Backup archives don't care about speed or latency. A bunny doesn't have to be fast to multiply. It just has to live long enough to get inside another bunny.
@@Aereto I agree - except the article was about 'Data Storage' and quoted lots of 'Hard-drives', and did not specifically quote data archiving at any point. The whole area of instant access to stored data, vs archiving of data are two separate use cases and I think the article was not clear about what it meant. In fact I think it got them mixed up a little.
@@bobfish7699 Indeed that they misunderstood about data storage between I/O priority and integrity priority. Physical fabrication is a great deal slower to write than read in comparison to electromagnetic polarity read/write process found in hard drives and tape drives (tape drives are balanced in sequential read/write and material integrity). Even then, physically manufactured data storage must take care not to take too severe of a physical damage due to read interpretation tolerance.
All these crazy science and tech developments... Super AI, AR, Material Science, Energy Tech, Data Science, Molecular/Particle Science, Nanorobots, Megafast Internet, Space Explorations.. WTF is going to happen?? We all become immortals? Mutants? Cyborgs? We can produce real life army of Iron Men??
@@aryan201 A next world war is not impossible but unlikely. Imagine attacking a powerful country with nuclear weapons. What is going to happen next? They're screwed, but so are you. This would be stupidity at it's finest.
The only problem is retreiving data. Even medical records need to be updated, that cant be applied to permanent plastic parts. But still great test of concept.
If you're looking to make exact copies of something, why would you want to update information? Also, your first and second statements are non-sequiturs so I'm not sure what you're getting at...
@@sandeepn94 What would be the use of copies of your out-of-date medical records that cannot be updated? You not understanding the op's point is a cognition problem on your end. He didn't employ any non-sequitur either as it logically follows that the utility of this would be severely limited by it being unable to be updated. It's just not that useful.
I think about it like ROM. Or like firmware. There are applications where you don't need updates and the ability to have such a small piece of hardware is very advantadgeous
@@juxuanu How would it be advantageous since this cannot be actively read and you have to take parts off the object and process them? It's not like it's convenient. I could see this being useful for time capsule technology or for ensuring someone in the far future could replicate the item but everyday utility just doesn't seem to be there. If the rabbit could self-replicate, then you'd have something. This might be useful as a component of some future tech though.
Man.. with all these accelerated science and tech... How can we predict 1000 years?. Hell we can't even predict whats gonna happen in the next 5 years.
What if information is stored everywhere? The light, gravity, the planets and more. It is just scrambled and we don't know how to decode it. In this example a 3D printed rabbit has information that will replicate itself, but for the eyes of average person it's just a 3D printed object. What if information is scattered and present around us, waiting to be discovered we just don't know it yet.
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@Idylchatter Mandelbrotwurst would be a sausage made from almondbread. Sounds kinda disgusting tbh. A Mandelwurstbrot would be better :P (=literally AlmondSausageBread or "almond sausage sandwich", so it's a sandwich with almond and sausage or a sandwich with an almond sausage)
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A big hurdle of using DNA for data storage seems to be parsing the data. If I want to look up something on a computer it can just start at the first bits and go through all of them looking for what I want (i know this method isn't efficient, but just for argument's sake). But if you keep data in DNA, do you have to unzip all of the DNA to find something? Is this going to take a while? Will there be a log for shortcuts? Obviously, with new technology there will be hurdles, but this one seems particularly challenging. Looking forward to seeing where it goes!
Man, plugging an USB key on the first try is already something I'd be proud to have on my Tinder profile and now you tell me I have to print a whole damn bunny? My mom is up for a surprise the next time she ask me to totally-legaly-download her the latest episodes of her favorite show
One tech that I really hope will come from this some day (many years from now) is a normal sized USB drive that has DNA read/write capability. Picture a thumb drive that comes not in a 8 GB variety but a 8 TB variety.
Coding and Decoding DNA is a very time intensive process, ie. to be able to read DNA (it has to be significant enough in quantity for anything to even read).Subsequently compressing all that information back into the double helix structure also take a ton of processing. Until this could be done in a matter of seconds accurately, I don't see this method of reading data to be accurate and scalable enough to be commercialized.
I'm quite worried about the DNA. Not only there are nebulous issues such as "what if we accidentally sequence a dangerous virus", but practical ones (beyond the price) as well since DNA may be good for read-only storage, but may never materialize for stuff that needs to be written as well as read, such as hard drives.
