The SAD truth about alcohol markers (that no one talks about)

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  • Alcohol markers are really fun to make art with, until you realize there’s a HUGE downside… 😳
    But don’t despair! Find out how to overcome the biggest issue with using alcohol markers, so that you can enjoy them to the fullest. 💖
    NOTE: The swatches shown at 00:42 are the most extreme examples of how much colors can fade or shift. Don't worry, most colors won't change this much over 2.5 years! The swatches were never kept in direct sunlight; they were only exposed to a moderate amount of ambient indoor lighting as I periodically used the color chart in my art room. 😊
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    01:35 Why alcohol markers fade
    03:44 Does it even matter?
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    08:34 How to make alcohol marker art last FOREVER
    10:09 Selling your alcohol marker art
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  • @thaneeya
    @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts about this! 💖 It's certainly producing a lively discussion with various viewpoints - great food for thought for anyone who's still unsure of how they feel about it.
    I'm still an avid alcohol marker fan and won't stop using them anytime soon. 😊
    p.s. If you want to learn all my favorite alcohol marker techniques, check out my Ultimate Guide to Using Alcohol Markers: www.art-is-fun.com/ultimate-guide-to-using-alcohol-markers 😃

    • @forkshifter
      @forkshifter หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Does laminating help any tho?

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      My understanding is that using a laminate that is UV-resistant may help the artwork last longer when exposed to UV light (and may protect the artwork from water damage), but the alcohol marker dye will still fade over time, due to the innate chemical properties of the dye itself. Lamination isn't considered an archival preservation technique. I'd say it's up to you, if it's something you want to experiment with. 😊

    • @Quickbite2
      @Quickbite2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂😂😂 was thinking I didn't ever have that problem then realized I always keep my artwork in sketchbooks portfolios and drawers so I might if I actually had it out

    • @XUtionerx
      @XUtionerx 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      put it on a scanner upside down turn it into a jpeg and crop it

    • @anitacrumbly
      @anitacrumbly 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's sad to see that so many people are discouraged by this news but there is no need. the way I view art is it's alive once it's completed by the artist during the lifetime of the piece it will go through different life stages that's one reason why art restoration is a job. So the fact that these markers aren't permanent and will fade is just part of the medium's personality and something you and should someone want to buy your piece need to know but it's not the end of world it's just a part of the medium. Bonus for being lucky to live 25 years post the invention of a scanner and being able to scan your artwork with your phones if need be that the world will always know what the original colors were supposed to look like.

  • @lostinwonderart
    @lostinwonderart หลายเดือนก่อน +834

    Alcohol markers are an illustration medium. They aren’t meant for finished artwork. They’re meant for work that is created for a specific purpose to be reproduced. Such as for book illustrations, prints/posters, advertising, etc…. They should not use markers for finished pieces to sell.

    • @Waspinmymind
      @Waspinmymind หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      That? Doesn’t? Like don’t the people who buy them as prints want the prints also to last forever?

    • @charou_studio
      @charou_studio หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      ​@@Waspinmymind Well, it doesn’t matter if the original piece of a print is made with oil paints or alcohol markers since it’s only a reproduction, the lightfastness will depend on the ink use for printing.

    • @supme7558
      @supme7558 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So pointless

    • @Whimsy.viviana
      @Whimsy.viviana หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not pointless, and you can sell it, just give direct instructions on how to store the art piece. Art is fun and its more fun to experience with every meduim. Alcholo marker one of the best and fastest drawing tools. Give it a try 🩷​@supme7558

    • @Fruitflyinurcloset
      @Fruitflyinurcloset หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Idc I will still use😨🤠🤓

  • @teentitansrock88
    @teentitansrock88 หลายเดือนก่อน +514

    Art historians are going to LOVE YOU and this video someday for digitizing the comparison of the markers changes over time. Using it to try and estimate what existing pieces would have looked like originally.

    • @AlexaSmith
      @AlexaSmith หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Assuming those art historians will be able to find this video and play it and understand it 😂

    • @TrashyWaffle
      @TrashyWaffle หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Thats assuming anything digital will survive that long…

    • @reaverkai
      @reaverkai 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Sarah Burns Studio does this kinds of test studies a lot with different brands of gouache (and watercolors maybe too?), she tests lightfastness among many other things, paper tests too. Its greatly informative

    • @aquaintsound
      @aquaintsound 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I'm a library scientist and I'm literally gonna share this video with other librarians including archivists

    • @corriemcginnis4400
      @corriemcginnis4400 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      🤦‍♀️

  • @yuna6705
    @yuna6705 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

    This is why I usually keep my alcohol marker drawings in my sketchbook, instead of hanging them up, since they won't fade as fast like that

    • @Superdudehatesmilk
      @Superdudehatesmilk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been doing this as well, but I had no idea they'd fade otherwise. 😂

    • @danielle-bi3tk
      @danielle-bi3tk 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i do that too but my artwork yellows after a few weeks

  • @SquirtleHK
    @SquirtleHK 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    Oh! When storing alcohol marker art, make sure you have a blank paper between each artwork!! My red and brown Shuttle Art alcohol markers bleed yellow onto the paper above and below them in storage!!

