my mom is a Psychiatrist, she tells me this diagnose is incredibly rare ; most are fake, she claims this case is the real deal. This kid was tortured as child, physically, emotional, sexual, and psychological. Plus, if you throw a delicate child into the mix, you have a perfect storm.
But why would he lie about speaking arabic and servo-kroatian? A person with DID doesn't need lies like that to prove their mental illness I think? Or could this be another personality: Rudy the pathological liar?
Idk, new studies say it's not that rare, just often misdiagnosed. Whatever it is tho it isn't like plurals shouldn't be held accountable for IRL crimes
@@saeedbabbar3212 if you talkin bout how many alters someone has, numbers are not a standard, some people have 2~6, some 10~20, hell polyfragmented systems have 100+ if they never treat the reason to keeping so many around. but personalities, yeah, not a lot of slates to begin with, all aspects of a person translate to one. alters have similar executive functions, and you can't hide your memories forever no matter how many people are in there... we are not above consequences.
@@nomdeplume2213 Well thank you so much. I did a lot of research before the role, and really tried to get his mannerisms down. Since I had no actual dialogue it was all just physical acting, which wasn’t easy haha. But it was a great experience.
You love that they're stigmatized DID? Look up real people with DID you will see that they hate this and how stigmatizing it is for those suffering from DID
I actually worked at a behavioral health center as an office assistant, and one patient (I’ll never forget him) had two personalities outside of himself. The first time I met the man I was left speechless because I was listening to three different people holding conversations but were the same person! It was so fascinating and educational. They were nice and very polite. One of them even remembered me from a previous visit because I offered them a snack the other two were unaware that happened. I hope where ever they are, that life is kind to them and they live a long and healthy life. 🙏🏽
I just hope they do this with respect to the community of people who struggle with this disorder my grandmother had it and I can tell you from growing up with her (them). This is the most frightening disorder for the person who has it (sometimes) but very much the family who has to be around said person. I am a true crime fan hardcore but I have read the book and seen the other attempts at this story. The book fabulous I just truly hope they do justice to the fact that this is a rare disorder , and that this is not how it presents itself for the majority of people whom have it. The DSM has changed the name since both he and my grandma were diagnosed which I very much appreciate.
Heyo! Give the doc a watch- I’m a few episodes in and I think it really delicately handles did and the reasons that people can get this diagnosis. His loving sister and mindful psychiatrists are involved and the show acknowledges painful childhood trauma that can lead to did systems. Glad they’re taking this approach and handling mental health issues carefully! (So far) x
I am shocked by how many of the men portrayed - journalists, policemen, judges, doctors - have zero problems with befriending a rapist, stating how they „never felt endangerd by him“ and even adoring him. It‘s a complex story and I get that the offender‘s mental illness is the most interesting part to many people but I think that the female victims did not get the empathy and solidarity they deserved.
These "men" are the ones who get their hands dirty every time a lunatic is out there, and they do a whole lot much more than "solidarity" in youtube comments. See the John Gacy case for example, it's on netflix too, and watch how much sh*t they had to go through, it won't be a snowflake interrogating, staking, arresting or digging up decomposing corpses and putting their life on the line that whole time doin it when sh*t hits the fan so let's show a bit of respect to those men
Exactly! I just finished watching it and I’m honestly disgusted. It was all about him and his problems and zero empathy for the victims, they were pretty erased throughout the whole serie as if his crime was equivalent to stealing a few sweets from the shop 🙄🙄
This is a horrible mental disorder that is usually the result of extreme trauma. When children are abused by monsters, their mind does the only thing it can. The mind disassociates from the body in order to keep the body alive because what the body is enduring, is too much for a child's mind to comprehend. It's awful, it's tragic and horrendous. What happened to cause the disorder was in no way the child's fault. I'm not familiar with who Billy Milligan is or what he is accused of doing. When a person causes harm to other people, depending on the severity of that harm, they can't be free to do it again.
@@kismetau Just a tip, the name has been changed from “Multiple Personality Disorder” to “Dissociative Identity Disorder” and most systems don’t like the term personality. Alters is a better word to use.
@@idkdude420 understood but Jenny actually prefers the MP term if you watch this interview - Woman conjures multiple personalities (can’t link it here) because she says her alters aren’t dissociative.
We have DID, but none of our alters are evil like this. Yes I do feel bad what Billy went through as a kid we understand childhood abuse, but there is no excuse to make others a victim because you had a messed up childhood. As a system taking responsibility for your alters is very important.
agree. 1 for office/work/public, 2 for home with fam, 3 for private/solitude well at least that's my faces of personalities but still on one name not different like usual DID case
Mas ele não fez vítimas só porque teve uma infância complicada. Ele fez vítimas porque visivelmente estava transtornado mentalmente, ou seja, não era mais ele. O trauma que tudo isso causou no Billy fez com que ele se desconectasse de sua verdadeira personalidade, passando a reproduzir nas pessoas os mesmos abusos que sofreu.
My alter is a psychopath with violence tendencies, and it doesn't really feel fair for me to be responsible for his potential actions. I try to do my best to keep us at balance, but life is falling apart around us and it's not really my fault. So if bad things will keep happening, and because of that he will become stronger than me, will it really be my fault if he will do something wrong? Because I don't think so.
@Blxckrose I don’t think your a Nero scientist because the actual Nero scientist I know when never use a satirical statement of 99% with zero data to back up that claim. Nero science is all about data and so apparently you don’t have any to make that statement.
For those asking, Split (the Shyamalan film with James McCavoy) was inspired by this case and the character of Kevin Wendell Crumb and his alters are functionally superpowered versions of what Billy Milligan claimed he and his alters were (complete with a "super" personality that superseded and combined all others: "The Beast" in Split's case and "The Teacher"in Billy's).
Where did you read the part about "super" personality? From what I've read the personalities were normal alters. M Night added the "super" part because that's his brand and it was a movie. I'll be reading a book on Billy Milligan, but curious where you've heard that as I hadn't read that in my preliminary search. What's your source? Thanks!
@@blueskye2790 Hello! I meant "super" in the sense alter called The Professor was allegedly a combination of all previous alters who could enable Billy to live a normal life. This is what I meant by "super" (hence the quotation marks), super in the sense of just superseding the other alters, not actively superhuman. Cheers!
One of Billy's personalities (Ragen) was a Yugoslavian man who could override his adrenal glands to pump adrenalin and cortisol into his blood to make him more alert, faster, stronger, and prepare him for fights. He also understood many martial arts and the locations of pressure points and different choke positions. Ragen was the protector of the group, much like The Beast was a protector for those who resided in Kevin. Ragen actually managed to pry open a closed elevator shaft door that was part-way up/down in a mental institution where he was being treated. He opened the door because there was an anxious woman inside of the elevator who was panicking about being stuck. He opened the door and sat with her and reverted to another personality who was more suited in calming her down. All of this is in the book The Minds of Billy Milligan by Daniel Keyes. Anyone interested in DID (formerly known as MPD) or in Split or the Billy Milligan case, I highly recommend this book.
@@RobbieManic okay, i’m confused. i get the multiple personalities thing but personality only affects the way you act, not things like where you’re from. at the end of the day, they all share the same body so how would one of them be yugoslavian if billy wasn’t born in yugoslavia ?
@@emmett7779 it's a very rare mental illness. But basically the person that has it deals with extremely abusive situations (at a very young age) by 'creating' personalities that can deal with the situation at hand. They then completely dissociate themselves into that other personality. The created personality then takes over and deals with the situation. It's an extreme coping mechanism. This personality can have different trades, age, gender and even nationality. It depends on what is necessary to deal with the situation at that moment. In this case it seems that his mind has created different personalities to deal with different situations. But usually when the person becomes an adult these personalities that originated as a coping mechanism to deal with extremely abusive situations as a child, become a problem instead of a help. The person experiences lost time and doesn't know what happened in the time he or she was 'dormant'.
For those unaware, DiCaprio was roped in to play Billy for a movie titled 'The Crowded Room'. That would have been something. It's now going to be an Apple TV series with Tom Holland playing the character.
Worried about how much added damage this is going to do to the DID community. I hope there's a disclaimer or discussion somewhere that this is an extremely rare situation that so many people who have multiples advocate and have to fight against.
I'm gonna be honest, no one outside of the internet knows about "DID" yet, they still just know it as multiple personality disorder, and I'm sorry that people with that have bad stigma to deal with but it's a little inappropriate to hope that actual crimes/murders arent talked about TOO much in order to make some people not look bad over it. Like, if someone murdered someone one of your family members, would you appreciate seeing people more concerned with the murderer possibility somehow giving THEM blowback hate? I wish people would consider more than just 'omg this is gonna get MEEEEEEE hate now' like maybe its not actually about you, but instead this incident in itself..
