about tracking from Mr X who was sent after the Raccoon City Police to kill them and Nemesis who was programmed to track down S.T.A.R.S.
Making Hammond likeable was one of the better changes made from the book imo. Pretty sure the kid at the dig site was there with his parents, probably against his will. Wasn't Rowland looking for Dieter?
I kinda want to see Wicked from the Maze Runner series, they trap dozens of teenagers in mazes where many are killed with them being immune to the virus, they then harvest them and treat them horribly while believing they are the saviors of humanity and one of them shoots the person who created the cure
To be fair, humans aren't exactly the strongest or fastest things in the world. The raptors may very well be targeting them simply because everything else is faster, stronger, or both.
Even in paleontology, raptors weren't as fast as Jurassic Park's raptors, showing how the genetic tampering made them "genetically engineered theme park monsters".
True but REAL raptors were actually not great runners/chasers. Their legs weren’t long or sturdy enough like a human, canine, or ratite for long runs. They were mostly ambush predators. A fit human may not out-speed a raptor but they would probably outrun them eventually.
If I remember right, Hammond lied to Nedry about what the job actually was. It was supposed to be way simpler than it was. But instead of Nedry being able to back out or rebid Hammond had lawyers draw up a contract with hidden lines that kept him from leaving, basically legally locking him into being Hammond personal programing slave, as the issues were impossible to fix without spending a ton of money that Hammond refused to spend.
Hammond may actually have thought he was sparing no expense but his bean counters, doing what bean counters do, may have cut costs without telling Hammond.
That's actually implied with the 'Chilean Sea Bass' thing when he has his one-on-one with Doctor Satler in the first film. For those who don't know Chilean Sea Bass is mostly just a marketing term and not an actual fish, often it isn't even caught anywhere near Chile itself and ends up being other low quality fish types sold at a markup. So it's quite possible the InGen bean counters were doing the typical corner-cutting that comes with the job or, and equally likely, that Hammond was throwing huge sums of money around without really knowing what he was actually buying/paying for.
My favorite saying is "Any idiot can build a bridge, it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands" Sometimes experts will do what they "know" is good enough when a normal person would go away above and beyond.
I always liked the theory that Ingen and Hammond didn’t get that DNA like they said and just created the creatures how they wanted to make them marketable.
Considering that real life DNA starts falling apart after 1,5 million jears that's not a bad idea. We may never have living dinosaurs again but a ice age park with some moas mixed in would still be possible.
@@molybdaen11 That's not very accurate. DNA starts degrading almost as soon as the organism dies, even though multiple factors can preserve it for longer. The oldest DNA recovered to date was 2 million years old, but they're very small fragments. The idea of reviving ice age animals such as mamoths relies on much more recent DNA (just about 10k years old) and still needs complementing from modern species like indian elephants.
@@JPOG7TV It did explain in JW tho, Wu said that nothing in the Park is authentic or else the dinosaurs would look much more different. The dinosaurs which we saw in the OG Jurassic Park are already hybrid
I think umbrella is the worse out of all 3 of them when you realize zombies are about 5 percent of the what you can encounter plus Nemesis makes the indoraptor look small time when it comes to tracking and killing a target, and since he's a Tyrant class he doesn't die when you put him down he mutates into a different stage. Everything in resident evil has another stage it evolves into even the zombies.
@@javonyounger5107 might be a tough one since the xenomorphs are already a created species by the Engineers and were designed to work in extreme environments.
Nedry wasn't the only programmer, he was just on site to fix the issues during the rollout(they try and call his team in Cambridge when he disappears but the phones are out). So he basically set up a reason for him to be on site so he could steal the embryo's but isn't normally there by himself as InGen would have their own IT team for day to day.
Nedry wasn't stupid. He was arrogant & greedy & a criminal, but wasn't really stupid. If it wasn't for a random Hurricane, he'd have got away & been set for life
He was stupid for not delaying the plan once the random hurricane showed up. It's not like he's on any kind of timetable for his corporate malfeasance.
Was he even arrogant and greedy? He was being exploited and paid absolutely fuck all for doing literally a whole department's work. I think anyone would decide their boss can eat leather for that one.
As much as I love Old Man Hammond, the "spared no expense" line goes through my head and I see all the penny pinching aspects of the original park. Hammond is definitely not malicious but he certainly fits "Villains too stupid"....and HE WAS THE SMART ONE. InGen gets worse without him.
he threw the money and told them to spare no expense so I can't really hold it against him he clearly didn't mind spending the money and seemed proud of how much he spent to make it perfect seems more like that money got embezzled/intentionally wasted without his knowledge
Note if your sending a Team to a dangerous island have people on guard duty around your encampment to look out for predators or dangerous humans and have a guard rotation throughout the night. Also in a dangerous environment you should have back up radio phones and equipment just in case your one radio gets destroyed.
@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 More like movie vs reality, because what I am talking about is what people would be doing in real life, but in fiction you have to make the characters stupid so that it would create an action scene with those dinos.
"He's exploiting.. your enchantment.. with these." That genuinely feels like an admission from the writers that the World trilogy is a shameless cash grab that exploits the fondness people have for both dinosaurs and the original Jurassic Park.
@@GameTimeWhy Definitely over-the-top violence there. But I think the actress had a good time with it. They kinda had her bungee jumping into a pool of water to get the shots.
I never realized just how stupid her question was until reading your comment 😂 Ellie: "How can we know anything about an extinct ecosystem?" Grant: "Are our careers and areas of expertise a joke to you?"
its even funnier when you consider the parthenogenesis that blue did in dominion has been onserved in birds, like pidgeons, ad as dinosaurs are basicl ancient birds, they all been able to do it, the whole frog-dna excuse was not needed
It’s my head cannon theory that is a renounced conservationist called David Hammond in that universe, who took all the familial prestige, leaving John to get jealous enough to create the Park.
Muldoon: "So here are my options. Option A, shoot the Raptor Immediately. Option B, compliment the raptor, take a claw to the face and die." *Raptor pounces. Muldoon: "Should have gone with A."
@@worldofdoom995Not only that, he knows there’s two other raptors waiting for him to move so best case scenario, he swings the gun at the Raptor who jumped him only to get ripped apart by the other two.
When I first saw Jurassic Park, I never understood why Dennis was so happy about getting a leather bag. Literally after seeing that scene in this video it finally dawned on me. It was full of cash. How am I this old and just now connecting those dots?
17:20 One solutino I've seen suggested was to simply dig large pits in the ground, and have the dinosaurs in said pits. Completely safe and escape-proof.
The only time in my life a wish I made legitimately came true; its 1994, its summer, I'm 9. JP marketing is unlike *anything* I've ever experienced before, every free toy, every TV spot, every newspaper insert, it was *everywhere!* Almost certainly my first exposure to "hype". It worked. - Now, we never went without as children; but there were 7 of us including Mum and Dad and only Dad worked, so we weren't exactly well off (no carpets in most of the rooms, single pane windows, one room with heating, etc).. We didn't expect anything and wouldn't ask for a Freddo let alone a cinema trip... On the walk home from school one Friday, probably while talking about Jurassic Park, I say to my big brother _"Ooo I wish we could go and see Jurassic Park!"..._ I can distinctly remember the feeling of longing I felt when I said it, *knowing* it would never happen.. I can feel the weight in my heart, the warmth of the sun, I can smell the trees, everything.. We get in from school, I go upstairs to get out of my uniform. Mum calls upstairs shortly afterwards _"put proper clothes on, we're going out!"_ Expecting the semi-usual treat of a summer evening walk up to Kneller Park or Twickenham Riverside, I excitedly get ready... That's when I hear it... the rumour... disparate and unclear at first... panic and excitement... _What did she say? WHAT DID SHE SAY?!_ Confirmation. We're going to the Cinema to see Jurassic Park. To this day, I have no idea how she did it.. all 5 of us plus her tickets, bus fare, popcorn, drinks in a collectable plastic cup that were probably overpriced as hell... it must've cost her a fortune.. The first film I ever saw at the cinema. pure magic, I honestly felt like the single luckiest person on earth, I was *beaming* Tears in my eyes, one of my absolute favourite memories, hands down one of the best days of my life - love you, Mum ❤
Because that’s not exactly an easy thing to do. Do you see go karts having that feature, for example? I sure haven’t yet. I get these videos are fun to watch but they point out stupid decisions characters make and then turn around and suggest equally stupid or non viable ideas… from an engineering standpoint the simpler and more effective solution would be to have a team on standby to get people who weren’t coming back. They did have this team but they were busy with the chaos that ensued with the park wide recall.
They did I’m pretty sure. They said they fed engineered dinosaurs to not get some necessary protein from the wild, so they’d only get it from pills or something. I don’t remember if it was the novel or movie or both that said that though
@@Woopor That's the lysine dependency, mentioned in the video. Although that's also in the book, so I think it's an honest mistake writing-wise and doesn't really apply to the Villains Being Stupid theme of the video.
I always loved the "We would never reopen part" f... off like no park ever had accidents happen and reopened just fine! If it is managed well and nobody is harmed, the majority of people wouldnt even think about it again.
The whole Indominus rex genome thing bothers me so much. It just sounds like they just slapped together some random pieces of DNA and waited what will happen. It's a miracle they even managed to get a live specimen. I would guess that whatever sort of misshapen creature that could come out of such approach would be lucky to even start developing.
ingen must have developed tracker implants that grew with the dinos cause I-Rex supposedly remembered where they planted hers (which I assume they could only safely do at birth or in infancy) but it's the size of a flashlight when they find it after she breaks out
I remember in the video game "operation genesis" you really could spare no expense. Giant reinforced steel walls that maintain integrity without power connected, machine gun turrets in the visitor's area, rangers on helicopters with anti material rifles, and security checkpoints that served as chokepoints that dinosaurs couldn't pass in the event of a lockdown. Yeah. I really could spare no expense.