    • @user-mv5iv1re2b
      @user-mv5iv1re2b 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That has also happened to me and I was so upset about it. Now I take photos of my art.

    • @danielle-bi3tk
      @danielle-bi3tk 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i thought i was the only one experiencing this

  • @Heather2D
    @Heather2D หลายเดือนก่อน +338

    I don’t care that they fade because I love the process of coloring with them.

    • @saix_unicorn
      @saix_unicorn หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      it's more a problem that commissionners will face

    • @botarakutabi1199
      @botarakutabi1199 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Yeah, you shouldn't really care unless you want to sell your pieces. I would still scan your art if you can though, so you at least are able to view the piece with its intended colors.

  • @SquirtleHK
    @SquirtleHK 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    Yup! I knew before getting alcohol markers that they fade, so I'm diligent to scan scan scan right when I finish the art! I recommend displaying a print of the scan! Try to consider the scan as precious of a version of the artwork as the original is☺

    • @T-Minus10s
      @T-Minus10s 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What is a good scanner that i should get? I’m new to the scanning artwork process and have no idea which one to get lol.

  • @thinkerdreamersketcherspy
    @thinkerdreamersketcherspy หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    To those who are sad about their art not lasting: please do your own lightfast testing! It's very easy and you get a clear idea which of your colours are the most problematic.
    For example, if you take the advice of using coloured pencils with solvents or watersoluble pencils, you need to figure out how much you can dilute the colours. Watersoluble pencils especially are notoriously prone to fading when used in washes!

    • @nobody-nk8pd
      @nobody-nk8pd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for this info! Like, I know markers are prone to fading, to the point that lightfast-testing them is pretty pointless, but I never suspected watercolour pencils of doing that.

    • @jwrightgardening
      @jwrightgardening 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! I did not know this about watercolor pencils.

  • @LunaLove87
    @LunaLove87 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    My mom is a working illustrator and she has Copic marker illustrations from 2001 that are SUPER vibrant and haven’t faded LOL She says you need to color on acid free paper and storie the art work in acid free binders/plastics. Also, keep them away from UV rays and moisture. They’re obviously going to look different in 80 years, but 20+ years later and they look immaculate👍

  • @SorcierLunaire
    @SorcierLunaire หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Weirdly, I have a swatch book that has barely faded, and I filled it well over five years ago. It could be the paper quality or chemical composition, or perhaps it’s the fact that I kepe them completely out of light.

    • @pinkcloud3126
      @pinkcloud3126 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      It's because you kept them in the dark

    • @Stroggoii
      @Stroggoii 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah if you just keep your alcohol marker art in archival sleeves on a binder, you could browse through it every day and still the deterioration will slow down over 90%.

  • @wintersprite
    @wintersprite หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    I learned from a couple of other art TH-camrs when I found out about alcohol markers that they aren’t lightfast (it might have been from a brand comparison video). They’re mainly used for illustrations that will be reproduced (so could be useful for something you want to sell on Redbubble or a similar site, or an drawing you want to sell prints of but not the original. From what I’ve heard, they’re popular with manga illustrations.
    I also like just playing around with them in my sketchbooks or coloring in a coloring book.
    Many mediums have varying lightfastness, depending on brand, colors/color groups, etc.

    • @magical571
      @magical571 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes, but non as bad as alcohol markers, by far. the only thing coming close would be, in general, "highlighter" colors in any medium (fluorescent pigments begin fading inmediately)

  • @thinkerdreamersketcherspy
    @thinkerdreamersketcherspy หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I am mainly a coloured pencil artist but when I use markers I don't care the artwork will fade. Markers are fairly new to my work and I went in with the knowledge they can fade in days. I've been selling my art for nearly 30 years and I choose lightfast materials where possible. When I get new supplies I will immediately separate the non-lightfast colours. That way I can make informed choices and it's easier to inform a buyer about the colours used.