@@comfiecozie376 It's not about me. I don't have DID, I'm just extremely aware of the fact that people outside of the Internet do and have this fear around them that other people think they're dangerous in their real life outside world. Saying no one outside knows about DID and still calls it multiple personality disorder is just wrong. Updated medical documents have changed it to reflect a better acknowledgement of the diagnosis. All I wanted was a disclaimer for those people who have DID not get targeted again the way they did with "Split" which this movie was based off of and the success of which this movie is taking advantage of with the obvious tagline at the end. It's not inappropriate at all to want the community who has this diagnosis not be misrepresented when the entire point of this true crime documentary is about whether he even had it or not. Even in the movie "Orphan" they had a disclaimer and still urged people to not let the movie dissuade viewers from the option of adoption.
I’m worried for the community and our littles, kid alters, for this. This is the same guy the made split from and when that came out, our 5 year old, CHILD identity came to me and asked, “Is I bad bad too? Is I gonna go scary? Is we dangerous? I no want to be dangerous! I no want to be scary! I scared!” How do you think people are going to take this movie? Definitely not as a crime documentary but as a mental illness documentary and this may as well be bigger than any of us expected. Just let that sink in-Wyatt
Agreed.. As someone with DID who is honestly still unsure of speaking up about this disorder, this movie may discourage folks with DID to be even more afraid of judgement and shitty assumptions that'll only stigmatize us more. Genuinely hope they really do add a disclaimer to this and not make the community of DID/OSDD any worse than it has already been treated and stigmatized...
I’m worried for the community and our littles, kid alters, for this. This is the same guy the made split from and when that came out, our 5 year old, CHILD identity came to me and asked, “Is I bad bad too? Is I gonna go scary? Is we dangerous? I no want to be dangerous! I no want to be scary! I scared!” How do you think people are going to take this movie? Definitely not as a crime documentary but as a mental illness documentary and this may as well be bigger than any of us expected. Just let that sink in-Wyatt
@@mp_paperbag8483 They didn’t watch one, this was back in 2016. They got scared from a friend’s comment about a horror movie when they happened to overhear a conversation between our friends and one of our teens. That’s how powerful this guy’s image is. Teachers have used Billy and an example for what our community is like and people’s opinions reflect that. One of our ex-friends, who we never told for safety, said and I quote, “Well I’m glad I don’t know anyone like that. I could never see myself around someone with multiple personalities, they’re dangerous, harmful and can never be trusted”. We’re NOTHING like Billy, no true system is. And it repulses me that they keep using this story to represent us
@@chrystalicollective5918 ok but still, if you don’t want your child to be scared of this they should still not see this , beside this documentary is clearly for adult so I’m pretty sure no kiddies should see this ( sorry for my grammar English is not my first language)
You can't wait to watch something that stigmatized DID and mental illness this show is supposed to be about mental illness but starts by stigmatizing it
My brother has schizophrenia and he hears voices in his head, he sometimes also changes his voice to talk in a different “character”. I’ve never had a conversation with one of his “characters”, but when he thinks he’s alone I can hear him having conversations with himself/“characters” and when he changes his voice it gives me chills. Like it’s not just high pitch or lower pitch, but also the cadence might change or he’ll stress a word differently than I know how he would normally say it. It is the most frightening thing I have ever encountered, he’s been like this about 20 years and I still can’t get used to it. I used to think other people were in the room with him and I’d walk in and there would be no one. Sometimes he stares at me and I don’t know who’s looking at me. I can’t even imagine how he feels… I honestly think these types of disorders are the worst illnesses to have. Like you’re a prisoner in Your own mind.
I know a few people that have DID and this series DOES NOT tell the reality of it. Not all killers have DID, andd he didn't become a criminal because of DID. He is acriminal who happens to have DID....
Does it suggest that all killers have DID? I understand it to be telling the reality of his case, not of all. And, I think the reality of HIS case comes closer to exposing him as a fraud rather than implying DID creates criminals
Who cares if he faked it; he still committed the crimes. And as far as not being guilty by reason of insanity: same thing. He wasn’t insane enough to commit his crimes in front of everybody, he knew how to hide and manipulate. It’s not like he raped the three women right out in the open because he didn’t know any better as an “insane” person. No, he knew how to plan and execute the rapes and he intended to not get caught. He wasn’t “insane”; just a psychopath. Who deserves an Oscar.
We love documentaries and crime series, but this really does not help the DID community. Some of the systems might now be more frightened to speak up to others about their disorder. (And that includes us as well) Though, I still have a bit of belief, that one day there will be more movies about how DID/OSDD systems *really* function and how they are not as dangerous as they are portrayed in social media. -Cloe
Heyo! Give the doc a watch- I’m a few episodes in and I think it really delicately handles did and the reasons that people can get this diagnosis. His loving sister and mindful psychiatrists are involved and the show acknowledges painful childhood trauma that can lead to did systems. Glad they’re taking this approach and handling mental health issues carefully! (So far) x
Many people in our life still dont know because of all the stigma surrounding it. Our host has been trying to get an official diagnosis, but not even our psychiatrist takes him seriously. And movies like this and Split DEFINITELY dont help. I'm just hoping, for the sake of our community, that the stigma is short comming, and that true information will be more widespread and even easier to access soon. -Cronus
His brother and his friend hide him from the police make every thing easy so he can keep running away and he killed someone in theses day's but the brother and the friend don't see anything worng in this!
I thought that was so weird too, and then they also said they definitely believe Milligan killed that student... wtf why did you keep helping him then🤯
@@bradymarchewka1886 Ok, but saying that you barely read anymore and you read this would have made the same exact point without stating that you're a millennial. It was just a bit funny to me because it was just a little pointless lol. What do generations have to do with anything?
@@bradymarchewka1886 Lol I'm just trying to understand why you thought it was a good idea to generalize an entire generation like that. It's a bit comical to me, that's all!
Yes. That’s exactly what they should have said from the beginning though. No matter which one of us it is. If we steel or even just forget our homework, we’re still responsible for it cause it’s our shared body
Watched The Crowded Room I want to watch it to compare it to Tom Holland’s character. He’s going to win an Emmy. Should have got nominated for a Golden Globe. Dame it HollyWoke.
I grew up in Athens, Ohio where he was housed at the mental health facility back in the day. He’s a household name where I’m from. Can’t wait to see this!
One of my favs, Primal Fear. This was Ed Norton's first film if you can believe it. He was so damn good. He won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Oscar for best actor in a supporting role. A recommended watch , but don''t look up anything about the movie to avoid spoilers. I've seen spoilers in comments too so avoid those also!
Documentary that makes s rapist/murderer/ criminal look like a victim and hero. I have never seen so many excuses made for one man's actions in my life. Sick
Same feeling. Sick or not the fact is he did it, and while his mental health could be talked about, I think more attention should have been given to the victims he raped and killed.
After watching the entire thing I came away with the opinion that a lot of it was simply an act. Especially once he started getting attention and how he reacted to it and what he said at the end of his life. It's still an amazing story. Even thought some of what he did was probably an act, he definitely got run through the wringer.
I believe in this disorder and no offense to anyone. I am glad they can get help. That said I also think it was an act, I watched his expressions and eye movements carefully. He's lying. Another reason I say this, if anyone noticed Sybil was "proved" 1 year before. I think he studied this and figure, less of a chance for them to think he's lying. I bet Sybil motivated him. Just my opinion
@@loranne2254 If you want to assert there is zero evidence that multiple personalities exist, then just say that. That's fine. But PLEASE don't make up ad hoc arbitrary unfalsifiable "reasons" that you think he's lying based on body movement. Because (this is EXACTLY what unfalsifiable means) I can claim I know he is telling the truth by his eye movements and the way he shakes his head.
I don't think that personality changes can happen that easily. It might take days maybe weeks to go from one to another so I also think that it was just an act
I think calling it Monsters inside misrepresents the survival purpose of the multiple personalities. If you read The Minds of Billy Milligan you find out that Billy Milligan is only alive because his alternate personalities stopped him from commiting suicide at 16 by jumping off of his high school roof. All of the alternate personalities, though many are dysfunctional are a survival mechanism for his true self which received massive trauma.
After I watched the docu. I think it was an act and the doctors by that time is fascinated with that condition and Billy exploited that condition. His changing from one personality to the other looks like the one in movies.
