How war is changing Russia’s population | DW Business Special

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  • President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine is causing major changes back home. Hundreds of thousands of Russian men are being mobilized to fight and tens of thousands have already been killed or injured. Meanwhile, many Russians have left their country and millions of Ukrainians are thought to have arrived.
    What impact will these changes have on the Russian population? And could the public response lead to Putin’s downfall? We discuss these questions and more with UCLA’s Oleg Itskhoki in this DW Business Special.
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  • @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669
    @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Many Russian who have left might never come back as many have exited Russia with their wives and family, many are Doctors and IT professionals and Skilled people like Engineers, people who are hard to replace.

    • @Chaldon-hl6yk
      @Chaldon-hl6yk ปีที่แล้ว +13

      barbers and bloggers - 90%

    • @Chaldon-hl6yk
      @Chaldon-hl6yk ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Dr Rock now it's less

    • @dark_master_Makei
      @dark_master_Makei ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Most of them have already returned.They didn't tell you that, did they?

    • @buc991
      @buc991 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@Chaldon-hl6yk lol what a nonsense, i work in IT and whole top companies are relocating away, barbers yeah..

    • @nsevv
      @nsevv ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Chaldon-hl6yk IT companies are relocating out of russia and taking their employees with them.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    What neither of you talks about is how Putin is VERY careful about who gets mobilized. It is not the elite in Moscow and Saint Petersburg, it is in fact the ethnic minorities who are called up disproportionately. From Tuvash Republic, Tatars, Dagastanis and many many others in Asian Russia. They are very careful to only lightly touch European Russians. The mobilization is very calculated. This must be talked about and the effect it has on the thousands of small villages where most of the young men who live there are taken at once only to return shortly in body bags. This is what is barely talked about and also plays a big part of why the general population is not more overtly against the war.

    • @AntonioCarlosGomes310151
      @AntonioCarlosGomes310151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      O que você falou é exatamente o que acontece. O genocida putin se livra das minorias étnicas e dos condenados nos presídios enquanto fecha os olhos para a fuga dos russos com melhor qualidade de vida e formação técnica contando com seu retorno após a guerra.

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They did talk about that, so I don't think you were listening to the entire video.

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@Fillipok Your attempt to engage critically is clouded by the fact that your media sources in Russia are extremely unreliable. You cannot trust your own media, or your own government, if they shut down every independent news agency. You also cannot rely upon your own limited, personal perspective to give you an accurate picture of large scale statistics.

    • @fernandopenarandacorrea7221
      @fernandopenarandacorrea7221 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uii

    • @fernandopenarandacorrea7221
      @fernandopenarandacorrea7221 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fillipok yy

  • @andrewwatson1690
    @andrewwatson1690 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I'm glad to see my favorite English teacher is working for DW

  • @cynthiagarnham1157
    @cynthiagarnham1157 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Yes, is important to remember that , in Russia there is the normal draft process, for people finishing their education. If they haven't already fled, they will called up to serve in the military. Several hundred thousands every year. Interestingly Mr Putin himself avoided the draft ( where the treatment of the draftees is often brutal!) after finishing his studies, by joining the KGB!!!!

    • @wom_Bat
      @wom_Bat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought 240,000 a year?

    • @cynthiagarnham1157
      @cynthiagarnham1157 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@wom_Bat sounds about right! Perhaps, they should all apply for whatever the KGB is called now, like Putin did?! Lol

    • @user-yj5jg8xs2p
      @user-yj5jg8xs2p ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have a friend who serves and what

    • @hawklord100
      @hawklord100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does not Putin boast of being a thief and racketeer in protection money enforcement before he joined the KGB

    • @rickywright1264
      @rickywright1264 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@user-yj5jg8xs2p and what?

  • @Jyshrii
    @Jyshrii ปีที่แล้ว +83

    My heart goes out to the poor children who find themselves far from home in strange, often very unfriendly places, and for their poor parents who despair of ever finding them and bringing them back to the security and positivity of their family. Slava Ukraini!

    • @5DNRG
      @5DNRG ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The saddest part of this story.

    • @Jyshrii
      @Jyshrii ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@5DNRG For sure. Slava Ukrani!

    • @John_13_35
      @John_13_35 ปีที่แล้ว

      I detest this despicable war crime pukin and his criminal troops have committed. Unforgivable

    • @Jyshrii
      @Jyshrii ปีที่แล้ว

      @@John_13_35 Yes, and this latest attack on Dnipro killing 29 civilians, including children, is unbearably hideous. Ukraine needs offensive weapons including heavy tanks to push those monster back where they came from.

  • @learningforthelonghaul
    @learningforthelonghaul ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Great interview with a great economist, unfortunately on a very sad and tragic topic.

