Intel i7-8700K vs i7-2600K - FINALLY Time to Upgrade Sandy Bridge?
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- Is it FINALLY time to upgrade? User of older Intel Sandy Bridge systems have been asking themselves that for years. But now with Coffee Lake here, could this FINALLY be the time to upgrade. Maybe.....but then again, maybe not. We will run some benchmarks to find out!
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Wow. Intel really hit the nail on the head with Sandy Bridge. I did not think it would be that close to the 8700k in gaming.
proof thatintel didnt bring anything significant since sandy bridge well i want to see ryzen 2 i hope it does well
It's less that they hit the nail on the head, and more that they haven't needed to do much in the way of performance improvements since.
Abdou Saadi Not really, it's proof that games are way more GPU dependent than CPU dependent.... which we already knew.
SandyBridge was the last big jump, before adding more cores now.
But a lot changed since then. You can overclock an i7 2600K to 4.5 GHz, you now get that without overclocking. Here the SandyBridge will easy eat 70W extra.
But the real changes come when you use features like AVX2 or arbitrary integer precision operations then you will see huge leaps in performance. And DDR4 and other new technologies.
This is why averages are misleading, if you look at the frame-time analysis you'll see the sandy bridges frame time variance is significantly poorer, techreport demonstrate this in some of their articles. Having said that Sandy bridge was well a head of it's time, and before Intel started using toothpaste for TIM 0_o.
It doesn't matter how fast the Intel i7-8700K is if you can't buy them anywhere.
Very good point (at the time of this video release anyway).
I think you missed the point of the video.
They're in stock right now on B&H's website
not for me??
Supply is a problem at the moment in Europe. E-shop I usually purchased imported some CPUs from France and so the prices are a tad bit too high atm. I just want to skip the Xmas rush, but its looking like I will waiting till after the holidays, if there are no cpus and interesting mobos to choose from in Oct.
Just picked up a PC with a i7 2600 for $40. I put my old GTX 770 in it and gave it to my little brother. He now has a sick PC for $40!
Tyler full pc for just 40? This is steal, dude ☺ Wish I could have same prices to make server from that box.
Tyler that’s awesome
Tyler From where?
very cheap price, most time they are sold for 100$ minimum on ebay...
Thats awesome, congrats!!
Still rocking a Sandy Bridge here as my main editing rig - after seeing this I think it's time to upgrade! Got my money's worth with the 2600k though, at 5 years.
Good, you should upgrade your GPU
I'm thinking exactly the same mate! 2600K is so capable that simply going through the process of selecting new parts has outweighed the benefits until now, perhaps.
+DIY Perks Glad to see you here, currently planning a DIY wooden mITX case inspired by your awesome MDF build :)
The graphics card I have takes up 3 slots so unfortunately it won't fit in the original design. However I could easily go with a low profile cooler and put the card above the motherboard with a riser so I'll see how that works out.
I am still at a i7 920 and a GTX 670 you think i should Upgrade to 2600k or 8700k
+Psyk0l0ge I'd say your choice should be either 2600k or a Ryzen 5, but I'm a bit biased. I have both a 2600 and a Ryzen 1400 but I don't do a lot of video editing, but the Ryzen system definitely feels more responsive of the two. Also remember that Sandy Bridge is at the end of its life span while Ryzen is still very fresh, if you need something in the future the latter will be easier to source parts for.
Beware of Windows 10 updates though, I had to let my old 2016 version run through a few loops of updates and restarts before it became stable. Other users have reported the same thing happening but if you download the latest installer from Microsoft you should be good to go no matter which one you end up going for.
I could run a few transcoding benchmarks for you if you want, just let me know if you do.
I'm still rocking my 2600k system. Finally updated my system with a 6gb 1060 and an SSD main drive. It was a night and day difference and it felt like I had a whole new computer for less than $400 XD
meanwhile a new console is 400$.........
and i doubt a ps4 feels 400$ different from a ps4 pro XD
@Dub Steppin And imagine when you get a new cpu!
I did the same thing dude. Lol at all these people going out and buying brand new cpu's.
what was your old gpu?
@@AdolfHitler-xp1nx I have the Pro the regular one is just plain nazti
I actually upgraded my i5-2500K recently.
To an i7-2600K. I also overclocked my RAM to 2133MHz CL9.
Still good for a year or two.
I heard the ram going from 1866mhz to 2133mhz doesnt make a difference in gaming. It was a review from Anandtech I believe
The added mhz to ram does help.. the key their is cl9. Timings and frequency matter.
Typically 2133 has longer timings than 1866, but at the same timings 2133 will give you some boost.
Can't I just download more cores for my *2500k* ?
No but you can download more ram
C O N S T A N T V A R I A B L E S yea
There were pentiums were you could download hyperthreading. You had to pay for a key.
you could look for a cheap i7 2600k. The hyperthreading really helped it a lot if you look at modern applications
I bought a used i5 2400 machine months ago and I'm perfectly happy with it.
This year I upgraded my CPU to an i7-4790K. It's a 3.5 year old processor and it's still top 5 for single threaded performance. I couldn't be more happy with it!
I have been using 2400 in my rig since 2011, only changing graphics card from time to time... Currently having gtx 970 still loving it...
Malaysian MGTOW It was Q2 2014, so more like 3.2 years if you want to nitpick.
