and how far are you sending your data... I love it when people spend a lot of money for no reason because they don't understand how it works but want to brag. if you're under 100 meters you made someone rich for no reason.
You have done it again. Another great video on the standards in the industry regarding cables. In the past the incremental increase in the number ie Cat5 to Cat6, you could expect uniformity. Cat7 sounds like it wanted to corner a niche market like Apple did a long-time ago and had since realized that the masses dont want proprietary cables for every device. Keep these awesome videos coming. Looking forward to your Cat9 review. GOD Bless you and your channel.
Couple of things worth mentioning: 1. The vast majority of endpoints still use Fast Ethernet or Gigabit Ethernet interfaces. Standards faster than Cat6 are an almost complete waste of money for most people. 2. Cat7 has many problems surrounding labelling and the cables being sold as Cat7 not actually adhering to the standard. 3. Cat8 was built with 25GBASE-T and 40GBASE-T in mind, but no physical interfaces of these types are commercially available. The fastest interface you can get that runs over twisted pair is 10GBASE-T. If you want faster than 10G, you need to switch to fibre. If you're wiring your home, Cat6 is usually the best option. The runs are short enough that they'll probably support 10G, but even if it doesn't, you're far more likely to have a consumer/prosumer device use a 2.5GBASE-T or 5GBASE-T interface anyway. If you absolutely have to use 10G, then Cat6a is a good option. Cat5e can also work, but there's very little cost different between that and Cat6, but Cat6 runs are way more likely to support multigig options, so it's basically the default option.
Great information and all true. I have Cat6a in the walls of my home but good ole cat6 would be just fine for most situation's. I will be getting Google Fiber next year ( Las Vegas ) so I'm definitely looking forward to 2 or 3gig speeds or whatever I can afford. So cat6a should handle those speeds perfectly. Even Cat6 can handle those speeds at short runs. Thanks for watching and for commenting, I really appreciate the great information! Cheers!
Cat 7 cables have better external insulation and are harder to get around corners because of this. I have used cat 7 cables outside with grate success.
Yep, that's why it didn't succeed like Cat6a or Cat8. I bet those companies wish they had used the RJ45 connectors which might have helped get the IEEE stamp of approval. Thanks for watching!
Can you explain me the following: 1) What keystone connectors do you use for cat 7A? 2) There are a lot of people using cat 7A cable with cat 6A keystone connectors. Which means a bottleneck. 3) There are also some people using cat 7A cable with cat 8 keystone connectors. Will this improve the performance of the cat 7A cable regarding the use of 6A keystone connectors? 4) What happens to the speed and bandwidth when cat 7A cable is used with cat 6A and cat 8 keystone connectors? 5) What would perform better Cat6A with cat 6A keystone connectors or cat 7A with cat 8 keystone connectors ? Can be a difference? If so, would be significant? 6) When you compare the cat 7 with the cat 8 you are using the GG45 for cat 7 vs the RJ 45 for cat 8? Any help clarifying these issues would be appreciated.
Cat 5E is capable of supporting up to 5 GbE Ethernet. Cat 6 up to 10 GbE over shorter distances and Cat 6A for a full 100 meter run. Cat 7 / 8 serve no purpose. There isn't anything beyond 10 GbE over Cat 6 / 8. We're closing in on 10 years that a spec has existed for 25 GbE / 40GbE over Cat 8 and no one has produced any gear. It was originally intended for data centers for top of rack switch to server connections but no one in a data center environment would want that.
