the fade through comparison at 3:20 is exactly what i've bene trying to figure out, i've sat on Z650 and liked the seating, glad to know the Ninja is not much difference. I Greatly appreciate the fade by comparison
Peter, I don't encounter many people who are creative and detailed quite like you are and able to convey that perspective of understanding to others effectively and efficiently. What you did with the comparison of riding position is so illustrative and basically put me right on what In have been trying to figure out about these two bikes. However, I did notice that your feet were not quite in the same position on the peg and it gave the illusion of the pegs not being in the same location until I reviewed it again. Everything else about it was a perfect representation of what one might expect in regards to riding position comparison. It would be even more helpful to know how tall you are and your reach you don't mind sharing that. The info about the Versys 650 and Vulcan sharing some DNA I have never heard mentioned before and basically helped me scratch the Versys 650 off of my 'maybe someday' list. I'm quite blown away that you don't have significantly more subscribers. If you keep this up they will come. Thank you for helping us.
Thanks so much for your kind words. In regards to my feet being in that wrong position, I know... I've done this before with other bikes but I messed it up with this video. I had a busy day that day and didn't get to editing until I was home, and I wasn't able to re-film that. So I apologize for that. As far as my height I'm right around 6 feet tall and I THINK I have a 32 inch inseem but to be blunt, I'm not fully sure. As far as getting more subscribers, I used to run a MUCH larger channel with millions of viewers and much much more subscribers. These things take time to build, so hopefully things will continue to grow and hopefully I can continue to serve a purpose for viewers. I'll be patient. Thanks again for your support!
@@PeterLoweOne No apology needed. It's hard to think about every little detail all of the time, sometimes it is a lot like juggling, way too many balls in the air, lol. I've posted my share of footage that I wish I had done differently or realized I missed a detail that would could have been better were it different. I subbed to all and look forward to everything else that you post.
Nice! I saw the Z650 in person when the Motorcycle Show came here in Montreal. This weekend I'll try to sit on the 650 and hope I'm tall enough for it being only 5'4/5'5". Thanks for covering this!
I met someone this past weekend who is about your height or even shorter, and she's been riding a Ninja 650 for a few years now. So there are others around your height who are riding these bikes. Thanks for watching!
@Eric Marquez it was in stock already! I just had to wait for my insurance to get me a proper card so I could get registration and there was a hold up. Sorry you have to wait. Be patient you will be very happy with your new machine!
@naception dang... I'm thinking of going to California to get it. I'm sure they have em on the floor. I live in Vegas and I absolutely hate California but I'll go there to get my bike and then leave there right away. Thank you for your information. Ride safe and I'm happy for you.
I have a Ninja 650 (2022), and it is perfect in every way. It is nimble, quick, looks and sounds great. Very comfortable to ride, and the TFT display is viewable in all lighting conditions.
Another great review Peter. The seating comparison is great, the next best thing to actually sitting on them. Like the ninja colour scheme, unfortunately I don't think we will get that in Australia.
someone can say if is crazy if i get the ninja model for a first bike? I mean is not more difficult to learn ? or the both is almost the same and regardless of which one I take, it doesn't make much difference ?
I know this video is old but I thought about something that can help the side to side comparison. Just get a masking tap, place in the floor and that would be where your front wheels will be and you can do the same for your camera as well so that the angle doesn’t change
You seem like the right person to ask! It's 2024 now, by chance do you know if the 2024 models share the same frame with the Ninja 650 and the z60?????
I wouldn't choose either one over the other based on just your height. I'm 6 feet, so you can see that I fit on these bikes fine, and I bought a Z900RS. I would choose which one you like based on the other features, more than just your height. I think you'd be fine on both.
I want to get a bike like this when I turn old enough I’m familiar of dirt bikes and didn’t want to have a bike that’s hunched over too bad but now I know you sit up relatively straight on the ninja
Oooh... that's tough. Mid-line sporty. So... Subaru WRX? They're too similar to be different cars for me. They're not Porsche's, but they do have sporting pedigree, so they're not purely commuter vehicles. They're attainable, but still a step up from entry level. What do you think?
@PeterLoweOne wow interesting, thank you for the reply. What do I think? I don't know as I haven't ridden a motorcycle before but am looking into the kawasaki 650s haha. Thanks for the great content
I would argue that any crosswind is going to effect the rider on each bike far more than the body work of the motorcycle. These bikes would be VERY similar in a crosswind.
Great video, thank you. Prices in Argentina: Z650 $14990 usd - Ninja 650 $21450 - Z900 $21490 (yes, only $40usd more than Ninja 650), is it the same in your countries?
