tarp shelter how to: wet weather pitch
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Proven in practice, this is one of the pitches that makes tarp camping doable for other people than survival specialists. This video shows four variants on the semi floored solo cave. All of them have ground sheets in the foot area, which I happen to like a lot. They really are for one person, but you could sleep a dog or child in there too. The variants are, in order of my preference:
1: the simple variant shown first in the video, tied of to a tree, open door. Minimum of 5 stakes.
2: variant with a pole, plus mid panel lifter. Requires 7 stakes for better stability.
3: pole in the center, so that you get a pyramid style
4: closed door (it's ok, but a bit short). - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
My grand children and I have really enjoyed using many of your setups in the last 2 years. I'll tell anyone; a tarp is always lite, always right. Thanks!
Hi Detra Dearmas, that is great to hear! Have a nice time with the grandkids, Papa hiker
I have learned a lot from your videos over the last few years, and although I try to still go camping at 75 year's old some times with my wife , I will say the hardest part about tarp camping is shaping the bugnet to suit the tarp configuration
Hello John! Great to hear that you still camp at your age, that is the type of example young(er) guys like me are looking for. Yes, the bugnet is just custom thinking every time. I could try to do a video, but I would not really be speaking from experience.
Kind regards! Papa hiker
Love this pitch. Imma big fan of the one tree enclosed pitch. I don't like to use a pole inside my tarp. Ik it fine but I can't help but feel it reduces my tarps life and exposes it to concentrated stress on a small point
This is basically a like plow point using the square formed by the 4 side tie points, leaving the 4 triangles in the corners as the ground and doorway elements.
"OMG...I only have a tarp" just as my lips touiched the coffee cup. Coffee went everywhere. I subbed immediately.
Hahaha!
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@Bishop Jaiden Definitely, I've been watching on Flixzone} for since december myself :D
@Bishop Jaiden definitely, have been watching on Flixzone} for years myself :)
Great video! Thanks. I would like to see the full setting up of the in enclosed version.
I really like this tarp setup, it is now one of my favourites for wet weather conditions.
Great! I also pick this one pretty often, good protection, easy to do etc. And roomy too. Kind regards papa hiker
Thanks Papa hiker for great videos!
I’ve been leaving my tent home for the last two years, totally inspired by your channel; about 40 nights out with the tarp now!
Here comes a report-ish about this pitch of yours: Our stony and very much not flat forests in Sweden force me to improvise a lot, so last weekend testing this setup I came upon a possible improvement. So what i did: i just raised the back end one ”snap” (i hope you understand what i mean) and connected the next tieouts together and to the ground. Also instead of the middle tieouts i went for the second from the front but i think it doesn’t matter that much. It just made the footprint a bit smaller which i needed. Raising the back end gives you amazing cozy space inside, although you might lose a bit of the partial ground sheet. To block the wind entering the slit i put my backpack in there and it blocks the whole slit perfectly. I also use the DD 3x3m tarp.
Looking forward to your next video! :)
Cheers,
Mikko
I forgot a detail of my mod, i have the ridgeline-loops sideways, and the sides need to be lifted for it to work.
Hej Mikko! Ja, Svenska skogen är inte altid lett terreng for a sätta opp tarpen. Forstor jag correkt at du har rotärt hele tarpen 90 grader? Din "mod" synes en super bra idé! And sorry for my awful swedish :-)))
@Papa hiker Yeah, seems like you know quite a bit of swedish. :)
It's correct that I rotated the tarp 90 degrees. I tried to make a model of paper, and theoretically the setup should work even without lifting the sides but in practice the sides seem to be hanging a bit too loose. The sides lifted, though, the ridgeline notches down a bit and sleeping head towards the back reminds me of sleeping in my little Stortriss sailing boat, super cozy. Also I think the side lifters angled a bit backwards will do a lot for the wind stability.
@@mikkoiskanius Hi Mikko, great, like the creativity and situation handling!
Kind regards Papa hiker
great information and step by step instructions sir!!
+MrSIXGUNZ : thanks a lot! This is one of my favourites. Kind regards Papa hiker
Papa Hiker, your tarp videos are outstanding.
All are useful, however, your presentation of the Asymetrical Holden is the one I usually use. In hot weather, I pitch it up off the ground as a Fly. In bad weather, I pitch it tacked to the earth, except for the open side. I always have a poncho and some small tarp clips so that I can cover some of the open side.
