Have Video Games been on a Downward Spiral?
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I'm not paying $70 for a video game.
I still can barely stand paying roughly 60 buckaroos.
I remember when $49.99 was the highest and then one day that changed.
ya heard of pc? you can get most games for $00.00 if ya really want to lmfao.
Also GOG aint raisin prices to 70
When in doubt, emulate it out.
I am tryong to survive in the f2p economy. It may be harder to find the good stuff,but with the amount of stuff, tou will stumble across something you like.
@@marcusborderlands6177 Or Switch/PS4 since they've been jailbroken, assuming your morals allow
This is why you support indie games
Indie titles are the future of quality gaming
There is a lot of them on PS Vita
Silksong HYYYPPPPEEE!!!!
Eh....
Most indie games are boring and too short. Not as good as Spiderman PS4 or Bloodborne.
I can see why most indie games are financial failures. Most of them are boring except Cuphead 🤭
Dark Souls is superior
The 00s were the perfect blend of the 80s and 90s "nerd devs" who were experimental and devoted and the modern publishers with their reach, focus, and budget. It helped that video games in general were niche enough to be for the fans first and foremost but popular enough to get some money behind them.
Now, anything AAA is corporate all the way through, and video games are so mainstream the average consumer is easily placated by garbage that hits a few check boxes.
AAA studios would hire these people these days as they have higher tolerance to their bad working conditions
Very true. EA recently bought the developer Codemasters. They made one of my favorite franchises of all time, DiRT Rally. The games were amazing, you could tell that it was a passion project for the devs, the series is attached to Colin McRae's name who was one of the most legendary rally drivers ever. He was practically the embodiment of the sport itself. One of the devs even became a rally driver himself. At the beginning of this month EA and Codemasters released EA WRC, an officially licensed game of the highest level of rally driving. Rally has a rich history full of stories of drivers fighting against each other, the elements, and their own cars. EA made them release a sloppy unfinished mess that doesn't live up to the legacy of their prior releases, and more importantly in my mind, doesn't live up to the fans love of both the games and the sport. I know it's a bit stupid to be really upset about a game being bad, but I don't think I've ever been this disappointed in a game ever. EA finally came for the game I loved the most and sucked the soul out of it.
@@androidhammer5307 I really hate EA for buying out so many studios. I really miss the studios that were around in the 2000s like Midway, Acclaim, Majesco, Nervesoft, and others.
I would largely agree, but one thing I will say:
I have heard some good music composed for video games in the past few years to decade; including those from AAA developers.
That aspect isn’t bad now I would argue, even if the games are underwhelming for what they are priced at.
Local multiplayer was sick. Counterstrike LAN parties were a pain to setup but totally worth it
mane I still remember the good old times at cyber cafe, just us school kids and CS 1.6 to chip the afternoon away. Absolute wonderful times
Why modern AAA games suck:
People keep buying them
@Lilyachty fan account idk - What competition was eaten? You mean console variety?
@Hunter Ansorge - Yeah, I don't get the guy, there's plenty of options to choose from four main platforms, while I consider consoles inferior to PC, you have that option, and Nintendo is it's own thing.
Pokemon in particular has this problem
Despite the continuous growth in not only budget, but team size as well, the game's quality have become shakier and shakier over time
And despite this, despite the overwhelming amount of flaws in the games, people still buy them as if it's the last time they'll ever be able to buy a game ever again
Initially, I was excited for sword and shield, that is until I saw the first screenshots and demos of it (that showcased a very unfinished looking game despite the proximity of the release) and I eventually lost interest entirely, not only in pokemon, but in modern nintendo as a whole, when I heard that pokemon (among others) were just not nearly as technically or mechanically deep as previous games (plus it didn't help it looked like a wii game despite the hardware being at least twice as powerful as the wii) but still sold as well (if not better) than almost any other game in the entire series
All's I'm saying is if a game doesn't look like it'll be as good as you were expecting, don't buy it, your instincts will probably ultimately end up being right
tbh im more into niche shit more (1-100k sub yt channels and rlly good ones)
@@greyhood6015 i don’t think they were talking about consoles..
Your "Everyone's a critic" section can easily be applied to movies.
and music which honestly is the biggest dick measuring contest of them all
And youtube comments
@@AxxLAfriku your channel is boring and annoying
@@chuckhicks7841 no it’s movies
Ouch
I love the subtlety of Emp playing an 8-bit remix of Toxic by Britney spears at 8:25 when talking about playing online.
Oh man. This video didn't just age like fine wine. It became the entire Holy Grail.
Bro it's only been 2 years...
@@myonfriend *gestures wildly at 90% of AAA titles released in the last year*
It aged like wine if you like shitty games
@@thevisi0naryyLike EA and Activision, right?
Many of these games were made by companies founded and ran by people who had real passion for video games. Now the companies making games are ran by people who's only passion is maximizing quarterly earnings. Focus matters.
Id consider this problem #1. Video games always needed to be profitable, but now they need to be EVEN MORE profitable, year after year. Got a guy with passions? Fuck him, get him off the team, we need a yes-man. Look at Cyberpunk, the creators KNEW the game was broken as fuck and nowhere near ready for release. Arguably they were mismanaged if it took 8 damn years to make a finished game but still, back in the day they would just push back release because they wanted to make a good game. But Cyberpunk was profitable before it even hit the market because of the hype. The company literally couldnt care less if it failed. Worse case scenario, they sell the company to fuckin EA for a quarter billion dollars, go home with a cool $5mil bonus, and walk away as the developers get paid dogshit for being part of the "team that bungled Cyberpunk."
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 CD Projekt are one of the few companies with people at the top who are actually passionate about distributing and creating great games... It's like complaining about Rockstar Games. They made a mistake and they acknowledged it and refunded anyone who wanted one. Complain about companies who make the same bullshit game year after year adding little to the product, companies like EA and Activision are the real culprits.
@@ash-vx5bs why are you shifting blame as if people don't blame EA and Activision for their horseshit too? Surely by now you must know that your entire argument is the reason these companies don't give a shit and will release buggy unfinished games because people such as yourself will still defend them because they made a game you loved in the past. Idk how many times I've seen this exact conversation happen and here you are proving that there's no end in sight to fans giving companies passes.
Open your eyes man, Activision and EA and especially blizzard used to make fantastic games until they didn't. We gave them excuses because we didn't want to accept that shits changed and sure enough they abused our trust and loyalty until we ended up at this point where ppl like me have to explain to ppl like you who still try to hold on to hope that the next time will be different. Cdpr is supposed to be different somehow because the witcher was good yet they managed to make the same mistakes as their competitors continue to do to this day and you're giving them a pass bc it was their first time?
Hold them accountable for their bullshit and maybe, just maybe, they won't keep fucking it up over and over in the future. I have zero expectations that it'll ever be great again in gaming anytime soon but giving free passes for bullshit needs to end because it gives them more reason not to do any better.
We're all tired of it man, I basically play single player games or indie stuff these days but I spend 95% less time gaming and it's not because I've grown older but because gaming has gone corporate and it's just the same old recycled shit or just plain bugged out garbage that asks you for money every time you play. It's all remasters too since they're too afraid to take risks on anything new, just like movies. Entertainment in general is just a shitshow and now I realize I'm rambling in frustration so I'm just gonna end this rant here.
