An-Nasi' النسيء
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Article:
de Blois, François. “Qurʾān 9:37 and CIH 547.” Proceedings of the Seminar for Arabian Studies, Vol. 34, Papers from the thirty-seventh meeting of the Seminar for Arabian Studies held in London, 17-19 July 2003(2004), pp. 101-104. Published by Archaeopress Publishing Ltd.
Stable URL: www.jstor.org/stable/41223809
The Quran's example of Intercalation:
(Verse 18:25)
• 300 solar years are approximately 109572.66 days (= 300 years x 365.2422 days)
• 300 years made of 12 lunar months are approximately 106310.124 days (= 300 years x 12 months x 29.53059 days)
• Missing (leap) days: 300 "solar years" - 300 "years made of 12 lunar months" =
109572.66 - 106310.124 = 3262.536 days
In other words, after a period of 300 years, the lunar calendar will be missing approximately 3262 days. This means that we need to add 3262 days throughout the 300-year period in order to bring back the months within their respective season.
How many months do the 3262 days amount to?
• Converting days to months: (3262.536 days)/29.53059 days = 110.48 months
How many years does this give?
• Converting months to years: (110.4799 months)/12 months = 9.21 years
So, during a period of 300 years, 9 leap years must be added. Which is exactly what verse 18:25 stated. In other words, the 9 years that were added are in fact the accumulation of leap months needed to complete the lunisolar calendar.
Part of the story of the People of the Cave is thus used as an example to teach us the correct way to keep track of time.
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In the late 19th century, an interesting Inscription was discovered in Yemen. It was a monumental writing, dating back to the people of Saba’. In it an intriguing word was used - ns’w.
The inscription describes how two clans from South Arabia are apologizing to their god for having postponed (ns’w) a certain religious ritual. They explain that they were supposed to perform it during a specific month, but that they had to postpone the ritual to another month because of war. The first researcher to make the connection between this Sabean inscription and verse 9:37 of the Quran was the professor François de Blois.
Before this, some people assumed that the word nasi’ found in verse 9:37 is referring to intercalation (which is the process of adding leap days), but historical evidence says otherwise.
This video explains the correct meaning of nasi’ and presents additional evidence from the Holy Quran.
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Mashā'Allāh. I've been listening to this excellent presentation and 2 other videos many times and could never been bored to learn from them. We haven't met sister SM and perhaps will never have a chance for it. Please accept my deep appreciation upon your smartness and a trust that you must be a beautiful lady with voice of hearts :)
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Asalam alakum!! Alhamdullilah!!Awesome video...been searching for this and low and behold...you broke it down sis so I could understand
Wa alaykum asalam! Glad it was helpful :)
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Thank you very much, that means a lot! May God bless you.
@@SimplyMuslim You speak the truth based on Qur'an.you will be blessed in both worlds insha'Allah. pls pls pls do more vidoes addressing other issues which have been matter of confusion among Muslims.You will help many.Lord bless🤗🤗
Thank you very very very much for this amazing, much-needed video! You are amazing at presenting your proofs and convincing others of your claim. May Allah guide us all to the truth.
Thank you! :)
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Thank you!
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All praise to ALLAH
GREAT WORK!
Thank you!
Woaw ur video is so educational..
U just solved what i was looking for... I wanted to follow calender pattern and base my life around a ( lets say Islamic calendar) but the current one i have issue with so i was looking for an alternative... This solved everything....
I hope u make more videos and contents like this...
It would really help some of us.... 😇
May it please our Lord
Alhamduliah great sis🌱🌺💃
Thanks!
Salam !
Why are you not making new videos ? Mashallah you are good in explanation
EXCELLENT!!!
A Curious Muslim awesome thanks! Please check my channel out when you have the time.
Peace
I did check out your channel and subscribed. Your videos are very impressive and thought-provoking. Peace!
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@@qurancentric7459 :) By the way, i left a comment for you in your Community post involving the vote of changing your channel name. And also maybe one day, you and Simply Muslim should collaborate one day.
U are amazing
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The word month is mentioned 12 times in the Quran.
The word days are mentioned 365 times in the Quran.
The word year is mentioned 19 times in the Quran (12 times as a plural and 7 times singular).
We need to use a 19 year cyclus, which 12 of it are normal years and 7 have an intercalated month.
7 times in a 19 year timeframe there will appear a blue moon.. Coincidence?!
All praise due to God for guiding us!!
Thank you for this comment
Please make video about when the month of Ramzan and how many days we have to fast.
Salam,
I’ve just finished all of videos on your channel, and I have to say, your explanation and narration is excellent, both in terms of quality and substance.
