The last video I watched was your Ananda review, and I was surprised by the huge jump in quality here. In addition to simply being higher resolution, you have made huge leaps in cinematography (lighting, camera motion and angle, etc.). It is very good that you are focusing on shots of the headphones and then bringing the camera back to you for the bigger statements. I especially love how you actually show footage of all the headphones you are talking about as it really helps with comprehension. Definitely keep focusing on lighting and textures (so tasty in this video), and check out cinematography especially for product shots to get even better. Keep up the good work!
Awesome, thanks. I've been watching and reading a lot of stuff on making b roll and working out how to use my camera. Glad its paying off. Really enjoying making these videos. Thanks for watching :D
Thanks for the excellent review! I own a 4XX - one of the first ones to be produced actually with a serial # around 200 - as well as the latest version of the original 400i that I purchased a few months ago and that uses improved headband structure for better durability, 3.5 mm connectors and slightly different Focus Pads to the original. I have Focus Pads A on the 400i and Dekoni Hybrid Hifiman pads on the 4XX. The two sound virtually identical in this configuration, although the 400i is perhaps a little bit more forward in the mids and slightly less forward in the highs - just a small touch. If I swap the pads, it's pretty much the other way around, meaning the two sound virtually identical if used with the same pads. I don't hear any odd reverb effects or anything of the sort with either one. Both are superb for the price and direct competition to anything in that price range.
Amazingly detailed review as usual, I've paired mine with a fx-audio dac x6, and am running it eq-d to the harman curve, absolutely loving it. Low shelf at 60hz +7db, the 400i handles it like a champ. Weirdly enough, the only part of the review, where I don't find myself in the same situation is the imaging. I play mostly competitive fps games and find the imaging to be pretty stellar.
I have had these for a month and I absolutely agree with every single point you said , I really didn't expect them to be so good for the price , but they surely are .
A great review. Honest and inciteful. Thank you for comparing the other competitors in the same price range. I lean to more jazz and classical so this sounds like a perfect fit for me and my zen dac.
If you're interested in looking for an open back with strong and clear subbass extension while fitting the harman target fairly well, I'd recommend giving the Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R a try. It's marketed for gaming, but after owning one for a few months, I can honestly say it excels beyond that. That, and unlike most beyers, the peaky treble is much more well tamed.
I stopped showing my graphs because people were taking them wrong. MiniDSP not being industry standard or accurate by professional standards etc. I tried to show them only as a visual aid but it was more hassle than it was worth with people either attacking me for showing MiniDSP graphs because they aren't accurate. or drawing conclusions based on the graphs which is also bad for obvious reasons. These days I use it in private to check things aren't broken. Maybe I should create a page of my measurements for those who are interested but there are so many good measurements out there from pro level rigs I dunno if its worth it.
Also, I would like to warn potential 4XX/400i buyers, especially those who think of buying one used - there are bad units around and not necessarily defective in a way you may think. I recently sold a 400i. It was an older version with 2.5 mm connectors and I bought that one used. It was like new condition when I bought it and I was really excited as the seller was asking only $100 CAD for it (I am in Canada, yes) which is an amazing deal for a 400i in Canada. I already owned a 4XX at the time, but the deal was so good I thought I should just buy the 400i to have as a spare. After all, they are supposed to be the same headphone except for outer design and pads. Well, as soon as I tried them, I knew something was off about the sound. I already owned another 400i about a year earlier and felt that it was a great sounding headphone except for the tizzy treble spike around 8k and somewhat light bass presence. This one however, felt oddly lacking in dynamics or something. First impression was that the upper bass was overemphasized. Initially, I thought that maybe I just forgot what a 400i sounds like and that it was supposed to sound this way, so I tried getting used to it. The mids and highs sounded just fine otherwise with no issues. Very similar to my 4XX I had on hand, except for that odd issue somewhere in the bass. However, after a month or so of listening to them, the feeling that something was off didn't leave me. The lower mids and upper bass seemed pushed forward too much and the sub bass lacked presence with any EDM or bass focused electronic music in general, although anything acoustic and most pop or rock sounded just fine with no obvious issues. This was very different from my 4XX which sounded way more filled in in the sub bass with none of the weirdness of this 400i. So I ran some test tone sweeps and lo and behold - the sub bass noticeably dropped off below 100 Hz. In fact, it was barely audible below 50Hz at normal listening levels. By contrast, even my Koss KSC75 which are known for a lot of sub bass roll off actually extended better down to 45 Hz than this 400i did. My Sennheiser HD555 and HD600 extended significantly better and the 4XX was in a different league entirely. I tried swapping pads and none made any difference to the sub bass extension, except for Sundara Pali pads (latest version), which bright the sub bass from 40-50Hz up a few dB to about the level of an HD600. The sub bass remained a fair bit weaker than on the 4XX however. So I decided to buy another 400i new to see if that one would be better and indeed it was. I got a latest 400i version brand new and it sounded basically identical to my 4XX with properly extended bass. So in conclusion - I bought a used 400i that was defective, but not in any obvious way. It sounded perfectly fine from 150 Hz up, but dropped off a cliff in the sub bass vs. a normal 400i or 4XX - in both channels equally. It was only really apparent with music that had strong sub bass content and there was no distortion or anything - it was just severely lacking volume. Switching pads to the latest Sundara Pali pads helped somewhat, but extension remained limited. Visually, there was nothing wrong at all with the headphone, including the drivers. I just hope that was an exception rather than a rule and that few 400i/4XX units have this problem, but who knows...
