8 rules for loving an ISFP | Season 27 | CS Joseph
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I'm am isfp and my biggest secret is that I'm stupid. When I tell people I'm dumb they always go "nooooo you're so smart" I know they're good friends and they probably do see my strengths, but they don't understand that I'm actually very aware of my intellectual shortcomings
Fan of isfp honesty.
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Maybe you should change your opinion of what intelligence is
@@malakashraf2801i mean words have definitions
@@kc201310 some are so broad tho
1, Do not indulge their delusion, help them dispel their own delusions.
2, You need to have the patience of a saint.
3, Always guide Ni child through its exploration.
4, Don't make them feel stupid.
5, Accept them.
6, Don't get away of their dilligence.
6, Honor their effort (why there are 2 rule sixs?? somebody please explain 😂).
7, Tell them what could happen.
8, Practice active listening.
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Bonus fact: ISFPs are amazing people folks like life would just suck without that archetype, the beauty that they bring to the world and the truth that is hidden within the beauty and their creativity that they bring in the world is just something that's absolutely necessary, and that makes Chase's life worth living.
When does the lecture start?
@@aboveallodds When the impostor is sus
I am an isfp woman, and i like constructive criticism, i don't like when someone tries to sugarcoat me, and of course i don't like rude criticism meaning insults and bad words.
@satines6045 I agree. My intj husband and friend keep it real with me. I don't tolerate put downs, but I can appreciate valid criticism. I don't take myself THAT seriously. If someone pokes fun at me I'm usually flattered by the attention, even if it's not positive. I can make jokes at my expense and I can take them too.
Although I'd have to actually 100% trust that the person is a real friend and that they are only criticizing me to my face and not behind my back. If they talk shit about their friends then I won't trust them.
I'm an INTP with an ISFP mother and I needed to hear this. Mom has been misunderstood by her parents and siblings for most of her life (and by me for most of my life). Rule #4 alone would go a long way in making her feel loved and accepted -- especially by high Ti users.
same i think all isfp Mom gone throw this
As an ISFP, I love hearing my husband opinion and thoughts. He is a brilliant, intelligent and so much fun to be around as an ENTP. Been together for 23 years, happily married. I thought this might help as a different scenario that works well together.
My wife is an ISFP. I'm an INFJ. Been together for 8 years.
Everything CSJ said is fundamentally important. Especially the Socratic method, because nothing else works. I had to learn these lessons the hard way, and I'm still working patiently to apply them. I know I'll have to, probably for the rest of my life. Thanks Chase, this video validated my own procedure.
Some additional rules, as a friendly advice to anyone interested:
9. Don't let their thirst for freedom to go overboard. They can and sometimes will abandon what is extremely valuable to them, just because they were hurt or they're bored or they're not getting any outcome from it.
10. Eventually they will gain high status, but that can lead them to become arrogant or prideful because they value reputation and status so much. Protect them from that.
11. Depression hits ISFPs hard. Help them get up on their own feet. You can openly force them in this case and make it clear to them why you're forcing them. They'll appreciate it more than you think.
are you sure shes not infp? isfp infj sounds like pure distress
@@aladdout9454 she's definitely not an INFP.
its a highly polarized experience. but love should win at the end of the day, shouldn't it?
@@rubaiathasanrifat1026 hehe yeah. Wdym by polarized?
@@aladdout9454 when it's bad, it's unbearable. when it's good, it's heavenly. something like that, I mean. 😄
ISFP here with INFJ husband. Very true. My family beat the socratic into me, so I had the advantage of being acclimated to it, haha.
I am so glad you are falling behind CSJ bc that means more content is pilling up... 2000 episodes still!? Never ending content ftw!. Take your time! We'll be here. You already know.
Rules:
15:30 Socratic method (key for a relationship with ISFP)
Rule #1: 20:00 Help them dispel their own delusions with the Socratic Method
Rule #2: 22:50 Have the patience of a saint
Rule #3: 35:35 Always guide Ni child through its exploration
Rule #4: 37:20 Don't ever make an ISFP feel stupid
Rule #5: 40:30 Tell them that you accept them
Rule #6: 43:50 Get out of the way when they are diligent / honor their effort
Rule #7: 46:43 Tell them what could happen
Rule #8: 51:37 Practice active listening / Help them see that the truth can actually be enjoyable
My ISFP partner has an ESTP friend, an INTP friend and an ENTP friend. I am an ENFP and he is being bombarded by Ti and Ne. He listens, but has a hard time applying certain things. I also have an ISFP best friend who likes high Ti users. Yes, they can be stubborn, yes they can be blind, but overall if you warn and tell the truth 'nicely', repeat and prove what you are saying will happen, they will listen.