On casual days, they can be on many tracks. But I guess my point is, if you're in a tuck position on the Ninja, your mirrors are still in front of you.
What I do isn't going to be for everyone, that's the beauty of TH-cam, you're a click away from something that may suit what you're looking for. Having said that, I'm always looking to improve within my style, so I'm glad you found the seating comparison useful. I've done that a number of times now, and I think it's helpful. Thanks for giving my channel a chance.
Oh, I didn't NEED more than this, but I did buy a Z900RS SE. To be fair, I didn't need it. But to be really fair, most of us don't need these either... Z650's are more than anyone NEEDs! But they're pretty great! Thanks for watching!!
the fade through comparison at 3:20 is exactly what i've bene trying to figure out, i've sat on Z650 and liked the seating, glad to know the Ninja is not much difference. I Greatly appreciate the fade by comparison
Peter, I don't encounter many people who are creative and detailed quite like you are and able to convey that perspective of understanding to others effectively and efficiently. What you did with the comparison of riding position is so illustrative and basically put me right on what In have been trying to figure out about these two bikes. However, I did notice that your feet were not quite in the same position on the peg and it gave the illusion of the pegs not being in the same location until I reviewed it again. Everything else about it was a perfect representation of what one might expect in regards to riding position comparison. It would be even more helpful to know how tall you are and your reach you don't mind sharing that. The info about the Versys 650 and Vulcan sharing some DNA I have never heard mentioned before and basically helped me scratch the Versys 650 off of my 'maybe someday' list. I'm quite blown away that you don't have significantly more subscribers. If you keep this up they will come. Thank you for helping us.
Thanks so much for your kind words. In regards to my feet being in that wrong position, I know... I've done this before with other bikes but I messed it up with this video. I had a busy day that day and didn't get to editing until I was home, and I wasn't able to re-film that. So I apologize for that. As far as my height I'm right around 6 feet tall and I THINK I have a 32 inch inseem but to be blunt, I'm not fully sure. As far as getting more subscribers, I used to run a MUCH larger channel with millions of viewers and much much more subscribers. These things take time to build, so hopefully things will continue to grow and hopefully I can continue to serve a purpose for viewers. I'll be patient. Thanks again for your support!
@@PeterLoweOne No apology needed. It's hard to think about every little detail all of the time, sometimes it is a lot like juggling, way too many balls in the air, lol. I've posted my share of footage that I wish I had done differently or realized I missed a detail that would could have been better were it different. I subbed to all and look forward to everything else that you post.
Nice! I saw the Z650 in person when the Motorcycle Show came here in Montreal. This weekend I'll try to sit on the 650 and hope I'm tall enough for it being only 5'4/5'5".
Thanks for covering this!
I met someone this past weekend who is about your height or even shorter, and she's been riding a Ninja 650 for a few years now. So there are others around your height who are riding these bikes. Thanks for watching!
@@PeterLoweOne Mhm. And I also heard the seat on this is narrower compared to the Ninja 400, so I might be better off. Thanks, boss!
@@elronaldopabloIt’s true. I sat on a Z650 and I was comfortably flat footed because the seat is narrower than my current sports bike.
Just rode my new ninja 650 home from the dealer. THIS BIKE IS AMAZING
Nice! You're going to have a great summer! I'm still waiting for the snow to melt here!
Congrats on your new bike, mate 👍
How long did it take them to deliver? My dealership is at 28 days
@Eric Marquez it was in stock already! I just had to wait for my insurance to get me a proper card so I could get registration and there was a hold up. Sorry you have to wait. Be patient you will be very happy with your new machine!
@naception dang... I'm thinking of going to California to get it. I'm sure they have em on the floor. I live in Vegas and I absolutely hate California but I'll go there to get my bike and then leave there right away. Thank you for your information. Ride safe and I'm happy for you.
Daaaammmnnn...the take comparing sitting positions Is pure gold! THANK YOU!
I have a Ninja 650 (2022), and it is perfect in every way. It is nimble, quick, looks and sounds great. Very comfortable to ride, and the TFT display is viewable in all lighting conditions.
Thanks for the very comprehensive and detailed review . Very much appreciated keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching!
This channel is go-to for Kawasaki comparisons
Another great review Peter. The seating comparison is great, the next best thing to actually sitting on them. Like the ninja colour scheme, unfortunately I don't think we will get that in Australia.
