@ Casual Historian: this was an incredibly strong and immensely well-executed piece of work! The Lebanese Civil War is a gargantuan undertaking of such monumental complexity that it would probably stay the hand of most any content creators who even consider taking a crack at it. From someone who has spent most of his adult life in the military and civilian intelligence fields focusing on the Middle East (with a Masters in Global Security with an emphasis on the Near East), trust me when I say this is some of the best work I’ve ever seen. I wish you could have been in charge of my briefing material. Hats off to you!
This is some dizzying sh*t. I thought I had a good grasp of what had happened, but I now realised I was eating bite-sized morsels. This is crazy complex. Even my Lebanese girlfriend is stunned. Well done.
The various shades of Christians of the Eastern Roman Empire welcomed this as opposed to the alternative which was forced conversions to the Orthodox sect of the government. Under the European system, anyone not explicitly corresponding to the religion of the state was forcibly converted or killed or if they were lucky deported. (Cathars? Jews? The Norse and Baltic pagans?) Islam was in Spain for 800 years, no remnant Muslim population remains after the inquisitions and forced deportations. Sicily for 200 years. Yet Syria was the first place to be conquered by the Muslims and after 1400 years the Christian population ranges from 10% to 30% in some areas. On the day of judgment let's see who Christ will favor, the inquisitors or the taxers.
@@aqsilewsin >>Islam was in Spain for 800 years And Spain didn't get advanced until they left Islam in the 15th century. lol Muslims controlled Palestine for nearly 800 years too and lost it in less than 50 to Jews. Why would Christ favor in the religion that literally denies him?
This was phenomenal! I've always been fascinated with this period in Lebanon and had a friend from there who's dad was kidnapped in the 70's because his father was a general for one of the factions. My buddy wouldn't exist if his dad wasn't spotted getting bagged in a trunk and then survived the shootout to rescue him. Such a wild time and so many players over such a long period. Just phenomenal getting this in long form with all of the details. Can't wait to watch more of your content!
My Maronite Grandparents escaped Lebanon in the 1920's and moved to South Africa. I escaped South Africa in 2018. Three generations of starting again in a new land. We know things we see those who have lived generation after generation in peace and stability, just don't know. Things we would prefer not to know.
Proof running away from the problems of a nation, are not a permanent fix. The way to repair it, is to stand up and fight. Otherwise they will end up where you are.
I searched up a video to learn more about the Lebanese Civil War after attempting to read about it, incredibly complicated and wasn’t surprised that it may take 3 hours to cover it all.
Assad invaded. His bombing k..led 50k, but as time wore on, Israel, who initially started by funding The Christians, ended up funding groups against one another as well.
I'm Brazilian with family coming from Lebanon back in the late 1800s. I have heard people blaming everything and everyone for the whole thing, and now I understand why. It was such a complex and maddening situation, anyone can be blamed for what happened. Everyone did some dirty and everyone has some blame for escalating.
The politics of a nation is just a reflection of the culture. The culture results from society, which is a sum of the individual characters who live in a country. Lebanon is on the sea, scenic and probably has oil or agriculture. Sadly, the main reason Lebanon is such a hellhole. is the Lebanese people themselves.
I’m an American with Lebanese descent as well. Never knew anything about my family from there or why they left and my grandfather whose grandparents immigrated died before my birth. Always wanted to know more about the people
Since teaching in the war-ravaged mountains of predominately Christian East Beirut in 1982-83, I have been drawn to historical and political accounts of Lebanese life through the years, and scenic TH-cam videos, as well. Mabrouk, Sir, for your monumental work in presenting this fine, comprehensive documentary. 🇱🇧 👏
My great great grandparents came to the US around the turn of the century, they were Christian / Maronite Catholic which makes me believe they were likely fleeing religious persecution. The last name was Antoun, which I’ve learned could mean their presence in the Middle East may have originated during the crusades, given that this is an Arabization of the southern European name Anthony (hence my name)
Just FYI, some of the books on your wishlist can't ship to your address... I skipped those ones and picked some that could, but wanted to let you know about that issue in case you weren't aware. I don't recall the titles that couldn't off the top of my head but could probably find them in my amazon history if you need me to. TY for the great channel and the idea to support you with books. I love that!
Israel sent them to Lebanon to destabilize the country. Ended up killing civilians and massacring women and children. These war crimes are disgusting and now have armed another group to keep the region shakey so they can receive billions in funds. What a shame they are!
Thats what happened bcs they tried first of all to fight from jordan but they failed so they raided lebanon. This event turned into a civil war where christians are against muslims and all parties whete against each other whether it was the plo , lebanese army , christian or muslim militias or even israel who were backing the christians and the lebanesr forces party.
im lebanese and ive been watching this video for more than 10 hours everytime i go back to the start because of how complicated it is, i thought i knew the civil war but i only knew 1%
The Druze religion is NOT a sect of Shia Islam in no way. It is an esoteric monotheistic and syncretic religion based on the teaching of Hamza ibn Ali Ahmad. Druze system even contains some of the works of Plato and Pythagoras. Now the Druze practice has elements of Islam, Hinduism, and bits of ancient philosophy.
1:52:56 Why didn't the Lebanese Army enter the camps? This seems fairly obvious if we consider the motivations of the various actors. The Lebanese Army didn't want the PLO in Lebanon anymore. The PLO's presence in Lebanon had led to Israel's invasion of Lebanon and caused the deaths of many Lebanese citizens. The potential existed for the Phalangist militia to "deal with" the PLO problem inside Lebanon and the Lebanese Army had no motivation to stop them from doing so. Neither did the IDF. It is only when you get to the highest level of Israeli government, the level that would have to deal with the fallout, that we find anyone who might have wanted to prevent the massacre. These were women and children of the PLO. I don't think anybody really shed a tear over their deaths, outside of the PLO. The moral of the story: If you want somebody to truly care about your women and children, don't be a group of a-hole terrorists.
I'd add to this: If you want people to care about your women and children, don't literally take Lebanese civilians as hostages, slaughter Maronite civilians and take sides in the civil wars of the country that hosts you, turning your guns on the people who opened their arms to you.
Looking back retrospectively and comparing this war with how Israel is going about the war in Gaza, I can only start questioning whether their “reporting” of the incidents was accurate, or it had its twists and turns to make them look less of “a bad guy” in this massacre and other massacres. Given they are ruled today by the same far right government and ideology that was during this war, and looking at the atrocities they committed in Gaza, I really doubt what we see here is exactly the truth. At the end of the day, history is always written by the winner.
Wow, excellent documentary. From the media you would never know that the Palestinians fought with just about everyone, druze, shia, syrians, lebanese, maronites, jordan, israel, phillangists, hezbollah, and even amongst themselves.
They have unbelievable exaltation in the media and blindly supported by the Arab world and left wing useful idiots. Even now, few actively condemn Hamas.
Always Palestenians leaders do problem and make decisions that make their people suffer. Crazy is trying to do the same thing and expect different results.
I've been looking for a good comprehensive breakdown of Lebanon for years now.. it's always been such a dense thing to try to figure out, and yet always so Central to pretty much everything going on in the current age.. it's been easy enough to figure out the things going on in Iraq and Iran and most of the Arab states.. but for some reason Lebanon had always been this enigma that seemed centrally tied to all of them but only paid lip service so I really appreciate this by the bye.. also really appreciate you keeping 4x3 content in the 4x3 aspect ratio!