Will you post more videos cover other topics of the Quran? Your channel is among the few covering a critical examination of beliefs and practices of traditional orthodox Islam and compare it with Quranic understanding.
Please keep up the good work. And, may God bless you.
Salam, thank you for your kind words.
@@SimplyMuslim which country do you live in ?
I can help in video editing im good at it but please post moree!!
Hello SM , i would like to know how do you determine the correct time for ramadan according to the lunisolar calendar ?
Salam great Effort ... Do u have any group or on social platform where u share your thoughts because u leave after making 3 videos
Salam. I don't, but perhaps I'll make more videos in the future if I find the time.
Where did you go? we need you making more those incredible videos
Thank you for your encouragement. I might make more videos in the future, I just don't have enough time at the moment.
LITERALLY IM WAITINGGG
@@jasmin5868 I Leaved islam since my comment because of yasir qadhi drama on quran
@@jasmin5868 watch saeed1 for more interesting content!
Assalamu Alaikum,
The number of months in the sight of Allah is 12 (9:36)
The Sun and moon is to measure the day and night (10:5)
With this mankind has got a counting device to measure the time in days, months and years
Without a calendar system, man cannot fix his holy days, schedule to work, business etc
All religion has separate calendar systems for their specific rituals, celebrations etc
Christians follow the Gregorian calendar after their Julian calendar ends in the year 1752
Same like that Muslims follow the Hijra calendar for all the purposes like the celebration of Eid, fasting, Hajj, New Year etc, based on the moon calendar only.
Here the question arises is that?
As we know that Hijira calendar system has 29/30 days per month, and 12 months per year but does not have 7 days per week system. These 7 days' week systems are present in the Gregorian calendar, not in the Hijira calendar.
If we took only the Hijira calendar for our religious activities then how did the Friday come into existence in the Muslim world, there is no Friday the 6th day of the week in the lunar-based Hijira calendar, there are no 7 days per week system, only Gregorian calendar has 7 days per week system and the holy Friday always falls on 6th day of the week and Hijira calendar cannot compromise with Gregorian 7 Days per week system. Both are totally different. It is clear now that we are praying Jumma on Friday is following the Gregorian Friday.
Another issue is that if Friday falls on the 6th day of the Hijira calendar then there is only one 6th day in a month and we shall pray only once in a month instead of weekly.
If we read the history of the Hijira calendar the first day of Hijira corresponds to the Day Prophet Muhammad fled Makkah to Madina in 622 AD and we don’t have any proof that this event took place on the first day of the new moon. The hijra calendar was not in use until 638 AD, it was invented after 16 years in Madina and 6 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad.
Here the question is how did the Prophet and companion of the Prophet performed all the rituals, prayers, fasting, Hajj etc for 26 years before the invention of the Hijira calendar.
From history, the Hijira calendar was initiated by one of the companions of the Prophet and not the Prophet himself.
Please let us know that
1. How did Friday (Jumma prayer) coincide with the Gregorian calendar?
2. Does the Hijira calendar have any 7 days per week systems as the Gregorian week's system are not?
3. If the Hijira calendar was not initiated during the period of the Prophet, how could the Prophet perform the rituals etc?
Wa aleika al salaam
mind blown. just curios, did you found out about these facts on your own or you have someone like a mentor who help you?
Thank you. I don't have a mentor, but I also did not find all of these facts on my own. For instance, the timeline at 5:13 was a point that a friend of mine thought about.
Why don't u post more vids!
Hi :). Where do you get all those information? Why do not all these walking dead people not speak about those important things? It's too sad :(. I love your videos and it remove a burden from my heart. Thank you so much
Hi Muddi Shammari, I agree. It's very unfortunate.
I'm glad you enjoyed the videos. I got this information after making quite a bit of research. Thank you so much for your kind words :)
@@SimplyMuslim please keep doing this, the world need people like you.
ما شاء الله
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🥀اَللّٰھُمَّ صَلِّ عَلٰـی مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلٰیٓ اٰل ِمُحَمَّدٍ کَمَا صَلَّیْتَـــ عَلٰی اِبْرَاھِیْمَ وَعَلٰیٓ اٰلِ اِبْرَاھِیْمَ اِنَّکَـــ حَمِیْدٌ مَّجِید ۔ اَللّٰھُمَّ بَارِکْـــ عَلٰی مُحَمَّدٍ وَّ عَلٰیٓ اٰل ِمُحَمَّدٍ کَمَـــا بَارَکْتَـــ عَلٰی اِبْرَاھِیْمَ وَعَلٰیٓ اٰلِ اِبْرَاھِیْمَ اِنَّکَــــ حَمِیْد مَّجِید🥀
3 سنوات بدون اي محتوى جديد هذا امر مؤسف
We have screwed 14XX years of islamic history, thus 14xx or 13xx ramadans and hajjs. This must be fixed
Agreed!