CAT7 is proprietary standard not an IEEE standard, it uses GG45 connectors not RJ45. RJ45 has most support for 10GBit. He recommends using CAT6a or CAT8. This video could have been a minute. 1:48 and 3:52
@UltimateTechHub I watch 4 hours deep dives regularly. I avoid TikTok and Instagram, I dislike TH-cam shorts. So no, my opinion doesn't stem from my attention span being destroyed by shorts. I do have ADHD, which also makes me prone to being frustrated especially when I feel my time is getting wasted. This video has very little information to length ratio, and the most annoying bit is how often statements were repeated even though the video is supposedly short. I came here to figure out the distinction, I got a click bait statement after the click bait statement at the end. Please take or ignore my feedback, but please don't put up strawman on why my criticism is completely bonkers because of services I don't consume.
most people dont need CAT 6, but you tube sells a lot of it... so what do you think, do you need CAT 7? are you're needs more that 100 meters or 328 feet. if not you don't need CAT 6, or CAT 7... but someone is going to sell it to you.
cat 5 limits you to 100mbps speeds, cat 5e technically can handle 1gbps but cat 6 is better. if your speed is still a 100 or less, its time to upgrade lol. im at smallest and cheapest package of my ISP and i still have over a 100mbps
@@collared It's not normally about internet speed, if you're doing cat runs in a house it's just as likely because you're a home labber doing large data transfers between local devices. Devices have SSD's not HDD's now which can saturate the 1G and more commonly the 2.5G in consumer things, or just go full nerd and get a 10G switch. In any event just run cat6a, it's a house not a mansion how expensive can it really be to do the future proof option. Hell run spare cable for future things if it'd be a pain in the arse to add new runs later.
Commenters here are focused on the here and now. Sure, CAT6 is likely good enough for right now, and CAT6A is definitely good enough. However, most houses last for 60+ years. If I were bothering to run cable in a house right now, it would absolutely be CAT8. Most houses can be wired with 1000ft of cable, which is a $500 difference in cable cost. Rerunning all that cable 30 years from now will absolutely cost more than the $500 saved today.
There is no point to Cat 8. It serves no purpose. Cat 6A is fine for 10 GbE. There is nothing beyond that for this type of cabling. You will have to run fiber.
I've seen even CAT8. lol anything past CAT6a is mostly a marketing gimmick. Like this video stated people buying CAT7 are really getting CAT6a cables just labled as CAT7. CAT6a is more than enough for home users.
Only the ignorant, or inexperienced would have gone for anything above cat 5e! Yes, you heard me. Plenty good for up to 2.5 gigabit and if you need higher speeds, go for fiber: Cheaper, faster, slimmer, less power and heat.
Cat6 is the new standard and its pretty cheap and if your going to run cables you might as well future proof. Cat5e is fine but ISP speeds are getting much faster and cat6 or cat6a is your best bet. Thanks for watching and for commenting!
I have some Cat8 in my network and it's awesome! Great Video!
and how far are you sending your data... I love it when people spend a lot of money for no reason because they don't understand how it works but want to brag. if you're under 100 meters you made someone rich for no reason.
There is no purpose for it. Just wasting money.
i just run optical at home cost is almost the same, but you do need sfp
You have done it again. Another great video on the standards in the industry regarding cables. In the past the incremental increase in the number ie Cat5 to Cat6, you could expect uniformity. Cat7 sounds like it wanted to corner a niche market like Apple did a long-time ago and had since realized that the masses dont want proprietary cables for every device. Keep these awesome videos coming. Looking forward to your Cat9 review. GOD Bless you and your channel.
Thanks for watching and I agree about the proprietary issues with Cat7. Cat9? What about Cat8a? Lol!
most clear video I have ever seen on the matter than you so much
As always, your videos are very informative! Thanks so much!
Thanks for watching I really appreciate it! 😃
Couple of things worth mentioning:
1. The vast majority of endpoints still use Fast Ethernet or Gigabit Ethernet interfaces. Standards faster than Cat6 are an almost complete waste of money for most people.
2. Cat7 has many problems surrounding labelling and the cables being sold as Cat7 not actually adhering to the standard.
3. Cat8 was built with 25GBASE-T and 40GBASE-T in mind, but no physical interfaces of these types are commercially available. The fastest interface you can get that runs over twisted pair is 10GBASE-T. If you want faster than 10G, you need to switch to fibre.
