I prefer properly - maintained gensets myself. They start right up with no drama, no smoke. Been running on a diesel genset for the past two months since Hurricane Ian hit here. I rather like the gentle purr of it.
@One probably not. I fired up my diesel pickup once at -50 without being plugged in as (duramax) it had arctic oil in it and was parked for 8 hours. It sounded like a gas engine for the first minute before it started to knock, clack, and bang like a cold diesel,
@@c18888 Heck no! If it's that cold, my body isn't going to start either. It's why I live in Florida and put up with hurricanes destroying my home every hundred years.
Picture that generator looks like it hasn't been fired up for a long time not keeping diesel fuel fresh helps. I fired up an older one that set for almost 2 years I recirculated the fuel filtered it and it fired right up no problems.
Those package standby generators shouldn't be cold starting like that. They come equipped with block heaters that are designed to keep the block at operating temperature at all times. Poor maintenance means that the heaters aren't repaired when they fail, resulting in a cold start situation.
100 - 120 Is sufficient for stand-by genset block heaters . They will start just fine as long as the fuel is not gelled from lack of additives . I covered that in every commissioning orientation I ever gave Genset owners/Maintainers . “An Ounce of Prevention is worth a Pound of Cure”
60c? Starts Immediatly? Depends entirely on the application, here are a few examples broken down for ya. In a datacentre and hospitals, they are kept at full operating temperature, 80+C, and they can start and be at full load in under 10 seconds. In non-critical applications where power is needed but there's no need for instant load carry, they are kept at 60c and after starting will fast idle first before bringing the revs up, once the water temp rises to 80c it will go it generates power, this is fast standby and power will be available within 300 seconds In NONE critical applications, theres no preheating, and the engine will be programmed with a fast idle perform a pre-set warmup profile, in some cases they have additional heaters to speed this up, but they can take up 600 seconds for load carry. For us in the data center, it's all about instant load carry, generators are kept at full operating temperature, and all the water and oil are electrically pumped even after the start, so the generators can start, and just scream for the redline, it often takes longer to achieve a frequency sync than it does for the generator to start and be ready. It's well and good saying OH just preheat it, but that is a very very very expensive proposition, the heaters are in the TENS OF KILOWATTS range, and the whole thing is made of metal put in a basement that's freezing cold and sapping away heat constantly, last time i looked at our genset costs, pre-heating bills were in the £100,000 a year range
У нас две дизель генераторные установки зимой всегда на электроподогреве. В случае отключения основной и резервной подстанции двигатель теплый и прекрасно заводится в любой мороз. Имеется как отопление помещения в котором стоит ДГУ, так и подогреватель охлаждающей жидкости двигателя. Системы подогрева дублируют друг друга в случае выхода из строя одной из них.
Agree, but I think some of these clips were possibly shot in regions of depression where constant maintenance would over tax their finances. Basically, the gen sets are neglected simply due to the lack of money? A block heater would be a great help with all these cold weather units, but to keep the engine "warm" 24/7 just incase the lights go out is not a cheap hobby.
Where the guy is seen spraying what I believe to be Ether starting spray into the intake, that scares me. I remember we were taught to use starter spray on a diesel engine (Crown School bus with 6 Cylinder Cummins) very sparingly as it could cause the engine to blow up.
All of these videos are unsafe and damage to equipment occur when unheated engines with a full throttle position for generator operation. Standby operation for a diesel require a full time block heater to heat the engine
Most generators not saying all of them but most commerical or diesel engines have a block heater running at all times and some also delay the start for the glowplugs to work
Even with jacket water heater which will keep temperature of the coolant at least 45°C , in extreme cold situations like these, the engine will take a longer time to run
Do you idiots realize that these diesel generators in a lot of remote places are not standby! They are primary electrical service. Therefore, if one breaks down and you do not have the parts to fix it until the next two days, explain to me, how block heaters are going to help? You’re proving my point again. Keep posting and show your ignorance.
