There is a concept known as INTELLECTUAL HUMILITY that is lacking in the world today. Intellectual humility is going into a debate to argue your point that you believe in, but willing to accept that you might actually be wrong by the end of the debate. This is a classic intellectual virtue because it's better to admit being incorrect and take on new information to be better informed, the remain stubborn in ignorance just to "win" an argument.
Abigail Bologa - Here are the Classical Intellectual Virtues: - Intellectual Love of Knowledge - Intellectual Firmness - Intellectual Courage and Caution - Intellectual Humility - Intellectual Autonomy - Intellectual Generosity - Intellectual Practical Wisdom The world would be a better (and sane place) if people practiced these more often.
Shick Singh When you believe your self an intellectual even if your a moron but you have 10k followers on the internet that bolsters your ego. How would you ever consider listening to another point of view?
Jason Moler - You are adding in ego which is the opposite of what Intellectual humility is all about. Yes everyone has ego, but when ego prevents you from admitting or accepting you can be wrong and need to update your beliefs, then that is nothing to do with humility at all. It really doesn't matter if you have 10 followers, or 10 million followers telling you how awesome your thoughts are. Humility also demands you accept the possibility that your followers could be wrong as well. The whole point is going into a debate as fallible human being, not a god with all the answers We all have limits to what we know, be we are limitless in learning new things. I hope all this makes sense.
Shick Singh yes it makes perfect sense. However I am speaking more about how the internet and social media has perverted the ability to express humility.
Loved this so much, Mark seems like a great and genuine guy. Also Creep is really good. Now I like it more. I will go watch it again now. You rock Mark!
I watched after Mark wrote a tweet today suggesting liberals take a look at what Ben Shapiro has to say to get perspective from the right, even if they disagree. Since actual liberals are few and far between, he was attacked by the mob of radicalized leftists instead. Those of us on the right can appreciate the sentiment of listening and thinking, so figured I could at least reciprocate and listen to some of the things he has to say.
What a thoughtful man. I've seen two of his films; Your Sisters Sister & Safety Not Guaranteed. I loved both! He's a gem. I will continue to support his work as much as I can.
Wow...what a well-spoken, well mannered good person. I don't agree with many of his views but the fact that he's willing to listen, debate and move on from disagreements is refreshing.
Gray Geist see I just found been Ben sharpo and I don't agree with him but he is actually bringing up really good point for the right I truly think the extremes are screwing all of us because most people I meet right or left only have a slightly lean not that much
Recently, Mark took a stand in solidarity to have conversations with conservatives, like Ben Shapiro, and he got fiery backlash from the Left on twitter. He apologized and recanted, damn.
Really appreciate Mark's openness and humility here. "What do you call people you can't talk to? Enemies." "I never learned anything from a man who agreed with me."
I'm a Bill of Rights "minarchist," but its fantastic that ultimately people can work together, not perfectly, not agreeing on all principles, but work together to achieve goals of commonality! Thanks Mark for the reach, braver than me!
Problem with Alex Jones; He may have ideas in common with Libertarians, getting rid of corruption and also getting sensible gov't vs over-berring gov't etc, and hilighting some truths in history that are hidden. But there is a lot of BS as part of that sandwich! It can be seen as entertainment/comedy as to how bizzare and far-off the theories are, but if mixing that with goals to ahcieve, it doesnt work! The BS theories being addressed towards solving problems, is like seeing a fire in a house, and saying, "lets play a game of basketball," to solve the problem vs actually meeting the obsticle head on and sovling the issue! BS theories and stories are escapism, and escapism contradicts the process of finding solutions to what is real!
This is a conversation with the overall theme of being humble, and learning more about what is the same. Multiple things about this is a great interview.
Hi David,I am watching your Rubin Report frequently and are amazed by what you are doing. In my mind you are changing the world - at least our way of thinking.
Great host, Great guest. Within this show are the ideas that could get people listening to each other again, and considering the viewpoints of others. Well Done!
I don't agree with some of his views, but I have immense respect for him. I used to be a liberal Democrat, and I've also worked in the film industry (as a writer). And he's damn lucky, that he hasn't seen the kind of push back from the left, that I and many other liberals have. The Left are vicious, and will attack you at a moments notice for not being "progressive" enough. As a woman, I've found myself disagreeing with social justice friends/colleagues on things they find sexist (or say I should be offended by). I've been called a traitor. I've been accused of wanting to be subservient to men. Basically, I'm not a real woman, if I speak my mind and don't fall in line and agree with everything. I also know other people, that have taken so much abuse, from fellow liberals for stepping out and disagreeing. And it's not even like we are disagreeing with the majority of what they believe in. We agree on a lot of things. It's not like we have radical views. But simply stepping out from the rest, is enough for those on the Left to attack you, accuse you of being sexist/racist or not being a true liberal. I do not see this anywhere near the rates , with the right. Yeah, both sides have extremist assholes. But there is something going on in the Left, that is scary. An extremist/ regressive left, that has grown in the last 10 years, and high-jacked this party. The problem is the regressive left has these "all or nothing" views. They have absolute, black or white, good or evil views, and there is no middle ground. You are either on their side, or you are not. And when you have this mentality, it makes it far too easy for someone to honestly disagree, say something that offends someone else - and that's it. You are a bad person. These people are not tolerate of dissenting opinions. If you say something they are offended by, they are not willing to have a conversation about it. They automatically label you and accuse you of being a bad person. I see this all the time with liberals I know, that end up being "marked as damaged goods". They do something or say something, and that's it. They are no longer good enough for this extremist left. So he's really lucky, that he hasn't had to experience that. I do believe he will, eventually. I'm amazed he hasn't. I think it's probably because he still tows the party line/ideology pretty hard. He hasn't really disagreed with the majority. Regardless, I have so much respect for him, for doing what he does - because it's not easy in the film industry. What he's doing, is not easy in that kind of industry. I've seen it first hand. I've seen people get bullied and ran out of jobs, for doing far less. Also even if you don't agree with him, the fact that he's willing to have a conversation and listen, is everything. So I respect what he's trying to do.