Where the hell did you pick up an i7 4790 for $100? That's insane.
same 😀
It’s beautiful how well this has aged. I’m still running my overclocked build from 2011 with a water cooled 2700K and outside of upgrading the ram, graphics card once and installing a series of SSDs I still haven’t been convinced to abandon the 2700K. Officially 10 years after I put that rig together
Yeah, haven't experienced slowdowns noticeable enough to need an upgrade. Still using Sandy Bridge to this day.
3770k running 4.8ghz almost same performance or better than stock 6700k, money saved from upgrading $975 cpu /ram /motherboard
:O omg xD
Same here dude, downgraded from a Skylake i5 just to get better fps and save money.
how good is that i7 but the NON K version? i dont oc and never will, so im wondering if is it any good at stock speed?
Intel's most legendary chips:
i7 2600k
i7 920 (the precursor to Sandy Bridge)
q8800
e6600
q9650
i3 530 (it fookin over cloooockkksss)
Nicholas Farnolo q9850/q6600.
I think you might be meaning the Q9650? I used to own that chip.
I'm dumb haha that's what I meant. I typed that when I was half asleep.
I'd also count the 3770k. It's basically a 2600k with only 77W TDP which is fricking impressive.
dont forget the xeon 1230 v3
Yeah, the 2600K is still perfectly fine for productivity and gaming. Can you imagine in 1998 using a CPU from 1991? You couldn't even install Windows. Moore's Law has slowed down a lot in CPUs. And local computing requirements for most things have gone way down. You could still get by with a Core 2 Quad easily.
i have a machine with intel p35 and a Q6600 and guess what? mindless the instructions that kentsfield does not have i can do almost everything i do with my new ryzen 7 1700. so...
I still have a i7 980 xe at 4.3 GHz 6c/12t almost 8 years old still works like a beast.
QuantumBraced I have an l5408 @2.8 GHz with no voltage increase and run most of the latest games at between medium to high settings paired with a gtx 1050 ti and am very happy with it's power-efficient Performance that beats a q6600 while using half the energy and is in the range of a newer i3-4150, not bad for a 10 year old xeon! As an example I get lows of 42 fps and average 52 fps with medium/high settings in 2017's Prey, sweet!
i still have a C2 Q6600 and i have no problem doing web, some gaming and most apps. you're right is taking a lifetime for apps to evolve
r3dleh i have a p35 and q6600 to and i was able to push it to 3.4ghz but every thing felt fast forward like you were fast forwarding a video lol
4770K here, not really seeing any point to upgrade for a bit
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I came to the comments just for this!
Same here. Still going strong at 4.5Ghz
i7 6700k im fine waiting to 2020
4790k, just ordered the 8700k tho, Haswell/Devil´s Canyon served me very well
still using my 2600k in 2018 for AAA games, runs all of them without a problem
I still have an i7-870 :D (yes, it's a 1st gen, of 2009)
Also, random reply!
i7 2600k@4.5ghz/16gb ddr3 2133mhz cl10/gtx 1070@2050mhz - still rocking in 2020.
I'm just upgrading TO an i7 2600k, I don't think I'll upgrade FROM it in some time...
@@ScillogScratch Woah wtf
Also, don't forget you'll need an overclocking motherboard
@@ScillogScratch k processors also have better resale value. Good job
I'm about to upgrade to a i7 2600k from my i3 2100 as well haha. You can find them for cheap now so why not? And this i3 2100 I'm using is still fast!
Lol caveman
Yeah nee 2
that proves that 2600k is a great processor and that 2600K owners who intend to upgrade for gaming purposes is pointless
This video proves nothing but stupidity of testers. With this GPU running at 1440p even pentium would seem like a great processor.
TECH with Tony Lski
I mean, no... a dual core will have a really hard time with most newer games that are designed to use 4 cores.
Even dual core will be just fine in 4k. It won't need to render hundreds of frames, cos the framerate itself will be low. Learn computers.
It's crazy that 2600k is still so damn good when overclocked. A 6 year old cpu from 2005 was multiple times slower when sandy bridge launched in 2011. If you ask me it's the best value for money cpu of all time. Now if one could just get m.2 and other coming features to work on full speed with these older mobos I'd never upgrade.
My uncle drives a bus, right?
Because AMD screwed up in 2011 with Bulldozer, so Intel was sitting on it's ass and doing almost nothing. Other thing is, in 2023 we won't see that much jump either, because these CPU architectures are pretty close to reach their IPC limits and it's getting more and more difficult to squeeze the performance out of this architectures these days.
ya but if 2600k vs 7700k, exemple if you oc to 4.6ghz, 7700k will have more max fps, and more stable low fps
who cares about 10 fps? and more stable just in a very few games so not worth it
i prefer to have low fps 30+ not 15-20, then i select 7700k+
2600K and GTX1070 Strix OC here. 👌😊
Sir SavesALot hey bro can i make rx Vega 56 with İ7-2600K will there any problem can i play games at ultra? Pls answer
I'm about to undergo an even more extreme upgrade: going from a core i7 920 (that's bloomfield, the very first generation of i7, been using it since 2010) to an i9 9900k. The difference should be hilariously astronomical. If anyone's interested, I'll update the thread with benchmark results showing the difference.
Go for it dude, difference is enormous 👍👍👍
involver involver It’s happening. Got all the parts, just waiting on the RAM to arrive
@@coops3600 do some benches on your old one first. 😉
Nishe Siel where's our update lol
I hav had my 4790K for years now.... And I'll just keep running it!!!