I even asked my cousin who served in the Lebanese military, and he said that the Civil War is such a complex topic, and that every person has a slightly different version of its, making it so hard to know exactly what happened.
@erik bengt I feel like that might be coming from a reflexive ideology that creates one of those self-fulfilling prophecies... It's amazing how animosity can breed animosity. Does it give you purpose to have a focal point to fear? Would it be detrimental to dig a little bit further from the surface of that, and maybe, just for yourself explain why that is? Approach it like a science experiment maybe... Apply similar historical patterns and events to other cultures and ideologies to see if they match up maybe.. see if the common denominator really is.. because they're Muslims.. or maybe it might actually be something else... Always check data with other data, and as with anything that worries you or frightens you.. try to understand it and maybe approach it with all of the input at hand... Rather than just assuming that the answer is what you thought it was all along, because the presentation and the equation seems familiar to a pre foregone conclusion.. Ideology is easy, that's why brands love it so much, that's why politicians use it that's why it drives cultures... And one of the biggest problems in human relations is the assumption that you're on the right team.. and others are on the wrong team.. because now we have teams in the first place.
@erik bengt I mean... I'm pretty sure the dragon disappeared a year ago or so.. shows up every once in a while and makes a public appearance you know kind of like proof of Life thing but.. if there's one thing the CCP is good at.. we can have billionaires.. but every once in a while we got to take one to the public square and let everybody know who is God now! And I have it on good authority that dragon was... Well let's just say the last time we had a cult.. I mean we had to liquidate pretty much everything just to get the citizen value.. and sure some scales got knocked off on the way for its state sanction cremation and.. it's Bones have been mysteriously divvied up and may end up with private collectors but.. There's a box you know... It's on a shelf with all the rest of the state enemies that simply couldn't be made to function in an appropriate party manner or for positive benefit.. it's pretty big box actually surprisingly enough but you think a dragon would take a little bit to burn but.. that was actually kind of a feature cuz we were working on some tech and we needed a live subject... Now if you excuse me.. what's your blood type? Asking for a friend..
Absolutely amazing ! Why aren't the Universities hiring you???????? Thank you so very much for your dedication to such comprehensive historical fact finding, hell of a mission and undoubtedly a labour of love!
As a person who is lebanese and lived in lebanon and my parents lived through those conflicts, I can say some of the stories told in the documentary are one side view and there's more into the stories.
Actually It is well described of what the hell happened and how the country was exploited by some proxies, that moved in after being thrown out of Jordan, For sure their eye sight was pointed towards the southern border! So the Civil War to them was more than convenient, justifying their Evil presence. We left as well over 45 years ago, and we lost all what we had! In the name of who? LEBANON WAS THE GEM OF THE MIDDLE-EAST, LET ALONE ITS NATURAL BEAUTY. please don't let me going, my old man's dream was to go back, he died and his wish died with him. We left as homeless people migrating to a different country seeking peace and future, we were forced to leave. Enough with the proxy garbage and the arab hood and the myth that surrounds this narrative... May be the other arab countries should have opened their doors to welcome those that ruined the country.
Thanks for all the work you put into this. I was in high school in the early 80s and Lebanon was all over the news back then, but of course you cannot learn anything from the news (then or now), so it is interesting to get this full historical perspective on what was actually going on.
Great video! I am Lebanese and it is sad to watch knowing that most of the warlords now hold positions in the government and history is about to repeat itself, currently Suleiman franjiye might become our next president (the grandson of franjiye), and Jaajaa, gemayel, berri amongst others are still in power. I just wanted to offer a few corrections as a Shia muslim: 1) We do not believe that Mussa al Sadr is in hiding, we say that he was kidnapped in Libya by Kaddafi, in fact Amal movement (the successors of Sadr's party) imprisoned kaddafi's son a few years ago in order to get more information on the whereabouts of Imam Mussa Al Sadr, but we all know that realistically, he is dead and not incarcerated. 2)Druze are not Shia, and they do not view themselves as shia either
Hey fellow Lebanese.. I was reading the comments before watching rhr video, and all was saying what a comprehensive work and such. But when I read your comment, and those two remarks you made about the video, made me think its not that well made after all. Such two mistakes are not to be ignored by this level of documentary. So do you recommend to watch it anyway, or its not worth spending those 3.5 hours?
@@Santino369 Yes I totally recommend watching it fully, It is comprehensive, objective, and unbiased. Honestly, compared to our local media, these two "inaccuracies" are mild and tolerable, especially coming from a foreigner since we all know how little presence Lebanon has online so doing an in depth research is challenging at best.
Any sect refused Sunni Islam is considerably shiaa Islam even they are not recognized from shiaa but we know all of them established in the political conflict about imama & caliphate.. the rebels against Umayyad & Abbasid are different shiaa from 7 to 12 imam
Amazing video, but can someone explain what the 'SNF' is? He first mentions it at 18:27, and says this is the organisation led by Kamal Jumblatt, but I literally can't find anything online about an organisation called SNF involved in lebanon, much less one ran by Kamal Jumblatt. Or am I just mishearing what he's saying?
They didn't trust the IDF to enter the camp, yet they were completely fine with letting in a paramilitary group that just lost it's leader and was out for revenge Seems legit
Yea i find that werid too. Its like the IDF wanted to kill those civilians but didn't want to be held accountable internationally so they got the flaggeraints to do it for them.
I listened through this video while doing yard work, and it was very informative. Thank you for such a broad and detailed account of such a tangled mess of a civil war. You do excellent work. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Lebanese here. I just started watching. I will post my comment later. This looks promising though and holy shit 3 hours. Let me warm some zaatar Man'oushe, and keep some Labne dip on the side, and a cup of tea. BRB. 🇱🇧
@TheShahsMan First off, great effort by the creator. This was definitely well researched and put together. Putting everything into historical context is a must which is why I think he spent a good 30 minutes before leading up to the events of 1975 when war broke out. It's not easy making sense out of all of this and while I appreciate the effort I think more additional context could have been added to the various sects / parties / factions - involved. If you go deep into 1975 and 1976 Maronite / Christian sub culture you will notice a strong right wing sentiment of Lebanese nationalism. I think that part could have been explored a little bit more, although Phalange / Leb forces was covered extensively in the video. Also, while the Shia factions were covered, I think the video failed to justify their rise in popularity and how they emerged as strong players in the Lebanese political arena. Like I can't believe even Nabih Berri's name wasn't brought up...? (Not that I'm a fan but he's pretty much the most powerful man in Lebanon.) I felt also Sunni / Arab nationalism wasn't covered much here (1975~1978 I guess) Finally, the point on Aoun's rise. How did he come up the ranks and where did he get his power from? That part wasn't covered extensively. I get it that there are so many layers and sub layers that would turn this to a six hour video. Still, I'd strongly recommend the video for anyone that wants to unpack our complex history and politics.
The amount or background work put in to make this detailed and comprehensive breakdown is greatly appreciated. Glad you took the time to put this together for us.