I know that it is a serious issue, but you made me laugh 😂
Just curious, is this all contemplation on your part or are there others pushing this topic to the public eye? I'm just curious to find out how you figured or learned all of this. I'm a recent Muslim so I'm kind of hurt to learn that other muslims have been fasting Ramadan on the wrong month and missing laylatul qadr all along. Why haven't other major scholars spoken about this? You'd think following the right calendar is important right? But I literally can't find any of the youtuber muslim speakers talking about this.
You're right. It's unfortunately not a subject that "scholars" talk about (and most Muslims don't even know about it). That's actually the reason I made these 3 videos. I couldn't find anything about it online, so I decided to share this information myself.
That being said, I also noticed that more and more Muslims are waking up and becoming aware of this (especially in the Arab world). Over the past year or so, I've seen quite a few Arabic videos on TH-cam that discuss this subject.
Realizing that the majority can be wrong is frustrating, but that's exactly why it's absolutely necessary to think for oneself and not just follow others blindly -- which is precisely what the Quran reminds us of. (See 6:116, 33:67, 17:36, 10:101, 22:46). The “sheep-follower” mentality is condemned in 7:179.
Peace and God bless :)
salam the sun is used to calculate the hours in a day and the moon for months no?
Salam, yes. But the sun is also used to calculate the days in a year.
@@SimplyMuslim salam and can't we see which month of the year/season by looking the moon through the zodiac signs? Though, today it's hard to see in the cities because of the light pollution. But, I think that was the ancient's way. The sky works like a perfect clock and it's more evident on a flat earth model with the dome above us all. Also, there is what called the sun's analemma and I think the moon has it as well. Anyway, I'm not an expert, I'm just a simple muslim, just like you, that would like to practice it closer to the true islam. Our deen it's a way of seeing the signs of Allah in the sky from where you are on earth. For instance, when the sun disappear at the horizon, it's time for maghreb adhan to be called and when the new crescent moon is visible for ramadân (and all the other months as well), then you start your fast on the next morning. And you don't start ramadân if the moon was seen in arabia if you live, for exemple, like me, in Montreal, Canada. Anyway, sorry for ranting. salam. I have to tell you that you did great research and I liked your video thanks barakallahou fik.
Did you produce the videos on your channel? May I synchronize the videos in German and upload them on my channel? Could you please send me the video in textform? My English is not the best and some words I do not understand, I need the video in textform, so I can look up the words and translate them into German .... Salam
Salam. Yes, I produced all of my videos. Of course you can post any of them in your channel if you wish to explain them in German, as long as you cite this channel as the original author.
@@SimplyMuslim Salam.... Now I see that the subtitles are available so I don´t need the scripts anymore.
So Ramadan for example should happen in the same season every year? Does this mean the vast majority of Muslims are fasting on the wrong days?
Exactly. Ramadan should always occur in Fall. And yes, the vast majority of today's Muslims are not following the calendar used at the time of the Messenger.
In verse 6:116 God tells us to be careful when following the majority.
Does that make their fast void? And what's the correct dates to fast?
@@jackornduff9185 I do not know the answer to your first question. Only God can judge such matters, and God is the most Just, the most Merciful.
For your second question, since the Islamic Calendar is lunisolar, it works like any other lunisolar calendar. Personally, I have been using the Chinese Clendar to determine the correct dates. Ramadan is equivalent to the 9th month of the Chinese Calendar, which will start on September 29th this year.
@@SimplyMuslim neat. I just looked that in the Jewish calendar that Ramadan should begin on September 30th this year. Doesn't make more scenes to follow the Jewish calendar?
@@jackornduff9185 Any lunisolar calendar works, so yes the Jewish Calendar is correct too.
As for the specific day on which the new moon begins (i.e. in this case will Ramadan's New Moon start on the 29th or 30th), no one can determine that with 100% certainty in advance. Moon phases can be predicted through mathematical calculations, but there will always be a small degree of error. But the calendar is still accurate if you consider the entire year, because its errors end up cancelling out (since its new moon predictions will sometimes be ahead by 1 day and sometimes behind by 1 day).