4790K - best Intel CPU ever made, using it right now too to write this comment :-)
I'm on my 3770k xD
4690k here
i have my ryzen 3 1200 XD
im on 4790K this thing gonna slay for a few more years yet
I have a 3770K and not planning on upgrading.
Same here maybe in 2020 worth the upgrade.
Also Rocking a 3770k, popped a 1080 in there and hit 4.9 with 1.32 Vcore. That mostly eliminates the bottleneck on the cpu side.
Zefram0911 I'm still rocking a 680 with mine too 😂
Same here, got a 1080 this year and everything is running flawlessly, 3770k running at 4.6 1.3v and gaming at 1080p 120 fps. Only thinking upgrading with a Zen 2 12nm next year.
The mobo from this video can handle the ivy-bridge 3770k as well (so sandy 2600k was not top there). That was my upgrade long time ago - replaced some weak processor with 3770k :)
Still rockin' I7 2600K on the Z68. Upgraded the gpu to a GTX 1080.
I'm rockin' a 2700k on the Z68 still. My GTX580 has just died and I was thinking of doing a full upgrade or just getting a GTX 1080 for now and perhaps upgrade motherboard, cpu and ram at a later date. So does it run ok on the old PCI Express slot instead of the PCI Express 3.0 ?
me too i7-2600k with GTX 1060 , 12 GB RAM ,SSD
even if its pci-e 2.0 you will lose like 2-5 frames
for me and gaming 2600 k 970 gtx
16 gigs 2600k 4.5ghz 1080gtx , same stuff
2600K was the end of Moore's Law
performance wise ya
No, new CPU's are much faster, it's just the games. Modern engines are optimized for 4+ threads, the consoles using low performance CPU too, so you don't really need a strong CPU for gaming nowadays. The new CPU is much faster in other softwares as you can see, it's just the games having minimal difference.
there faster but its not reflecting moores law. The number of transistor in a cpu is following moores law though.
You completely misunderstand the results and Moore's law
hotpocketpoison Not when the old ones are overclocked!!!
Exactly the info I wanted to know
I'm upgrading to the old i7 2600k !
i5 3570K checking in. Still a great gaming CPU.
Yes i5 3570k is still good but now for AAA games is the time to perhaps swop it out for the i7 3770k ( I just did that in one machine )
I agree, get the i7. Just did it and helps tons. If you are normal, you have things other than games running and that helps even in older games that use less threads.
Same situation, don’t want to upgrade due to exploits in hyper threading
my friend has a i7 4770k its perfect
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1)Humor
2)Voice narrator
3)amazing camera shots! i don't have to pause to enjoy the details of a motherboard! its not super slow but also not super fast and it has great lighting!
+1 good content!
wish i got the i7 2600k instead of the i5 2500k. upgraded to ryzen and been pretty happy with performance so far
Danny C. same here :) Was a 2600k user then I put a GTX 1070 to it last year. Last month I upgraded to Ryzen 7 1700X (still gtx 1070) and I'm so happy with it.
Hyperthreading still does not improve game performance, all you would have gotten out of a 2600k is 2MB more L3 cache. Not nothing, but also way too little gain for the $100 more the i7s cost.
The reality is that games want a few fast single cores, and it does not take much to bottleneck the GPU even with 6 year old hardware. AMD just didn't have fast single threaded performance until this year which made it look like CPU performance mattered a lot more when they kept losing in benchmarks by a landslide because their IPC was shit.
You guys have to stop with this "cores don't matter" mentality! I recently upgraded to a 1080 ti and my 4690k isn't able to keep up in almost every game even when overclocked to 4.5 GHz. I get lower fps than i should, judging by these and every other benchmark. The only place where i get similar (if not identhical) score is in benchmarks. The i5 8600k is a bad buy, since like every i5 it will be good only for a couple years. It's much better to spend 100$ more and get a 8700k. I guess it doesn't matter though, since you can't actually buy any of those. Just wait for ryzen refresh
Hyperthreading does help gaming performance in that it helps to maintain stable high fps. I changed an i5 2500 to an i7 2600 and got a smoother gameplay overall. So more cores/threads helps to avoid the low fps dips.
+Lord Zanney Have you been in a fridge since 2011? Games absolutely use HT lmao, when you're not GPU bottlenecked Intel basically shows a straight 25-30% performance boost in basically every modern game. Furthermore a lot of games even make use of 12T, again provided you're not GPU bottlenecked a 8700k can destroy the 7700k at equal clock speeds, the only problem is the 7700k is already so fast in games that it's really hard to remove that GPU bottleneck, but that potential performance is lurking.
i5 2500k squad here
Intel Core 2 Duo squad? Nah, I'm alone as always T-T
I have some Core 2 Quads stored away, not a good setup though haha.
Benpai pentium 4 3.0Ghz squad here
i5 2500k here. Still getting high frame rates.
i5-3470
Still sticking to my 2600k OC'ed to 4.5Ghz with a GTX 1070. Next year seems like a good time to make an investment into my computers upgrades.
Rocking the 2600K's smaller brother, the i5 2500K. Still hasn't given me any issues after 7+ years of heavy usage. Runs everything I throw at it. Best PC part for long term usage I've ever bought.
I5 2500K is a legend, If you do not ask too much you can subscribe to my channel since I thank you
I5-3570k@4.5GhZ on an P8Z68 ProGen 3 since 2012... With my gtx 1060 i have no big reason to Upgrade
Same here, Running an i5 3570k @4.2 on a Z77 with 2133 ddr3, And GTX 1060 with no performance issues.