Every type deserves our patience, it goes both ways.
This might be one of the most important videos i've watched in a long time. Me being an INTJ, I can't even tell you how many times I have made my ISFP mother cry or rage out like the HULK through the years.
I always knew my mother was extremely easily offended, but she is so much more delicate and delucional than I imagined. She really just cannot handle any criticism that she feels has a bad or evil intent. Very refreshing to learn how the Ne Trickster makes this problem of good or bad intensions so difficult.
She really just dont know what I mean or try to say alot of the time... Really horrific and sad sometimes, but we have always managed to make it work, and end it with a smile in the end. The raging war of two Wayfarers I guess.
I'm an ISFP and my daughter is an INTJ.
I was in a relationship with an INTJ and we utterly destroyed each other.
INTJs are also delicate and delusional to be honest with Ni hero Fi child
@@Holmis93 I love my intj husband 😁 I don't think I could date a feeler or an extrovert, so that narrows it down
Hey Chase! I am an ISFP and I know that I am delusional so the way I deal with it is that when I judge someone/some situation and I am extremely involved emotionally I wait. I just wait whatever it takes until everything is clarified in my head. I've learned that I have to suffer waiting with my decisions so that I don't burn additional pain to the world. Also it teaches patience and ability to handle emotions.
From my experience I know that I miss judged situations in past so now my solution is to relax and take it easy method. 😂 Tbh yeah that is the best feeling. To be relaxed and focused at the same time. No attaching with emotions = flow state.
Looking forward to 8 rules for loving an INFP.
Me toooo
Same here! Whats taking so long? Lol
Me too ! 😌✨
CS Jospeh looking like he's gonna star in a taxi driver remake
Being in a relationship with an Isfp has been the most painful experience. Im infj. I felt most of the time he was super self centered and most of his decisions was self interest based. Then the ghosting and flaking happens. People say they just don’t want to hurt your feelings, I think it’s more because they’re trying to avoid conflict and don’t want anyone to not like them. They’re not willing to hear anyone and they think everyone is incompetent except for them. Isn’t that dunning-Kruger effect in psychology? If you no longer entertain their fantasies they get bored and leave. My Isfp didn’t like to be wrong and blamed me. That’s literally gaslighting. When I need support he won’t be there but expects me to give everything in return. It truly is a lose-loss situation. Watching this video made me feel like I’m not crazy. And I truly did well for the situation I was placed in. My ex and I are still distant friends but I’d like to cut ties with him as I think he’s so toxic and I don’t see any potential in him. Im scared he’ll go downhill
infj and isfp relationship is very common
I had the same situation with 'my' ISFP in life and relate to your comment 100% lol.
@@puzzy13hacker I’m curious what a healthy ISFP would be like. So far I’ve only read and met with unhealthy ones…or is all ISFP personality just like this in general? Gosh…
@@ellien875 Nonono ISFPs can either be assholes OR LITERALLY A BALL OF JOY... If they're on the asshole side, they probably have unresolved trauma or something and justify their bad behaviors all the time with that, probably they only show those bad behaviors with you and on front of people they get into this "ball of joy" persona... they're super judgy, sensitive and mean for no reason
Healthy ISFPs are like another whole diferent thing... they try to be honest with themselves, and with you, they'll tell u their opinion about things in life... and they see beauty on the little things and don't get arrogant, if they have a bad feeling they'll not be arrogant or ignoring you all of a sudden (classic immature isfp behavior, we love that) they'll just tell u and be sincere with you...
Also unhealthy ISFPs can be competitive in NOT COMPETITIVE SIDES OF LIFE and can inhibit other people from doing their own thing, either for attention or whatever reason it is, that they dont want u to be yourself.
Healthy ISFPs accept people being themselves, and they're just chill about it
@@ellien875 I start to think every ISFP is like that in general. If you read about covert narcissism, you might even notice pattern yourself between the disorder and isfps. In my experience even healthy isfp are egocentric in nature and without good people around them when they develop they are long gone and the most toxic persons on this planet.
Isfp woman - you've described my ideal great love, thanks you. One of my greatest fear in sexual/love relationship is to not give enough love to my partner, especially if he's so exceptionnal as you describes ideal Isfps partner.
Thank you for doing what you do Chase! It may be a long journey, but we appreciate all of the care and dedication you put into making these videos. You've touch many lives including my own, so again thank you! 💕
Had to learn to listen to Ti the hard way. 😅 Thank God for the one ENTP who bothered to actually tell me the truth to my face, no matter how triggering. Gotta burn the ISFP forest for regeneration.
