Review of the PRS S2 vs PRS Core guitars

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  • I go over some of the differences I notice between the PRS S2 and PRS Core guitars.
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  • @erickleefeld4883
    @erickleefeld4883 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Good of PRS to finally come out with a line of American guitars that are no-bling, plain woods, etc., but with all the quality of a PRS build.

  • @anthonysclafani3963
    @anthonysclafani3963 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    My fav/main guitar is a PRS satin S2 and it is PERFECT. Best guitar I’ve ever played

    • @Hexspa
      @Hexspa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's so good about the satin? Is it a semi-hollow?

    • @heyou429
      @heyou429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hexspa satin necks are a different finish, they are smoother and less sticky than a gloss neck. Some people think satin looks or feels cheap, while some people love it. It doesn't have anything to do with a body being solid or hollow.

    • @kaveman_realh9224
      @kaveman_realh9224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@heyou429 I just got one in Antique White, pretty much as fresh off the presses as you can think (made late Feb 21). It feels different, even from other “satin” guitars, but not cheap, already love it!

    • @aawenel1437
      @aawenel1437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to say my Tremonte SE is the best playing guitar I have. So, I'm excited to get my new S2 this week!

  • @CD-rt8wj
    @CD-rt8wj 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    really enjoying these videos - you break down everything from the manufacturing process to the secondary used market dynamics very clearly

  • @RollieFingers59
    @RollieFingers59 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cool review Phillip, I've been pondering one of these for some time. Keep up the great work!!

  • @catdumpling
    @catdumpling 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your videos! Just thought I'd point out two things:
    1. Glue: it's not just the opinion of luthiers that glued joints are just as strong as a single piece. All modern wood glues (and even most grades of hide glue) dry stronger than the wood itself. In virtually every test performed over the years, whether by the glue manufacturers or independently, the wood _around_ the joint fails long before the glue does. It's incredibly rare to find a joint where the glue itself failed, and those rare failures are almost always due to "unusual" circumstances (high heat, etc.) In everyday usage, it will never be an issue.
    I'd actually argue that PRS's scarf joint method is slightly _stronger_ than the "one piece" method. This is because, once you carve the tilt into the headstock, you're exposing end grain; this means the entire headstock is grain runout. By gluing on a piece of straight-cut wood, it eliminates that grain runout, which is technically strong. I say "technically", because PRS purposely designed his headstock to be far stronger than what was previously common (ie, Gibson and Epiphone.) I don't think most people would argue that the Gibson headstock is a notorious weak point, and a big part of that has to do with the severe grain runout due to the angle of the headstock. While most people think a scarf joint would be "cheaper", it's actually a stronger joint _as long as it's done properly_ (and not all are.)
    If you're interested (or just really bored ;) ) there are tons of videos on TH-cam showing the strength of modern woodworking glues.
    2. Pots: The vast majority of the "big three" pot brands (Alpha, Bourns and CTS) are all made in Taiwan now, and have been for years. Bourns and CTS did at one point also have factories in Mexico, although I _think_ CTS closed theirs (I could be mistaken about that.) _Very_ few pots are made in the US anymore, regardless of brand. I know you don't like Alpha pots, but in 20 years of repairing guitars, I've actually found them to be the most bulletproof! Of course, each brand tends to have a couple different grades, but the dirt-cheap Bourns are no better than the bottom-level Alphas (in fact, I've accidentally broken or cooked more Bourns pots than any others, and I stopped using them because a lot of them are just fragile.) The "nicer" Alpha pots (such as the brass-sleeved that StewMac carries) are fantastic and great for people who don't want super-loose controls, and they're also pretty common on a _lot_ of amps (even some very expensive boutique ones.) I think Alpha gained a bad rep back in the 80's simply because they weren't as good then and they tended to be installed on awful import guitars; most of the currently made Alphas are great pots, and I've noticed they've started using some of the brass-sleeved ones on the Squier Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe guitars too. If they have one downside it's that they're a _little_ stiffer than others, but that's also why a lot of the amp manufacturers like them (they're still _smooth_, just not as free-spinning.)
    At any rate, I just thought I'd toss that out there. I'm not entirely sure if PRS is actually using US-made pots these days, although I don't think it matters all that much: all of the pot manufacturers are big international companies that have parts made all over the world for them. Each brand has their own super cheap range, and then the nicer stuff, and as long as the controls work properly and feel good to the player, there's no need to go swapping stuff out "just because" anymore...well, with perhaps the exception of those awful sheet metal box toggle switches. Those are still pretty awful! ;)

  • @anyday82
    @anyday82 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for taking the time to do a thorough and informative review!