Rensune thanks. It was a rude awakening. I realized that I had no value as person, if I didn't step in line and agree constantly with the Regressive Left. They claim to be pro women, yet there are certain women who speak their mind and don't always agree - and we are no longer real women in their eyes. It's okay to abuse us, and even be sexist towards us. The hypocrisy is astounding. I recently read about Cassie Jaye and her documentary the Red Pill. And a lot of what she's experiencing, is what I experienced. And keep in mind, I wasn't even asking the questions she was. I was just minding my own business, and every once in a while I would speak up and respectfully disagree. That wasn't good enough. Colleagues, friends, and even family - lashed out at me. Accused me of being sexist. I've even been called a whore by other feminists. For me, what was an eye opener - is the fact that they don't want to discuss anything. They don't want to have a conversation. If you just ask questions, that upsets them. It reminds me of Scientology or some cult. I watched The Red Pill documentary last night, and.again, a lot of behaviors is what I saw. Just simply asking questions, lands you abuse. The fact that they aren't willing to talk about things, that they aren't even willing to talk about questions, tells you everything you need to know about them, and what they believe. Two of my closest friends, are women that work in Silicon Valley. They voted for Trump, and are terrified that if that ever gets out, they will be fired. And they would be right. We shouldn't have to be scared, just because we don't agree with you. We shouldn't be seen as lesser women (or not real women), just because we don't always agree. The last year has really turned my world upside, and I feel like I no longer belong anywhere. I've found people like Dave Rubin, and I guess I'm starting to make friends with Libertarians, but it's been insane to see the Left become the entity that it has become today. I don't recognize it anymore.
El A So you see where liberalism Leads. It is the natural progression of the ideology. Just as pure conservatism has its own dark and tyrannical ends. But I believe there is hope because most people are somewhere in the middle which is where common sense and decency live. The biggest challenge is to not let either extreme have too much power in which we have failed miserably. The question is how do we get back?
Jason Moler - the problem is when people stop thinking for themselves and rely on "leaders" to think for them. This is true on the right and the left. This is where you stop questioning and rely on faith that these leaders and your group is being truthful and moral. That is DANGEROUS. It turns thoughts into ideology that borderlines religious devotion. When it gets to that level, it's hard for people to admit they were gullible or put their faith in something false. They do all kinds of mental tricks to keep things going. NEVER BLINDLY TRUST. QUESTION EVERYTHING OFTEN. The truth will always stand up to questioning over time.
Shick Singh thanks for the reply. A lot of what you say, is very similar to what I've seen and experienced. Feminism is almost an extremist dogma. Something I've noticed is that, women actually get it worse from feminists than Men. I think it's because with Men, they can just dismiss it as "they are just a Male, and they have privilege and are sexist". Blah blah the patriarchy. It's very easy to handwave Men who don't agree. To belittle them, and make them subhuman almost. But when women disagree with them, something snaps. It's because they can't easily dismiss you, as it makes them hypocrites for doing so. The only way for them to reconcile this in their Brain, is to view you as sub-human. To say - this is a whore. This is a woman who wants to go back in the kitchen and only make babies for Men. This is a women that wants to be dominated by Men, and be put in her place. THIS IS A TRAITOR. I've had very simple disagreements, that I didn't think was a big deal. So, they will say something in a Film or Video Game is sexist, and I will say "I don't agree, and I actually like that design. I actually find that enjoyable". A very simple conversation like that. And that leads these feminists to snap, and fume. They abandon all logic and reason. The problem is, this regressive Left does not want to have conversations. In their mind, their views are 100% moral and just. To even have a conversation about it, is to enable and be evil/immoral. But because they have that mindset, they completely close themselves off to talking to people, that they don't agree with. It becomes this closed off bubble/culture, where they don't want to live side by side, with people they don't agree with. I have literally been called a whore, by actual feminist women. It sounds absurd, but some of the most vile abuse I've gotten, if from fellow women. You would think that, they would be the last person to throw that term around. But the only way for them to reconcile with another women disagreeing with them on something they feel is 100% absolute, is to degrade see us as sub-human. It really hurts me. It's hurt me immensely, in more ways then most would ever know. Wouldn't they want to hear from fellow women? Wouldn't they want other women to speak up, and use their minds and free thinking opinions? Wouldn't they want to hear from fellow women, and hear their experiences, or their view points? And I agree with you. The liberalism I knew growing up, was all about logic/reason. It was about individuality, and personal freedom. It was about living with people that you don't always agree with. Not degrading or labeling someone, just because you don't agree. Being able to work and live side by side with people, that don't always see eye to eye. That as long as someone isn't doing something to hurt someone else, you live and let live (as Rubin always says). That was the liberalism I knew growing up. The Liberalism my parents espoused from their older generation. That is not what I see today. I see (ironically enough), an almost fascist tendency where the ruling majority, is fueled by absolute righteousness, and believes they can justify any behavior, as long as its in the name of progress. A ruling majority, that has no tolerance for dissent (even from their own side). A closed off platform, where there is no debate/discussion about the things they are fighting for. An all or nothing platform, where if you step out of line, you will no longer be good enough for them (and will be labeled an immoral or bad person). This is scary as fuck. Not only that, I see these people actually asking for censorship, wanting the Gov to decide for others what can and can't be said. This bizarre notion that "we have a right to not be offended". They basically have this view that, they want to eliminate anything that they don't agree with. It's not enough to bully people who don't agree with you, they actually want to outright eliminate it. They will not tolerate anything that doesn't jive with their world view, and refuse to live in a world where things exist, they don't agree with. And THAT is what is scary as hell. It's why you have outrage culture, or people creating mobs. It's why someone can make a joke, and then be automatically accused of being a racist/sexist, and if you don't agree that it's offensive, then you too are a sexist/racist. This is something even Liberals should be terrified about. Because while on paper you might agree right now with some things they are fighting for, this kind of behavior is dangerous. And it WILL eventually come for you. Again, I am proof of this. I know so many people that have been attacked by the regressive left. Actual liberals that have been targeted and abused. This isn't just about left vs right, or liberals vs conservative. This is an extremely disturbing movement, that seems to have gotten its hooks into this younger generation as well. Safe spaces, trigger warnings. An open push for Marxist views. Censorship. Banning and eliminating things they don't like (and they get to decide what is worthy of being banned and eliminated). For all their screaming about fighting fascism, they sound more fascist then anyone else. I truly believe, the greatest threat to our country, is the regressive left, and how it's seeded itself into our systems (including the education system). I've seen first hand what this movement is capable of. I've seen how it's completely made these people socially stunted and incapable of being adults, that live in a world where things don't always go there way. It's stripping people away, from being able to handle tough situations. This is actually why I left feminism, because I feel feminism (modern feminism) has been doing this to younger women in large droves. It's actually weakening them, and making them socially/intellectually stunted.
The overall theme of this discussion sounded like the Classic Adage. "When your young your a liberal. As you get older you get more conservative." The link and bridge in America is that so many people are Socially Liberal and Economically Fiscal Conservatives when you break it down issues by issue.
Great guest that is really in tune with himself. I enjoyed his reflection on his ideology, he seemed to question himself as you talked. He is obviously conflicted as a utilitarian, he sees efficiency as a guiding principle versus morality. Fortunately, like Rubin he is empathetic and that goes a long way toward finding a philosophy that doesn't make excuses for degrees of enslavement they are willing to accept.