Same with RX 480 8GB, for gaming it's very good but start to show it's age when compiling big projects
same , i5-3570k@4.6GHz with ddr3-2400 and a 980ti@1457MHz on z77
i5-3570 non-k and R9 390. I see no point too.
3570k with 1080ti and wanna upgrade to maximise frames where possible 🤑
I'm still using the 4790k and have no reason to upgrade but the 1600 and 8600k are so good!
zBruda I upgraded to that cpu a few months ago, Devil's Canyon has a few years left in it for sure.
zBruda 4790K here too!
Jared Moore The 6c/12t 1600 is so enticing. I might have to upgrade when Zen2 launches
zBruda if it's only for gaming, it might not be worth it seeing as the 2600k is still sufficient, but if you do any kind of editing/rendering/demanding multitasking, or if Zen2 blows the industry out of the water, then an upgrade could be useful. Personally I can't see a reason to upgrade 2600K+ gaming battlestations at this time, assuming 1080p-1440p/60-120hz. I'd recommend putting the cash to good use on a high end video card.
Jared Moore Yeah, I like to make my friends laugh with YTP videos so I much just get the 1600 and with Black Friday next month I can get good deals.
Thank you AMD
O!Technology for what? Taking so long to make a good cpu?
Probably for this video. Let the AMD fanboys live in a dream about intel's 5-10% performance increase. This flawed test shows exactly that.
lol the hate amd gave you 2 extra cores on the intel cpu (b4 you comment, just think ty)
А эти фанбои разве не про производительность в играх говорили? В играх-то как раз и наблюдается 5% на поколение в лучшем случае и это при наличии высокоскоростной DDR4.
Тот же Conroe когда вышел по сравнению с Pentium D по всем фронтам вырос на не хилые цифры.
Like intel hever had more than 4 cores CPU before.
This is the exact reason I decided to upgrade from 1070 to 1080ti. Whole system upgrade just didn’t make sense except for maybe minimum frames. I’m currently running stable at 4.6 ghz and opted for the GPU to maximize performance on my 144hz display 👍🏻
2600K purchased in April 2011, best piece of PC hardware I've ever purchased, still going strong 7 years later.
Still rocking the i7 2600k with Asus P8Z68 Deluxe motherboard!
Syed Meesam I'm using the same motherboard but with a 2500K instead.
2500k 5ghz on the same board ;)
Syed Meesam
Everyone says rocking... Constantly.
Hell ya i7 2600k p8Z68 with a Noctua D14 still laying it down to maximum affect that's wassup
Me too, I upgraded the GPU this past summer to a 1070. I had been running two 570 in SLI. The GPU was a huge improvement.
Iam a proud owner of a 2600k with and i dont see any reason to upgrade
still great rig for 1080p gaming at 60+ FPS.Will wait for new motherboards with ddr5,and maybe pci express 4 or 5
Watch proper tests, not this poorly made one. 8700K is far more superior is multithread heavy games like CRYSIS for example. There IS a reason to upgrade.
I agree with you jim, i got 2600k and i am rocking an R9 290x, that GPU is the only thing that i would consider upgrading once i cant play 60 fps @ 1080p High/Ultra settings. Till now the PC is rocking since 2011!!!
I'm the same way, My i7 2600k still does everything I ask of it very well. Coffee Lake is still tempting though... My reason being: Is having the ring bus architecture with more threads and cores with the newer motherboard feature set. (still saddled with 1600mhz ram, pci-e x2, And no M.2) But I'm also mostly happy with performance but the GTX 1080 is being held back a little.
@Tech with tony lski. (Stupid name, btw)
Except there's nothing wrong with this test. The fault lies with you, for thinking that every new game is the next Crysis/demanding as it. What you fail to understand about games, is the fact that there is no money in making games, no one can play properly. Crytek tried that, and look what happend? They closed a number of their studios, and is currently making FTP games..
why would you want more than 60 fps?? if ur monitor is 60 hertz
Just picked up a used 4770k for $190 because of stutters in BF1 with an i5. So happy with it, hopefully it will hold up for years to come!
Replaced my old 4440 with a 4790k, it will be my primary gaming chip until 2019/2020. You'll be fine, just cool it well and overclock it.
UnbendingNose For games it'll be fine for awhile for sure, and remember that you can always delid it for some more performance.
SlavjanA UnbendingNose if you're not comfortable risking your $200 part, could always consider putting an extra $100 towards a better cooler.
Depends on your resolution and GPU. My 4770k @4.5ghz bottlenecks my 1080ti at times.
MURDocCW that's odd, which games do you experience this on? My 4790k @4.6ghz is yet to bottleneck my RX 480 @1365mhz +100mhz memory offset.
I am still rockin' two Sandys in this house, and they are still both beast AF!! A 2500K at 4.5GHz, and a 2600K at 4.3GHz. I know I can push them further, but I really like that 1.3v range for temps and efficiency. Still not seeing any real reason to upgrade with the exception of video editing. My 2600K is my main gaming rig with a 980ti, and I can play every VR game with my Vive with ease, and I can nearly max out every regular game I play. I love these chips, and I had them since 2012! Best CPU purchase I ever made! Thanks for reading. :)
My 3770K paired is with a GTX 1080 and 1440p GSync monitor. Runs soooo good.
I got the i7-2700K. Still chugging along.
my X58 i7 930 is still going strong :D Miss sata 3 though... and usb 3.. and m2...
time to upgrade to X5660/X5670, Low cost high performance 6 Cores 12 Thread!!!!