  • @Potatoast
    @Potatoast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 years later, and I finally bought an S2 Custom 24. It should be here in a couple days. I can't wait to play it.

  • @sonnyrocker
    @sonnyrocker 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review. I bought a solid S2 singlecut about 6 months ago, and loving it.

  • @tonechaser7174
    @tonechaser7174 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A very well done review my man ! I'll tell ya i have an S2 singlecut and played in a show on a ball diamond, and this guitar was the only one that not only didn't go out of tune ( including a fender bass) but didn't warp by the extreme heat in the day and very cool change at night, not to mention the flying lime stone dust through out the whole entire show.
    That being said I think Paul is right by saying their all amazing and well done instruments. I have SE's as well and their great. I have Fenders and Gib's as well but you can tell the pride and workmanship done, really comes into play and you can feel it in your hands.
    I havn't tried much of their amps and love the gibson/marshall sound so i go with the marshall heads, but you can get what you want out of these and they will last. I also applaud PRS for adjusting and making their price points to all players out there instead of just people with deep pockets.
    I find your reviews are legit and spoken honestly and that will keep me coming back for more! Thank you for being honest and true, and love watching your channel. Keep up the good work and awesome and true review. Take care

  • @kyle_wagner_music
    @kyle_wagner_music 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison of these two guitar lines, you made the differences very clear/ Thanks for posting this!

  • @destossel
    @destossel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I trust your reviews as you perform your due diligence and give us more than opinions. After watching this I’m definitely leaning towards a core model in whale blue.

  • @montys8th
    @montys8th 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great video.
    I'd love for you to do a video on your personal guitar collection. Any chance of a tour?

  • @dalepal
    @dalepal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a very good review of the similarities and differences of S2 vs core.

  • @mrax101
    @mrax101 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Phillip. Between this and the "SE" video, you pretty much answered all the questions I would have asked. As a previous owner of three PRSi, (One 88 standard 24, and two ce 24s), I'm going for the core next time. I would like to sere a vid on the Floyd equipped PRSi, and your opinion - which happens to carry a lot of weight with me. Keep up the good work, and thank you!

  • @oldmanlearnsguitar6245
    @oldmanlearnsguitar6245 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The review certainly helped me, Phillip. Thanks.

  • @albertko1
    @albertko1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video definitely helped me decide on getting an S2. I did consider a CE for a hot minute, but overall, super happy with my S2. Especially nowadays with DSP, modeling, profiling, and pickup technology... I feel I don't miss the nicer pickups. I got an upgraded tremolo and block for my s2 and it has amazing sustain comparable to a full core.

  • @robertturner5138
    @robertturner5138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having owned both PRS core and S2 models, I agree concerning the wood selections. I was suprised to see that nice of a top on the S2 you demonstrated.

  • @Tanikaze2
    @Tanikaze2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "most luthiers believe glue joints are as strong as wood joints"
    beyond that, multi-piece necks are stronger generally as well. We all know Gibson SGs and LPs are notoriously bad for breaking at the nut. You glue those back together, they will never break at that spot again. Clean, good cuts instead of just glueing after sanding are an improved version of that in a way. That 3 piece glued and joined neck will be more structurally stable than one solid piece with tips glued on where no force is applied. The strongest necks I've ever seen on any guitars are all bolt on 5-7 piece necks.

    • @Dale_Higgins
      @Dale_Higgins 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DCC92 multi piece in a vertical fashion is indeed a more stable neck. not really stronger against breaks, but certainly more stable against any sort of warping, as all the pieces wouldn't be trying to move in the same way.. but in the way they've pieced these necks together, there's really no justification to call it better.
      I'm not that worried about it either way, but it's certainly not better.

    • @juanfichtl2011
      @juanfichtl2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know someone who had his ES-335 break at the same spot maybe like three times!

    • @eddiejr540
      @eddiejr540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed...people always rag on a “scarf” joint but I have never seen an old charvel or jackson etc with a broken neck...there must be some kinda science to it !!!!!!!