Got to love how so much of the world's problems can boil down to "Europeans randomly drew lines on a map to determine politics completely ignoring the social, cultural, religious or ethnic reality of the region. The Balkans, Africa, Middle East...
@@specialted1Nonsense they could simply listened to the voice of people, but it would mean they had to forsake opportunity to exploit indigenous people.
@@ordennuevo469Literally proving what he is saying, what indigenous people? Lebanon alone has christian sunnis shia and druze that are 4 distinct groups, which opinion are you going to take into account? Which group are you going to look in the eye and say "you don't belong here", only christians wanted to make the country that we call Lebanon today, rest wanted Greater Syria (as in the land that is called Lebanon today being part of Syria), which side will you listen to and on what basis and how are you practically going to make it happen? They listened to christians for they're their allies and were the majority at the time, had they made greater Syria it would've led to problems all the same, christians wouldn't have accepted to live in a small enclave isolated and unprotected nor would muslims and druze accepted leaving that land, what were they supposed to do? Please do tell me and this is only Lebanon we're talking about here, I'm lebanese myself... DIVERSITY is the problem, not the way Europeans divided land, unfortunately they irresponsably brought that problem home for themselves now...
This is so complex I had a really hard time following what was going on and keeping everyone straight. I can't imagine how many details you must've omitted for the sake of coherency and still it's a labyrinth of factions, religions, and individual strongmen. Thanks for putting this together, it was an interesting watch. Menachem Begin sounds like the beginning of an occultic chant.
It is not hard to understand. Palestinian militia had to flee because they get rekt by israel, they go to lebanon, they get into camps WITH THEIR WEAPONS. They got released and start rampaging against non muslims. They are joined by half the military who is muslim. They genocide non muslims, create road blockage and execute people who are non muslims (religion was written on the ID card).
It had to be Incredibly frustrating that negotiations repeatedly got up to the brink of acceptance on all sides but one & then friggin Assad just showed his whole ass. Over and over again.
Where i live in the UK, during the 80's was known locally to be a bit rough. In the UK they like to twin their towns with towns from across the world. This sign read 'Welcome to Meir, twinned with Beirut.' I was young when this war was coming to an end, if it ever really has? I could never understand why they where fighting. It was/ is complicated. I later went on to tour Lebanon, i loved it, the people from all walks of life were among the most accommodating i have met on my travels. It's when you realize there is insidious influence far beyond anything you may have thought. I do not vote anymore. I hope one day that this country can be at peace. They seem to be up against it constantly. What a fantastic documentary! Thanks Casual Historian, excellent work.
its been a week since i finished watching this video, and i must say i find myself thinking about this whole civil war from time to time now. i had to comeback and comment on this. Just a incredible video, and i can tell a lot of hours went into making this, and at a time where i even doubt if "documentaries" are factual, channels like yours are amazing because viewers like me can just tell from the onset that you are dedicated to this work and that we can trust your genuine intentions. side question: what is name of the piano track? really liked it ☺
You are right, mate, about denouncing occupation! But, Lebanon was being occupying by no one other than Yasser Arafat... He started the Lebanese war, if you recall WELL. The Christian in Lebanon have asked the Israeli to come to the rescue. That's the historical truth, not the lies spread by those who filled their pocket with your money! Ask Arafat why she need 350 millions $ to live in Paris while your people are starving... At this very day, who is killing the economy of your beautiful country if no other than Hezbollah! You should study history, my friend, and not listening to lies that make you vulnerable. Have a nice one!
Such an elaborate explanation of the situation coming from a foreigner. We can see that you've put a lot of effort into it. Thank you for highlighting events of arguably one of the most complex civil war in the middle east.
Thank you for this documentary. I am obsessed about the Lebanese Civil War but most of the material online is in Arabic which I don't speak or understand. Thank you SOOOO much!
Excellent video. I listen to very dry documentaries and lectures, to fall asleep to. After 9 mins of this, I was enthralled and had to turn it off, until I could enjoy it, completely.
14:28 big mistake here! Chamoun was never part of the socialist party he presided over his own National Liberal Party (LNP or Al Ahrar), a big player in the Lebanese right at the time
As a Japanese outsider looking in, it was probably half justified as historically Muslims usually start the hostility more often and get even more fanatical in larger populations.
If you going to make a video on the History of Lebanon ... or the Middle East its better that you DO NOT keep quoting from - Golda Meir - You are obviously very heavily biased in favour of Israel ....
Sorry you don't understand the mentality of the middle East.It is only partly about religion.people in these countries cannot work together...they all want power and don't really trust each other.and a terrorists are brutal and primitive thugs that get high on killing and torturing.(though I agree that Islam has a lot to answer for in providing justification for this violence against 'the infidels')
Amazing video, just a small word of advice, it's better to consult locals regarding the pronunciation of names because many times they're pronounced extremely differently to how you're pronouncing them based on just reading them as they are read in english. Just don't constructive criticism, it's a great video
You have a lot of inaccuracies, my family is Palestinian Catholic and i come from a long line of Marxist Pan Arabs Contrary to what you said we have a great relationship with our Muslim Arab neighbors, in fact some of the most notable Palestinian pan Arabs were Christians Wadi Haddad and George Habash Also it feels like you are biased towards favoring Israel
All "Palestinians" are t3rr0r157s. Zero Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are not. There are plenty of Arabs who don't call themselves Palestinians and are friendly to Jewish people.
Thanks so much for this great doc, and trying to cover Lebanon is super complex. If anyone wants to see, in 2000 Al Jazeera Arabic made a 15-hour documentary (!) and it was all online last I checked, and it has english subtitles (I speak ~mid level Arabic, so I needed that). The odd, or sad part of the video is that so many community leaders that were interviewed were killed by 2006 or so. Such as George Hawi, the head of the Lebanese Communist party was blown up near where I was headed. My only critique here is glossing over the deeper histories: Lebanon as a carthagib ian colony, how Alex the zGreat built a land to reach and attack a castle in Saida (the land he deposited is stll there! Lebanese wood was high priced, and purple dye was made in Tyr for royalty or emperors. In the first Crusade when the Maronites left Eastern Orthodoxs Christianity and wrote to the pope that they wanted to join the Catholic church (there are too many Eastern Christian groups at that time: copts, Armenians, different greek ones (Byzantine saw itself as the new rome and used Latin until Justinian. And there are of course many syncratic religious groups (almost wiped out) like the Druze, Shabbak, Kaka'i, Alevi and the Alawi of Syria (they never thought themselves as Muslims, but Hafez Assad declared it. They still honor Christian + Muslim holidays, women never cover themselves, etc. >>To note, I first visited Lebanon in 2001 (after Israel finally withdrew, returned to do research i Palestinian camps, and later 2 years working to aid Syrian refugees. Ive been back 3x just to see friends Frankly, its kind of incredible there isnt a new civil war there now (they came close) with almost 2m refugees in a nation of 4-5m. I still have many friends there plugged into being kind to all, and mixed Christian/Muslim marriages. Also, many are still atheists. Note: the Shi'a are actually much more Liberal than the Sunnis. Hizbullah drinks beer, but its banned in Sunni areas, like Saida. If you or anyone have any desire to know more about all refugees there, Im happy to help anyone! I also bumped into the late great Brit journalist Robert Fisk, who wrote the amazing book "Pity the Nation." He had been there before the Civil War, but also covered the largely forgotten Algerian Civil war, and Palestine, Iraq and Syria. I met him in Gaza once before. A great man, but liked younger (over 18!) women :P
Mixed Muslim & Christian marriages exist and end up with families either becoming Christian or Muslim. Many families share the same surnames. Arabic first names are prominent in Christian areas.
as a syrian arab christian, i can tell you this whole series is shoddily researched with a bias towards western powers and a misrepresentation of the conflicts of the arab world and the palestinian cause, in the words of my mother koul kharra e maouta, you know nothing about us even after 3 hours and 26 minutes
Well done! From my limited perspective fairly presented and explained! The end is still koas and unsettled. How does one find peace when the major and minor actor have issues going back at least fifteen hundred years and longer. The issues are more emotional than tangible, moving more to endemic genetic proportions. Thank you!