Selam Sister😁
Do you think that the "Farewell Seremon" has validity? Because in the Seremon is the "Intercolation-Forbid"
Selam, Besi😁
Salam Besi, I think it is the root of this confusion.
@@SimplyMuslim So do you think they are invalid?
Selam Besi😁💛
Yes
Thanks for your answer😄
The only thing what me holds back is, that Umar reformed the calendar in the year 637 (with archeologic evidence). Now is the Question:
Was Umar a Protagonist or Antagonist?
An does not an extra Month also "postpone" the Holy Months? And when, when you interculate Dhul-Hidschab, does it not mean that you have now 5 Holy Months?
Selam Besi💛
Objectively speaking, once we adopt a lunisolar calendar, the month names perfectly follow the seasonal cycle experienced in the Arabian Peninsula. So, even if we assume that Umar reformed the names, I don't see any issues. The only way this would be problematic is if it created some kind of contradiction, which it didn't.
As for the leap month, it is not an extra month. It's an accumulation of missed days. Without the leap month, the holy months (and all the other months) would shift backward. The leap month is what's keeping them around their original position.
Intercalation is not postponement. (For instance, when we add the leap day on Feb., it doesn't mean that we postponed March. The added leap day isn't an extra day. It's an accumulation of missed hours).
If you happen to add the leap month after a holy month, it doesn't mean that the holy month has 60 days now or was doubled. The leap month itself is not a holy month. We still only have 4 holy months per year.
Salam,
why bother with lunisolar calendar, since solar calendar is simpler you just have to add 1 day every 4 years.
Salam, it's because we need our months to be synched to the lunar cycle too. We want each month to begin with a new moon and have a full moon in the middle.
Peace!
How do you calculate time in the vers 14 in the sura 29 based on solar-lunar calendar: "We sent Noah to his people, and He
stayed among them for a thousand years سَنَةٍ (sinetin) minus fifty years عَامًا.(amaa)..." What is difference between sinetin and amaa?
May God make you stronger.
Peace. I love this question! I've had the same question as well and I'm still trying to figure out what this verse means. Some points to consider:
• The word "سنة" means "year", but the word "عام" refers to an extended period of time (but, from what I've seen so far, its specific duration is debatable).
• If you are familiar with Dr. Muhammad Shahrour, I remember watching a video on TH-cam where he talks about this verse. According to him, he found historical evidence which shows that people in very early history did not count time the same way that we do. They had a different unit of measure. And, according to him, a "عام" lasts longer than a year. I do not remember however if he found the specific duration of "عام".
I do think that his reasoning is logical, but of course it would be even better if we actually determine the length of this unit of measure known as "عام".
So yeah this is a very interesting question that requires more research.
@@SimplyMuslim After I made further analysis it seems that the verse 25 in Chapter 18 uses the phrase sinetin denotes the course of time that includes both the phases of the sun and the moon to tell us exactly how long the group spent in the cave. The time always contains the sun with the moon. But, we must not forget that the word of God is accurate with perfect diagnostics ,depending on what it is all about in terms of action, environment, subject and neglected time. This verse also contains a glimpse of the future world that competes in who should better determine the exact time. As for the Noah's time, the verse includes both expressions "sinetin" and "amaa", and I believe that 1000 "sinetin" minus 50 "amaa"= 950 in the context denotes 900 hard and strenuous years that Noah spent with his people before the Great Flood and 50 (amaa) good, welfare years signify time after major flooding. Why? Because through the Qur'an we see that there is a difference between the words sinatun & amaa, both words are used for the year but the sinatun is used for years with drought, death and hardness and "amaa" are the years where there is abundance and amplitude. Even the Bible says Noah lived 950 years. I also mean that verses in themselves also mean time periods for how people at that time looked at the time and designated the years, they did not always use calendars as we do today. In chapter with Joseph we see that the years are divided on the poor in rich. Therefore, in these verses, I see the exact diagnosis in the word of God.
We also see that the verse (18:18) about the group of young people in the cave during their sleep for so many years (sinetin) tells about their bodily condition and if one would look at them one would be afraid and one would run from there. In other words, no beautiful view considering how they visually looked.
" And you would have thought they were awake, though they were asleep. We turned them over, to the right and left, while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance. Had you looked at them, you would have certainly fled away from them, filled with horror."
I think that a 1000 unit of time sana minus another 50 unit of time aam should first be equivalent to a humanly acceptable age, which can not exceed 120 of gregorian yrs, and you can only get that by assuming that the sana of that verse is equale to 30 days, which leads to an abvious question, why not call it mounths instead of sana? my guess that what caused the great flood also caused that calandar system, you can argue that it is ridicules only if you dont beleive that Noe lived for more than 1000 of our yrs...