It also turns out that tiny raptor pen wasn't their original, intended enclosure: it was an animal quarantine pen, some place vets stash sick animals for treatment. The raptors were put there until their main enclosure could be better secured and reinforced because, as Muldoon explained, they were "attacking the fences when the feeders came... But they never attack the same place twice. They were testing the fences for weaknesses systematically. They remember."
Hey Media Zelot: If you haven't already got videos planned for them, could you talk about some of the members of Spectre from the James Bond franchise who had dumb plans?
@@jonathancampbell5231 I'd say Craig SPECTRE, if just because while a lot of classic Spectre's plans could seem goofy, at least their organisation's stated goal was to make a profit, as opposed to existing primarily to fuck with the founder's foster brother, all because the founder resented his dad giving said traumatised foster brother more attention.
39:55, this is hands down the funniest channel I have experienced in a long time. The damn Tuvoc references still making me cackle like a mad man. Good job dude! Perfect.
The funniest bit is learning new studies suggesting the biggest dinosaurs like the T-Rex may be the smartest ones as well. So genetically altered ones to be smarter would be as smart as humans.
This is a fair point, I had never thought of it that way but it puts a new level of danger to the I Rex (not that we couldn’t see that it was highly intelligent already)
The Indominus had to have an iq above 200 or something. It came up with ideas that not even the most intelligent humans could have figured out. Look at when she somehow realised that her cage is being watched by heat sensors, and that she can hide from them. Or when she was able to figure out that the humans will go inside her fence to check the claw marks, because its totally logical that a 10 ton animal can just climb out of its cage. She also remembered where did the humans put the tracker, while she was most likely put to sleep before the implanting process. The Indominus is only as intelligent as the script demands it, and that means she is hyper intelligent sometimes, but not as much in other scenes
@@tamas9554 i think she wasnt hiding from cameras specifficaly but hiding from heat seeking in general Also Maybe she didnt see when they implanted the chip but simply saw it after she woke up, like using a puddle as a mirror or when she was young enough to see her whole body by simply looking..
I know it will be even more infrequent but I kind of want to see a series of villains too smart to lose. Mostly talking about how there's some protagonists that won despite there being no logical way for them to do it.
Do you know who might fit into this category? Sauron. Aside from that whole "should have put guards around Mount Doom" part, he would have won. Even without him having the Ring and even with all the setbacks he suffered, the Free People would have been defeated. The only reason he lost was because Eru, the god that created everything in existence had to make Gollum trip and fall into the volcano alongside the One Ring. You know a villain is nigh-unstoppable when GOD himself had to intervene.
@@lisboah Counterpoint: Clearly there's a glitch in the One Ring plan since instead of being directly controlled by Sauron they can just end up being a weirdo in a cave for like 200 years.
I like how in the first movie every character has justifiable motives and if they do something stupid or wrong it’s still believable, then they just get dumber and more evil with every movie as Hollywood stopped trying. I mean, when the “heroes” are a man who raises raptors for fun and a woman who runs a dinosaur park, you’ve lost your understanding of what a hero is. Both of them would have killed had they been in Jurassic Park.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 There’s nothing inherently wrong with a woman running a park. The problem was that it’s a dinosaur park. And even worse, it was a dinosaur park creating impossibly dangerous dinosaurs in order to make more money. And it had terrible security that was not only inferior to the original movie but inferior to what we use for dangerous animals at regular zoos. She’s partly responsible for every death in the movie.
I would also like to add its stupid in my opinion because like three parks ended the exact same way, any intelligent business person would recognize for the last twenty years it’s ended in disaster and they’d only be one upping the last park in terms of stupidity and lawsuits. Quite frankly they might as well make the next ones plot that ingen trying to make domesticated full sized pet Dinos thinking that’s gonna go so well because that’s the level they’re at rn.
If im not mistaken from the books, alan knew about the movement base eyesight of rexy due to the frog dna statement and he made gambled on that during the trex escape. especially when he experimented it with the flares. thats when he knew. He wasnt at all moving, only his hands and the flare. malcolm copied but he was also running as he held his flare. edit : to be fair, lysine dependency was covered by the dinos as the herbivore dinos find alternative food that have lysine in the jungle, cant remember which but it was some kinda soy. and the carnivores get lysine from eating the herbivores. dieter dies was due to the compys having a mild poison in their saliva used to slow down larger/dying preys.
Nedry was planning to do more than simply drop the stolen embryos off at the dock, he was planning to abscond. It wouldn't have taking long for everyone else on the island to figure out that it was him that sabotaged the security systems and committed corporate espionage, so sticking around to be arrested for his part in the incident wouldn't make any sense.
I think the point is that he could have waited and tried a different day, one where there wasn't a tropical storm. Probably the dumber thing is that he thought he would ever get away with this in the first place- Hammond probably scoured the Earth trying to find him afterwards before realising he probably just died on the island.
@@jonathancampbell5231 Yeah but the whole part of him being able to do it was because there was a skeleton crew, specifically *because* of the tropical storm.
@@FluffyDragon He was planning it before the storm even happened and even Hammond and co didn't know about the storm until after the tour had started, and when they spotted it they hoped it would swing south. Dennis had no clue a storm was coming when he got the fake shaving cream or when he sat down at his desk that day. His plan didn't depend on a "skeleton crew due to storm" at all. The ship regularly takes Park employees to and from the island; the storm actually messed with the plan because it forced the ship to leave early and Dennis had to beg his contact to give him more time. He was just waiting for the ship to leave at its normal time before he set his plan in motion, but the storm complicated things. He could have just waited to try another day- he was impatient.
I honestly don't think he planned on leaving, if he was he wouldn't have needed the path to the boat to be clear of security(which is why he was taking the back route through the pens/tour area) because they wouldn't have discovered he was completely gone until long after the boat had left. It sounded(to me) like his plan was to steal the embryo's, take a back route through the pens and return, had Ray not messed with his computers and sent them into lockdown the park would have probably come back up on it's own with Nedry rushing in claiming ignorance and security camera's showing he didn't drive down to the docks. The T-Rex obviously fucked that plan up but nobody said Nedry was smart.
For Nedry, he set up the computer system without being told what most of it was for, due to InGen being highly secretive. Then when bugs started inevitably happening, they forced Nedry back to fix them, refusing to pay him the second time claiming that he was still under the terms of the original contract, threatening to press charges. So basically they squeezed a lot more work out of him than originally agreed on thanks to some legal jargon and their own incompetence and secrecy getting in the way.
“You’re implying that a group composed entirely of female animals will breed?” “Parthenogenesis, dipshit!” *laughs in Desert Grassland Whiptail Lizard*
I mean Ludlow's reaction to the Rex getting out isn't all that unrealistic. I remember there was a story about how on the set of the Twilight Zone movie an actor and two kids brutally died and the directors first though was "this is gonna ruin my career".
@@somethingcraft3148 Unfortunately yes, however it's very sad and messed up. So if you plan on looking it up I'm gonna give you a big warning. Also the actor's name was Vic Morrow.
Something to note about avian-esque hollow bones: Gram for gram, they are stronger and lighter than mammalian bones. Additionally, avians actually have greater skeletal weight by percentage of total body mass than mammals too. It's a myth that avians are delicate creatures, in reality they are terrifyingly durable. It's just that most birds we are familiar with are very small. Just look at a cassowary bird if you want to see true avian terror. *Edit:* To the people who think avian bones somehow are bad at handling torsion... One of the major things cited about them in biology papers is how well they handle torsion loads. Check facts before believing people on the internet.
@@marley7868 That has nothing to do with the misconception that avian bones are somehow weaker because they have hollow insides. In fact, the 'hollow' insides are criss crossed with webs of reinforcing calcium structure, instead of the rather weak marrow of mammal bones, which is part of why they are remarkably strong.
@@jesusramirezromo2037 There is literally no research that pops up with a cursory search to show that avian bones are 'weak to torsion' at all. Cite your sources.
Just a small correction, the plants weren't extinct species, they were current, modern plants. This is why the Triceratops was sick, because Hammond didn't understand the ecosystem and just thought the plants looked good.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 It's part of the reason I hated Season 3; basically nothing moves forward. Sure Homelander is "more powerful", but what progress was really made? Soldier Boy was pointless. Maeve was pointless. Stormfront was pointless. Neuman's campaign inching forward was the only narrative progress made. Everyone was in the same spot they started in.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 he's winning and coing out on top, so far. But he is an idiot and the show makes that clear. When he falls it will be partly due to his stupidity. He is too stupid to win, it's just not over yet.
33:00 - just for the record, Roland and Ajay are out looking for Dieter. They come back and Malcolm asks if they found "him" and Roland replies "just the part they didn't like."
8:58 There was a recent example of some modern dinosaurs performing parthenogenesis. So yeah, they 100% could have just bred anyway. Also it was hinted that the Compys in Jurassic Park had a mild venom. Their bites would have made their prey weak and incapable of fighting back.
Parthenogenesis was first reported among pigeons in 1924, and has since been noted in a few additional species: chicken, quail, zebra finches, and turkeys, all birds that humans intensively survey.
@@questionmaker5666 i always knew komodo dragons could do it, and as dinosaurs and birds use the same zz/zy sex system, probably could do it too, so i always thought it was a stupid idea to sue the frog dna. but now that i learned all those birds could do it, its highly probably the non-avian dinosaurs could do it too, makes the frog-dna even more stupid
I don't think I ever clicked on a video so fast 😅 I love Jurassic Park and was looking forward to it finally coming to the Villains Too Stupid To Exist.
I like Hamond in the first film because I can honestly believe the guy is just a guy who want to bring back dionsaurs, but underestimates what that means at *EVERY* turn.