I have an older he400i with the 2.5mm and paid almost twice as much as you did for yours, also in Canada. This was just a few months before the 2020 400i dropped for basically the same price as I got these, but new. Looking at frequency response graphs, the older 400i's drop off quicker in the bass than the new ones. Pads or no, they have refined the manafacturing of said driver over time even if it's the same one. Using the wavelet/autoeq profile for 2016 400i instead of the normal 400i or 2020 400i should cover it. I also have Koss ksc75's as my backups and their bass is a just little bit more present without EQ, but with it, the old 400i smokes the Koss.
First of all thank you so much for the effort and time you put into making these videos. They are very helpful! If you don't mind I have a couple follow up questions. 1.) Between the K371, HE-400i (2020), Sundara, and the HD560s which gets you closest to your ideal sound signature ( which I think is the Harman Target) w/o eq? 2.) As a follow up to #1, do any of the other headphones on the list have exceptional qualities that overcome their deviation from your ideal sound signature w/out eq?
I really appreciate this review. It helped me feel confirmed about my purchase. Just bought it on Amazon. I am looking forward to trying it out. What amps do you recommend? I ordered the Schiit Magni Heresy. At $99 I couldn't find a much better value I think but I'm a total noob.
I've just ordered the he400i with 2.5mm Jacks as I prefer the old style headband, I have the her9 which has the newer headband, granted the new addition probably won't be as comfortable but I just love the look of the og 400i
I had no idea they were so affordable. For some reason I thought they were a model above the Sundara. I've seen them going for £169 which seems like a good price.
How does these compare to the Philips Fidelio X2HR? In sweden, these are $218, while the Philips are available around $182. Can also get second hand Fidelio X2 (not HR) for $97.
Great review, My endgame for music is the Sundara with the JDS Atom Amp and the Topping E30 DAC. I've run into an issue though, I find the same issue with positional imaging for gaming. I'm looking for a budget headphone that is easy to drive from an xbox controller that has excellent positional imaging. I'm tempted to pick up the SHP9500 again as they worked well. Do you have any other recommendations to be used just for gaming around $100?
@@dannybos7024 Is the TYGR easy to drive? My hesitation with the TYGR is the lack of mic/removable cable and not sure if they can be driven easily by an xbox controller.
@@jasonfranciosa Pretty much everything drives them. Low impedance and high sensitivity. And they have a very good quality cable that isn't prone to breaking. And otherwise they're very easy to mod and there are plenty of people willing to do it for you.
Hey bro awsm review but do you think it performs good in gaming. I do editing and gaming (apex legends , valorant) . Do you have any other suggestions.
I have the 400i se pre-2020 with the 2.5mm jacks. But I don't know if I would really rate it above the 6xx. When I first bought them both was leaning towards the 400i but over the years I definitely used the 6xx more. Maybe in part this is because I feel like the 6xx can handle a bit more abuse (especially the pads). The vocal range sounds better on the 6xx while maybe you get that planar sound with slightly more textured or responsive bass on the 400i and more of a peak at certain high tones.
Was really up in the air about which open back to get,not so much anymore. These have wrestled out the x2hr and k702. Really hoping they are a jump from my Sony 1000xm3.