If you're wiring your home, Cat6 is usually the best option. The runs are short enough that they'll probably support 10G, but even if it doesn't, you're far more likely to have a consumer/prosumer device use a 2.5GBASE-T or 5GBASE-T interface anyway. If you absolutely have to use 10G, then Cat6a is a good option.
Cat5e can also work, but there's very little cost different between that and Cat6, but Cat6 runs are way more likely to support multigig options, so it's basically the default option.
Great information and all true. I have Cat6a in the walls of my home but good ole cat6 would be just fine for most situation's. I will be getting Google Fiber next year ( Las Vegas ) so I'm definitely looking forward to 2 or 3gig speeds or whatever I can afford. So cat6a should handle those speeds perfectly. Even Cat6 can handle those speeds at short runs. Thanks for watching and for commenting, I really appreciate the great information! Cheers!
Problem with cat 5e is many internet providers have gone past the 1gbit barrier. Fiber Internet providers are now offering 7gbit internet speeds.
@@chazzx7897 That’s not a problem for residential users. I have 10gbps speeds at home with a CAT5E run of 30 meters (98ft).
@calvin659 depends upon how much electrical interference there is. Newer cat cables have better insulation to reduce cross talk interference.
Cat 7 cables have better external insulation and are harder to get around corners because of this. I have used cat 7 cables outside with grate success.
Thanks for the brief on Cat7. I did not know it was proprietary.
Yep, that's why it didn't succeed like Cat6a or Cat8. I bet those companies wish they had used the RJ45 connectors which might have helped get the IEEE stamp of approval. Thanks for watching!
They are all cool cats. but the numbers does not fit 😞
Meow! I love me some cats! Thanks for watching Bodie! 😃
@@UltimateTechHub You are very welcome 😀
Can you explain me the following:
1) What keystone connectors do you use for cat 7A?
2) There are a lot of people using cat 7A cable with cat 6A keystone connectors. Which means a bottleneck.
3) There are also some people using cat 7A cable with cat 8 keystone connectors. Will this improve the performance of the cat 7A cable regarding the use of 6A keystone connectors?
4) What happens to the speed and bandwidth when cat 7A cable is used with cat 6A and cat 8 keystone connectors?
5) What would perform better Cat6A with cat 6A keystone connectors or cat 7A with cat 8 keystone connectors ? Can be a difference? If so, would be significant?
6) When you compare the cat 7 with the cat 8 you are using the GG45 for cat 7 vs the RJ 45 for cat 8?
Any help clarifying these issues would be appreciated.
Thsi is good info. I was duped by the 'Cat 7 is higher' mentality, lol, so no more. Thanks
@frankdaeran352 thanks for watching and for commenting !!
You're right, when we visited Japan CAT7 was in the bargan bin, they're on CAT8 now
Good for Japanese consumers, I guess? Who but the most data-driven businesses even in Japan need Cat 8?
@@h8GW No one. It serves no purpose. It's snake oil.
CAT7 had so much potential but that happens when you try to do proprietary standards. I’m looking your way Sony😂
Cat 5E is capable of supporting up to 5 GbE Ethernet. Cat 6 up to 10 GbE over shorter distances and Cat 6A for a full 100 meter run. Cat 7 / 8 serve no purpose. There isn't anything beyond 10 GbE over Cat 6 / 8. We're closing in on 10 years that a spec has existed for 25 GbE / 40GbE over Cat 8 and no one has produced any gear. It was originally intended for data centers for top of rack switch to server connections but no one in a data center environment would want that.
Thanks for watching and for commenting! I'm a Cat6a guy myself!
CAT7 is proprietary standard not an IEEE standard, it uses GG45 connectors not RJ45. RJ45 has most support for 10GBit. He recommends using CAT6a or CAT8. This video could have been a minute. 1:48 and 3:52
@_philipp__ Thanks for watching my very long 4 minute video! Lol! Funny how TikTok and Instagram have shortened peoples attention spans.