Interesting... Obviously it would be hard to extract the data from this than from existing options, but the density of information and the durability (need only a small piece and you already have thousands of copies if it shatters). I think that it would be some real sci-fi bond stuff to see secret agents share messages via DNA encryption - a few crumbs of material and a DIY DNA sequencer and analysis just to trade messages without them ever touching a computer network... It would be very easy to dispose of the data itself too just by turning out your pockets, it would be harder to search someone's place when literally anything formed by casting it could have DNA data and that's before any encryption or junk data to complicate reading it like flooding radio waves with noise to disrupt communications. Yeah, it could be pretty damn awesome...
Storing data and having fast read/write are two different things. Much like current data centers use SSD/HDD for quick access storage and taps for longterm backups. This technology might be good for longterm storage but it will unlikely be good at quick access of data.
God knew how to do data storage right from the beginning. We can barely understand it never mind replicate it. Keep working fellas, you have a long way to go.
What's the avg seek time of a 1 Exabyte DNA drive? I know it won't be measured in ms... But still -- viable for long-term mass storage, just like magnetic tapes.
Here's a idea, encode information into a DNA string create a digital graphical model of that DNA string and than encode that model into digital 3D image and send that 3D image as a data stream,and than just encode that back at the receiver.
This how Skynet starts. Program how to make a bunny, or anything, into plastic. The robots can then read it. Then they will make more of themselves. And also with AI, they can learn how to make it better, and more advance.
The tech that allows data to be stored on DNA is awesome. Its kind of a shame that people spend so much time focusing on the fact that the researchers chose to store the same CAD file that they used in their 3D printer. The tech is _much_ more widely useful than that, but all the reporters seem to say is "look! A self-replicating bunny! (ps: its not really self-replicating.)"
Synthetic DNA is archive-only (meaning it can't be actively read like data on an HDD or SSD) at the moment... Should've made a point of that in the video I feel.
I guess the current function of DNA as storage would mainly be for long term storage of data, like a library or warehouse of information. Where information is expected to be called rarely but safely maintained
That wasn't very clear. Do they store the whole process in every glass bead? How do they write the instructions as DNA? how do you keep the sequence right? How do you get the DNA into a glass bead? How do you get ot out?
Theirs glass and Quartz which can challenge this technology 5D storage and another one which I can't recall but let see which of these new storage technologies dominates or it could be a combination for different uses.
What if we add a self replication function that requires an additional copy and passionately urges to randomly shuffle chunks of the data to produce new instances?
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It's not self-replicating until they include all the machines the do the reproduction: the printer, the DNA sequencer, etc. That's what living cells do. Not just what they are but all the machinery to reproduce themselves.
Imagine how much a single gigabyte of dna is going to cost 😂 I bet only the government is going to have access for dna data storage and I just bought a dang external hard drive 4tb for all my photos
So what if you can store that data ... what you need is the ability to read, write, and access that data. This is nothing until those obstacles are removed.
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It's cool to see a familiar face and good to know that she gets to report on such a top story.
This was news months ago, not now.
@@Inertia888 Sick burn lol. This story is months old.
I always had confidence that 3D-Printed Bunny would be the solution to this issue.
😂
Microsoft is working on a technology to use glass a storage medium. It is very stable, can last for thousands of years.
Gravity: Am I A joke to you.
I saw
Richard Butt yes. Yes it can. I check your check mate with a double check mate. OMG!
i think they're using quartz crystal, right? much more durable than glass too. i think they got like 100 TB on a quartz disk about an inch in diameter
@@BazilDay Gravity? Who cares about gravity?!
Density maybe. Speed and latency might be a problem..
It's would mostly be used for data archiving for far future uses.
Backup archives don't care about speed or latency.
A bunny doesn't have to be fast to multiply. It just has to live long enough to get inside another bunny.
@@Aereto I agree - except the article was about 'Data Storage' and quoted lots of 'Hard-drives', and did not specifically quote data archiving at any point. The whole area of instant access to stored data, vs archiving of data are two separate use cases and I think the article was not clear about what it meant. In fact I think it got them mixed up a little.
@@bobfish7699
Indeed that they misunderstood about data storage between I/O priority and integrity priority.