@@realsubjob I'm at the beginning of m'y audiophile journey, and still struggle with soundstage analysis. So take it with a grain of salt : I find them comparable
Ciao, what about mixing and mastering use ? Does it need little bit to process, in the DAW via vst plugin, about bass punch, presence a details in high end, like wideing transient and exciters ?
How does these compare to the new Audeze headphones? They made 200 buck bt/analog planar magnetic headphones which are supposed to be jack of all trades
I decided I wanted this particular model of headphones for the next step of my audiophile journey (the predecessing step being a DT770). Your review definitely sealed my choice, so thanks for that. At first try, I definitely got a "WOW" moment. Now, I find the default cable a bit short and can't find any that is not overpriced and/or balanced. Can anyone please guide me to a good "normal" (i.e. not balanced) 3m cable for these headphones?
hey Wheezy!! As someone new to this hobby, what dac would u recommend to pair w my akg k371's and what streaming platform? I currently use spotify and I find that even "very high" (only like 320kbps) is just not detailed enough. I dabbled w pirating flac files before, but I want the simplicity of spotify with better quality. Anyways, thanks in advance have a merry Christmas.
I am really looking to get he4xx but also considering akg k7xx. Just cant make my mind and now this ones new 400i. I wish the image on 400i and 4xx was like on k7xx.
I really like your Reviews , But about HD6XX correct they dont have low bass but they have more High bass than 400i and Sundara they are warmer also . So many people depending the songs maybe will like HD6 series more. Other than that Yeah 6XX have slow bass, But 660S have Fast bass like my Sundara (maybe not so fast but fast)
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
@@cricket4life249 thanks card to expand a bit, are the Senns too neutral for your preference, they are supposed to be more of an analytical, studio use come reference headphone. Which as I am not. Reviewer I’m not convinced I really need.
Yeah, these are great headphones. You could start and stop with these, and focus your resources next on portables (Porto Pros or some IEMs) and speakers.
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
Honestly, there is no awkward position in EU. It makes 0 sense to order anything from Drop since the EU warehouse has been shut down since 2020. By the time you're done paying for shipping and the frigging VAT tax you're better off just buying whatever you can over here in EU. Bummer, though.
I am so glad I didn't buy these. I withdrew all consideration of Bluetooth headphone technology, and fully dedicated my purchasing to wired-only. I'm sticking with this resolution. That's that.
@@WheezyTech I recall being on the edge of quitting Bluetooth when the Panda was announced. Their claims, which you point out succinctly, had me tempted to go in. After all, this was the company that put out the highly regarded THX AAA 789 amplifier, so that previous collaboration had me thinking, they're talking about putting that sound into a portable headphone! Nope Now along comes your video basically putting another nail into the firmly sealed coffin that represents my decision to avoid any and all wireless products going forward. Thanks!
I'm simply disappointed with the HE400i. They're only decent with bass light songs. if you listen to songs which don't depend on bass or don't have a prominent bass line to miss, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you'll feel a huge void in where you know the bass frequencies should be. I think Joshua Valour's review is on point on these. Also, these murder your ears if the recording is not good. Im looking to dump these on the first unsuspecting poor soul that i can cuz no one would want these after auditioning them. The quality of music through my Sony WF-1000XM3 is far more satisfying than the HE400i despite not being as detailed cu they're better rounded with respect to all frequencies instead of being shrill like the HE400is. P.S - Did i say mention there was no bass to speak off no matter which amp i deployed?
00:00 Intro
01:17 Physical overview
01:25 Headband
02:17 Earcups and pads
03:29 Cable
03:57 Specification
04:38 Pricing
04:51 Sound section
05:46 Frequency response and overall tonality
06:04 Bass
07:43 Midrange
06:46 Treble
09:34 Soundstage and imaging
10:38 4xx difference observation
11:27 Summary
12:07 Value and Competition
13:22 Conclusion
13:55 Outro
Need another discussion video like planar vs dynamic headphones. That's gonna be awesome 😊
Your thumbnails and production are killing it. Great vid too!
Thanks, I've been putting a lot of time into it, seems to be paying off
Hi Andrew I love you videos
Cool camera shots, informative and very interesting that you found a new top pick under 200. Thanks for your work.