@@andreivorobei8429 Ооо, кто из нас еще... Думай о своем будущем и месте, где живешь. Не ну посмотрите, латентный «кайфует» от вида мощного дизеля и ему видится эстетика, в виде фаллических образов дымящей выхлопной трубы, и он не такой, они кругом, но только не он... У меня плохая новость для вас, значится ты центральный.
Is normal turbodiesel engines have low compression ratio.(15:1 or less standard diesel engines have more compresión ratio as 17:1 or bigger. And of course the start Is better with less smoke.
@@Steve1766 maybe when battery technology is way better then it is now and solar panals are more efficent i think they are only what 30% efficent in converteing the sun i cant remeber honastly i just know it wasent great becuase they only capture mostly the red light waves insted of all of them
It seem some people are assaulting this type of video for what it is, shitty and dirty startup of big and slow engine. If they dont like it then why are they here ?
Existe un dia que en muchos paises se ace esto .. Es el dua que cierran todas las centrales electricas o casi todas por falta de insumos y trabajadores!! y miles de generadores se colo aran en marcha para tener electricidad unas horas mas .. Pero después sin combustible ......se acabo ...!!
There is no real excuse for all this drama. More maintenance is required or more knowledge of how diesel engine starting systems work. More heat fuel at the right time and enough of it. All this white smoke suggests lack of fuel probably caused by it running back. Hanging on the key is a lazy way of bleeding priming the system. Plus, a snif of either at the appropriate time would assist the engine to start.
So many comments on block heaters. 😂. You know block heaters run on electricity. The generator provides electricity. So if they could power the bock heater. The generator is probably not needed. Maybe they could power a block heater from their Tesla batteries. Then use the generator to charge to Tesla. Friends helping friends.
Those people actually know how emergency generators work. You're the one who need to think it through. The block/coolant/oil heater runs and keeps the engine warm continuously. When the power fails, the generator starts immediately. What do you think is going to happen, the engine suddenly goes from ~100 F to 0 in the 1/2 second it takes to begin starting?
I prefer properly - maintained gensets myself. They start right up with no drama, no smoke. Been running on a diesel genset for the past two months since Hurricane Ian hit here. I rather like the gentle purr of it.
the majority of these generator engines do not have glow plugs or a grid or block heater installed, thats why they start like crap in the winter
Have you ever started a cold engine at -50’?
IT’s dropped down to -25’F I’m in Canada.
@One probably not. I fired up my diesel pickup once at -50 without being plugged in as (duramax) it had arctic oil in it and was parked for 8 hours. It sounded like a gas engine for the first minute before it started to knock, clack, and bang like a cold diesel,
@@c18888 Heck no! If it's that cold, my body isn't going to start either. It's why I live in Florida and put up with hurricanes destroying my home every hundred years.
Holy moley the starting fluid the third one took to get going, she is an ether adict and probably needs an overhaul.
Starting fluid is a good way to break the piston rings in the Piston Ring grooves in the Pistons.
good way to ether lock an engine
Always curious how the ether gets past the filter.....
Yeah lucky he didn’t lock it up I have done that before on are 4840 and it the pits
Yes tierd engine needs overhaul.
White smoke at start up...old model genset...but the patient is the key on how to handle like this situation.....salute to you bro....
Do you like these GENERATOR STARTS ?
Love em, it's gotta really annoy the woke ecomentalists who'll be charging their Tesla using these because the power grid can't take it 🤣
Oh yeah I just love the sound of those engines purring it's so relaxing
Yes😊
Yes
You bet💯😆
Block heaters are our friends.
Block and oil pan heaters work wonders.
1:00 my favorite sound
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Już widzę łzy wzruszenia Grety T.🤝🤝🤝💪💪💪😁😁😁💨💨💨💨
Now i understand how the cloud are made. Thank you.
