1:08:00 - So true. Cycling my first saltwater tank and a local hobbyist was showing me his. While he was tending to something I watched his blue tang lift some birdsnest from one side of the tank bring it all the way over above his clam and dropped it bang in the middle - clam did not like that and tried closing on the new frag.
Love Reef Therapy! As one who struggled with dino for almost a year in my newest display I can say it definitely can be a pest. UV handled the osteoporosis but then had amphidinium's which I probably spend hundreds of dollars on bacteria and pods to try to rid. Eventually just let it run its course and finally is gone.
Tooth brush zip tied to the end of your WC hose is such a classic tool. I’ll just brush down the exposed rock once a month or so and the rock always stays so clean and nice. Takes all the gunk out at the same time. Rocks look great even under full whites, it always had a “fuzz” to it. Great RT you guys could go on with this topic for days, so much to talk about. It would all be killer to listen to I always learn something.
I love this conversation. Thank you guys, you nailed it. Everyone’s tank and style of reefkeeping is different. So specific numbers will be different. But nutrients are not a bad thing corals actually really like them lol. In my experience higher nutrients = less negative issues 🤷🏼♂️….Alkalinity I’ve only had issues under 7 and over 14.5 lol anywhere in the middle I’ve been good.
Love this conversation. I have a 220 with GHA and turf issue. Have 4 tangs (blue, sail, mimic, Scopas) and I was feeding them heavy and they didn't really know they were supposed to eat the algae. I cut food way back and the the tangs are now cleaning house. I can't believe the behavior change. Issue solved. Thanks.
I’m guilty of over feeding…. And wen you mentioned turning your lights down for algae it made me take a real hard look at my tanks and the ones with more algae….. I turned a couple down lol.
Realy interesting session as always. Ans as an forest ecologist who has an reeftank i can say that at least i didn‘t scream internally because of Jakes grassland to old growth forest comparison. This comparison, even tho simplified, is still pretty good, after all succession happens as far as I know in every ecosystem on earth.
Another great episode and topic! On the subject of Lanthanum Chloride I would also add that it will send your dKH into free fall so that is another reason to be cautious of using it
50 sessions of reef therapy which I all have listened while doing tank maintenance 🤣 so, easily more than 50 hours of some sort of tank related stuff while listening to reef therapy
No, you had it correct Mark. Going back to "Liebig's law of the minimum": In a high energy planted tank, you're supplementing the CO2 in order to allow Aquatic Grasses and the other Macrophytes to outcompete the simple algae's. In freshwater (and saltwater) dissolved carbon can be the limiting rate step for photosynthetic organisms due to waters limited ability to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere. So when you're dosing fertilizers (primary macro nutrients, secondary macro nutrients, and micro nutrients), the only bottle neck is the lack of available carbon. When you eliminate that limiting rate, and push it higher than it should go naturally, the plant growth outcompetes algae's. Now back to marine systems: I particularly enjoyed the macro algae discussion. I personally love using macro algae on reverse daylight to consume CO2, consume excess nutrients, outcompete other algae, and raise pH. However, I have yet to not have a batch eventually crash. Eventually, even cheato crashes on me. Though I found Ulva to be my personal favorite, which seems to grow faster than the cheato strains I've had access to, but Ulva seems to crash even faster. And that's with dosing a supplement like "cheato grow". However, even with those challenges I vastly prefer having a sump with some kind of algae chamber. As you said, it allows us to choose the dominant species of algae to deal with
I have a 40 breeder, is there any tang that I could put in a tank that size, if not what are some good herbivores that I could put in. I do currently have a half black angelfish but that’s it. Thanks in advance.
Currently have some algea but the tank is 1 month old after the restart, no coral in yet. I will just add more algea eating animels. Mexicans turbosnail seem to do the job very well.
I put them into my qt every time I cycle fish through. Then after the qt is over I move them to my 400g and 320g displays. They swim around in packs like anthias. I have black, dalmatian and orange ones .
This is a great episode. Have you seen the Ryan's biome cycling series from BRS? What are your thoughts? It seems like it is saying some of the same things that you guys talked about.