This was interesting but it seemed pretty one sided. I wish it used more plo/Muslim Arab sources. It seemed like an Israeli history of the Lebanese civil war.
I watched all six videos before and loved this. One question that comes to mind is - I don’t hear anything about the Orthodox. Did they have any involvement or alliances? Militias?
This is not an objective, historical account. I gave up an hour in due to the biased presentation. Lots of citing of Western, Israeli, and, to a lesser extent, Maronite views of events without any views from Lebanese Muslims or Palestinians. Treats the Palestinians in Lebanon as a monolith, and uses the never-useful term “terrorist” throughout. Save yourself some time and skip this. For a more credible history, I recommend reading Robert Fisk’s “Pity the Nation.”
1- great video 2- everyone will tell u decide the vidoe, you don’t have to! They can just pause .. it’s good to see the full thing 3- sometime when you use letters like IRGC it’s useful to remind audiences from time to time that it’s is for example the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.. and so one.. there is soo many parties and so many shortcuts and it get confusing 4- I understand your background, but with all the efforts you do, please try to be a little more fair.. it’s can’t always be that Arabs are evil and Israelis are angles all the way I’m from egypt and I know Arabs where not angles all the ways .. but also we are not that bad .. there is so much depth and pain to the story Overall great work and I enjoyed it
thanks so much casual historian for making this video, there are several points I felt could have been expanded from the PLO/Arab point of view and what was also perhaps not emphasised enough were the disastrous human and environmental consequences of this conflict. additionally i thought the role of the british in partitioning territory that aligns with its colonial logics in other parts of the world was under played. but all the same i really appreciate the time effort energy and commitment needed to put this together. please keep going and making more videos. tx
@@malcomx1924 yes both ways, its not easy to document the story of this conflict. the more you read and talk to people the more complex it becomes and the less you know...
@ Casual Historian: this was an incredibly strong and immensely well-executed piece of work! The Lebanese Civil War is a gargantuan undertaking of such monumental complexity that it would probably stay the hand of most any content creators who even consider taking a crack at it. From someone who has spent most of his adult life in the military and civilian intelligence fields focusing on the Middle East (with a Masters in Global Security with an emphasis on the Near East), trust me when I say this is some of the best work I’ve ever seen. I wish you could have been in charge of my briefing material. Hats off to you!
This is some dizzying sh*t. I thought I had a good grasp of what had happened, but I now realised I was eating bite-sized morsels. This is crazy complex. Even my Lebanese girlfriend is stunned.
Well done.
Nice to meet you, Michael.
How long is her nose
@@ComeAndSee101why do you even comment crap like this my dude?
@@Schwarzie10 sorry I should’ve asked about the unibrow instead
Least complicated middle eastern civil war
Now the vermin are in Britain
The Congo: *Looks at Lebanon* How cute...
Nah it is the most one
It is definitely the most, maybe Syria, only, could top that
Honestly, TH-cam's a history class, but not only history, am learning everything from culture to wiping my arse properly. Thanks very much sir.
The whole war was so absurd that at some point you'd forget who's fighting whom and why?
Simplified. Christians vs Muslims.
@@antun88*Christians vs Sunni Muslims vs Shia Muslims
@@antun88That's not simplified that's just a mischaracterization
@@antun88 That's just wrong.
16:00 -The irony… Christianity originated in the Middle East & spread, several centuries before Islam was even a thought.
The various shades of Christians of the Eastern Roman Empire welcomed this as opposed to the alternative which was forced conversions to the Orthodox sect of the government. Under the European system, anyone not explicitly corresponding to the religion of the state was forcibly converted or killed or if they were lucky deported. (Cathars? Jews? The Norse and Baltic pagans?) Islam was in Spain for 800 years, no remnant Muslim population remains after the inquisitions and forced deportations. Sicily for 200 years. Yet Syria was the first place to be conquered by the Muslims and after 1400 years the Christian population ranges from 10% to 30% in some areas. On the day of judgment let's see who Christ will favor, the inquisitors or the taxers.
@@aqsilewsin >>Islam was in Spain for 800 years
And Spain didn't get advanced until they left Islam in the 15th century. lol Muslims controlled Palestine for nearly 800 years too and lost it in less than 50 to Jews. Why would Christ favor in the religion that literally denies him?
@@aqsilewsinThat’s nonsense dude, I suggest you research on the inquisition etc
That's a big joke. The claim is being promoted by non inclusive and biased bunch of loosers
it started in africa but yeah lol
This was phenomenal! I've always been fascinated with this period in Lebanon and had a friend from there who's dad was kidnapped in the 70's because his father was a general for one of the factions. My buddy wouldn't exist if his dad wasn't spotted getting bagged in a trunk and then survived the shootout to rescue him. Such a wild time and so many players over such a long period. Just phenomenal getting this in long form with all of the details. Can't wait to watch more of your content!
My Maronite Grandparents escaped Lebanon in the 1920's and moved to South Africa. I escaped South Africa in 2018. Three generations of starting again in a new land. We know things we see those who have lived generation after generation in peace and stability, just don't know. Things we would prefer not to know.
Proof running away from the problems of a nation, are not a permanent fix. The way to repair it, is to stand up and fight. Otherwise they will end up where you are.
Why did your grandma escape Lebanon in the 20’s?
What happened?
From a Lebanese Australian.
@@michael30000 Famine
Colonization amd displacement began in the 20s. After WWI lebanon was "created" (in the eyes of the intl community).
Escaped Mzansi using the airport?
I work 75 hours a week and find it difficult not get bored. Thanks for an excellent three hours. New subscriber.
I searched up a video to learn more about the Lebanese Civil War after attempting to read about it, incredibly complicated and wasn’t surprised that it may take 3 hours to cover it all.
First is not a Civil War is Palestinian refugees attacking Christians Labanese
Hafez Al Assad was the grand chessmaster of the whole war, he played the pawns well and turned each faction against each other.
Assad invaded. His bombing k..led 50k, but as time wore on, Israel, who initially started by funding The Christians, ended up funding groups against one another as well.
It’s been years since I’ve been searching for a comprehensive Lebanese Civil War documentary. Thank you so much for your work!
But did you become a patron?