Would love to smell all these smokes
First thought of mine too lol
Have always loved the sound of a starting diesel! ❤
2:41
Pigeons: "GAS! GAS! GAS!"
Genset: "I'm gonna steppin' the gas tonight~"
Pigeons: "I'll fly and be your lover"
At 0:53 there’s a smoke ring
I like how the first one has plumbing pipe for exhaust.
Now I also want a diesel generator just for fun
😂👍
Les bons vieux diesel 👍👍👍👍👍👍
oui
A lot of these been neglected for a while. ☹
They are very cool plus they generate power for homes and businesses
Block heaters work wonders !!!
Picture that generator looks like it hasn't been fired up for a long time not keeping diesel fuel fresh helps. I fired up an older one that set for almost 2 years I recirculated the fuel filtered it and it fired right up no problems.
I can smell the first one from here
Those package standby generators shouldn't be cold starting like that. They come equipped with block heaters that are designed to keep the block at operating temperature at all times. Poor maintenance means that the heaters aren't repaired when they fail, resulting in a cold start situation.
100 - 120 Is sufficient for stand-by genset block heaters . They will start just fine as long as the fuel is not gelled from lack of additives .
I covered that in every commissioning orientation I ever gave Genset owners/Maintainers .
“An Ounce of Prevention is worth a Pound of Cure”
I agree. It is hard on an engine to start it cold like that. It would have been desirable to get the block heater working.
More than cold start those white clouds look like poorly made air bleeding after maintenance.
Each starting sound is different and unique
It's like we start our diesel cars and start revving
Wow it's beautiful
An Diesel generator this size is normally preheated to at least 60°C and starts immediately
60c? Starts Immediatly?
Depends entirely on the application, here are a few examples broken down for ya.
In a datacentre and hospitals, they are kept at full operating temperature, 80+C, and they can start and be at full load in under 10 seconds.
In non-critical applications where power is needed but there's no need for instant load carry, they are kept at 60c and after starting will fast idle first before bringing the revs up, once the water temp rises to 80c it will go it generates power, this is fast standby and power will be available within 300 seconds
In NONE critical applications, theres no preheating, and the engine will be programmed with a fast idle perform a pre-set warmup profile, in some cases they have additional heaters to speed this up, but they can take up 600 seconds for load carry.
For us in the data center, it's all about instant load carry, generators are kept at full operating temperature, and all the water and oil are electrically pumped even after the start, so the generators can start, and just scream for the redline, it often takes longer to achieve a frequency sync than it does for the generator to start and be ready.
It's well and good saying OH just preheat it, but that is a very very very expensive proposition, the heaters are in the TENS OF KILOWATTS range, and the whole thing is made of metal put in a basement that's freezing cold and sapping away heat constantly, last time i looked at our genset costs, pre-heating bills were in the £100,000 a year range
this is what happens if you don't have resistance preheaters 😉
Glow plug
Webasto👌
Grid heater
Hard on the starter fluid !!
I like that guy, Whoa she don’t like that. 😂😂😂
У нас две дизель генераторные установки зимой всегда на электроподогреве. В случае отключения основной и резервной подстанции двигатель теплый и прекрасно заводится в любой мороз. Имеется как отопление помещения в котором стоит ДГУ, так и подогреватель охлаждающей жидкости двигателя. Системы подогрева дублируют друг друга в случае выхода из строя одной из них.
Te generator was blowing smoke rings 😂
first video: very good exhaust 🤣🤣
Yesss Diesel
Th second generating is just vaping 🗿
Like an average car in Szombathely ( hungary) 🤣🤣
My favourite sound as well as smell too.... Sniff sniff sniff...
من أجمل الفيديوهات الأكثر بحثا ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Where’s the Hamiltonville farm boys? They will bring along about two and a half cases of ether and get ‘em going for ya!
damn sound like same as i starting my laptop
Like this.