Love that Z model, i just bought that one grey/red color last week here in Spain! Also, congrats for your amazing channel
Thanks so much for watching! The Z is a great looking bike. I find that it is harder to capture in pictures than the Ninja.
great breakdown, this video makes me more open to getting the 650, the seating position doesn't look that different. thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching!
wow you completely compare seating position and I found them completely identical. I'm now supporting your channel
Thanks for watching!!
Loooove the white and grey of the ninja 650. Kinda wish they had a green option aside from the orange.
someone can say if is crazy if i get the ninja model for a first bike? I mean is not more difficult to learn ? or the both is almost the same and regardless of which one I take, it doesn't make much difference ?
ninja is commonly used as a first bike so dont worry
I know this video is old but I thought about something that can help the side to side comparison. Just get a masking tap, place in the floor and that would be where your front wheels will be and you can do the same for your camera as well so that the angle doesn’t change
Perfect review. Thanks!!!!
You seem like the right person to ask! It's 2024 now, by chance do you know if the 2024 models share the same frame with the Ninja 650 and the z60?????
I'll have a review of the 2024 Z650's soon. Yes. Much of what makes those bikes is identical.
Is the Z650 or Z900 better for a tall rider, 6' 1"?
I wouldn't choose either one over the other based on just your height. I'm 6 feet, so you can see that I fit on these bikes fine, and I bought a Z900RS. I would choose which one you like based on the other features, more than just your height. I think you'd be fine on both.
@@PeterLoweOne thanks! Love your videos. Very informative
I am 6`1 and I have 2023 Z650 + I changed to a higher seat and the bike is just perfect! :) very comfortable
What's the price difference between the two “BUT” in the 2024 models!
Great review! THANK YOU!
Thanks for watching!
Great review, very helpful - How tall are you Peter? Trying to judge rider height
I'm about 6 feet tall.
I want to get a bike like this when I turn old enough I’m familiar of dirt bikes and didn’t want to have a bike that’s hunched over too bad but now I know you sit up relatively straight on the ninja
Great VDO as always, Peter 👍
Thanks for the review. , very informative and comprehensive 👍🏿.
Thanks for watching!
Can you please review Honda rebel 1100
Great reviews, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Good vid Peter 👍
Thanks for watching!
You are so helpful! Thank you!
Thanks so much for watching! Feel free to subscribe!
If you could describe each of these two bikes as a car, what car model would they be?
Oooh... that's tough. Mid-line sporty. So... Subaru WRX? They're too similar to be different cars for me. They're not Porsche's, but they do have sporting pedigree, so they're not purely commuter vehicles. They're attainable, but still a step up from entry level. What do you think?
@PeterLoweOne wow interesting, thank you for the reply. What do I think? I don't know as I haven't ridden a motorcycle before but am looking into the kawasaki 650s haha. Thanks for the great content
Just picked up the ninja.
Awesome! You're going to love it!!
In case of a strong side wind, the Z model can keep on stable due to much less plastics
I would argue that any crosswind is going to effect the rider on each bike far more than the body work of the motorcycle. These bikes would be VERY similar in a crosswind.
I like the 451cc engine in my Z500 it can Cruise 80 all day you're not going to get good ⛽ mileage tho but my goddess is so much fun in the city lol
Great video, thank you.
Prices in Argentina: Z650 $14990 usd - Ninja 650 $21450 - Z900 $21490 (yes, only $40usd more than Ninja 650), is it the same in your countries?
Canadian prices can be found at www.kawasaki.ca (but of course those are listed in Canadian dollars)
In India Z650 costs - 9000$
Z900 - 12250$
At a race track mirrors are not used
On casual days, they can be on many tracks. But I guess my point is, if you're in a tuck position on the Ninja, your mirrors are still in front of you.
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Bro, I do find these reviews a tad basic and painful, so skip though fast. However the seating position comparison was gold. Thanks very much.
What I do isn't going to be for everyone, that's the beauty of TH-cam, you're a click away from something that may suit what you're looking for. Having said that, I'm always looking to improve within my style, so I'm glad you found the seating comparison useful. I've done that a number of times now, and I think it's helpful. Thanks for giving my channel a chance.
Sorry you didn't like the review. Thanks for a very comprehensive review of both bikes. I like how much thought you put into your videos.
You didn't have to watch it .
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You are! Welcome!
Noone needs more then that best choice for crouse around have fun
Oh, I didn't NEED more than this, but I did buy a Z900RS SE. To be fair, I didn't need it. But to be really fair, most of us don't need these either... Z650's are more than anyone NEEDs! But they're pretty great! Thanks for watching!!