  • @jackhood4448
    @jackhood4448 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for another great video Phil

  • @normcote270
    @normcote270 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another AWESOME video Phil, you're imo. the bottom line on ANYTHING guitar, amp. effects and sound quality!!

  • @MrBobguitar4
    @MrBobguitar4 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was wondering about the S2's. Hope they come out with a pattern thin, then I might grab one. Great review! Thanks Phil!

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Bob Gibson Yes, I would love that as well.

    • @christebo7305
      @christebo7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm actually surprised here. Basic SE have the think neck with exception of 245 and certain signature models. I would guess thin outsells all other patterns? I have slightly shorter fingers but my hand size is average. I tend to gravitate towards thinner but can get along fine with any neck. But we are 5 years on now. What are the sales now? And have they offered thin?
      I heard the Mira was discontinued but have also heard players say the Mira is magical? I'm so confused!
      Now we have the SE Silver Sky and the world just got one notch more complicated.

  • @iamjoemadden
    @iamjoemadden 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. My first ever guitar.. an S2 custom 22 arrives Wednesday. I hope I pick up guitar playing without much trouble. Was hoping I chose a good one to learn on. Your videos helped me choose a PRS. Learned quite a bit.

    • @thekuban
      @thekuban 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is ur playing going?

  • @six_rabbits
    @six_rabbits 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job on this video and the SE video, which cleared up some questions I had about my SE245. Since you like the G&B pickups (me too) try this: split the coils so pull-pots can select parallel or series wiring of either pickup. This really makes the guitar more versatile - 8 combinations. I use the neck PU in parallel most often. And yes, I see some fret wear already but not enough to be a problem. The S2 uses the harder fret wire of the core Paul Reed Smith, right? Thanks!

  • @bulletproofprs
    @bulletproofprs 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was excited for this video, I love my s2 cu 24 (although you are totally right about the washed out tops). Got mine brand new for $1050.00 so really can't complain, but I guess I just found out where they saved their money!

  • @CesarAllGuitar
    @CesarAllGuitar 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review!

  • @budgetguitaristcom
    @budgetguitaristcom 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, Phil! 87 thumbs up and 0 thumbs down as of right now. That's an achievement! Great video, by the way. I enjoy watching your videos - I'm definitely a fan.

  • @30smsuperstrat
    @30smsuperstrat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you update this video with current specs including S2 standards and satins. Since the V12 fiasco I'm having a hard time finding finish specs on some of these models on the PRS website. Thanks love all the info you give.

  • @AJbassist
    @AJbassist 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like ur difference series

  • @SuperVeggieHero
    @SuperVeggieHero 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate the good work of these videos. I am considering getting a semi-hollow S2 singlecut.. How is the balance when standing? I hate guitars that neck dive.

  • @brian_ward_outdoors
    @brian_ward_outdoors 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I have a couple of questions though. I have a 2017 S2 Vela which I bought second hand for the bargain price of £700 (I'm in the UK) and that's the cost of an SE here. My Vela definitely has a one piece neck ( I just checked after watching your video). Have they made any changes since you made this video? I'm guessing that even though the Vela doesn't have the 85-15 s pick-ups that the d-type and strala are from the same company? Thanks for your time.

  • @Lex10999
    @Lex10999 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Thanks... Really appreciate it.

  • @markkozielec2200
    @markkozielec2200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that same exact guitar and I love it. Such a versatile guitar. Eventually, I'll replace the pickups, harness and pots with the American replacements, but it still sounds pretty good as is. Now, I just need a CE-24 and I'll have all the tonal possibilities I need. The top of my S2 is also quite nice. Almost as nice as this one

  • @richardreyes9604
    @richardreyes9604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Always insightful, l believe the S2 line have the#7 pu with alnico 4 mags, they are different from the SE pu. l don't know if it would sound significantly different. But they are advertised as unique to the S2 line. Love all your videos.

  • @chadeagleton3141
    @chadeagleton3141 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your PRS videos. I own 3 PRS guitars and 1 Paul Reed Smith. What do you know about the new SE models that have the Paul Reed Smith signature on them? Did Paul buy a Korean factory to be able to place his signature or is there no difference? I'd also like a care video for the Paul Reed Smith guitars as well as the PRS guitars. i.e. cleaning and the like... Thank you

  • @leemcintyre3943
    @leemcintyre3943 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice and informative! Thanks!