@@naps7039 You have to give them the pass. EA, Activision, Blizzard all got the pass the first time bro it's like if Tarantino made a bad movie after Pulp Fiction u wouldn't be like "oh he's shit" you would wait for the next movie. The great filmmakers are all old now and the younger generation of writers/directors make great tv shows. The well never runs dry for great content, there's no need to play/watch new stuff all the time if you want to play/watch great stuff all the time.
@@ash-vx5bs they blatantly lied about the game running surprisingly well on last gen consoles, they knew the game was an unfinished buggy mess that the testers or whatever group they got to play the game before release said the game probably wouldn't be ready until 2022(and that was for pc) and I guarantee you there was some analysts who said ok the game isn't finished but there's so much hype and loyal customers who believe in this company from our witcher series and did the math ending up deciding that there would be more ppl who wouldn't refund than not or maybe they just said fuck it release it anyways.
I mean how are we gonna give them a pass for that? It's like if you are working on a presentation for your job right and that presentation is for a huge client that your business desperately needs and you keep telling your boss yeah its going so good I'm gonna have it finished next week, we're gonna land those clients and you just hype the fuck out of it and your boss says great I will have them fly in next week for your presentation. And when it's presentation time you walk in there drunk with a shit presentation, a bad half assed pitch and your slides don't work so you just wing it and it goes overwhelmingly bad and the clients leave and never want to do business with your company again. Do you think your boss would give you another chance for the next big client? Shit he probably would just fire you.
The way that mess was handled should give you a good indication that they don't care about their fans and customers and this whole debacle was just a test to see how bad it really would be if they did the same shit those other companies do.
I believe it was something like more than half of the original devs from the witcher series already left the company and they just pump out contractors these days so how can we expect for them to not release another buggy mess next time. When long time devs leave the company the same way we've seen at other companies like blizzard, the games end up what they are these days. Soulless cashgrab garbage. I'm glad a lot of ppl are holding these companies accountable and just aren't playing those games anymore because they know it's just a waste of time and money.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong about cdpr but only time will tell. I won't be holding my breath though.
God I just can't say the word "Gamer" unironically
It's always been a simple definition to me that means someone who plays games. I still find the cultural aspects baffling.
@@Retrostar619 Same. The word makes me cringe now. If I heard that word a decade ago however I'd be proud to fit in with at least some kind of group, being a wallflower basically.
*Pathetic and cringy but I just had to say it.* (Edit: removed extra asterisk -_-)
Yea when i say it i say it like "GAmer" but in an anoyying voice
You can do it. I believe in you
But u kinda did tho..
This is why i think that indie games are doing so well, they are just people experimenting and making new experiences
idk why but the characters in these games seems to lose me after undertale came out idk why
Indie games are better bc the devs tend to have more creativity and leeway as their dev time can be anything they want
@@staringcorgi6475and they don't have to worry about crazy rabid fans
@@ghostfacepacifist6046 aaa games don’t have nice fanbases too like the cod fandom is constantly divided in what they want which results in the games being mixed bags
@@ghostfacepacifist6046counterpoint: every indie horror game ever
When you say simple games, I always remember THQ. They always released 7 out of 10 games that I loved. I didn’t need the best games, just a simple fun and they always released one of these.
What could have happened was that we had a middle tier of developers, and those developers either moved to making small mobile games, or grew into larger developers or were bought out.
No knock on simple, fun titles, but in some cases, what really sold the game was the small price it was sold for. A good number of these games weren’t sold for what we would call full price at the time.
the Juiced franchise in particular
And also the rock band trilogy probably one of gamings best trilogys
"The death of local multi-player" felt that one, my little sister decided she wanted to play a game with me, I went searching my collection for something we could play together. I first went for the PS4, because it was the newest, there was nothing to play together, I had to pull out my ps3, a console as old as she is, so we could play a game.
My little brother and I thought we could play local split screen on Black Ops Cold War but apparently Activision didn’t finish it yet, even though there’s literally a split screen tab to click on in the menu. Lazy assholes.
I remember, my 2 brothers and I all had a DS and mario kart. One evening our parents took us to eat at a restaurant and at one point while waiting for them to finish their dessert we went to the game room, we all had our DS with Mario Kart and we started playing, then another kid and his sister entered the room, they also had DSs but only one cartridge for the both of them but it didnt mattered, we could all play together. We spent like an hour on the balloon battle mode duking it out before our parents were done with their meal. Nowadays i dont think i could do that with my switch even on mario kart 8 or mario party, i miss that feeling of "anywhere, anytime with anybody"
Check Rocket League and Gang Beasts
you should try ray man legends
Halo 5 removing split screen entirely made me not want to play it, because for me a significant part of the fun of games is playing with people (I can enjoy games with friends but hate playing them alone)
And if I have to buy TWO copies of a game, and (in the case of Halo 5) a SECOND console to play with my siblings, then I won't enjoy it as much.
Replayability (for me) is also pretty dependant on wether or not I can play with friends, I can play the same game for years and have just as much fun throughout if there's other people, and the easiest way to play with people I enjoy playing with is couch CO-OP.
Going back to Halo as an example, I have played Halos 1 through 4 several times over, going through the campaigns or messing around in Forge/custom gamemodes with my siblings (mostly through split screen), but I played the campaign of 5 once, and then never picked it up again because none of my friends own an Xbox/Halo 5.
Cyberpunk 2077 has made this video even more relevant.
CP2077 isn't exactly the first game to do this kind of bullshit
@@Epii_ I know, but it has been the most high-profile game to do it in recent memory.
Idk man
Super mario odysey, rdr2 and 1, gta 5, uncharted series are very good games from the 2010s era
@@Whaterman1 You're right about those ones, but I think Cyberpunk is the biggest example of one of Emp's points, in that it's a game that was hyped up years before finally being released as a buggy, unfinished mess that immediately drew the ire of its supporters.
@@patrickmoroney2991 it is
I remember the first time I spotted Sonic and the black Knight in a store, and man I really miss spotting games with no expectations and having opinions with my friends because we tought it was the coolest thing ever made.
Since that day, and entering a part of the industry and internet, mann is difficult enjoy something
delusional sonic and secret rings is unplayable garbo
_"As much as Gamers complain and ridicule the games they play, we all know they're going to buy the next one anyway. Even though it seems that everyone hates games these days, people wouldn't get so frustrated that they love video games deep down."_
-Emplemon's Video Games Downward Spiral
aged pretty well tbh
The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. To love or hate something means you care about it enough to warrant a reaction. If you didn't care about something, you wouldn't have any positive or negative feeling towards it.
“Competition breeds innovation”
When you buy out the competition, there’s no need to change and as such the industry stagnates until it eventually dies.
Well competition does breed innovation. But competition is spare and most of my fav games are either older or from indi studios that don't belomg to the publisher-developer-media cartel.
Off topic normie meme thing ir what ever(if you think i am feel free)
Gran turismo fans(gt):o boy i cant wait fot gt sport
Gt sport goses on sale
Gt fans:almost all cars have interiors and online but what about more cars and tracks
Devs of gt:will be added in updates and no dlc
Gt fans:updates what is that no 1000 cars and 100 tracks whaaaaa
Gt7:is new gt4
Gt fans: o boy i cant wait
Gt 7 come out:10/10
Gt8 ends up like gt sport
Thats how is it end up
@@timmteller871 try some nice AAA games that arent cod and shit. Dark souls 3, Metro Exodus, and Deus Ex are fantastic, but people seem to act like there arent any good AAA games that have released in the past 10 years lol.
Not into Dark Souls or other games like it but I loved Metro and I do play lots of "older" AAA games as I said. Like Borderlands 2 or BF3.