    • @nayemsun5081
      @nayemsun5081 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love putin,Love Russia,Love Xi.

    • @MonteRosa849
      @MonteRosa849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nayemsun5081 I’ll send you a one way ticket to either of the places!

  • @nonsibi1087
    @nonsibi1087 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    “The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.” ― Albert Einstein

  • @cawag98
    @cawag98 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Great interview and analysis - thank you for posting it!

  • @fgadenz
    @fgadenz ปีที่แล้ว +301

    My deepest respect and admiration again to DW and the high level and depth of your analisys! I’ve been following a huge volume of analysis and reports about the war but this one is particularly sharp and interesting: Oleg (i hope I spelled it right) insight about the social contract between government and the population is powerfully simple, because it explains a lot of what we are struggling to understand about internal Russian dynamics.
    Thank you! News at its best!

    • @felipe-vibor
      @felipe-vibor ปีที่แล้ว

      Pray you get a brain

    • @fgadenz
      @fgadenz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@felipe-vibor ok

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer ปีที่แล้ว +8

      >
      Stephen Kotkin, academic biographer of Joseph Stalin, doesn't think social contract theory is worth much, if anything, because when those in power fail to carry out the contract, nothing ever happens to them. They never lose power because they fail to carry out this contract.
      Indeed, in this video Putin promises economic growth, which then does in fact occur at a very good 5% rate for several years. But after that, you have economic stagnation --- does that cause Putin to resign because he has broken this contract. Of course not!

    • @cindypomerleau950
      @cindypomerleau950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Putin has proven to be a great deceiver. Just how does one negotiate with a lying terrorist?

    • @landagharkiller3909
      @landagharkiller3909 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What world do you live in? or I should say what rock have you lived under?

  • @roblovestar9159
    @roblovestar9159 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Gee, I thought people were leaving because the upper story windows in Russia are so dangerous. ;)

  • @80-80.
    @80-80. ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Healthy wealthy and smart people are getting rare in there.

    • @Alitacyan
      @Alitacyan ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Always has been 🥴

    • @MHeymann
      @MHeymann ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A rhyme a dime?

    • @orangeairsoft7292
      @orangeairsoft7292 ปีที่แล้ว

      they are an inferior race.

  • @tashcheung4086
    @tashcheung4086 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    'Rob Words', nearly fell off my chair to find you on DW. Someone recognised your professionalism. Hurrah! You definitely deserve it. Good luck mate!!

    • @KennethMills
      @KennethMills ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was also surprised 😮 love to hear him talk!

    • @allamaadi
      @allamaadi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed the same thing. I also wish him all the best! A credit to DW for sure

    • @kanetao
      @kanetao ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same!

    • @tabby73
      @tabby73 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too! I was so confused at first and had to double check which channel I!m watching lol

  • @shimokitazawa1217
    @shimokitazawa1217 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    As a Russian citizen who hasn't lived in Russia for the last 13 years, I sincerely hope I will never have to return to that country ever again in my life.
    But, having your life depend on the ability to get a visa is no fun either. You're one clerk's decision away from being sent back and force-drafted in the military.

    • @awpetersen5909
      @awpetersen5909 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That is frightening. Can you apply for another citizenship?

    • @shimokitazawa1217
      @shimokitazawa1217 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@awpetersen5909 that's difficult given the countries I've lived in and types of visas I used, but I'll be more strategic in the future.

    • @awpetersen5909
      @awpetersen5909 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@shimokitazawa1217 I hope, that this war ends soon. It is so devestating for the whole world. And for you personally, that you are protected by good forces, that you are safe. 🌈🌍

    • @nbkhafula8381
      @nbkhafula8381 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are one good Russian, I presume. Peace ☮️ be upon you. If you are a good citizen, where you are residing, please naturalise. Slava Ukrajna

    • @hanspetermeier3653
      @hanspetermeier3653 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's difficult to say it from a safe place, but I whised the Russian men who have left the country, woud have 10% of the brave the Irianian women have.

  • @abasudoh7459
    @abasudoh7459 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I met a guy from Bahrain when I was in Hungary, he had lived in Izium before the war and his girlfriend didn't want to leave and ended up stuck when the city was surrounded. In the end she could only leave by crossing into Russia and last I heard she was trying to get to Finland.

  • @kit-telum
    @kit-telum ปีที่แล้ว +40

    16:25 Historically, Russia does not seem inclined towards "benign scenarios".

    • @freddy4603
      @freddy4603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idk, the USSR breakup was unbelieveably peaceful

    • @matrixdecoded4226
      @matrixdecoded4226 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be more accurate to say that, once roused, Russia does not retreat. Germany invaded Russia in WWII. Russia's response was to keep fighting until they entered Berlin.