+1. Get a hexacore and OC. I'm sporting a W3680, running 4.5 GHz, nothing it can't handle... It even has unlocked multiplier!
Lol don't lie to yourself. The i7 930 can be out done by an i3 quad core at this point. Even a 980 is bottlenecked by a i7 930. And i'm not hating I owned 2 of them on an EVGA sr2 Mobo with a single 970. Once I upgraded to a 6700k got a 20 - 30% performance bump in games.
Aman Ghai just get a x5690
Im using a 1st gen i7 and can still run all games at 60 FPS, it does not matter that a 2017 i3 is superior since I'm still using a 60hz 1080p monitor.
I wish all those noobs who criticize me for still using my eight year old 6 cores/12 threads i7 980X watched this video...
Coffee Lake a big deal with 6 cores ? Not for me, I already got it almost a decade ago. And that´s with 3,33 Ghz base clock and 3,6 turbo, without even taking OCing into account.
Unless Ice Lake sets a new standard in 2018 with 8 cores and 10nm I´ll wait yet another year. I want a COMPELLING reason to upgrade, Intel !
Well, maybe Ice Lake will be a new standard because of Meltdown and Spectre. They really need to fix them, but this comes with a new architechture engineering, which means we can prob see another Bloomfield alike improvement, (hope 2X performance of Coffe Lake).
At Amazon the i7 980X is $1000 even now
"2x performance" lol ! Ice lake will be 5% faster at best.
Yup my Xeon 5670 @4Ghz is also serving me well
PinkasBrown44 8700k is 63% faster than your overpriced, money guzzling 980x.
I'm running an old i7 3770 and a GTX 1070 and was considering upgrading. After watching this I've decided to stick with it for a while longer yet. Thanks for the comparison!
I'm on a 3770k and my friend is trying to get me to upgrade. Definitely going to show him this, your thoughts reflect mine perfectly.
I7 6700k squad!
i7-2600 *K*
It was all about overclocking, the more expensive K-processors were bought to be used with OC...
So the stock clocks tests were not even needed.
In the OC tests - they are equal for games, processor from Q1-2011 still as good 7 years later :) That may be shocking, considering how fast things were changing before that.
Rendering tests - obvious, if someone is doing it professionally, needs more cores anyway.
Also idk why would you set 2400MHz memory to operate at 1333MHz speed, just select the option in BIOS and it's fine at 2400...
One more interesting test would be single core performance at same clock (maybe 4.5 GHz) for both processors.
But overall nice video, probably intel wasn't happy with showing the similar gaming performance :)
How about 4790k vs 8700k?
Almost the same.
If gaming, no difference but if editing, go for it.
Should be closer to the 8700k in non-gaming tasks than the 2600k.
I might finally replace my 4130 with a 4770/4790 or get an OEM Coffee Lake or Kaby Lake i7 later, since I want to replace my shit H-chipset motherboard anyway.
H81 chipset motherboards for the win!
they're so limiting, particularly ram slots and SATA 3 ports.
I have a 2500K and after this review I OC'ed to 4.2 GHz and got a 1070 ti even with the crazy Ontario prices at the time and also a 34" ultrawide 75Hz monitor... Holy crap! What a difference!!
It's 2019 now and my 2600K is 8 years old. It's gonna serve me for another 4 years. It has been paired with 2 different generations of GPU 4 years apart and it's gonna meet a new one for one last time.
I have i7-2600K, GTX 1060 6gb, 16gb and i play every game what i like enought good easily :)
as long as you stay away from 4Kfraud, yes indeed
I am personally still using an Ivy Bridge i5 3570k on my desktop. So yeah 1080p gaming is perfectly fine still for me. I did upgrade my 660 ti to a 970 instead of just upgrading my entire system since its still not needed.
Montisaquadeis that's good cpu just tell me the gpu you have
Montisaquadeis i5 3570 from summer 2014 here)
Its currently paired with a 970 after upgrading from a 660 ti. also paired with 16gb of 1866mhz ram and a 250gb Samsung Evo 850 ssd and a 1tb 7200rpm hdd
Montisaquadeis it's actually great
Yup handles 1080p@60 gaming perfectly for me still. I don't plan on swapping for Monitor out for another 5 years or so. SO by then Intel might have a worthy upgrade to my i5 out.
Another proof that Intel has not really innovated in a long and Coffee Lake is still not innovative. Skylake=Kaby lake (higher clocks)=Coffee Lake (2 extra cores). Essentially Coffee Lake is what Skylake should have been 2 years ago. But you know...cashing out on virtually non-existent improvements every year is...well...INTEL! Thank you AMD for bringing back competition!
OMG, thank you for this video! I can't believe came across this video when i was thinking about completely overhauling my PC... the man uses the same cpu and motherboard as me and compares it to the brand spanking new Coffee lake and proves upgrading my whole gaming pc is a gigantic waste of money! THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH! I can't believe Sandy bridge has held up so well for all of this time... since i built my pc i started with a gtx560, then a hd7970, then upgraded to a gtx780oc edition and now when i finally think its time to bite the bullet and overhaul it from scratch you just prove that its still a freaking awesome machine, Hell i might wait for the eventual release of the next generation of Nvidia cards and see if my gaming rig will last a full decade.
Great video, my P8P67 Pro motherboard died last year and took my 2500K with it, so I had to upgrade. I had no choice but to go Skylake. A friend of mine is still on Sandy Bridge but has an i5 2500 non k with 16GB RAM. I keep telling him to just put a GTX 1060 in his rig and he'll be set for at least a couple more years, but he won't do it and is sticking with his GTX 560. Definitely going to point him to this video, it's great to see people out there not just lauding the latest and greatest. Subbed ...