That green one is a complete pos unit if he has to spray a half a can of ether into it to get it to fire
Agree, but I think some of these clips were possibly shot in regions of depression where constant maintenance would over tax their finances. Basically, the gen sets are neglected simply due to the lack of money? A block heater would be a great help with all these cold weather units, but to keep the engine "warm" 24/7 just incase the lights go out is not a cheap hobby.
Where the guy is seen spraying what I believe to be Ether starting spray into the intake, that scares me. I remember we were taught to use starter spray on a diesel engine (Crown School bus with 6 Cylinder Cummins) very sparingly as it could cause the engine to blow up.
Every clip cut before the engines have settled. Could have been a good video...
OMG MEGA SOUND HUGE GENERATOR NOW 4U!!!! Call video, but kind of a Clickbait title lol
Какой вкусный процесс! 😛😊
All of these videos are unsafe and damage to equipment occur when unheated engines with a full throttle position for generator operation. Standby operation for a diesel require a full time block heater to heat the engine
For many generators, there doesn't seem to be any way to bring the throttle down to idle.
Most generators not saying all of them but most commerical or diesel engines have a block heater running at all times and some also delay the start for the glowplugs to work
Even with jacket water heater which will keep temperature of the coolant at least 45°C , in extreme cold situations like these, the engine will take a longer time to run
Glat they started, now each one can power a Tesla super charger 😆🤣
Every household should have one to charge their EV.
NO SPRAY STARTING FLUID!!!! 🔥 you’ll wreck it! 1:40 get off your lazy butts and prime it!!!
Why?
It destroys the fuel injectors especially if they’re direct injection.
Ether is only for indirect diesel injected engines.
Build a fire under the engine?
Dude, priming doesn’t help. These engines have not lost their prime. You need to study up on the physical attributes of diesel fuel in cold weather.
Do you idiots realize that these diesel generators in a lot of remote places are not standby! They are primary electrical service. Therefore, if one breaks down and you do not have the parts to fix it until the next two days, explain to me, how block heaters are going to help?
You’re proving my point again. Keep posting and show your ignorance.
Welcome to 500N Sub! 🌹❤✋👍
Gas blow torch down inlet saves starter motors and mkes for quicker starting
Great to power some Teslas with.
i think you need a god set of batteries and a strong starter
sweet Power
It should be a bloody crime to hear these start and not listen to them clear out and roar
None of those engines started very well, and most didn't run very well, the smoke is an indicator. Ron W4BIN
They probably start better down in Florida! Up north they get cold soaked and a pain in the butt to start!
better than circuit breakers
Where are you from guys ? :)
i am in Sweden BUT origin Finland!
I'm from Indonesia
I'm Danish but live in Bulgaria.
Germany But I'm Greek born
sure glad my little 33 KW Yanmar doesn't start like this!
Sounds like a Detroit diesel
Hold the glow plug on for long and it will start right up
Красота!!!Кайфую от работы мощного дизеля, эстетика своя есть в этом.!
Об экологии, подумали вы? Наши детки дышат этим!
@@vikingmihinlank969 нах.
@@vikingmihinlank969 передастам как ты здесь нечего делать
@@andreivorobei8429 Ооо, кто из нас еще... Думай о своем будущем и месте, где живешь. Не ну посмотрите, латентный «кайфует» от вида мощного дизеля и ему видится эстетика, в виде фаллических образов дымящей выхлопной трубы, и он не такой, они кругом, но только не он... У меня плохая новость для вас, значится ты центральный.
это не мощьные дизели, это дохлые дизели; генераторы в нормальном состоянии так не дымят
Is normal turbodiesel engines have low compression ratio.(15:1 or less standard diesel engines have more compresión ratio as 17:1 or bigger. And of course the start Is better with less smoke.
Động cơ to lắm
Diesel engines are very cold-natured.
Yes
did anybody say "global warming"?
Nesecitan precalentado res para facilitar el arranque
I don't understand why people want to put wear on the starter and starting a cold engine when all they have to do is plug in the block heater
Not every engine has block heater. also, who do you want to heat it with no electricity? Except it has a battery...