  • @onozayte8701
    @onozayte8701 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It has become really common for people to use alcohol markers as a base for realistic colored pencil drawings so the artist doesn't have to layer and burnish as much, saving time and hand pain. It's such a shame the nature of dyes isn't talked about enough as it can really be awful for people who spent a lot of time on commissions. Theres reasons some art supplies are labeled with the term archival

  • @BabyShenanigans
    @BabyShenanigans หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    First time viewer here. How do you only have 5200 subs?? The production value of your videos is so high! Very educational too. Last year I painted a stone with sunflowers for my garden using acrylic paints. I used green, yellow, orange, and black. When I was done, I sealed it with a spray-on varnish. So far all the colors look amazing still, except for the orange, which completely disappeared within a couple of months!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Thanks so much for your positive feedback on my videos! Glad you found it useful. 😃 Sorry to hear your orange color disappeared from your stone painting. It's a good reminder that acrylics fade at different rates too! I love fluorescent acrylics, but they are definitely not lightfast! 😁

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      so agree, she deserves many more subs, I subbed within 5 minutes of watching her first video because it was just that good! 👍🏻

    • @lostinwonderart
      @lostinwonderart หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If your rocks are outside, you should use a UV varnish.

    • @BabyShenanigans
      @BabyShenanigans หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@lostinwonderart I used a spray-on varnish that was rated for outside use, so I assumed it would protect from UV.

    • @zaraheart
      @zaraheart หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looks like they have only been posting for about a year and they don’t have a lot of videos for that time too

  • @handleiguesss
    @handleiguesss หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    So, they're probably great for making art you want to scan and make prints of! Thank you for talking about this, had no idea

  • @SunnyCress
    @SunnyCress หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    personally i don’t really mind, life is fleeting and i’ll enjoy my art on the wall in a frame for as long as i want, then replace it if it starts looking bad

    • @JJ-el6qx
      @JJ-el6qx 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Make a print of it maybe!

    • @magical571
      @magical571 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      it only matters if you are a proffessional artist, to be fair.

    • @SunnyCress
      @SunnyCress 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@magical571 yeah exactly, i personally don’t care about my own art for personal use failing

    • @Knight0fbl00d
      @Knight0fbl00d 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👏 👏 👏

  • @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts
    @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I dont like alcohol , i cant stand the smell, but i subscribed whithin 30 seconds of your introduction, what a lovely personality. Your art is amazing.

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Aww thank you so much for your lovely comment!! 😃 That means a lot to me! 🥰

  • @PartanBree
    @PartanBree 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I didn't know the difference between dye and pigment before - thanks!
    I believe the reason watercolour paintings don't sell for as much as oils is because historically, watercolour paints were very fugitive. We now have the technology to prevent them fading, but the perception of watercolour as a "temporary" medium lives on. The whole business of trying to make colours last in art is really interesting, thousands of years of experimentation.

  • @mad_hatt
    @mad_hatt หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I’m gonna get cheaper ones then since it apparently doesn’t matter😅 I still enjoy using the markers so I’m not gonna ditch them entirely. Just gonna start scanning my art to my laptop and avoiding the expensive stuff. Arrtx alcohol markers from now on! Thanks!

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I’m so miffed to find this out after I saved for years for a set of Copics…not that I was ever going to sell the art I made but still. I guess I’ll just use them in sketchbooks and take pictures of the art. 👍🏻🎨
      The scanning idea is great!

    • @sheanartisthunty
      @sheanartisthunty หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’ve been using off brand alcohol markers for awhile and they really are comparable for the most part. I find them at great prices at Ross and TJ Maxx

    • @wintersprite
      @wintersprite หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Some brands still blend and are less streaky than others. Also, some are refillable while others are not.

    • @mad_hatt
      @mad_hatt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wintersprite true. I liked the artist loft ones when I tried those. They’re pretty cheap too!

    • @claravian
      @claravian หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol me too. But I must admit, there's still no cheap brand that can match the elasticity and smoothness of Copic's super brush esp for blending :') Ohuhu is close 2nd tho

  • @syzygy4365
    @syzygy4365 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Found this out when I was making resin art. It's one of the reasons I never opened up my own shop. Alcohol ink fades. Podwers shift, resin yellows, flowers wither. It just didn't seem fair to customers. At least I had fun.

  • @KitsuyuutsuR
    @KitsuyuutsuR 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I started using watercolor pencils about a year ago and I found I enjoyed them so much more than alcohol based markers. I feel I have more control over blending with them and they seem to stay pigmented nicely. I also have watercolor markers which blend even nicer, but you know what will fade. Still makes lovely work, though.