@@safetmemic the Book of Enoch explains the calendar in detail
364 days is the perfect calendar if we follow the stars
is the new moon when the moon is full or when it is small?
The actual new moon is technically not visible, but it marks the beginning of the month.
@@SimplyMuslim I just realised that the Christians and the Jews also Fast at this time of year for 10 days. Amazing
The sura says 2:183 O you who believe, fasting has been decreed for you as it was decreed for those before you, perhaps you may be righteous. Thats why I only fast 10 days.
Salam,
I am clear with Nasee and the people of the Cave (the 9 years = 110 leap months). What still not clear to me if this intercalation months do not bring some of the years will have 13 months and you mentioned it is not but it is actually adding back days that were not accounted for. This is not that clear to me if you can elaborate more or give more illustrations.
Thank you in advance,
Salam Adam, thank you for your comment. I saw that you've asked this question on the previous video, so I've responded there. I hope that my reply clarified this point.
Do you believe that the month of scorching heat (ramadan) is in July?
Peace Sicarius Hahni,
I do talk about this this in a video called "Forgotten Meanings of the Isalmic Months".
@@SimplyMuslim the current calendar is manipulated obviously.
You cant have ramadan long after jumada al awal wa jumada thanni.
You should make a luni solar calendar with new month names.
The current calendar is broken, their month names as well.
@@sicariushahni5366 You need to support your statements with proofs from objective sources.
The fact that the calendar followed by the majority is "broken" is a given. When I made this claim in my videos, I presented multiple proofs from the Quran, Science, Archeology, etc.
But you insist that the month _names_ are also "broken". Prove it. That's all we're asking for.
As for when the Hijri year and Ramadan starts for the following years:
2024: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 10th of April.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 4th of October
2025: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 30th of March.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 23rd of September
2026: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 18th of April.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 12th of October
2027: Rabi al Awwal (new year) begins with the new moon that is born on the 8th of April.
Ramadan begins with the new moon that is born on the 1st of October
Selam, sister. I don't think translating the word "yuwaadi'uu" as "to agree with" causes any contradictions in 9:37. Let's assume the 5th, 6th, 7th and the 8th months are declared sacred/forbidden originally. These rejecters accept these months as they are one year, and shift them one year. When they shift them, they say the forbidden months are 6th, 7th, 8th and the 9th ones this year. So, they "agree with" the number, which is 4 in total, but they shift them so that they can make lawful what's forbidden in the 5th month.
Maybe they shift them by 2 or more months instead of 1, I don't know. Just wanted to point this out.
Salam. You're right. It's also possible to interpret that verse the way you explained it.
Sacred months start from Ramadan to Dhul Hajj.
I'm still confused on how to use the lunisolar calendar?
What are you confused about?
@@SimplyMuslim Thanks for your reply. So if our current Hijri calendar isn't "correct" because it's not in sync with the seasons, then what's the alternative calendar, that is in sync with the seasons, as well as in sync with the moon phases, where day 13, 14, 15 fall under Full Moon, ayam albeed?
The lunisolar calendar allows us to keep the moon phases and seasons in sync. I talk about it in my 2nd video (The Islamic Calendar).
If you want to actually use this calendar -- i.e. know when the lunar month starts, which years require an added leap month, etc. -- you can google and follow any lunisolar calendar, such as the Jewish Calendar, the Chinese Calendar... All lunisolar calendars are basically the same; only the name changes (and a few minor details).
Personally, I use the conversion tables provided on this website: www.hko.gov.hk/en/gts/time/conversion.htm
I find them very convenient since they help you convert the calendar from Gregorian to Lunisolar. Hope this helps.
@@SimplyMuslim Thanks for your reply. But I want a calendar with our Islamic dates on it, would it be possible to make a Luni-solar Calendar using the Islamic months names that allow us to keep the moon phases and seasons in sync.
All lunisolar calendars are basically the same, but it's certainly possible to make your own and personalize it by changing the names of the months.
For example, you can take the Jewish Calendar (which, like the Islamic Calendar, is a descendant of the Babylonian calendar) and replace the Hebrew month names with Arabic month names. (So, "Adar" would be "Safar", "Nisan" would be "Rabi al-awal", "Lyar" would be "Rabi athani", ... "Tishrei" would be "Ramadan", etc.). Now you have the Islamic Calendar.
Note that the calendar itself is lunisolar either way and it doesn't really matter which language you're using. What matters is functionality.
if every 3 years a leap month is added, in 300 years 100 months will be added rt,
that means 8 years and 4 months rt?