Physical fabrication is a great deal slower to write than read in comparison to electromagnetic polarity read/write process found in hard drives and tape drives (tape drives are balanced in sequential read/write and material integrity).
Even then, physically manufactured data storage must take care not to take too severe of a physical damage due to read interpretation tolerance.
Depends on the application
The first time I've seen something similar was 15 or 20 years ago but it was measured in DVDs
Except, they are more resilient than CDs DVDs.t
@@mackenzierynebagtong8549 you missed the point by trying to be too smart 😂😂😂
"DNA of Things could be used in industry, construction, and pharmaceutical"
Actual use:
Pfft... Gonna make 3D Anime Girls
😂😂😂
I got your back all the way
@@loveanimeforever9115 Bro
All these crazy science and tech developments... Super AI, AR, Material Science, Energy Tech, Data Science, Molecular/Particle Science, Nanorobots, Megafast Internet, Space Explorations.. WTF is going to happen?? We all become immortals? Mutants? Cyborgs? We can produce real life army of Iron Men??
Well lets hope something as stupid as a war doesn't destroy our civilization and we continue to innovate and discover.
Fundemort Grey Prime Defender of Truth and Justice honestly idc can i just die
@Mohd Khalid Elon Musk:Am I a joke to you?
@@aryan201 A next world war is not impossible but unlikely. Imagine attacking a powerful country with nuclear weapons. What is going to happen next? They're screwed, but so are you. This would be stupidity at it's finest.
@@Dionyzos Yeah IKR but people like Donald trump and Kim still exist as nation leaders
The only problem is retreiving data. Even medical records need to be updated, that cant be applied to permanent plastic parts. But still great test of concept.
If you're looking to make exact copies of something, why would you want to update information? Also, your first and second statements are non-sequiturs so I'm not sure what you're getting at...
hell even dna can get corrupted. that what causes a lot of cancers.
@@sandeepn94 What would be the use of copies of your out-of-date medical records that cannot be updated? You not understanding the op's point is a cognition problem on your end. He didn't employ any non-sequitur either as it logically follows that the utility of this would be severely limited by it being unable to be updated. It's just not that useful.
I think about it like ROM. Or like firmware. There are applications where you don't need updates and the ability to have such a small piece of hardware is very advantadgeous
@@juxuanu How would it be advantageous since this cannot be actively read and you have to take parts off the object and process them? It's not like it's convenient. I could see this being useful for time capsule technology or for ensuring someone in the far future could replicate the item but everyday utility just doesn't seem to be there. If the rabbit could self-replicate, then you'd have something. This might be useful as a component of some future tech though.
1000 years later:
Scientists revive prehistoric plastic bunnies, construct Jurassic Petting Zoo
if were in the information age then would it be in information petting zoo?
Man.. with all these accelerated science and tech... How can we predict 1000 years?. Hell we can't even predict whats gonna happen in the next 5 years.
Perfect cute hairstyle for the bunny episode.
What if information is stored everywhere? The light, gravity, the planets and more. It is just scrambled and we don't know how to decode it. In this example a 3D printed rabbit has information that will replicate itself, but for the eyes of average person it's just a 3D printed object. What if information is scattered and present around us, waiting to be discovered we just don't know it yet.
She's so fun to watch.
Can listen to her for days. Such a soothing voice. Don't know what she was wearing thow
I’ve been watching this channel for as long as I can remember and I just realised I wasn’t subscribed, it always found its way in my recommended so I didn’t think to check.
Wasn't this video already published some time ago? Is this a reupload, and if so for what reason?
Deja vu It was also uploaded on sci show
Making a point (views)
Mandellah effect
@@theworldofchachundar5628 Rightttt damn that's some deja vu HAHAHA thanks!
@Idylchatter
Mandelbrotwurst would be a sausage made from almondbread. Sounds kinda disgusting tbh.
A Mandelwurstbrot would be better :P (=literally AlmondSausageBread or "almond sausage sandwich", so it's a sandwich with almond and sausage or a sandwich with an almond sausage)
Her head is always tilting a little to the right and it's driving me crazy, it's like the DVD screen saver almost never hitting a corner
We've come a long away from the days of IBM punch cards and paper tape drives.