  • @briansmith303
    @briansmith303 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What I find so curious is how fugitive the blue dyes are. I''m so used to seeing that in reds and yellows.

  • @thdraws
    @thdraws หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Excellent information. The lightfastness of coloured pencils is equally mixed. Faber Castell Polychromos are very good, but many Prismacolor colours are fugitive. There are brands like Derwent Lightfast and Caran D'Ache Luminance that are formulated for maximum lightfastness.

    • @wintersprite
      @wintersprite หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think many mediums vary, especially with certain colors/groups. Paints can vary with how lightfast they are for the different colors.

    • @thdraws
      @thdraws หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@wintersprite For sure. Lightfastness is definitely something to be mindful of in art materials. Good quality brands like Golden and Windsor and Newton make a point of including that in their labelling

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Many of the Derwents are not lightfast

    • @thdraws
      @thdraws 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dshe8637 Absolutely. Derwent has a specific line, "Derwent Lightfast" which they claim are all in the 50-year lightfastness range.

    • @tropezando
      @tropezando 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I didn't know about the Derwent lightfast pencil line, but I have been using their Inktense pencils and blocks because their pigments have been mixable with acrylic fabric medium and lightfast (for at least a few years).

  • @SillyNep
    @SillyNep หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I feel like it depends for me but i mostly wouldn't mind, even just with your own examples, i still like how the art looks even with the faded colours. So i kinda feel like its just letting the art change on its own in a way.

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I really like your perspective -- "just letting the art change on its own in a way". That's a nice way of looking at it. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 😃

  • @venusalexa7367
    @venusalexa7367 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Mine are 8+ years old, are on a wall in front of a window and are all super vibrant and the same as old footage i have with them in the background. A lot of them are laminated tho

  • @Whimsy.viviana
    @Whimsy.viviana หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ive been using markers for years it didnt evaporate. Just store it well in a cool place away from sun and should be okay. Yes it does evaporate under certain circumstances. Also great video , giving knowledge to people a lot of people assume they can leave the drawing out and still be the same

  • @charlottesmom
    @charlottesmom หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Coming from a watercolor background lightfastness and fugitive are terms I hear a lot! I had zero idea my Copics are not lightfast….BUMMER!! I’ll use them in my sketchbooks though and take it as a quirk of the medium. 🎨
    Your scanner covered with stickers gave me a huge smile! 👍🏻😄

    • @AuroraDeLirio
      @AuroraDeLirio 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I appreciate how colorfastness is even specified by individual color in professional watercolor brands, as well as opacity, granulation and other key characteristics. I wish other mediums were as detailed in their descriptions!

  • @wigglyfruit4708
    @wigglyfruit4708 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    It really doesn’t matter what happens to the artwork. I’ll only care about my own art as long as I’m alive. That’s why I scan or photograph my art. The physical artwork isn’t too important anyway if I have a digital copy. I’m just gonna have a giant stack of artwork that just builds up around my room and not have any room for more art if I keep holding on to drawings and stuff. The drawings might also get damaged in a disaster if I don’t keep a copy them digitally

    • @magical571
      @magical571 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "I’ll only care about my own art as long as I’m alive", i mean....to be fair, unless you die tomorrow, your alcohol marker art WILL fade faster than any other medium in existance, it doesn't take decades, just 2 years or so. the only worse choice would be to make art with highlighters (fluorescent pigments fade inmediately)

  • @amateurcolourist
    @amateurcolourist 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I found using alcohol markers to "underpaint" my pictures then use coloured pencils over them - makes the colours look amazing.
    Especially in my colouring books, I would like to see you do a video on that maybe also

  • @TMcocoa
    @TMcocoa หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I got my first copics in 2010-2011 and alcohol markers not being lightfast was a huge topic back then but I see it’s not talked about that much anymore. I consider markers as a fun medium that I would use for sketching but not for anything I would sell unless it’s a print. Not sure how nuri durr sells his originals knowing that (love his work )

    • @magical571
      @magical571 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i think it's mostly because very few people sticked to them beyond quick thumbnails among proffessional artists (or just scanning inmediately and selling prints). for the most part, you see either the hobbists who like either coloring books or manga drawing sticking for this material in any more meaningful degree, so there really is no point on arguing lightfastness there, those are the type of people who, for the most part, won't care about a word regarding lightfastness so long as they find the medium pretty and covenient. and the works for them, for the most part, will remain in a drawer or a book, so it's even less relevant.