If he has multiple personalities then in my opinion he's not responsible but he should be locked up in an institution and be kept away from the public.
If i he had dissociative identity disorder, he still would have been guilty. Even though there are alters ( other identities ) there is a thing called system accountability. They are different identities not personalities. All those identities are a part of him as a whole. If all identities were fused as it supposed to happen between the age of 6 to 9 ( like everyone else ) they all would have formed one identity.
If he really did have alters then he should have known about system responsibility. In the community, Even if one of my “personalities” did something, it was still our body and you need to be accountable for your actions. No offense to you but that just shouldn’t fly regardless
Why? It’s nothing like how systems are in real life and they use all the wrong terminology and ideas. If you watch this, don’t take any ideas from the mental health aspect except for what it is not
@@chrystalicollective5918 gosh you’re all over the comment section saying this. I think they portrayed DID quite well to the point the victims were completely erased from this story and all sympathy was for him and his disorder forgetting that this guy actually committed some horrible crimes that probably ruined many lives.
@@amoreanissa1337 that’s the thing though. It doesn’t portray what systems actually go through. We’re not voices in the head telling each other to do things like this, we’re our own people. We don’t need sympathy, we need understanding. We don’t come out of “trances”, we dissociate. And we are not one in a million, DID alone is 1-3%. System together are upwards 8%. We’re not difficult to understand if you get to know us. “He wasn’t responsible for the crime” is crap because everyone in the community knows that system accountability is the number one rule when facing things done by our alters. The terms and understanding are extremely outdated and we actually lost people who thought we were monsters between seeing this and seeing split. It’s a harm to our personal lives
@@amoreanissa1337 I mean this sincerely, but please don’t believe this. Billy does not represent this disorder. We are regular people trying to live regular lives. We go to school, we work, we have hobbies. We’re not insane, we’re not dangerous, in fact we’re more likely to become the victim than the general population because to the things people did to us as a child
I read the book ten years ago and found it so fascinating and disturbing.. After watching the documentary though I’m a little more sceptical about Billy..
Heyo! Give the doc a watch- I’m a few episodes in and I think it really delicately handles did and the reasons that people can get this diagnosis. His loving sister and mindful psychiatrists are involved and the show acknowledges painful childhood trauma that can lead to did systems. Glad they’re taking this approach and handling mental health issues carefully! (So far) x
@@GiorgiaHannah you don't have DID and your just insulting everyone who's been abused as a child I've met Kim noble and she has signed her book and ive read that it's probably the best repression of DID
I am so so so so sorry if this offends anyone, but I absolutely believe he faked himself through the whole ordeal and got 'em all fooled, regardless of what they found on whatever scanner they used on him.
For anyone wanting to know, the intro track will be released on an album on 20th October by David Menke and Lionel Limonana. It will be called 'The Devil Inside Me' and will include all the tracks from the documentary. Can't wait! *edit...the date was put back to 4th November
This is going to be bad for people who do have Dissociative Identity Disorder. It's gonna add so much more negativity/stigmatization towards this mental health disorder. I have not seen one movie/documentary about D.I.D. that puts it in the right spotlight.
Hey there. I completely agree except there’s one piece here on TH-cam that does it well. Go see Kintsugi: Parts of a whole. Please stay safe and practice grounding techniques because this will most likely hit hard. Best wishes-Blake (spiritual protector)
Who else noticed that the interview location used for one of the interviewees is the room where Brooks Hatlen hung himself in Shawshank Redemption? Each interview location must be taken from somewhere…
Some psychiatrist in this documentary said ''I don't see anything in his life that would say that he should be considered mentally ill'' Okay, so I guess being verbally, physically and sexually abused as a child by your stepfather isn't considered something traumatic that would lead to someone losing their sanity??? And that same psychiatrist also claims that multiple personality disorder doesn't exist and that Billy was faking it all along!!! I mean the guy did do some serious crimes and he had to be supervised and institutionalized, he was definitely not innocent, but I believe that for him to be treated as someone who was 'totally okay' and was 'just faking it to have fun with the police' is so unfair for him. Yes, he was a criminal but he was also severely mentally ill and needed actual help.
I’m not! I’m worried for the community and our littles, kid alters, for this. This is the same guy the made split from and when that came out, our 5 year old, CHILD identity came to me and asked, “Is I bad bad too? Is I gonna go scary? Is we dangerous? I no want to be dangerous! I no want to be scary! I scared!” How do you think people are going to take this movie? Definitely not as a crime documentary but as a mental illness documentary and this may as well be bigger than any of us expected. Just let that sink in-Wyatt
All I can say is how sorry I am for the victims in this who have been quite frankly completely overlooked and forgotten, I cannot imagine how they navigated through life after being raped and living in turmoil whilst Billy only goes from strength to strength. From the outset of this documentary I didn't believe for a moment that he was suffering from multiple personalities as they then dubbed it. Whilst I do believe people suffer from dissociative identity disorder as a diagnosis, he was a text book narcissistic sociopath who master manipulated his way through life and was enabled beyond belief by people around him, starting with his family, his sister frankly got on my nerves. I don't doubt he was abused as a child it also fits the bill of someone who goes on to cause serious harm to others in life. The tapes of him in therapy pretending to look scared and suddenly unaware of where he was were so CRINGE WORTHY my god and then you have a woman involved in his diagnosis and therapy who had previously cashed in on said illness as if she was ever going to debunk her own theories, she had her own agenda and so instead encouraged him. That team of "experts" not only gave Billy the tools he needed to go on manipulating people but saw an opportunity to further their own names in society. The only real reason half of those quacks took the time with him in the first place is morbid curiosity. Billy was an intelligent and resourceful psychopath who tapped into pop culture at the time, Sybil being one of them. I'm sorry to the people who were murdered by this man and their families, Dwuan Cox felt like a mere footnote in the documentary, you could argue that Billy wasn't officially convicted of their murders but lets be real here, there was plenty of obvious indicators and witnesses who strongly feel Billy was behind their deaths/disappearance. What did I learn from this documentary? That Billy pulled the wool over countless people's eyes and with ease, he spent his life using everyone around him for his own personal gain, that he was considered more important than the victims, that Hollywood continues to be one of the shadiest places on earth and his family particularly his sister was his biggest enabler.
Honestly there is no telling whether or not the victims are still even alive or whether or not the victims have been asked if they would be in this documentary and what their answer was so don’t just go off making assumptions
Even if he was making all this up this documentary is to shed some light on a lot of different things and how about you go ahead and make your own video about the victims of this crime then. This documentary isn’t about that and this isn’t the first documentary that is about people who commit crimes and it doesnt talk much about the victims this documentary is shed light on something different. You do realize that some people can be sued for talking about the victims and giving victims names and information…. Just saying maybe that’s why they didn’t go into detail on them.
@@Donnydarko9912 I always find it amusing how aggressive people are towards others in comment sections, you seem to have taken my personal opinion of Billy Milligan and this netflix documentary personally as if my words have insulted you somehow. My opinion remains the same and was a broader look at not just the documentary but the reality of what transpired back then. I'm well aware of obtaining the rights and former agreements to personal information being shared in documentaries, me pointing out that back then and now the victims have been overlooked by the law and the public, which furthermore means the crime of rape and trauma have been overlooked because they Billy's noterietay and stardom outshone them. You mention the documentary's intentions to shed light, maybe... but i'd wager the producers and directors intentions is to make entertainment and money by tapping into what people love...serial killers, i include myself in the same target audience. All documentaries have a certain amount of bias that is apparent in the final edit and indeed exactly how it is edited. It's was intentional that the group of psychiatrists who are far more informed and qualified than either of us to speak on what and who Billy was were kept out of the documentary until the very end where there was a brief few minutes of them explaining that Billy was a master manipulator and psychopath and nothing more. I don't know if by shed light you also meant DID but personally i learnt nothing about the mental health disorder watching this as i believe he never had it. I have however learnt about it from other documentaries that interview people with DID. My original comment wasn't me saying the documentary itself was outright shit it was an honest critic of how Billy in real life and the documentary continues to be looked at as more than he actually he is. No one was interviewed from Billy's childhood who wasn't family or a friend that had differing opinions or experiences, that wasn't an accident it's intentional. It maintains the narrative that Billy was a victim in a variety of ways and when you only hear from his family its undeniably biased.