Absoluut een goede reportage maar taai. Mister thank you very much thomas leeuwenberg
Same we are so lucky. Finally a very in-depth documentary in English!
lebanese here, there a saying that goes : if somone explained lebanon to u and u understood. they did not explain it right
Greetings from Lebanese Christian
I'm Brazilian with family coming from Lebanon back in the late 1800s.
I have heard people blaming everything and everyone for the whole thing, and now I understand why.
It was such a complex and maddening situation, anyone can be blamed for what happened. Everyone did some dirty and everyone has some blame for escalating.
The politics of a nation is just a reflection of the culture. The culture results from society, which is a sum of the individual characters who live in a country.
Lebanon is on the sea, scenic and probably has oil or agriculture. Sadly, the main reason Lebanon is such a hellhole. is the Lebanese people themselves.
It is all about destroying the Middle East!!! For oil and to solve the problem of Jews from Europe mainly. They wouldn’t leave the area alone.
I’m an American with Lebanese descent as well. Never knew anything about my family from there or why they left and my grandfather whose grandparents immigrated died before my birth. Always wanted to know more about the people
If all Lebanese people that moved abroad would return, Lebanon would once again be a majority (80%?) Christian country again
@@mcj2219and if all Jews left back to Europe too.
Since teaching in the war-ravaged mountains of predominately Christian East Beirut in 1982-83, I have been drawn to historical and political accounts of Lebanese life through the years, and scenic TH-cam videos, as well. Mabrouk, Sir, for your monumental work in presenting this fine, comprehensive documentary. 🇱🇧 👏
Where are you from and what took you to Lebanon in the middle of our civil war, if you don't mind me asking?
My great great grandparents came to the US around the turn of the century, they were Christian / Maronite Catholic which makes me believe they were likely fleeing religious persecution. The last name was Antoun, which I’ve learned could mean their presence in the Middle East may have originated during the crusades, given that this is an Arabization of the southern European name Anthony (hence my name)
Just FYI, some of the books on your wishlist can't ship to your address... I skipped those ones and picked some that could, but wanted to let you know about that issue in case you weren't aware. I don't recall the titles that couldn't off the top of my head but could probably find them in my amazon history if you need me to.
TY for the great channel and the idea to support you with books. I love that!
Oh my. Thanks so much. It really is appreciated.
Thanks!
Plo be like : I occupied Lebanon to fight the Israeli occupation
Israel sent them to Lebanon to destabilize the country. Ended up killing civilians and massacring women and children. These war crimes are disgusting and now have armed another group to keep the region shakey so they can receive billions in funds. What a shame they are!
Based
Leave Plo Kuhn Alone. IM SERIOUS.
Thats what happened bcs they tried first of all to fight from jordan but they failed so they raided lebanon. This event turned into a civil war where christians are against muslims and all parties whete against each other whether it was the plo , lebanese army , christian or muslim militias or even israel who were backing the christians and the lebanesr forces party.
Why? They are a terrorists organization
Nice compilation!
Brilliant job, what a time consuming task that must have been! I've never seen such an in-depth analysis of the civil war. Well done!
Ah yes, the best most unbiased source, Golda Meir
((( ✡️ )))
So you oppose her viewpoint and believe the PLO brought peace and prosperity to Lebanon?
3 hour video I better get the popcorn ready
Trail mix for me
Hot sauce straight out the bottle for me.
3hrs of selective facts, israeli propaganda and imperial apology
😂 Yep! Me thinking the same. 😊
im lebanese and ive been watching this video for more than 10 hours everytime i go back to the start because of how complicated it is, i thought i knew the civil war but i only knew 1%
The Druze religion is NOT a sect of Shia Islam in no way. It is an esoteric monotheistic and syncretic religion based on the teaching of Hamza ibn Ali Ahmad. Druze system even contains some of the works of Plato and Pythagoras. Now the Druze practice has elements of Islam, Hinduism, and bits of ancient philosophy.
FALSE. THEY ARE SHITES!!!!!!!........
the most underrated history channel...pls keep up with your long form content
There is an error at 14:28 where it says 1958 instead of 1948.
1:52:56 Why didn't the Lebanese Army enter the camps? This seems fairly obvious if we consider the motivations of the various actors.
The Lebanese Army didn't want the PLO in Lebanon anymore. The PLO's presence in Lebanon had led to Israel's invasion of Lebanon and caused the deaths of many Lebanese citizens. The potential existed for the Phalangist militia to "deal with" the PLO problem inside Lebanon and the Lebanese Army had no motivation to stop them from doing so. Neither did the IDF. It is only when you get to the highest level of Israeli government, the level that would have to deal with the fallout, that we find anyone who might have wanted to prevent the massacre.
These were women and children of the PLO. I don't think anybody really shed a tear over their deaths, outside of the PLO. The moral of the story: If you want somebody to truly care about your women and children, don't be a group of a-hole terrorists.
I'd add to this:
If you want people to care about your women and children, don't literally take Lebanese civilians as hostages, slaughter Maronite civilians and take sides in the civil wars of the country that hosts you, turning your guns on the people who opened their arms to you.
Looking back retrospectively and comparing this war with how Israel is going about the war in Gaza, I can only start questioning whether their “reporting” of the incidents was accurate, or it had its twists and turns to make them look less of “a bad guy” in this massacre and other massacres. Given they are ruled today by the same far right government and ideology that was during this war, and looking at the atrocities they committed in Gaza, I really doubt what we see here is exactly the truth. At the end of the day, history is always written by the winner.
Thank you for clubbing it all together!! This’ll make it easier to share!! Brilliant work!
My Man, you are a Saint for being able to construct this excellent video under such conditions. Well done.
Wow, excellent documentary. From the media you would never know that the Palestinians fought with just about everyone, druze, shia, syrians, lebanese, maronites, jordan, israel, phillangists, hezbollah, and even amongst themselves.
if the media was fair in the Israeli Palestinian conflict the idea of a Palestinian state wouldn't even exist anymore
They have unbelievable exaltation in the media and blindly supported by the Arab world and left wing useful idiots. Even now, few actively condemn Hamas.
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Always Palestenians leaders do problem and make decisions that make their people suffer.
Crazy is trying to do the same thing and expect different results.
Because Israhell funded just about everyone to attack Palestinians
Outstanding work.. a great and highly detailed, well balanced explanation of some extremely complicated events in the most complex part of the world..
I've been looking for a good comprehensive breakdown of Lebanon for years now.. it's always been such a dense thing to try to figure out, and yet always so Central to pretty much everything going on in the current age.. it's been easy enough to figure out the things going on in Iraq and Iran and most of the Arab states.. but for some reason Lebanon had always been this enigma that seemed centrally tied to all of them but only paid lip service so I really appreciate this by the bye.. also really appreciate you keeping 4x3 content in the 4x3 aspect ratio!
magic... or the other one elipses for atheists or milll... whatever
My dad fought in this war.
I even asked my cousin who served in the Lebanese military, and he said that the Civil War is such a complex topic, and that every person has a slightly different version of its, making it so hard to know exactly what happened.
@erik bengt I feel like that might be coming from a reflexive ideology that creates one of those self-fulfilling prophecies... It's amazing how animosity can breed animosity.
Does it give you purpose to have a focal point to fear? Would it be detrimental to dig a little bit further from the surface of that, and maybe, just for yourself explain why that is?