    • @TMcocoa
      @TMcocoa 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@magical571 honestly I’m not worried about light fast pass 30yrs

  • @claravian
    @claravian หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Yeah I realized this lightfastness problem right after I picked up a bunch of alcohol markers, that's why I prioritize the sensation of using the markers rather than how it looked later lol. That's also why I only bought markers with brush nibs, and after trying a bunch of diffrent brand, either cheap or expensive, now I understood that its not the ink that makes copic expensive, but rather cuz of the quality of their superbrush that made them sooo enjoyable to use :')

    • @magical571
      @magical571 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah, cause when it comes to ink, alcohol ink is actually cheap to make lol. they aren't sticking to any single pigment confections or astm ratings, they can use fluorescent mixtures liberally, multi pigment mixes, etc. it doesn't matter since they are not made to last at all.

    • @AlexaFaie
      @AlexaFaie 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Import costs are what really affect the price point for anyone outside of Japan. They're much cheaper there.

  • @ciomaria6137
    @ciomaria6137 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In art history class I had learned that any blue dyes (and even some pigments) are more fugitive than yellows, oranges, and browns. This is why blues, greens, violets and some darker reds/maroons are affected.
    This can be seen in historical pieces of clothing, tapestries, and rugs that degrade/fade.

  • @bjdollcoloredpencil3273
    @bjdollcoloredpencil3273 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you, that you made this video. There are artist out their using markers for their expensive original comission work, and I like that someone address this issue in a video.

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The solution to that is for the recipient to scan the original and keep it in the dark, and display a print of the scan.

  • @isaacclarke9554
    @isaacclarke9554 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I'm glad you made this video, you're right I rarely ever hear other artists (and YTers) talking about this. I remember the first time I learned this I was soooooo incredibly saddened but relieved since I make it a habit of scanning my traditional artwork!

  • @lucys1584
    @lucys1584 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Didn't know that expensiv markers would fade too 🫢
    I'm very thankful for this information!
    Good Vid! ☺️💖

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So glad it was helpful! Thank you for your comment! 😃

  • @jpmlna
    @jpmlna หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    THANK-YOU SO MUCH for the information! I was quite confused as to why some of my swatches from 3 years ago look so different from the fresh colour that comes out from the markers. I honestly thought it was my fault for not doing a proper swatch then. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Anyway to answer your question, I do art for myself only so it doesn't bother me that marker art doesn't last long. However, it does also clear up something else for me - I've been wondering whether to replenish some of my marker colours but now I've decided not to. I'll just continue using the markers until there's no more ink left. Anyway my main art focus has always been watercolour painting.😀Great video!!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So glad this info was helpful to you! 😃 It can be quite a shock when you first notice how different your colors look a few years later. I try to redo my color charts every year, so that I can be sure I'm looking at an accurate color chart when I pick my colors! 😁 Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  • @arte_la_luna4995
    @arte_la_luna4995 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Really useful info here. I had no idea that alcohol makers fade so quickly!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks for commenting! I'm so glad my video was helpful to you! 😃

  • @thatwasverypunny.-.
    @thatwasverypunny.-. หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    *me, a strictly digital artist that has no plans of picking up traditional art any time soon, much less has the money to even afford alcohol markers* : ah, yes this is definitely information that I needed to know at this very moment
    lol jokes aside, very insightful video!

  • @MissShembre
    @MissShembre 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That explains why I had to recolor one of my drawings! I thought it had just sun faded

  • @carmenvogels-aagaard5559
    @carmenvogels-aagaard5559 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I do not worry about fading at all. I usually make photo's of my work, so 1 box ticked off. I normally make cards to send to family and friends. They love my cards, but only for a few weeks. LOL They will not keep it for ever. I know that, so I am not worried. I love my alcoholmarkers!

  • @MinaF99
    @MinaF99 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I believe W&N sell or used to sell ”pigment markers” which are lightfast

  • @heartsaliveart
    @heartsaliveart หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I use alcohol markers as the base colors for my mixed media pictures. I also photograph my art

  • @JennaGetsCreative
    @JennaGetsCreative 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I scan every alcohol marker piece I create as soon as it's done, and store them in boxes. Anything that's getting displayed gets varnished, but I don't use markers in commissions.

  • @lambtoon
    @lambtoon หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Maybe it’s the amount of layers I’ve always done but my pieces done over 25 years ago still look vibrant to me.

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Because you have nothing to compare them with

    • @Knight0fbl00d
      @Knight0fbl00d 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This video is nuts. Besides, nothing lasts forever and unless you get famous your art will be largely forgotten after a few generations. That's just life.

  • @LeeAnnahsCreations
    @LeeAnnahsCreations หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is why I always apply colored pencil over my marker layer.