Great interview. Very thoughtful take on giving that conservatives and even Christians can learn from. Mark is to be applauded for his willingness to listen. I agree that the perceived slant on some Hollywood movies is overblown and most filmmakers are only money driven or telling a story. However, the Hollywood slant that is prevalent is the direction of the awards that are given out. They only go one way. That particular slant is VERY real and mostly political as well as liberal. Very distinct difference.
I have to say I am here because of Marks appearance on Crowder. I enjoyed listening to his ideas and how he frames them. I would point the finger and say I wish more on your side were as eager to listen but I am just as closed minded. My take away is this was a refreshing listen, there was more content that I can agree with than I didn't.. Your mission accomplished.. Thank you!
I got it !!!!!!!!! I FINALLY know who Dave Rubin can have on to make an actual defense of modern liberalism vs meekly apologize for it or try to ignore the differences to find common ground elsewhere (not a bad thing, but not what this show is missing). Thom Hartmann. Dave should try to get Thom Hartmann on the show. He's not only a liberal, but he has clearly delineated reasons for his beliefs that are researched and has concrete reasons why he thinks conservatism and libertarianism are dead ends for society. This is who Dave should reach out to. He'd still be orders of magnitude less shrill than Prager or Horrowitz machine gun attack on the left, but it would be nice, for once, for Rubin to have a guest that made an actual defense of liberalism and a case against conservative/libertarian solutions. Especially surrounding economic policy and healthcare.
I've seen quite a few of Mark's movies, and movies he's starred in. I was pretty drawn in instantly, ESPECIALLY the movie Creep. Awesome to see he's a nice reasonable guy also.
I really liked the discussion on the charitable giving and the talk about finding those small connection points. I remember last year when the Destiny community raised $500K for St. Jude's. It's certain that pretty much everyone there disagrees on something but because of the focus on the game and charity it didn't matter and a lot of good came from it. I think that finding these points of mutual agreement really can propel us all forward and bring about a lot of good.
I think the one thing Duplass is missing is that he talked about the danger of feeling so good about giving that you can end up with nothing. I think that most fiscal conservatives look at our government with all those social programs and say, "Are we giving so much that we are going to be ending with nothing?" So in many ways we have become the national equivalent of his wife saying, "Okay can we slow down a bit." This is compounded because for the most part since the various government budgets are so complicated and direct effects on you are not as easily observable that most people don't really ever think about it. That makes it very easy to not realize the danger of wanting to give to much.
In reference to the implied question from around 1:07:00, if you're looking for that critically-lauded, slice-of-life movie about the struggles of Rust Belt folks, try Winter's Bone.
he took a big dump when he had that twitter war with SJWs about Ben Shapiro. He is the kind of guy who would have folded for the Nazis and other totalitarians...sadly most of us probably would do as Duplas did
While I dislike Mark and his wife's support of Planned Parenthood, I enjoyed this interview, and was very impressed with the progress that he has made in such a short amount of time.
mark i am glad you are willing to share your perspective! would really love more progressives on the show, because i will be honest i dont completely understand the progressive mindset. However i may be able to help you understand the libertarian/objectivist perspective. To answer your two main questions on meals on wheels where you said you would rather make sure the old people are taken care of than to allow it to be voluntary. However you blank out how that money is obtained. Many against government funding of the charity would gladly donate to it. It is the critical difference between voluntary vs involuntary actions. Stealing money from others via taxes to pay to a charity you like for a good cause doesnt change that the act is still evil and only by voluntary benevolence can that action be moral. You touch on this point with the charity work you do. Your actions are exactly the morally correct thing to do. If you see suffering and want to help, help. Dont petition government to steal the money of others. see milton friedman's free to choose series to see real world results of government social programs and its failure to help people it is intended to. we believe in the moral superiority of humans dealing with each other by voluntary consent
Much better than most of the Rubinterviews I've seen lately. Republican voters aren't evil, just misled into voting for nasty stupid people. And the same pretty much goes for Democratic voters, although the bipartisan ignorance of the ongoing climate change crisis is still, just, so disturbing.
Haha. Duplass is clearly so stressed out about having to stretch himself for this conversation but he's putting himself through it. I wish more liberals would do this. And I say this as someone who supported Bernie Sanders in the primary while also having Trump-supporting friends and former co-workers with whom I got along well. It's not that hard to listen. People aren't caricatures. We all just have different viewpoints. And I should add to one thing Duplass mentioned: you don't have to change each other's minds. Actually, I think it's good to accept that you may just have differences.
Problem is Duplass is VERY rich and can afford to give to his hearts content. Theres a whole middle class out there that used to have disposable income thats now living paycheck to paycheck and are dying for a tax break to have the comfort their parents/grandparents had.
christopher hynes He actually gained his success through hard work, not through inheritance or slandering/stepping on others to get it. Yes, he's rich NOW but he didn't start out that way. So what's your point? I'm genuinely asking, not trying to be a dick about it.
No, listen more clearly to what Duplass says. He praises his father and grandfather for their up-from-the-bootstraps success (while admitting that his grandfather probably committed fraud en route, which we're supposed to oppose, btw), but admits that he was born with plenty of financial advantages and has never known class struggle. He may have become *more* wealthy, but it's not as though his economic status depends on his "hard work" rather than his winning the parent lottery.
My point was that he is SO emphatic about the rest of the country getting on board with him in giving to the poor and needy but he doesn’t seem to realize that the middle class is becoming poor and needy. He’s in an echo chamber to an extent-Im not attacking him but he’s worried about Turmp cutting off funding for institutions that don’t need it and diverting the funds to helping the middle class and economy grow. To that, Mark says, OK I just dont think the private sector is going to take up the causes and fund them in place of the govt and to that I said: YOU CANT GIVE WHAT YOU DONT HAVE. The lefts goal is to have a country of 10% super rich and 90% lower class. That will be America’s demise
To be fair, there's plenty of people who win the parent lottery and end up doing nothing with their lives and never living up to the success of their ancestors. Millennials currently earn 20% less income than their parents. At this point, that same privilege lottery really does mean less without the ability to put in hard work and dedication. Nepotism really only goes so far-sure your dad knows the boss of the company you got an internship at but if you can't put in the time, effort, or accrue the proper skill-set you're sent packing just as fast as the rest of 'em. Not bashing my generation either, I think we get too much shit for that kind of thing when most of what I see is people busting their asses to live their dreams or at least experience them while not on the clock.
There's a lot of liberal interests that conservatives are all for. It's just that conservatives don't necessarily want a Government entity to be the spearhead behind it. When the private sector or private citizens are the driving force, you'll find a lot of liberals and conservatives who can live and work together.
Dave, go back and watch your interview with Prager. He started with "My heart is with gay marriage." And concerning the gay couples he and his wife are close to, he said "If I really objected, it would be hard to be that close."