I would have liked to see this test with a GTX-1080ti.... not the GTX-1070.
2019 and 2600k is still the king
You used a 1070 instead of a 1080 TI, way to mislead your audience by creating a gpu bottleneck.
learn2 farm that's simply not correct. If you use a low end GPU your not going to see a CPU bottleneck because the demand on the CPU is much less. A 1080 TI require substantial amount of CPU power at high refresh rates.... especially if the game has poor CPU core scaling.
David Compart
Would you use a 800$ halo GPU product with your 6 Y.O proc ? Of course a 1080 Ti will show a bigger difference. But here we look at regular people with regular systems (1060-1070) and if yes or no it's worth it to upgrade the proc if you have a good midrange GPU.
Your statement is 100% correct in a vacuum, it stops making sense as soon as you consider use cases.
Man, if you have faster card than 1070 you go with better cpu = simple, if you have 1070 or slower gpu you no problem stay with i7 2600k.
1070 is not an old gpu to create botttleneck
But it is great with lower cpus
man you essentially replicated my exact hardware setup from 2600k to my newly orderd 8700k Fantastic!
I've got a i7-2700k at 4.5GHz, and a GTX 1080. With some new games, it's starting to be clear that my CPU is bottlenecking at least a little.
Today, I ordered an i7-8700k. It really felt it was time, now. Hexacore feels worth it.
I also use this computer for mixing music. Not as heavy work as video editing, obviously, but it's good to have good headroom when doing things in real-time. If you run out of CPU power, there can be clicking noises.
Get 1080ti and retry! You will see much more difference
not at 1440p gaming like you should now be doing!
This video only proves that 2600k will not bottleneck a GTX 1070. When you get a 1080Ti that story might change..
@learn2 farm For games? nah bro look at Gamers Nexus video "Intel i7-2600K AT 4.7GHZ in 2018: Benchmark vs. 9900K, 8700K, 2700, & More"
Correct to compare 1366 + x5690 (4.4-4.7 GHz) (350$)
1151v2 + 8700K (700$)! if to speak about work! and even the games! but not modern 6 cores with four !
Who is behind this test? support a like!
Бульбаш it will be embarrassing to watch how fast is a Westmere chip, not the x5690, but the x5650.
x5650 x5690, and possibly look the same ! but no! the highest model is very well overclocking!
My 2600k survived 8 years of daily use (the last 3 of those it was oc'd) before it died. It never had trouble in any games at all.
A moment of silence for our fallen friend :'(
It actually lasted for a really long period, maybe without overclock it would got to 10 years, who knows, but 8 years is a impressive amount of time, I mean, since I'm Always on the mid tier processor, like the most basic i5's, I had to upgrade my processor what, 3 times on the last 8 years, I ended spending more Money than you... To reach somewhat your i7 2600k performance only now, intel second generation really is a jewel, the improvments from first to second gen makes me wonder why after 3rd gen intel got so lazy...
I have a bunch of PC's, including ones built with i7-2600K, i7-4790, & i7-4790K processors. I'm still running the GTX-780ti SC on these and I figured after all these years that it should be time to upgrade to get better gaming performance. I just last week spent a week researching all the options and I decided there is not much reason to upgrade. This is pretty amazing IMO. The last PC I bought that I did not build myself was a brand new IBM PS/2 Model 80 with ALL the trimmings. I worked for an IBM dealer and even with a 20% discount that PC with Math coprocessor, 4MB RAM, 8514/A graphics card and Monitor cost me a cool $12K and change. I pretty much replaced all my PCs with new builds every 3 years since and got a good doubling of performance each time. As you said in this video the i7-2600K is 6-years old and they still haven't improved much for gaming. I check again next year and see what the GTX-1180ti and new intel CPU's bring. Their going to have to crack 6GHZ to have a chance at selling me on a new CPU/MB/RAM.
I bought a Ryzen 1600 to upgrade my 3770K but decided to return the Ryzen when I realize just by overclocking my 3770K to 4.6GHz it is 20-25% faster in game than the 1600 overclocked to 3.85 GHz.
Ryzen is a downgrade if you have a fast Intel chip and mostly just game.
that saved me from swapping out my 6700k 4.6ghz + gtx 1080 ti FE 2000mhz lmao
i was gonna do a full blowout build top of the line everything
but i mostly game so fuck that :D
Lemme guess, low speed ram? Ryzen really benefits from high speed memory... Also depends on the game. Some games aren't really optimized for Ryzen yet... Depends on resolution too, on 1080p it makes more difference, but who cares if you're getting for example 300 vs 250 FPS in CS, it's still way over your refresh rate. Also, you're buying a dead platform, Am4 will be used at least up to 2020, so you could buy a mobo now and upgrade when Ryzen +/2/3 comes. Ryzen if simply a better choice for future proofing and if you want to use anything else besides gaming, even in multitasking, and the higher core count will help in future games that are optimized for more cores. Oh and I'm not fanboying, I'm typing this from an Intel machine...
Scream Aim Fire No, got RAM to 2933 and still slower than my 3770K @ 4.627GHz w/1600 RAM.
More over, current Ryzen would be outdated sooner than an Intel system as that 200/300 FPS would soon be 20 and 30 and the difference between upgrading now or a year or two later.
