A short drive on the old ROW (Right of Way) from Sixteen Mile Creek milepost 272 to Tunnel #9 and then back to the crossing of the old NP, now MRL at Lombard, MT.
I was a kid in Milwaukee in 77. I remember all the locos sitting in the yard after they went bankrupt.. The Miller valley is totally different now. You wouldn't even know once upon a time a large rr yard even existed there. pretty sad. The Stadium is there still Miller Park. But all the buildings, round house trackage, all gone. We still got the Amtrak station. Still looks like 1970 too. Harley built their museum in the valley. It was pretty cool to sit an watch trains. You could sit on the 26st 35 st viaduct and look into the valley and see the whole days worth of operation going on. lots. Of action. Pretty cool for a little guy.We road our bikes on the Trail of the Hiawatha in Idaho. It's well worth doing if you love the Milw. road. I think that is the most scenic part of the line. You can't drive it in a car though . only bikes.
I Lived there in the 50's and the 60's,my Father was a section foreman at the time ,I have been back there frequently, It was a robust place at one time . When I lived there ,us and one other family lived-in the Section houses, there was a depot and a school.
Great to see this aspect of the former CMStP&P RR. I grew up in 50s riding the eastern ends, which remain in operation for suburban Chicago commuter rail. From central California to Chicago, the mileage is about the distance between Paris, France to Moscow, Russia. My Grandpa lost part of 2 fingers on freight couplers in early 1900s. Dad gave 40+ years railroading. I've got the memories. Thanks for preserving them out West too.
Another good example of our miss-judgements and our inward desires for permanence. A railroad is more than rails and trains. Its supposed to be permanent. As we go thru life, we seek these things we believe will always be there. Of course they won't but the illusion of permanence is what we seek, the reality we will never find. All things end and we are left with only memories. That is, in my opinion, the reason we feel so bad at these passings, the Milwaukee Road is gone and so is a part of the part of lives we associated with it. I was raised by the old C&EI tracks in Chicago and sometimes when I close my eyes I can still here those late night trains on a hot summer night heading to the Steel Plants in Gary, Indiana. The Plants are pretty much gone too. Nothing lasts forever, enjoy it while it is here.
Those of us east of the Mississippi had the O&W and the Rutland. You guys had the MILW and the Rock Island. The late 20th century will be remembered not for what it built, but for what it wasted. Infrastructure, jobs, and lives. All could have been saved for pennies on the dollar. A failure to act that generations to come will pay for.
I still pray Tennessee Pass will be reopened someday to through trains. I can't imagine the Moffat line west out of Denver handling any increased traffic and the Wyoming Overland route must be at capacity. Maybe that's a reason UP hasn't officially abandoned the line and the rails are still there.
Amazing video! My father and grandfather tore up the Milwaukee line from Spokane, WA to the state line back in the early 80s. I wish it was still a railroad so i could have seen it!
Here's what happened to the bridge. Sprint was burying the Fiber-Optic along the ROW, they used that train with the machine that creates the trench with that big steel foot that hangs over the side of the train. This was in the late 80's. The crew was shoving back under the bridge, the foot was not in the digging position but raised up to high. As the train went under the Milw. bridge, the foot pushed under the bridge and lifted the bridge up and off the pedestals.
The hogger saw this and plugged the train but the bridge had fallen down on the flatcar and crushed a worker. The momentum of the train kept the movement going for a little while longer, the bridge stayed wedged between the piers and on top of the flatcar, the flatcar slid under the bridge. You can get some idea of what happened to the worker who was crushed under the bridge. I worked with the hog-head that was running the engine on this train.
Just what we were able to see my friend, never had any issues, wish we could have gone farther if it wasn't for that fill blocking the tunnel portal on the other end.
Thank you very much for posting this excellent video. The song selection makes for a powerful and poignant soundtrack. I hope to travel to this area someday.
that place is beautiful, i wish they could make that into a tourist railroad with original MR equiptment,or units painted as the Milwaukee Road, and maybe have MR 261 visit every now and then.
My understanding was that portion was removed to prevent tresspassing, infact I'm told the week after it was done, someone was killed from a fall by trying to ciimb the bridge. Now I don't know what year for sure this was done, I'm assuming right after the MILW was abandoned, or maybe sometime in the late 80's, but clearance issues seems logical too. Thanks for the remarks, more videos to come, I shot 3hrs worth on a week long trip just this past Oct.