    • @kit-telum
      @kit-telum ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matrixdecoded4226 They survived that one with help from the allies and winter ------------ and they behaved as despicably in German cities as they are doing in the occupied cities of their "cousins".

    • @kit-telum
      @kit-telum ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@freddy4603 Because Gorbachev chose not to use force. Let's see how tolerant Pooti (if he's still in power) will be of the break up of the increasingly discontent Federation.

    • @matrixdecoded4226
      @matrixdecoded4226 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kit-telum Please get off your high horse, it is embarrassing.

  • @Crashed131963
    @Crashed131963 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I think a highly motivated person in his own county will fight harder than a draftee.

    • @schust3r212
      @schust3r212 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      As an American army veteran I knew everyday that my family was gonna go to bed with a stomach full of food and a roof over their head. They took me out of homelessness and put my family up in a house I couldn't believe. The health care we all received blew my mind. I was highly motivated to defend that with my life. Now they have my back now that I'm disabled. This is how you inspire loyalty. I try to imagine my path and how it would have played out if I lived elsewhere or how I'd fare in a draft.

    • @LeadLeftLeon
      @LeadLeftLeon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’ll be a motivated draftee under fire when it’s you or the enemy

    • @sarahbrown5073
      @sarahbrown5073 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What do you think Ukraine has? Their soldiers are draftees even more so than the Russians....and the Russian DO soldiers see these territories as their own land.

    • @michaeldy3157
      @michaeldy3157 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeadLeftLeon I was in a army and they would have regretted treating me like russia treats their soldiers. But many russians are sheep somewhat. I watched a video of some dying of hypothermia while grenades killed them , they were too cold to try to escape. No cold weather gear.

    • @dark_master_Makei
      @dark_master_Makei ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sarahbrown5073 You are sick. Russians and Ukrainians from Russia are fighting against Ukrainians and Russians from Ukraine.🤬

  • @porkch0mp538
    @porkch0mp538 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    My favorite journalist covering the war on DW. Love when you have the Yale professor on

    • @ellenfaulkner7616
      @ellenfaulkner7616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can we just focus on Ukraine and stop complimenting the host

    • @budgetking2591
      @budgetking2591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ellenfaulkner7616 i agree its so cringe

    • @mdkooter
      @mdkooter ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I only know him from his youtube channel on English language oddities and etymology things! I'm surprised but also, makes sense :)

    • @MonteRosa849
      @MonteRosa849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great interview with a fabulous journalist.👏🇺🇦

    • @j7j7j7j7x
      @j7j7j7j7x ปีที่แล้ว

      The Yale business professor who spoke on sanctions was all lies. Wildly inaccurate when you look at what was predicted and what has actually happened.

  • @scareybailey
    @scareybailey ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Great journalism and interview. A breath of fresh air. Thanks!

    • @africaisking7817
      @africaisking7817 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Russia is making BILLIONS on oil exports what are you people talking about 😂 ??? It's like when you said AFRICA would starve . Stop lying !

    • @NewBeginnings413
      @NewBeginnings413 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@africaisking7817 Russia lost 80% of its business when it came to oil. That's a fact.

    • @africaisking7817
      @africaisking7817 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NewBeginnings413 Russia is doing great Russia has China , Saudi Arabia , Iran , Brazil , India the whole of freaking Africa supporting Russia doing business! Russia will be fine.
      The Colonizer NATO countries will freeze until the end this winter ⚰️

    • @matrixdecoded4226
      @matrixdecoded4226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NewBeginnings413 Thanks for the laughs. Seriously I laughed out loud when I read your comment.
      "That's a fact!" Classic.

    • @enzoh7763
      @enzoh7763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NewBeginnings413
      Funny .
      Check your wallet .

  • @davidarmitage289
    @davidarmitage289 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I like how Bruce Dickinson addressed this in the song by Iron Maiden….” Afraid to shoot strangers” He went on to say that Wars are started by politicians but have to be fought by innocent men who don’t want to shoot anyone.

    • @ackbooh9032
      @ackbooh9032 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah sure, but the politician's war is only one possibility and one aspect. Popular patriotism, fighting against oppression, political consent from the population, etc. It's true that poorer classes are hit the hardest and are the ones who can't avoid being drafted (lack of means, lack of education...).

    • @honorladone8682
      @honorladone8682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't he adorable he knows iron maiden.

    • @Chris_at_Home
      @Chris_at_Home ปีที่แล้ว

      If the common citizens of the world quit having kids for 15 years there would be no one to create a military. A plus would be a new education system as there will be a few years with no students.

    • @mro7940
      @mro7940 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wars are fought by the young and made by the old.

    • @robo3142
      @robo3142 ปีที่แล้ว

      put Nice make up and eyeshadow

  • @SingWithUkraine
    @SingWithUkraine ปีที่แล้ว +82

    💙💛 Glory to Ukraine!