As usual, it is a bad idea to make a single wall tent too closed up, it leads to condensation inside.
+Jas Holden, Hello Jas, thanks! I am also a fan of the asym holden. With the pitch in this video it sure helps if you keep a gap near the foot end, to get good air flow. Closing the opening with a poncho or wind shirt is a great idea. Kind regards PH
Looks like what we have here in Ontario, Canada. Most of our parks are exposed granite and make tarp setups extra challenging. Great video
Hi Jack, that sounds familiar! After a while you get creative with staking: shrubs, rocks etc. If you try this pitch in Ontario, let us know!Kind regards, Papa hiker
Very nice video 👍. Going to have to try some of those setups.
Hey papa hiker, je maakt leuke filmpjes met een duidelijke uitleg!! Bedankt.
Dankjewel Niels!
Nicely done!
Hi Roberts Bushcraft, thanks!
Thank you so much for sharing* :-)
I really enjoy and have learned a lot from you videos. I wonder if you have any pitches using a Military style poncho?
Hello J Fielden, I do have a playlist on the solo rectangular tarp. The military style poncho that is only 7 feet long uses the same setup’s, but because of it’s short length it is only to be used together with a bivvy bag, I guess.
Hello J Fielden, I do have a playlist on the solo rectangular tarp. The military style poncho that is only 7 feet long uses the same setup’s, but because of it’s short length it is only to be used together with a bivvy bag, I guess. th-cam.com/play/PL8KMdG4VVjDck-KAqyj_nFbV5TbDmSPYx.html
I stopped using all those ponchos years ago. IMHO: moving/climbing while wearing gore-tex/impregnated jacket is much easier than with poncho. For easy hike in rain is better use bigger tarp thrown over your backpack and clipped under your chin - you have the same protection against the rain and you can build full-valued shleter. With poncho-shelter you'll might stay dry while walking, but while sleeping under it you will have to chose, what's gonna stay wet - your gear/feet/head - usually combination of two will be hit by water :-D
Very nice. Forgive me if I missed it- what are the tarp dimensions? Great video!
+Wo1fLarsen: hi there, it's a 3x3 m tarp (or 10x10ft). If you trythe pitches, please report. Ack with your experiences! Kind regards PH
I'm a newly converted tarp guy and am enjoying your channel and tarp videos. I like several of your pitches. I wanted to know what tarp size you think is best and what kind of guy lines you use? Thanks in advance for any advice. I currently use a Sea to Summit 10' x 10'. Thanks!
Hi Jeff, do you travel solo? If so, my personal preference would be a 9x9 or a 10x6. I will take a 9x4.5 on my next winter trip and I expect that to just work in snow, but to be too small for rain. You own height also matters. I am 6 ft4.
Kind regards! Papa hiker
Great Shelter,What size tarp did you use?
Hello Martha, it is a 10x10 ft or 3x3 meter tarp. I use a dd tarp. Good luck! Papa hiker
Howdy, what are the locations of the tie out points on your tarp. It looks like you have numerous points along the perimeter as well as the ridge line. Thanks
Hi Chris, sorry for a late comment. If you google dd hammocks, dd tarp you will find a drawing that shows the locations. Kind regards, papa hiker
Thanks Papa. I checked and its 16 tie outs
Hi Papa Hiker,
I have a dd xl, and practiced some of your pitches, like cave, holden tent, tarp tent. As the tarp is quite large, I usually folded the half of it under as a ground floor. The problem being, I left the holden tent 1-2 days out in the garden and after one rainy misty morning the inner side of the tarp was full of moist, covered fully by water drops. Is that normal? I haven't tried it in a real situation, just practiced in the garden (no one slept in so there were no condensation) but I'm relly concerned about this. Thank you
Hey Offsboy,
Please watch my video’s on folding your tarp under as floor: th-cam.com/play/PL8KMdG4VVjDeIJVDubnNYaNZZRSZeLnqn.html
The playlist includes a video with tips on condensation. A floored tarp pitch is not ideal, because if condensation forms, it won’t drip on the ground, but on your ground sheet. Brrr! By the way, condensation does often not occur just from your damp breath. Warmer air can hold more water than cold air. When the air is quite full of water (air humidity is 100%) and the air cools down in the morning, where can the water go? Often is forms as condensation on grass and tree leaves, but is really luuuuuvs the inside of your tarp, because is is such a cold surface. The tarp supercools because of evaporation of water on the top of it. You can use this to your advantage to get clean drinking water, should you lack that. Science just plain rules, it is like magic! Good luck figuring out a solution 😄. Kind regards Papa hiker
Random question: were you in Scotland this summer by any chance?