@@petruspechar fire and hot water
Гретый тумблер рыдает
Dirty bad diesel
greta
oh booo hooo hooo 😢😢😢😢😢 greta thunberg
lmao gay thuberg
@@Steve1766 hahahahaha
We call these " Ugly" starts.
Then they tell us that the plastic straws are to blame.
First one is a military mep003 generator
To move with the times, these generators need to be powered by EV engines.
Do you understand what you just said
😂😂😂 LOL
@@averagedev7768 I think thats there point.. XD
this cannot happen
@@Steve1766 maybe when battery technology is way better then it is now and solar panals are more efficent i think they are only what 30% efficent in converteing the sun i cant remeber honastly i just know it wasent great becuase they only capture mostly the red light waves insted of all of them
I’m thinkin’ y’all need to learn about cooling jacket heaters …..
Yup. Time to charge those EVs
Расход генератора две Греты Тунберг в секунду
EPA is frowny face.
Some of those engines need work.
It seem some people are assaulting this type of video for what it is, shitty and dirty startup of big and slow engine.
If they dont like it then why are they here ?
Auch! These ones are in a very poor state. Maintenance, anyone?
Quite a Few of these Units need a " Tune -Up " . Timing checked .
Timing never changes.
@@Look_What_You_Did . What ?
FUCKING BULLSHIT .
All manner of things CAN affect the Injection Timing of a Diesel .
Even a Strictly Mechanical Unit .
Greta: "How Dare You!"
Existe un dia que en muchos paises se ace esto ..
Es el dua que cierran todas las centrales electricas o casi todas por falta de insumos y trabajadores!!
y miles de generadores se colo aran en marcha para tener electricidad unas horas mas ..
Pero después sin combustible ......se acabo ...!!
greta will be mad
She'd be really angry if she ever realized (or cared) that her Tesla is 100 percent fossil fuel powered
@@grayrabbit2211 yep and to be specific coal powered and pollutes more than my Euro 0 Diesel truck
yep
@@recycleman975 yes right
@@grayrabbit2211 very true
Fire the camera man at 3:43!
You cut off the videos before the engines cleared up.
There is no real excuse for all this drama. More maintenance is required or more knowledge of how diesel engine starting systems work. More heat fuel at the right time and enough of it. All this white smoke suggests lack of fuel probably caused by it running back. Hanging on the key is a lazy way of bleeding priming the system. Plus, a snif of either at the appropriate time would assist the engine to start.
What's the solution to the heavy smoke
Heat.
bordel sa smoke plus que ça fonctionne lol
1:10 RATATATTATATATATATATTAA
Once upon a time there was the ozone layer.
O segundo vídeo, não tiveram dó do motor de arranque.
So many comments on block heaters. 😂. You know block heaters run on electricity. The generator provides electricity. So if they could power the bock heater. The generator is probably not needed. Maybe they could power a block heater from their Tesla batteries. Then use the generator to charge to Tesla. Friends helping friends.
Those people actually know how emergency generators work. You're the one who need to think it through. The block/coolant/oil heater runs and keeps the engine warm continuously. When the power fails, the generator starts immediately. What do you think is going to happen, the engine suddenly goes from ~100 F to 0 in the 1/2 second it takes to begin starting?
why can’t they just use gas like cars do, like use a v8 or smth
Generator with failed block or coollent haters
E tesla muto!
🔝🔝
Obviously they've never heard of Jacket heaters or Glow Plugs. That easy start shit kills engines from the get go. NEVER USE IT.
Engine 💨💨💨💨💨💨exhaust engine💨💨💨💨💨💨 anthoni Surya men pria yes. Sayang 😍💕😍💕😍💕😍💕oke yes benar-benar❤❤❤❤❤❤
voila d,ou vient la pollutions
non
boooooo hooooo hooo hoooo Greta Thunberge
go cry somewhere else