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Congrats on the success of this channel this is my favorite science channel for current events an basically a new learning tool i would love if you guys would create more content on the worlds new interstellar space technology i see alot of new updates frequently
A big hurdle of using DNA for data storage seems to be parsing the data. If I want to look up something on a computer it can just start at the first bits and go through all of them looking for what I want (i know this method isn't efficient, but just for argument's sake). But if you keep data in DNA, do you have to unzip all of the DNA to find something? Is this going to take a while? Will there be a log for shortcuts? Obviously, with new technology there will be hurdles, but this one seems particularly challenging. Looking forward to seeing where it goes!
God when last have I been this excited. Then we will not here anything about it for like 20 years😒
I watched this while running a 3D print behind me in my bedroom lol. I can't wait until this crazy new storage tech gets more developed.
I must backup all my memories to a 3d printer before I die.
Man, plugging an USB key on the first try is already something I'd be proud to have on my Tinder profile and now you tell me I have to print a whole damn bunny? My mom is up for a surprise the next time she ask me to totally-legaly-download her the latest episodes of her favorite show
This recalls a movie from my childhood called "The Last Mimzy".
I saw this theory on using DNA as information storage a few *MONTHS* ago. I didn't expect it would be applied this fast. Amazing. ♥️
Soooooo cute, and the bunny is also.
One tech that I really hope will come from this some day (many years from now) is a normal sized USB drive that has DNA read/write capability. Picture a thumb drive that comes not in a 8 GB variety but a 8 TB variety.
Coding and Decoding DNA is a very time intensive process, ie. to be able to read DNA (it has to be significant enough in quantity for anything to even read).Subsequently compressing all that information back into the double helix structure also take a ton of processing.
Until this could be done in a matter of seconds accurately, I don't see this method of reading data to be accurate and scalable enough to be commercialized.
Idea for Seeker: if you design a machine that could make an exact, smaller copy of itself, how far down that particular rabbit hole could we go?
This idea is so far out there that I can't even conceptualize it.
If data storage doesn't work, it'll revolutionize mass production of candy rabbits for Easter.
I love your passion about Science :)
Rad. Thanks Maren!
I'm quite worried about the DNA. Not only there are nebulous issues such as "what if we accidentally sequence a dangerous virus", but practical ones (beyond the price) as well since DNA may be good for read-only storage, but may never materialize for stuff that needs to be written as well as read, such as hard drives.
Crazy this was just uploade, also cool concept of storage!
Woow, I *love* your new-and-improved look and style! ;-)
Could you picture a gram of DNA?
Me: No.
best gift ever
The rabbit actually looks like it's made out of robosperm. Lol
Interesting... Obviously it would be hard to extract the data from this than from existing options, but the density of information and the durability (need only a small piece and you already have thousands of copies if it shatters).
I think that it would be some real sci-fi bond stuff to see secret agents share messages via DNA encryption - a few crumbs of material and a DIY DNA sequencer and analysis just to trade messages without them ever touching a computer network... It would be very easy to dispose of the data itself too just by turning out your pockets, it would be harder to search someone's place when literally anything formed by casting it could have DNA data and that's before any encryption or junk data to complicate reading it like flooding radio waves with noise to disrupt communications.
Yeah, it could be pretty damn awesome...
Just watched “The Last Mimzy” last night.
Bring out The Holy Hand Grenade!
Storing data and having fast read/write are two different things. Much like current data centers use SSD/HDD for quick access storage and taps for longterm backups. This technology might be good for longterm storage but it will unlikely be good at quick access of data.
Sweet, I lost my bunny making directions so this will def be useful
Beautiful
God knew how to do data storage right from the beginning. We can barely understand it never mind replicate it. Keep working fellas, you have a long way to go.
What's the avg seek time of a 1 Exabyte DNA drive? I know it won't be measured in ms...
But still -- viable for long-term mass storage, just like magnetic tapes.
It would be incredibly slow retrieve stored data in comparison with other methods currently used.
Ha, I get why they picked a rabbit. "...reproduce like rabbits."
Here's a idea, encode information into a DNA string create a digital graphical model of that DNA string and than encode that model into digital 3D image and send that 3D image as a data stream,and than just encode that back at the receiver.
After watching this...... it seems that 2020 is gonna be lot more sci-fi than I thought it would be....
This how Skynet starts.
Program how to make a bunny, or anything, into plastic. The robots can then read it. Then they will make more of themselves.
