Two methods to improve your technique. 1) When flaying out your strips of twine use a Dog's stiff bristle brush. Drag the thatching over the inverted Dog's brush. If you are doing a lot of thatching a Dog's stiff bristle brush is invaluable. And B) When making foam board walls, as your stone block formation, make extra. Before applying it to the building or the gable end roof structure you can primp your stone size & location, distress the faux stones, base wash the entire surface and finish the weathering WHILE the entire surface is flat and easier to manipulate. Then when the stone look like something your are ready to apply to your structure you can cut the finished surface to the desired measurements.
The dog's stiff bristle brush is indeed a great Idea if you have a large amount of thatched roofs to make! Concerning doing the stonework beforehand it can be handy in several occasions but most of the time i like to be able to handle while carving in front of me, it's often proved easier to me when already set on the craft. Also if you do it beforehand better be extra careful when cuting out the piece because if you mess up the cutout you basically waisted all your efforts. ;) Thanks for your feedback! Cheers !
Landvaettr's Lair You are spot on about Thatching with a dog comb. It maybe that I do mass builds and stock pile my prebuilt materials. That's what makes it quick and easy for me. As far as prebuilding wall sections for me it's more of a relaxing Sunday afternoon (during NFL watching) passive therapy. When it comes time for a village I'll have in stock a pile of structure parts and designs. Ready to go. So I guess my suggestion would be more for those of us who BUILD A VILLAGE. (;~{ )}>
One last thing, cutting 3X longer strips of cardboard to wrap the twine around and then cutting it into 3 equal size strips makes 6 thatch strips in only slightly more time than it takes to make 2 you could do 4X or 5X but it gets a bit unwieldy at that point and 6 is generally enough for one roof
6 years later, here I am, trying to make my hut after your tutorial. Thank you! I love your craft and your channel. Are you still making terrain? Hope you’re well!
@Kevin Holland It is! Also the learning curve is fast motionwise, you can get even faster than displayed on the camera footage. Thanks for your feedback! Cheers!
Welcome on Landvaettrs Lair! Glad this could be helpful, I'm actually recording a bew tutorial right now implying Thatch that should come out in under a week... but as far as thatching is involved its mostly a variation of this technique, because it does work very well. Cheers!
noboruyamada thanks! These were made by followinqg one of Mel's tutorials from The Terrain Tutor. www.google.es/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D0PinjmITv_Y&ved=0ahUKEwj3i_yZ17fZAhUL7RQKHQZuBwoQtwIINDAB&usg=AOvVaw1ASwB_GWT5u-pk5y3FbeCP
I love the thatching! I tried to make burlap fringe edge by hot gluing a strip and taking out the long parallel threads. (I've done the same while sewing.) But mine was so sparse. Your version is soooo much better! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback! I can see what you mean with the burlap edge. This technique with the cord is defently cheap and looks good. If you want easier you can try to buy a cheap faux-fur/ bathrug that looks thin enough and cut straps. A tad more expensive but easier
Cool! If you want variety since you'll have a.bunch if them you can add washes or alternatively use a bathroom mat or synthetic fur to do the thatching.
@@LandvaettrsLair im planning to do it all in the same material so it 'feels' like all the material came from the same fields/source, but definitely doing wash variations so show differences in age, some from last season, some fresh, that kind of variety.
Really great work! I love the technique you used where you wrapped the twine around the cardboard strip to cut it all quickly. Have you tried adding a watered down stain to the thatching to make it look more weathered? I think that would help it look really natural.
Thanks. I was more going for a pristine newly made roof thatch, since these had to be refreshed fairly frequently, but you can defenenetly add a wash for a weathering effect. Thanks for your feedback!
Hi, can you also tell me, or is there also a video of how you painted those walls? And beautiful roof, but I would like it darker. Could you also paint that rope? Thanks in advance for your response
Thanks for the video, Landvaettr! I don't knwo if your channel is still active, but in case you read these comments: could you tell me where you got those miniatures towards the end of the video? They look very nice!