I don’t necessarily agree with emp. So many amazing games are coming out in recent years. If I only had access to the 8 to 32 generations I probably wouldn’t like games as much as I do. Most people don’t want to admit this but around 90% of 8 bit games don’t hold up and about 70% of 16 bit aren’t worth playing either
"I don't care how deep a texture is, so long as the game is fun."
-John Romero (Co-Creator of Doom)
"I made Daikatana"
-John Romero (Co-Creator of Doom)
@@iHawke "we don't talk about daikatana"
-everyone
Nice pfp mate
Doom 1 was the peak of John Romero's career. That being said, it lines up with another memorable quote...
"Because if its not fun, why bother?"
-Reggie Fils-Aimé
@@four-en-tee doom 1 shows that a game doesn't need a great story or breathtaking graphics to be good
When winning is the only thing that matters, the experience starts to quickly unravel when you inevitably lose.
The more serious the focus, the less enjoyment exists.
I feel like this is the era of the indie game because while triple A games have been on a downwards spiral I think indie games are finally gaining some momentum.
But once a indie developer acted toward triple A games, the cycle continued.
Most are not good though (but there are so many
@@raskolnikov6443 you have to look for good ones
Yep, unfortunately a lot of the indie devs try to emulate what they see in triple A titles but not nearly as well so it's as void of fun as the triple A stuff but looks worse and feels worse to play. There are some gems out there though that experiment. I personally like Hyper Demon. It's super unique from a visual perspective as far as games these days. And the audio design is amazing. Takes a lot of sifting to find gold though.
The Video game crash of 1983 will probably happen again in the near future. The amount of "trash" being produced is getting higher and higher. Executives want games to come out faster and faster to keep up with the increasing demand, but there is simply not enough programers in the workforce. Only a small fraction of people know how game developemnt works, even less people are good at it. This forces companies to abuse their employees and hire low skilled programers, further damaging the quality of the end product. And this is without the predatory tactics such as microtransactions.
It's so weird hearing his voice coming out of his actual face and not a static image of admiral ackbar
we’ve had face
I had never seen him before, and I always wondered what he looked like. He’s so... average.
It wasn’t him
My god, are we seeing the man behind the downward spiral itself?
I'm not the only one?
"are video games on a downward spiral?"
everyone: you mean triple a games
@Granpda Corey perhaps it is time that changed
@Granpda Corey How do you figure that?
Wait what are triple a games again? I srsy forgot lol
@@Sonimod basically games made by companys rather than indie titles which are still made by companys, but small and they have souls
@@fabric1928 since the general public doesn't care about anything but the big game companies with millions of dollars poured into advertisment of their games
I remember when shovelware was a thing. There were so many random games me and my friends played on DS, 3DS, Wii and Xbox 360 which were mediocre, but enjoyable nonetheless. I think two factors are not to be ignored:
1.) We were kids, as kids, everything is fucking awesome
2.) We had no concept of time and could just grind randomass games for hours.
Actually, Factor #1 isn't 100% true. Remember the movie _Norm of the North_ at least a little bit? If not, Chris Stuckmann said the kids in the theater playing that film *wanted to leave.*
I still have as much time as i want, dont make excuses, games are absolutely shite now, nothing to do with my age at all
Not all shovelware is rubbish as said in the video
Shovelware still exists, it's just on steam now.
I think as you get older you realize it was more for hanging out and gaming with others than it was ever about the games themselves
Damn, he summed up in one sentence what it's taken me years and dozens of new games to figure out lol
Not for everyone I certainly played them for stories and solo fun factor outside of games like halo or lfd2.
Blew my mind on xbone how few games let you play online with a guest or even with a paid account split screen and how few games had local co op.
Damn console makers might want to lobby these developers too preserve co op, like damn why the fuck am I going to buy this console to play together alone and separated with my friends. Might as well just hook up your PC to the TV you can control all your games library and media library with a controller at this point
sounds like a you problem
Depends what game. I personally think video games is one of the most underutilized mediums for telling an amazing story. No other artform can bring you closer to being the character. Spec ops the line, bioshock, halo, and others show how amazing triple a single player games could be
17:21 Oh boy! Back in the early 2010's you couldn't set foot in a game lobby without hearing a litany of AVGN and Zero Punctuation quotes. Those guys never meant to kickstart a wave of gamer cynicism, but they certainly unknowingly poured kerosene on the fire.
AAAAASS!
He’s gonna take you back to the past
Didn't expect to see you here but im glad I did
Also, just a question I need answers for: does James still care about AVGN? or videogames for that matter? I know his main passion is film making and film history itself, that is what he studied for, but is he forcing himself to do AVGN episodes now? I've heard he has writers to make videos about games he never played. I liked the Chex video he made some months ago :(.
hi slap
"Then somewhere along the way, companies figured out how to make players purchase the same game multiple times."
Laughs in pokemon
not really, pokémon was in a civil war abot whether it is good or bad last time i had been a part of it, which was around june 2020
@@Melecie That has nothing to do with the fact that it literally makes 2 of every mainline game to sell the same game multiple times
@@Slenderquil oh. to be fair, i do think that was initially made to encourage trading as since neither player would likely have both versions and/or every pokémon in one version, they'd have to trade to get all of them
@@Melecie I do think that it had good intentions to start, but as the interbet emerged and we got more trade evolutions, the dual release system became less relevant. At this point most of the dual releases just feel like an excuse to have people buy more copies of the same game.
@@Slenderquil it _is_ tradition at this point, however that they turned the second release (crystal, emerald, platinum) into double releases as well (b2w2, usum) could _possibly_ be this
Every time I hear anything about Midnight Club I get so nostalgic... Nobody talks about that game as much as they need to.
You can tell Jimmy Kimmel wasn’t a nerd as a kid, making money kicking a ball is insane to me, but to him that’s normal
Fair
Both regular sports and e-sports involve creating billion dollar industries for grown adults to play the same games that children do for fun. They are equivalent as far as I care.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Both require mastery over your reflexes, both require constant practice to maintain being skilled, and both require intense focus at high level play. Only difference is sports is normalized, but videogames are still somewhat considered to be "nerdy" or "childish"
@@revolverjesus98 exactly.
@@edn2674 Your brain is a muscle just like any other in your body. Stop using it, and your ability to function suffers. Just because it's easier to see how much effort is put in physical sports, that doesn't mean esports aren't easier. Fighting game players have to study every frame data of every character, what moves you can use to exploit gaps in the opponent's moves, mixups, not be predictable, and all on the fly with split-second reaction timing the entire tournament.
"There are PEOPLE watching other people play sports! To me that's ridiulous!"
@@arcadejaguar409 I don't mind esports either. I was just pointing out the how dumb that sentence was. It's dumb to criticize people for watching other play games when no one criticizes people watching sports. Or maybe I took your comment the wrong way. Sorry if I did.
This but unironically
@@Rubberduckie3000 I will say that i've seen traditional sports fans enjoy stuff like i-racing in the case of Nascar fans, so its not that they have a problem with e-sports as a concept.
Boomers just don't understand e-sports that aren't based on established traditional sports (like FPS or fighting games), as well as they don't understand watching people play games in general. They think the e-sport has to be something that can translate 1-to-1 in real world sports, which is just a really silly constraint.