  • @gemstone108
    @gemstone108 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just like them because of the texture. You can’t really get the same flat smoothness with a tiny bit of paper texture without brush strokes with something like paint or digital :( (yes, I have used marker-style brushes for procreate but those force you to layer over and over to get the desired saturation and you can’t lift your hand or else it fucks up. I know real markers are kinda the same but it’s DIFFERENT idk…)

  • @KittyCraic
    @KittyCraic 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just unlocked a core memory with this. Wee me being gutted that my refrigerator “art” didn’t look as vibrant as my colouring book “art”. Was on the refrige for YEARS: many of the colours turned almost pastel. Also remember the mothership placing dried out pens in a jar of vinegar to revive them. My colouring books had a weird pickle stenk about them 😅

  • @woolpuppy
    @woolpuppy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Watercolors have this problem too, but they are made with pigment. It's ultraviolet exposure in the sun from a window.

  • @coconutdreams1238
    @coconutdreams1238 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I only use alcohol markers in doodles for my journals and I've noticed that they look pretty much the same as they used to years ago :)
    But art that I've made on paper and stored on my desk has notably gotten a little less vibrant.

  • @syddlinden8966
    @syddlinden8966 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Digital decay is also a thing. Remember to have redundant backups and copy things to updated storage formats every 10 or so years.

  • @entercreativename
    @entercreativename หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really glad to have seen this! I've been considering getting a smaller set of alcohol markers, though I usually have been using watercolor and through my life, have not cared much for using markers in general. I think for now I'll save my money and put it back into future supplies when I need more of what I have been using the most.

  • @Anne_Onymous
    @Anne_Onymous 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So glad this was discussed!
    Kinda sad. I guess one could take high resolution scans of their work for permanent preservation, but it's obviously just not the same as the original.

  • @fuzzydragons
    @fuzzydragons หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I honestly thought this was basic common knowledge about markers, even with copics 😛

  • @CeeC_CeeC
    @CeeC_CeeC หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I haven’t used Copic and other markers in years because I mainly draw on ipad, but i miss using them. Digital art is just cleaner and i can erase and redraw infinitely, and i can adjust the colors until im happy with them.

  • @MadisonBriggsArtchick
    @MadisonBriggsArtchick 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You are super talented and very good at video creation. I appreciate learning about this situation before I attempt to use any alcohol markers. As a painter and mixed media artist, I have always only used pigment markers. As a graphic designer/art director for print media, I used to use alcohol markers for graphic design color overlays that were not the final art. I think I will probably avoid using these kind of markers on my work as I want my vibrant colors to stay vibrant. Thank you!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks so much for your positive feedback on my videos ~ it means a lot to me! 🥰 Thank you also for sharing your thoughts about alcohol markers!

  • @caitlinn8616
    @caitlinn8616 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So this is why my old art looks worse than I remember it being....
    Thank you!

  • @Buffylove27
    @Buffylove27 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just ran across this video, and you did an excellent job with explaining, providing options, and a very good pace! I look forward to seeing more of your videos!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for your comment! I'm so glad my video was helpful to you! 😃🎨✨

  • @caustic.caffeine
    @caustic.caffeine หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    digital artist here ; i kinda feel like i stumbled into a conversation i wasn’t supposed to listen to xD this is all very interesting though, i’ve been considering practicing traditional art so this is all very cool

  • @amypanddirtytoo1926
    @amypanddirtytoo1926 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I don't care about my alcohol marker art. Because I already know they're fugitive so when I create something with them it's with the knowledge that it's going to fade in a few days or weeks, whether I leave them in the dark or not. Like in my sketchbook which is just for fun and practice! Or, like you said, if I just plan on scanning the image to post on social media! And if anyone would like a copy, that is exactly what they will get: a copy!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts! That sounds like the right approach! 😃

  • @fkhan2006
    @fkhan2006 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you are an amazing teacher! you present that information really really well! You speak clearly and give so many options about alternatives and solutions!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate your positive feedback on my video and teaching style! 😃🎨🌟

  • @Draconiangem
    @Draconiangem หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Scanning them into my computer is my main form of presentation. ;) They stay in protected folders and sketchbooks otherwise.

  • @Lunangel
    @Lunangel หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Awww this makes me sad. I recently got into using Ohuhu alcohol markers as they are so fun to color with but it does worry me that the colors will end up fading away. 😢

    • @cgilbert210
      @cgilbert210 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think they’ll be okay if you’re using a sketchbook where light won’t hit it. You can always photograph your art or scan it when you’re done to preserve it.