Ok what's this "cotton candy algae" you guys mentioned? Haven't heard of that before bit I think I might have this, and I want to look into it. Great conversation as always guys!
Snails are good for cleaning glass and helping with the substrate. I like urchins but I love an army of hermits they are the best imo at getting into the rockwork and keeping the rocks clean. I have a pbt and a tomini and a foxface but with how much I feed they don't eat as much algae as they normally would. But hermits are great and are the primary force to keeping my 20 gallon clean. Idk why they have a bad reputation I know they will eat snails but snails are dumb and most will fall on their backs and die anyways lol
Once a month I turn my tank to milk. Blow sand n rocks with turkey baster and turn it milky white. After it clears omg it's pristine. I never use carbon either.
I'm surprised y'all didn't mention sea hares. I don't think they belong in hobbyists tanks because they are so sensitive but they do a very good job eating algae.
They can or will ink your tank up if stressed. They will eat macro algae,but a majority of the undesirable algae are micro algae,Which they don't eat...
Thank you Jake for your wonderful service you have done for the world. You will be missed very much. One love
This is one I will always come back to.
1:08:00 - So true. Cycling my first saltwater tank and a local hobbyist was showing me his. While he was tending to something I watched his blue tang lift some birdsnest from one side of the tank bring it all the way over above his clam and dropped it bang in the middle - clam did not like that and tried closing on the new frag.
Love Reef Therapy! As one who struggled with dino for almost a year in my newest display I can say it definitely can be a pest. UV handled the osteoporosis but then had amphidinium's which I probably spend hundreds of dollars on bacteria and pods to try to rid. Eventually just let it run its course and finally is gone.
Tooth brush zip tied to the end of your WC hose is such a classic tool. I’ll just brush down the exposed rock once a month or so and the rock always stays so clean and nice. Takes all the gunk out at the same time. Rocks look great even under full whites, it always had a “fuzz” to it. Great RT you guys could go on with this topic for days, so much to talk about. It would all be killer to listen to I always learn something.
This was a great session. I’m definitely going to watch it again and it was fun to listen to
I love this conversation. Thank you guys, you nailed it.
Everyone’s tank and style of reefkeeping is different. So specific numbers will be different. But nutrients are not a bad thing corals actually really like them lol.
In my experience higher nutrients = less negative issues 🤷🏼♂️….Alkalinity I’ve only had issues under 7 and over 14.5 lol anywhere in the middle I’ve been good.
God bless you, Jake. Wherever you are.
recently picked up a copy of the modern coral reef aquarium. Really great info - as an ecology student it is an excellent read!
Love this conversation. I have a 220 with GHA and turf issue. Have 4 tangs (blue, sail, mimic, Scopas) and I was feeding them heavy and they didn't really know they were supposed to eat the algae. I cut food way back and the the tangs are now cleaning house. I can't believe the behavior change. Issue solved. Thanks.
And now I see this wonderful man passed away. Ugh. Very sorry for his family and friends.
I’m guilty of over feeding….
And wen you mentioned turning your lights down for algae it made me take a real hard look at my tanks and the ones with more algae….. I turned a couple down lol.
Realy interesting session as always.
Ans as an forest ecologist who has an reeftank i can say that at least i didn‘t scream internally because of Jakes grassland to old growth forest comparison. This comparison, even tho simplified, is still pretty good, after all succession happens as far as I know in every ecosystem on earth.
Another great episode and topic! On the subject of Lanthanum Chloride I would also add that it will send your dKH into free fall so that is another reason to be cautious of using it
Excellent indepth episode, definitely one of my favourite 👍
That session was perfect! Thank you guys!
thank you sir for the useful information,
greetings from Indonesia 😊🙏
50 sessions of reef therapy which I all have listened while doing tank maintenance 🤣 so, easily more than 50 hours of some sort of tank related stuff while listening to reef therapy
This session is on repeat all weekend💯💯💯💯💯💯
Great video guys
Love this discussion. Can u fit a bristletooth tang in a 40g breeder
No, you had it correct Mark.