    • @user-yj5jg8xs2p
      @user-yj5jg8xs2p ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No

    • @mariahewitt9787
      @mariahewitt9787 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      AMEN 🙏 GLORY to UKRAINE!!!

    • @felipe-vibor
      @felipe-vibor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oyeee... Moscow here we come to conquer

    • @mariahewitt9787
      @mariahewitt9787 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@felipe-vibor
      Stay off the Vodka!

    • @LeoRousseau
      @LeoRousseau ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ♥️🇺🇦🇺🇸♥️

  • @erfquake1
    @erfquake1 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That was equal parts devastating and enlightening. Please invite this guest back in the future to share his perspective.

    • @nayemsun5081
      @nayemsun5081 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love putin,Love Russia,Love Xi.

    • @stricknice5260
      @stricknice5260 ปีที่แล้ว

      @nayemsun5081 Got all those politicians in your mouth at one time?🤣

    • @erfquake1
      @erfquake1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nayemsun5081 When did you sell your soul to the totalitarian cause?

    • @elizabethr4107
      @elizabethr4107 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯

  • @stevenhenry5267
    @stevenhenry5267 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They can mobilize a million,but there's no way they'll kit them out properly.

    • @Marvin-dg8vj
      @Marvin-dg8vj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or train them or motivate them to fight in another country

  • @susantocp
    @susantocp ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I live in Bali. There are so many young Russians living here now, most are digital nomads. And the number has been increasing since the war.

    • @thebluemax6801
      @thebluemax6801 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is a báli?...

    • @PraneshSacher
      @PraneshSacher ปีที่แล้ว

      an non of them wants to take responsibility ... it's not a new situation this goes on since 20 years, India, Thailand, Indonesia, ...millions of Russian are living there and hoping their passport will get renewed by the dictator. Putin likes that all the intelligent people are going far away he can rule in Russia the Siberian peasant.

    • @chezmoi42
      @chezmoi42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@thebluemax6801 Short answer, it's a country. Look it up.

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chezmoi42 Even shorter - it isn’t a country, but an area in Indonesia, which is a country. 😂

    • @chezmoi42
      @chezmoi42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pacmanc8103 Pardon my error.

  • @alesd2120
    @alesd2120 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When the video started my first thought was - another episode of "Robwords" is out:)
    Thanks for the great reporting!

  • @angieleemans8316
    @angieleemans8316 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    War has changed a lot of People mostly in Belgium where I live... It's tough

  • @jenskapmeyer2579
    @jenskapmeyer2579 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I instantaniously recocgnized Robs voice and accent from my beloved TH-cam lessions "Rob's words" - what lovely surprise to see you here in DW !

  • @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669
    @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    TH-cam vlogger Konstantin of " Inside Russia " has talked about this problems and more , he is now in Uzbekistan, hiding from the mobilization, left within a week of its start.

    • @concernedrabbit9075
      @concernedrabbit9075 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If India doesn't sell them parts soon the trains will stop running all over russia. Konstantin said that a popular train in the Urals has already been stopped so they can keep trains running between Moscow and Saint Petersburg. They also rely on trains for troop movement. Hopefully India will not get involved with skirting sanctions.

    • @csvigneshwar3390
      @csvigneshwar3390 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@concernedrabbit9075 Nop Y should India follow European Sanctions?

    • @graphite282
      @graphite282 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If India wants to trade with the EU it will have to fall in line. Else it can go it alone. Also Indians standing in long lines outside embassies of EU countries for visas, will have to forget about coming to EU and go to Russia instead. Take it or leave it.

    • @tanusha6145
      @tanusha6145 ปีที่แล้ว

      In 99 percent of cases, those who left would not have been mobilized.

    • @tanusha6145
      @tanusha6145 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@concernedrabbit9075 It's a pity that Russia is still selling oil to the West. Their trains will stop immediately. Sooner or later this will happen with the current policy of the West.

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great interview with interesting guest. Thank you.

  • @graygraygraygraygraygray
    @graygraygraygraygraygray ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh hi RobWords! I had no idea you worked at DW!

  • @BlackWolf6420
    @BlackWolf6420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love DW for these little bite size info docs 💪🏻🏋🏻‍♀️🤓

  • @ralphaverill2001
    @ralphaverill2001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Besides the number of people fleeing; it's also the quality. The smart, educated, talented people aren't hanging around.
    The same things happened in Germany in the 1930's.

  • @godlovesyousomuch5894
    @godlovesyousomuch5894 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It is amazing that it appears as though Putin is losing Russia to gain nothing

    • @neverknowsbest2879
      @neverknowsbest2879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well if you watch only media of Russian enemies, of course you will get such impression.
      If you watched Russian media, you would get an impression Russia is doing a good jod and Russian enemies suffer.
      Nothing amazing here.