  • @thomashogan1985
    @thomashogan1985 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and info

  • @darrelpennington3489
    @darrelpennington3489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Phillip , Have really enjoyed your channel. Have subscribed for 3 or 4 yrs. I recently acquired a PRS Paul Reed Smith SE Mark Tremonti . Not yet comfortable with the floating tremolo. Do you know of any options for this trem system while keeping the guitar ? I have always played a TOM style . Thanks

  • @TheBowser09
    @TheBowser09 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Very informative video

  • @isaiahmarquez9717
    @isaiahmarquez9717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got a S2 Custom 24. I think it’s an incredible guitar. Perfectly setup from the factory. Playability is fantastic.

  • @cesarguitarra1975
    @cesarguitarra1975 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phill do you think the quality of that S2 neck is better than the SE which is also 3 pieces but going laminated as a long side?

  • @oscarmuhammad4072
    @oscarmuhammad4072 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phil McNight, great review! Love all your work. Just one question are you sure that the S2 uses the same pickups as the SE? I did a side by side comparison in a large music store and they seem like different pickups to me. Am I hearing things?

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Oscar Muhammad They both use G&B pick ups but some S2 models use the same style pick and other use different pick ups. so they should sound close, but be different. I think the only Pick both SE and S2 share are the SE245 pick ups that some of the two models have.

  • @gkward1981
    @gkward1981 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an S2 Standard 24 Satin, and it's the best guitar I've ever owned, throughout the 20 years I've been playing.

  • @wootton900
    @wootton900 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very knowledgeable guy and I've just ordered a s2 standard 22 with birds in gold brand new in U.K. £749 from andertons love the pattern reg neck and I also love these pups much prefer them to the dragon 2s I had I genuinely think this is the best money I have ever spent

  • @gregguzzardi
    @gregguzzardi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    After a long talk with prs , they said pickups are not the same as the se line. Yes they are made by the same company and that is were it ends. He asked me to ask you to call them.Thanks for all the great info and vids. For someone like me this does affect my decision.

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You must of talked to Sean.

    • @gregguzzardi
      @gregguzzardi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, is his info correct? Are the se that good that it is not an issue?Thanks again.

    • @stormyandcold
      @stormyandcold 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have both an SE Custom 24 and a first generation S2 Custom 24. I have to be honest here, the sound is much better on the S2, there's no comparison at all. S2 sound's louder and clearer.

    • @DudeItsClassy
      @DudeItsClassy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      how about the new 85/15 s pickups they use for the s2's now? is it the same as the 2017 se's?

    • @harvickfan82479
      @harvickfan82479 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The new se pick ups are great though

  • @michaelanewman
    @michaelanewman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd really love to get a p22 but will need to sell a few of my organs to do so! Thanks for this video!

  • @brandoncarson3143
    @brandoncarson3143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently bought an S2 that actually looks very similar to the one in this video, and that guitar has become my baby! (I own 12 guitars). Let me give you advice and say that an S2 is certainly a guitar you want! You'll enjoy the quality, tone, and feel. Any complaints, like the back covers sticking out, really don't bother you once you realize how great a guitar it is in comparison to others in the price range or higher. And he's right, that guitar certainly has the best neck and frets I've ever played.

  • @thehoppo
    @thehoppo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers for this Phil, I have an S2 semi hollow custom 22, took cover off the controls and they said made in Korea as opposed to made in China... When I bought it I thought I may swap out the Korean parts, but to be honest I am happy with them (also have a very high end core PRS) The S2 just feels like it wants to work hard like a good work horse..

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ditto, I thought I would gut it and instead like it stock.

  • @AtypicalPaul
    @AtypicalPaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the prs ce bolt on necks over the glue on necks

  • @azcoyote007
    @azcoyote007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound of the pickups on the Paul are WAY better than on the PRS. I mean vastly better. Pretty blown away to hear that in the demo.

  • @spawnman73
    @spawnman73 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phil whats the differance between a S2 24 and the new CE24?

  • @jasonstevens1728
    @jasonstevens1728 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I actually went and bought my 1st real electric guitar after watching this. PRS S2 single cut. If you can believe it, it actually has an even nicer top that that one. Got real lucky I guess. Love the guitar, it feels and sounds great. Ill be keeping this one for sure.

