Raiders INSIDER Reports Offense STRUGGLED During OTA Practices
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- Las Vegas Raiders offense apparently struggled according to the athletic, lets talk about what this means.
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You also Sanjit
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I'm near certain Patrick Graham is gonna leave for a head coaching job next year. I'm worried that if/when the defense regresses, is Getsy the guy to take our offense into a SB run before the defense gets super expensive.
The Defense has been together for the most part of 3yrs. Our offense is learning a new system. Our Defense is our stron suit. #1 Defense this year
Great point!!
It’s different defensively tho it always takes time for defenses to grow and even then it doesn’t work out. In this day and age offenses hit the ground running but I saw this coming the day we hired Getsy. AP did a horrible job hiring his offensive staff and that is why will probably go 4-13 to 6-11.
@@favio3930no way, getsy system can’t be worse than mcdummys system u trippin
Justin Fields is terrible. All he can do is stare down one receiver and then take off running or throw an INT. He can't read coverages, he can't diagnose defenses, he can't go through 2 or 3 progressions. It was reported also that he wasn't interested in getting advice from other veteran QBs. Getsy is from the Shanahan/McVay/LaFleur coaching tree. If we can run the ball well and the Oline can pass block then the offense will be fine b/c I'm confident that AOC or Minshew are both smarter than Fields. This is much ado about nothing.
@@S62Uce It’s not worse than McDaniels but it’s not any better. Us Raider fans want to believe that Fields was the problem but nah man Getsy is a terrible coach he’s the same as Hackett ot Paul Guenther these guys cant build a offense on they own they’re only good when theirs a established offense in place with a established offensive minded HC watching over them.
New offense playing a top 5 defense…. In minicamp. McDummy’s offense looked great in camp & pre-season & how was it in the season? Just wait to see what the season brings
I agree. And… the Entire playbook has been installed. They are working from the Entire offensive playbook. Give it is concerning but I’ll give em a break
Offense doesn't practice against starting defense they go against the practice squad genius.
@@jermainemarshall4575 are you calling me a "genius"? If so, I'm taking it as you calling me stupid
For decades I have heard about offenses struggling early. Doesn't mean a thing
Right all those decades of the raiders being a great team. Means nothing
Not worried about offense it's early 🤷
Remember when patraxk mahommes was allegedly throwing picks in preseason practice? Ya....doesn't matter.
Overreacting in June about the offense is crazy
I think you’re underestimating the defense
I'm going to believe what Hondo said.
If the offense isn't running the football during OTAs, the offense becomes predictable.
When everyone knows it's a pass, it's easier for CBS to jump on routes.
This is the best time to take gambles. See what does and doesn't work
Raiders offense is just getting installed. Defense has had years together.
Nothing to be worried about.
I get it, Raiders fans are desperate for any news. We as fans need to relax. They aren't hitting each other yet.
Could it be because our defense is dope right now? Hopefully our defense does that shit to other teams. Could be a good thing 🤷🏼
I do hope that's what it is!!
Great Point!
Raiders4Life!
Let’s also consider the SOURCE of this article
The Athletic - especially Tashan Reed - has been notorious for negative bias in his Raiders Reporting
That quote by fields is just him giving proof he’s NOT INTELLECTUAL ENOUGH TO PLAY THE GAME AT THE PRO LEVEL
Fields sounds frustrated because he couldn't learn and execute the system. Then he has a victim mentality and blames Getsy for not wanting him to play "backyard ball" 🙄
Yup. Plus the Bears organization wanted Coach to turn JF into a drop back QB instead of playing to his strengths.
Justin isn’t starting NFL QB caliber.
He proved it last year when he had all day to read the D and hit a wide open WR but ended up taking a sack or scrambling or missing his target.
😂😂😂facts
B s fields is going to ball out in Pittsburgh. Gesty a bust
Initially, I hated the Getsy hire and only warmed up to it once Adams spoke up in support of him. Hearing that from Reed does worry me a little, but there's time and training camp still left in the first year of this scheme.