Sad to see an abandoned railroad like this,closed as a result of management greed. Hope it gets reopened one day,and perhaps used as a light rail metro system which is proving popular in parts of America. The same thing happens here in the UK back in the late 1950s and 1960s,when a Dr.Richard Beecham wrote his report on the future of U.K. railways,he suggested to axe those lines which weren't making a profit. As a result a number of railway lines and stations were closed,and he said people were better of using cars. Because of his decision,we now have traffic congestion on our roads which is getting worse when they could have back then invested money to modernise the rail network.
Light rail is only best around the cities and the old Milwaukee Road wasn't designed as one. Perhaps, the old right of way can be reused as part of a high speed rail route between Chicago and Seattle
sad to see all that's left of this once great railroad. my grandfather was a track laborer for a few years on the millwaukee in Montana used to see the awesome passenger trains go though those small towns in Montana at high speed
Your welcome, did you happen to check out my older material like the Caltrain caboose ride? Taken back when I was a brakeman, I also have material from the cab from when I was engineer. I wish I could find my material from the late 80's and early 90's.
Scene of the action packed drama Danger Lights. Lombard featured in the movie. 1930 a very different era. Steam powered locomotive on that very line. Sixteen mile canyon the most scenic passenger train trip in America. The Chicago, Milwaukee, and Puget Sound R.R. LOMBARD MONTANA. Western terminus for transfer to Northern Pacific R.R. Henry Villard.
Well done! Was the bridge at Lombard scrapped on the east end to prevent crossing it, or did it collapse by itself???? Or, another alternative, did BNSF / MRL clear that end off for clearance for their trains??? Whatever, looks like a fun explore trip and a great video!
Very, Very sad, It's a shame that so many railroads fell because of the goverment, and the hard times of the late 70's and early 80's. We need the railroads now more than ever and so many are gone.
I hear the old timers always say that the old Milwaukee Railway was the best laid out Railway in the country it's just that their timing was wrong you can still see many parts of it as you go over Snoqualmie Pass in Washington State thanks for sharing this video nicely done
@@donnygillihan8768- First, abandoning their perfectly good electrification just before the 1973 Arab oil embargo. Second, there were too many railroads in that area. Third, the MILW didn't serve too many major cities west of Minneapolis.
it was the last transcontinental built...could not compete with the great northern and northern Pacific....and there were too many competitors to its Midwest lines. The main line from Chicago to Okay I went through no major cities, especially compared with the C&NW. There were six railroads covering that route and not enough business for all of them. That said, it is sad that so much of the railroad was abandoned
If you don't count the Canadian Northern and Grand Trunk Pacific and the Western Pacific. One of the biggest problems Milwaukee had was the lack of interchanges with the NP and GN, especially in Washington--GN's Hill got the ICC to prohibit a lot of them. Another was the opening of the Panama Canal a few years later as well as WW1, where most of the goods went from the Midwest to the east, not west. Many feel the MILW shouldn't have been built, but there was a lot of $$ interplay between with Montana Power, Senator Wm Clark (who blt the LA&SL and Anaconda Mining in Butte), and William Rockefeller, who financed a lot of the line. He was John D's older and dumber brother and was told to go out and spend money anyway he could. Most of his investments went sour.
There were a lot of lines that the Milwaukee Road could do without especially Chicago to Omaha. There were at least six other competitors in this corridor including the more powerful Burlington and Illinois Central not to mention the North Western.
@jaseverson If the gate isn't locked, just ensure you open and close it behind you, do your thing and be mindful the property if your going to check it out, that's all we did, no one was around to question us and countless others have done the same.
Found this video because I was looking for videos of the Twin Cities Hiawatha. (I'm trying to determine the correct locomotive for my model train.) Living in one of the most densely populated countries on earth, there are many reasons why a railway can fail. Aside from what happened at the Milwaukee Road, long-distance travel in the USA is largely done by aeroplane these days, because it just takes too long by train. And seeing how bendy this track was, the Hiawatha can't have been going very fast here. Here in Europe, long distance by train only works if the distance is not too long (let's say, London to Paris) and if you can travel at high speed, so around 190 to 200 mph. Overnight sleepers suffer, or have disappeared altogether. And it's much more crowded here. So even if the management hadn't run the company into the ground, it's doubtful it would be operating these days, except perhaps for freight. Having said all that, it's still a sad sight indeed.