The last video I watched was your Ananda review, and I was surprised by the huge jump in quality here. In addition to simply being higher resolution, you have made huge leaps in cinematography (lighting, camera motion and angle, etc.). It is very good that you are focusing on shots of the headphones and then bringing the camera back to you for the bigger statements. I especially love how you actually show footage of all the headphones you are talking about as it really helps with comprehension. Definitely keep focusing on lighting and textures (so tasty in this video), and check out cinematography especially for product shots to get even better. Keep up the good work!
Awesome, thanks. I've been watching and reading a lot of stuff on making b roll and working out how to use my camera. Glad its paying off. Really enjoying making these videos. Thanks for watching :D
Been my daily since October, best purchase so far
Perftect video. You nailed it. Last saturday I was thinking to buy one of them, and I didn't take a decision. Thank you for you help.
Thanks for the excellent review! I own a 4XX - one of the first ones to be produced actually with a serial # around 200 - as well as the latest version of the original 400i that I purchased a few months ago and that uses improved headband structure for better durability, 3.5 mm connectors and slightly different Focus Pads to the original. I have Focus Pads A on the 400i and Dekoni Hybrid Hifiman pads on the 4XX. The two sound virtually identical in this configuration, although the 400i is perhaps a little bit more forward in the mids and slightly less forward in the highs - just a small touch. If I swap the pads, it's pretty much the other way around, meaning the two sound virtually identical if used with the same pads. I don't hear any odd reverb effects or anything of the sort with either one. Both are superb for the price and direct competition to anything in that price range.
Amazingly detailed review as usual, I've paired mine with a fx-audio dac x6, and am running it eq-d to the harman curve, absolutely loving it. Low shelf at 60hz +7db, the 400i handles it like a champ. Weirdly enough, the only part of the review, where I don't find myself in the same situation is the imaging. I play mostly competitive fps games and find the imaging to be pretty stellar.
I got a DAC X6 MKII here testing it out atm, review soon.
I have had these for a month and I absolutely agree with every single point you said , I really didn't expect them to be so good for the price , but they surely are .
Yeah I've been really enjoying using them. And I think the general build, comfort and price makes them a great daily driver.
i am missing alot of bass on these. Are you guys using a amp on it ?
@@PlaqueBaka yes they require an amp to sound full throughout the range.
A great review. Honest and inciteful. Thank you for comparing the other competitors in the same price range. I lean to more jazz and classical so this sounds like a perfect fit for me and my zen dac.
Thanks :D I loved using them with the Zen DAC. I was pretty disappointed to see it go when I had to return it after my review.
These reviews are the best
Thanks
Ordered these just yesterday, waiting now for them to arrive. My first ever planar headphones. I've been using an ATH-M50's since 2015.
If you're interested in looking for an open back with strong and clear subbass extension while fitting the harman target fairly well, I'd recommend giving the Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 R a try. It's marketed for gaming, but after owning one for a few months, I can honestly say it excels beyond that. That, and unlike most beyers, the peaky treble is much more well tamed.
I dunno why I haven't picked up the TYGR yet, I need to get them asap
Please, review monoprice m570 $200 and monoprice m1070 $300 in their website, great value planar.
By the way great review. ❤️
Excellent as always :D. Was hoping you gonna show the frequency response but alright...
I stopped showing my graphs because people were taking them wrong. MiniDSP not being industry standard or accurate by professional standards etc. I tried to show them only as a visual aid but it was more hassle than it was worth with people either attacking me for showing MiniDSP graphs because they aren't accurate. or drawing conclusions based on the graphs which is also bad for obvious reasons. These days I use it in private to check things aren't broken. Maybe I should create a page of my measurements for those who are interested but there are so many good measurements out there from pro level rigs I dunno if its worth it.
What camera do you use? The footage is so clean
Sony a6400 with Sigma 16mm f/1.4
All TH-camrs use sony 😂
@@WheezyTech great set up
Also, I would like to warn potential 4XX/400i buyers, especially those who think of buying one used - there are bad units around and not necessarily defective in a way you may think. I recently sold a 400i. It was an older version with 2.5 mm connectors and I bought that one used. It was like new condition when I bought it and I was really excited as the seller was asking only $100 CAD for it (I am in Canada, yes) which is an amazing deal for a 400i in Canada. I already owned a 4XX at the time, but the deal was so good I thought I should just buy the 400i to have as a spare. After all, they are supposed to be the same headphone except for outer design and pads. Well, as soon as I tried them, I knew something was off about the sound. I already owned another 400i about a year earlier and felt that it was a great sounding headphone except for the tizzy treble spike around 8k and somewhat light bass presence. This one however, felt oddly lacking in dynamics or something. First impression was that the upper bass was overemphasized. Initially, I thought that maybe I just forgot what a 400i sounds like and that it was supposed to sound this way, so I tried getting used to it. The mids and highs sounded just fine otherwise with no issues. Very similar to my 4XX I had on hand, except for that odd issue somewhere in the bass.