  • @startledfrogmedia4070
    @startledfrogmedia4070 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job on both videos. I'm waiting for NAMM to buy. Torn between the new CE24 now and an S2 satin. I really want the satin neck back but need to have it come under 1500 or so. Again great vids really helped this American hss strat owner who hates his epiphone plus top pro garbage.

    • @45wyatt1
      @45wyatt1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Startled Frog Media I traded my gibson studio deluxe in on an S2 satin finish , I think it was my better decisions , the S2 just feels , sounds and tunes bettet

  • @_viy
    @_viy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it a PRS Santana with stoptail near the window? I wonder are this classic doublecuts well balanced if compared to core body shapes? I mean neck bows down when you stand because of the same horns length.

  • @MarkBadia
    @MarkBadia 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw your video on the CE 24 and it sounded like the CE was a better deal than the Core. Give the price difference is only about $500 between the CE and the S2 would the CE be the right place to start if you wanted to get a PRS?

  • @greghilinski6571
    @greghilinski6571 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good review - pretty straight down the middle.

  • @JTroskaTV
    @JTroskaTV 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info here. I own an SE, this same S2 Semi Hollow, and a Core. I agree with your assessments and, too, believe these are a way for PRS to sell guitars out of tops that don't make the cut for the Core line. Great guitars for people who want USA PRS quality but aren't fussy about curly tops.
    Curious about the pickups, though, because they have the same names as the USA pickups. Are these Korean #7 pickups anything like the USA #7 pickups? I'm guessing not as they seem muddy to me.

    • @christebo7305
      @christebo7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      S designation at end of numbers. The USA in house made are just better. Whatever MOJO they do in Maryland is noticeable.

  • @zwip778
    @zwip778 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for the great review!!
    Just one question, is the Pattern Regular the same thickness or slightly less than a 50's Gibson? I actually have small hands but cannot stand small necks for some reasons. I played a PRS once (a McCarty) and the neck was too thin.
    I'll put some PAF antiquities with new harness if I buy one

    • @jaydean6092
      @jaydean6092 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope I'm not too late answering, but the regular pattern is slightly thinner than the neck on my Gibson lp 50s tribute. However, it is a C, while the Gibson shape is a D, I also like thick necks, and I find that I can go thinner with a C than a D because of the shape. Overall, the regular pattern is a nice chunky neck, thick than medium. Not huge, but certainly not slim. Hope that helps.

    • @zwip778
      @zwip778 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jay Dean thanks a lot! Extremely helpful. Glad to know these necks are not too slim

    • @jaydean6092
      @jaydean6092 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Anna-Clara no problem. They aren't baseball bats, but they are what I would call "chunky". Good luck with your guitar shopping.

  • @lanzkervinmontealegre8341
    @lanzkervinmontealegre8341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please compare the different S2 models, mira vs starla vs vela vs standard vs singlecut vs custom. Pretty please!

  • @lordgraga
    @lordgraga 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Philip, thanks for the great and detailed walkthrough. Question: I have a Custom 24 S2 (I play it on my channel btw), and I have been thinking about upgrading the pickups to US ones. Right now there's a local deal for an American pair of HFS/Vintage Bass $200. Is the difference between the S2 and US version of these pickups big enough to warrant this upgrade? I know I love the pickup type since it has been used to record countless of records that I love, but I don't know about the difference.

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +lordgraga I have been thinking about swapping the picks ups in my S2 since the day I bought it. I also like them a lot and just have a itch to see if they can be improved. The only thing I can tell you is the pick ups in the S2 have a full bass response and sound huge. If you got to the USA pick ups you mentioned you will get more clarity and mids but loose a little of that fullness. So it will not be the same sound, but better now. It will be a very good but different sound.

    • @lordgraga
      @lordgraga 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Phillip McKnight Thanks for the quick reply! I think that I will give it a go. I will notify you if I make a decent comparison video.

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool, I subed to your Channel so I will check it out

    • @lordgraga
      @lordgraga 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought the US pickups, and I'm blown away about how good they sound. A video will be coming up, although not with a very good camera.