    • @Lunangel
      @Lunangel หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cgilbert210 ooh. I do try to keep my notebooks away from strong light. And that's a very good idea. Thank you so much! ❤️

  • @icannotbeseen
    @icannotbeseen 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love paint markers. I have a large set of Karin decobrush pens and they are lovely. It’s like a very, very convenient way to paint, once you find a paper that works well with them.

  • @iSheree
    @iSheree หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Take a photo or scan your artwork. Enjoy the process instead.

  • @sofia_aa
    @sofia_aa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i did a lightfastness test on a cheap marker set i bought. I wasnt expecting much, but the colors did fairly well after a couple weeks, except the violet lol, that one was completely gone after a few days!

  • @Doodlebirds1
    @Doodlebirds1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use pencils with marker and that’s probably another reason for less fading on my works.
    Then again I use archival paper, seal the originals in plastic and then store them in a dark folio in a dark place. My stuff hasn’t faded that much at all as a result.
    This is still important information for people to know before hanging up marker art or selling it mind you.

  • @danielle-bi3tk
    @danielle-bi3tk 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    omg thank u so much i thought something was wrong with my supplies cause no one talks about it

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad my video was helpful to you! 😃

  • @SuperDuckyWho
    @SuperDuckyWho 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh wow! I had no idea they did this and I have a feeling a lot of artists don't, so thanks for making this! I'm sure they still have their purpose but for art someone's planning to gift or sell as an original (and not a print) it doesn't seem like a good choice. It does make me a little sad but like you said... all pigments fade eventually. Even my colored pencil art has smeared or faded over the last 10 or 15 years.

  • @HIRO_takeshi3
    @HIRO_takeshi3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    quality content 🫰

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! 😃

  • @tinyshinyfeathers
    @tinyshinyfeathers หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm not a marker user, but it'll be good to know that they're so prone to fading if I ever get some. :)

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad the info was helpful to you in case you ever do use markers! 😃

  • @samexahr3326
    @samexahr3326 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My primary medium is pencil, I also do digital. Ive been using alcohol markers for about 4 years, being introduced with Jazzas Jazzy Art Box. Generally on Printer Paper. My oldest Alcohol marker artworks haven't faided to a notable degree authough I don't display it. Store it in the dark or covered with other pencil artworks & notes.

  • @veggiestan9500
    @veggiestan9500 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I had no idea this was a thing! Such useful information!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful! 😊

  • @LynMaloney
    @LynMaloney หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another wonderful video, Thaneeya. I had no idea that alcohol markers fade, so this whole video was very helpful. Your knowledge is amazing. Xx🙂👍👏

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for your comment, Lyn! Glad my video was helpful to you! 😃🎨

  • @LocalLooney
    @LocalLooney หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i exist underground and most of my marker art is in stacks or books or something in addition, so unless i used bad paper for it i havent noticed much, but that 2.5 yr difference with regular light is wild

  • @angela_somanythings5670
    @angela_somanythings5670 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am so glad I saw this Before I got some new art supplies. I was considering alcohol markers but I still think I'll give them a try! Btw You Are So Cute and Funny! I Love your style too!! Keep this up and you'll be huge in a few years!!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Aw thank you so much for your sweet comment! 🥰 I'm so happy my video was useful to you! I think alcohol markers are definitely worth a try ~ I have so much fun with mine! 😃🎨✨

  • @0therun1t21
    @0therun1t21 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think unwanted art supplies can donated somewhere, not really sure where because it probably depends on how safe they are to use and who would be using them.

  • @pipkin5287
    @pipkin5287 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I see a couple of people saying that alcohol markers are mainly used for illustrations that can be reproduced, but as a Graphic Artist, I was first introduced to them being used as an illustration medium for print layouts and product/advert concepts to show to clients.
    That doesn't mean that they don't have loads of other purposes of course! But I imagine they're mentioned in the other context because of products like manga covers, posters, and special page spreads? Just curious.

  • @rufusjune9163
    @rufusjune9163 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I had no idea! Thanks for sharing! 🙂

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad the info was useful to you! Thanks for commenting! 😃

  • @kathylovesmk
    @kathylovesmk 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Opera Pink is my favorite color in any medium, so I'm very familiar with the term "fugitive"!😭 Great information, thank you!!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know what you mean ~ I LOVE Opera Pink!!! 😭 At least we can enjoy it while it lasts! Thank you for your comment! 💖

  • @DazzlingAction
    @DazzlingAction หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you have an inked out line with it. The outlines will keep most of the time...(depends on the ink you've used.)
    If anything after 3 years or so you can reclaim your paper for more marker work.
    Markers more for fun if anything :)

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s a healthy perspective! Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 😃🎨

  • @sheilacym
    @sheilacym หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video, Thaneeya ….thank you 🤩💕

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much, Sheila! 😃

  • @PirateParadox
    @PirateParadox หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder about laminating...