I think of all the hard work of so many to put all of these lines in place, the bridges and tunnels, to be used for such a short amount of time in history. I think of all the people that may have moved westward back in the day, the way of travel was by the railroad. Funny how history repeats itself as now the government is putting up more and more of them for lightrail.
After watching this clip a second time tonight, I really can't help but wonder if you might know something about the film "Danger Lights". (RKO Radio Pictures 1930) Anyway, I think I recognized some location scenes from the area where you made this clip. Very enjoyable by the way.
Robert Redford’s 1991 “A River Runs Through It” also used the trestle in Sixteen Mile Canyon for the scene with the car driving on the railroad bridge. The trestle still had rail on it at that point in time.
I HAVE FOLLOWED THE OLD RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY ON GOOGLE EARTH AND WONDERED HOW MUCH OF IT WAS ACCESSIBLE . LOOKS LIKE THEY DONT WANT FOLKS ON IT IN THAT AREA. THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEO.
I hike on a section in western Washington, lots of trestles and tunnels. Very few people ever go in to this area so it's very nice. even find date nails sometimes when I take the time to look for them.
i remember about 1949 or 1950 dad took me on the 16th street viaduct to watch and there were about 10 steam locos going back and forth it seems like yesterday with all that steam rising something a film doesn't show
@YaesuFT736R Okay, kewl because my truck I drive every day has GPS but the rental that trip didn't, so I wouldn't konw where to tell you to begin. Good luck and be safe when you go out there.
I wish I could have seen the Milwaukee. Can't you just imagine 2 Little Joes, with an SD45 passing over Lombard heading toward 16 Mile Canyon? I was born too late...
The bridge was taken down by accident. While putting in fiber optic cable, It was hit by a piece of equipment. The bridge came down killing the equipment operator.
Not yet, but I shall. Subscribed to your channel, so all I need to do is look back. Enjoy your firearms videos as well - that Mosin Nagant sure had a low serial number-I bet they rushed that VKT factory into production during that winter's war with Russia.
Not far to the East, you get on Ted Turner through Deer Park then another land owner to Maudlow. From there it is owned by alot of different land owners.
What a sad video. What a sad ending to the Milwaukee Road and the Olympian Hiawatha.
I was a kid in Milwaukee in 77. I remember all the locos sitting in the yard after they went bankrupt.. The Miller valley is totally different now. You wouldn't even know once upon a time a large rr yard even existed there. pretty sad. The Stadium is there still Miller Park. But all the buildings, round house trackage, all gone. We still got the Amtrak station. Still looks like 1970 too. Harley built their museum in the valley. It was pretty cool to sit an watch trains. You could sit on the 26st 35 st viaduct and look into the valley and see the whole days worth of operation going on. lots. Of action. Pretty cool for a little guy.We road our bikes on the Trail of the Hiawatha in Idaho. It's well worth doing if you love the Milw. road. I think that is the most scenic part of the line. You can't drive it in a car though . only bikes.
Thank you! Touched my heart as I remember the Milwaukee Road into Chicago.
Thanks for the response, much appreciated! Been following the last several of your railfan videos, all nicely done!
I Lived there in the 50's and the 60's,my Father was a section foreman at the time ,I have been back there frequently, It was a robust place at one time . When I lived there ,us and one other family lived-in the Section houses, there was a depot and a school.
Rest In Peace the orange and black
Great to see this aspect of the former CMStP&P RR. I grew up in 50s riding the eastern ends, which remain in operation for suburban Chicago commuter rail.
From central California to Chicago, the mileage is about the distance between Paris, France to Moscow, Russia.
My Grandpa lost part of 2 fingers on freight couplers in early 1900s. Dad gave 40+ years railroading. I've got the memories. Thanks for preserving them out West too.
epic as hell, great song choice to boot. great coverage of the line east of Lombard
I bet on a calm,quiet day,if you close your eyes and listen close........you could still hear the distant steam whistle of an old locomotive......
I like this kind of video. The rocks and trees and mountains could really tell stories. Nice place for hiking also.