  • @ManyGenres1212
    @ManyGenres1212 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I can't decide if it's worth it to get a Core Custom 22 or a S2 Custom 22. This video made me lean towards a Core, but I also want something that I won't feel too bad if I accidentally scratch

  • @scfabrizio
    @scfabrizio 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about S2 vs the new CE24? Is the CE24 worth twice the price? I haven't seen a video on that comparison. Thanks for the great videos!

    • @WCG72
      @WCG72 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      the CE's on average are $500. more than the S2's. CE's = $2,000. and the S2's = $1,400 to $1,500.

  • @markr2879
    @markr2879 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need a trem arm for my s2 standard 24. An SE one will work?

  • @hybro8
    @hybro8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I hate the core line, they look tacky, these S2s are classy

  • @dr.stevenpennym.d.3241
    @dr.stevenpennym.d.3241 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. I'm expecting the satin version today...

  • @jimfromoh8944
    @jimfromoh8944 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went with the SE semi-hollow at half the price. Plus the color combinations weren't available on the S2. I wanted a natural mahogany back/neck and the S2's I look at were all painted.

  • @alfredst.martin6597
    @alfredst.martin6597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my VelaS2 guitar

  • @anthonydina8626
    @anthonydina8626 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since you switched from the Core back to the S2 but mentioned it still sounds like an SE, have you changed the pick ups to match the core setup? If you haven’t, what are your thoughts about doing such a mod?

    • @anthonydina8626
      @anthonydina8626 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, thank you for the review. This was very helpful.

  • @joshgamesful
    @joshgamesful 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the 2017 line they have
    Paul Reed Smith
    SE
    sorta thing

  • @TheBroken180
    @TheBroken180 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the s2 term n pickups are made over seas, but I'm lookin at a Starla which has a bigsby n some kind of special pickups that are unique to the Starla, does anyone know where those are made?

  • @Joshlocklear_media
    @Joshlocklear_media 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally I kinda like the look of the s2 more than the core, never played one but I really want one

    • @sexycheeseburgernameisfort8320
      @sexycheeseburgernameisfort8320 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josh Locklear I like the S2 style as well
      What's special about them is that they're still proud about the S2's, it's still a gorgeous look
      Like a Gretsch penguin and a Gibson SG combined
      Look at the style of the S2 singlecut antique white with the pick guard, it looks amazing, especially when Jon Foreman from switchfoot used the old model Starla with that colour and put the NF3 pickups on it
      (During when they made the Vice Verses album)

    • @6AM_YT
      @6AM_YT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought a S2 Mira in white because I really like the more traditional look (sort of like a Les Paul DC Special) but it has the quality of a PRS. This is the third PRS I've owned (I sold the other two almost immediately) and it's the only one I bonded with right away.

  • @donharrold1375
    @donharrold1375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think the pickups are the same as the SE. The description at the PRS site is different and PRS state that the pickups are built to the same specs (magnets, wire and insulation etc) and constructed identically (no. of turns and testing etc) to the USA #7 pickups. Apparently they had the Korean manufacturer built multiple prototypes which they tested until they were happy that the sound was more or less identical to the USA pickups.

  • @williamanthony5551
    @williamanthony5551 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new PRS SE Custom 24 Limited Edition now says Paul Red Smith on the head stock...Nice looking guitar in cherry sunburst. . On sale at Guitar Center now for $699.00. I am tempted but already have a ..Les Paul , 2 Strats, a Tele and Ibanez oh..and 2 Acoustics...Just what I need ANOTHER GUITAR...

  • @thecentralscrutinizerr
    @thecentralscrutinizerr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, the thing that killed it is the neck. I have small hands and I just can't play thick chunky necks. Hell, I even like the 24.75 scale length necks because the frets are closer together, but I find that maybe a little too close at the 19th through the 24th fret, so the 25 inch scale is what got me interested in the Paul Reed Smith guitars. I'm going to go with the SE because of the thin pattern neck.

  • @rata1983
    @rata1983 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what is the difference between the 10 top and regular paul reed smith, i got a custom 24 with floyd that cost me 2800 but the 10 top would be 3400 or around there. Is it a much better instrument or more detail into something or is it just the wood selection? surprisingly i had to send it back now because it had some defects like finish inperfection like sand paper marks on the neck near the joint with the body, a screw or the tuning peg a little crooked and not screwed all the way in and the lacker chipped a little near the volume knob some other things, strange to see those things in a Paul Reed Smith with all their reputation.. Waiting to see what they tell me when they get it.. i wonder if its because is not a 10 top and didnt go through the same quality checks..