@@kellymarieapplebee when I wrote my comment I did not finish the whole thing. He definitely was faking it and was very calculated. I do recall a couple times where they did bring up how the victims were forgotten about because of all this multiple personalities stunt. And I do recall a couple people not believing it to be real. I belive in the end they showed the true monster he was because it was a roller coaster ride of feeling for the guy, not sure, to he definitely was lying and putting on a show the whole time. I don’t think the documentary stuck up for him it was obviously about him. Again this isn’t the first time a documentary on a killer didn’t talk about the victim or victims or brings them up a couple times. I work for a law firm and there are legal issues when you do that. You can’t just freely talk about someone to the world without consent and more. Even family can sue.
@@Donnydarko9912 I think for the most part we're clearly in agreement, i think perhaps you've misunderstood what i'm trying to say which over the internet and not face to face is easy enough to do. It's really not about the victims names and personal identities being exposed, in film making and editing it really is easier than you think to display authentic and genuine respect and consideration to victims without releasing their identities or specific details of the crime. I agree with you completely when you say the documentary had a different agenda, whilst i don't think it was about shedding light as it was basic gory entertainment, it doing so it only highlights how much injustice the victims suffered with the fact they never got justice in the first place but had to figure out how to move through life whilst they watch the man who caused them the most harm in life become a celebrity. I'm merely pointing out the facts of what transpired, this documentary is a part of the hype, his hype whether it intended to be or not but i strongly suspect it was. I'll finish by saying its a relief to hear other people like yourself agree on Billy's true state of mind as you only have to have a quick scroll through comment sections to see how many people truly believe in Billy's acting and manipulation, he was a cunning and intelligent man but an evil bastard all the same. I'm not judging people that believe his personal claims, i myself have admitted before after watching Ed Kemper's interviews that out of all the serial killer/psychopath footage i've watched over the years, Ed Kemper has been the one person that i believe could of completely manipulated me and convinced in certain ways.
Dr. Willis C Driscoll, who diagnosed Billy as schizophrenic, left his office one day at lunch time and never returned. His sister called the police in North Carolina explaining that Dr. Driscoll was living with his mother and would not let her speak with her mother. The police went to home and found Dr. Driscoll's 96 year old mother dead on her bedroom floor with trash surrounding her body. Dr Driscoll had place bath towels under the bedroom door to lessen the odor.
I would say the truth always lies somewhere in the middle…… least this presents both sides…. And how some people might had been nudging the truth for their own personal gain….
I know a few people that have DID and this series DOES NOT tell the reality of it. Not all killers have DID, andd he didn't become a criminal because of DID. He is acriminal who happens to have DID....
Another fantastic documentary that helps explain extreme violent behavior and serial killers are crazy, not insane. Many have multiple personalities. The documentary is actually called Crazy Not Insane. Ted Bundy is one they show thru his lifetime he had different personas including his violent grandfather Sam, was one of his alters. He even signed letters Sam to his girlfriend
I've been waiting for a biopic adaptation film based on this case since I had read the book. They even said Leonardo diCaprio was casted as the lead role at some point.
@UltraOnaStar please explain why this documentary would hurt DID/OSDD community instead of, maybe, opening people's mind and giving them new knowledge about DID/OSDD?
I know a few people that have DID and this series DOES NOT tell the reality of it. Not all killers have DID, andd he didn't become a criminal because of DID. He is acriminal who happens to have DID....
“I don’t know what personality he wants to go to prison with, but one of them is going to prison!” 😂😂😂
went with Reagan
Best line ever 😂
I had to replay that part several times. HILARIOUS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Girl 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....
Пасть закрой Сникерс
How all 24 personalities agree on that haircut?
hahahah
Girl Stop!!😩🤣😭😭
😂😂😂
Funniest comment all day!
lol
WE WANT MINDHUNTER SEASON 3
Smash like button, cmon netflix!!!!
PLEASSSEEEE
It’s not going to happen. The director has released the actors because he wants to work on some movies.
Yes Yes and Yes!!! Please.
@@jasoni4090 and I hate him for it
The crowded room was such a good show
No it was not it wasn’t about Billy Milligan
@@GunrunnerTactical it kinda was. it was based on the book The Minds of Billy Milligan
my mom is a Psychiatrist, she tells me this diagnose is incredibly rare ; most are fake, she claims this case is the real deal. This kid was tortured as child, physically, emotional, sexual, and psychological. Plus, if you throw a delicate child into the mix, you have a perfect storm.
But why would he lie about speaking arabic and servo-kroatian? A person with DID doesn't need lies like that to prove their mental illness I think? Or could this be another personality: Rudy the pathological liar?
Idk, new studies say it's not that rare, just often misdiagnosed. Whatever it is tho it isn't like plurals shouldn't be held accountable for IRL crimes
Is there a book. The Minds of Billy Milligan by Daniel Keyes
It's not rare but is rare having 24 different personalities not 5 or 6 @@gebbygebbers
@@saeedbabbar3212 if you talkin bout how many alters someone has, numbers are not a standard, some people have 2~6, some 10~20, hell polyfragmented systems have 100+ if they never treat the reason to keeping so many around. but personalities, yeah, not a lot of slates to begin with, all aspects of a person translate to one. alters have similar executive functions, and you can't hide your memories forever no matter how many people are in there... we are not above consequences.
I actually play Billy Milligan in the reenactment scenes in this, so excited to finally see it!
Aw badass!!! I can't wait to watch it, i bet you did great! What was it like? Did you have to do anything in particular to prepare for the role?
@@nomdeplume2213 Well thank you so much. I did a lot of research before the role, and really tried to get his mannerisms down. Since I had no actual dialogue it was all just physical acting, which wasn’t easy haha. But it was a great experience.
@Luke 1234 Lolol had me going there for a minute 😂
Which one of you?
@@johnnydubya8071 Ha, saw what you did there! Nice.
Looks really good. Love when Netflix do true crime documentaries.
Indeed.
None have touched the lvl of MINDHUNTER yet but yeah they are good
But it was a true crime series so it's not that diff.
You love that they're stigmatized DID? Look up real people with DID you will see that they hate this and how stigmatizing it is for those suffering from DID
They are all extremely formulaic and you rarely learn anything
I actually worked at a behavioral health center as an office assistant, and one patient (I’ll never forget him) had two personalities outside of himself. The first time I met the man I was left speechless because I was listening to three different people holding conversations but were the same person! It was so fascinating and educational.
They were nice and very polite. One of them even remembered me from a previous visit because I offered them a snack the other two were unaware that happened.
I hope where ever they are, that life is kind to them and they live a long and healthy life. 🙏🏽
I just hope they do this with respect to the community of people who struggle with this disorder my grandmother had it and I can tell you from growing up with her (them). This is the most frightening disorder for the person who has it (sometimes) but very much the family who has to be around said person. I am a true crime fan hardcore but I have read the book and seen the other attempts at this story. The book fabulous I just truly hope they do justice to the fact that this is a rare disorder , and that this is not how it presents itself for the majority of people whom have it. The DSM has changed the name since both he and my grandma were diagnosed which I very much appreciate.
I hope that too. I started learning about DID after watching split and now I feel terrible about how it is portrayed on tv.
As an alter in a D.I.D system, gotta say, I hope that too. The way they portray system in media is, just eugh.
Heyo! Give the doc a watch- I’m a few episodes in and I think it really delicately handles did and the reasons that people can get this diagnosis. His loving sister and mindful psychiatrists are involved and the show acknowledges painful childhood trauma that can lead to did systems. Glad they’re taking this approach and handling mental health issues carefully! (So far) x
thank you
yes
Man Netflix is good at these Doc mini series
The book "The Minds of Billy Milligan" is incredible, can't wait to see this crimedoc!
You mean stigmatizing and you can't wait to see them stigmatize DID
@@Mattchupichue hopefully they will be exposing the conman
@@Mattchupichue It’s best to see the actual thing before saying that🤷♂️
OMG YES!
@@nethmeedantanarayana4811 why? the whole thing was a con. same with every alleged case of mpd. ITS A CON CREATED BY CORRUPT SHRINKS
I am shocked by how many of the men portrayed - journalists, policemen, judges, doctors - have zero problems with befriending a rapist, stating how they „never felt endangerd by him“ and even adoring him. It‘s a complex story and I get that the offender‘s mental illness is the most interesting part to many people but I think that the female victims did not get the empathy and solidarity they deserved.