However, after a month or so of listening to them, the feeling that something was off didn't leave me. The lower mids and upper bass seemed pushed forward too much and the sub bass lacked presence with any EDM or bass focused electronic music in general, although anything acoustic and most pop or rock sounded just fine with no obvious issues. This was very different from my 4XX which sounded way more filled in in the sub bass with none of the weirdness of this 400i. So I ran some test tone sweeps and lo and behold - the sub bass noticeably dropped off below 100 Hz. In fact, it was barely audible below 50Hz at normal listening levels. By contrast, even my Koss KSC75 which are known for a lot of sub bass roll off actually extended better down to 45 Hz than this 400i did. My Sennheiser HD555 and HD600 extended significantly better and the 4XX was in a different league entirely.
I tried swapping pads and none made any difference to the sub bass extension, except for Sundara Pali pads (latest version), which bright the sub bass from 40-50Hz up a few dB to about the level of an HD600. The sub bass remained a fair bit weaker than on the 4XX however.
So I decided to buy another 400i new to see if that one would be better and indeed it was. I got a latest 400i version brand new and it sounded basically identical to my 4XX with properly extended bass. So in conclusion - I bought a used 400i that was defective, but not in any obvious way. It sounded perfectly fine from 150 Hz up, but dropped off a cliff in the sub bass vs. a normal 400i or 4XX - in both channels equally. It was only really apparent with music that had strong sub bass content and there was no distortion or anything - it was just severely lacking volume. Switching pads to the latest Sundara Pali pads helped somewhat, but extension remained limited. Visually, there was nothing wrong at all with the headphone, including the drivers. I just hope that was an exception rather than a rule and that few 400i/4XX units have this problem, but who knows...
I have an older he400i with the 2.5mm and paid almost twice as much as you did for yours, also in Canada. This was just a few months before the 2020 400i dropped for basically the same price as I got these, but new. Looking at frequency response graphs, the older 400i's drop off quicker in the bass than the new ones. Pads or no, they have refined the manafacturing of said driver over time even if it's the same one. Using the wavelet/autoeq profile for 2016 400i instead of the normal 400i or 2020 400i should cover it. I also have Koss ksc75's as my backups and their bass is a just little bit more present without EQ, but with it, the old 400i smokes the Koss.
Great review man keep it up !
Thanks
First of all thank you so much for the effort and time you put into making these videos. They are very helpful! If you don't mind I have a couple follow up questions.
1.) Between the K371, HE-400i (2020), Sundara, and the HD560s which gets you closest to your ideal sound signature ( which I think is the Harman Target) w/o eq?
2.) As a follow up to #1, do any of the other headphones on the list have exceptional qualities that overcome their deviation from your ideal sound signature w/out eq?
Hey Wheezy, you should try out the Tygr 300 R when Beyerdynamic restocks them, the imaging is ASTOUNDING and they sound absolutely amazing!
Yeah really want to pick up a pair of those
I have been waiting like over a year for it to come in stock. It appears they dont want to sell them in NA anymore.
I really appreciate this review. It helped me feel confirmed about my purchase. Just bought it on Amazon. I am looking forward to trying it out. What amps do you recommend? I ordered the Schiit Magni Heresy. At $99 I couldn't find a much better value I think but I'm a total noob.
nice video - I bought Sundara for 250 GBP - so double gambit ;-)
Awesome thats a great price
I've just ordered the he400i with 2.5mm Jacks as I prefer the old style headband, I have the her9 which has the newer headband, granted the new addition probably won't be as comfortable but I just love the look of the og 400i
I had no idea they were so affordable. For some reason I thought they were a model above the Sundara. I've seen them going for £169 which seems like a good price.
Have you tried the 58x? Really curious to see how they compare
Good review, well done 👍
How does these compare to the Philips Fidelio X2HR? In sweden, these are $218, while the Philips are available around $182. Can also get second hand Fidelio X2 (not HR) for $97.