Laura Ponder I agree I don’t mind watching playing games because it interesting there are different genres and they have different reactions but with sports the rules stay the same you can only play them one way one 10 people can play the same game and I would watch all 10 and still be entertained because they have different reactions and commentary
Laura Ponder not to criticize those who watch sports that’s fine do what you want but there are distinct differences between video games and sports
Me: "Oh boy EmpLemon is gonna tear a hole into AAA studios."
EmpLemon: "The Minecraft revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the middle market game industry."
Why does AAA need a hole teared into it? Some of the best games of all time have been AAA of the past 5 years
I actually audibly laughed at this comment.
emplemon is monke confirmed
monke time
I don't understand why he says that about the revolution... I mean, what were its consequences that led to a disaster for the middle market game industry? It just doesn't make sense from my point of view.
"We live in an age of impossible expectations. Everyone wants the best solution in the least ammount of time, and anything less than that is considered a failure"
EmpLemon. 2020.
I’ve been watching your channel for a little bit now. Came for the “never ever” series, stayed for the tf2 songs. When you mentioned that tf2 was your most played games I couldn’t help but smile
The way you realize that you're actually watching a Emplemon video is when NASCAR starts getting talked about.
i like nascar
I have not noticed this
@@sk8terzane818 nascar is neat
I started caring about nascar because of him
What is interesting about watching cars go in circles?
"The harsh reality of online multiplayer is that it is very impersonal." This isn't necessarily the case for online multiplayer, and more about matchmaking. Dedicated servers used to build communities, so even if people in there were strangers at first, they quickly became people who knew. Nowadays with matchmaking, anyone you play with is a person you will likely never meet again.
I think apps like discord are very helpful for the impersonal issue
That's part of why most of my online gaming these days is in garry's mod. It helps me to connect with my friends, especially since I've been stuck in my home for the last six months.
yo cabal wassap its mac, also I agree
Even on bigger more recent games like overwatch, i remember seeing certain players multiple times over the course of a few months
@@wsmith7918 overwatch was great when it began it was just simple quickplay fun with my friends. the best moments were 6v6ing another group of friends then making friends with them through a party. it got so competitive so quick though and thats why i left
Back then I remember it was hard chosing which game buy because almost everything was such a good game. Now I have problems chosing too but this time is about deciding which game isn't crappy or even if it actually works as intended
lol right there litterally NOTHING to play now
“You’re giving up Raid Shadow Legends”
I see this as an epic win
"Minecrafts cousin..."
Me: Ah yes terraria
"Roblox"
*cries in 2D*
I was so confused whrn be said Roblox lol
@Granpda Corey Yeah, roblox users maybe greedy but fuuck the roblox company has made 4 billion dollars from the revenue their userbase provides
While its true that roblox had more creative potential and tools, but the decisions that roblox took and the censor of the players made terraria the brother of minecraft, so yeah, roblox is that weird cousin.
@@menacingreferencedogge9032 What are you talking about? ROBLOX is a MMORPG built for children. Of course it's going to have rules. What are you talking about when you say "censor"?
@@EMOTIONOGRAPHY you can literally have problems communicating with other players because the censor system picks up everything as vulgar. i hated those hash tags
My main gripe against modern games is the fact that a lot of times they are just not designed to end. You play it until you can't force yourself anymore and then looking back at the game there is no real satisfaction or nostalgia. My favorite games of all time have been games that I can look back on and think "wow I loved that game so much". Chrono Trigger, earthbound, mother 3, escape from monkey Island, etc. Its better to be sad that a game has reached its end then to be happy that you finally left the game.
Thank you for being an original person. Good comment.
to be honest i think thats a lot down to gamers, any AAA game that falls in under 60 hours of gameplay and infinite endgame just gets met with derision for not having 'enough content' - just cue the angry joe clips
that's why i really wish we had more games like shadows of mordor, the story is ok but everyone gets their own randomly generated enemies and the randomness combind with the nemesis system means you can make ur own story and extends the gameplay beyond just boring quests. orc tries to kill you because u killed his brother gets killed comes back to life goes mad and is now your new insane bodyguard.
nowadays seems like the closest thing we'd get is multiplayer padding or roguelites
I wanna take some time and analyze this some, not this comment particularly, just the sentiment. it's gonna be long so don't read this if you don't wanna discuss this.:
I believe that immersion can be broken up into two categories, and games usually fall into one of those two catagories.: Narrative Immersion and Mechanical Immersion. Individual players will usually favor games and franchises that have a focus on one of these types of immersion with breaks to experience the other type of immersion.
Narrative immersion is fairly obvious, they're games that have a focus on being an interactive story, and they'll emphasize as much. Starting the game up and losing yourself in a world and universe of good characters, writing, events and intrigue that, are more reminiscent of the joys of a good book. Games that really cater to the audience with this interest are games like Monkey Island, Sam and Max, Grim Fandango, and Maniac Mansion. A lot of point and click adventures fall into this catagory, but aren't stereotypical for narrative immersion as a whole, after all we have games like Bioshock(1,2, and Infinite), Assassin's Creed(1-3), and World of Warcraft that worked really well within this framework. Another genre that falls into this catagory has the fairly unkind description(as Ahoy has mentioned) of Walking Simulators.
Mechanical Immersion is one that isn't as obvious in it's description but _is_ obvious in it's experience. Games that have engaging mechanics and gameplay but with less emphasis on story. Games like these are good at replicating what's called the Flow State. That experience that every player has gone through of playing so well yet being challenged enough, that in your mind the controls just melt away, the moment the world around you fades and the game becomes an experience in of itself, and the experience just comes naturally to you. Excellent examples of this are Guitar Hero, DDR, Rock Band, DOOM, Battlefield, CoD, Twisted Metal, Forza, Mario Kart, and Crash Team Racing amongst a plethora of others. This is where I prefer to hang my hat.
Games that have an end are easier to have an appreciation for, and are more likely to be remembered as works of art, just as we've seen with books. I feel that for a game to not have an end, it must deliver on a good mechanical immersion in order to ensure it's survival and/or be remembered fondly(weirdly enough, Quake has done this.). Narrative immersion would be impossible to achieve if there is no end to the game, because *ALL* stories must come to an end. it's just that in regard to multiplayer games, a lot of the business models we've seen implemented over the last decade or so have watered down the experience as a whole, making mechanical immersion much harder to achieve.
Yeah the fact a lot of modern multiplayer games have “seasons” where content can only be obtained once in the games life and never again forced me to grind for something I didn’t wanna grind for. I’m glad I stopped playing CTR Nitro Fueled
Honestly my favorite games in the last decade have all been single player RPG's and local multiplayer games I can play with friends. They straight up are the greatest. I stream too, but I'm always in it for the fun. If I'm not having fun, I'm out.
Amazing. You’re winning at life!!
I've watched the entire history of modern videogames in my lifetime.
It began with the "Graphics Wars" when advertising started convincing young, inexperienced gamers that better graphics=better games. The quality of the design of games started slowly slipping and although a few games managed to pull through and bring graphics+gameplay, but most games started to become 1-play and then shelved forever interactive movies.
It got worse when DLC arrived. People were excited to get more content from their favorite games, but it was all an excuse to charge more money for less work and release unfinished products. After that, monetizing upgrades and skins became more common and we continued crashing downhill.
Imo, Nintendo is the company that has taken the least of these horrible ideas as far as the other companies, but Nintendo has it's own share of unique issues mainly falling under the category "Give people everything but what they ask for."
Stop buying new games, let the industry die, and wait for the next renaissance. Fkn control yourselves or it will NEVER improve.
I dunno, 2020 gave us "Mr. Krabs overdoses on ketemine and dies." So I think that says something.