They also radiated the dinosaurs in the book in an attempt to sterilize them. There was more than one layer of security there. Also the lawyer is super cool in the books. He legitimately looking out for safety during the tour. Also Hammond is the the greedy one who just wants to make money. The lawyer is a hero in the book who goes out into the park to look for the kids.
7:57 This demonstration run with Hammond talking to himself was a special for his guests and would be changed when the park was actually running. Whoever wrote the scene had probably been to a tech expo where pre-production units would use stand-in people for the demonstration, or the talking car had the voice of the car company chairman instead of the normal tapes with the lady, or whatnot.
Okay, my whole house shook from my bellowing laughter at the bit about the pilot flying towards the setting Sun. It's so true but in 28 years it never occured to me.
Claire and Owen are both 100% responsible for the Indom getting out. Had they reacted professionally the animal wouldn’t have gotten out and the park would have been fine until the volcano blew
Movement based eyesight. It's more like things in motion pop out and things standing still fade into the background. You can test this with a cat since they have it. At a distance of three to five meters walk into your cats field of view. The second the cat focuses on you stop and remain perfectly still. Your cat will freak out shifting its head from side to side trying to figure out why you disappeared. It's fun!
Wait a minute, Hammond didn’t bring in Ian Malcom. It was the lawyer, Donald Genaro, who brought Malcom in. (It’s been a long time since I read the book, but I think it might say somewhere that Hammond brought in Malcom because he thought Malcom would agree with him.) In the second scene, when Genaro’s in the amber mine, he says “I already got Ian Malcom, but they want Alan Grant.” Then later, when they’re eating, Hammond points at Grant and Sattler and says “you’re meant to come down here and defend me against these characters, and the only one I’ve got on my side is the blood-sucking lawyer.”
On top of everything else, they were so focused on their theme parks and military uses that they totally overlooked the most obvious and profitable application for the technology: Dinoburgers. A whole new chain of fast food and fine dining restaurants with meat exclusively supplied by the wranglers at Jurassic Ranch.
Nobody else ever mentions how Dennis putting up his hood is probably read as a threat beahaviour by the Dilophosaurus - glad it's not just me who thought that!
The idea that dinosaurs would make for a good military weapon is laughable. Oh you have T-Rexes in your army? Well my A-10's just went "brrrrrrrt" and now you have a lot of ground chuck. GG EZ. "dOn'T uNdErEsTiMaTe ThE pOwEr Of DiNoSaUrS!" Bitch, don't underestimate OUR power. You know how many species we render extinct without even trying?
I think Wu at one point says he wanted to make the dinos feathered and more like what they really looked like, but InGen insisted on him making them match pop-culture expectations. I could be misremembering though
No he said when the DNA is 100% pure the dinos would look totally opposite of what we thinks they looks like. So yeah Wu would actually leave dinos to be feathered if they had feathers, he wouldnt need to experiment
It's great that you put Tuvok in there. It's funny how a calm, rational, intelligent character really balances the craziness of stuff like space travel and dinosaurs. HEAR THAT J.J.!? Sorry some feels there. 😅 I saw Jurassic Park in a drive-in theater when I was 13, and it was a notable moment in my early life. I was mesmerized, so it all gets a pass from me. I've since read a lot of M.Cs books and I get what he was doing. They're all worth the time. R.I.P.
My head canon with grant knowing that T-Rex’s vision is movement based is he was trying to calm Ellie and stop her running, which would have absolutely led to them being attacked. He was probably thinking of dogs and how running will likely prompt an attack. He just got lucky
Yeah you would have to know there wouldn't be any sequels because this company would still be being sued into oblivion from the shenanigans from the first and second movies.
I don’t think you you realize nobody would have anything to gain from suing them in the first movie apart from the crew ont eh island at the time or their families which Ingen could probably still handle.
@@Clueless-political-guy Pretty sure the reckless endangerment of staff and innocents(one of whom was a lawyer) that resulted in death already lands them a criminal and several personal lawsuits. That in tandem with genetic creation of animals and plant life which can endanger more people and local wildlife opens them up to investigations/lawsuits, and potentially legal scrutiny from government based ecological groups. The amount of bad press killed Ingen in the movie series by the time world came out more than anything and it's why they were scooped up in the actual story.
Even as a kid, I was genuinely confused how the Rex pen was like 4 stories below, meaning Rexy was either floating or she stood on top of the tree to eat the goat. And makes sense that the tour most probably wouldn't see anything as they pass coz they would have needed to look down
The ditch isn’t where Rexy escaped from. It’s shown in the movie to be someways away when Muldoon and Sattler arrive. Where Rexy escaped was on the same level of ground as the trucks
@@mattpalmer1140 no. when Rexy knocks the 1st jeep off the ledge there's no level ground to its right where the goat should have been and no level ground to its left where it broke out, only the tree that extends to the lower ground where the 1st jeep was tossed into. In the breakout scene Rexy was seen on the same level of the jeep at the broken fence, while when Sattler came, she looked DOWN from the broken fence.
@@chucheeness7817 If you looked at canon blueprints ect. and watch Jurassic Park/world theorists/explanations they say that there was an area near the touring area of the Rex that was just tall enough for Rex’s to step on it and break the fences. It was likely made so that the guests actually could see it.
@@Clueless-political-guy thing is, I don't care about outside-the-movie explanations, especially "theories". I'm just about what are presented in the movie itself. So no, I have no reason to search anything up. It was not set up nor established in any sequence in the movie. It's an inconsistency that I can brush off because it doesn't detract from the overall experience, but it is still there. It would make sense, though, if there was an establishing scene that was cut.
Yes, much of this occurred to me when I first saw Jurassic Park in the theater. A new computer installation with cutting edge and unique programs on an island being set up so everything depends on computers? Nedry should have had 20 guys beneath him, or more likely been one of the 20 beneath a more competent boss. Software specialists, hardware specialists, troubleshooters, network specialists, etc. Yes, John, you spared expenses.
"Ian's terrifying teenager daughter". You always find a way to slay me with the simplest of lines. ::two thumbs up:: I kept falling asleep listening to this so it's like my 4th time through. Always have to listen to the end. Your observations are always welcomed and entertaining.
May I also point out how sending Sam Jackson's character, the only other person who we know can operate the computer system into raptor land to flip a stupid switch that literally anyone else could have been told where it was, was absolutely Ludacris
The only use I can think of for something like the Indoraptor or I-rex would be as a fear weapon; Similar to how the Galactic Empire creates weapons more designed to create fear, but at the cost of practicality
Huh, yeah Galactic Empire moved away from the practical Walker tanks to the tall AT-AT walkers that can be easily taken out with cables because they cared more about Fear Factor than practicality. I can see them using an Indoraptor to clear out an cave filled with insurgents, but I doubt they would last very long on the frontlines with soldiers shooting at anything that moves.
34:42 ill never forget that one guy looking back to see his friend attacked and then face forward and keep walking like nothing happened. Until he gets got a second later
I do appreciate how the first film and especially the book highlights how insane the park is. Ingen and Hammond are trying to make a Dinosaur Park but do not have time or money to take it slow, and so are cutting corners all over the place (computer glitches, toxic plant life, no freaking locks on the cars). Hammond and Ingen are idiots but you can believe how we got here. Contrast that with the idiots at Ingen in the Jurassic World movies: Why does the fully functioning park fail in the first movie? I'll keep it simple and just give it as steps: - Indomidus Rex camouflage itself (something no one guarding it knew it could do). Guards panic and assume it escaped the pen and immediately leave to investigate. - I.Rex has a GPS tracker in it that the Control Room says is still in the pen. Guards didn't wait to check with control before opening gate; I. Rex escapes pen out of open gate. - Capture Team is ambushed when I. Rex removes GPS from itself ("It remembered where it was injected"). Capture team was sent with only non-lethal weapons and is slaughtered. - There was only one Capture Team on site; Ingen CEO decides to take civilian helicopter with minigun to kill I. Rex. The helicopter ends up crashing into Pterodactyl enclosure and lets them loose onto the rest of the park. - Park is being evacuated, and Ingen sends in a PMC with 'trained' park raptors to kill I. Rex. Raptors prove unreliable and kill PMC troops. The subsequent films might as well have Ingen be replaced with Umbrella Corp.
8:40 : With 'Jurassic World', I always wanted them to revel that the 'Insidious' Dr. Wu has been the secret villain of the franchise from the beginning, as it was him that came up with the seemingly stupid idea of mixing frog DNA with Dino DNA. My 'Head Canon' was that he was a Bond Era bad guy, and he actually wanted to 'give the Earth back to the single 'species' that had ruled it the longest' (cliche, I know 😏). At leas t that would be a good reason behind all of the stupid decisions that InGen made, that yes, they were stupid, but one guy was secretly brilliant and had planned ALL of this from the start!
@@wolfiewoo3371 He doesn't, he's an insane 'Environmentalist', like the bad guys in the second recent Godzilla movie: Time to let the 'virus' of humanity be wiped out by letting the dinosaurs.....or Kaiju........take over (so no, the idea isn't original idea 😅)
@@MrChupacabra555 It didn't make sense in the Godzilla movie either. Dr. Emma Russell wants to release the Titans after the events of Godzilla 2014 where her son died. She's supposed to be a smart scientist but she's surprised when the monsters start destroying cities and killing people (Killing other people's children in the process too). Charles Dance's character doesn't fair much better either. He says humanity is bad because we have wars and stuff but he's also okay with releasing kaiju that could kill millions or even billions of people? Hypocritical much? And still I ask, how do the bad guys benefit from this? If you release all the Titans sure you might be able to destroy humanity but that also means you'd die too and, if you release all the Dinosaurs the world governments will probably hunt them to extinction in order to preserve the natural eco system. Dinosaurs aren't bulletproof.