Going back to "Liebig's law of the minimum": In a high energy planted tank, you're supplementing the CO2 in order to allow Aquatic Grasses and the other Macrophytes to outcompete the simple algae's. In freshwater (and saltwater) dissolved carbon can be the limiting rate step for photosynthetic organisms due to waters limited ability to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere.
So when you're dosing fertilizers (primary macro nutrients, secondary macro nutrients, and micro nutrients), the only bottle neck is the lack of available carbon. When you eliminate that limiting rate, and push it higher than it should go naturally, the plant growth outcompetes algae's.
Now back to marine systems: I particularly enjoyed the macro algae discussion. I personally love using macro algae on reverse daylight to consume CO2, consume excess nutrients, outcompete other algae, and raise pH. However, I have yet to not have a batch eventually crash.
Eventually, even cheato crashes on me. Though I found Ulva to be my personal favorite, which seems to grow faster than the cheato strains I've had access to, but Ulva seems to crash even faster. And that's with dosing a supplement like "cheato grow".
However, even with those challenges I vastly prefer having a sump with some kind of algae chamber. As you said, it allows us to choose the dominant species of algae to deal with
I have a 40 breeder, is there any tang that I could put in a tank that size, if not what are some good herbivores that I could put in. I do currently have a half black angelfish but that’s it. Thanks in advance.
Mark - I’m doing a thin crushed coral bed for the first time. What is your maintenance routine and/or inverts you utilize to keep it relatively clean?
Not sure if I missed it but can you go over the film algae on the glass? Mine seems to grow daily even with lowering my lights and nutrients
1:33:30 on point man !
Currently have some algea but the tank is 1 month old after the restart, no coral in yet. I will just add more algea eating animels. Mexicans turbosnail seem to do the job very well.
Some of that low hanging fruit. 😅 Enjoyed it!
I love putting mollies in my maintenance account tanks! Thank you for saying this! Also in saltwater, they seem to be more high energy.
I put them into my qt every time I cycle fish through. Then after the qt is over I move them to my 400g and 320g displays.
They swim around in packs like anthias. I have black, dalmatian and orange ones .
This is a great episode. Have you seen the Ryan's biome cycling series from BRS? What are your thoughts? It seems like it is saying some of the same things that you guys talked about.
Ok what's this "cotton candy algae" you guys mentioned? Haven't heard of that before bit I think I might have this, and I want to look into it. Great conversation as always guys!
Snails are good for cleaning glass and helping with the substrate. I like urchins but I love an army of hermits they are the best imo at getting into the rockwork and keeping the rocks clean. I have a pbt and a tomini and a foxface but with how much I feed they don't eat as much algae as they normally would. But hermits are great and are the primary force to keeping my 20 gallon clean. Idk why they have a bad reputation I know they will eat snails but snails are dumb and most will fall on their backs and die anyways lol
GOOD sharing my dear have a GREAT day STAY CONNECT
Rest in Peace my friend you are greatly missed 🥲
My sailfin loves to reorganize my tank, honestly highly frustrating! Pick n places frags where ever he wishes.. I sell stomas btw
No love for Centropyge☹️?! Also, I love that Jake changed his tune on “asterinas” eating coral. My dead zoas and I appreciate you!
3 day black out with microbacter 7 and microbacter clean will almost reset all algae
Are limpets and stomatellas different???
Wen I first started I thought limpets were a pest 🤦🏼♂️ now I learned to like them.
Limpets are more stationary and from what I've seen they have small feelers that can come out from all sides to clean the surface.
Once a month I turn my tank to milk. Blow sand n rocks with turkey baster and turn it milky white. After it clears omg it's pristine. I never use carbon either.
I “ bubble scrub” my 300 by dosing 1/2 dose Chemiclean every 3-4 months. Keeps the tank happy
i love gha in some tanks , best nute exporter out there :;)i.e my seahorse tanks
I'm surprised y'all didn't mention sea hares. I don't think they belong in hobbyists tanks because they are so sensitive but they do a very good job eating algae.
They can or will ink your tank up if stressed. They will eat macro algae,but a majority of the undesirable algae are micro algae,Which they don't eat...
algae mower vac!
My linardi wrasse has eaten all my stomatelas
He said Come on now, come onnnn now. lol