  • @BilliesCraftRoom
    @BilliesCraftRoom 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you love it, scan it into digital format.

  • @AquaDreiger
    @AquaDreiger หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Never knew about this nor ever heard of this so pretty useful, i'm glad now to have this information going forward (have been using alcohol markers for like 2 years)
    also that whole scanning your art you have done with markers was a good idea i should probably do that my self even though i have until now only taken pictures with my phone 😅

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is hard to be completely perpendicular to the artwork when taking a photo to avoid distortion unless you hang on a wall and use a tripod.

  • @madi7178
    @madi7178 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am taking architecture classes and they require a significant portion of scanning completed work. Nothing wrong with digitally recording finished works and still keeping the original work.

  • @marcievega7972
    @marcievega7972 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I’m in it for the moment, so I really don’t care about fading. ☺️

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too! 😊 It is what it is, and the important thing is to enjoy it in the moment! 🎨💕

    • @BlessedForever888
      @BlessedForever888 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too!

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s a great attitude! 👍🏻🎨

  • @ofraar8959
    @ofraar8959 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You are so professional and your material helps me a lot!
    Waiting for more😃

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much! I'm so happy my videos are helpful to you! 😃🎨

  • @crystalfranklin2583
    @crystalfranklin2583 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've actually thought about this and wondered if there was anything you can do to prevent fading with alcohol markers. I guess it's just fun, fast and most people probably aren't concerned about lightfastness, but if you're a professional artist selling your art, alcohol markers probably aren't the tool to use.

  • @tf9241
    @tf9241 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so interesting. My sister in law got me an original print from a local artist at a convention and I have it hung up. Obviously it’s used markers but now I’m like dang, have the colours faded because of where I put it?

    • @wiktoriatluvi
      @wiktoriatluvi หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Prints can fade from light especially as well. It depends on the lighting intensity and also the kind of the print for how long they will last :’D

  • @alexandraardnaxela6367
    @alexandraardnaxela6367 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I didnt know they fade!! Ty for this cool information omg

  • @anrijupiter
    @anrijupiter หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m surprised that you only got 5.5k subs. This video was so informative. Thank you for the quality content!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks sp much for your comment! 💖 It's really great to hear that my video was useful to you! 😃

  • @teijaflink2226
    @teijaflink2226 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I haven't noticed this with my alcohol markers, like at all but I only use them on my colouring books that I likely wont save forever but still bit sad about this because I live alcohol markers, they are so easy and comfortable to paint with.

  • @debprado
    @debprado หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love your videos!!! So happy to see a new one 🎉! Great info as always

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much, Deb! That means a lot to me! 😃🎨💖

  • @IrisDragonz
    @IrisDragonz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey! This is the first time watching one of your videos, I looked down to see your sub count and was very confused about how you only have 5.2K subs! The way you make your videos is just so professional and they are so easy to follow :)
    So, I’m actually a 3D artist that uses alcohol markers, they’re called dragon puppets. I’m gonna try to keep them in dark place (when I’m not filming videos with them)
    Thank you so much for all this information! Very educational :)
    Oh, and I’m IMMEDIATELY subscribing🥰
    Have a nice day!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for your awesome comment!! It really means a lot to me! 🥰 Have a wonderful day! 😃🎨

    • @IrisDragonz
      @IrisDragonz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thaneeya Of course, you too!

  • @hermi1-kenobi455
    @hermi1-kenobi455 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The true solution is to yield and submit to the overwhelming excellence of straight acrylic paint ‼️‼️🙏🙏💯🗣🗣

  • @cynax7757
    @cynax7757 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I started using alcohol markers recently and the experience makes me feel humble.

  • @user-mv5iv1re2b
    @user-mv5iv1re2b 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One idea is to take photos and use apps like vectorize ai to keep them forever and be able to scale them to print.

  • @sunnafae.1886
    @sunnafae.1886 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is helpful, I actually never knew this!

  • @LeeDee5
    @LeeDee5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My supply of choice is usually lightfast colored pencils. But alcohol markers are fun too.

  • @waretaSL
    @waretaSL 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean, i've stored alcohol markers art in dark places and had it last very nicely. Everything gets bleached in light, but anything containing alcohol will bleach faster because it evaporates...