@@wolfiewoo3371 Well, yeah. As I said, it would be an INSANE idea from a Mad Scientist. I think here and 'Everything Wrong With', and "How It Should Have Ended' have shown how stupid Military Attack Dinos would be: If you have to point a gun like object at your target to get the dino to attack, why not just use a gun in the first place? 😏
@@MrChupacabra555 That laser guided raptor thing was hilarious, it's ten times more complicated and more expensive than just shooting someone. And I must admit, the mad scientist idea is certainly much more interesting than whatever Wu's character is in the movies.
I'd argue that calling InGen villains (In the first film anyway) is a bit of a stretch, but I can't exactly argue afterwards. EDIT: I'd say that a Feathered Raptor would be just as scary as the Fake-Raptors. 🤣 But fair enough.
You know what's interesting about Nedry "not fathoming the danger" of shutting down the fences? He did, at least somewhat, as he went out of his way to not shut down the raptor fences. He just grossly underestimated how dangerous the other dinos were as well.
He also had reasonable guess that dinosaurs had learned that touching fence means pain and avoid it. Raptors were just too stubborn to learn it and kept trying over and over.
When you were listing all of the ingredients of the Indominus Rex, I could not help but think of that bit in futurama: "I've combined all the DNA of the most evil animals to make the most evil creature of them. All".... "Turns out it's man"
President john snow from the hunger games should be on this list. His plan to quell the growing discontent in catching fire by making the champions fight again was the equivalent of pouring gasoline on a fire.
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1. IOI - Ready Player One
2. Biosyn - Jurassic World Dominion
3. Ultron - Avengers: Age of Ultron
4. Carnegie - The Book of Eli
5. The League of Shadows - The Dark Knight trilogy
You should do the Klingons.
The Covenant from the Halo franchise seem like a good candidate. There is some good lore to dig into that really exposes them as incompetent or grossly overconfident.
Why not make a vegetarian that looks like a carnivore
What you think about real world zoos they have carnivores
My suggestions for Villains Too Stupid to Win:
•Slade, _Teen Titans_ (2003)
•The Skekses, _The Dark Crystal_ (1982), _TDC: Age of Resistance_ (2019)
•Lex Luthor, _Superman_ films (1978-1987, 2006)
•Aku, _Samurai Jack_ (2001-2004, 2017)
My suggestions for Advanced Sci-Fi Civilizations Too Stupid to Really Exist:
•Time Lords, _Doctor Who_
•Children of Tama, _Star Trek_
•Oceania, _Nineteen Eighty-Four_ (1984)
The film version of Hammond isn't what I'd call a villain. He just had delusions of grandeur and is stubborn. The novel version is actually villainous. He constantly denies anything is wrong, is cheap, treats basically everyone that works for him apart from Dr. Wu like they are expendable, and at the end right before he is killed by the Procompsognathus admits that he dislikes his own grandchildren. He was a complete egomaniac as well.
How similar are the grandchildren in the book? Because if they are like the movie versions, i don't blame them.
@@ljpal18 Tim is the older sibling and far less annoying. Lex is the younger brat, her father's favorite, is whiney and almost gets the group killed several times.
@@Thoralmir Tim in the book was a pretty cool kid, I looked up to him, seeing as I first read the book when I was like, 8 or so. Lex was a sh*tty little brat, from what I can remember. Malcolm was weird and endlessly fascinating.
@Mircea Zaharia
Malcolm ramblings in the book were both fascination and out right scary
@@ljpal18 you should read it, it’s very different. Hell half of the book got moved to the next two movies (at least in concept)
Calling Hammond Jurassic Santa was awesome being that the actor played Santa
Disappointed he didn't cut to a clip of Miracle on 34th Street
Weirdly enough, I did not know that. He was obviously made for the role.
clever girl
@@MediaZealot he's also the brother of David Attenborough, AKA: the voice on just about every planet earth movie
@@MediaZealot Alright I say in pure unironics that the Feathered Raptors look much cooler and more unique. We already have Dragons being the giant lizards of media, having birds but more badass looking immediately made me dislike the Hollywood-mutant versions, and Dr Wu pretty much admits in Jurassic World that the Dinos are just mutants curated for marketability.
In the original novel, Hammond is more overtly greedy and corrupt but doesn’t get away Scott free. He falls down a hill and breaks his ankle and is eaten alive by the compys.
Also, it’s ironic how Gennaro, the lawyer, is the cowardly one in the movie, when in the book he fought a raptor with his bare hands.
The movie also switched the roles of the kids. The useless idiot was the girl. How a girl knows so much about computers was astonishing.
I enjoy the movie Hammond more honestly. It helps goes with the theme of the hubris of man, despite his good intentions.
i wish we could have seen that. Did he die in the book too?
@@dustyrose192 Gennaro makes it out alive, only to die of dysentry between the end of Jurassic Park and the beginning of The Lost World. Much of movie Gennaro's behaviour is the result of merging him with another character called Regis who's death scene was given to Gennaro. Book Gennaro is actually pretty skeptical of the park and actually helps fight the raptors (reluctantly but successfully).
Oddly enough Malcolm actually died in the novel, only for Goldblum's portrayal to be so popular that the sequel retconned that he had been nigh miraculously revived.
Most of the cast are changed to one degree or another for the film; book Grant is fond of children, considerably older and not in a relationship with Ellie, Wu is killed by the raptors, while Muldoon not only survives but successfully takes down several raptors. Indeed the human cast prove far more able to engage the dinosaurs and kill them than their film counterparts.
@@dustyrose192 Hammond dies but Gennaro makes it out ok.
I'd like to point out that, even among social species with definite languages like wolves and dolphins, different groups develop different vocal patterns when isolated from one another. The only explanation for how the Indominus is able to communicate with the raptors is adding mind reading to his list of abilities.
In that case maybe InGen had a point with the whole WarDinos pet project.
Behold the power of script writing - giving out new powers and abilities as the plot demands!
No fool, you have human DNA, so therefore you can communicate with every human being; regardless of language barriers. 🙄
@@NextToToddliness How do that work again... fool? Do you just go to France and start communicating with anyone by speaking... ENGLISH VERY LOUD AND SLOW?
@@NextToToddliness I see you speak fluent humaneze
The book explicitly says they made the dinosaurs scaly because of bad genetic filling, Wu expresses they could have made them feathery but they wanted to give people what they expected not what was authentic, and even offered to make them slower and less dangerous to which Hammond said no, he wanted them as real as possible.
A discussion that Ian nods toward in the second movie when talking about them being theme park monsters, not dinosaurs.
@chandllerburse737realistically if this place was real and made the scientific leaps they made despite some inauthenticity it would've been worthwhile
@Jiub_SN also they definitely would've made them less dangerous if given the chance to because in order to have a profitable business like this. Safety needs to come first and foremost
@Pixel22-fs3tt but that couldn't have happened in the movie, otherwise the movie couldn't happen. Some movies ask you to suspend your disbelief to breaking point. Jurassic Park is easily one of them.
@deandrenicholas2545 The Law Of Narrative Causality strikes again
I love how this slowly morphs from "one man was deliberately ignorant" to "literally everyone is some combination of psychotic, suicidal, and stupid." Really shows the difference in writing quality.
It also shows one of the problems with having a franchise where in each story things have to go catastrophically wrong for the plot to happen.
And egomaniacal
Ian's iconic line in the 1st movie about scientists (movie producers in this case) not thinking whether they should and pumping out products is more relevant than ever.
I would argue that the reason it is well known that single sex species can reproduce is because of jurassic park.
The latter definitely reads closer to reality from where I'm sitting
I love how they named their new creation "Indominus Rex". It implies that, from an early stage, they were perfectly aware that they couldn´t maintain control over that thing (which is bad, obviously) and still decided to keep going.
no it doesn't. It just implies they thought the name sounded cool (and I'm talking about the movie people, not the fictional characters).
Likely by observing its behavior early on they came up with the very apt name. I find it quite fitting as well. Jurassic World is an awesome movie
One could say they were so preoccupied with whether they could that they never asked if they should.
Apperantly they chose Indominus because they wanted something scary yet easy to pronounce.
It's less scary when you realize Indominus rex actually means "non lord king".
@alexandresobreiramartins9461 Indominus is basically Indomitable which means unconquerable
Fun fact, Muldoon survives in the book. While he still gets ambushed, he shoots a few of them before getting a leg injury and legging it to some nearby pipes left behind by the construction crew that are big enough for him to slide into but small enough the Raptors can't follow. Always bugged me that Spielberg killed him off.
That's for sharing what happened in the book, I forgotten. I'm ok with him dying as it ups the stakes with someone from the main cast (aide from Nedry) dying so in the end we would feel the main group could die before the T-Rex saves them.
And he's super badass and blows up a raptor with a rocket launcher
@@user-uy1rg8td1v They could have come with more raptors or the Dilopho. I mean InGen still breeded new raptors despite the fact that they needed to put them in a solitary cell and since the dinos managed to dodge Wus birth control regime long before the first movie occured.
Apparently the actor had cancer and wasn't going to be around for any potential sequels either way.
In the book Muldoon wanted military-grade weapons such as TOW missile launchers to be able to control the big dinos if they escaped,but Hammond overruled him on most of it. He only got one launcher and rockets because he threatened to go the the press.
"The Homelander of dinosaurs" is the most apt pop-culture analogue for the Indominus Rex I've personally ever heard. Kudos!
The endo raptor always annoyed me. It’s the opposite of what you would want from a battlefield animal. It’s too big to feed, store or transport. Its constantly aggressive. The only way they can command it to attack specific targets is with a rifle which could just take out the target in and of itself. But most of all it’s way too expensive for something that could be shot to death in its first outing.
personally i think they should have replaced the atrociraptor scene in dominion with a nighttime parkarea indoraptor scene, where 2-3 indoraptors with all the abilitie sof the indominus hunt the main cast. Intelligence, camouflage, heatvision, radiojamming.