Yeah I hated the pick too, and especially since our first option was Kingsbury
You have a an offense that is installing while one of the best defensive coordinators is continuing his defense. I think this is a slight reach but an interesting take, and also because I take into account what Mayer said on media day. He said this offense is simplified. We should take into account how difficult the previous offense was. I don’t think a new implemented offense is going to destroy a top 10 defense and one of the best DCs right away. We should all take a step back and breathe
I agree with your assessment. It's way too early to judge. For all the neophytes, pump the brakes.
Good coaching will always adjust and I dont mean Getsy. If the offense is gridlocked by too much info, I think AP will get Getsy to simplify things.
Offenses usually start out slowly. Also remember that we are in a whole new scheme. Let's see how things develop once we get into training camp.
Only Gona make our Offense better, hope D brings it the same way during season!
They’re not running the ball in otas. Which makes it easy to defend
Come on man. OTAs. New Offense. Not worth discussing.
Agree!! Just wanted to talk about Getsy and what some of the reporters are saying. I do think we'll be okk
Agree 💯. Must be struggling for topics to discuss???
@@SanjitT Getsy definitely has something to prove but WAY too early to judge. Lets see where the offense is at the bye week ☠️
Gotta talk about something? I guess??? Lol.
@@DennisBreunigit's the hardest 1 month span of the year 😂
Sanjit you raise a valid point. One of the criticism of Josh McDaniels offense was that it was too complicated and it hi dered the players performance. Is history repeating itself. Coaches should follow the KISS principle. That makes it easy on coaches and players. What's the point I having an offense that's very complicated and players take forever to learn. By then the coach is replaced and we start all over again. A valuable lesson for AP.
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we're talking about practice
When Getsy was hired by the Raiders but passed on Fields, it really goes to show what and who they're looking for to benefit this team.
Fields is the most overrated QB in the nfl
Love your vids Sanjit! Keep em coming!
There are news channels and then there are ones that deal in gossip. Its getting easier to figure out which is which
The QB Coach, JP Sullivan, covered 3 Bears games (Fields) last season and was very critical of OC in one of those games and indifferent in two. Naturally, I groaned when we took Luke, who was the last available OC.
Makes sense, it takes much longer than OTAs to install an offense, all the while the D is returning all starters and scheme. Thanks for the videos, they are the best out there…Happy Fathers Day to all the dads!
The criticism is valid I'm not going to say drink the kool aid on Getsy and the QB's but there's no pads and we got a really good defense. Building confidence and chemistry is going to take time. I got to say trust the process. The Defense is solid, the front office is solid and the Special Teams is solid. But you got AP, Marvin Lewis and Joe Philbin guiding this ship. We just got to let the pieces come together.
Let's have some common sense guys. I'm not saying Getsy will Work but he and the staff are installing a new system and running against a defense that has continuity. So obviously when u have a new system that both QB's are learning not including every offensive player is learning ur gonna have growing pains the Defense which is very good is gonna make them look like there learning. I'm gonna give this offense the entire off-season to get on track. If we're in week 3 and not progressing as we should then I'll start to worry.
What did shanahan do with trey lance? The defense is in yr 3, with EVERYBODY coming back + some key additions. This is year one for the offense, with new RB, new OL, etc etc. it was to be expected. Not only that, the defense knows what plays the offense are running. They see them everyday .Id be more concerned if the offense outplayed our defense 😂
Do you think that maybe the coaches are trying to figure out the strengths and weaknesses in the players on the O???? Now during the break before camp the coaches can make their adjustments
Always look forward to your vids my man Sanjit
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Happy Day tomorrow Sanjit
Lmao it’s OTAs against the #1 rated defense post AP . Let’s quote Arod today R-E-L-A-X
Bro this is not worth worrying about. Fields is not a top qb. Give it a chance
Your QB ABSOLUTELY MATTERS
No OC is going to make just any QB amazing
COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE💪💪🍻🍺🍻
Well, dang! I was having a nice Saturday, Sanjit. I hope to God you're wrong.