Indie games are great but kickstarter games always get the harsh treatment
@@staringcorgi6475 I just miss my star wars battlefront 2.
@@staringcorgi6475 I just pray and hope that melee gets a better adaptation. I have some good homeboys I need to work up to the challenge. Just rise up to the streets, got the guts, and got the glory.
pc is truly the master race due to modding content and good communities and lots more indie games
and house of caravans or whatever its called
"Gamers don't know what they want"
Man... that needs to be its own video.
Well do you really want that?
@@linuszarrouk2004 I do, but I... wait... You can't-
MY BRAIN!
It would be a very short video. Here's the script:
"Gamers as a whole are a diverse group of individuals with many differing interests and desires. To try and find what 'gamers' as a whole think would be like trying to find consensus about religion or taxes."
@@TheAweDude1 Yeah, there are tons of games genre out there. Some people like it some don't.
It's unfair to use gamers in a general sense to make an opinion or a design choice of a game. Every gamer knows exactly what they want. I know what I want and what I want gaming culture to be. The thing is, not everyone wants the same thing, and some things people want contradicts with other gamers.
4:28 I'd also just like to point out that Nascar Racing 2003 Season still has an active community of modders and players, even almost 20 years later because it's so timeless, so eat shit EA.
Holy crap hearing the minecraft music just gave me good flashback and made me shed a tear.
>Destroy all humans
>"Shovelware"
bruh
Dr.Sir Bruce Armstrong Mother Fucker The Third whut about deadly creatures? That was cool
Bruh i saw deBlob in there too, like wtf that game was fantastic
And Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing. That and its sequel are arguably the two best kart racers of all time that don't have "Mario" in the title.
How tf was Drawn to Life lumped in there
He used a stock image. It’s not his actual opinion.
"if you already have a library of games you enjoy playing, why would you go out and buy a new one that you probably wouldn't even like?"
steam sales.
correct.
GABEN CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Fun fact; don't remember the exact statistics but like. 60%+ of sales on steam happen during sales lmao.
Well, because I cant play the same game for more than 2 Weeks at best? It's truly frustrating but for me it's not just with videogames, it's literally everything.
And then most of those games never see play and waste away in an endless library of backlogs.
I think there are a ton of problems with the modern triple-A scene. In particular, it feels like having so many resources at your disposal and a fanbase that buys what you put out has led to a decrease in creativity, as the most creative games and mechanics are usually born out of the boundaries you have to work around, or the pressure to put out something people will play.
That being said, it's important to remember that when we look back at earlier decades we're only really remembering and playing the best games that came out. With the benefit of time, we can now just cherrypick the greatest titles of a console generation, which have had years to build up passionate fandoms and reputations. At the end of the day, the broken new sports games and mediocre triple-A titles will end up being forgotten, and people may look back at the 2010s more positively now that they can search out and play the best games they had to offer.
I think Skyrim, GTA V, the Dark Souls series, Portal 2 and Zelda BOTW will be what is remembered of the 2010’s.
@@Exeggutor_Enjoyer I think the point is that even forgettable titles used to be at least decent and often times well above average. Think about the entire sports licensed genre.
Two things are simultaneously true. Capitalism is methodically destroying the escapism that people use to escape capitalism. And people still want to have fun without having to think about capitalism.
I’d also say that it was far rarer for a “good” game to be entirely corrupted or otherwise ruined by certain practices such as microtrans, glitches, pay to win, false marketing, lack of campaign, lack of local co op, license monopolies, overpatching, sequel fatigue, political correctness saturation/sjw themes, unfinished games, and the like.
@@ethanstump I don't think most of the game developers that put out garbage are capitalists.
We live in a time where Elden Ring and Armored Core 6 exists alongside Gollum.
We lived in a time where Jak 2 and Knights of the Old Republic existed alongside Devil May Cry 2, what’s your point
"I've never played a single Anime related game in my entire life"
"Pokemon Go was the most fun i've had in any game in the past decade"
lmao
I don’t get what he meant by “never played a game in the genre” like wtf kind of genre was YandereSim even meant to be??
@@chickeninasweater4109 Bugs
shit that reminded me of sometime over 10 years ago when me and buddies were arguing if pokemon is an anime or not. they said it wasnt, I said it was.
I think their logic had something to do with either mouth/eye ratio or just because they liked it and didnt want to think about it as anime because anime equals bad.
@@KossolaxtheForesworn what kind of reasoning is that
I like how when emplemon started talking about toxicity in multiplayer games, the music that was playing was (what seemed) like an 8-bit remix of toxic by britney spears. Interesting.
it totally was that 😀
No, it's a theme from TMNT games from back in the 90's I think
There was also a part when the video starts playing a 8-bit version of Billie Jean
incroyable
It is, his music list called it literally that pretty much.
I wish a game developer would start up a company and just do what is right, in line with this video
Devolver digital. They are the antithesis to large publishers. If you dont believe me, watch their 2019 e3 show where they parodied all the other publishers.
@@mattsterh7740 they even criticize themselves and not recommend working with publisher
People are lazy and have no inspiration man.
Besides, not everyone can even play if it isn't avaliable on their platform.
Valve and Rockstar are triple AAA companies that innovate and push boundaries with every release.
Also their games are very polished on launch too.
> "if you released a broken game 20 years ago people just wouldn't buy it"
Except yes they would, because review culture was non-existent and customer information was sparse - if you wanted to know what to buy you first had to buy a magazine.
ya like as a kid I bought bubsy 3d for the PS1 because I had no idea what it was like but thought the character looked cool. Turns out the game was utter garbage. Not like I had much of a good way to find that out back then.
he means that most people wouldn't buy it making the game a failure
I was a magazine kid I remember reading Club Nintendo in Venezuela all the time
It would get refunded and their next game probably would get less interest
People werent that dumb
it wouldn't typically garner a huge audience is the major difference. You didn't see big rigs flying off the shelves, but if it were released now on mobile, it'd probably make a good sum.
There is no online championship that will ever feel as rewarding as beating your friend next to you on the couch in smash after they taunted/ made a snarky comment.
@Shaman Xeed ok
@Shaman Xeed Bruh, I get what you're saying but you didn't have to put in "casual normie" or make a huge rant over how the hardcore minority is being "oppressed" cause these days, I feel that companies are catering more to you guys recently anyway. Unless this is a joke cause this seems to go way over the top, lol.
@Shaman Xeed you had me in the first half not gonna lie
Thats why there are smash locals
Everybody hates online smash
A game known as Weird West has been a diamond in the rough, a very unexpected and fun experience. It is not often one clocks 6 hours into an unfamiliar IP these days
This is why I like retro games.
"Despite having the potential to connect us with an infinite number of people, online multiplayer has left us feeling more isolated than ever." That reminded me the time you said . They really seem related to each other.
Problems will always exist, they're just different every time.
A true utopia is impossible to achieve.
I read this comment as he was saying it
@@antonioklaic4839 I kinda agree. That's because, from my point of view, humans aren't flawless by any means. All things that we do tend to turn badly and/or have negative effects.
@Supreme Person thanks
You definitely deserve the 200 likes. Who do you trust when there's 8 billion voices?
"it is absolutely vital that we dissect the socio economic themes of Shrek Swamp Kart" lmao
Ogres these days cannot afford their own swamps.
Ogres have layers.
For some reason, I remembered that journalists where comparing Orcs to people of color. In both dungeon and dragons and lord of the rings. I think that those journalists must have a very racist vision of Africans...