The indoraptor could learn something about tracking from Mr X who was sent after the Raccoon City Police to kill them and Nemesis who was programmed to track down S.T.A.R.S.
Let's add that it's still a WILD animal, there is still the chance it will attack it's trainers much less choose not to attack its targets.
Let's just admit it's one of the dumbest ideas in movie history lol
You would get better results at a fraction of the cost just using a missile.
One of the best examples! Spared no expense, except where it mattered.
Making Hammond likeable was one of the better changes made from the book imo. Pretty sure the kid at the dig site was there with his parents, probably against his will. Wasn't Rowland looking for Dieter?
Praise Jurassic Santa ! 🙌🏾
I kinda want to see Wicked from the Maze Runner series, they trap dozens of teenagers in mazes where many are killed with them being immune to the virus, they then harvest them and treat them horribly while believing they are the saviors of humanity and one of them shoots the person who created the cure
Doesn't already exist?
Thanks for the Spoiler
@@jailcatjones3250 The second you saw “they trap” you should’ve stopped reading.
And they spend billions to build giant mazes to cause stress in teenagers as if the streets full of zombies aren't enough...
I love how the Scorched Trials movie completely undermines the entire point of the maze with the harvesting shenanigans. Bold move.
To be fair, humans aren't exactly the strongest or fastest things in the world. The raptors may very well be targeting them simply because everything else is faster, stronger, or both.
Even in paleontology, raptors weren't as fast as Jurassic Park's raptors, showing how the genetic tampering made them "genetically engineered theme park monsters".
True but REAL raptors were actually not great runners/chasers. Their legs weren’t long or sturdy enough like a human, canine, or ratite for long runs. They were mostly ambush predators. A fit human may not out-speed a raptor but they would probably outrun them eventually.
@@SRGIProductions yes being wasted on a theme park when with more engineering they would be near unstoppable terror troops.
If I remember right, Hammond lied to Nedry about what the job actually was. It was supposed to be way simpler than it was. But instead of Nedry being able to back out or rebid Hammond had lawyers draw up a contract with hidden lines that kept him from leaving, basically legally locking him into being Hammond personal programing slave, as the issues were impossible to fix without spending a ton of money that Hammond refused to spend.
Ya that was the book I remember
That might be something that was different from the books as I recall in the movie there was supposed to be a team but they were out at Cambridge.
Hammond may actually have thought he was sparing no expense but his bean counters, doing what bean counters do, may have cut costs without telling Hammond.
Fucking bean counters ruin everything
That's actually implied with the 'Chilean Sea Bass' thing when he has his one-on-one with Doctor Satler in the first film. For those who don't know Chilean Sea Bass is mostly just a marketing term and not an actual fish, often it isn't even caught anywhere near Chile itself and ends up being other low quality fish types sold at a markup.
So it's quite possible the InGen bean counters were doing the typical corner-cutting that comes with the job or, and equally likely, that Hammond was throwing huge sums of money around without really knowing what he was actually buying/paying for.
@@S3Cs4uN8 I would say both are equally likely. Not to mention Nedry intentionally sabotaged practically every system in the park.
I always thought he was just lying in the film as a part of his bs sales pitch.
My favorite saying is "Any idiot can build a bridge, it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands"
Sometimes experts will do what they "know" is good enough when a normal person would go away above and beyond.
I always liked the theory that Ingen and Hammond didn’t get that DNA like they said and just created the creatures how they wanted to make them marketable.
Considering that real life DNA starts falling apart after 1,5 million jears that's not a bad idea.
We may never have living dinosaurs again but a ice age park with some moas mixed in would still be possible.
@@molybdaen11 their trying to clone a woolly mammoth by using an elephant as a surgot mother
I think that was discussed in the novel.
The films not yet, though it would explain why the dinos arent real.
@@molybdaen11 That's not very accurate. DNA starts degrading almost as soon as the organism dies, even though multiple factors can preserve it for longer. The oldest DNA recovered to date was 2 million years old, but they're very small fragments.
The idea of reviving ice age animals such as mamoths relies on much more recent DNA (just about 10k years old) and still needs complementing from modern species like indian elephants.
@@JPOG7TV It did explain in JW tho, Wu said that nothing in the Park is authentic or else the dinosaurs would look much more different. The dinosaurs which we saw in the OG Jurassic Park are already hybrid
As bad as Ingen is, we should be thankful that it wasn't Unbrella Corp or worse, Weyland-Yutani, who was in charge.
I think umbrella is the worse out of all 3 of them when you realize zombies are about 5 percent of the what you can encounter plus Nemesis makes the indoraptor look small time when it comes to tracking and killing a target, and since he's a Tyrant class he doesn't die when you put him down he mutates into a different stage. Everything in resident evil has another stage it evolves into even the zombies.
Imagine Indominus with xeno DNA in the mix.
@@javonyounger5107 might be a tough one since the xenomorphs are already a created species by the Engineers and were designed to work in extreme environments.
@@kaizenchaosprimordial8945 those zombies were an accident anyway.
Damn that would be scary.
Nedry wasn't the only programmer, he was just on site to fix the issues during the rollout(they try and call his team in Cambridge when he disappears but the phones are out). So he basically set up a reason for him to be on site so he could steal the embryo's but isn't normally there by himself as InGen would have their own IT team for day to day.
I just wish we saw the normal IT team as it just seems it's just Nedry.
But he didn’t so much anything as much as causing them 🤡🤡🤡
" It's almost like they're out for revenge" I never thought of that before, now this new take makes me want to watch JP again.
really?
Well, who were the ones caging them again, Sparkee?
Nedry wasn't stupid. He was arrogant & greedy & a criminal, but wasn't really stupid. If it wasn't for a random Hurricane, he'd have got away & been set for life
He was stupid for not delaying the plan once the random hurricane showed up.
It's not like he's on any kind of timetable for his corporate malfeasance.
I thought the hurricane was the reason a full IT wasn't there.
Was he even arrogant and greedy? He was being exploited and paid absolutely fuck all for doing literally a whole department's work. I think anyone would decide their boss can eat leather for that one.
@@Mglue3 No, but it is why the catering staff etc weren't there
He was pretty stupid to drive the car like that and then get out of it and walk toward a Dino 😂😂
As much as I love Old Man Hammond, the "spared no expense" line goes through my head and I see all the penny pinching aspects of the original park. Hammond is definitely not malicious but he certainly fits "Villains too stupid"....and HE WAS THE SMART ONE. InGen gets worse without him.
he threw the money and told them to spare no expense so I can't really hold it against him he clearly didn't mind spending the money and seemed proud of how much he spent to make it perfect seems more like that money got embezzled/intentionally wasted without his knowledge
This vid didn't even feel an hour long it was so enjoyable and spot on.
Note if your sending a Team to a dangerous island have people on guard duty around your encampment to look out for predators or dangerous humans and have a guard rotation throughout the night. Also in a dangerous environment you should have back up radio phones and equipment just in case your one radio gets destroyed.
Oh yeah and your guards should be heavily armed with a machine gun, pistol and a knife.
This feels like common sense
You're demanding way too much forethinking and intelligence from Hollywood writers.
@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 More like movie vs reality, because what I am talking about is what people would be doing in real life, but in fiction you have to make the characters stupid so that it would create an action scene with those dinos.
@@Valkbg Yeah that it common sense is what I was going for.
"He's exploiting.. your enchantment.. with these."
That genuinely feels like an admission from the writers that the World trilogy is a shameless cash grab that exploits the fondness people have for both dinosaurs and the original Jurassic Park.
I thought Dominion was pretty decent. Not great, but not stupid like FK
@@greenkoopa wasn't dominion the one where the random nanny gets randomly, brutally eviscerated by dinos?
@@GameTimeWhy I think that was the first one. And it was the pterodactyls.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 oh right. Yeah that was ridiculous.
@@GameTimeWhy Definitely over-the-top violence there. But I think the actress had a good time with it. They kinda had her bungee jumping into a pool of water to get the shots.
Ellie: How can we know anything about an extinct eco system.
Grant: Stares awkwardly at his feet.
I never realized just how stupid her question was until reading your comment 😂
Ellie: "How can we know anything about an extinct ecosystem?"
Grant: "Are our careers and areas of expertise a joke to you?"
Grant: BRUH
Scientist: “It’s okay, the Dinos can’t breed because they’re all female.”
Also Scientist: “Haha, frog DNA go brrrrr!”
its even funnier when you consider the parthenogenesis that blue did in dominion has been onserved in birds, like pidgeons, ad as dinosaurs are basicl ancient birds, they all been able to do it, the whole frog-dna excuse was not needed
The irony that John Hammond in real life was related to probably the most famous conservationist of all time should not be lost
It’s my head cannon theory that is a renounced conservationist called David Hammond in that universe, who took all the familial prestige, leaving John to get jealous enough to create the Park.
At least his brother was a good fit to lead Stargate Command.
Muldoon: "So here are my options. Option A, shoot the Raptor Immediately. Option B, compliment the raptor, take a claw to the face and die."
*Raptor pounces.
Muldoon: "Should have gone with A."
The raptor was inches from his face and could slash his throat faster than he could re-aim the shotgun.
@@worldofdoom995 It's from Kung Pao: Enter the Fist.
@@worldofdoom995Not only that, he knows there’s two other raptors waiting for him to move so best case scenario, he swings the gun at the Raptor who jumped him only to get ripped apart by the other two.
@That Guy. sorry didn't get the reference
@frankcastle498 no worries. :) It's a weird but imho hilarious movie. I recommend it if you like kinda off beat humor.
When I first saw Jurassic Park, I never understood why Dennis was so happy about getting a leather bag. Literally after seeing that scene in this video it finally dawned on me. It was full of cash. How am I this old and just now connecting those dots?