Hi, great video as always. For gaming (mostly fps) and music (metal,rock,rap) would you pick the he400i or the AKG k712? Thanks
I have them both , I prefer k712 pro for detailed highs , better imaging and soundstage .
Can u check out the moondrop ssr Or the 20 dollar spaceship. The ssr looks pretty cool and might be a better build upgrade to the qkz vk4 I use.
I'll consider the SSR/Spaceship was put off by the graphs tho. I'll keep my eyes open for discounts before I pull the trigger.
Iam still thinking about the Deva because of the soundstage... but Anyway great review👍🙏
Imaging mirage? Never heard that one before. How does that work?
Great review, My endgame for music is the Sundara with the JDS Atom Amp and the Topping E30 DAC. I've run into an issue though, I find the same issue with positional imaging for gaming.
I'm looking for a budget headphone that is easy to drive from an xbox controller that has excellent positional imaging. I'm tempted to pick up the SHP9500 again as they worked well. Do you have any other recommendations to be used just for gaming around $100?
TYGR
I haven't heard them but I'd be inclined to go with the TYGR cos Beyer imaging is great. Sennheiser HD500 series is a good choice too.
@@dannybos7024 Is the TYGR easy to drive? My hesitation with the TYGR is the lack of mic/removable cable and not sure if they can be driven easily by an xbox controller.
@@jasonfranciosa Pretty much everything drives them. Low impedance and high sensitivity. And they have a very good quality cable that isn't prone to breaking. And otherwise they're very easy to mod and there are plenty of people willing to do it for you.
@@WheezyTech Meh, the HD559 is way too dark for gaming. The HD569 is a joke. The HD579 and HD599 are okay though.
What's the best portable dac to go with this? To be used with Iphone. Something enough to drive these cans with a nice synergy that opens up the bass.
Hey bro awsm review but do you think it performs good in gaming. I do editing and gaming (apex legends , valorant) . Do you have any other suggestions.
I have the 400i se pre-2020 with the 2.5mm jacks. But I don't know if I would really rate it above the 6xx. When I first bought them both was leaning towards the 400i but over the years I definitely used the 6xx more. Maybe in part this is because I feel like the 6xx can handle a bit more abuse (especially the pads). The vocal range sounds better on the 6xx while maybe you get that planar sound with slightly more textured or responsive bass on the 400i and more of a peak at certain high tones.
Apparently these have already been discontinued for another revision called the HE400 SE, wonder how they stack up against these and the 4XX
Aight, i'm onboard with these cans. Also could you do a vid on fiio m3pro please?
Good call on the M3Pro, I've been wanting to check out some portable players
@@WheezyTech dame bro
Was really up in the air about which open back to get,not so much anymore. These have wrestled out the x2hr and k702. Really hoping they are a jump from my Sony 1000xm3.
Oh yes big jump from XM3
I just bought the X2HR and the 2020 HE400i. In terms of detail retrieval and layering, the Phillips can't compete IMO: totally different leagues
@@erokhito What about soundstage between the two?
@@realsubjob I'm at the beginning of m'y audiophile journey, and still struggle with soundstage analysis. So take it with a grain of salt : I find them comparable
I would i lovel that the sundara had the headband of the 400i
DT1990 pro review by any chance?
I keep saying to myself I'll review them soon, but keep putting it off. I should just get on with it lol.
@@WheezyTech Good to know it'll come out eventually :)
Love your videos, the quality is top-notch.
Ciao, what about mixing and mastering use ? Does it need little bit to process, in the DAW via vst plugin, about bass punch, presence a details in high end, like wideing transient and exciters ?
I hope you can compare these to the HD 58X and HD 560S someday and make a roundup with the best $200 headphones.
he400i is straight up better. Dont fall for Senn hype machine. He400i is more comparable to their much more expensive HD600/660s.
hello, what changes between the HiFiMan he400i and the he400i 2020? the differences...
How does these compare to the new Audeze headphones? They made 200 buck bt/analog planar magnetic headphones which are supposed to be jack of all trades
I decided I wanted this particular model of headphones for the next step of my audiophile journey (the predecessing step being a DT770). Your review definitely sealed my choice, so thanks for that.
At first try, I definitely got a "WOW" moment.