Approach it like a science experiment maybe... Apply similar historical patterns and events to other cultures and ideologies to see if they match up maybe.. see if the common denominator really is.. because they're Muslims.. or maybe it might actually be something else... Always check data with other data, and as with anything that worries you or frightens you.. try to understand it and maybe approach it with all of the input at hand... Rather than just assuming that the answer is what you thought it was all along, because the presentation and the equation seems familiar to a pre foregone conclusion..
Ideology is easy, that's why brands love it so much, that's why politicians use it that's why it drives cultures... And one of the biggest problems in human relations is the assumption that you're on the right team.. and others are on the wrong team.. because now we have teams in the first place.
@erik bengt I mean... I'm pretty sure the dragon disappeared a year ago or so.. shows up every once in a while and makes a public appearance you know kind of like proof of Life thing but.. if there's one thing the CCP is good at.. we can have billionaires.. but every once in a while we got to take one to the public square and let everybody know who is God now!
And I have it on good authority that dragon was... Well let's just say the last time we had a cult.. I mean we had to liquidate pretty much everything just to get the citizen value.. and sure some scales got knocked off on the way for its state sanction cremation and.. it's Bones have been mysteriously divvied up and may end up with private collectors but..
There's a box you know... It's on a shelf with all the rest of the state enemies that simply couldn't be made to function in an appropriate party manner or for positive benefit.. it's pretty big box actually surprisingly enough but you think a dragon would take a little bit to burn but.. that was actually kind of a feature cuz we were working on some tech and we needed a live subject...
Now if you excuse me.. what's your blood type? Asking for a friend..
Absolutely amazing ! Why aren't the Universities hiring you????????
Thank you so very much for your dedication to such comprehensive historical fact finding, hell of a mission and undoubtedly a labour of love!
As a person who is lebanese and lived in lebanon and my parents lived through those conflicts, I can say some of the stories told in the documentary are one side view and there's more into the stories.
Hard to take an outside look from within...
Sure bud😂😂
He’s pro christian and pro Israeli
So he’s supporting his kind
yeah ,sure
Actually
It is well described of what the hell happened and how the country was exploited by some proxies, that moved in after being thrown out of Jordan,
For sure their eye sight was pointed towards the southern border!
So the Civil War to them was more than convenient, justifying their Evil presence.
We left as well over 45 years ago, and we lost all what we had! In the name of who? LEBANON WAS THE GEM OF THE MIDDLE-EAST, LET ALONE ITS NATURAL BEAUTY.
please don't let me going, my old man's dream was to go back, he died and his wish died with him.
We left as homeless people migrating to a different country seeking peace and future, we were forced to leave. Enough with the proxy garbage and the arab hood and the myth that surrounds this narrative...
May be the other arab countries should have opened their doors to welcome those that ruined the country.
Thanks
Thanks for all the work you put into this. I was in high school in the early 80s and Lebanon was all over the news back then, but of course you cannot learn anything from the news (then or now), so it is interesting to get this full historical perspective on what was actually going on.
Du visat Libanon till mig det är snällt att göra och du är den bästaste youtubekanalen i hela världen
Great video! I am Lebanese and it is sad to watch knowing that most of the warlords now hold positions in the government and history is about to repeat itself, currently Suleiman franjiye might become our next president (the grandson of franjiye), and Jaajaa, gemayel, berri amongst others are still in power.
I just wanted to offer a few corrections as a Shia muslim:
1) We do not believe that Mussa al Sadr is in hiding, we say that he was kidnapped in Libya by Kaddafi, in fact Amal movement (the successors of Sadr's party) imprisoned kaddafi's son a few years ago in order to get more information on the whereabouts of Imam Mussa Al Sadr, but we all know that realistically, he is dead and not incarcerated.
2)Druze are not Shia, and they do not view themselves as shia either
Hey fellow Lebanese.. I was reading the comments before watching rhr video, and all was saying what a comprehensive work and such. But when I read your comment, and those two remarks you made about the video, made me think its not that well made after all. Such two mistakes are not to be ignored by this level of documentary.
So do you recommend to watch it anyway, or its not worth spending those 3.5 hours?
@@Santino369 Yes I totally recommend watching it fully, It is comprehensive, objective, and unbiased. Honestly, compared to our local media, these two "inaccuracies" are mild and tolerable, especially coming from a foreigner since we all know how little presence Lebanon has online so doing an in depth research is challenging at best.
@@Nabjab94 Aha, I see. So I will watch it and maybe we, as Lebanese, can discern such inaccuracies.
Thanks for the feedback, much appriceated 🙏
As a fellow shia you are correct 👍🏽👍🏽
Any sect refused Sunni Islam is considerably shiaa Islam even they are not recognized from shiaa but we know all of them established in the political conflict about imama & caliphate.. the rebels against Umayyad & Abbasid are different shiaa from 7 to 12 imam
Amazing video, but can someone explain what the 'SNF' is? He first mentions it at 18:27, and says this is the organisation led by Kamal Jumblatt, but I literally can't find anything online about an organisation called SNF involved in lebanon, much less one ran by Kamal Jumblatt.
Or am I just mishearing what he's saying?
I have been to Lebanon twice for no particular reason. I'm not Lebanese. Oh yes I remember all the amazing history and food.
They didn't trust the IDF to enter the camp, yet they were completely fine with letting in a paramilitary group that just lost it's leader and was out for revenge
Seems legit
Yea i find that werid too. Its like the IDF wanted to kill those civilians but didn't want to be held accountable internationally so they got the flaggeraints to do it for them.
This 👆
Wow. Excellent work. Well edited and put together.
I just did an oral history interview with my father about his experiences in Lebanon. He lived there since 1954-76. This was well done.
Incredibly detailed. I thought I knew the story until now…
Great job. And nice to see so many great books behind you.
"I'm even starting to like editing."
Poor Man's clearly lost his mind.
I listened through this video while doing yard work, and it was very informative. Thank you for such a broad and detailed account of such a tangled mess of a civil war. You do excellent work.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Lebanese here. I just started watching. I will post my comment later. This looks promising though and holy shit 3 hours. Let me warm some zaatar Man'oushe, and keep some Labne dip on the side, and a cup of tea. BRB. 🇱🇧
Tons of misses ... biased...pro Israel
@TheShahsMan First off, great effort by the creator. This was definitely well researched and put together. Putting everything into historical context is a must which is why I think he spent a good 30 minutes before leading up to the events of 1975 when war broke out. It's not easy making sense out of all of this and while I appreciate the effort I think more additional context could have been added to the various sects / parties / factions - involved.
If you go deep into 1975 and 1976 Maronite / Christian sub culture you will notice a strong right wing sentiment of Lebanese nationalism. I think that part could have been explored a little bit more, although Phalange / Leb forces was covered extensively in the video.
Also, while the Shia factions were covered, I think the video failed to justify their rise in popularity and how they emerged as strong players in the Lebanese political arena. Like I can't believe even Nabih Berri's name wasn't brought up...? (Not that I'm a fan but he's pretty much the most powerful man in Lebanon.) I felt also Sunni / Arab nationalism wasn't covered much here (1975~1978 I guess)
Finally, the point on Aoun's rise. How did he come up the ranks and where did he get his power from? That part wasn't covered extensively.