Haven’t watched your whole vid yet, but this part really struck me: “We can be sharp enough to sharpen them.” This is why I prefer relationships with men who are more blunt and don’t beat around the bush, because I am the exact opposite of those two things. I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with someone who was as feelings-oriented and gentle as I tend to be. I have matured enough to really listen to and value the words of those who are more heavily “thinking” (pardon my ignorance in the mechanics of MBTI). I highly value those who can criticize me - albeit in a softened manner.
MBTI is really interesting, but at the end of the day, it’s a label I believe people can inadvertently limit themselves with. It feels good to have a sense of “belonging,” but such labeling can cause people to stagnate. I like to think people can be more fluid.
Mature people know how to actively listen to others, period.
Thank you for sharing your observations; they can be incredibly insightful and help people to understand themselves better.
Yes! You followed each rule while explaining which was, as you know, highly appreciated. You described every flaw I needed to hear in order to understand my last breakup with the ENTP and have an entirely new respect for ENTPs in general.
I am an INTP mother with an ISFP mid-life son, oh wow, how on earth to get on?! About to fly to see him to try to reconcile after 7 yrs. Will be watching all the ISFP videos, thanks CSJ.
And is the relationship better
@@justoneweek6983 sadly not, the meeting went terribly badly, now completely out of touch, almost no issue we can agree on... rewatching this video to prep for a whole-family holiday soon
@@nerdhub3460 i wish you the best of luck you might also watch compatibility for Romantic relationships but I think he already said the thing. ISFPs dont want to come off as dumb and many Intp people like run that everyone else is dumb.
@@justoneweek6983 so glad I watched again, the Socratic Method is likely the only tool I can try... but hard to do it so that the ISFP won't feel interrogated or patronised
Thank you. I’m trying to get my ISFP son to improve his Ti and Ne and soften his Te (he loves the school system). So I told him that, knowledge is constantly evolving, what he learnes today isnt the same thing that his grandpa was taught, and wont be the same thing his grandchildren will be taught. I also told him that the most knowledgeable human holds a fraction of all mankinds knowledge, and mankind currently only know a fraction of all that there is to know, only god knows everything. Thats why the most knowledgeable people go from being professors to become researchers (cultivating INTP super ego) discovering new knowledge that is not yet known. So you have to be open minded (Ne) and use your own mind (Ti) in order to discover new knowledge.
Any advice on how to break their Ni loop? I learned from this video that it is necessary to be subtle when correcting them, which I sometimes lack due to directness.
Also I do agree that ESFJs enable them too much, ESFJs enable everyone too much 😀
I’ve noticed that with ISFPs, you cannot tell them they are wrong. Period. They will flake and ghost you. It’s the worst.
I've seen that with istps😭. It's like their brains are almost incapable of listening unless around "important people". Atleast it comes off like that
@@user-xk9cr3mu3k maybe both isxps
Not going to lie, as an Isfp I kind of needed to hear this since I spent some time dealing with intense insecurities and thinking people will believe I'm stupid. I really do need to focus on not taking criticism to personal and not jumping to conclusions about what other people think. I guess if you try to focus on the actual facts then you have a more stable sense of self then if you're constantly listening to that part of yourself that tells you people will think your stupid
As an ISFP, if’s a bit much to expect me to listen to you on everything. I am extremely independent and can’t imagine one voice ruling over my life that isn’t God. I am able to do self reflection when someone points out something I did wrong. If I’m looking for life advice, sure, I’ll take into consideration everything the people closest to me say. But I don’t want to hear anything about music or my instrument from someone whom has nothing to do with the music field nor have they ever played an instrument. I understand the value of confrontation and encourage it. As someone that lives in the present, I don’t want to stay angry for any length of time. If something bothers me, I will bring it up. I would want my love interest to do the same. Also, sex is a bonus, not the base of the relationship I’d want. I’m traditional. I’m only gonna marry and bed someone I see as a good husband and future father. I can recognize that it takes patience to help me make corrections and to push me to do things. I worry if I will ever find a guy that can deal with me lol. I’m mature enough to take criticism without feeling the need to ghost you or bite back. I do nag a bit to the people I care about as well. Your videos are interesting. Thanks!
A women’s relationship with God is based in n her relationship with her husband.
@@CSJoseph It’s the other way around. God comes first before spouse, before family. I expect my spouse to put God before my wants as well.
@@CSJoseph ??? What church or bib le is that from? Not sound doctrine.