    • @karl9411
      @karl9411 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neverknowsbest2879 Well i know where the truth lies and its in the many and various outlets from many countries and not one censored one overseen by a dictator .

    • @neverknowsbest2879
      @neverknowsbest2879 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karl9411 Do you believe that Western media is not censored?
      DW is unironically far worse than even state Russian media. I do not exaggerate.
      Even youtube is censored.
      And Western media pretty much follows the same general narrative. Western elites have already merged into a sinlge one. West all lives in Greater America.
      Watch Arab or Indian or Turkish media. Any non-Western media. Or even Japanese (they haven't fallen into Western overmind yet completely). Then you will see multitude of opinion on this conflict.
      Or stay in your Western information bubble but please don't teach people how great your bubble is. It is not.

    • @karl9411
      @karl9411 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neverknowsbest2879 well that diatribe of blatant blather requires your medication, please take it quickly.

    • @neverknowsbest2879
      @neverknowsbest2879 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karl9411 Wow, you are such cool troll. If I could I would give you a cookie.

  • @westvirginiaglutenfreepepp7006
    @westvirginiaglutenfreepepp7006 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh wow I had no idea he was a journalist! I love this guy's TH-cam channel

  • @zingiberae
    @zingiberae ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was listening to this while napping and was awakened like wait, isn't this the guy I learned from the difference between William and Guillaume

  • @jp6234
    @jp6234 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    Excellent coverage. Unfortunately the commentators did not mention the possibility of vassal states breaking away from Russian and reclaiming their independence. There is hope for the Russian people but none for their genocidal regime.

    • @suportbghelp4938
      @suportbghelp4938 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LOL i just planing to migrate in Russia, because live in Russia look good in this YT videos, specially in Moscow.But genocide...really?

    • @fightthepower4648
      @fightthepower4648 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Our Global Problem: Genocidal Global Power Elites have all the power and control; People Power is currently a dream.
      2. Our Global Solution: Global Online Democracy Systems (GODS) can permanently place power in the hands of the people.
      "Fight the Power - Global Declaration of Independence" (TH-cam video) offers a unique and viable global solution to global problems. Be a part of the solution; do it for our children and our planet. We have to save ourselves!

    • @cindypomerleau950
      @cindypomerleau950 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Ethnic cleansing has been going on for decades in Russia. Hopefully they have not completely forgotten their roots. Because of re-establishing the former USSR, Putin has single handedly all but guaranteed the separation of Russia into territorial states ruled by regional politics. The people would definitely be better off.

    • @africaisking7817
      @africaisking7817 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would anyone leave Russia for trash Ukraine 🤡

    • @Benjamin-tg79
      @Benjamin-tg79 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Why do you interfere in the affairs and life other coutries? Put things in order in You country. Where NATO goes, there is chaos, devastation, military coups and war everywhere. Your democracy brings troubles and sorrow!

  • @gregparrott
    @gregparrott ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mr. Itskhoki's description of how Russia may change following the war is both realistic and depressingly bleak. Even the best scenario - a new, more benign leader replaces Putin, seems like an unlikely and unstable proposition. All other possibilities, such as the disintegration of Russia, leading to the release of many suppressed regional and ethnic conflicts, would yield an even darker future.

  • @evabrunson8413
    @evabrunson8413 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rob Watts does some of the best interviews. Thoughtful, considered, allows his guests to talk… excellent interview although very sad and worrying. especially for Ukraine.

    • @delloda
      @delloda ปีที่แล้ว

      He has a great youtube channel too! Robwords

  • @NUMMEHARBEN
    @NUMMEHARBEN ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would have been good if you had showed some graphs of how the population was some years ago, and how it might look 5 years in the future.

  • @bobloomis246
    @bobloomis246 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    But out of every 100,000 of mobiks, how many are surrendering or simply walking away and refusing to serve? 10%? 25%?

  • @markcummings6856
    @markcummings6856 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great interview. Thanks.

  • @enkephalin07
    @enkephalin07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey, that's Rob Words. Wasn't expecting that.

  • @NewBeginnings413
    @NewBeginnings413 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    First of all: this war is about Russia and Ukraine. No one forced Russia to commit a war crime. And Russia attacked Ukraine for no reason.
    Second, funny how Russia says nothing when Finland becomes a NATO member.
    Ukraine didn't even apply to become a NATO member.
    Nukes don't need to be 3 km away from Moscow to hit Moscow.
    Third, all Russia does not have to do is to invade a NATO country. NATO is a defensive alliance.
    Fourth: How is it ok for Russia to invade and start over 18 wars since the mid-90s? And “blame” it on the west, yet no one attacked Russia?
    It seems that bothers Russia a lot. Why?