@@TomyDayos They're idiots then, and what they say doesn't matter (I mean, it does because yeah it's racist, and also doesn't because they and their opinion are all inane af)... -_-
Also, aren't Orcs and Ogres different creatures? They're not the same thing.
@@aevvah_flxwer8550 I completely agree with you. And yes, they are different. I was just telling something that I remembered. Maybe it's because orcs and ogrees are allies in warcraft... I dunno...
I like how out of all the examples given in the beginning, only Call of Duty and Half Life have rebounded (if you can call a single VR game after a decade of silence "rebounding" that is).
Call of duty is still the fifa of fps games they get away with reskinning same game since cod mw 2019 kinda like what they did with cod mw2 when mw3 ripped it off
One thing I really hate is that modern games just seem way too competitive. Back in the day you had games like Guitar Hero 3, Halo 3, or Roller Coaster Tycoon. It was so great to get home from school and unwind by playing some TDM on Halo, or inviting your friends to come over to play Guitar Hero.
Nowadays, it seems that the goal is to aggressively compete (or pay) to be the best of the best. It doesn't seem fun to have to grind hard and feel the pressure to impress the people on your Twitch stream or get on the worldwide leaderboard of some game.
As someone who is in AAA production rn, the major thing compared to the past is that everything is researched and target audience focus groupped to hell and back, because that’s what investors like. Game dev used to be cheaper but due to games like GTAV getting massive revenue streams games suddenly mr business is really interested in making games but they need charts and research that shows games will be profitable. Basically risks can cost you money and people are not as likely to take risks with how much it costs to make an Aaa game
Stop making shit
>AAA Production
>Adventure time picture
@@unkono Hmm yes, people that have jobs aren't allowed to like things
Which is a catch 22 since too often them playing it safe cost them billions trying to make millions. Investors are idiots when they don't really know about what they're getting into without people playing it safe about the people playing it safe. I've noticed this when the Shovelware started to be "normal"
@@thotslayer9914 Ah I figure, I'm just joshin' him
This video pretty much answers why older games are increasing in price and why indie games/developers are getting more attention/respect these days.
Indie games are amazing
Indie games is where the old "Middle Simple Games" migrated to after the major companies dropped them.
Nah even if this was gaming best era nostalgia would still make old games expensive at a certain point
It's also funny how backwards compatability is now a major selling point of modern consoles, buy the new Xbox, to play the games you had on the old one with better graphics and performance. It's nice, but it's like putting an old engine in a brand new race car because the newer engines are too much of a headache to want to use. I should want to play the latest games on my new console, but I don't. That's a problem.
@@diegov1743 Plus there are only so many NIB copies of any game, especially ones stored with the right level of care to appeal to collectors, and that number only decreases over time. Scarcity is a pretty effective market force, especially when it's not artificial.
Oh my.. Nascar Thunder 2004.. the first ever Nascar game I played and fell in love with. Put many hours into that game and no other Nascar game has given me the same amount of joy.
When I think about my favorite gaming memories they are almost always with other people. Even the hot mess that is the first Ninja Turtles game (NES) was fun to play because I had 3 other friends fighting the foot clan with me. Single player games like Half-Life were still fun because they were so good they attracted my friends over to come see what the fuss was about. Now? Games take themselves too seriously, are littered with bugs and micro transactions, don’t focus on why the game should be fun but rather go through checkboxes of what they think gamers expect and publishers want. Online Multiplayer isn’t about getting friends together, it’s about out-purchasing the other guy so you can have an unfair advantage. They all forget that games are first and foremost supposed to be FUN, and preferably shared with those we care about.
“You’re giving up seamless dlc and patches” well they used to sell finished games back in the early 2000s so these weren’t always necessary
You forgot about expansion packs, and patched editions?
They couldn't sell downloadable content back then because it was harder to distribute anything online
those horrible game devs. Giving consumers a full game and then adding more content later is HORRIBLE
@@ubt__________ did you read the comment?
@@ubt__________ "Giving consumers a half-baked game then selling them the solution is GREAT" FTFY, you corporate shill
Meh, I remember having to return to the store I bought a game from because it had a game breaking bug just to get it replaced with a fixed version. and then there are many games that have massive amount of bugs that could never be fixed because there was no way to patch them. You can keep that crap.
Just because a game has DLC doesn't means it's not finished.
"Simple" games still exist, the Indie market is better than ever
@h_grunt Grow up, pick up a football.
I agree. For instance a game I have played for so many hours is kerbal space program. Its a simple physics sandbox where you make spaceships and explore the solar system or you can do whatever you want. Its this open ended concept that keeps the game exciting with a simple loop of design, test, rework, and complete the mission.
@@elnacho8700 Stop playing vidja games and start playing egg ball games. Fantasy football = DnD for jocks.
yeah i've spent countless hours just playing small indie games. you should see my itch.io library.
@@elnacho8700 New thing bad, old thing good
Video games used to be my oasis because I used to get bullied, rejected, ridiculed, unpopular, and get into trouble a lot back in school and felt miserable and stressful, nowadays both "gamers" and developer are becoming even more miserable than I was and beginning to find some different alternative to keep me entertained by watching a lot of anime and play video games on a rare occasion
shits going to get a lot worse might as well do what you want regardless of what everyone else thinks
I feel like a good example of a unique game truly shining is The Stanley Parable. It was something completely on it's own, different from the rest, yet still amazing.
“Raid shadow legends”😂😂 gets me every time
I have mad respect for you as someone who has played Midnight club 3: Dub edition
That game is pay to win
@@jamal3773 every one who has used the internet knows
@@Bedhed47 that game was the best
It came out of nowhere lol
Downward Spirals are like waterslides.
If a cartridge touches water it breaks instantly.
These are all good points, though I constantly thought about Josh Strife Hayes's comment on people criticizing new MMOs for not being as good: The games overall haven't gotten worse; it's your lifestyle that has changed.
Nostalgia is powerful, sometimes to our own detriment. Desiring to have it back leads to going back towards the original games, no matter how bad they themselves are or how much of a pain they are to play in a modern era. It's also why we criticize games for "not being good enough" when they do what they can in their category.
As good as the old moment is, there is a need to move on. There are plenty of indies or other studios out there, and some bigger companies want to explore on what they can accomplish or learn--take risks. If they're criticized for "not being big enough" just for not exceeding what was advertised, you will not get your "big enough" game.
these are all good points, but im going to parrot what another youtuber said because i cant think for myself
A majority of this was still my own wording, including nostalgia.
I agree with this to an extent but I am young and I legitimately enjoy many games from before my time.
I didn't own a console till I was a teenager and I am very selective over what games I buy.
So why is it that even those of us without nostalgia end up preferring older titles?
Been meaning to come back to this; there is a lot more to it than just nostalgia. Sometimes it's just their design that works. This is all okay.
I think reframing when nostalgia is too much; that is, to ignore the existence of anything new because it's "not like game x" (be that indie titles or big releases); would still help this fit though. Perhaps I did take this into account and never wrote it.
I come back to this video again and again and I always take a slightly different view of videogames after watching it.
Thanks for the great content as always Emp.
"Barely Promoted"
>Fortnite
Nope. That game was HEAVILY promoted, it's just the "Battle Royal" mode that's famous, that didn't get promoted. I was actually excited for Fortnite Save the World and that too, was a total disappointment.
Really was man. Really repetitive game cycle, which became a chore to play.