Rrrrraiders 🏈🏴☠️💯🔥
New system against top 5 defense…I think that should have been mentioned…by whoever reported on it…But I guess is long offseason…got to talk about something…GO RAIDERS
I'm not surprised as we hired a bad offensive coordinator and we have a young buck at quarterback and the other guy is mid.
Getzy was pass coordinator on GB when Rodgers had his best statistical season. Adams has faith in him. I’ll go more with new offense playing a top 5 defense.
@@johnheltzen335 Aaron Rodgers in davante Adams can make anybody look good.
Let's hope Getsy proves us all wrong and ends up being good
@@SanjitT Amen 🙏🏻
To be honest it’s not smart to pluck coordinators from losing franchises. Hopefully this works out. Also we have a really good defense so it might be hard to move the ball against these guys.
I appreciate your breakdown of ota and the beginning of 2024 season. Luke was not what I wanted either and Bears offense last year reinforced my suspicion.
as always ty for the Raiders content!
Listening from Y.C. and Live Oak.
Shout-out to you!!!
A.P. said "nobody ever says the offense is way ahead of the defense IN JUNE." So many people believe in Fields he was worth conditional 6th. Love your videos, even though i disagree and think this makes sense they looked off, i still rather have video i disagree, than no Sanjit for the day. :)
Exactly. Fields is another Ohio St bust QB. Stroud is the only one who has ever turned out to be good in the pros. Fields is trash. No one wanted him. The Steelers basically gave up nothing for him.
I forgot where, it may have been Media Day, but AP said his goal is to get an offense playbook up. Then remove things we dont need and to simplify it. I'm paraphrasing but I trust AP will tell Getsy to simplify and really nail down what identity we will play with.
If the first team offense is playing second string, this is a huge problem. That being said, Getsy wouldn’t have been fired if he was on the level of Reid, Shannonhan, McDaniel, McVay.
As a Raider fan that lives in Chicago, I was extremely nervous about the Getsy hiring after watching every game of his OC career. While JF1 was part of the issues for the Bears struggles, so was Luke. His 2nd and 4th quarter play calling was not very good, and at times far too conservative. The offense seemed sloppy too many times as well. I'm hoping the 2024 Raiders don't follow suit.
This is worth reporting. Every year we are going to the Super Bowl and fans get mad half way through the season.
Wasn’t this the criticism of Josh McDaniels? It was too detailed?
This is actually good news and should’ve been expected.
Our offense struggled last season as well 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Sanjit keepin’ it real wearin’ Yuba from Roseville.
So we are now in the era of Micro managing our football teams to the fine line. Man, o man, what social media has done good and bad.
Now that explains why Coach A.P. said "throw out what isn't working"
Don't panic that's why Philbin is there
Justin Fields had his best career year under Luke Getsy in 2022, and that's facts. Justin Fields is trash, and that's facts again. And I don't know where u guys are getting your info, but Aidan O'Connell has looked really good outside of his 2 picks from Bennett and Devshire. He's completing passes he couldn't make last year, has way more power on them, and seeing the defense way better. So I call BS. There's been multiple players to have big plays in camp, including Dylan L., Tucker, Bower,Jakobi,Mayers. The only guy that hasn't shown up like they want him to is Gardner. And I've said ever since we signed him he's a backup, and that's facts again👊🏴☠️
Reports coming out of Steelers camp is that Wilson is winning the starting job by a long shot and that Fields accuracy is bad, Wilson would need a disastrous preseason loss the job. Gets was the Packers passing game coordinator when Adams in both seasons Adams had his highest yards total and highest TD total. We're in good shape with Getsy and he has some nice play designs for 12 personel. He also has better weapons here in LV and a better offensive line.
OTAs are about installation not evaluation.
I have not read a single report for the starting left offensive tackle was on the field at the same time as either of these quarterbacks. That is crucially important and evaluating the entirety of the offense. I just hope that Colton Miller has the talent to justify his role as the starting OLT. If he fails, the offense will fail.