These "men" are the ones who get their hands dirty every time a lunatic is out there, and they do a whole lot much more than "solidarity" in youtube comments. See the John Gacy case for example, it's on netflix too, and watch how much sh*t they had to go through, it won't be a snowflake interrogating, staking, arresting or digging up decomposing corpses and putting their life on the line that whole time doin it when sh*t hits the fan so let's show a bit of respect to those men
Exactly! I just finished watching it and I’m honestly disgusted. It was all about him and his problems and zero empathy for the victims, they were pretty erased throughout the whole serie as if his crime was equivalent to stealing a few sweets from the shop 🙄🙄
Just finished watching and thought exactly this!! Now, after hearing of his deathbed confessions, I'm even more horrified he got away with this!!
I wish I could say I'm shocked, but I'm not. They do it routinely across the world.
Female victims have too much empathy
This is a horrible mental disorder that is usually the result of extreme trauma. When children are abused by monsters, their mind does the only thing it can. The mind disassociates from the body in order to keep the body alive because what the body is enduring, is too much for a child's mind to comprehend. It's awful, it's tragic and horrendous. What happened to cause the disorder was in no way the child's fault. I'm not familiar with who Billy Milligan is or what he is accused of doing. When a person causes harm to other people, depending on the severity of that harm, they can't be free to do it again.
@@kismetau Just a tip, the name has been changed from “Multiple Personality Disorder” to “Dissociative Identity Disorder” and most systems don’t like the term personality. Alters is a better word to use.
@@idkdude420 understood but Jenny actually prefers the MP term if you watch this interview - Woman conjures multiple personalities (can’t link it here) because she says her alters aren’t dissociative.
@@kismetau I’ve seen the documentary you’re talking about. I was referring to the community as a whole, but every system is different.
@@idkdude420 yes but l was only referring to her case.
Dissociative Identity Disorder is fake disorder that is not real. It is totaly made up.
We have DID, but none of our alters are evil like this. Yes I do feel bad what Billy went through as a kid we understand childhood abuse, but there is no excuse to make others a victim because you had a messed up childhood. As a system taking responsibility for your alters is very important.
agree. 1 for office/work/public, 2 for home with fam, 3 for private/solitude well at least that's my faces of personalities but still on one name not different like usual DID case
Mas ele não fez vítimas só porque teve uma infância complicada. Ele fez vítimas porque visivelmente estava transtornado mentalmente, ou seja, não era mais ele.
O trauma que tudo isso causou no Billy fez com que ele se desconectasse de sua verdadeira personalidade, passando a reproduzir nas pessoas os mesmos abusos que sofreu.
My alter is a psychopath with violence tendencies, and it doesn't really feel fair for me to be responsible for his potential actions. I try to do my best to keep us at balance, but life is falling apart around us and it's not really my fault. So if bad things will keep happening, and because of that he will become stronger than me, will it really be my fault if he will do something wrong? Because I don't think so.
@Blxckrose I don’t think your a Nero scientist because the actual Nero scientist I know when never use a satirical statement of 99% with zero data to back up that claim. Nero science is all about data and so apparently you don’t have any to make that statement.
@andersonsystem2 he also spelled infact as one word instead of 2 and that's pretty easy to spot..
For those asking, Split (the Shyamalan film with James McCavoy) was inspired by this case and the character of Kevin Wendell Crumb and his alters are functionally superpowered versions of what Billy Milligan claimed he and his alters were (complete with a "super" personality that superseded and combined all others: "The Beast" in Split's case and "The Teacher"in Billy's).
Where did you read the part about "super" personality? From what I've read the personalities were normal alters. M Night added the "super" part because that's his brand and it was a movie. I'll be reading a book on Billy Milligan, but curious where you've heard that as I hadn't read that in my preliminary search. What's your source? Thanks!
@@blueskye2790 Hello! I meant "super" in the sense alter called The Professor was allegedly a combination of all previous alters who could enable Billy to live a normal life. This is what I meant by "super" (hence the quotation marks), super in the sense of just superseding the other alters, not actively superhuman. Cheers!
One of Billy's personalities (Ragen) was a Yugoslavian man who could override his adrenal glands to pump adrenalin and cortisol into his blood to make him more alert, faster, stronger, and prepare him for fights. He also understood many martial arts and the locations of pressure points and different choke positions. Ragen was the protector of the group, much like The Beast was a protector for those who resided in Kevin. Ragen actually managed to pry open a closed elevator shaft door that was part-way up/down in a mental institution where he was being treated. He opened the door because there was an anxious woman inside of the elevator who was panicking about being stuck. He opened the door and sat with her and reverted to another personality who was more suited in calming her down.
All of this is in the book The Minds of Billy Milligan by Daniel Keyes. Anyone interested in DID (formerly known as MPD) or in Split or the Billy Milligan case, I highly recommend this book.
@@RobbieManic okay, i’m confused. i get the multiple personalities thing but personality only affects the way you act, not things like where you’re from. at the end of the day, they all share the same body so how would one of them be yugoslavian if billy wasn’t born in yugoslavia ?
@@emmett7779 it's a very rare mental illness. But basically the person that has it deals with extremely abusive situations (at a very young age) by 'creating' personalities that can deal with the situation at hand. They then completely dissociate themselves into that other personality. The created personality then takes over and deals with the situation. It's an extreme coping mechanism. This personality can have different trades, age, gender and even nationality. It depends on what is necessary to deal with the situation at that moment. In this case it seems that his mind has created different personalities to deal with different situations. But usually when the person becomes an adult these personalities that originated as a coping mechanism to deal with extremely abusive situations as a child, become a problem instead of a help. The person experiences lost time and doesn't know what happened in the time he or she was 'dormant'.
For those unaware, DiCaprio was roped in to play Billy for a movie titled 'The Crowded Room'. That would have been something. It's now going to be an Apple TV series with Tom Holland playing the character.
Awh man anything but Tom Holland
Tom Holland though? He has such a baby face, Leo would've been fab.
That's quite the jump, from DiCaprio to Holland.
@@kkelseym If you've seen The Devil All The Time or even Cherry you know Holland can pull it off.
That would 've been Oscar time again for Leo
Worried about how much added damage this is going to do to the DID community. I hope there's a disclaimer or discussion somewhere that this is an extremely rare situation that so many people who have multiples advocate and have to fight against.
I'm gonna be honest, no one outside of the internet knows about "DID" yet, they still just know it as multiple personality disorder, and I'm sorry that people with that have bad stigma to deal with but it's a little inappropriate to hope that actual crimes/murders arent talked about TOO much in order to make some people not look bad over it. Like, if someone murdered someone one of your family members, would you appreciate seeing people more concerned with the murderer possibility somehow giving THEM blowback hate? I wish people would consider more than just 'omg this is gonna get MEEEEEEE hate now' like maybe its not actually about you, but instead this incident in itself..
@@comfiecozie376 It's not about me. I don't have DID, I'm just extremely aware of the fact that people outside of the Internet do and have this fear around them that other people think they're dangerous in their real life outside world. Saying no one outside knows about DID and still calls it multiple personality disorder is just wrong. Updated medical documents have changed it to reflect a better acknowledgement of the diagnosis. All I wanted was a disclaimer for those people who have DID not get targeted again the way they did with "Split" which this movie was based off of and the success of which this movie is taking advantage of with the obvious tagline at the end. It's not inappropriate at all to want the community who has this diagnosis not be misrepresented when the entire point of this true crime documentary is about whether he even had it or not. Even in the movie "Orphan" they had a disclaimer and still urged people to not let the movie dissuade viewers from the option of adoption.
I really do hope there’s a disclaimer and thanks for helping us voice the concerns behind this. It really means a lot-Blake (spiritual protector)
I’m worried for the community and our littles, kid alters, for this. This is the same guy the made split from and when that came out, our 5 year old, CHILD identity came to me and asked, “Is I bad bad too? Is I gonna go scary? Is we dangerous? I no want to be dangerous! I no want to be scary! I scared!” How do you think people are going to take this movie? Definitely not as a crime documentary but as a mental illness documentary and this may as well be bigger than any of us expected. Just let that sink in-Wyatt
Agreed.. As someone with DID who is honestly still unsure of speaking up about this disorder, this movie may discourage folks with DID to be even more afraid of judgement and shitty assumptions that'll only stigmatize us more. Genuinely hope they really do add a disclaimer to this and not make the community of DID/OSDD any worse than it has already been treated and stigmatized...
Netflix kills when it comes to true crime docs. I'm excited for this one. That last line is perfect, too.
I’m worried for the community and our littles, kid alters, for this. This is the same guy the made split from and when that came out, our 5 year old, CHILD identity came to me and asked, “Is I bad bad too? Is I gonna go scary? Is we dangerous? I no want to be dangerous! I no want to be scary! I scared!” How do you think people are going to take this movie? Definitely not as a crime documentary but as a mental illness documentary and this may as well be bigger than any of us expected. Just let that sink in-Wyatt
@@chrystalicollective5918 sorry but don’t let your 5 year old watch true crime documentary ._.