On the supposed "blind spot" on the left concerning support for veterans; There is no such thing. I am not on the left, and I am a Marine veteran who served multiple times in Iraq. And I can tell you that veterans are taken care of more than they really deserve in almost every case. There are tons of veterans who are getting paid for the rest of their life because of supposed disabilities that are completely invisible (PTSD being the big one). Vets are a ton of free health care, they are offered all sorts of benefits like discount house loans, favorable tax status in many states, etc. The GI Bill alone is ridiculously over-generous. They are being treated MORE than fairly. The reason why many veterans do poorly after they leave the military is because the military recruits from the dregs of society. They recruit the guys who get out of high school and don't have better opportunities than to go off and fight in a desert or a few years. If these same people never joined the military, they'd be worse off than they currently are. Veteran services should be scaled back, not raised.
AMEN MAN!!!! A-EFFIN-MEN!!!!!! I wish we could flip a switch and just make everyone alive understand this point you're making in this video.....if only...sigh
there is no such thing as to much ego or self worth until/unless one is a narcissist. Self esteem is but a variable of a much bigger psychological structure.
Great interview. I have a lot of objections to Mark's political leanings, kicking myself, mostly due to knowing how great of a libertarian he could be. At least in practice and in film he is doing a terrific job producing and nurturing young talent.
The point is not that people will give more to charity. With more money available people will be able to help their families friends and, for those that don't have families and friends (few), to charity. Charity should be to the very unfortunate who really don't have anyone left and is not the primary way that people that need help will get it..
Right, for most conservatives I think the ideal progression of help seeking is family -> friends -> community (church etc) -> charity. Charities are important but they should be a last resort, for the neediest of the needy, people should sort their own lives out so that they have a network of people around them to rely on first. Of course it's easier to rely on your network of people when those people are not being taxed into poverty.
From what I saw, the meals on wheels thing is so tiny. It was something like 3% funded federally and that was the cut. The media was trying to make it sound like he was trying to totally defund it.
I loved The League and disagree with the guy on most stuff, but good on him for listening and going this show and Crowder. I know people that work in Hollywood (behind-the-scenes stuff) and the entertainment industry in general is TOTALLY leftist. Tim Kaine actually did some closed door campaigning with big talent agencies during the election. There is no hope for Hollywood. Good talk though.
Having finished this, a few things: 1. The Meals on Wheels threat is basically bullshit. I have no idea when you recorded this, but the total threat to their budget was pretty much insignificant. It was more ginned up outrage, and they've had a record year for donations, likely mostly from Liberals. So, private sector win, driven by public sector enthusiasts. 2. Mark says he wants data when talking about charity / donations. I love that he's trying to find common ground charities as well as identifying blind spots. One of my favorite parts of the interview. That said, there is data, and as a liberal atheist, lets just acknowledge that we don't give shit. That's why those on the left have no faith in private donations, because if it was up to us they would all fail. On a personal note, this is something I want to fix with myself. If I'm lacking in money I can give in time and vice versa. 3. This is a pretty interesting interview because Mark is clearly a person who still has huge blind spots. I was in a similar position not long ago, echo chamber and all. I imagine it's far worse in Hollywood then just being a nobody. I'd love to see where he is in a year or two after trying to actively engage in joint projects between left and right wing ideologues.
Interesting when he said that as an upper middle class person he got to focus on relationships instead of other things. The idea that being poor would somehow put that lower down on the totem pole is just silly. It's an obvious blind spot on his part, probably because he's never lived it and he's so used to the idea that all poor people worry about is money and finding food. As if those needs don't put you in a position where strong relationships are paramount. I mean, Jesus Christ, please read The Grapes of Wrath. He should know better. Anybody who nodded along with that should know better.
7 of 10 Americans have less than $1000 in savings. The economy has serious issues that need fixing, starting with reducing the polarization of wealth in the country. (No, this is not an argument for communism.. it's an argument to give people a chance to make their own lives)
"The economy has serious issues that need fixing, starting with reducing the polarization of wealth in the country." Or making education better in which people are actually taught to discover their talents and teaching other things like how real world works. In current times we are filled with pseudo-intellectuals who are just useless complainers with 0 talents since their creativity has been limited for political and ideological reasons.
No, I feel like most people act like "know it alls" ...unfortunately. Or maybe I've become too cynical and see the majority of people this way. I want to believe that most people will listen and admit they don't have all the answers when having a conversation.
Tons of respect for Mark, willingness to just sit and talk is a rare sight these days.
Wyrmwood I DID RESPECT MARK UNTIL HE TOOK IT AWAY FROM HIMSELF BY KOWTOWING TO THE LIBERAL WAR DOGS.
Yeah, he lost all respect with the Shapiro debacle. Just like the NFL kneeling debacle. No way to win.
There is a concept known as INTELLECTUAL HUMILITY that is lacking in the world today.
Intellectual humility is going into a debate to argue your point that you believe in, but willing to accept that you might actually be wrong by the end of the debate. This is a classic intellectual virtue because it's better to admit being incorrect and take on new information to be better informed, the remain stubborn in ignorance just to "win" an argument.
Abigail Bologa - Here are the Classical Intellectual Virtues:
- Intellectual Love of Knowledge
- Intellectual Firmness
- Intellectual Courage and Caution
- Intellectual Humility
- Intellectual Autonomy
- Intellectual Generosity
- Intellectual Practical Wisdom
The world would be a better (and sane place) if people practiced these more often.
Shick Singh When you believe your self an intellectual even if your a moron but you have 10k followers on the internet that bolsters your ego. How would you ever consider listening to another point of view?
Totally agree. Trying to fix that!
Jason Moler - You are adding in ego which is the opposite of what Intellectual humility is all about. Yes everyone has ego, but when ego prevents you from admitting or accepting you can be wrong and need to update your beliefs, then that is nothing to do with humility at all. It really doesn't matter if you have 10 followers, or 10 million followers telling you how awesome your thoughts are. Humility also demands you accept the possibility that your followers could be wrong as well. The whole point is going into a debate as fallible human being, not a god with all the answers We all have limits to what we know, be we are limitless in learning new things. I hope all this makes sense.
Shick Singh yes it makes perfect sense. However I am speaking more about how the internet and social media has perverted the ability to express humility.
Nice to see people being human. We can all be more humble, patient, and willing to listen.
Loved this so much, Mark seems like a great and genuine guy. Also Creep is really good. Now I like it more. I will go watch it again now. You rock Mark!
Hats off man! Well done. It takes a heck of a lot of character to step outside yourself and do what you did. I’m inspired.
Dave, keep doing what you are doing and it is awesome to hear this kind of conversation.
I really appreciate Mark's openness and humility. I'm going to try to adopt it myself.