Watching this makes homesick for Montana
Another good example of our miss-judgements and our inward desires for permanence. A railroad is more than rails and trains. Its supposed to be permanent. As we go thru life, we seek these things we believe will always be there. Of course they won't but the illusion of permanence is what we seek, the reality we will never find. All things end and we are left with only memories. That is, in my opinion, the reason we feel so bad at these passings, the Milwaukee Road is gone and so is a part of the part of lives we associated with it. I was raised by the old C&EI tracks in Chicago and sometimes when I close my eyes I can still here those late night trains on a hot summer night heading to the Steel Plants in Gary, Indiana. The Plants are pretty much gone too. Nothing lasts forever, enjoy it while it is here.
danbeau Very well put.
Those of us east of the Mississippi had the O&W and the Rutland. You guys had the MILW and the Rock Island. The late 20th century will be remembered not for what it built, but for what it wasted. Infrastructure, jobs, and lives. All could have been saved for pennies on the dollar. A failure to act that generations to come will pay for.
over 70%of the rock island was brought by others
I still pray Tennessee Pass will be reopened someday to through trains. I can't imagine the Moffat line west out of Denver handling any increased traffic and the Wyoming Overland route must be at capacity. Maybe that's a reason UP hasn't officially abandoned the line and the rails are still there.
UP over land in Wy not at full cap Muffat line not at full cap
We can all just imagine the Hiawatha speeding through those hills
Love history like this. Awesome!
Amazing video! My father and grandfather tore up the Milwaukee line from Spokane, WA to the state line back in the early 80s. I wish it was still a railroad so i could have seen it!
Here's what happened to the bridge. Sprint was burying the Fiber-Optic along the ROW, they used that train with the machine that creates the trench with that big steel foot that hangs over the side of the train. This was in the late 80's. The crew was shoving back under the bridge, the foot was not in the digging position but raised up to high. As the train went under the Milw. bridge, the foot pushed under the bridge and lifted the bridge up and off the pedestals.
Bigfoot!
The hogger saw this and plugged the train but the bridge had fallen down on the flatcar and crushed a worker. The momentum of the train kept the movement going for a little while longer, the bridge stayed wedged between the piers and on top of the flatcar, the flatcar slid under the bridge. You can get some idea of what happened to the worker who was crushed under the bridge. I worked with the hog-head that was running the engine on this train.
This is great, usedd to go there when I was a kid growing up in the 1950's
Just what we were able to see my friend, never had any issues, wish we could have gone farther if it wasn't for that fill blocking the tunnel portal on the other end.
Thank you very much for posting this excellent video. The song selection makes for a powerful and poignant soundtrack. I hope to travel to this area someday.
that place is beautiful, i wish they could make that into a tourist railroad with original MR equiptment,or units painted as the Milwaukee Road, and maybe have MR 261 visit every now and then.
My understanding was that portion was removed to prevent tresspassing, infact I'm told the week after it was done, someone was killed from a fall by trying to ciimb the bridge. Now I don't know what year for sure this was done, I'm assuming right after the MILW was abandoned, or maybe sometime in the late 80's, but clearance issues seems logical too. Thanks for the remarks, more videos to come, I shot 3hrs worth on a week long trip just this past Oct.
Sad to see an abandoned railroad like this,closed as a result of management greed. Hope it gets reopened one day,and perhaps used as a light rail metro system which is proving popular in parts of America. The same thing happens here in the UK back in the late 1950s and 1960s,when a Dr.Richard Beecham wrote his report on the future of U.K. railways,he suggested to axe those lines which weren't making a profit. As a result a number of railway lines and stations were closed,and he said people were better of using cars. Because of his decision,we now have traffic congestion on our roads which is getting worse when they could have back then invested money to modernise the rail network.
Light rail is only best around the cities and the old Milwaukee Road wasn't designed as one. Perhaps, the old right of way can be reused as part of a high speed rail route between Chicago and Seattle
Beautiful, makes me want to visit Montana.
great video! it is very sad to see such a great railroad destroyed by mismanagement crooks!
sad to see all that's left of this once great railroad. my grandfather was a track laborer for a few years on the millwaukee in Montana used to see the awesome passenger trains go though those small towns in Montana at high speed
I drove the Milwaukee Road out of Deer Lodge Montana. Got a Glass insulator from that right of way.
Your welcome, did you happen to check out my older material like the Caltrain caboose ride? Taken back when I was a brakeman, I also have material from the cab from when I was engineer. I wish I could find my material from the late 80's and early 90's.
My grandpa worked on the Milwaukee road going around Lacrosse. So hard to believe that is all gone now. He would have gone that route shown
Very nice video, plus the perspective gave one the feel of being in the cab.