I've put this in the description, but I'll copy-paste it here:
• 300 solar years are approximately 109572.66 days (= 300 years x 365.2422 days)
• 300 years made of 12 lunar months are approximately 106310.124 days (= 300 years x 12 months x 29.53059 days)
• Missing (leap) days: 300 "solar years" - 300 "years made of 12 lunar months" =
109572.66 - 106310.124 = 3262.536 days
In other words, after a period of 300 years, the lunar calendar will be missing approximately 3262 days. This means that we need to add 3262 days throughout the 300-year period in order to bring back the months within their respective season.
How many months do the 3262 days amount to?
• Converting days to months: (3262.536 days)/29.53059 days = 110.48 months
How many years does this give?
• Converting months to years: (110.4799 months)/12 months = 9.21 years
@@SimplyMuslim Thanks
So you're telling me we should follow the Jewish calendar?
We should follow the lunisolar calendar, since that's what the original Islamic Calendar was. Since all lunisolar calendars basically work the same way, you could follow whichever one you want. The Jewish calendar is but one example.
@@SimplyMuslim how do you resolve the issue of when the interculating month should be added? If you start counting the years for interculating this day, then it's expected that the interculating month should take place sooner than if you starring counting e.g. 2 years ago. So different calendars would add the interculating month during different years based on when they start counting and therefore the calendars wouldn't be completely in sync, don't you think?
May God protect you and enlighten you.
Why are you still using the names of the calendar which were invented by Umar. They clearly manipulated the names of the months..
Thank you, I extend the same wishes to you.
The notion that the month names have been changed is based on "hadith" literature. There is no objective historical evidence to support this.
Besides, once we adopt a lunisolar calendar, we see that the month names perfectly follow the seasonal cycle experienced in the Arabian Peninsula. Had the names of the months been corrupted, surely they would no longer match their respective seasons.
Since the names happen to perfectly fit the seasonal flow experienced in that region, without concrete evidence I find it hard to believe that someone tampered with them.
@@SimplyMuslim no they dont?
You cant have ramadan which means scorching heat after jumadal awal wa jumada thanni. You first have intense heat before the ground starts drying out
Ramadan also is the holiest months of the four holy months. In it the Quran was revealed. The other 3 months follow it consecutively.
They changed the first month of their calendar and named it muharram. Its so obvious, i see how they didnt want to make ramadaan one of the four holy months.
You are the one who is upholding the names of the months which can be found in the calendar made by Umar.
You dont have to know the narrations to see this flaw.
Also the year starts at the march equinox. The 9th month of the year isnt the one with the scorching heat. It should be the 6th in a new luni solar calendar.
@@sicariushahni5366Present your proofs if you are truthful.
When I claimed that the calendar followed by the majority has been corrupted, I presented multiple proofs from objective sources: Quran, Science, Archeology, etc.
You claim that the month names have been corrupted. But where is your objective evidence?
Peace.
@@sicariushahni5366 if it was for Omar to invent names of the months he would name them Omar1, omar2, omar3 etc. But that would raise suspicion, so he just messed it up as he had messed up more things, but kept the names.
a Lunar will not complete the Unisolar - النَّسِيْۤءُ
Quran 17:12
the 9 years mentioned in
Surah 18 verse 25
had nothing to do with the
Lunar years
we've been walking backwards
all these years
btw: when was the Quran revealed?
salaam
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That's great! Thanks for sharing :)
Simply Muslim by the way, Ramadan started on 29th of August
@@beniaminmattin7050 I believe Ramadan starts on the 17th of September, since harvest moon will be on Oct 1st and Yom Kippur (Jewish day of fasting) will be on the evening of Sep 27th.
Simply Muslim doesn’t Ramadan always start late August/early September though?
Logically, Ramadan should fall around September/October because we want Shawwal to always fall around November. (Why? Because November is the start of the camel breeding season in the Arabian Peninsula). If Ramadan was around August/September, then Shawwal would be September/October and thus never actually fall on November.
Interestingly, I noticed from past experience that when we observe Ramadan this way, it always falls during the lunar month of Tishrei in the Jewish Calendar (which contains Yom Kippur, the day during which Jews observe fasting).
A leap month is a month added. Like the leap day added to february. They are "added".
If muslims want a Calendar that calculates exacte seasons, the Gregorian Calendar is great.
If muslims want a Calendar that calculates somme or difference between days, the Unix Date system (time from 1-1-1970 @) is great.
if muslims want a Luni-Solar Calendar, Persian or Chinese or Indian Luni-Solar Calendar are great.