Hi Jakob. These are from Fenryll miniatures. It's a french group. Very fine, detailed and lifelike miniatures but casted in a very hard resin, the thinest parts are very brittle and tend to break (the scythes handles for example). Channel is not overly active but not dead by any means, I just dont have time for editing vids atm . If you are on Instagram and interested in seing some of my recent work you can follow me on instagram i'm more active there lately. instagram.com/landvaettr
Very clever technique! The only thing I'd add if I do this is to paint a bit of "grunge" onto the thatching.....it just looks wayyyyy too clean for a roof :D
JaNae Syx except if the Roof is freshly made!^^ i'm no expert but i think these kind if roof had to be refreshed pretty frequently. But yeah with a dark wash, a light gray drybrush you'll have à nice wethered aspect ! 😃
I hope you show what they look like when you make them! A bit of green and grey...maybe some dark brown stuff in there too :D I think it'd look amazing!!!!!
You didn't mentioned what kind of twine you used. Did you use Jute, Sisal or Manila twine? And if you can't get hemp twine in your area what kind of twine would work best. of the three?
Looks like sissal. Choose the one you can find that look most like hay staws. All three can do the trick I guess provided they are thick enough, boils down to the look you are going for. I havent expermented with other hemp types, unfortunately can't be of more help on this topic.
I found between the 2 sisal and Jute the sisal works best. The jute is more like actual yarn and is softer. Whereas sisal is stiff and has more of a texture and feeling similar to straw. To fray the strands of twine Ive found using a wire dog brush works great to do so but I suggest you do it outside. For it leaves a very big mess of fiber hair all over that you need to use a vacuum cleaner to clean it up.
Haven't i must say. I know usually models of the outside are often fully casted in resin. So if you want to craft using natural materials but want durability I would suggest at least coating the whole build with a good coat of resin of varnish meant for exterior.
Im gonna give this a try, you got a new subscriber. I love these videos that makes us mortal people be able to craft cool things too. xD I mean, for exampel, the stuff from channels like tabletop witchcraft. Its very impressive, but just by looking at it Im like.... nah... fuck it... ain´t gonna look nothing like that when Im done lol
Garett Vernon Fenryll Miniatures. fenryll.com/category.php?id_category=18&p=2&id_lang=1 The miniatures are very finely casted and detailled, however the plastic is very hard, making the the thinner parts brittle and fragile, which can cause breakage when assembling. I really like them tho. Fenryll is french if i'm correct so if you live abroad Europe expect some shipping costs.
I wonder how you would adapt this so you could have chimneys or dormer windows poking out from between the thatch. Would you add the to the roof first and then just cut the thatch around them?
Yes! Great lifelike miniatures i really like them. Only issue with is the plastic used to cast is real hard. Great detailling but very brittle for the thinnest parts.
While not quite as detailed, I tend to prefer the use of old or cheap/dollar store towels cut into strips and layered. The end result is a lot sturdier and easier to put together, plus it tends to look more, to me, like thatch for the scales in games
AzraelThanatos i guess it's yet another alternative. I fail to imagine how towels straps can better imitate thatching than hemp twine though. Would you happen to have pictures of the result i'm curious?
Found a site that has some comparisons. www.hourofwolves.org/?view=articles&which=thatch The thing with it is scale, the twine is close, but it's heavily off and looks oversized to me in comparison.
Christopher Murray Fenryll miniatures. It's a french group. Very fine, detailed and lifelike miniatures but casted in a very hard resin, the thinest parts are very brittle and tend to break (the scythes handles for example).
Les paysans présents sur la vidéo viennent de Fenryll miniatures, c'est des français d'ailleurs si je me rappelle bien. Les miniatures sont bien castées et détaillées en revanche la résine utilisée est très dure et le manque de souplesse rend certains éléments fins très cassants, il faudra bien les vernir mais ça restera des figurines fragiles au niveau des outils notemment.
Hempstring don't rembember the brand, robably very specific to my country. I'm sure it'll work wil any kind of hempstring provided it's got enough string entwined in the same tread!
I just tried watching one of her videos but couldn't stand her, her natural voice is fine but then she frequently offered stupid accents or voices which spoiled it for me.
Two methods to improve your technique.
1) When flaying out your strips of twine use a Dog's stiff bristle brush. Drag the thatching over the inverted Dog's brush. If you are doing a lot of thatching a Dog's stiff bristle brush is invaluable.