And also with AI, they can learn how to make it better, and more advance.
Woo technology is moving fast. What will they think next
That's fascinating
So this is the step we take before quantum computers?
How is the DNA packed into the glass beads? With out knowing more, that sounds like it could be a destructive process...
It reminds me of jurassic Park when they were extracting the DNA sequence from prehistoric mosquitoes trapped in fossilised Amber 😂
And I doubt alien civilizations would even catch on when it comes finding out the data.
The tech that allows data to be stored on DNA is awesome. Its kind of a shame that people spend so much time focusing on the fact that the researchers chose to store the same CAD file that they used in their 3D printer. The tech is _much_ more widely useful than that, but all the reporters seem to say is "look! A self-replicating bunny! (ps: its not really self-replicating.)"
Synthetic DNA is archive-only (meaning it can't be actively read like data on an HDD or SSD) at the moment... Should've made a point of that in the video I feel.
Good stuff.
How can I pre-order a 100 Terrabyte bunny?
If we learn to put our most sensitive data into chocolate form we will reach a new level of opulent cuisine.
So the big question, how fast can data be written to and read from DNA?
I think that's the main bottleneck right now
I guess the current function of DNA as storage would mainly be for long term storage of data, like a library or warehouse of information. Where information is expected to be called rarely but safely maintained
How many hooters can be on the 3-D printer 🖨😎🥳😉👊👋👏👌🍸🥇🖖👍🙈
I want to get a copy of her
How very cool.
That wasn't very clear. Do they store the whole process in every glass bead? How do they write the instructions as DNA? how do you keep the sequence right? How do you get the DNA into a glass bead? How do you get ot out?
Theirs glass and Quartz which can challenge this technology 5D storage and another one which I can't recall but let see which of these new storage technologies dominates or it could be a combination for different uses.
the future of data storage will be when they figure out how to bounce light inside a crystal without it escaping.
Is this a hint that cloning is also possible and in use by those who can afford it?
So I can make a bunshin without learning the Kagebunshin technique.
DNA based computers we now live in a godzilla movie
DNA OF THINGS
WOW
What if we add a self replication function that requires an additional copy and passionately urges to randomly shuffle chunks of the data to produce new instances?
One step closer to cellular robotics.
I still believe that 3D printing will be good making organs
What would a mutation in the dna look like in the final product?
iT could be fantstic if Seeker can explain their science in a mixed part like putting Maren could be perfect for it, also 3D could help entring 3D Web see this film roger rabit this can finance space exploration and solving issues Maren could be interesting inside it
Sound of data storage...
Self-replicating bio-machines. Nope, not worried at al...
It's not self-replicating until they include all the machines the do the reproduction: the printer, the DNA sequencer, etc. That's what living cells do. Not just what they are but all the machinery to reproduce themselves.
What the hell is with this rabbit model being everywhere in physics simulations and 3D printing tests?
Your my favorite Host,you look really beautiful ♥️♥️♥️
Whats the $ to memory size, read/write speed, etc...
I was expecting something like binary code printed on the surface, super tiny but able to be picked up on a 3d scanner.
i want a chocolate one... thanks buddy
Not kidding just this morning while taking a shit I was thinking about bio computers..😂
Once again science fiction become science facts. A scientist was watching Blade Runner and here we are.
If you're someone who smuggles data for a living this could be very useful, and I do support your life choices
The magnetic head will be replaced by Crisper :)
do these with chocolate bunnies and I'm in!!
I just want one cuz it's cute
🤯 What the heck?! This is really, really interesting stuff. What. The. Heck!... Thanks for sharing this with us, Seeker! 😎👌
Imagine how much a single gigabyte of dna is going to cost 😂 I bet only the government is going to have access for dna data storage and I just bought a dang external hard drive 4tb for all my photos
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
We have seen the largest, we have now seen the smallest!
0:19 finally she reviewed her ..revealed her name !! u can thank me later
Wrap IT in a rabbit 🐰
*..Annunaki..* getting there..
..i wrote about this 10101 in DNA, or Qoura...glad they evolved the idea. 🌞
why do i feel like i've seen this episode before?
So what if you can store that data ... what you need is the ability to read, write, and access that data. This is nothing until those obstacles are removed.
Damn. We're going faaaaar