@@mp_paperbag8483 They didn’t watch one, this was back in 2016. They got scared from a friend’s comment about a horror movie when they happened to overhear a conversation between our friends and one of our teens. That’s how powerful this guy’s image is. Teachers have used Billy and an example for what our community is like and people’s opinions reflect that. One of our ex-friends, who we never told for safety, said and I quote, “Well I’m glad I don’t know anyone like that. I could never see myself around someone with multiple personalities, they’re dangerous, harmful and can never be trusted”. We’re NOTHING like Billy, no true system is. And it repulses me that they keep using this story to represent us
@@chrystalicollective5918 ok but still, if you don’t want your child to be scared of this they should still not see this , beside this documentary is clearly for adult so I’m pretty sure no kiddies should see this ( sorry for my grammar English is not my first language)
@@mp_paperbag8483 They never did. It was all through word of mouth
BEEN CRAVING FOR THIS SINCE SPLIT(2016)...FINALLY ITS HERE ....COUNT ME IN...
i was an RA and had a resident with DID. it was incredibly challenging getting him the help he needed. i really hope he's doing well now.
>>Have you ever seen someone change
personalities right in front of your eyes?
"Yes. Yes, I have. His name is James McAvoy." =)
Can’t wait to see this document. Netflix nails it when it comes to true crime documents
You can't wait to watch something that stigmatized DID and mental illness this show is supposed to be about mental illness but starts by stigmatizing it
I can’t wait to see it either, and I just finished watching it.
My brother has schizophrenia and he hears voices in his head, he sometimes also changes his voice to talk in a different “character”. I’ve never had a conversation with one of his “characters”, but when he thinks he’s alone I can hear him having conversations with himself/“characters” and when he changes his voice it gives me chills. Like it’s not just high pitch or lower pitch, but also the cadence might change or he’ll stress a word differently than I know how he would normally say it.
It is the most frightening thing I have ever encountered, he’s been like this about 20 years and I still can’t get used to it.
I used to think other people were in the room with him and I’d walk in and there would be no one.
Sometimes he stares at me and I don’t know who’s looking at me.
I can’t even imagine how he feels… I honestly think these types of disorders are the worst illnesses to have. Like you’re a prisoner in Your own mind.
stop doing wrong, read the bible, believe in Jesus Christ the Son of the living God only He can forgive you sins & redeem your life & save from hell
I know a few people that have DID and this series DOES NOT tell the reality of it. Not all killers have DID, andd he didn't become a criminal because of DID. He is acriminal who happens to have DID....
Thank you
Are you french?
Does it suggest that all killers have DID? I understand it to be telling the reality of his case, not of all. And, I think the reality of HIS case comes closer to exposing him as a fraud rather than implying DID creates criminals
Who cares if he faked it; he still committed the crimes. And as far as not being guilty by reason of insanity: same thing. He wasn’t insane enough to commit his crimes in front of everybody, he knew how to hide and manipulate. It’s not like he raped the three women right out in the open because he didn’t know any better as an “insane” person. No, he knew how to plan and execute the rapes and he intended to not get caught. He wasn’t “insane”; just a psychopath. Who deserves an Oscar.
We love documentaries and crime series, but this really does not help the DID community. Some of the systems might now be more frightened to speak up to others about their disorder. (And that includes us as well)
Though, I still have a bit of belief, that one day there will be more movies about how DID/OSDD systems *really* function and how they are not as dangerous as they are portrayed in social media. -Cloe
Heyo! Give the doc a watch- I’m a few episodes in and I think it really delicately handles did and the reasons that people can get this diagnosis. His loving sister and mindful psychiatrists are involved and the show acknowledges painful childhood trauma that can lead to did systems. Glad they’re taking this approach and handling mental health issues carefully! (So far) x
Many people in our life still dont know because of all the stigma surrounding it. Our host has been trying to get an official diagnosis, but not even our psychiatrist takes him seriously. And movies like this and Split DEFINITELY dont help. I'm just hoping, for the sake of our community, that the stigma is short comming, and that true information will be more widespread and even easier to access soon. -Cronus
Netflix, keeping the true crime kids fed. 🖤
His brother and his friend hide him from the police make every thing easy so he can keep running away and he killed someone in theses day's but the brother and the friend don't see anything worng in this!
exactly they all needed to be locked up this rapist and killer was living a holiday laughing.
I thought that was so weird too, and then they also said they definitely believe Milligan killed that student... wtf why did you keep helping him then🤯
I'm a millennial who barely reads anymore, but The Minds of Billy Milligan is THE BEST I have ever read.
Lol but why would you start by saying you're a millennial? What does that have to do with anything? Lmao!
@@UnchainedMelodie92 Because Millennials and Gen Z barely read compared to other generations......
@@bradymarchewka1886 Ok, but saying that you barely read anymore and you read this would have made the same exact point without stating that you're a millennial. It was just a bit funny to me because it was just a little pointless lol. What do generations have to do with anything?
@@UnchainedMelodie92 That's a great question. I would counter with what are you trying to achieve from this exchange?
@@bradymarchewka1886 Lol I'm just trying to understand why you thought it was a good idea to generalize an entire generation like that. It's a bit comical to me, that's all!
The end statement is perfect ☺️
Yes. That’s exactly what they should have said from the beginning though. No matter which one of us it is. If we steel or even just forget our homework, we’re still responsible for it cause it’s our shared body
Watched The Crowded Room I want to watch it to compare it to Tom Holland’s character. He’s going to win an Emmy. Should have got nominated for a Golden Globe. Dame it HollyWoke.
I grew up in Athens, Ohio where he was housed at the mental health facility back in the day. He’s a household name where I’m from. Can’t wait to see this!
I was searching for this kind of show all of a sudden and Netflix just uploads it! it is freaking me out but also looking forward
ok
Watch Primal Fear if you havent seen it
@@laneythelame thank you for recommendation :)
For those waiting to see this, I’d recommend “Primal Fear” with Richard Gere and Laura Linney
I love this movie !!
THAnks!
One of my favs, Primal Fear. This was Ed Norton's first film if you can believe it. He was so damn good. He won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Oscar for best actor in a supporting role. A recommended watch , but don''t look up anything about the movie to avoid spoilers. I've seen spoilers in comments too so avoid those also!
One of my favorites. Then I saw The Fight Club and then I had 2 favorites of that genre.
Yup...one of the best movies ever!
Documentary that makes s rapist/murderer/ criminal look like a victim and hero. I have never seen so many excuses made for one man's actions in my life. Sick
I thought it was only me. They were more concerned about his “illness” than the women he raped.. sickening
Same feeling. Sick or not the fact is he did it, and while his mental health could be talked about, I think more attention should have been given to the victims he raped and killed.
He knew that he kinda had power to whatever he wanted and it was blamed on the disorder that the psychologists are not even sure of.
@@candidaarlindo3931 Billy definitely raped the women but he didn’t do murder
THANK YOU.
After watching the entire thing I came away with the opinion that a lot of it was simply an act. Especially once he started getting attention and how he reacted to it and what he said at the end of his life. It's still an amazing story. Even thought some of what he did was probably an act, he definitely got run through the wringer.
I believe in this disorder and no offense to anyone. I am glad they can get help.
That said I also think it was an act, I watched his expressions and eye movements carefully. He's lying.
Another reason I say this, if anyone noticed Sybil was "proved" 1 year before. I think he studied this and figure, less of a chance for them to think he's lying.
I bet Sybil motivated him.
Just my opinion
@@loranne2254 I agree but this guy went into overkill pardon the pun There' s a fine line between being a pathological liar and a good actor.
@@loranne2254 If you want to assert there is zero evidence that multiple personalities exist, then just say that. That's fine.
But PLEASE don't make up ad hoc arbitrary unfalsifiable "reasons" that you think he's lying based on body movement.
Because (this is EXACTLY what unfalsifiable means) I can claim I know he is telling the truth by his eye movements and the way he shakes his head.
I don't think that personality changes can happen that easily. It might take days maybe weeks to go from one to another so I also think that it was just an act
And also the book sybil was later proven that it was just a hoax. The woman who was portrayed as sybil said that she faked her personalities.
His mother is just as guilty as his abusers. Shocking to let that happen to your own child - no excuse.
I'm thinking of Primal Fear. That revelation scene always gets me. It's up there with Keyser Soze. 🔥
Excellent movie
I use it in film class. Always has the impact you hope for. Great as Edward Norton was, credit Richard Gere for a landmark performance.