@@louiscrabbmarche It was originally supposed to be a $60 pay to play for the full shebang with no MTX, a mix of Borderlands meets Left 4 Dead with a basic base building system, or at least, that's what it was FIRST advertised as, and it was going to be great. Then they started talking about making it free to play so they added the loot llamas and boatloads of MTX, then it was going to be free to play when it "released properly" with the founders' pack to become a beta player which is when they added mission grinding, and then it just never released properly.
The only reason STW was 'disappointing" to many of us was because it was conceived and released too late, announced too early, and has 3 core flaws, the repetitive gameplay cycle and the fact the game had players was that is was associated with battle royale, doesn't help the fact had an awful implementation of micro transactions in a paid early access, slow and lacking updates. I think STW could've been a decent game if they focused on it more earlier in its life.
I got access to the closed beta I think 4 years ago. I thought the game was pretty fun. And then, when the full game released, it was pretty fun. Then I got locked out of playing the game because the que for battle royals was full. Never played it since.
I just hate when I say "I like Fortnite" I would get death threats and insulted everytime and yes do l do like Fortnite and Season 4 is epic
Current games aren't games. They're online services.
I suppose it depends on how u look at it since i see a lot of really great games thst are underlooked
@@sephirothone-wingedangel6484 DOOM Eternal is a fantastic game.
@@spyderhuntz yea ik,there are a lot that are amazing games that i found like nier and yakuza
@@sephirothone-wingedangel6484 sure, but I believe DOOM Eternal was one the best games we’ve had in recent memory. It innovated after DOOM 2016, it brought back that 90’s DOOM feeling and made it work in the modern day, and most importantly it was just pure fun from beginning to end.
@@spyderhuntz I prefer outer wilds (it’s completely different from the outer worlds)
Social media has ruined humanity
Mass debate with strangers on the bus 👌👌
Nah the industrial revolution did
@@wanderingwobb6300 rubber lamp, a G knee will come out
Great vid! Regarding content saturation, I would've also mentioned the rise of digital distribution. In the days before Steam, GOG, the PS Marketplace, etc.; buying a new video game was an event. It was something you could genuinely get excited about. And, even though sites like EBay and Amazon already existed 20 years ago, you still needed to wait at least four days for your game to arrive in the mail (we didn't have Prime Shipping yet). Today, with so many classic and even modern games available for immediate purchase and download with just the click of a button (plus, the way games CONSTANTLY go on sale), buying a new video game doesn't seem like much of an event anymore. Instead, video games have become just another thing we horde, like books or clothes. I feel that has also contributed to gaming becoming less fun throughout the late-2000's and 2010's.
Something that I think is important to note here is that gamers themselves have gotten older. Escapism is to a kid like what water is to a fish. Now it's something to just keep us happy as we work through our lives. Of course we'd hold it to a higher standard we can project our discontent on to.
@@thotslayer9914 this generation is fucking ridiculous. I just want to play video games.
Make America communist to starve and completely make people hate the idea of going out of the way to learn to get better jobs which require higher intelligence and effort since everyone will get the same.
I'm not saying capitalism is perfect, definitely has some *major* flaws, but sure is better than communism.
Also tell me if I'm wrong but, last time I checked, it has never been scientifically proven that video games affect the brain.
@@thotslayer9914 Stupid ideology.
@@Surteronarto wow, what nonsense
@@HelghastStalker Exactly, you want to live in an anarchist society? Great go live in a post nuclear wasteland as a scavenger.
The costs associated with the high end graphical fidelity are exponential in accordance with gameplay development linear increases. This is because innovative programmatic enhancements only require a few new developers, while the exponential increase in graphical fidelity requires gobs of artists to develop the content for the game. To address this, some have turned to procedural generation, but that certainly has its limitations. It turns out that people just want to play fun games and not have to pay endless microtransactions to unlock nonsense or get advantages.
Ah yes of course
I just can’t wait for developers and big corporations to realize that just making a really good game is usually enough
another thing is that code gets exponentially harder to create and debug the more you have, and developers become linearly less productive the more you hire. This means as scope increases, a disproportionately high amount of devs are needed since work gets harder and devs less productive.
Hey, aren't you the guy who made TheMostAmazingWebsiteOnTheInternet?
@@MrEpic-qe2tt Hey, I am that guy. Howdy.
I went to a local hockey game once and they were running constant Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III ads on the jumbo-tron. This combined with the fact that the demographic of this stadium - and, id argue, a majority of people who watch hockey - had never heard of CoD made me realize how close the industry is to the bottom of the barrel.
Remember, dev’s didn’t ruin gaming, execs did
he knows that aaa devs hate their games
Just believe in the sage words of Macho Man Randy Savage: "The cream will rise to the top."
"OHHHHH YEEEEEEAHHH!!!"
And let me POINT. To the PRESIDENT. Of the Woorld Wrestling Federation--yeah.
FACK Macho Man; all intelligent american know dat Iron Shiek is REAL champwon; AAU champwon, oleempic gold medal; I will put Macho Man in de camel clutch, break his back, make him HUM-bell.
@@toby2581 this is false; there is just as much cream as there ever was; there is simply more junk it must rise above.
I feel like there is no formula to make a great game, but if someone makes a great game, they'll know
It boggles my mind how, for the same amount of memory it takes to download a patch for a broken, rushed videogame today, I could download countless of the best videogames of all time from the 90's and 00's.
That is why I stopped buying new games when they came on DVD. There is far too much space the designers just fill it with crap. Even a CD is a bit large, but a least 650MB concentrates the programmers mind a bit. Upscaled on a modern PC, PSX games are brilliant but Mega Drive is even better.
Right. What bloats game size are image files. The higher quality image, and more varied the textures, means you have to dedicate more and more storage as graphics get better and better. A game that can clever reuse textures will be smaller than a game that has different biomes and environments each with their own textures.
Retro-gaming is also a much more fun community.
@@FrankiieeC93 LMAO this is just bad reasoning
Graphics and nothing else
Video games aren't games anymore, they're giant black holes to suck out all your time and money because you're not a customer anymore, you're cow to be milked dry. I haven't played a video game in six months. I got sick of video games having ZERO respect for my time and money.
It is not just gaming thats declining, it's everything. Our entire civilization is rushing to the bottom. You can see this in the arts, architechture, litterature, music and etc.
On a large scale, I would be inclined to agree. But good art is still out there, you just have to look harder and often turn away from big companies and known names.
"nobody ever makes a video about a game being decently adequate"
Bro, watch Whitelight
Never heard of him, which proves Emp's point.
and don't forget Minimme
ps: after I think about it, Minimme talks about older games which just reinforces what Emp said about "old games are more fun" thing
Another great channel is Running Shine. They're a great example of what Emp was talking about too. Their YIIK video is by far their most popular video because it was a new release at the time that didn't live up to hype and it was trendy to shit on it. Although I think it's a great video, it's a crime how underrated their other stuff is in comparison because there's a real authenticity to hearing them talk about the games they had enjoyed from their childhoods. Goes to show what people want in game reviews. Also, I am referring to Running Shine as "them" because multiple people work on the videos.
@@thebigshot3082 ignoring information doesn't proves a point it just ignores another one. Also he's actually pretty popular just because it's not what you see doesn't mean it doesn't exist
@@thebigshot3082 You really should man. He's possibly the best TH-camr in the entire galaxy.
checking your friends list and seeing your friends who havent logged in since 2012 is the zoomer equivalent of getting old and watching all your friends die
This is not wrong. The feels
"yea bro you cool man, we play tomorrow night" 11th of january, 2013. my niga dead lol
Unrelated to the video
What does that have to do with _this_ ?