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Roman I did this video when I got my PRS Custom 24 ten top. Hopefully it explains the ten top logic well. When it comes to ten tops I can take them or leave them. Here is the video th-cam.com/video/rAJMOo5Z2XY/w-d-xo.html

    • @rata1983
      @rata1983 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesome! thank you so much!

  • @trevorbaker6491
    @trevorbaker6491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a skinny-ish guy myself and I can say that I like the pattern regular necks more than the pattern thin. As of right now, I like the feel of my PRS S2 Vela more than my CE24 neck...partly because the neck is so close to my Schecter Blackjack S-1's neck.

  • @andrewdenine1685
    @andrewdenine1685 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found this because I bought a pre se245 soapbar from 2013. I wonder if these guitars are like gibson led paul guitars when the neck gets broken off they sound 10x better than new conditioned guitar

  • @Ih8ryce1
    @Ih8ryce1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been a carpenter for years and i can tell you glue joints are way stronger than the wood its self. Also makes the wood more stable.

  • @tjnugent62
    @tjnugent62 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do they have dual truss rods?

  • @nvlddmkm1282
    @nvlddmkm1282 ปีที่แล้ว

    S2 is an interesting concept and really boils down to the player's priority/preference. Seems the divide here is either build quality, or hardware quality - because it's an electric guitar, I would personally prefer upgraded hardware with a build quality of an SE (since SE is still quite good...), rather than the build quality of a core, with the hardware of an SE. Almost $2,000 for SE hardware is a rough pill to swallow for me, but I also get that people would prefer the "made in America" stamp and are willing to upgrade their own components (though some of the PRS pickup sets are ungodly expensive lol). I wonder if any of this has changed in the S2 line since this video was made.

  • @Roll.96
    @Roll.96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the main differences between S2's and CE's?

  • @wesleymorris1
    @wesleymorris1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the difference in the custom 24 and standard 24, I'm going to buy one later this week , just wondered if the extra 400 for the custom is worth it, seems like they have the same hardware but just the mapletop and stain is different

    • @WCG72
      @WCG72 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Standard is all mahogany and the Custom has a maple cap.

  • @AkiraSpectrum
    @AkiraSpectrum 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another point you could have mentioned would be the birds or dots on the S2's are not as ornate as the Core line. Otherwise, thanks for the video!

  • @redcomn
    @redcomn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have qualm about the pot and the pickup in my s2 mira, but heck I'm buying it for mod anyway.

  • @arash123salam
    @arash123salam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    which model is that brown PRS on the right?!

    • @larryh.3173
      @larryh.3173 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like an S2 Mira to me.

  • @cricky6239
    @cricky6239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    now you can get the s2 standard for $200 more than the SE models and for that little of a difference I don’t see why you wouldn’t go to the s2

  • @sceprent
    @sceprent 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loovveeeeeeee my S2.

  • @DrLoveShackIII
    @DrLoveShackIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video saved me $2000. Thanks

  • @anotherstart1
    @anotherstart1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best guitar I’ve ever bought. Tuning was impeccable and the quality destroys Gibson. Sold a 2019 les Paul and American professional Stratocaster. It’s a keeper and zero need to buy another

  • @bradleystroup1457
    @bradleystroup1457 8 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Could you do s2 vs se. that's about my price point and I would be interested in the quality/tone/playability difference

    • @sexycheeseburgernameisfort8320
      @sexycheeseburgernameisfort8320 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Bradley Stroup the S2 line is leaps and bounds better
      Get a s2

    • @warmregards4439
      @warmregards4439 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agreed^

    • @erichancock4618
      @erichancock4618 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same pickups, at least according to this video... If that's the case can't see how the S2 is "leaps and bounds" better in stock format. I will say some of the NEW se guitars are ridiculously priced. But get a used one for three fiddy and what a deal. My two cents.

    • @ericcotter1984
      @ericcotter1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      S2s are miles better than SEs before 2017, the new SEs though are very very impressive, but S2s are a no brainer for 200$ more

    • @marc8828
      @marc8828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erichancock4618 Made in America vs Korea makes a huge difference. Better woods, quality and the S2 has locking tuners.