Scene of the action packed drama Danger Lights. Lombard featured in the movie. 1930 a very different era.
Steam powered locomotive on that very line.
Sixteen mile canyon the most scenic passenger train trip in America.
The Chicago, Milwaukee, and Puget Sound R.R. LOMBARD MONTANA.
Western terminus for transfer to Northern Pacific R.R. Henry Villard.
Well done! Was the bridge at Lombard scrapped on the east end to prevent crossing it, or did it collapse by itself???? Or, another alternative, did BNSF / MRL clear that end off for clearance for their trains??? Whatever, looks like a fun explore trip and a great video!
They removed the section that crossed over the MRL/NP tracks for safety. Abandoned bridges can collapse at any time.
Very, Very sad, It's a shame that so many railroads fell because of the goverment, and the hard times of the late 70's and early 80's. We need the railroads now more than ever and so many are gone.
all a bit sad really
Very cool. Too bad the long bridge is truncated. Great video and stills. You should bike or moped the mountain division and videotape that too! :)
@TheMadNorsky I understand that the bridge was hit by an MOW crane or something like that while in transit on BN, so the one section was removed...
I hear the old timers always say that the old Milwaukee Railway was the best laid out Railway in the country it's just that their timing was wrong you can still see many parts of it as you go over Snoqualmie Pass in Washington State thanks for sharing this video nicely done
@Go BadgersSo what did really cause the down fall of the Milwaukee Road?
@@donnygillihan8768- First, abandoning their perfectly good electrification just before the 1973 Arab oil embargo. Second, there were too many railroads in that area. Third, the MILW didn't serve too many major cities west of Minneapolis.
Great, poignant excursion. Would love to see more of this line's remnants.
Sure miss seeing Milwaukee Road , they had equipment all around Great Falls .
it was the last transcontinental built...could not compete with the great northern and northern Pacific....and there were too many competitors to its Midwest lines. The main line from Chicago to Okay I went through no major cities, especially compared with the C&NW. There were six railroads covering that route and not enough business for all of them. That said, it is sad that so much of the railroad was abandoned
If you don't count the Canadian Northern and Grand Trunk Pacific and the Western Pacific. One of the biggest problems Milwaukee had was the lack of interchanges with the NP and GN, especially in Washington--GN's Hill got the ICC to prohibit a lot of them. Another was the opening of the Panama Canal a few years later as well as WW1, where most of the goods went from the Midwest to the east, not west.
Many feel the MILW shouldn't have been built, but there was a lot of $$ interplay between with Montana Power, Senator Wm Clark (who blt the LA&SL and Anaconda Mining in Butte), and William Rockefeller, who financed a lot of the line. He was John D's older and dumber brother and was told to go out and spend money anyway he could. Most of his investments went sour.
There were a lot of lines that the Milwaukee Road could do without especially Chicago to Omaha. There were at least six other competitors in this corridor including the more powerful Burlington and Illinois Central not to mention the North Western.
You couldn't have chosen a better song. Just watched a video dated 1952 which highlighted the Olympian Hiawatha coming right down this road bed.
@jaseverson If the gate isn't locked, just ensure you open and close it behind you, do your thing and be mindful the property if your going to check it out, that's all we did, no one was around to question us and countless others have done the same.
Found this video because I was looking for videos of the Twin Cities Hiawatha. (I'm trying to determine the correct locomotive for my model train.) Living in one of the most densely populated countries on earth, there are many reasons why a railway can fail. Aside from what happened at the Milwaukee Road, long-distance travel in the USA is largely done by aeroplane these days, because it just takes too long by train. And seeing how bendy this track was, the Hiawatha can't have been going very fast here.
Here in Europe, long distance by train only works if the distance is not too long (let's say, London to Paris) and if you can travel at high speed, so around 190 to 200 mph. Overnight sleepers suffer, or have disappeared altogether. And it's much more crowded here.
So even if the management hadn't run the company into the ground, it's doubtful it would be operating these days, except perhaps for freight. Having said all that, it's still a sad sight indeed.
Nicely done!
I think of all the hard work of so many to put all of these lines in place, the bridges and tunnels, to be used for such a short amount of time in history. I think of all the people that may have moved westward back in the day, the way of travel was by the railroad. Funny how history repeats itself as now the government is putting up more and more of them for lightrail.