Not only isn’t a solid starting OL in place, but the entire playbook is being thrown all at once at the offense, though we are told that it will be trimmed back to successful plays before the first game.
Defense is instinctive; offense requires a considerable amount of understanding and thought and coordination. Before we jump to conclusions, let’s wait and see what we have when the first game is played.
Played ball my whole life, 99 percent of the time in training camp, the defense always screws up and gives the offense a hard time while they work to get their rhythm and on same page. It's normal. Especially when our defense is already ready to go hunting
The Athletic beat reporters have been salty since the Raiders moved!! It’s not even ducking training camp yet😂
When Gruden implemented the west coast offense with Carr he struggled
Doesnnt matter if its a new scheme none of that bs! Get it together and lets roll! Raidderssss
Can’t expect the offense to succeed the way we want them too right away with that d-line coming at them hard. Specially with Koonce and Wison competition
We will see just how good Getcy is. Let's just hope this dude doesn't make things worse
If you get it... Don't say it.. too many derps watching and can't hold conflicting information in their head.. D is ready, they cookin.. O is being installed not evaluating yet... Also, even people watching sideline aren't in the locker room and classroom, so they don't know what actually is going on. Stop being concerned, note it and and track not negative.. go raiderrrrrs!
Well, I will have to say ......the Bears initially were touting Fields for a huge trade and ended on settling for a CONDITIONAL 6th....something was not right there....the Bears gave up...tried to get a ton more but the league wouldn't bite....that being said.....Getsy makes me nervous as hell not to mention our QB room. I hope and pray for the best, I just am not sold on Getsy being a bonafide OC........."Getsy, 33, spent the past four seasons (2014-17) as an offensive assistant with one of the most storied franchises in the NFL in the Green Bay Packers. He served a two-year stint as the team's offensive quality control (2014-15) before being promoted to wide receivers coach on ..."......he then went on to the Bears as an OC that had a bad output for offense.
Our offense has looked great a lot in the past in preseason shit usually isn't right.
I haven't watched the video ot read the comments yet but if they're not full of people saying things like "no kidding our offense looks bad, if it didn't, we would be in some serious hurt this year. We have a completely new offense being installed across from a 99% returning and improved defense that finished the season number 1 in the league. If this isn't a non story, I don't know what is!
Are we gonna scrimmage anyone during the preseason?
Why aren't people putting the obvious together. #1 defense last half of the year with a DC that has been here going on his 3rd year. Also returning almost 100% of the same players on the starting D.
Going against a new offense with a new OC with no games under their belt. This Athletic reporter is a joke by leaving out this aspect in his analysis. We don't know if Getsy was hampered by the Bears HC too.🤔
Great content Sanjit!
Luke Getsy is no Kyle Shannahan, Getsy was APs 3rd Choice and my BIGGEST concern regarding the Raiders 2024 team is Luke Getsy's ability to properly manage an Offense, and our LT Kolton Miller.
Let's hope for the best, but as a Raider fan since 1967, if we're gonna have issues within the offense my focus is gonna be on Getsy more than AOC or Minshew
Yo Sanjit, you from Yuba City?
Your soooo close to being spot on. Defense= Easily have the Coaching and Players to reach the post season. Offense= Most likely have the Players and doubtful we have the Coaching. AP will be under pressure to fix it. Tre looks like the quickest and fastest WR on our roster. Easy.
Also, the QB is the most mental challenging position on the Field period. Getsy has to be careful and considerate of technique overload of information. Sanj, maybe give a video on seeing ghosts!! What is meant by this for a QB !?
It’s actually not fair to talk about this.
You’re literally not running the ball atp in training. So the defense knows pass is coming every time. Almost every offense in the league is going to be way behind the defense at this point in the year.
Do we forget already how terrible of a mini camp and training camp Brock Purdy had last year?… where did he end up by the end of the season? 🤔
This really is nothing
Bro the o line can’t even block during the OTAs and in interviews with AP and Getsey saying Maxx and the Dline are going balls to the wall not letting up how is he going to get any better when he is getting pressured every play lol. They are installing a new offense and going against a top 5 D .