INFP here, have been friends with an ISFP for almost a decade. I think my Fi hero understands her well so there's basically no conflict
You're actually spot on. I think I am more open to your critiques though because I grew up with an ENTP Mom and INTP Dad. I highly value ENTP viewpoints and NT's in general because of that (in hindsight of course) As far as ENTP compatibility, I've always felt like ENTP's are annoyed by me/ think I'm stupid although my only experience has been with my Mom. We fought a lot but also had so much fun together. She brought me out of my shell and gave me great experiences as a kid but was also very blunt to the point of making me hate her at times. She also really encouraged my artistic talents and since being away from home I have really put art on the backburner which is sad. Anyways I digress.Thank you for your honesty!!
My subconscious focused ISFP mom gave up painting 20 years ago. She hasn't painted a single thing, not even at the back of a napkin. Also, she's been shunned by her whole family. I worry a lot about her. Breaks my heart. I hope someday to see her paint again.
Gently encourage her and talk highly of how amazing her painting was and remind her of the good consequences that might happen if she takes it up again
Show her this video
Whoa... that is just so sad
Been waiting for this Chase, thanks. This being my type I can totaly see some ISFPs not getting past the fase of getting ragy and taking every critiscism personaly, It's kinda difficult getting past that, not gonna lie. Feel like after developing that we are pretty chill. Though, the way I handle both flattery and criticism now can be kinda cold, I internalize the info I'm receiving and It comes off as dismissive or as if I don't care. Y'all should listen to rule number 6, yeah I'm looking at you needy esfj. The "carrying Ni child through explorations and providing scenarios for my effort" advice blew me away, I just wouldn't ever get bored of whoever did this to me.
Brother you’re a legend! This is extremely valuable information with a great delivery. God bless you.
blows my socks off... great series. Necessary life advice. !!!!! watch it, watch it and rewatch it and consider, consider once more and reconsider until you start apprecaiting people in your life and their needs and challenges
ENTJ + ISFP is a total disaster. I cannot understand how an ISFP consistently makes disastrous life choices, develops a poor self esteem from these disastrous life choices, but simply will not.....absolutely refuses....to listen to counsel.
first rule , don't be a high Ti user.
second rule don't be a high Ti user.
third rule don't be a high Ti user.
forth rule don't be a high Ti user.
fifth rule.......don't be a high Ti user.
sixth rule don't be a high Ti user.
seventh rule dont be a fucking Ti user.
eighth rule lie all the time. and gl
Lol real shit. Hard to shallow the entitlement of FPs
we don't hate you that much, calm down, we hate other fi users more
If I send a video of one of my performances I do get annoyed if I don't get feedback
Thank you for letting me know this... I've constantly trying to make sure over and over if I'm actually an ISFP since Idk... but it was one of your article about what makes ISFP happy that confirms I am highly possible an ISFP. But then I'm still unsure sometimes seeing how I'm not a really aesthetic person even though I am trying to make me look aesthetic. So I thought I might have been an INFP because I thought I must have been an Si user. But I don't find it more relatable that I am an ISFP more than I am an INFP. I'm very grateful that I can confirm I am an ISFP, tho I just know that some time in near future I might going to reassure about it again, hahah. So all in all, thank you sir. Praying the best for you and your family, God bless you.
My mother is an ISFP and I am INFP. We buttheads almost always. 🤣 And it is even harder because she used to be a domestic helper abroad, we have very thick gap knowing each other's values. 😅 Thanks for this. At least the conflict between us might be lesser with this. Thanks a lot.
I feel like your experience with ISFPs has been with very unhealthy and toxic ISFPs and that they trigger you a lot. I recognize things though and it is very interesting to hear how other people understand ISFPs and why we are so difficult to understand for others. It is hard to listen to your videos :'), it's painful as I recognize indeed that people think I'm stupid or delusional and experience often that I'm not being taken serious. I disagree off course that I am delusional or stupid ;). When we have access to the right recources to develop healthy valuesystems, understand critical and logical thinking and engaging with mental models and do enough personal development to develop self-love and self-confidence, we can be the most amazing and wise people I think. Still off course with our own challenges. This often takes half a lifetime though... Logical thinking doesn't always convince us because also logical arguments are based on mental models that are based in value systems. So even though your logical thinking 'works', I might disagree with the underlying valuesystem that you build your mental models on. That is why you cannot convince me only with logic. But indeed relations are a challenge for us, and the tips you give are useful to better understand what I would look for in a significant other and what I need to focus on to also make it enjoyable for them :). And of course what I can give myself more to develop more self-love.
Yay!! Was waiting for this one 🙌 thank you for the great content as always!!
What a username 😱
Being one, you are right, but also in humility one honestly seeks the truth and desires the correction or redirection. A man of intelligence really does this with gentleness and draws the woman out.
Being careful is important because isfp is usually fear bound, that's the preface of their dillusions to gaurd from negative outcomes.