I always hear the current Milwaukee ROW land owners didn't like anybody in there. How did you get in and how much of it were you able to see?
After watching this clip a second time tonight, I really can't help but wonder if you might know something about the film "Danger Lights". (RKO Radio Pictures 1930) Anyway, I think I recognized some location scenes from the area where you made this clip. Very enjoyable by the way.
Robert Redford’s 1991 “A River Runs Through It” also used the trestle in Sixteen Mile Canyon for the scene with the car driving on the railroad bridge. The trestle still had rail on it at that point in time.
How did you keep the camera from shaking so little? Nice job!!!
Thank you. Fitting music.
I HAVE FOLLOWED THE OLD RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY ON GOOGLE EARTH AND WONDERED HOW MUCH OF IT WAS ACCESSIBLE . LOOKS LIKE THEY DONT WANT FOLKS ON IT IN THAT AREA. THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEO.
Fantastic and sad , music fits perfectly in, thnx for the post. Any footage of the original railway in use?
Sure found some electrical footage already :)
There's a movie called "Danger Lights" (1930). It has a lot of MILW footage.
I hike on a section in western Washington, lots of trestles and tunnels. Very few people ever go in to this area so it's very nice. even find date nails sometimes when I take the time to look for them.
i remember about 1949 or 1950 dad took me on the 16th street viaduct to watch and there were about 10 steam locos going back and forth it seems like yesterday with all that steam rising something a film doesn't show
@YaesuFT736R Okay, kewl because my truck I drive every day has GPS but the rental that trip didn't, so I wouldn't konw where to tell you to begin. Good luck and be safe when you go out there.
The bridge was removed when fiber optic cable was being put in. The bridge was hit by a piece of construction equipment and one worker was killed.
Excellent video. Do you know when the tracks were pulled up ?
Great bike trail. Hauntingly beautiful.
I wish I could have seen the Milwaukee. Can't you just imagine 2 Little Joes, with an SD45 passing over Lombard heading toward 16 Mile Canyon? I was born too late...
46.10716 -111.39481 elev. 4024 ft. is the location according to Google Earth.
Google Earth is a Godsend. You can fly over the entire Milwaukee Road mainline to the coast, it's still easily visible.
Good music choice.
If, while there, and began to smell smoke and sensed the faint pounding of locomotive drivers...I'd damn sure jump the hell off that trail !
That looked like a hell of a steep grade or was it just your camera angle?
The bridge was taken down by accident. While putting in fiber optic cable, It was hit by a piece of equipment. The bridge came down killing the equipment operator.
Not yet, but I shall. Subscribed to your channel, so all I need to do is look back. Enjoy your firearms videos as well - that Mosin Nagant sure had a low serial number-I bet they rushed that VKT factory into production during that winter's war with Russia.
Not far to the East, you get on Ted Turner through Deer Park then another land owner to Maudlow. From there it is owned by alot of different land owners.
@jaseverson Can't say, because this is the only area we drove our off road vehicle on.
Excellent job
dude, im speechless.
@captainmorgan757 I used the stabilization feature in the editing software.
Very nice video. Do you remember it with MR trains going along the line? That had to have been just GREAT! Nicely done video indeed.
Thanks, I'd like to do this drive someday. Do you have GPS coordinates for this? How can I find it on Google Earth? Tnx & 73, N9SMJ.
Great video, Frank. I have been up at Lombard but the locked gate prevented further exploration.
seems it would be a nice ride on a mtb
And such beautiful locomotives scrapped:'(
Sad what a waste of a railroad! :(
Could this be a rail line again for steam trains or rail bikes or rail Speer's
Doubt it. Too much money to put back in. Could be an Rails to trail or Off road trail.
@@strobx1- Amtrak should have taken it over to bypass the Class 1 freight railroads.
so your driving where the track used to lay?
@snickpickle thanks, appreciate the info
hey i dont get this but i live in wisconsin
I had been to this,such a surreal place.its a shame some people went in there and tagged the shit out of it
Sad :( That is truly sad.
Or have Amtrak repaint a couple Genesis engines with a Milwaukee Road paint scheme, or just replace them with a couple of original MR E units.
Metra has a heritage unit with the Milwaukee Road livery and logo
Just found it on GA. N9SMJ.
It was gradual, not that steep at all.
At least the east end still survives today.
It aint over till its over. If the next goverment alows the Milwaukee route will be revived.
Train ,,:-) car