I watched after Mark wrote a tweet today suggesting liberals take a look at what Ben Shapiro has to say to get perspective from the right, even if they disagree. Since actual liberals are few and far between, he was attacked by the mob of radicalized leftists instead. Those of us on the right can appreciate the sentiment of listening and thinking, so figured I could at least reciprocate and listen to some of the things he has to say.
What a thoughtful man. I've seen two of his films; Your Sisters Sister & Safety Not Guaranteed. I loved both! He's a gem. I will continue to support his work as much as I can.
Wow...what a well-spoken, well mannered good person. I don't agree with many of his views but the fact that he's willing to listen, debate and move on from disagreements is refreshing.
Gray Geist see I just found been Ben sharpo and I don't agree with him but he is actually bringing up really good point for the right I truly think the extremes are screwing all of us because most people I meet right or left only have a slightly lean not that much
Recently, Mark took a stand in solidarity to have conversations with conservatives, like Ben Shapiro, and he got fiery backlash from the Left on twitter.
He apologized and recanted, damn.
Really appreciate Mark's openness and humility here.
"What do you call people you can't talk to? Enemies."
"I never learned anything from a man who agreed with me."
One can learn a lot from people that agree.
I'm a Bill of Rights "minarchist," but its fantastic that ultimately people can work together, not perfectly, not agreeing on all principles, but work together to achieve goals of commonality! Thanks Mark for the reach, braver than me!
Problem with Alex Jones; He may have ideas in common with Libertarians, getting rid of corruption and also getting sensible gov't vs over-berring gov't etc, and hilighting some truths in history that are hidden. But there is a lot of BS as part of that sandwich! It can be seen as entertainment/comedy as to how bizzare and far-off the theories are, but if mixing that with goals to ahcieve, it doesnt work! The BS theories being addressed towards solving problems, is like seeing a fire in a house, and saying, "lets play a game of basketball," to solve the problem vs actually meeting the obsticle head on and sovling the issue! BS theories and stories are escapism, and escapism contradicts the process of finding solutions to what is real!
This is a conversation with the overall theme of being humble, and learning more about what is the same. Multiple things about this is a great interview.
Hi David,I am watching your Rubin Report frequently and are amazed by what you are doing. In my mind you are changing the world - at least our way of thinking.
Great host, Great guest.
Within this show are the ideas that could get people listening to each other again, and considering the viewpoints of others.
Well Done!
I don't agree with some of his views, but I have immense respect for him. I used to be a liberal Democrat, and I've also worked in the film industry (as a writer). And he's damn lucky, that he hasn't seen the kind of push back from the left, that I and many other liberals have. The Left are vicious, and will attack you at a moments notice for not being "progressive" enough. As a woman, I've found myself disagreeing with social justice friends/colleagues on things they find sexist (or say I should be offended by). I've been called a traitor. I've been accused of wanting to be subservient to men. Basically, I'm not a real woman, if I speak my mind and don't fall in line and agree with everything.
I also know other people, that have taken so much abuse, from fellow liberals for stepping out and disagreeing. And it's not even like we are disagreeing with the majority of what they believe in. We agree on a lot of things. It's not like we have radical views. But simply stepping out from the rest, is enough for those on the Left to attack you, accuse you of being sexist/racist or not being a true liberal. I do not see this anywhere near the rates , with the right. Yeah, both sides have extremist assholes. But there is something going on in the Left, that is scary. An extremist/ regressive left, that has grown in the last 10 years, and high-jacked this party. The problem is the regressive left has these "all or nothing" views. They have absolute, black or white, good or evil views, and there is no middle ground. You are either on their side, or you are not. And when you have this mentality, it makes it far too easy for someone to honestly disagree, say something that offends someone else - and that's it. You are a bad person.
These people are not tolerate of dissenting opinions. If you say something they are offended by, they are not willing to have a conversation about it. They automatically label you and accuse you of being a bad person. I see this all the time with liberals I know, that end up being "marked as damaged goods". They do something or say something, and that's it. They are no longer good enough for this extremist left.
So he's really lucky, that he hasn't had to experience that. I do believe he will, eventually. I'm amazed he hasn't. I think it's probably because he still tows the party line/ideology pretty hard. He hasn't really disagreed with the majority. Regardless, I have so much respect for him, for doing what he does - because it's not easy in the film industry. What he's doing, is not easy in that kind of industry. I've seen it first hand. I've seen people get bullied and ran out of jobs, for doing far less.
Also even if you don't agree with him, the fact that he's willing to have a conversation and listen, is everything. So I respect what he's trying to do.
El A Leftism is a Cult now, unfortunately.
Sorry you had to go through that.
Rensune thanks. It was a rude awakening. I realized that I had no value as person, if I didn't step in line and agree constantly with the Regressive Left. They claim to be pro women, yet there are certain women who speak their mind and don't always agree - and we are no longer real women in their eyes. It's okay to abuse us, and even be sexist towards us. The hypocrisy is astounding.
I recently read about Cassie Jaye and her documentary the Red Pill. And a lot of what she's experiencing, is what I experienced. And keep in mind, I wasn't even asking the questions she was. I was just minding my own business, and every once in a while I would speak up and respectfully disagree. That wasn't good enough. Colleagues, friends, and even family - lashed out at me. Accused me of being sexist. I've even been called a whore by other feminists. For me, what was an eye opener - is the fact that they don't want to discuss anything. They don't want to have a conversation. If you just ask questions, that upsets them. It reminds me of Scientology or some cult. I watched The Red Pill documentary last night, and.again, a lot of behaviors is what I saw. Just simply asking questions, lands you abuse. The fact that they aren't willing to talk about things, that they aren't even willing to talk about questions, tells you everything you need to know about them, and what they believe.
Two of my closest friends, are women that work in Silicon Valley. They voted for Trump, and are terrified that if that ever gets out, they will be fired. And they would be right. We shouldn't have to be scared, just because we don't agree with you. We shouldn't be seen as lesser women (or not real women), just because we don't always agree. The last year has really turned my world upside, and I feel like I no longer belong anywhere. I've found people like Dave Rubin, and I guess I'm starting to make friends with Libertarians, but it's been insane to see the Left become the entity that it has become today. I don't recognize it anymore.
El A So you see where liberalism Leads. It is the natural progression of the ideology. Just as pure conservatism has its own dark and tyrannical ends. But I believe there is hope because most people are somewhere in the middle which is where common sense and decency live. The biggest challenge is to not let either extreme have too much power in which we have failed miserably. The question is how do we get back?
Jason Moler - the problem is when people stop thinking for themselves and rely on "leaders" to think for them. This is true on the right and the left. This is where you stop questioning and rely on faith that these leaders and your group is being truthful and moral. That is DANGEROUS. It turns thoughts into ideology that borderlines religious devotion. When it gets to that level, it's hard for people to admit they were gullible or put their faith in something false. They do all kinds of mental tricks to keep things going. NEVER BLINDLY TRUST. QUESTION EVERYTHING OFTEN. The truth will always stand up to questioning over time.