    • @bholmes5490
      @bholmes5490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a always a reason, whether it makes sense to you or me is unimportant. Putin made the decision. The reason I support Ukraine is that I fear totalitarian regimes. Putin must not be allowed to proper from this event.

    • @kman5768
      @kman5768 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you have to dig a bit more to find out why there is this war. You may be pleasantly surprised!

    • @Cocoisagordonsetter
      @Cocoisagordonsetter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Finnish folk are not their kin. For starters.......

    • @viktorias63
      @viktorias63 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its about genocide not NATO

    • @kman5768
      @kman5768 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viktorias63 Genocide of the Palestinians!

  • @jude_the_apostle
    @jude_the_apostle ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As soon as Oleg mentioned the secret contract between Putin and the population, i knew he was a Vlad Vexler subscriber 😂

    • @vanhamies8512
      @vanhamies8512 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As much as I enjoy Vlad, commentators have been saying this for decades. The political disengagement was a feature of soviet society as well.

  • @udz5480
    @udz5480 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It is sickening what this war is doing to the ordinary peoples of the ukraine and russia who are the innocent victims. when will humanity change and see that hurting others like this is just not on.

    • @regorlone4139
      @regorlone4139 ปีที่แล้ว

      There will be no change in humanity if dictators continue to exist, they are the reason for humanities suffering.

  • @johnwehrle7206
    @johnwehrle7206 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Excellent coverage of the situation in Russia and Ukraine. Slava Ukrani 🇺🇦

  • @xorbodude
    @xorbodude ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have to mention the mobilization is not uniform across the regions and districts of Russia. More rural areas will lose men.

  • @AndrewG975
    @AndrewG975 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Presenter does a great job on Athlean-X.

  • @johntracey6451
    @johntracey6451 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great to listen to.

  • @144Donn
    @144Donn ปีที่แล้ว +37

    On a positive note: it is refreshing to hear people who are not just "talking heads". They actually say important things and speak the truth as they see it.

  • @thomastannler3875
    @thomastannler3875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the DW would put dates on thier broadcasts

  • @rmatalanga
    @rmatalanga ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob Watts? I know you from other quarters. Happy to see you here on my favorite news channel

  • @George-2115
    @George-2115 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    *There is hope in the face of this tragedy*
    Consider that now not only a majority of Germans, Ukrainians, and Poles, but also Russians (those who are not stuck in the Russian information bubble) all agree on what is needed. A Ukrainian victory and a defeat of the aggressor state. They agree that this is what they all need for a better future. This has never happened before! Just the thought of it brings a tear to my eye.

    • @hughjass1044
      @hughjass1044 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sure hope you're right, especially as regards Germany since there's not a leader anywhere in Western Europe that I trust less than Scholz. Maybe I'm reading the guy all wrong but he very much gives me the impression that he's only doing what he's doing because he's being pressured and shamed into doing so. I get the feeling that he'd give Putin anything he wanted if he could and that he'd be at Putin's feet groveling and begging for oil and gas within hours of a ceasefire.
      Another important point to remember.... There have been countless times throughout history when "a clear majority" of a population group supported or wanted something and it still didn't happen.

    • @TheCroupier74
      @TheCroupier74 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep it’s hard to break this Russian cycle that is probably in their DNA and has developed for hundreds of years, finally it will all come to a end.

    • @George-2115
      @George-2115 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@hughjass1044 Re: Scholz, yes, he was problematic, but so was every German party, except the Greens (which were not very big), I'm sure public pressure is a large part of the reason for the turn around, and that's important. Still, remember, France, Italy, Belgium and Spain have all given *half as much or less* by GDP than Germany. Currently, Germany is 15th in Europe for aid by GDP, so, just barely in the top half.
      Yes, majorities have failed to win in the past. My point is that these countries have never had their majorities *ON THE SAME SIDE.*

    • @dark_master_Makei
      @dark_master_Makei ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TheCroupier74 Dream more.Thank you, but we are even more united in spite of you. By the way, my mother is Ukrainian, and my father is Russian, and they gave birth to us and brought us up without any hatred for each other.Because we are one people.

    • @Charlotte-vp2fu
      @Charlotte-vp2fu ปีที่แล้ว

      What Zelensky is doing is a spin and we can only hope that Western leaders tries to regain their braincells and let Putin have ALL of Ukraine if he wants to.... If not, we're all done for... Ukraine is NOT and will never be a part of The West.

  • @kaymuldowney6752
    @kaymuldowney6752 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I'm not going to listen to the full interview because I'm rushing .So I'm giving my own views I'm neutral .I actually heard little of Ukraine before Russia invaded them . I feel particularly sorry for Ukraine who were invaded by Russia ,because they thought it was easy picking.I also feel tremendous pity for the unfortunate Russian soldiers who have to fight in this war , not for freeing the people as they thought, but because their leader wanted to own and claim Ukraine. Wrong , wrong wrong..This is theft. We have to call it what it is

  • @KodaGSD-uf3hg
    @KodaGSD-uf3hg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you great interview

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't forget those who have money. They move to Thailand and Bali and pay premium for accommodation making an incredible hike in rental prices.