Netflix’s True crime series always 👍🏻
I think calling it Monsters inside misrepresents the survival purpose of the multiple personalities. If you read The Minds of Billy Milligan you find out that Billy Milligan is only alive because his alternate personalities stopped him from commiting suicide at 16 by jumping off of his high school roof. All of the alternate personalities, though many are dysfunctional are a survival mechanism for his true self which received massive trauma.
They should of let him jump tho.
@@lowrider81hdI thought so too. He got away with raping those women and murdering two men and who knows if there are others? 😢
All l know is anyone who kills, whether its insanity or not, should be locked up somewhere. We can't live in a world full of lunatics
Ikr😢
After I watched the docu. I think it was an act and the doctors by that time is fascinated with that condition and Billy exploited that condition. His changing from one personality to the other looks like the one in movies.
Damn another murder documentary. Hah, you son of a bit#%, im in.
You're in?
Hah, you son of a b*tch, I'm in
Same here😎
Actually, he was.
The crowded room starring tom holland is truly amazing and is based on this,definitely give it a watch
Currently watching. Epi 7 and 8 are great.
If he has multiple personalities then in my opinion he's not responsible but he should be locked up in an institution and be kept away from the public.
That’s what they did, he’s dead already
Dissociative Identity Disorder is fake.
If i he had dissociative identity disorder, he still would have been guilty. Even though there are alters ( other identities ) there is a thing called system accountability. They are different identities not personalities. All those identities are a part of him as a whole. If all identities were fused as it supposed to happen between the age of 6 to 9 ( like everyone else ) they all would have formed one identity.
This is great example of stigma like you understand how sectioning works and mental health act SMH
If he really did have alters then he should have known about system responsibility. In the community, Even if one of my “personalities” did something, it was still our body and you need to be accountable for your actions. No offense to you but that just shouldn’t fly regardless
I've read the book in college as a psychology major and I was blown away!
May I know what the book is?
@@gloriapellerin5503 The book is called The Minds Of Billy Milligan.
FINALLY. I get to see the documentary of the famous Billy Milligan. I wish my family could see this when it comes out.
Why? It’s nothing like how systems are in real life and they use all the wrong terminology and ideas. If you watch this, don’t take any ideas from the mental health aspect except for what it is not
@@chrystalicollective5918 gosh you’re all over the comment section saying this. I think they portrayed DID quite well to the point the victims were completely erased from this story and all sympathy was for him and his disorder forgetting that this guy actually committed some horrible crimes that probably ruined many lives.
@@amoreanissa1337 that’s the thing though. It doesn’t portray what systems actually go through. We’re not voices in the head telling each other to do things like this, we’re our own people. We don’t need sympathy, we need understanding. We don’t come out of “trances”, we dissociate. And we are not one in a million, DID alone is 1-3%. System together are upwards 8%. We’re not difficult to understand if you get to know us. “He wasn’t responsible for the crime” is crap because everyone in the community knows that system accountability is the number one rule when facing things done by our alters. The terms and understanding are extremely outdated and we actually lost people who thought we were monsters between seeing this and seeing split. It’s a harm to our personal lives
@@amoreanissa1337 I mean this sincerely, but please don’t believe this. Billy does not represent this disorder. We are regular people trying to live regular lives. We go to school, we work, we have hobbies. We’re not insane, we’re not dangerous, in fact we’re more likely to become the victim than the general population because to the things people did to us as a child
Gotta watch this!! Getting the pizza and beer ready for tonight👍
good stuff
PSA
I finished this series in one sitting! Absolutely amazing and super dooper interesting 👏👍
I read the book "The Minds of Billy Milligan" many years ago. It fascinated me
Billy was the best actor to ever reach Hollywood in that decade undisputed.
Umm this frickin acc releases new movie every hour
Indeed.
And?! So what's your point?!
As they should. That’s why we’re subscribed
Split........the nation. Well done Netflix, well done
I read the book ten years ago and found it so fascinating and disturbing.. After watching the documentary though I’m a little more sceptical about Billy..
Netflix continues to stigmatize DID not surprised at this point
Media exploiting mental illness and vunerable people as per usual
It’s horrible and there’s no wonder why there’s so much stigma around it!
Heyo! Give the doc a watch- I’m a few episodes in and I think it really delicately handles did and the reasons that people can get this diagnosis. His loving sister and mindful psychiatrists are involved and the show acknowledges painful childhood trauma that can lead to did systems. Glad they’re taking this approach and handling mental health issues carefully! (So far) x
@@GiorgiaHannah you don't have DID and your just insulting everyone who's been abused as a child I've met Kim noble and she has signed her book and ive read that it's probably the best repression of DID
Not really since they suggest he faked the whole thing.
When you've been watching the news all day you have to turn on a serial killer documentary to relax.
SPLIT real stories???
I've got 25 personalities when I'm hungry.
Billy Milligan is also the focus of the TV show The Crowded Room, starred Tom Holland.
Mind Hunters season 3 Pls!🙏
I live for crime docs
I heard this story on the podcast mysterious universe a year or so ago and all I can say is it's a wild ride.
I am so so so so sorry if this offends anyone, but I absolutely believe he faked himself through the whole ordeal and got 'em all fooled, regardless of what they found on whatever scanner they used on him.
The 2003 horror movie “identity” was based on Billy.
1:34 what a line
The end quote check mate! 🤔
I don't care which personality done it
But 1 of them is going to jail!
Sweet Justice😁
😂😂😂😂
For anyone wanting to know, the intro track will be released on an album on 20th October by David Menke and Lionel Limonana. It will be called 'The Devil Inside Me' and will include all the tracks from the documentary. Can't wait!
*edit...the date was put back to 4th November
Oh man!! I read Minds of Billy Milligan about 20 years ago and been waiting for this since
the music is Chord Left by Agnes Obel. A great song!
What’s the intro song for each episode?
Yeah I'm also looking for the intro
The book was so interesting 😍😍😍 can't believe I'm seeing this documentary trailer Now!!!!!!
i'm currently reading the book and honestly I cannot wait for this!
You can't wait for them to stigmatize DID eww
I have been waiting all my life for this
@UltraOnaStar yep I have read the book on billy Milligan’s story and sympathized greatly with what he went through - he isn’t a monster
1:36 - The 24 Faces of Billy Milligan
This is going to be bad for people who do have Dissociative Identity Disorder. It's gonna add so much more negativity/stigmatization towards this mental health disorder. I have not seen one movie/documentary about D.I.D. that puts it in the right spotlight.
Hey there. I completely agree except there’s one piece here on TH-cam that does it well. Go see Kintsugi: Parts of a whole. Please stay safe and practice grounding techniques because this will most likely hit hard. Best wishes-Blake (spiritual protector)
@@chrystalicollective5918 Thank you i for sure will look it up. -Sebastian-Gatekeeper
Who else noticed that the interview location used for one of the interviewees is the room where Brooks Hatlen hung himself in Shawshank Redemption? Each interview location must be taken from somewhere…
Good eye!
Some psychiatrist in this documentary said ''I don't see anything in his life that would say that he should be considered mentally ill''
Okay, so I guess being verbally, physically and sexually abused as a child by your stepfather isn't considered something traumatic that would lead to someone losing their sanity??? And that same psychiatrist also claims that multiple personality disorder doesn't exist and that Billy was faking it all along!!!
I mean the guy did do some serious crimes and he had to be supervised and institutionalized, he was definitely not innocent, but I believe that for him to be treated as someone who was 'totally okay' and was 'just faking it to have fun with the police' is so unfair for him. Yes, he was a criminal but he was also severely mentally ill and needed actual help.
That monster 😢
Netflix is killing it (pun intended) with all their documentaries!
The book is so amazing holy shit I’m glad they’re doing this
The book stigmatizes DID and this will too so your glad to see DID be stigmatized SMH
@@Mattchupichue which personality of yours got ahold of your computer and decided to leave that stupid comment?
@@Mattchupichue lighten up, bruh.
I’m not! I’m worried for the community and our littles, kid alters, for this. This is the same guy the made split from and when that came out, our 5 year old, CHILD identity came to me and asked, “Is I bad bad too? Is I gonna go scary? Is we dangerous? I no want to be dangerous! I no want to be scary! I scared!” How do you think people are going to take this movie? Definitely not as a crime documentary but as a mental illness documentary and this may as well be bigger than any of us expected. Just let that sink in-Wyatt
Can’t wait to see Tom Holland portray this creepy dude. He has upped his game by a lot in acting.