Muslim Calendar Must Remain Lunar. The sighting of the crescent is imposed in the coran. The exact saisons is not the goal.
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هذا جدال لا طائل منه ما لم تحدد أولا أي تقويم يحوي هذه الأشهر الحرم، قمري هو أم شمسي؟ و حرمة هذه الأشهر ليست فقط حرمة القتال بين الناس و لكن الصيد جانب مهم، و بعد تتناسل أسئلة لا تنتهي حول التقويم الأمثل لدورة الحياة الطبيعية أهو شمسي أم قمري و لا تحسب أن جواب هذا سهل...أما لغويا فكلمة نسيء تعني التأخر في سلسلة مترادفة مثل آخر التحديثات لبرنامج واحد اي الآبدايت أو آخر ما حرمه الله في مسألة واحدة أي النسخ بين الرسالات المتعاقبة، و هذا ليس تأخيرا بل زيادة في معروف مثل الأشهر 12 يزاد لها شهر ثالث عشر كل عامين في التقويم الروماني بسبب خزعبلات حول نحس الأعداد الزوجية و الفردية، و اخيرا حبذا لو ذكرت لنا اين نجد تفصيل الكلمة التي وجدت في اليمن و نعتها بالدليل الأثري الا أن وصفك لها هو وصف خرافة لا يدرى من اين اتت...
انا بتابع الموضوع ومش فاهم وجهة نظرك تحديدا ياريت لو تقولي مرجع أو بحث ينفعني ف الموضوع لاني مهتم به وشكرا
@@tahawafy4731 الموضوع يختلف حسب غاية كل من يتصدى ةله و غالبا ما ينطلقون من قناعات مضمرة يحاولون فهم اية النسيء لتواطئها، و لكي تفهم فقد حاول نيازي عز الدين مثل هذا و خطأ المصحف و تجاهل شحرور ذلك فوافقه و كل هذا بسبب قناعة خاطئة حول علاقة اسماء اأشهر الهجري بفصول السنة و قناعة أكثر خطئا بمعيار الزمن كأنه يدور في دورة مغلقة بدل الانسياب و كما قلت فللموضوع جوانب أخرى و تداعيات أخطر
كيف تقول يناير عمره ما يجي في الصيف؟ يناير يكون شتاء فقط في شمال مدار الاستواء، ولكن مناطق الجنوب كل يناير عندهم في عز الصيف،.
هذا يعني أنه حتى لو أضفنا شهر نسيء كل ثلاثة سنوات،. لو أضفناه لتصحيح التقويم فقد أغفلنا وتجاهلنا القسم الجنوبي كله،. فلو كان رمضان في الشتاء شمالا،. سيكون في نفس اللحظة في الصيف في قارة أستراليا وجنوب أفريقيا، والأرجنتين وتشيلي، وهذا خلل كبير،. حيث ألزمت نفسك أن تضع تقويمين! تقويم لكل جهة على الأرض، فالشمال يخالف الجنوب في الفصول،. هذه حقيقة مثل تباين الليل والنهار على الأرض (شرقا وغربا)، فالفصول كذلك تتباين (شمالاً وجنوباً)،. فلو كان في مصر شتاء، اتصل على شخص في استراليا واسأله عن موسمه، سيقول صيف حار جاف،. حتى الكريسميس الذي اعتاد الناس أن يرون فيه الثلوج ورجل الثلج، ولكن في استراليا، يحتفلون بالكريسميس ورأس السـنة في الصيف،. هذه حقيقة،. فديسمبر ويناير عندهم حر شديد،. بعكس مناطق الشمال (أي شمال مدار الاستواء)،. بينما المناطق الاستوائية كالصومال والإكوادور مثلاً، يكون عندهم خريف في يناير،.. فرجاءً،. تراجع عن هذه الكلمة،.
تصحيح لبعض الأخطاء والمفاهيم في المقطع :
ــ الأشهر الحرم، يحرم فيها القتال، ولا يحرم فيها الصيد، الصيد يحرم على المحرم فقط،. قالَ اْللّٰه (لا تحلوا الصيد وأنتم حرم)
ــ النسيء ليس شهراً، النسيء يعني التأجيل،. مثل ربا النسيئة أي التأجيل، والله قال ﴿ما ننسخ من آية أو ننسئها﴾، أي نؤجلها، وقال رسول الله ﷺ بما معناه (من أحب أن يُنسأ له في عمره فليصل رحمه) أي يؤجل له في عمره،. والنسيء الذي كان يفعله المشركين هو (تأجيل) خصلة التحريم من الشهر الحرام لشهر آخر،. والله سماه (زيادة في الكفر)،. يعني حتى لو جعلته شهرا فهذا الشهر زيادة في الكفر،. لأن الله قال (إن عدة الشهور عند الله اثنا عشر شهرا). الكلام واضح، ما يصير نخليه 13 شهر.