Change 2012 to 2017 and that's my steam friends list.
I remember the first time you got victory lane celebrations in Nascar Thunder 2003 I think; I was absolutely BLOWN AWAY. Crazy to think they haven’t been able to replicate that feeling with any sort of console racing game.
MX Unleashed, Twisted Metal, Tenchu, Star Wars Battlefront, NASCAR Thunder, so many classics… what happened?
"People are looking for the best solution in the least amount of time, and anything less in considered a failure"
Speedrunners: Is that supposed to be a revelation?
As I dont disagree that local is more or less fun than online, local multiplayer had always had drawbacks as there are people, myself included, whos living conditions used to limit their access to other people with local multiplayer.
Online has granted access to many people to connect to others.
100%
I haven't played a local multiplayer game with people in years, simply due to not having anybody to play em with within like 50 miles. And being on pc kinda means i dont really have anywhere for people to comfortably sit lol.
I would say server based, something like gmod, if you don't like the server there's hundreds of thousands of more to choose from and you want friends you can just invite them.
Online multiplayer streams are how I met one of my best friends
When you don’t have the social life DLC 😔
I also disagreed with this part of the video for slightly different reasons. My friends and I are all in our 30s and it's just easier to play games over the internet than it is to all get together and sit in the same physical space. I have lots of friends, but many of them have wives, kids, jobs, and live more than a block away from me. Lots of games come out nowadays with local coop only (Cook Serve Delicious, Wizard of Legend, Cuphead, etc.) This always annoys me because they are amazing games with 0 online support and don't even get me started on Steam Couchplay which is the laggiest thing in the world.
i dont even know how but with even the slightest bit of age ive come to appreciate your editing style more and more. sometimes you pull out just the perfect visual for a concept, or an impeccable music choice. honestly id probably want to edit a bit like how you do if i did longform video content, but alas, im certainly not the best with working on big projects.
Man, I hate that games in Canada are $80, you really gotta justify getting a game nowadays
It's worth mentioning that bargain bin shovelware moved from the PS2 and Wii over to the app store, which is why you don't see them anymore.
I miss it actually in a wag
Way
it's still on the switch store partially
That's a weird peak of "Local Multiplayer". Everyone has to own their own consoles but not the same game, compared to N64, PS1, PS2, GC, or The Original Xbox where all you needed one person who owned the game, but spare controllers and accessories.
The 3DS was way better with single-card multiplayer. I'd say that was the peak, if anything.
@@Pr0jectFM I think everyone's peak of Local Multi-player was when they had the most fun playing with their friends. Though as someone with little experience in this, I could see the Dreamcast or N64 being the peak for most people.
Going to other peoples houses just wasn't an option for a lot of people, so the DS's setup was perfect for that. Everyone brings their console instead of going to someone else's.
Nowadays the Switch offers that experience, plus you can take it anywhere you want
@@brocolyrics4331 Yeah, the Switch is awesome, and contains a counterexample to every single point of the video. This entire video plays like EmpLemon forgot anything and everything that is good exists. Like he's being fed information from a spiral of social media that popularizes and circulates existential dread, and then assumes that means that videogames are actually getting worse.
i don’t know why everyone acts like it’s hard to make a good game, all we want is interactive sex scenes with interchangeable positions. is that really so much to ask?
I really miss LAN and co-op games. My first exposure to video games was through playing old PS1 games with my dad, after he got done work, and I got done school.
Just wanted to add another comment : Gaming is an art industry - imagine if Da Vinci only had few hours instead of years to make a Mona Lisa. The main concern of the most companies in this business is to grow their loyal fanbase, which is hard when there are so many games made almost daily that rapidly draw attention away from other projects.
Thats why early access exist, thats why open beta tests exist, thats why DLCs were invented and most games are often rushed into the release state - companies do everything possible nowadays to keep their fanbase entertained and hyped for long enough so they would be around to buy a company's new product, or else their sales might flop, which leads to a bankruptcy
The main concern of most companies in this business is to fatten their wallets. That's why DLC was invented, and most games are often rushed into the release state - companies do everything possible to get as much money out of their "fanbase" as possible for as little work as possible. Gaming has largely been corporatized, you won't find any passion for the craft outside of indie developers, just a passion for making money. It doesn't matter if they cater to their audience or not, idiots will still buy their product; bankruptcy is never a concern for a AAA game company.
This is true now that I think about it. Maybe animal crossing NH could've only come a year later after it's original release date due to them finishing the event updates and finish the full game. Instead they released it in increments so people could enjoy it earlier with the bonus of continuous attention. They even postponed the actual release date before it came out early 2020. Or maybe it's just a tactic, who knows.
da vinci?!
Imagine if the canvas kept getting bigger and bigger as years went on and as demand for larger paintings went up, Davinci had to keep hiring more and more artists until eventually his trademark style was nowhere to be found.
Then these companies deserve to fail. Thats the main problem with our market that now requires a trillion dollars every 10ish year to bail it out. Companies overledging themselves because they are banking on a big payout. More chefs in the kitchen doesn't solve problems faster, its just a bigger deficit. Then games like Don't Starve or Stardew Valley come along and take a big fat SHIT on "Triple A" gaming companies. The problem with the gaming industry is greedy moralless companies and the dumb consumers that facilitate them. The best video I've ever seen that summarizes this is from this guy th-cam.com/video/QaAH-cv2ybo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Samyoline
"Theres a reason why EA looks like a money grubbing monolith... Because it is one. And there is a reason they treat you like a little bitch... Because you are one."
I was playing animal crossing new leaf in a mechanic's shop and a guy came over and said:
"what are you playing?"
I said "Animal crossing."
He immediately responded "Does it have good graphics?"
I wanted to tell him that games don't need good graphics to be good but I guess I knew that he just couldn't relate fun without the game having realistic graphics or it would be considered dated.
Animal Crpssing is boring as a whole. Not as good as Persona 5 or Dragon Quest 11
@@frogglen6350 I think that it's because it's kind of made for a casual play-through and those are console games anyway. I'm talking New leaf, not New Horizons
@@frogglen6350 its not for you then i guess
There's a difference between realistic and aesthetic graphics. Things can be highly stylized and simple if they commit to and capture a pleasing aesthetic - and look awesome; and there's games that value realism above all else (even gameplay), which tends to get boring and age worse - or it hasn't gotten enough resources in production so it looks unpolished from the release.
@David Lazaro Yes you are right
fun fact: the game artifact is not featured in the valve complete pack!
10:40 D-Did you just call de blob shovelware? THE GAME GOT 82 ON METACRITIC FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
The first De-Blob is a very underrated title.
@@Sixteen-Angels That's what I was trying to say when I mentioned that the game got an 82 on MetaCritic
It's crazy to me, I remember being in elementary/middle school watching his YTP with my friends, and we would pee ourselves. Now I'm in college, and he is making well-informed video essays, it just amazes me how time flies and people change.
Same except I was in elementary too bad almost all good channels now are pretty much only video essays, no animators or skits that last more than 30 seconds or just about any other content really.
@@doom5895 why are video essays a bad thing?
@@BL4NK.F4C3 they populate 99% of good content now
@@doom5895 and that's bad because...?
@@BL4NK.F4C3 its fucking repetitive and i don't want to watch it and that apply's with a lot of people, back then there was a bigger diversity of content. i'm sick of essays being the only thing worth watching here its boring.