17:20 One solutino I've seen suggested was to simply dig large pits in the ground, and have the dinosaurs in said pits. Completely safe and escape-proof.
Except for the raptors that they spliced with worm DNA
@@vovin8132 Or the Indominus' teleportation abilites.
@@Aredel yup. All good bad guys can teleport
What about a cement lined pit with a moat in it and electric electric fence on top
It's what they do at real life zoos. Some even add a mote around it.
The only time in my life a wish I made legitimately came true; its 1994, its summer, I'm 9.
JP marketing is unlike *anything* I've ever experienced before, every free toy, every TV spot, every newspaper insert, it was *everywhere!* Almost certainly my first exposure to "hype".
It worked.
- Now, we never went without as children; but there were 7 of us including Mum and Dad and only Dad worked, so we weren't exactly well off (no carpets in most of the rooms, single pane windows, one room with heating, etc)..
We didn't expect anything and wouldn't ask for a Freddo let alone a cinema trip...
On the walk home from school one Friday, probably while talking about Jurassic Park, I say to my big brother _"Ooo I wish we could go and see Jurassic Park!"..._ I can distinctly remember the feeling of longing I felt when I said it, *knowing* it would never happen.. I can feel the weight in my heart, the warmth of the sun, I can smell the trees, everything..
We get in from school, I go upstairs to get out of my uniform. Mum calls upstairs shortly afterwards
_"put proper clothes on, we're going out!"_
Expecting the semi-usual treat of a summer evening walk up to Kneller Park or Twickenham Riverside, I excitedly get ready...
That's when I hear it... the rumour... disparate and unclear at first... panic and excitement... _What did she say? WHAT DID SHE SAY?!_
Confirmation.
We're going to the Cinema to see Jurassic Park.
To this day, I have no idea how she did it.. all 5 of us plus her tickets, bus fare, popcorn, drinks in a collectable plastic cup that were probably overpriced as hell... it must've cost her a fortune..
The first film I ever saw at the cinema.
pure magic, I honestly felt like the single luckiest person on earth, I was *beaming*
Tears in my eyes, one of my absolute favourite memories, hands down one of the best days of my life - love you, Mum ❤
Why don’t the gyro ball tour devices in Jurassic World have a mass recall feature is a question I have asked every time this movie is mentioned.
*_"sParEd No eXpEnsE."_*
Because that would end the film too quickly…
Because that’s not exactly an easy thing to do. Do you see go karts having that feature, for example? I sure haven’t yet. I get these videos are fun to watch but they point out stupid decisions characters make and then turn around and suggest equally stupid or non viable ideas…
from an engineering standpoint the simpler and more effective solution would be to have a team on standby to get people who weren’t coming back. They did have this team but they were busy with the chaos that ensued with the park wide recall.
I've heard tesla cars can drive themselves back to the dealership so its not unthinkable that they could do that with the balls.
@@DeadSexyAdamCheney Yeah, after it makes a bee-line for the nearest biker or stop sign.
I’m surprised they never decided to install literal kill switches on the dinosaurs, but I suppose that would be too easy.
They did I’m pretty sure. They said they fed engineered dinosaurs to not get some necessary protein from the wild, so they’d only get it from pills or something. I don’t remember if it was the novel or movie or both that said that though
@@Woopor That's the lysine dependency, mentioned in the video. Although that's also in the book, so I think it's an honest mistake writing-wise and doesn't really apply to the Villains Being Stupid theme of the video.
I always loved the "We would never reopen part" f... off like no park ever had accidents happen and reopened just fine!
If it is managed well and nobody is harmed, the majority of people wouldnt even think about it again.
The whole Indominus rex genome thing bothers me so much. It just sounds like they just slapped together some random pieces of DNA and waited what will happen. It's a miracle they even managed to get a live specimen. I would guess that whatever sort of misshapen creature that could come out of such approach would be lucky to even start developing.
Yeah, it's amazing how so many people think DNA works like Lego bricks.
ingen must have developed tracker implants that grew with the dinos cause I-Rex supposedly remembered where they planted hers (which I assume they could only safely do at birth or in infancy) but it's the size of a flashlight when they find it after she breaks out
No wonder she remembered
I remember in the video game "operation genesis" you really could spare no expense. Giant reinforced steel walls that maintain integrity without power connected, machine gun turrets in the visitor's area, rangers on helicopters with anti material rifles, and security checkpoints that served as chokepoints that dinosaurs couldn't pass in the event of a lockdown.
Yeah. I really could spare no expense.
@Chandller Burse Why not one disaster followed by another?
"I spared no expenses"
Tanks instead of cars for the tour
Have you heard of Jurassic World Evolution 1 and 2?
I really appreciate the hard work this channel puts into its videos.
It actually spares no expense.
It also turns out that tiny raptor pen wasn't their original, intended enclosure: it was an animal quarantine pen, some place vets stash sick animals for treatment. The raptors were put there until their main enclosure could be better secured and reinforced because, as Muldoon explained, they were "attacking the fences when the feeders came... But they never attack the same place twice. They were testing the fences for weaknesses systematically. They remember."
Hey Media Zelot: If you haven't already got videos planned for them, could you talk about some of the members of Spectre from the James Bond franchise who had dumb plans?
Classic SPECTRE or Craig Spectre?
@@jonathancampbell5231 more likely Craig Spectre.
@@Bl4ckD0g Honestly, why not both? I'm no expert but I'm sure classic Bond had some doozies
@@jonathancampbell5231 I'd say Craig SPECTRE, if just because while a lot of classic Spectre's plans could seem goofy, at least their organisation's stated goal was to make a profit, as opposed to existing primarily to fuck with the founder's foster brother, all because the founder resented his dad giving said traumatised foster brother more attention.
@@JamesTobiasStewart wait Craig Spectre is just Dr. Evil and Austin Powers? Oof
39:55, this is hands down the funniest channel I have experienced in a long time.
The damn Tuvoc references still making me cackle like a mad man.
Good job dude! Perfect.
The funniest bit is learning new studies suggesting the biggest dinosaurs like the T-Rex may be the smartest ones as well. So genetically altered ones to be smarter would be as smart as humans.
Take the baboon iq T.rex thing with a grain of salt my guy. It's not as viable as you'd think.....
This is a fair point, I had never thought of it that way but it puts a new level of danger to the I Rex (not that we couldn’t see that it was highly intelligent already)
The Indominus had to have an iq above 200 or something. It came up with ideas that not even the most intelligent humans could have figured out. Look at when she somehow realised that her cage is being watched by heat sensors, and that she can hide from them. Or when she was able to figure out that the humans will go inside her fence to check the claw marks, because its totally logical that a 10 ton animal can just climb out of its cage. She also remembered where did the humans put the tracker, while she was most likely put to sleep before the implanting process.
The Indominus is only as intelligent as the script demands it, and that means she is hyper intelligent sometimes, but not as much in other scenes
This is the dumbest logic I’ve ever heard
@@tamas9554 i think she wasnt hiding from cameras specifficaly but hiding from heat seeking in general
Also
Maybe she didnt see when they implanted the chip but simply saw it after she woke up, like using a puddle as a mirror or when she was young enough to see her whole body by simply looking..
I know it will be even more infrequent but I kind of want to see a series of villains too smart to lose. Mostly talking about how there's some protagonists that won despite there being no logical way for them to do it.
Seconded.
Do you know who might fit into this category? Sauron.
Aside from that whole "should have put guards around Mount Doom" part, he would have won. Even without him having the Ring and even with all the setbacks he suffered, the Free People would have been defeated.
The only reason he lost was because Eru, the god that created everything in existence had to make Gollum trip and fall into the volcano alongside the One Ring. You know a villain is nigh-unstoppable when GOD himself had to intervene.
@@lisboah Counterpoint: Clearly there's a glitch in the One Ring plan since instead of being directly controlled by Sauron they can just end up being a weirdo in a cave for like 200 years.
I like how in the first movie every character has justifiable motives and if they do something stupid or wrong it’s still believable, then they just get dumber and more evil with every movie as Hollywood stopped trying.
I mean, when the “heroes” are a man who raises raptors for fun and a woman who runs a dinosaur park, you’ve lost your understanding of what a hero is. Both of them would have killed had they been in Jurassic Park.
What's wrong with a woman running a park?
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 There’s nothing inherently wrong with a woman running a park. The problem was that it’s a dinosaur park. And even worse, it was a dinosaur park creating impossibly dangerous dinosaurs in order to make more money. And it had terrible security that was not only inferior to the original movie but inferior to what we use for dangerous animals at regular zoos. She’s partly responsible for every death in the movie.
he wasn't rasing them for fun. it was a specifically funded project. as his boss thought they could be used in the military
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 Nothing. She's just really incompetent at her job.
I would also like to add its stupid in my opinion because like three parks ended the exact same way, any intelligent business person would recognize for the last twenty years it’s ended in disaster and they’d only be one upping the last park in terms of stupidity and lawsuits. Quite frankly they might as well make the next ones plot that ingen trying to make domesticated full sized pet Dinos thinking that’s gonna go so well because that’s the level they’re at rn.
If im not mistaken from the books, alan knew about the movement base eyesight of rexy due to the frog dna statement and he made gambled on that during the trex escape. especially when he experimented it with the flares. thats when he knew. He wasnt at all moving, only his hands and the flare. malcolm copied but he was also running as he held his flare.
edit : to be fair, lysine dependency was covered by the dinos as the herbivore dinos find alternative food that have lysine in the jungle, cant remember which but it was some kinda soy. and the carnivores get lysine from eating the herbivores.
dieter dies was due to the compys having a mild poison in their saliva used to slow down larger/dying preys.
In the book Grant chastises the kid for even suggesting that the T Rex could only see motion.