Now, I find the default cable a bit short and can't find any that is not overpriced and/or balanced. Can anyone please guide me to a good "normal" (i.e. not balanced) 3m cable for these headphones?
hey Wheezy!! As someone new to this hobby, what dac would u recommend to pair w my akg k371's and what streaming platform? I currently use spotify and I find that even "very high" (only like 320kbps) is just not detailed enough. I dabbled w pirating flac files before, but I want the simplicity of spotify with better quality. Anyways, thanks in advance have a merry Christmas.
I am really looking to get he4xx but also considering akg k7xx. Just cant make my mind and now this ones new 400i.
I wish the image on 400i and 4xx was like on k7xx.
How would you compare these all together, in regards to this, Sundara and Ananda?
what changes from the HE-440i model?
I have the 712 PRO, would the HE400i 2020 be a good addition or just a sidestep
Would love to see a review of Sound BlasterX G6 7.1 HD Gaming DAC
I really like your Reviews , But about HD6XX correct they dont have low bass but they have more High bass than 400i and Sundara they are warmer also . So many people depending the songs maybe will like HD6 series more. Other than that Yeah 6XX have slow bass, But 660S have Fast bass like my Sundara (maybe not so fast but fast)
Hey, are you thinking of reviewing the 560s soon?
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
Did check your list, have you tried the Sennheiser 560s?
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
For music listening these or the Senn 560s as a first open back, what is your opinion?
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
@@cricket4life249 thanks card to expand a bit, are the Senns too neutral for your preference, they are supposed to be more of an analytical, studio use come reference headphone. Which as I am not. Reviewer I’m not convinced I really need.
Yeah, these are great headphones. You could start and stop with these, and focus your resources next on portables (Porto Pros or some IEMs) and speakers.
Question, when you used these with the zen dac, was it running on balanced or unblanced?
Unbalanced
Have you by any chance tried the hd560s? Any idea of how their sound differs?
Don't bother😅 I have both the Sennheiser HD 560s and the Hifiman HE 400i and the Hifiman's blow the Sennies straight out of the water🤣 Btw I'm using the Fiio K5 Pro. Going to send the Sennies back tomorrow😬😬
Its not a bombshell when its a fact !!!!
also hot candidates under 200$ is Sennheiser HD 58X and AKG 371
he400i vs akg k371 ?
Do you need dac
Honestly, there is no awkward position in EU. It makes 0 sense to order anything from Drop since the EU warehouse has been shut down since 2020. By the time you're done paying for shipping and the frigging VAT tax you're better off just buying whatever you can over here in EU. Bummer, though.
Except for Koss Kph30i when available on drop...
could my dragonfly black 1.5 drive these?
I am so glad I didn't buy these. I withdrew all consideration of Bluetooth headphone technology, and fully dedicated my purchasing to wired-only. I'm sticking with this resolution. That's that.
Was this comment meant for the Panda video? ;)
@@WheezyTech I recall being on the edge of quitting Bluetooth when the Panda was announced. Their claims, which you point out succinctly, had me tempted to go in. After all, this was the company that put out the highly regarded THX AAA 789 amplifier, so that previous collaboration had me thinking, they're talking about putting that sound into a portable headphone! Nope
Now along comes your video basically putting another nail into the firmly sealed coffin that represents my decision to avoid any and all wireless products going forward. Thanks!
I know you say HE, but all I hear is "ecchi"
lol that's a whole other thing ;)
@@WheezyTech whats echi?
@@yoursilly2106 ill tell you when you're older
@@yoursilly2106 it's the step you take before going to hentai
I'm simply disappointed with the HE400i. They're only decent with bass light songs. if you listen to songs which don't depend on bass or don't have a prominent bass line to miss, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you'll feel a huge void in where you know the bass frequencies should be. I think Joshua Valour's review is on point on these. Also, these murder your ears if the recording is not good. Im looking to dump these on the first unsuspecting poor soul that i can cuz no one would want these after auditioning them. The quality of music through my Sony WF-1000XM3 is far more satisfying than the HE400i despite not being as detailed cu they're better rounded with respect to all frequencies instead of being shrill like the HE400is.
P.S - Did i say mention there was no bass to speak off no matter which amp i deployed?
Thumbnail looks like a pan 🍳🍳🍳
lol it does a bit
Jesus Christ is our lord and savior
these headphones suck , my airpods sound better tbh
Hot take
How would you compare it to the AT M40/M50 and DT770/990? Asking because these are all around similar price ranges.