Take my word, I have been using AMD from 1998 to 2006 as main PC and have my sister on AMD until 2016. I wouldn’t have bought a 1600 if I don’t like AMD. It is just a lot of the time AMD’s marketing and reality don’t match. For people on overclocked Sandy, Ivy Bridge and Haswell, it is better to wait and see what Ryzen 2/3 and Intel’s 10nm offering will be.
Peizxcv Hmmm... Yeah you made me think, I've been looking to build a new pc, and wanted to go with i7 and 1070, then Ryzen and Vega, and seeing Vega is a flop, thinking about Ryzen/Intel and Volta. No idea about the current market though, I used to check forums and reddit pages everyday, and now I'm clueless. What's holding me away from intel is purposely making new mobos needed each gen, and that single threaded performance might matter less and less on future. My comment might have seemed a bit aggresive, as I'm angered by all the fanboys, both Intel and Amd, they're driving me crazy as it's so hard to really understand what is good and what's not.
Scream Aim Fire I have been out a while as well otherwise I wouldn’t buy into Ryzen in a hurry when I thought my Z77 motherboard died.
There is a GamersNexus channel here and I find their tests valuable and less time consuming than reading Anandtech and Tom’s detailed reviews. That channel helped my catch up with current hardware and trends.
Stiill rolling with 1070ti on 2600k oc
pleb 2500K gang
Same MoBo as in the video.. with a 2700K under custom water. Was thinking about the 8700K. But now thinking just upgrade my R9290x (also under custom water) and call it a day. This system is for gaming and entertainment only. Great video!
About to upgrade from an i7 960 (Bloomfield). Couldn't be more excited!
and here my friend is just planing to buy 2600k :D
The gtx 680 is pretty equal to the gtx 1050ti and hd7970
Would have been interesting with a 1080ti
Almost spent £4.5K on a new system till I saw this. I just installed a 1080Ti and it's awesome. Appreciate the video, saved me a lot of money for the time being (I only play games).
Good video. I've been a 2600K user since 2011... I use Adobe AE to create motion graphics and this video has convinced me that it is finally time to start looking at an upgrade.
I've had the money to spare all this time but as far as I was aware the 2600K was still around 90% as powerful as anything and for that reason, the effort to find new parts, sell old parts didn't seem worth it. This video however, demonstrates almost TWICE as fast rendering... I just didn't know that was the case.
Plus, I am stuck with DDR3 1333MHz RAM, 16GB - that is a pitiful amount for Adobe AE so I'll be jumping to either 64GB - 128GB RAM.
My previous machine was based on the Q6600! and I remember almost crying with joy when I saw the 2600K After Effects performance improvements - so, it looks like I'm in for that again!
The graphics card is a BOTTLENECK! Whoops...
Joseph Young yeah duh
Still does it really make sense for us to see the results for a card no one can actually afford? I think the 1070 / 980ti is the better choice here for the most relevant data to the consumer
Why you didn't put 1080ti gpu inside?! Obiously 1070 is the bottleneck here so the results are as expected. Put 1080ti inside and be assured that 8700k will show it's power.
agreed :)
You should have used a 1080ti for the gaming test.
totally agree, those gaming test looked like they were gpu bound, not cpu.
If you have enough money to get a GTX1080Ti then you'd have enough money to buy an i7 8700k. Those of us who still have a i7-2600k are budget conscious and don't like blowing money if we don't have to.
Intranet ...or on the other hand, if you've just blown your hard earned cash on a 1080ti, you might not be left with enough spare floating around to do the CPU / mobo / ram upgrade also ;-)
Well, not really - I have to choose between upgrades. So I chose the 1080 Ti over the 7700k and I'm glad I did - my 2600k@4,8 GHz is running everything like a charm. ;) Best CPU ever made, relatively. ;)
yes the 2600K will die lol
The 2600K is epic. I actually went and upgraded to a EVGA 1080 ti SC. I'm comfortably blasting games at 1440p. The feeling of knowing that's all I have to do for now is great.
I have this 2600K setup and I'm still happy with it. I have the money to upgrade but I don't do it unless it's extremely necessary.
What settings was the games running in the benchmarks?
fake video anyway
Drop 1080Ti and the 8700K will be 2x faster.
The memory speed commentary is 100% false. My 2600k is at 1600 mhz and I did not get high-end memory at the time. 1600 DDR3 is the equivalent of 2400 DDR4. 1333 is slow for DDR3 and 2666 is fast for DDR4. This is fact, sorry.
Hey man, can you explain a bit more the equivalences between DD3 and DDR4, and what is your opinoin on running i7 2600k with DDR3 with anything above 1600 Mhz (2133 Mhz as my max allowed by my motherboard, for example.)
igloo2 My 3600 MHz is fast for DDR4...
Neiva Only CPUs that are "glued together"
There is no difference from 1333mhz to 2400mhz on gaming. Max 1-2 fps difference maybe. Latency is important thing though. An 1333mhz with low latency can perform better than a 2400mhz with high latency and timing. Thats why low cl and timing 2400 rams are higher priced than 3200.
I saw 0 difference my self from 2400 to 3200 on ryzen 1500x and gtx 1080 on GTA5 BF1 and Watch dogs 2 which i tested. Maybe 1-2 fps on gta 5 in some parts but am not sure cause test never shows the same result on every run. So no worth the spend. Unless you want to do editing etc which stress the system more.
Odiseas Kiriakis that is false.