And B) When making foam board walls, as your stone block formation, make extra. Before applying it to the building or the gable end roof structure you can primp your stone size & location, distress the faux stones, base wash the entire surface and finish the weathering WHILE the entire surface is flat and easier to manipulate. Then when the stone look like something your are ready to apply to your structure you can cut the finished surface to the desired measurements.
The dog's stiff bristle brush is indeed a great Idea if you have a large amount of thatched roofs to make! Concerning doing the stonework beforehand it can be handy in several occasions but most of the time i like to be able to handle while carving in front of me, it's often proved easier to me when already set on the craft. Also if you do it beforehand better be extra careful when cuting out the piece because if you mess up the cutout you basically waisted all your efforts. ;) Thanks for your feedback! Cheers !
Landvaettr's Lair You are spot on about Thatching with a dog comb. It maybe that I do mass builds and stock pile my prebuilt materials. That's what makes it quick and easy for me.
As far as prebuilding wall sections for me it's more of a relaxing Sunday afternoon (during NFL watching) passive therapy.
When it comes time for a village I'll have in stock a pile of structure parts and designs. Ready to go.
So I guess my suggestion would be more for those of us who BUILD A VILLAGE. (;~{ )}>
@@jvanamb still very relevant and on topic i'm gonna pin your comment in case someone wants to build a village :D !
One last thing, cutting 3X longer strips of cardboard to wrap the twine around and then cutting it into 3 equal size strips makes 6 thatch strips in only slightly more time than it takes to make 2 you could do 4X or 5X but it gets a bit unwieldy at that point and 6 is generally enough for one roof
6 years later, here I am, trying to make my hut after your tutorial. Thank you! I love your craft and your channel. Are you still making terrain? Hope you’re well!
Very nice. One of the greatest things about the crafting community is the expansion of knowledge and modification of previous ideas. Awesome stuff!
Great idea on wrapping the twine! I've seen "twine" thached roofs before, but they seemed SO LABOURIOUS! This looks very speedy! 👍
@Kevin Holland It is! Also the learning curve is fast motionwise, you can get even faster than displayed on the camera footage. Thanks for your feedback! Cheers!
New sub here! I wanted to do some traditional Irish cottages, but couldn't figure out the thatching. Found this tutorial just in time, thanks!
Welcome on Landvaettrs Lair! Glad this could be helpful, I'm actually recording a bew tutorial right now implying Thatch that should come out in under a week... but as far as thatching is involved its mostly a variation of this technique, because it does work very well. Cheers!
Great update! Vanessa is a beast at the craft. You on the other hand made it much faster to get that result. Well done Sir! Loving your channel BTW!
Roll for Damage she is! Thanks for the support ! 🍻
the method to create the straw is brilliant
Thanks, the twine has been used for quite some time amongst the crafting community, even if I managed to speed up the process! Cheers!
Nicely done those wall pieces are very handy end up being all kinds of things.
This is so cool! Brilliant technique. I've seen twine used before, but the process is so slow. Great job with this one!
Glad you liked, thanks for your feedback!
ordered some rope! (Covid-19 still has me trapped indoors!) Can't wait to try this out.
So very Glad you added, 'Can't wait to try this out' to your comment,
I was seriously worried for you :-)
Now I can build the roofs for a Rorke's Drift diorama! Thanks for this. :)
Really nice ! I love the fields and haystacks you shown at the end too !
noboruyamada thanks! These were made by followinqg one of Mel's tutorials from The Terrain Tutor.
www.google.es/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D0PinjmITv_Y&ved=0ahUKEwj3i_yZ17fZAhUL7RQKHQZuBwoQtwIINDAB&usg=AOvVaw1ASwB_GWT5u-pk5y3FbeCP
I love the thatching! I tried to make burlap fringe edge by hot gluing a strip and taking out the long parallel threads. (I've done the same while sewing.) But mine was so sparse. Your version is soooo much better! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback! I can see what you mean with the burlap edge. This technique with the cord is defently cheap and looks good. If you want easier you can try to buy a cheap faux-fur/ bathrug that looks thin enough and cut straps. A tad more expensive but easier
Thank you so much! It was a real blessing for my first peasant house))) You are the best
Glad it helped you! Sorry for late reply!