Can you upload this documentary here.. It'd very interesting and I would like to watch it here on TH-cam
Billy was just a good ass actor that’s all
Not really, you should read A book about him
Dude spoke Arabic without learning.
@@6996nishantActually they interviewed the cell mate who asked him to teach him and translate words. Did you see that in the documentary?
All I can say is how sorry I am for the victims in this who have been quite frankly completely overlooked and forgotten, I cannot imagine how they navigated through life after being raped and living in turmoil whilst Billy only goes from strength to strength. From the outset of this documentary I didn't believe for a moment that he was suffering from multiple personalities as they then dubbed it. Whilst I do believe people suffer from dissociative identity disorder as a diagnosis, he was a text book narcissistic sociopath who master manipulated his way through life and was enabled beyond belief by people around him, starting with his family, his sister frankly got on my nerves. I don't doubt he was abused as a child it also fits the bill of someone who goes on to cause serious harm to others in life. The tapes of him in therapy pretending to look scared and suddenly unaware of where he was were so CRINGE WORTHY my god and then you have a woman involved in his diagnosis and therapy who had previously cashed in on said illness as if she was ever going to debunk her own theories, she had her own agenda and so instead encouraged him. That team of "experts" not only gave Billy the tools he needed to go on manipulating people but saw an opportunity to further their own names in society. The only real reason half of those quacks took the time with him in the first place is morbid curiosity. Billy was an intelligent and resourceful psychopath who tapped into pop culture at the time, Sybil being one of them. I'm sorry to the people who were murdered by this man and their families, Dwuan Cox felt like a mere footnote in the documentary, you could argue that Billy wasn't officially convicted of their murders but lets be real here, there was plenty of obvious indicators and witnesses who strongly feel Billy was behind their deaths/disappearance. What did I learn from this documentary? That Billy pulled the wool over countless people's eyes and with ease, he spent his life using everyone around him for his own personal gain, that he was considered more important than the victims, that Hollywood continues to be one of the shadiest places on earth and his family particularly his sister was his biggest enabler.
Honestly there is no telling whether or not the victims are still even alive or whether or not the victims have been asked if they would be in this documentary and what their answer was so don’t just go off making assumptions
Even if he was making all this up this documentary is to shed some light on a lot of different things and how about you go ahead and make your own video about the victims of this crime then. This documentary isn’t about that and this isn’t the first documentary that is about people who commit crimes and it doesnt talk much about the victims this documentary is shed light on something different. You do realize that some people can be sued for talking about the victims and giving victims names and information…. Just saying maybe that’s why they didn’t go into detail on them.
@@Donnydarko9912 I always find it amusing how aggressive people are towards others in comment sections, you seem to have taken my personal opinion of Billy Milligan and this netflix documentary personally as if my words have insulted you somehow. My opinion remains the same and was a broader look at not just the documentary but the reality of what transpired back then. I'm well aware of obtaining the rights and former agreements to personal information being shared in documentaries, me pointing out that back then and now the victims have been overlooked by the law and the public, which furthermore means the crime of rape and trauma have been overlooked because they Billy's noterietay and stardom outshone them. You mention the documentary's intentions to shed light, maybe... but i'd wager the producers and directors intentions is to make entertainment and money by tapping into what people love...serial killers, i include myself in the same target audience. All documentaries have a certain amount of bias that is apparent in the final edit and indeed exactly how it is edited. It's was intentional that the group of psychiatrists who are far more informed and qualified than either of us to speak on what and who Billy was were kept out of the documentary until the very end where there was a brief few minutes of them explaining that Billy was a master manipulator and psychopath and nothing more. I don't know if by shed light you also meant DID but personally i learnt nothing about the mental health disorder watching this as i believe he never had it. I have however learnt about it from other documentaries that interview people with DID. My original comment wasn't me saying the documentary itself was outright shit it was an honest critic of how Billy in real life and the documentary continues to be looked at as more than he actually he is. No one was interviewed from Billy's childhood who wasn't family or a friend that had differing opinions or experiences, that wasn't an accident it's intentional. It maintains the narrative that Billy was a victim in a variety of ways and when you only hear from his family its undeniably biased.
@@kellymarieapplebee when I wrote my comment I did not finish the whole thing. He definitely was faking it and was very calculated. I do recall a couple times where they did bring up how the victims were forgotten about because of all this multiple personalities stunt. And I do recall a couple people not believing it to be real. I belive in the end they showed the true monster he was because it was a roller coaster ride of feeling for the guy, not sure, to he definitely was lying and putting on a show the whole time. I don’t think the documentary stuck up for him it was obviously about him. Again this isn’t the first time a documentary on a killer didn’t talk about the victim or victims or brings them up a couple times. I work for a law firm and there are legal issues when you do that. You can’t just freely talk about someone to the world without consent and more. Even family can sue.
@@Donnydarko9912 I think for the most part we're clearly in agreement, i think perhaps you've misunderstood what i'm trying to say which over the internet and not face to face is easy enough to do. It's really not about the victims names and personal identities being exposed, in film making and editing it really is easier than you think to display authentic and genuine respect and consideration to victims without releasing their identities or specific details of the crime. I agree with you completely when you say the documentary had a different agenda, whilst i don't think it was about shedding light as it was basic gory entertainment, it doing so it only highlights how much injustice the victims suffered with the fact they never got justice in the first place but had to figure out how to move through life whilst they watch the man who caused them the most harm in life become a celebrity. I'm merely pointing out the facts of what transpired, this documentary is a part of the hype, his hype whether it intended to be or not but i strongly suspect it was. I'll finish by saying its a relief to hear other people like yourself agree on Billy's true state of mind as you only have to have a quick scroll through comment sections to see how many people truly believe in Billy's acting and manipulation, he was a cunning and intelligent man but an evil bastard all the same. I'm not judging people that believe his personal claims, i myself have admitted before after watching Ed Kemper's interviews that out of all the serial killer/psychopath footage i've watched over the years, Ed Kemper has been the one person that i believe could of completely manipulated me and convinced in certain ways.
I'm thinking Mr. Glass has an idea of how to get him free. That trilogy was great!
This guy deserves an Oscar he fooled all those DUMMY DOCTORS lmfao multiple personalities 😂 I'm not a doctor and I can tell he's acting
You’ll be surprised to learn that he wasn’t
Please be kind and reflect well and accurately on the DID (dissociative identity disorder) community!
If they demonise DID istg
Wow, can't wait 💯😍🙏
Dr. Willis C Driscoll, who diagnosed Billy as schizophrenic, left his office one day at lunch time and never returned. His sister called the police in North Carolina explaining that Dr. Driscoll was living with his mother and would not let her speak with her mother. The police went to home and found Dr. Driscoll's 96 year old mother dead on her bedroom floor with trash surrounding her body. Dr Driscoll had place bath towels under the bedroom door to lessen the odor.
We want mind hunter season 3 !!
I would say the truth always lies somewhere in the middle…… least this presents both sides…. And how some people might had been nudging the truth for their own personal gain….
This guy really fulled the system, I ask myself how judges, authorities, psychologists are so damn stupid to fall for this BS.
I'm sure you mean "fooling" the system. lol
I know a few people that have DID and this series DOES NOT tell the reality of it. Not all killers have DID, andd he didn't become a criminal because of DID. He is acriminal who happens to have DID....
This series proves ,the psychiatry profession doesn't know, wtf they're talking about.
Another fantastic documentary that helps explain extreme violent behavior and serial killers are crazy, not insane. Many have multiple personalities.
The documentary is actually called
Crazy Not Insane.
Ted Bundy is one they show thru his lifetime he had different personas including his violent grandfather Sam, was one of his alters. He even signed letters Sam to his girlfriend
You can believe he really does have multiple personalities AND STILL believe he should go to prison.
Why wouldn't he?
Disorder is never the excuse for this kind of horrific act.
It was someone in him who decided to do all that.
That all matters!
He vaguely resembles Richard Dreyfuss when he was younger.
I've been waiting for a biopic adaptation film based on this case since I had read the book. They even said Leonardo diCaprio was casted as the lead role at some point.
@UltraOnaStar please explain why this documentary would hurt DID/OSDD community instead of, maybe, opening people's mind and giving them new knowledge about DID/OSDD?
Here after watching the crowded room
netflix really said lets stigmatize an already misunderstood community
looks good. now bring mindhunter back.
I know a few people that have DID and this series DOES NOT tell the reality of it. Not all killers have DID, andd he didn't become a criminal because of DID. He is acriminal who happens to have DID....