ــ كلمة تقويم ليس لها أصل،. الاسم الصحيح هو التوقيت،. فلا تبن بناءً عظيماً على اسم ليس له وجود لا في القُــرآن ولا في السـنة الصحيحة ولا حتى الضعيفة.
ــ الأشهر القمرية ليس لها علاقة بالفصول والجو،. الفصول تعتمد على الشمس، بينما الأشهر تعتمد على الأهلة، قالَ اْللّٰه (يسألونك عن الأهلة قل هي مواقيت للناس) فالأشهر تتحدد بالقمر، والقمر.
ــ الأماكن التي تصوم 20 ساعة وتفطر 4 ساعات،. تقابلها مناطق أخرى في الجهة المقابلة تصوم 4 ساعات وتفطر 20 ساعة،. وهذه الحالة تتقلب تدريجيا كل فترة بينهم، فلا يصلح أن نقول أنه ظلم، فهم الآن يصومون لفترة طويلة ولكن بعد 10 سنوات سيصومون لفترة قصيرة.
ــ التقويم الشمسي ميقات شيطاني بحت، وهو يعتمد على ميلاد الشمس الذي خدعهم به الشيطان وجعله ميلاد جيسوس! ولكن ديننا قائم على الميقات القمري،. قال الله عنه ﴿ذلك الدين القيم﴾.
ــ الشهر عندنا يستحيل أن يكون 31 يوما، بل هو إما 29 أو 30 فقط،. فبالتالي عدد أيام السـنة القمرية لن توافق عدد أيام السنة الشمسية نهائياً، ولو أضفت وعدلت وقومت، ستكون خالفت أحاديث النّبي ﷺ، بل حتى خالف وتجاهلت الآية العظيمة التي جعلها الله لقياس الشهر (القمر) فهي مخلوقة هكذا، تختفي في هذه المدة التي ذكرها النّبي ﷺ،.
ــ رمضان لا يعني شدة الحر، بل شدة العطش، وهذا بسبب الصوم فيه.
ــ ربيع الأول والثاني، ليست أسماء فصول زراعية، ولا لها علاقة بالنبات وشكله، إنما هو من الثبات والاستقرار، يقال تربع على العرش، إذا استقر، ويقول الرسول ﷺ ﴿اللهم اجعل القُــرآن ربيع قلبي﴾،. أي ثابتاً مستقراً عليه.
ــ شعبان ليست شعاع بان! بل من الشعب، والتشعب، والشعاب، أي الانتشار، قالَ اْللّٰه ﴿انطلقوا إلى ظل ذي ثلاث شعب﴾،. وأهل مكة أدرى بشعابها أي سككها المنشرة المتناثرة، والشعب منتشر متناثر، وعندنا نبي اسمه شعيب،.
@@alghaithi777 أنا آسف لكن يوجد كمية من المغالطات بسبب انعدام المنهج و الغباء المقدس الذي تعتصم به كتميمة لفرض مصداقية على رأي الأموات المحنطة لا يفيد، التراكم العلمي الذي لم يعرفه صحابة النبي و علمناه نحن و تجهله أنت يقول أن ما تسميه صيفا و شتاءا مرتبط بزاوية محور دوران الأرض حول نفسها بالنسبة للشمس و موقع الأرض في فلكها الاهليليجي و ما أسماء الشهور إلا كما هي أسماء البشر قلما توافق المسمى ،أما مسألة الحرم ففيها أقوال شتى و يجوز أن الحرم هم من شهد الشهر الحرام و ليس من حج الى المسجد الحرام فقط و لهذا منطق أقوى يصدقه واقع يحتفل به ملايير الناس اينما كانوا بذبيحة عيد الاضحى، أما التقويم فهو الإطار الذي يحسب فيه الناس سنتهم اين كان المرجع المعتمد شمسا ام قمرا ام فصلا او حتى اياما معدودة و القران لم يشجع في حساب السنة على الاهلة فقط بل و على الشمس ايضا و هي من خلق الله لا الشيطان الذي يركبك، و كفاية عليك و نصيحة ان تتخلص من كل ما لم يوجد في زمن الرسول و لم يصلنا حديثا و عش حياة الاموات تضفر بجهنم في الدنيا و الاخرة