Ça rend vraiment bien la paille pour le toit. Beau travail
Merci bien :)
great job ... thanks for the "fasterTip"
thanks for showing and please keep up the good work
Nice! I really like this technique. Gonna try it on a tavern :)
I'm definitely gonna do this for my next farm village, im planning like a 12 or more buildings and this is gonna speed things up considerably.
Cool! If you want variety since you'll have a.bunch if them you can add washes or alternatively use a bathroom mat or synthetic fur to do the thatching.
@@LandvaettrsLair im planning to do it all in the same material so it 'feels' like all the material came from the same fields/source, but definitely doing wash variations so show differences in age, some from last season, some fresh, that kind of variety.
Really great work! I love the technique you used where you wrapped the twine around the cardboard strip to cut it all quickly. Have you tried adding a watered down stain to the thatching to make it look more weathered? I think that would help it look really natural.
Thanks. I was more going for a pristine newly made roof thatch, since these had to be refreshed fairly frequently, but you can defenenetly add a wash for a weathering effect. Thanks for your feedback!
Stunning simply stunning.
Thanks!
Awesome video..thank you for such a good tutorial and sharing your knowledge
Glad to share. Thanks for your feedback!
Hi, can you also tell me, or is there also a video of how you painted those walls? And beautiful roof, but I would like it darker. Could you also paint that rope? Thanks in advance for your response
Another brilliant build. Well done!
RealmSmith thanks mate, even if the merit mostly goes to Vanessa 😊
Great work. I've been using the same technique, but yours looks better than mine.
Looking great.
Thanks for the video, Landvaettr! I don't knwo if your channel is still active, but in case you read these comments: could you tell me where you got those miniatures towards the end of the video? They look very nice!
Hi Jakob.
These are from Fenryll miniatures. It's a french group. Very fine, detailed and lifelike miniatures but casted in a very hard resin, the thinest parts are very brittle and tend to break (the scythes handles for example).
Channel is not overly active but not dead by any means, I just dont have time for editing vids atm . If you are on Instagram and interested in seing some of my recent work you can follow me on instagram i'm more active there lately.
instagram.com/landvaettr
Very clever technique! The only thing I'd add if I do this is to paint a bit of "grunge" onto the thatching.....it just looks wayyyyy too clean for a roof :D
JaNae Syx except if the Roof is freshly made!^^ i'm no expert but i think these kind if roof had to be refreshed pretty frequently. But yeah with a dark wash, a light gray drybrush you'll have à nice wethered aspect ! 😃
You're probably right, I'm not an expert either by any means LOL. All I know is I want it to be a little dirty :D haha
JaNae Syx Yeah planned to do one or two more given the rapidity of this craft and i'll defenetly age the next pieces! 😀
I hope you show what they look like when you make them! A bit of green and grey...maybe some dark brown stuff in there too :D I think it'd look amazing!!!!!
JaNae Syx could even be nice to built an abandoned house with à partially broken, wethered and mossy thatched Roof 😉
Nice idea thank you for sharing , I used fake fur the last time I did thatch.
I love this, thank you for sharing
Shaving the roof.... genius!
Not sure about the genus thing but thanks, looks more to scale this way in my opinion.
Looks great!
Very very cool roof technique, I am definitely going to try and do this on a future build, see how it turns out! :)
You didn't mentioned what kind of twine you used. Did you use Jute, Sisal or Manila twine? And if you can't get hemp twine in your area what kind of twine would work best. of the three?
Looks like sissal. Choose the one you can find that look most like hay staws. All three can do the trick I guess provided they are thick enough, boils down to the look you are going for. I havent expermented with other hemp types, unfortunately can't be of more help on this topic.
I found between the 2 sisal and Jute the sisal works best. The jute is more like actual yarn and is softer. Whereas sisal is stiff and has more of a texture and feeling similar to straw. To fray the strands of twine Ive found using a wire dog brush works great to do so but I suggest you do it outside. For it leaves a very big mess of fiber hair all over that you need to use a vacuum cleaner to clean it up.
nice idea.
have you ever made model buildings for outside (ie in the garden) im working on a model village and looking at ways to weather proof my models.