@UltimateTechHub I watch 4 hours deep dives regularly. I avoid TikTok and Instagram, I dislike TH-cam shorts. So no, my opinion doesn't stem from my attention span being destroyed by shorts. I do have ADHD, which also makes me prone to being frustrated especially when I feel my time is getting wasted. This video has very little information to length ratio, and the most annoying bit is how often statements were repeated even though the video is supposedly short. I came here to figure out the distinction, I got a click bait statement after the click bait statement at the end. Please take or ignore my feedback, but please don't put up strawman on why my criticism is completely bonkers because of services I don't consume.
@_philipp__ Thanks for watching and for commenting I really appreciate it! Have a great day!
most people dont need CAT 6, but you tube sells a lot of it... so what do you think, do you need CAT 7? are you're needs more that 100 meters or 328 feet. if not you don't need CAT 6, or CAT 7... but someone is going to sell it to you.
cat 5 limits you to 100mbps speeds, cat 5e technically can handle 1gbps but cat 6 is better.
if your speed is still a 100 or less, its time to upgrade lol. im at smallest and cheapest package of my ISP and i still have over a 100mbps
@@collared It's not normally about internet speed, if you're doing cat runs in a house it's just as likely because you're a home labber doing large data transfers between local devices. Devices have SSD's not HDD's now which can saturate the 1G and more commonly the 2.5G in consumer things, or just go full nerd and get a 10G switch. In any event just run cat6a, it's a house not a mansion how expensive can it really be to do the future proof option. Hell run spare cable for future things if it'd be a pain in the arse to add new runs later.
There is no purpose for Cat 8 you're just wasting your money. Go with Cat 6A.
NO go with DOG7
@@polishdecayI like bat19
you got me at "I'm Michael Scott"...
Thanks for watching! lol!
That's what she said! (Sorry - couldn't help myself).
Commenters here are focused on the here and now. Sure, CAT6 is likely good enough for right now, and CAT6A is definitely good enough. However, most houses last for 60+ years. If I were bothering to run cable in a house right now, it would absolutely be CAT8. Most houses can be wired with 1000ft of cable, which is a $500 difference in cable cost. Rerunning all that cable 30 years from now will absolutely cost more than the $500 saved today.
Great point!
There is no point to Cat 8. It serves no purpose. Cat 6A is fine for 10 GbE. There is nothing beyond that for this type of cabling. You will have to run fiber.
Wait a min, the cable from my pc to the router could be upgraded???? Really? Na, I don't believe you
Lol! Just don't use Cat7! 😆
Hard to justify anything over cat6a when mm om4 is so inexpensive.
I agree. But Cat8 prices aren't too bad. Cat6a is what I have in my walls of my house! Thanks for watching Walter!
Cat 7 is still superior in terms of raw speed and frequency than Cat6a
But serves no real world purpose.
cat 10 the world :)
I've seen even CAT8. lol anything past CAT6a is mostly a marketing gimmick. Like this video stated people buying CAT7 are really getting CAT6a cables just labled as CAT7. CAT6a is more than enough for home users.
@chazzx7897 Yes cat cat6a is a ll you need or cat8 if you want to future proof.
@@UltimateTechHub well Cat8 isn't even recognized along with Cat7 and who knows when or even if it will.
I'm prison mike
it cannot be dead because it was not alive
Meow! Lol!
Fix your description.
It's you're or you are.
NOT your.
Lol! It was just a typo! Thanks for watching and for commenting.
Only the ignorant, or inexperienced would have gone for anything above cat 5e!
Yes, you heard me.
Plenty good for up to 2.5 gigabit and if you need higher speeds, go for fiber:
Cheaper, faster, slimmer, less power and heat.
Cat6 is the new standard and its pretty cheap and if your going to run cables you might as well future proof. Cat5e is fine but ISP speeds are getting much faster and cat6 or cat6a is your best bet. Thanks for watching and for commenting!