Shick Singh thanks for the reply. A lot of what you say, is very similar to what I've seen and experienced. Feminism is almost an extremist dogma. Something I've noticed is that, women actually get it worse from feminists than Men. I think it's because with Men, they can just dismiss it as "they are just a Male, and they have privilege and are sexist". Blah blah the patriarchy. It's very easy to handwave Men who don't agree. To belittle them, and make them subhuman almost. But when women disagree with them, something snaps. It's because they can't easily dismiss you, as it makes them hypocrites for doing so. The only way for them to reconcile this in their Brain, is to view you as sub-human. To say - this is a whore. This is a woman who wants to go back in the kitchen and only make babies for Men. This is a women that wants to be dominated by Men, and be put in her place. THIS IS A TRAITOR. I've had very simple disagreements, that I didn't think was a big deal. So, they will say something in a Film or Video Game is sexist, and I will say "I don't agree, and I actually like that design. I actually find that enjoyable". A very simple conversation like that. And that leads these feminists to snap, and fume. They abandon all logic and reason. The problem is, this regressive Left does not want to have conversations.
In their mind, their views are 100% moral and just. To even have a conversation about it, is to enable and be evil/immoral. But because they have that mindset, they completely close themselves off to talking to people, that they don't agree with. It becomes this closed off bubble/culture, where they don't want to live side by side, with people they don't agree with. I have literally been called a whore, by actual feminist women. It sounds absurd, but some of the most vile abuse I've gotten, if from fellow women. You would think that, they would be the last person to throw that term around. But the only way for them to reconcile with another women disagreeing with them on something they feel is 100% absolute, is to degrade see us as sub-human. It really hurts me. It's hurt me immensely, in more ways then most would ever know. Wouldn't they want to hear from fellow women? Wouldn't they want other women to speak up, and use their minds and free thinking opinions? Wouldn't they want to hear from fellow women, and hear their experiences, or their view points?
And I agree with you. The liberalism I knew growing up, was all about logic/reason. It was about individuality, and personal freedom. It was about living with people that you don't always agree with. Not degrading or labeling someone, just because you don't agree. Being able to work and live side by side with people, that don't always see eye to eye. That as long as someone isn't doing something to hurt someone else, you live and let live (as Rubin always says). That was the liberalism I knew growing up. The Liberalism my parents espoused from their older generation.
That is not what I see today. I see (ironically enough), an almost fascist tendency where the ruling majority, is fueled by absolute righteousness, and believes they can justify any behavior, as long as its in the name of progress. A ruling majority, that has no tolerance for dissent (even from their own side). A closed off platform, where there is no debate/discussion about the things they are fighting for. An all or nothing platform, where if you step out of line, you will no longer be good enough for them (and will be labeled an immoral or bad person). This is scary as fuck. Not only that, I see these people actually asking for censorship, wanting the Gov to decide for others what can and can't be said. This bizarre notion that "we have a right to not be offended". They basically have this view that, they want to eliminate anything that they don't agree with. It's not enough to bully people who don't agree with you, they actually want to outright eliminate it. They will not tolerate anything that doesn't jive with their world view, and refuse to live in a world where things exist, they don't agree with. And THAT is what is scary as hell. It's why you have outrage culture, or people creating mobs. It's why someone can make a joke, and then be automatically accused of being a racist/sexist, and if you don't agree that it's offensive, then you too are a sexist/racist.
This is something even Liberals should be terrified about. Because while on paper you might agree right now with some things they are fighting for, this kind of behavior is dangerous. And it WILL eventually come for you. Again, I am proof of this. I know so many people that have been attacked by the regressive left. Actual liberals that have been targeted and abused. This isn't just about left vs right, or liberals vs conservative. This is an extremely disturbing movement, that seems to have gotten its hooks into this younger generation as well. Safe spaces, trigger warnings. An open push for Marxist views. Censorship. Banning and eliminating things they don't like (and they get to decide what is worthy of being banned and eliminated). For all their screaming about fighting fascism, they sound more fascist then anyone else.
I truly believe, the greatest threat to our country, is the regressive left, and how it's seeded itself into our systems (including the education system). I've seen first hand what this movement is capable of. I've seen how it's completely made these people socially stunted and incapable of being adults, that live in a world where things don't always go there way. It's stripping people away, from being able to handle tough situations. This is actually why I left feminism, because I feel feminism (modern feminism) has been doing this to younger women in large droves. It's actually weakening them, and making them socially/intellectually stunted.
The overall theme of this discussion sounded like the Classic Adage. "When your young your a liberal. As you get older you get more conservative." The link and bridge in America is that so many people are Socially Liberal and Economically Fiscal Conservatives when you break it down issues by issue.
I love you Dave Rubin! You are an amazing man.
Great guest that is really in tune with himself. I enjoyed his reflection on his ideology, he seemed to question himself as you talked. He is obviously conflicted as a utilitarian, he sees efficiency as a guiding principle versus morality. Fortunately, like Rubin he is empathetic and that goes a long way toward finding a philosophy that doesn't make excuses for degrees of enslavement they are willing to accept.
What a GREAT interview! I cannot praise both of you enough. You give me hope when so much takes it from me.
Great interview. Very thoughtful take on giving that conservatives and even Christians can learn from. Mark is to be applauded for his willingness to listen. I agree that the perceived slant on some Hollywood movies is overblown and most filmmakers are only money driven or telling a story. However, the Hollywood slant that is prevalent is the direction of the awards that are given out. They only go one way. That particular slant is VERY real and mostly political as well as liberal. Very distinct difference.
I'm so glad mark talked about Hollywood with Rubin.
I have to say I am here because of Marks appearance on Crowder. I enjoyed listening to his ideas and how he frames them. I would point the finger and say I wish more on your side were as eager to listen but I am just as closed minded. My take away is this was a refreshing listen, there was more content that I can agree with than I didn't.. Your mission accomplished.. Thank you!
love that he went with ben shapiro as the conservative recommendation.
Pete! Great conversation, always liked Mark. Dave does such a good job. Every episode is either a 10/10 or 9/10 IMO.
I got it !!!!!!!!! I FINALLY know who Dave Rubin can have on to make an actual defense of modern liberalism vs meekly apologize for it or try to ignore the differences to find common ground elsewhere (not a bad thing, but not what this show is missing).
Thom Hartmann. Dave should try to get Thom Hartmann on the show. He's not only a liberal, but he has clearly delineated reasons for his beliefs that are researched and has concrete reasons why he thinks conservatism and libertarianism are dead ends for society.