  • @eddieromero3391
    @eddieromero3391 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent Report ....

  • @lancedmello
    @lancedmello ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's always good to see, Very well spoken and well educated Russians.

  • @aaron.aaron.v.b.9448
    @aaron.aaron.v.b.9448 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    one should take into account that a certain amount of corruption was actually not a deviation from but part of the contract, as it opened a lot of space to a lot of people.

  • @actpb12
    @actpb12 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really have come to appreciate the great coverage by DW. Along with Al Jazeera, it's my go-to channel for an internal perspective of what's happening around the world. Excellent work, German government!

    • @nsevv
      @nsevv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Al Jazeera is too biased.

    • @bethanhallam6268
      @bethanhallam6268 ปีที่แล้ว

      Al Jazeera is very good to a point but on some subjects biased. Might be due to who funds them.

  • @susanwestern6434
    @susanwestern6434 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rob Words - Rob. Love that channel.

  • @paulbuckland2078
    @paulbuckland2078 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanx DW for an insightful & interesting interview. A great pity the majority of Ruzzians aren't like Oleg. Slava Ukraini!

  • @markdesign6839
    @markdesign6839 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And how many Russian men are hiding from being drafted within their own country?-Those who could not flee abrought..

  • @buckwheat6722
    @buckwheat6722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done, fascinating!

  • @Locutus
    @Locutus ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob, I had no idea that you did DW, as well as your TH-cam channel!

  • @Randy778
    @Randy778 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Either join the exodus or the meatgrinder. Your choice. As a reminder: Ukraine´ll receive endless supplies.

    • @cjmatulka8321
      @cjmatulka8321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Stalin would agree that the Putin goals are, casually speaking, u realistically unachievable and he will be getting closer to his own civil war soon as they can find someone honest enough to hold the cash.

    • @deniseproxima2601
      @deniseproxima2601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sitting in the cold - endless supplies ?

  • @johnhasty3411
    @johnhasty3411 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great interview…

  • @knowledge_715
    @knowledge_715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good question and answer 👍

  • @Brenden667
    @Brenden667 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The English etymology guy, didn't realize he's a reporter. Good job.

  • @uncleanunicorn4571
    @uncleanunicorn4571 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would worry about the same thing that we worried about during the collapse of the original Soviet Union: a proliferation of unguarded nuclear weapons if Russia collapses.

  • @charlescloudy
    @charlescloudy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What's not being talked about is Russia's population is old. Really old, there's not many young people left. 300,000 young Russia men can end the age of Putin.

  • @fpxpGetReal
    @fpxpGetReal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what I wonder about is ,does this not apply to any country at war ?

  • @steelcrown7130
    @steelcrown7130 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    As an English speaker myself, it says a lot that the best analysis in English about this war is from DW and France 24 ... not the BBC, which is pretty pathetic.

    • @curtisep5885
      @curtisep5885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately BBC is NOT what it once was!

    • @FLHBR
      @FLHBR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's wrong with the BBC's coverage?

    • @deathski2
      @deathski2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FLHBRpropagandist pish. Next.

    • @daveharruk
      @daveharruk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would suggest that you follow Jeremy Bowen who has offered quite insightful coverage on this war. And also that you watch Mariupol: The People's Story. The BBC does sometimes get it right when it lets journalists do their job

    • @chrispenn715
      @chrispenn715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FLHBR They barely have any and it's always old news.

  • @overtheGarage-ue8lh
    @overtheGarage-ue8lh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think the important question here is how many soldiers can the Russian supply with weapons, winter kit, food and water?
    I'd say they have already past the point where they can outfit an army. They can send all the men they want to the front but what will they do when they get there? Freeze?

  • @yyy409
    @yyy409 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I am from russian I already escaped from Russia
    I really don't want back my country 😞

    • @chezmoi42
      @chezmoi42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stay safe.

  • @silverforest4682
    @silverforest4682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We hope the war stops soon. So many being killed for nothing. People who could be doctors, scientists, engineers, etc.

  • @allamaadi
    @allamaadi ปีที่แล้ว

    RobWords is a DW correspondent?? Amazing!

  • @robwyyi
    @robwyyi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great job DW. Your guests corrected your host on kremlin ending call up. It is still open ended to continue call up.

  • @taymazdizali1894
    @taymazdizali1894 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Real analysis.

  • @zsuzsannablasko5250
    @zsuzsannablasko5250 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This absolutly senceless war has to be stopped at once.