You never describe the size of tarp used.
Papa hiker, do you by any chance know a bad weather pitch for a rectangular tarp (the DD S to be precise)? This summer I'll be hiking in the Alps, Sweden and Scotland, all of which can be quite wet, cold, windy and unpredictable - so I'm thinking about buying a trailstar/tarptent/pyramid shelter unless I know some reliable pitches for my tarp. I'd prefer the latter!
In any case, thanks for your upload, I find your videos really inspiring!
Hey Thumanina, I have a video specifically for that tarp size: th-cam.com/video/uCeKhiLeFGwI/w-d-xo.htmlt's an awesome tarp size, probably good for Sweden and the Alps, but in Scotland you should definately combine with a breathable bivvy bag. Think about the fact that the pitches that offer a lot of protection, offer no sitting height, and those wet evenings can be very long. My personal preference for continued wet and windy conditions is a floorless shelter that is (almost) enclosed on all sides and offers sitting height. Your cheapest and most versatile option is to buy a DD 3*3 or similar. In Scottish conditions you could do a pitch from this video: th-cam.com/video/L8lw64__n8M/w-d-xo.html And if the weather is good and you have a fire going you can do an open glamping pitch, like the arrowhead wedge or the toque tent. Good luck!
Yeah, I already watched that one but couldn't find it back, so thanks for the link :) I recently tried a variant of the holden pitch and it protected me perfectly from the wind. However I'm not sure if I already saw your second link, which is also relevant to my case indeed. You've been very thankful!
Just one other question: the superlight version of the 3x3 DD tarp is actually not 3x3, but 3m x 2.9m. Do you think this will make some of those bomber pitches less than perfect? (because of the fact that it's not really square)
+thumanina Hey Thumanina, sorry for a late reply. I had that question before: all pitches will work just as well except the lengthwise pyramid, which will turn out just a little crooked. However, bear in mind that the superlight is of more stretchy material, so you need to make sure not to use sharp sticks and divide the forces evenly over your tie out points.
Thanks papa hiker, you're expert! :)
+thumanina: I wouldn't claim that, but thanks!
Yo Papa Hiker! What tarp are you using? Have you done a video on which tarps are the best? Great video!
Hey Joey! Sorry, late reply. The tarp is a DD tarp: amzn.to/3unco0v
but this pitch is doable with almost any square tarp.
Kind regards! Papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 No worries! Thanks!
Looks like you are securing the front guy line at about eye level. Is that correct? I like the pitch - going to try it next week. Thanks for sharing.
+Crash Johnson Hello, great, give it a try! It's a reliable and comfortable pitch. If your tree is closer to the tarp the guyline is more at chest level, otherwise higher. In the fully enclosed version the height of the door is half the width of the tarp (5 ft in my case), so you need to attach your guyline pretty high up. The pitch needs practice: first you will likely be confused, later you find out it is actually easy. The pitching order really matters, and is different in the four variants the video. Give it a whirl and please report back on your experience!
Kind regards, papa hiker
how big is your tarp?
Hi Juskojj, it is 3*3 meter. 👍
Spaces too low to get under are useless. Likewise, areas under doors or openings are useless, subject to dripping water. Draw out what is left. Sleeping on a poncho often results in holes, which in time render the poncho useless for protection from rain. How do you manage all that?
Hey Tom, agreed with your first remark. If you stake your tarp to the ground, the last foot or so to the side is effectively useless: inly parts of the tarp that are pitched so high that you can sleep under them without touching add to useable floor space. I deal with this by using 3 ft tie outs on all staking points. That works very well. Holes in the poncho: I find it a bit harder to see that problem. The poncho I use is very light weight, but still about as strong as a ground sheet. Slept on it a lot, also in brush etc, but never any holes...
Kind regards Papa hiker
its rare i take half a person camping with me.
but it sure is a lightweight option compared to a whole person.