This is who Dave should reach out to. He'd still be orders of magnitude less shrill than Prager or Horrowitz machine gun attack on the left, but it would be nice, for once, for Rubin to have a guest that made an actual defense of liberalism and a case against conservative/libertarian solutions. Especially surrounding economic policy and healthcare.
Dave is right about people being right about everything.
You're doing really great work, Mr. Duplass. I hope many on both sides follow your example.
Its great to see someone trying bring the Left and Right together. Politics have gotten so childish in the last few years.
First Step: talk with those on the other side.
Second step: Listen
I think too many people stop at STEP 1.
Too many never make it to step 1.
Shick Singh Too many aren't even willing to Take that step, sadly.
Ain't' that the truth, brother? When winning an argument is more valued than seeking truth and understanding, than all is lost.
Your a fucking white man !!!
something i love about these interviews is that they can go seamlessly from government spending to transformers
Another great one. Keep 'em coming Dave.
Even though I don't agree with his progressive politics, he is building bridges between political parties and that's honorable.
I think that guy has a real gift at reading people
Great comment about people wanting movies about the struggles of young, rust-belt families. There are many ways that people struggle.
I've seen quite a few of Mark's movies, and movies he's starred in. I was pretty drawn in instantly, ESPECIALLY the movie Creep. Awesome to see he's a nice reasonable guy also.
I really liked the discussion on the charitable giving and the talk about finding those small connection points. I remember last year when the Destiny community raised $500K for St. Jude's. It's certain that pretty much everyone there disagrees on something but because of the focus on the game and charity it didn't matter and a lot of good came from it. I think that finding these points of mutual agreement really can propel us all forward and bring about a lot of good.
This guy is doing good work. Great interview.
Good interview. Never heard of Mark Duplass but he seems like a decent fellow.
Great show....reach across aisle...find connections...really like this guy!
Brilliantly said once again David.
Good guy.
Thank you for creating engaging and informative content.
Who would have thought: Just talk to each other and ignore what divides and foster what you can agree on.
I think the one thing Duplass is missing is that he talked about the
danger of feeling so good about giving that you can end up with nothing.
I think that most fiscal conservatives look at our government with all
those social programs and say, "Are we giving so much that we are going
to be ending with nothing?" So in many ways we have become the national
equivalent of his wife saying, "Okay can we slow down a bit."
This is compounded because for the most part since the various government budgets are so complicated and direct effects on you are not as easily observable that most people don't really ever think about it. That makes it very easy to not realize the danger of wanting to give to much.
You're doing good work, Mr. Rubin
Great guy, great interview, this is what we need more of on both sides
Bring back The League!
And this was a really great interview.
Awesome stuff Ruben!
Just saw Duplass on Crowder and had to come back and watch this...
Awesome. love you Dave
Another valuable conversation.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
not gonna lie, hit me right in the feels at the end there. god bless america
What a fantastic, thoroughly enjoyable interview.
Good point in the beginning about Pres. George W. Bush too!
Mark Duplass is bae.
This was great! It would be such a great world if we could all engage in civil dialog..
Mark is a really cool guy. Hey brang to the table, hope that people can become connected and move past identity.
In reference to the implied question from around 1:07:00, if you're looking for that critically-lauded, slice-of-life movie about the struggles of Rust Belt folks, try Winter's Bone.
he took a big dump when he had that twitter war with SJWs about Ben Shapiro. He is the kind of guy who would have folded for the Nazis and other totalitarians...sadly most of us probably would do as Duplas did
While I dislike Mark and his wife's support of Planned Parenthood, I enjoyed this interview, and was very impressed with the progress that he has made in such a short amount of time.
mark i am glad you are willing to share your perspective! would really love more progressives on the show, because i will be honest i dont completely understand the progressive mindset. However i may be able to help you understand the libertarian/objectivist perspective. To answer your two main questions on meals on wheels where you said you would rather make sure the old people are taken care of than to allow it to be voluntary. However you blank out how that money is obtained. Many against government funding of the charity would gladly donate to it. It is the critical difference between voluntary vs involuntary actions. Stealing money from others via taxes to pay to a charity you like for a good cause doesnt change that the act is still evil and only by voluntary benevolence can that action be moral. You touch on this point with the charity work you do. Your actions are exactly the morally correct thing to do. If you see suffering and want to help, help. Dont petition government to steal the money of others. see milton friedman's free to choose series to see real world results of government social programs and its failure to help people it is intended to. we believe in the moral superiority of humans dealing with each other by voluntary consent
Luv Duplass bros. I wish I could afford his outlook.
Much better than most of the Rubinterviews I've seen lately. Republican voters aren't evil, just misled into voting for nasty stupid people. And the same pretty much goes for Democratic voters, although the bipartisan ignorance of the ongoing climate change crisis is still, just, so disturbing.
Might be my favorite one yet
He's a cool dude and this is a great interview, you should have him on again in a couple of months.
Haha. Duplass is clearly so stressed out about having to stretch himself for this conversation but he's putting himself through it. I wish more liberals would do this. And I say this as someone who supported Bernie Sanders in the primary while also having Trump-supporting friends and former co-workers with whom I got along well. It's not that hard to listen. People aren't caricatures. We all just have different viewpoints. And I should add to one thing Duplass mentioned: you don't have to change each other's minds. Actually, I think it's good to accept that you may just have differences.
One of my favorites Rubz!
Good stuff.
I can't wait to see Rand Paul on the show. Make it happen Dave.
Half an hour in and I can tell I probably disagree with this guy on a lot but there's so much potential to learn from him and vice versa.
Dave, Please interview Hamed Abdel-Samad. he's an ex Muslim atheist & an expert on Islam in Europe.
Problem is Duplass is VERY rich and can afford to give to his hearts content. Theres a whole middle class out there that used to have disposable income thats now living paycheck to paycheck and are dying for a tax break to have the comfort their parents/grandparents had.
It's hard and admirable to get rich by your own honest effort. Any idiot can sacrifice for others.
christopher hynes He actually gained his success through hard work, not through inheritance or slandering/stepping on others to get it.
Yes, he's rich NOW but he didn't start out that way.
So what's your point?
I'm genuinely asking, not trying to be a dick about it.
No, listen more clearly to what Duplass says. He praises his father and grandfather for their up-from-the-bootstraps success (while admitting that his grandfather probably committed fraud en route, which we're supposed to oppose, btw), but admits that he was born with plenty of financial advantages and has never known class struggle.
He may have become *more* wealthy, but it's not as though his economic status depends on his "hard work" rather than his winning the parent lottery.