Just about to upgrade my sandy bridge i5 2400 for i7 8700k just waiting for it to be delivered, very excited!!!! :)
Running the 2600k on my gaming rig. You just saved me cash. 😊 upgrading my workstation / server.
tells me nothing, I have a 1080 TI and I bet the 2600k is a bottleneck for me.
not in 1440p+ gaming ;)
I'm bottlenecked at 1440p with a 3570k @4.2GHz btw. The more you know..
buy 8700k :)
Leo DS bro can i ask a question pls answer bro pls Can i use rx Vega 56 with a İ7-2600K will there any problem ? Can i olay games at ultra good combination ? Pls answer bro
2600k 4.5+ghz with 1800+ ram is a best solution in your case
short answer : no
cocacoladog10 of course yes lol, the IPC gain and additional cores are 100% worth it
what ipc gains like 30% pff not worth it if you dont need more cores
well for gaming its a no now. but in 2 years maybe.
The Actual Joker well if will cost you like $400
The Actual Joker yeah just spend over 500 dollars for basically no rise in framerate instead of maybe just picking up an used sandy bridge and some more ram for about 130
So, my 2500K overclocked to 4Ghz for the last few years will serve me perfectly for a few more years.
Yeah those hyperthreads are worth the 100 bucks
$100 difference?
I thought 2600k/2700k and 2500k were pretty cheap already?
1spaghetti32 lmao
1spaghetti32 i have 5ghz
get a 3770k , i did that . i went from a 2500k to a 3770k for 80 bucks and was a jump of like 20% of general speed . i think that was for the memory support of 1600 instead of 1333 of the sandy bridge and the hyperthreading
Man this was a great video, I'm glad my 2600k is still viable for gaming. I love the stuff you guys do!!
I thought I was far far behind, but seems like others are still rocking the 2600k too. I decided to pull the trigger after 6 years for the increased connectivity and faster native bus speeds. Luckily, I have someone in mind to take my still well capable 2600k rig, so it won't go to waste.
Run the tests again with a GTX 1080ti and watch the results change dramatically.
Sure the new i7 would win with a gtx 1080 ti. But how many upgrade the gpu to a 1080 ti and dont upgrade to a i7 8700k ?
My point was the GTX 1070 is bottlenecking both CPUs.
Kenney Bohjort me
FirestoneX you Still have a 2600k?
Sure but a Common 2600k-user who is still rocking this chip until today is upgrading to a GTX 1060, 1070 or even a 1080. A 1080ti is not a common Upgrade from this CPU.
1070? dislike
And the winner is.... AMD!
Yeah pretty much
i had a 2600k with an r9 390, and it was a great little computer. i started having issues with the mob about a year and a half ago, but i just didn't have the money to get a new mother board, it still worked. but a bit less on par. so 5 months ago i decided it was time to get a new pc.
i bought a i7 8700k.
msi z370 gaming pro carbon mobo.
msi rx 580 8 gb armor oc gpu.
2x8 gb memory hyperfury x.
evo 850 500 gb ssd.
2 m.2 960 500 gb sticks.
800 watt lepa psu rate 80 bronze plus.
and i must say, it was totally worth it. if the mobo didn't have an issue i wouldn't have upgraded. i was playing world of warcraft in eyefinity mode, on 3 60 inch tvs at 5760x1080 stable 70 fps. it was seriously amazing, and the chip in today's standard is a really good point if you don't have the money for the coffee lake series.
Had a 2600k since 2011 in my Dell XPS until I just built a new gaming rig with the 8700k. Couldn’t be happier. But that Dell gave me some solid computer times.
Core 2 quad q9400 squad
Really? 1070? You are testing CPUs yet you creat a bottleneck by using a weaker gpu
Yep, totally stupid test. Re-test with a 1080ti HardwareCanucks!
players who bought gtx 1080ti are 2% and how many of them have i7 2600k ? is someone like that? This test makes sense. This is not stupid test with 1080ti
All this test proves is that a gtx-1070 is the bottleneck when used with both cpu's. It's misinformation making people think the 2600K can compete with the 8700k in gaming.
Without including a GTX-1080ti test there is no context. Soooo it's a stupid test.
(To counter your argument: Who in their right mind is going to buy a 8700K and put a gtx-1070 in it?)
learn2 farm: Ok you have a point, the productivity tests seem fine.
So only the gaming tests are stupid.
May I remind you this video is called: "Intel i7-8700K vs i7-2600K - FINALLY Time to Upgrade Sandy Bridge?" not "2 cpu's bottle-necked by a mid range GPU" like the gtx1070!
nit001 If someone has the funds for a 1080ti, there's no way they'd still be rocking a 2600k
The 6700K finally lured me into an upgrade from my much loved 2600K. No question that the 8700K is yet another step up but I have been enjoying my new system for over a year now and cost to upgrade today is significantly higher. The Samsung NVMe drive costs more, and GPU/RAM prices are MUCH higher. I think I made my purchase at the perfect time, I'll give it a couple of generations and upgrade again.
1. Great comparison!
2. Definitely surprised by the results! I didn't foresee the gaming aspect to be so close!
3. Like you said, if you're a gamer exclusively, no need to change platforms per-say. I have an i5-3570K in a z77 motherboard laying around. I'm gonna build a gaming rig for a buddy! He'll be happy to hear about your results when I talk to him!!
4. Good video for the encoder that maybe hasn't been in the video/photo editing realm since 2011 or so, thumbs up!
Still Running a 2600K since 2011... ... does everything I need it to do.. in 2017...