Haven't i must say. I know usually models of the outside are often fully casted in resin. So if you want to craft using natural materials but want durability I would suggest at least coating the whole build with a good coat of resin of varnish meant for exterior.
@@LandvaettrsLair noted. thanks for the quick reply.
Im gonna give this a try, you got a new subscriber. I love these videos that makes us mortal people be able to craft cool things too. xD
I mean, for exampel, the stuff from channels like tabletop witchcraft. Its very impressive, but just by looking at it Im like.... nah... fuck it... ain´t gonna look nothing like that when Im done lol
Glad the tutorial was helpful and accessible. The technique works wonders, just usdd it again for a miniature display. Cheers
Gracias
Great build! Where did you get those townsfolk mini's from?
Garett Vernon Fenryll Miniatures.
fenryll.com/category.php?id_category=18&p=2&id_lang=1
The miniatures are very finely casted and detailled, however the plastic is very hard, making the the thinner parts brittle and fragile, which can cause breakage when assembling. I really like them tho. Fenryll is french if i'm correct so if you live abroad Europe expect some shipping costs.
I wonder how you would adapt this so you could have chimneys or dormer windows poking out from between the thatch. Would you add the to the roof first and then just cut the thatch around them?
I'd defenetly add it beforehand. The straps of twine can be cut very easily before being glued on.
nice! Fenryll models too, if I am not mistaken?
Yes! Great lifelike miniatures i really like them. Only issue with is the plastic used to cast is real hard. Great detailling but very brittle for the thinnest parts.
Great work man
very late to the party hee, but i have found that you can untwist the jute twine before guint it down... saves you a lot of fiddly work later
Awesome I see exactly how you did, nice hack I'll be sure to use it next time I use this technique👍
What thickness of twine do you recommend?
I dunno quite thick, you'll spend more time untwining at the last stage but at least you'll save time building the straps!
Earned a sub bud!
While not quite as detailed, I tend to prefer the use of old or cheap/dollar store towels cut into strips and layered.
The end result is a lot sturdier and easier to put together, plus it tends to look more, to me, like thatch for the scales in games
AzraelThanatos i guess it's yet another alternative. I fail to imagine how towels straps can better imitate thatching than hemp twine though. Would you happen to have pictures of the result i'm curious?
Found a site that has some comparisons.
www.hourofwolves.org/?view=articles&which=thatch
The thing with it is scale, the twine is close, but it's heavily off and looks oversized to me in comparison.
AzraelThanatos interesting post!
Good idea
Way cool thank you
Thanks, hope this helped! Happy crafting !
Where do you get your peasant miniatures? They look really nice.
Christopher Murray Fenryll miniatures. It's a french group. Very fine, detailed and lifelike miniatures but casted in a very hard resin, the thinest parts are very brittle and tend to break (the scythes handles for example).
Landvaettr's Lair Thanks for the fast reply. I'll check them out.
Very good job 🤗
Où trouves - tu les figurines paysans, sur quels sites ?
Les paysans présents sur la vidéo viennent de Fenryll miniatures, c'est des français d'ailleurs si je me rappelle bien. Les miniatures sont bien castées et détaillées en revanche la résine utilisée est très dure et le manque de souplesse rend certains éléments fins très cassants, il faudra bien les vernir mais ça restera des figurines fragiles au niveau des outils notemment.
Ok, merci.
Je cherche des paysans, noble etc. ,mais je trouve pratiquement que des soldats, chevaliers.
Drink a shot every time you hear "as you can see"
...get waisted in less than 10 minutes. 😆
😮😮 🧡🧡🧡🧡
What is the name of thread
Hempstring don't rembember the brand, robably very specific to my country. I'm sure it'll work wil any kind of hempstring provided it's got enough string entwined in the same tread!
I wish I found this video three years ago.
Happy you found it interesting! cheers!
Wikinger Schiffer
Ey lowis
The video has no sound.
I've got sound alright. Not sure the video's the issue here.
yeah it does
I just tried watching one of her videos but couldn't stand her, her natural voice is fine but then she frequently offered stupid accents or voices which spoiled it for me.