  • @robertgoldmann1470
    @robertgoldmann1470 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My SE has the Paul Reed Smith script on the headstock. Its the Tremonti.

  • @8cspohn
    @8cspohn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find them to be nice looking guitars, thing is sustain not maybe a focus point by PRS on any of the make or style of guitar seem to be not a part of there build.
    Not that I mean that i don't like that just what i have always noticed there are sustain guitars and then none sustain guitar. Even acoustic guitars are built on this idea, classical guitars less sustain where as steel string acoustics tend to have longer sustain. Classical Flamenco guitars have very short sustain, i often think Fender strats and tele are like style of sustain that is similar to classical guitars. listening to PRS's i often think of them falling between Flamenco and classical some were.

  • @johnnyblevins3846
    @johnnyblevins3846 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Phillip ,great video I have an S2 Paul Reed Smith and love it ,My "Go To " Guitar !! I also have an SE standard in Camo that I upgraded with Duncan 59's.There is a couple of questions I have, as I have the one with the tremolo . What is the difference between the block in the S2 as compared to a Core model? I also see that Paul Reed Smith re-introduced the CE series at a very competitive price point. They look very S2 ish to ME. Is there any way You could do a vid comparing the old CE's vs. the new CE's?-Johnny B!! Wesley Chapel Fl.

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The block on the core is brass. The new CE is in the core line but will have some parts shared with the S2. I will do some reviews in late Jan, February

    • @johnnyblevins3846
      @johnnyblevins3846 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Phillip McKnightCool would love to see CE old vs. New. Please let Me know when You post the vid.-Thank You

  • @joseca7509
    @joseca7509 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice.

  • @boboliver5907
    @boboliver5907 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think about the SE Zach Myers model???

    • @PhillipMcKnight
      @PhillipMcKnight  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      love it, little chunky neck but feels great

    • @boboliver5907
      @boboliver5907 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really like it. Might have to snag one.

    • @boboliver5907
      @boboliver5907 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Bob Oliver I really don't do super thin necks anymore. Ibanez, Jackson etc.

    • @ianalderman9290
      @ianalderman9290 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own and absolutely love my Zach Myers guitar. When it came to pull the trigger on which guitar I was going to buy, it was between the Zach Myers and the S2 Singlecut. Played the same riffs in the same order through a PRS Archon 25 and to me personally, the Zach Myers was it. Not knocking the S2 Singlecut, but comparatively speaking, it was a little too restrained and held back. The Zach Myers did what I wanted, which is heavier rock that leaned toward metal a little better than the S2 Singlecut. I really liked the S2 clean and crunch sounds, as well as coil split tones, but even were I not looking at bang for the buck, I still would've walked out with the Zach Myers. It's only a matter of time before we get the Trampas Green I originally wanted, and before it comes home and gets hot rodded. If I were to get an S2, it'd probably be the Custom 24 or the Custom 22 Semi Hollow, definitely wasn't feeling the Singlecut though.

  • @willkupers
    @willkupers 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good and interesting review. If I find a second hand, for an interesting price. I will buy one, and probably change the electronics, 'couse I'm not really a fan of those Korean pups. Wish you good luck and success.

  • @aaronroosa6385
    @aaronroosa6385 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk if I want a prs S2 custom 24 or a Kiesel cs324 😭💔

  • @GiraffyTaffy
    @GiraffyTaffy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's really strange that the back cavity covers aren't recessed. Even the SEs and many far Eastern guitars recess theirs. I wonder what the reasoning behind it is. Maybe it saves money, but it seems like such a small thing.

  • @nevillegreg1
    @nevillegreg1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a S2 Custom 24, arguably the best sounding, best playing (the rounded over edges are fantastic and no string buzz), has the best coil split, of all the guitars I have, it even sounds quite good through the crappiest of amps. It has it all, well almost all, as for me, the PRS has no soul. I just can't connect with it, I don't get inspired. But it sounds great. Go figure!

  • @LEUNN_
    @LEUNN_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is changing a korean trem system to a USA core model trem system easy?

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's true. Some of the cheaper guitars sound dead. No sympathetic vibration or slight ring at the end. Not even dead in a good way but just flat like old coffee. These definitely seem to have that spark.