Nedry was planning to do more than simply drop the stolen embryos off at the dock, he was planning to abscond. It wouldn't have taking long for everyone else on the island to figure out that it was him that sabotaged the security systems and committed corporate espionage, so sticking around to be arrested for his part in the incident wouldn't make any sense.
I think the point is that he could have waited and tried a different day, one where there wasn't a tropical storm.
Probably the dumber thing is that he thought he would ever get away with this in the first place- Hammond probably scoured the Earth trying to find him afterwards before realising he probably just died on the island.
@@jonathancampbell5231 Yeah but the whole part of him being able to do it was because there was a skeleton crew, specifically *because* of the tropical storm.
@@FluffyDragon He was planning it before the storm even happened and even Hammond and co didn't know about the storm until after the tour had started, and when they spotted it they hoped it would swing south. Dennis had no clue a storm was coming when he got the fake shaving cream or when he sat down at his desk that day.
His plan didn't depend on a "skeleton crew due to storm" at all. The ship regularly takes Park employees to and from the island; the storm actually messed with the plan because it forced the ship to leave early and Dennis had to beg his contact to give him more time. He was just waiting for the ship to leave at its normal time before he set his plan in motion, but the storm complicated things.
He could have just waited to try another day- he was impatient.
I honestly don't think he planned on leaving, if he was he wouldn't have needed the path to the boat to be clear of security(which is why he was taking the back route through the pens/tour area) because they wouldn't have discovered he was completely gone until long after the boat had left. It sounded(to me) like his plan was to steal the embryo's, take a back route through the pens and return, had Ray not messed with his computers and sent them into lockdown the park would have probably come back up on it's own with Nedry rushing in claiming ignorance and security camera's showing he didn't drive down to the docks. The T-Rex obviously fucked that plan up but nobody said Nedry was smart.
@@jonathancampbell5231 Ah, fair play then, I remember that wrong, what you said does ring a bell and sound right, yeah
For Nedry, he set up the computer system without being told what most of it was for, due to InGen being highly secretive. Then when bugs started inevitably happening, they forced Nedry back to fix them, refusing to pay him the second time claiming that he was still under the terms of the original contract, threatening to press charges.
So basically they squeezed a lot more work out of him than originally agreed on thanks to some legal jargon and their own incompetence and secrecy getting in the way.
“You’re implying that a group composed entirely of female animals will breed?”
“Parthenogenesis, dipshit!” *laughs in Desert Grassland Whiptail Lizard*
For crocodiles the sex of the eggs can change how hot or cold it gets.
*Clownfish laughing in the background*
I mean Ludlow's reaction to the Rex getting out isn't all that unrealistic.
I remember there was a story about how on the set of the Twilight Zone movie an actor and two kids brutally died and the directors first though was "this is gonna ruin my career".
is this real?
@@somethingcraft3148 Unfortunately yes, however it's very sad and messed up. So if you plan on looking it up I'm gonna give you a big warning. Also the actor's name was Vic Morrow.
Something to note about avian-esque hollow bones: Gram for gram, they are stronger and lighter than mammalian bones. Additionally, avians actually have greater skeletal weight by percentage of total body mass than mammals too. It's a myth that avians are delicate creatures, in reality they are terrifyingly durable. It's just that most birds we are familiar with are very small. Just look at a cassowary bird if you want to see true avian terror.
*Edit:* To the people who think avian bones somehow are bad at handling torsion... One of the major things cited about them in biology papers is how well they handle torsion loads. Check facts before believing people on the internet.
maybe but there also weak to weight applied in a certain way such as a fist which don't really help
They're strong against certain hits we aren't strong against
But fragile against torsion
@@marley7868 That has nothing to do with the misconception that avian bones are somehow weaker because they have hollow insides. In fact, the 'hollow' insides are criss crossed with webs of reinforcing calcium structure, instead of the rather weak marrow of mammal bones, which is part of why they are remarkably strong.
@@kauske you said they were stronger an lighter not appreciably so in either and notably weak to something mammalian aren't so it is relavent
@@jesusramirezromo2037 There is literally no research that pops up with a cursory search to show that avian bones are 'weak to torsion' at all. Cite your sources.
Just a small correction, the plants weren't extinct species, they were current, modern plants. This is why the Triceratops was sick, because Hammond didn't understand the ecosystem and just thought the plants looked good.
Ethier way It produced some mega dino shit.
Speaking of Homelander I can't wait for an inevitable Boys themed episode, Vought and Homelander himself would make for good candidates for this show.
Yes, please. That would be great.
homelander at least in terms of the end of Season 3, is more powerful than ever and has barely had a single setback
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 It's part of the reason I hated Season 3; basically nothing moves forward. Sure Homelander is "more powerful", but what progress was really made? Soldier Boy was pointless. Maeve was pointless. Stormfront was pointless. Neuman's campaign inching forward was the only narrative progress made. Everyone was in the same spot they started in.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 he's winning and coing out on top, so far. But he is an idiot and the show makes that clear. When he falls it will be partly due to his stupidity. He is too stupid to win, it's just not over yet.
@@MachineMan-mj4gj That's just factually incorrect.
22:14 The editing cutting back to Grant figuring out how to fasten his seat belts during this explanation is just perfect
33:00 - just for the record, Roland and Ajay are out looking for Dieter. They come back and Malcolm asks if they found "him" and Roland replies "just the part they didn't like."
8:58 There was a recent example of some modern dinosaurs performing parthenogenesis. So yeah, they 100% could have just bred anyway.
Also it was hinted that the Compys in Jurassic Park had a mild venom. Their bites would have made their prey weak and incapable of fighting back.
Parthenogenesis was first reported among pigeons in 1924, and has since been noted in a few additional species: chicken, quail, zebra finches, and turkeys, all birds that humans intensively survey.
@@questionmaker5666 i always knew komodo dragons could do it, and as dinosaurs and birds use the same zz/zy sex system, probably could do it too, so i always thought it was a stupid idea to sue the frog dna. but now that i learned all those birds could do it, its highly probably the non-avian dinosaurs could do it too, makes the frog-dna even more stupid
I don't think I ever clicked on a video so fast 😅 I love Jurassic Park and was looking forward to it finally coming to the Villains Too Stupid To Exist.
I like Hamond in the first film because I can honestly believe the guy is just a guy who want to bring back dionsaurs, but underestimates what that means at *EVERY* turn.
They also radiated the dinosaurs in the book in an attempt to sterilize them. There was more than one layer of security there.
Also the lawyer is super cool in the books. He legitimately looking out for safety during the tour. Also Hammond is the the greedy one who just wants to make money. The lawyer is a hero in the book who goes out into the park to look for the kids.
7:57 This demonstration run with Hammond talking to himself was a special for his guests and would be changed when the park was actually running. Whoever wrote the scene had probably been to a tech expo where pre-production units would use stand-in people for the demonstration, or the talking car had the voice of the car company chairman instead of the normal tapes with the lady, or whatnot.
So glad to see another installment in this series, amazing video!
"I'd rather be searching the coast for a row boat. There must be something around here. A seaworthy log would do."
OMFG I laughed so hard.
It's funny like how in deep blue sea, the facility is always run by a skeleton crew when the main group comes to visit
Bravo man! Didn’t miss a second till the end. Well made indeed!
FINALLY, the king returns..been waiting on new content from this channel. Great stuff
Okay, my whole house shook from my bellowing laughter at the bit about the pilot flying towards the setting Sun. It's so true but in 28 years it never occured to me.
"Dilophosaurus equivalent of throwing up a challenge"
😂
This just reminds me just how cartoonishly evil the Jurassic World villains are. Hammond is a memorable character specifically because he was human.
Claire and Owen are both 100% responsible for the Indom getting out. Had they reacted professionally the animal wouldn’t have gotten out and the park would have been fine until the volcano blew
Movement based eyesight. It's more like things in motion pop out and things standing still fade into the background. You can test this with a cat since they have it. At a distance of three to five meters walk into your cats field of view. The second the cat focuses on you stop and remain perfectly still. Your cat will freak out shifting its head from side to side trying to figure out why you disappeared. It's fun!
Wait a minute, Hammond didn’t bring in Ian Malcom. It was the lawyer, Donald Genaro, who brought Malcom in. (It’s been a long time since I read the book, but I think it might say somewhere that Hammond brought in Malcom because he thought Malcom would agree with him.) In the second scene, when Genaro’s in the amber mine, he says “I already got Ian Malcom, but they want Alan Grant.” Then later, when they’re eating, Hammond points at Grant and Sattler and says “you’re meant to come down here and defend me against these characters, and the only one I’ve got on my side is the blood-sucking lawyer.”
Also, in the helicopter: "I bring scientists. YOU bring a rock star."
My favorite oversight from the book was the automated counting system of dinosaurs.
On top of everything else, they were so focused on their theme parks and military uses that they totally overlooked the most obvious and profitable application for the technology: Dinoburgers. A whole new chain of fast food and fine dining restaurants with meat exclusively supplied by the wranglers at Jurassic Ranch.
13:37 as someone in the IT business working for and with big corporations I can tell, this part of the movie is the most realistic one.
Nobody else ever mentions how Dennis putting up his hood is probably read as a threat beahaviour by the Dilophosaurus - glad it's not just me who thought that!
The part where Malcolm’s daughter gymnastic flip kicked a fucking raptor is when my 🧠 checked out of JP2 😆
A movie whose moral is basically 'pay your IT guy more' LOL
The idea that dinosaurs would make for a good military weapon is laughable.
Oh you have T-Rexes in your army? Well my A-10's just went "brrrrrrrt" and now you have a lot of ground chuck. GG EZ.
"dOn'T uNdErEsTiMaTe ThE pOwEr Of DiNoSaUrS!" Bitch, don't underestimate OUR power. You know how many species we render extinct without even trying?