I get it that there are so many layers and sub layers that would turn this to a six hour video. Still, I'd strongly recommend the video for anyone that wants to unpack our complex history and politics.
@@Thunderotter2 yeah
3a zaatar? khayeh jebneh azbat sarahatan
@@BIGDADDUI hinne el tnen bya3mlo 7ar2a, bass eh ma meshkle bro. Jebne, zaatar, all good bro.
I have watched this video numerous times and each time I am in awe of the intelligence and strategy of Hafez al Assad
The amount or background work put in to make this detailed and comprehensive breakdown is greatly appreciated. Glad you took the time to put this together for us.
Amazing video dude!
Got to love how so much of the world's problems can boil down to "Europeans randomly drew lines on a map to determine politics completely ignoring the social, cultural, religious or ethnic reality of the region. The Balkans, Africa, Middle East...
It is near impossible to peacefully disassemble an empire… intellectually lazy to just blame it on Europeans.
@@specialted1Nonsense they could simply listened to the voice of people, but it would mean they had to forsake opportunity to exploit indigenous people.
@@ordennuevo469Literally proving what he is saying, what indigenous people? Lebanon alone has christian sunnis shia and druze that are 4 distinct groups, which opinion are you going to take into account? Which group are you going to look in the eye and say "you don't belong here", only christians wanted to make the country that we call Lebanon today, rest wanted Greater Syria (as in the land that is called Lebanon today being part of Syria), which side will you listen to and on what basis and how are you practically going to make it happen? They listened to christians for they're their allies and were the majority at the time, had they made greater Syria it would've led to problems all the same, christians wouldn't have accepted to live in a small enclave isolated and unprotected nor would muslims and druze accepted leaving that land, what were they supposed to do? Please do tell me and this is only Lebanon we're talking about here, I'm lebanese myself...
DIVERSITY is the problem, not the way Europeans divided land, unfortunately they irresponsably brought that problem home for themselves now...
Major Dan's reading of Beirut Fragments @43:10 was the funniest thing I've ever heard apart from the name "Tony Frangieh"
I am envious of your book collection.
Such a great video so well done….i couldn’t help but laugh hysterically when the puppies showed up…
I thoroughly enjoyed all 3 & 1/2 hours. Very interesting topic, thank you for your time and dedication.
Here is your "I watched it whole medal"🏅
Superb video
I am very proud of you sir, for putting all this effort. Keep going
The sensorship on this is incredible. Amazing thanks for this video and your knowledge. Wow just wow.
This is so complex I had a really hard time following what was going on and keeping everyone straight. I can't imagine how many details you must've omitted for the sake of coherency and still it's a labyrinth of factions, religions, and individual strongmen. Thanks for putting this together, it was an interesting watch.
Menachem Begin sounds like the beginning of an occultic chant.
It is not hard to understand. Palestinian militia had to flee because they get rekt by israel, they go to lebanon, they get into camps WITH THEIR WEAPONS. They got released and start rampaging against non muslims. They are joined by half the military who is muslim. They genocide non muslims, create road blockage and execute people who are non muslims (religion was written on the ID card).
Very well explained my dad was over seas in Lebanon twice doing peacekeeping with the Irish defence forces
It had to be Incredibly frustrating that negotiations repeatedly got up to the brink of acceptance on all sides but one & then friggin Assad just showed his whole ass. Over and over again.
“France went there to stop agenocide” 😂 Classic.
Where i live in the UK, during the 80's was known locally to be a bit rough. In the UK they like to twin their towns with towns from across the world. This sign read 'Welcome to Meir, twinned with Beirut.' I was young when this war was coming to an end, if it ever really has? I could never understand why they where fighting. It was/ is complicated. I later went on to tour Lebanon, i loved it, the people from all walks of life were among the most accommodating i have met on my travels. It's when you realize there is insidious influence far beyond anything you may have thought. I do not vote anymore. I hope one day that this country can be at peace. They seem to be up against it constantly.
What a fantastic documentary! Thanks Casual Historian, excellent work.
Influence from which side(s) if you don't mind me asking?
Amazing work! Thank you for this
its been a week since i finished watching this video, and i must say i find myself thinking about this whole civil war from time to time now. i had to comeback and comment on this. Just a incredible video, and i can tell a lot of hours went into making this, and at a time where i even doubt if "documentaries" are factual, channels like yours are amazing because viewers like me can just tell from the onset that you are dedicated to this work and that we can trust your genuine intentions.
side question: what is name of the piano track? really liked it ☺
Such a complex war in such a small country.
Thank you so much for this detailed video about the war, amazing work, not biased with well documented information. Cannot commend you enough for this
Little mistake about the birth of Israel. You comment its birth in 1958 ? Its 15/05/1948
Birth? You mean the start of the occupation
You are right, mate, about denouncing occupation! But, Lebanon was being occupying by no one other than Yasser Arafat... He started the Lebanese war, if you recall WELL. The Christian in Lebanon have asked the Israeli to come to the rescue. That's the historical truth, not the lies spread by those who filled their pocket with your money! Ask Arafat why she need 350 millions $ to live in Paris while your people are starving... At this very day, who is killing the economy of your beautiful country if no other than Hezbollah! You should study history, my friend, and not listening to lies that make you vulnerable. Have a nice one!
@@rumproast8643 That was the end of british occupation.
Occupation? 🤣🤣🤣
@@trygd100 Occupation of the land of Israel by the Ottoman's for 400 year, I hoop you mean ? 🤫
Thank you so much for clarifying this complex matter. And - could the presentation be slower?
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Am I the only person who has a problem with that non-stop loud background music?
Such an elaborate explanation of the situation coming from a foreigner.
We can see that you've put a lot of effort into it.
Thank you for highlighting events of arguably one of the most complex civil war in the middle east.
Thank you for this documentary. I am obsessed about the Lebanese Civil War but most of the material online is in Arabic which I don't speak or understand. Thank you SOOOO much!
Well done documentary. Thank you!
Excellent video. I listen to very dry documentaries and lectures, to fall asleep to. After 9 mins of this, I was enthralled and had to turn it off, until I could enjoy it, completely.
14:28 big mistake here!
Chamoun was never part of the socialist party he presided over his own National Liberal Party (LNP or Al Ahrar), a big player in the Lebanese right at the time
You forget the War criminal part.
what is the name of background music playing oud very slowly?
and very good and comprehensive documentary thanks for you work
History is better when your bias shows less.
by which I mean this video ia insanely biased towards maronites,
t. a maronite
As a Japanese outsider looking in, it was probably half justified as historically Muslims usually start the hostility more often and get even more fanatical in larger populations.
@@ChrisAulerich Because Lebanon is the homeland of the Maronites
Thanks for the deep dive, hope to see your channel grow and more vidoes in this style
If you going to make a video on the History of Lebanon ... or the Middle East its better that you DO NOT keep quoting from - Golda Meir - You are obviously very heavily biased in favour of Israel ....
@1:01:40, why are you showing a scene of a coastal highway in NSW, Australia????
There isn't enough stock or archival footage of Lebanon to illustrate the story, so you make do.