    • @physicalchemistry2481
      @physicalchemistry2481 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not before Russia loses. If we stop the fighting now, the next fighting will begin at today's battle lines.

    • @viktorias63
      @viktorias63 ปีที่แล้ว

      tell that to Putin

    • @zsuzsannablasko5250
      @zsuzsannablasko5250 ปีที่แล้ว

      Er hörte Tausenden nicht zu und brachte auch Russland und andere Staaten in ein Disaster.
      Informiere Dich besser und lerne verstehen, was Du beitragen kannst.

  • @ewilliamsz2099
    @ewilliamsz2099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This war will go down in history as the biggest blunder by any country ever.

  • @pat-2024
    @pat-2024 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Missing the 300.000 to Armenia…

    • @tringuyen7519
      @tringuyen7519 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And Russia won’t help Armenia against Azerbaijan!

    • @cjmatulka8321
      @cjmatulka8321 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russians are bent on Moldovan assets assuming Ukraine forces had capitulated. Whenever Russians decide to leave Ukraine forces in Moldova will be picking out a washing machine and heading back to the depths of Soviet propagandaville and all its privilege.

    • @bachristus
      @bachristus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My condolences to Armenians

  • @silkee1922
    @silkee1922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The guest was a brilliant person.

  • @Oblithian
    @Oblithian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well in general, war is never a sustainable path.

  • @MikeParsonsOutdoorGearCoach
    @MikeParsonsOutdoorGearCoach ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the very best overviews I have ever watched, and I have watched a lot of them.

  • @jannarkiewicz633
    @jannarkiewicz633 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You missed some key factors. Russia was already an aging population. Its population has been shrinking.

  • @gordonadams5891
    @gordonadams5891 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Russia has a declining population problem. It really can't afford to lose thousands of men because of the war.

  • @brandonmcheyenehoward1077
    @brandonmcheyenehoward1077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Talk

  • @ChadwickVonGriffindorIII
    @ChadwickVonGriffindorIII ปีที่แล้ว

    "swift" as in brief

  • @savangmao8996
    @savangmao8996 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Russian troops and people must stand up to topple Putin.
    .

  • @jdubb6960
    @jdubb6960 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    They're gonna start sending grandma's with pitch forks to the front lines 😆

    • @E3ECO
      @E3ECO ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe they'll do better.

    • @mileshigh1321
      @mileshigh1321 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or maybe every new conscript gets a chair they can throw at the front lines!

    • @lorneeveleigh1065
      @lorneeveleigh1065 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m sure he would send his own granny if he thought he would get away with it

    • @susanwestern6434
      @susanwestern6434 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Alot of those grannies support the special military operation.

    • @LeadLeftLeon
      @LeadLeftLeon ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That’s Ukraine who conscripted 60 year old grandpas

  • @scottsterling7659
    @scottsterling7659 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't know that Rob Watts was a journalist, how fun!

    • @andreborges2881
      @andreborges2881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is here that he uses his words, it seems!

  • @farazkhan7035
    @farazkhan7035 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    very good journalism . may allah bless the team at DW .

  • @rainerwinkler8635
    @rainerwinkler8635 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isnt Rob Watts the same guy, who makes videos about the origin of english words?

  • @FuManchu5ltr
    @FuManchu5ltr ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Russia aside, I only knew Rob Watts from his language TH-cam channel. I had no idea he was a presenter with DW.
    My mind is blown.

  • @ricktasker8248
    @ricktasker8248 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @thunder881
    @thunder881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good analysis

  • @Johannesai1
    @Johannesai1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After WW1 and WW2 there were population transfers. For instance, Germans moved from Poland to Germany and Polish people moved from the USSR to Poland just after WW2. The problem with Ukraine and Russia is that there wasn't any population transfer after the dissolution of the USSR. Ethnic Russians speaking Russian and living in Eastern Ukraine didn't move to Russia after 1991.
    Since the 1800s, the development of nation-states worldwide hasn't stopped. The USSR was a long pause on this. Thus, similar case for Croatia + Herzegovina, Bosnia, and Serbia + Serpska (Serb) Republic. If there are no population transfers according to ethnicity, conflicts in both the European Balkans and Eastern Europe won't stop.

    • @texaswunderkind
      @texaswunderkind ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There wasn't a "Russian-speaking minority" in Ukraine until Putin fabricated one.

  • @WooShell
    @WooShell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know Rob was a newsreader on DW.. I've only been following his language channel for the last year, and when I heard him talk here, I thought "wait, did I click the wrong video?"..

  • @Affeshatem
    @Affeshatem ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s very important to emphasize…

  • @cobwebtheorem7538
    @cobwebtheorem7538 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:01 You will enjoy a steady, stagnant level of well-being 😂😂😂