New offensive system vs a top defense that’s been in the same system for two plus years. The offense struggling this early is a nothing burger.
I wonder if this just shows how good our DEFENSE is. All our defense guys were there at OTA. All our offense guys were not there.
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Installing a new offense. The defense knows that there are not running plays coming at them. I realize that people need things to talk about--especially since there is a month before players get back to practice--but I've seen some of the absolute dumbest comments on the internet regarding this. I think the answer is to keep busy for another month on other things, then get back to football.
If your a real raiders fan you block out all the noise that ong this that stop the hype and let’s be real our offense hasn’t been good for like 2 years now our defense last season was way better then the offense if we don’t put up points it don’t matter how good we are on defense
I Wander how does AP feels about Getsy ? Getsy gotta Get-it together !!
The qb only matters when in a must score situation not 3 points a touchdown
Getsy's offense looked pretty good with Tyson Bagent running it.
One BIG thing I just thought of. This whole Offensive staff is VERY different from bears. We have Joe Philbin in the room to help coach the coaches. We have Rich Scangarello (known as a good play designer and has experience installing.), Edgar Bennet, Scott Turner Thats 5 OCs. SO different from the Bears room. IF something is up - I believe it WILL get corrected and AP won't allow dictators. Also remember two weeks ago this was "easier" than last year everyone was saying.
That's a really really good point. I like the experience with our coaching staff.
Defense is playing a factor. Which is a good thing for the offense. It will only make them better.
Offense plays practices against the practice squad not starters .same for defense they are practicing against bench players.
I agree totally! The OC was a bad hire! It is very easy for us armchair coaches to see when the playcalling is wrong! We could see that with Olsen, Gruden’s OC! When we start losing, I just hope AP takes the reins from Getsy, like he did from Graham,( after which the defense extremely improved) and calls a better, simplified offense!
If they want it they better get it right 🤔🏆
Coordinators have to find a balance, be able to make your calls and adjustments to a point, but you have to eventually let your players do what they do best from their instincts. You cannot micromanage every situation and play like McDaniels did.
We are going to have to rely on our defense , and get a qb next year. We’ll be lucky to average 17 points a game.
The offense is 2 years behind this top 5 defense, this is Gram's 3rd year and Luke Getsy's 1st, that being said...AP will look at offense and will allow this QB room to grow but at the same time kill any plays that just wont work, this offense will evolve during camp.
So the offense struggled. So what? It's so early with their new approach and new offense, that there is no reason to think of panic. The only thing anyone would probably want is to see them get more comfortable with this new offense and scheme.
An offensive coordinator that's installing an offense that is like learning physics in Korean.
What could go wrong.
I'm having deja vu.
Yuba City!!!
Our Defense is really good. It’s going to take some time with the offense. It will make them better going against our ‘D’!!!
I’m surprised coaches aren’t able to adjust the scheme or how it’s taught to the players. Also, these aren’t just players these are world class athletes experts in their position. It shouldn’t be that complicated. If this is true it is very concerning. KEEP IT SIMPLE GETSY!
*isn't their offense the West Coast? And, usually that consist of dinks & dunks with run heavy offense?*
There is no running game in OTAs defense just sits back and waits for the pass and you add a new system to the mix not to mention how good are defense was by the end of the year and how the defense has improved in the offseason. With that being said it would be more concerning if the defense wasn’t dominating.
If our offense ended on a high note last season this wouldn't be concerning. And it was horrible
In these 7 on 7's, are they running the ball? Are they just playing catch and cover? While no Maxx Crosby is coming after the QB, if no RB is keeping safeties honest then the offense is vanilla at best. It's not the 1970's anymore. You can't just wing it. One of Aidan's strong suits was his ability to read defenses. He wasn't always on the same page with the receivers but they were dropping some passes too. The Raiders are also not going to show a tattle tale like Reed everything.