@@CasualHistorian plenty of puppy videos.... and why so concerned abot age restriction
This is going to be interesting
Amazing video
I can't get enough of your content...
Religion has a lot to answer for.
Sorry you don't understand the mentality of the middle East.It is only partly about religion.people in these countries cannot work together...they all want power and don't really trust each other.and a terrorists are brutal and primitive thugs that get high on killing and torturing.(though I agree that Islam has a lot to answer for in providing justification for this violence against 'the infidels')
Amazing video, just a small word of advice, it's better to consult locals regarding the pronunciation of names because many times they're pronounced extremely differently to how you're pronouncing them based on just reading them as they are read in english. Just don't constructive criticism, it's a great video
You have a lot of inaccuracies, my family is Palestinian Catholic and i come from a long line of Marxist Pan Arabs
Contrary to what you said we have a great relationship with our Muslim Arab neighbors, in fact some of the most notable Palestinian pan Arabs were Christians
Wadi Haddad and George Habash
Also it feels like you are biased towards favoring Israel
All "Palestinians" are t3rr0r157s. Zero Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are not. There are plenty of Arabs who don't call themselves Palestinians and are friendly to Jewish people.
Says the one who is obviously anti Israel.
@@legendarygodzilla3577
Right? Imagine unironically thinking the Jewish people aren't the indigenous population.
@@thebigdawgj yeah. Palestinians constantly deny the fact Jews are indigenous.
@@legendarygodzilla3577 i literally have citizenship
That was exciting! I watched the whole thing!
Thanks so much for this great doc, and trying to cover Lebanon is super complex. If anyone wants to see, in 2000 Al Jazeera Arabic made a 15-hour documentary (!) and it was all online last I checked, and it has english subtitles (I speak ~mid level Arabic, so I needed that).
The odd, or sad part of the video is that so many community leaders that were interviewed were killed by 2006 or so. Such as George Hawi, the head of the Lebanese Communist party was blown up near where I was headed.
My only critique here is glossing over the deeper histories: Lebanon as a carthagib
ian colony, how Alex the zGreat built a land to reach and attack a castle in Saida (the land he deposited is stll there! Lebanese wood was high priced, and purple dye was made in Tyr for royalty or emperors.
In the first Crusade when the Maronites left Eastern Orthodoxs Christianity and wrote to the pope that they wanted to join the Catholic church (there are too many Eastern Christian groups at that time: copts, Armenians, different greek ones (Byzantine saw itself as the new rome and used Latin until Justinian. And there are of course many syncratic religious groups (almost wiped out) like the Druze, Shabbak, Kaka'i, Alevi and the Alawi of Syria (they never thought themselves as Muslims, but Hafez Assad declared it. They still honor Christian + Muslim holidays, women never cover themselves, etc.
>>To note, I first visited Lebanon in 2001 (after Israel finally withdrew, returned to do research i Palestinian camps, and later 2 years working to aid Syrian refugees. Ive been back 3x just to see friends
Frankly, its kind of incredible there isnt a new civil war there now (they came close) with almost 2m refugees in a nation of 4-5m. I still have many friends there plugged into being kind to all, and mixed Christian/Muslim marriages. Also, many are still atheists. Note: the Shi'a are actually much more Liberal than the Sunnis. Hizbullah drinks beer, but its banned in Sunni areas, like Saida.
If you or anyone have any desire to know more about all refugees there, Im happy to help anyone!
I also bumped into the late great Brit journalist Robert Fisk, who wrote the amazing book "Pity the Nation." He had been there before the Civil War, but also covered the largely forgotten Algerian Civil war, and Palestine, Iraq and Syria. I met him in Gaza once before. A great man, but liked younger (over 18!) women :P
Mixed Muslim & Christian marriages exist and end up with families either becoming Christian or Muslim. Many families share the same surnames. Arabic first names are prominent in Christian areas.
Great video my man!
as a syrian arab christian, i can tell you this whole series is shoddily researched with a bias towards western powers and a misrepresentation of the conflicts of the arab world and the palestinian cause, in the words of my mother koul kharra e maouta, you know nothing about us even after 3 hours and 26 minutes
So what is wrong?
Throwing insults won't save you, I'm a lebanese christian, argue with me what did he say that was wrong
Damn! You did very good with this comprehensive documentary.
Well done! From my limited perspective fairly presented and explained! The end is still koas and unsettled. How does one find peace when the major and minor actor have issues going back at least fifteen hundred years and longer. The issues are more emotional than tangible, moving more to endemic genetic proportions. Thank you!
What's with that map of the USSR @ 17m that shows Kaliningrad, Latvia., and Estonia as part of the USSR but not Lithuania?
This was interesting but it seemed pretty one sided. I wish it used more plo/Muslim Arab sources. It seemed like an Israeli history of the Lebanese civil war.
Why usung sources of terrorists?
very baised
Thank you for the great effort you have put into this. Cheers
I watched all six videos before and loved this. One question that comes to mind is - I don’t hear anything about the Orthodox. Did they have any involvement or alliances? Militias?
The Orthodox were small in number, and tended to side with the Baathists due to their, at least on paper, tolerance for Christians.
@@CasualHistorian Baathism were founded by a Christian wdym "atleast on paper" lmao.
This is not an objective, historical account. I gave up an hour in due to the biased presentation. Lots of citing of Western, Israeli, and, to a lesser extent, Maronite views of events without any views from Lebanese Muslims or Palestinians. Treats the Palestinians in Lebanon as a monolith, and uses the never-useful term “terrorist” throughout. Save yourself some time and skip this. For a more credible history, I recommend reading Robert Fisk’s “Pity the Nation.”
Somebody needs to hold those puppies accountable for their atrocities! They always show up at the most horrific tragedies.. coincidence I think not.
I am a lebanese and i live in lebanon. No one in lebanon have ever made a documentary like this one.. thank u
The “only” comment calling out them evil “Puppies”👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼
Fantastic work, exceptionally informative and narrated remarkably well.
1- great video
2- everyone will tell u decide the vidoe, you don’t have to! They can just pause .. it’s good to see the full thing
3- sometime when you use letters like IRGC it’s useful to remind audiences from time to time that it’s is for example the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.. and so one.. there is soo many parties and so many shortcuts and it get confusing
4- I understand your background, but with all the efforts you do, please try to be a little more fair.. it’s can’t always be that Arabs are evil and Israelis are angles all the way
I’m from egypt and I know Arabs where not angles all the ways .. but also we are not that bad .. there is so much depth and pain to the story
Overall great work and I enjoyed it
Where does he claim that Israelis are angels and Arabs are evil?
Great video . The only thing I would suggest is a date on screen every once and while on the next video..
thanks so much casual historian for making this video, there are several points I felt could have been expanded from the PLO/Arab point of view and what was also perhaps not emphasised enough were the disastrous human and environmental consequences of this conflict. additionally i thought the role of the british in partitioning territory that aligns with its colonial logics in other parts of the world was under played. but all the same i really appreciate the time effort energy and commitment needed to put this together. please keep going and making more videos. tx
I feel the same but then that he should have emphasized how bad the christians had it (humanitarianly) because of the arabs.
@@malcomx1924 yes both ways, its not easy to document the story of this conflict. the more you read and talk to people the more complex it becomes and the less you know...