My point was that he is SO emphatic about the rest of the country getting on board with him in giving to the poor and needy but he doesn’t seem to realize that the middle class is becoming poor and needy. He’s in an echo chamber to an extent-Im not attacking him but he’s worried about Turmp cutting off funding for institutions that don’t need it and diverting the funds to helping the middle class and economy grow. To that, Mark says, OK I just dont think the private sector is going to take up the causes and fund them in place of the govt and to that I said: YOU CANT GIVE WHAT YOU DONT HAVE. The lefts goal is to have a country of 10% super rich and 90% lower class. That will be America’s demise
To be fair, there's plenty of people who win the parent lottery and end up doing nothing with their lives and never living up to the success of their ancestors. Millennials currently earn 20% less income than their parents. At this point, that same privilege lottery really does mean less without the ability to put in hard work and dedication. Nepotism really only goes so far-sure your dad knows the boss of the company you got an internship at but if you can't put in the time, effort, or accrue the proper skill-set you're sent packing just as fast as the rest of 'em.
Not bashing my generation either, I think we get too much shit for that kind of thing when most of what I see is people busting their asses to live their dreams or at least experience them while not on the clock.
Dave if you havent please read A Conflict of Visions by Thomas Sowell it sums up your show nicely. enjoy
You have given me something to check out.
The fact that we have to celebrate one liberal being 'open' to merely listening to conservative views proves how irrational the Left has become.
There's a lot of liberal interests that conservatives are all for. It's just that conservatives don't necessarily want a Government entity to be the spearhead behind it. When the private sector or private citizens are the driving force, you'll find a lot of liberals and conservatives who can live and work together.
Dave, go back and watch your interview with Prager. He started with "My heart is with gay marriage." And concerning the gay couples he and his wife are close to, he said "If I really objected, it would be hard to be that close."
On the supposed "blind spot" on the left concerning support for veterans; There is no such thing.
I am not on the left, and I am a Marine veteran who served multiple times in Iraq. And I can tell you that veterans are taken care of more than they really deserve in almost every case. There are tons of veterans who are getting paid for the rest of their life because of supposed disabilities that are completely invisible (PTSD being the big one). Vets are a ton of free health care, they are offered all sorts of benefits like discount house loans, favorable tax status in many states, etc. The GI Bill alone is ridiculously over-generous. They are being treated MORE than fairly.
The reason why many veterans do poorly after they leave the military is because the military recruits from the dregs of society. They recruit the guys who get out of high school and don't have better opportunities than to go off and fight in a desert or a few years. If these same people never joined the military, they'd be worse off than they currently are.
Veteran services should be scaled back, not raised.
AMEN MAN!!!! A-EFFIN-MEN!!!!!! I wish we could flip a switch and just make everyone alive understand this point you're making in this video.....if only...sigh
there is no such thing as to much ego or self worth until/unless one is a narcissist. Self esteem is but a variable of a much bigger psychological structure.
hey Rubin, love the interview but got an off topic question.....what's up with your floor, is it raised under your coffee table? LOL love the show.
51:45 Check out Tim Carney at the Washington Examiner
Great interview. I have a lot of objections to Mark's political leanings, kicking myself, mostly due to knowing how great of a libertarian he could be. At least in practice and in film he is doing a terrific job producing and nurturing young talent.
After watching the Creep movies I just can't look at this dude in a normal light anymore, lol
The point is not that people will give more to charity. With more money available people will be able to help their families friends and, for those that don't have families and friends (few), to charity. Charity should be to the very unfortunate who really don't have anyone left and is not the primary way that people that need help will get it..
Right, for most conservatives I think the ideal progression of help seeking is family -> friends -> community (church etc) -> charity. Charities are important but they should be a last resort, for the neediest of the needy, people should sort their own lives out so that they have a network of people around them to rely on first. Of course it's easier to rely on your network of people when those people are not being taxed into poverty.
Good stuff Dave! I loved this convo
Dave, any plans to get Tulsi Gabbard on the show? She seems like the last sane voice on the left in our government.
Working on it.
She seems great.
Two other politicians to hear from that I'd like to see on the show are Sen. Rand Paul and Rep. Justin Amash.
dave rubin seems like the type of guy who is extra careful around coffee tables.
I have that same Ikea rug.
What an old fashioned attitude: work and drink beer together regardless of beliefs. HERESY!
From what I saw, the meals on wheels thing is so tiny. It was something like 3% funded federally and that was the cut. The media was trying to make it sound like he was trying to totally defund it.
I loved The League and disagree with the guy on most stuff, but good on him for listening and going this show and Crowder. I know people that work in Hollywood (behind-the-scenes stuff) and the entertainment industry in general is TOTALLY leftist. Tim Kaine actually did some closed door campaigning with big talent agencies during the election. There is no hope for Hollywood. Good talk though.
Keith Olbermann is not "starting" to lose his mind.
This is true. He needed to have a mind in the first place.
Having finished this, a few things:
1. The Meals on Wheels threat is basically bullshit. I have no idea when you recorded this, but the total threat to their budget was pretty much insignificant. It was more ginned up outrage, and they've had a record year for donations, likely mostly from Liberals. So, private sector win, driven by public sector enthusiasts.
2. Mark says he wants data when talking about charity / donations. I love that he's trying to find common ground charities as well as identifying blind spots. One of my favorite parts of the interview. That said, there is data, and as a liberal atheist, lets just acknowledge that we don't give shit. That's why those on the left have no faith in private donations, because if it was up to us they would all fail. On a personal note, this is something I want to fix with myself. If I'm lacking in money I can give in time and vice versa.
3. This is a pretty interesting interview because Mark is clearly a person who still has huge blind spots. I was in a similar position not long ago, echo chamber and all. I imagine it's far worse in Hollywood then just being a nobody. I'd love to see where he is in a year or two after trying to actively engage in joint projects between left and right wing ideologues.
Interesting when he said that as an upper middle class person he got to focus on relationships instead of other things. The idea that being poor would somehow put that lower down on the totem pole is just silly. It's an obvious blind spot on his part, probably because he's never lived it and he's so used to the idea that all poor people worry about is money and finding food. As if those needs don't put you in a position where strong relationships are paramount.
I mean, Jesus Christ, please read The Grapes of Wrath. He should know better. Anybody who nodded along with that should know better.
7 of 10 Americans have less than $1000 in savings. The economy has serious issues that need fixing, starting with reducing the polarization of wealth in the country. (No, this is not an argument for communism.. it's an argument to give people a chance to make their own lives)
jetpack42 college is oversold and learning a trade has basically been expelled from public schools
"The economy has serious issues that need fixing, starting with reducing the polarization of wealth in the country."
Or making education better in which people are actually taught to discover their talents and teaching other things like how real world works.
In current times we are filled with pseudo-intellectuals who are just useless complainers with 0 talents since their creativity has been limited for political and ideological reasons.
The Affordable Care Act had how many pages in it? I doubt many folks have read every page.
No, I feel like most people act like "know it alls" ...unfortunately. Or maybe I've become too cynical and see the majority of people this way. I want to believe that most people will listen and admit they don't have all the answers when having a conversation.