I think Wu at one point says he wanted to make the dinos feathered and more like what they really looked like, but InGen insisted on him making them match pop-culture expectations.
I could be misremembering though
No he said when the DNA is 100% pure the dinos would look totally opposite of what we thinks they looks like. So yeah Wu would actually leave dinos to be feathered if they had feathers, he wouldnt need to experiment
Good catch, I never realized that Newman flashed his bright yellow neck frill at the dino.
It's great that you put Tuvok in there. It's funny how a calm, rational, intelligent character really balances the craziness of stuff like space travel and dinosaurs. HEAR THAT J.J.!? Sorry some feels there. 😅
I saw Jurassic Park in a drive-in theater when I was 13, and it was a notable moment in my early life. I was mesmerized, so it all gets a pass from me. I've since read a lot of M.Cs books and I get what he was doing. They're all worth the time. R.I.P.
My head canon with grant knowing that T-Rex’s vision is movement based is he was trying to calm Ellie and stop her running, which would have absolutely led to them being attacked. He was probably thinking of dogs and how running will likely prompt an attack. He just got lucky
Yeah you would have to know there wouldn't be any sequels because this company would still be being sued into oblivion from the shenanigans from the first and second movies.
They were sued to the point a new company bought them out.
Only to make the same mistakes again. 🤣
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim It's like the circle of life, except it's multiple dumb coporations getting everyone(including themselves) killed.
I don’t think you you realize nobody would have anything to gain from suing them in the first movie apart from the crew ont eh island at the time or their families which Ingen could probably still handle.
@@Clueless-political-guy Pretty sure the reckless endangerment of staff and innocents(one of whom was a lawyer) that resulted in death already lands them a criminal and several personal lawsuits. That in tandem with genetic creation of animals and plant life which can endanger more people and local wildlife opens them up to investigations/lawsuits, and potentially legal scrutiny from government based ecological groups. The amount of bad press killed Ingen in the movie series by the time world came out more than anything and it's why they were scooped up in the actual story.
Even as a kid, I was genuinely confused how the Rex pen was like 4 stories below, meaning Rexy was either floating or she stood on top of the tree to eat the goat. And makes sense that the tour most probably wouldn't see anything as they pass coz they would have needed to look down
The ditch isn’t where Rexy escaped from. It’s shown in the movie to be someways away when Muldoon and Sattler arrive. Where Rexy escaped was on the same level of ground as the trucks
@@mattpalmer1140 no. when Rexy knocks the 1st jeep off the ledge there's no level ground to its right where the goat should have been and no level ground to its left where it broke out, only the tree that extends to the lower ground where the 1st jeep was tossed into. In the breakout scene Rexy was seen on the same level of the jeep at the broken fence, while when Sattler came, she looked DOWN from the broken fence.
@@chucheeness7817 If you looked at canon blueprints ect. and watch Jurassic Park/world theorists/explanations they say that there was an area near the touring area of the Rex that was just tall enough for Rex’s to step on it and break the fences. It was likely made so that the guests actually could see it.
@@chucheeness7817 search it up.
@@Clueless-political-guy thing is, I don't care about outside-the-movie explanations, especially "theories". I'm just about what are presented in the movie itself. So no, I have no reason to search anything up. It was not set up nor established in any sequence in the movie. It's an inconsistency that I can brush off because it doesn't detract from the overall experience, but it is still there. It would make sense, though, if there was an establishing scene that was cut.
Yes, much of this occurred to me when I first saw Jurassic Park in the theater. A new computer installation with cutting edge and unique programs on an island being set up so everything depends on computers? Nedry should have had 20 guys beneath him, or more likely been one of the 20 beneath a more competent boss. Software specialists, hardware specialists, troubleshooters, network specialists, etc.
Yes, John, you spared expenses.
Just to clarify, Hammond did not bring in Ian Malcolm in the first movie, he was brought in by the lawyer
51:21 this statement about the value of the Dino being more important than the lives of the men sent to subdue the creature, feels painfully real.
"Ian's terrifying teenager daughter". You always find a way to slay me with the simplest of lines. ::two thumbs up:: I kept falling asleep listening to this so it's like my 4th time through. Always have to listen to the end. Your observations are always welcomed and entertaining.
May I also point out how sending Sam Jackson's character, the only other person who we know can operate the computer system into raptor land to flip a stupid switch that literally anyone else could have been told where it was, was absolutely Ludacris
I thoroughly enjoyed this 58 min roast session!
The only use I can think of for something like the Indoraptor or I-rex would be as a fear weapon; Similar to how the Galactic Empire creates weapons more designed to create fear, but at the cost of practicality
Well. It also would be a good way for massive FF.
Huh, yeah Galactic Empire moved away from the practical Walker tanks to the tall AT-AT walkers that can be easily taken out with cables because they cared more about Fear Factor than practicality. I can see them using an Indoraptor to clear out an cave filled with insurgents, but I doubt they would last very long on the frontlines with soldiers shooting at anything that moves.
34:42 ill never forget that one guy looking back to see his friend attacked and then face forward and keep walking like nothing happened.
Until he gets got a second later
I do appreciate how the first film and especially the book highlights how insane the park is. Ingen and Hammond are trying to make a Dinosaur Park but do not have time or money to take it slow, and so are cutting corners all over the place (computer glitches, toxic plant life, no freaking locks on the cars). Hammond and Ingen are idiots but you can believe how we got here.
Contrast that with the idiots at Ingen in the Jurassic World movies: Why does the fully functioning park fail in the first movie? I'll keep it simple and just give it as steps:
- Indomidus Rex camouflage itself (something no one guarding it knew it could do). Guards panic and assume it escaped the pen and immediately leave to investigate.
- I.Rex has a GPS tracker in it that the Control Room says is still in the pen. Guards didn't wait to check with control before opening gate; I. Rex escapes pen out of open gate.
- Capture Team is ambushed when I. Rex removes GPS from itself ("It remembered where it was injected"). Capture team was sent with only non-lethal weapons and is slaughtered.
- There was only one Capture Team on site; Ingen CEO decides to take civilian helicopter with minigun to kill I. Rex. The helicopter ends up crashing into Pterodactyl enclosure and lets them loose onto the rest of the park.
- Park is being evacuated, and Ingen sends in a PMC with 'trained' park raptors to kill I. Rex. Raptors prove unreliable and kill PMC troops.
The subsequent films might as well have Ingen be replaced with Umbrella Corp.
8:40 : With 'Jurassic World', I always wanted them to revel that the 'Insidious' Dr. Wu has been the secret villain of the franchise from the beginning, as it was him that came up with the seemingly stupid idea of mixing frog DNA with Dino DNA.
My 'Head Canon' was that he was a Bond Era bad guy, and he actually wanted to 'give the Earth back to the single 'species' that had ruled it the longest' (cliche, I know 😏). At leas t that would be a good reason behind all of the stupid decisions that InGen made, that yes, they were stupid, but one guy was secretly brilliant and had planned ALL of this from the start!
But how does he benefit from dinosaurs taking over?
@@wolfiewoo3371 He doesn't, he's an insane 'Environmentalist', like the bad guys in the second recent Godzilla movie: Time to let the 'virus' of humanity be wiped out by letting the dinosaurs.....or Kaiju........take over (so no, the idea isn't original idea 😅)
@@MrChupacabra555 It didn't make sense in the Godzilla movie either. Dr. Emma Russell wants to release the Titans after the events of Godzilla 2014 where her son died. She's supposed to be a smart scientist but she's surprised when the monsters start destroying cities and killing people (Killing other people's children in the process too). Charles Dance's character doesn't fair much better either. He says humanity is bad because we have wars and stuff but he's also okay with releasing kaiju that could kill millions or even billions of people? Hypocritical much? And still I ask, how do the bad guys benefit from this? If you release all the Titans sure you might be able to destroy humanity but that also means you'd die too and, if you release all the Dinosaurs the world governments will probably hunt them to extinction in order to preserve the natural eco system. Dinosaurs aren't bulletproof.
@@wolfiewoo3371 Well, yeah. As I said, it would be an INSANE idea from a Mad Scientist.
I think here and 'Everything Wrong With', and "How It Should Have Ended' have shown how stupid Military Attack Dinos would be: If you have to point a gun like object at your target to get the dino to attack, why not just use a gun in the first place? 😏
@@MrChupacabra555 That laser guided raptor thing was hilarious, it's ten times more complicated and more expensive than just shooting someone. And I must admit, the mad scientist idea is certainly much more interesting than whatever Wu's character is in the movies.
I'd argue that calling InGen villains (In the first film anyway) is a bit of a stretch, but I can't exactly argue afterwards.
EDIT: I'd say that a Feathered Raptor would be just as scary as the Fake-Raptors. 🤣 But fair enough.
Ostriches and Emus are terrifying, why not feathered raptors?
@@concept5631 My point exactly, my friend. XD
With the right design you can make them look like dinosaur wolfs
@@concept5631 you didn't mention the scariest bird, Cassowaries
@@TupocalypseShakur I didn't know how to spell it.
You know what's interesting about Nedry "not fathoming the danger" of shutting down the fences? He did, at least somewhat, as he went out of his way to not shut down the raptor fences. He just grossly underestimated how dangerous the other dinos were as well.
He also had reasonable guess that dinosaurs had learned that touching fence means pain and avoid it. Raptors were just too stubborn to learn it and kept trying over and over.
When you were listing all of the ingredients of the Indominus Rex, I could not help but think of that bit in futurama: "I've combined all the DNA of the most evil animals to make the most evil creature of them. All"....
"Turns out it's man"
hearing you describe the Indominus Rex made it sound more like an SCP than an annimal
President john snow from the hunger games should be on this list. His plan to quell the growing discontent in catching fire by making the champions fight again was the equivalent of pouring gasoline on a fire.