Stubbornness is fear based. We hate how much this limits us. We hate restrictions and the truth brings freedom. Yes, we resrict ourselves, ALL the time, feeling inadequate. And I am sacrificing female. Only time, life lessons and my faith are breaking the controlling behavior. We really want to have affection and I believe that a good man wants to make his woman genuinely better.
Lift her up with truth because truth brings that freedom. I have been crushed and had my petals ripped off. Repeatedly. But now I found a Man who guards my heart as much as possible, but some truth must be blunt. The bluntness of truth with kindness and patient timing will produce the deepest heart connection. And yes, honor our efforts to open up, we must feel valued and acknowledged.
If you don't then that is where deep offense occurs and we either withdrawal or fight. I am also keenly aware of when my man is saying things that cause my own self discovery. You guys think we think it's just a conversation, but our sensing and intellect know. Basically it's like a dim light shining on the real truth of the matter that we have repeatedly ignored, but if love is the motive, then that light continues to illuminate until we wholeheartedly honestly fully open our eyes. We are delicate flowers that long to bloom in the safe and secure place that a genuinely committed man provides. It is the same for Christ and his bride. The art of unwrapping and unfolding the true beauty of a soul redeemed. Marriage is supposed to be symbolic of such...seen in all our ugliness for the beauty that is really inside. We want to be loved. We want to be revealed. We want to be better.
Sometimes i wonder because of Fi trickster if i'm miss something because of my lack of Fi but everytime i listen to an ISFP it amazes me how y'all make zero sense. First of all there is no such things as a nice way too say the truth for 2 reasons. One , the all point of truth is that it hurt (lies doesn't hurt you is finding out the truth that does) so it like asking too find a torn who doesn't hurt you . Second point , Ti users aren't supermans, their goals isn't too care and appeal to the majority because a "nice way" of telling the truth too a ISFP is different than a nice way too tell the truth too a ENTJ or ISTJ or an ENFP but all of them are Fi users. The job of an Ti user is too live the most righteous, integral and truthful life possible too breed understanding. Fi users are the ones who seek the truth (Te) so they have too seek it regardless of how they feel and sympathize or listen too Ti users because Ti users are the ones who seek acceptance (Fe) . So it not our job too make you feel good about the truth but too care for you after you decide to listen and accept us, your job is too sympathize with us regardless of how you feel that what a good person do . Being willing too be a martyr and taking the pain for others and then spreading knowledge. So in conclusion truth isn't measured in mass appeal nor in gentleness, you just want too hear something that doesn't hurt you feeling not the truth.
What a robust reply!
Thank you. Sincerely, I don't want to hide any more behind illusions, fears or worries. Replies like this are necessary and I receive this.
You responded in truth, and there is nothing more humbling.
@@dovio832 Is this entirely accurate? What about the axis? Ti and Fe are inextricably connected. It is a Ti-Fe users job to care as much as deliver the truth. By different measures for sure, but Ti nor Fe can live in a vacuum of the other. People don't receive truth without love because Truth is love itself.
Loved it! Thank you for some very practical tips. Although the context of your lecture was a romantic relationship I was able to extrapolate out some useful ways to better support my ISFP daughter. I especially liked the idea of utilising the Socratic method.
I don’t like the tone of this video. You are taking a stance of superiority. Perhaps, you are more stubborn than logical. You are not always right Chase lol
Maybe the isfp that burned him liked pink, was smart enough to know that smoking is unhealthy.. but he didn't listen😢
I’m Infj in a relationship with an isfp which from what you say sounds like it wouldn’t work. And in some ways it doesn’t but I’m pretty sure I’m a strong ti jumper and I get what you are saying about their delusional tendencies. Looking at it I see that I show him instead of tell him where he is delusional. I show him obliquely by being what he should be and thinking in a way he should think. And with him I am infinitely patient and willing to listen because I actually truely love him and that actually seems to make a huge difference. I also show him the truth all the time and maybe he’s a bit smart cos he picks it up quick and changes. He’s literally the sweetest most beautiful awful person I’ve ever known.
How's your rel with your isfp now? I'm currently dating an isfp. As an infj, I find it very difficult to connect with him, he seems emotionally unavailable.
Same here, he is emotionally unavaible, but when it comes to touch 😉
Yup still emotionally unavailable also except touch.
ISFP married to INFJ. I may *seem* emotionally unavailable, but really, I show through action/ gifts how much I care. It is a weak area and I do try to be more verbal for his sake, haha. Tell them you think highly of them and tell them you are noticing and love what they are doing to show they care. You can emphasize when they share emotionally that you value and want more of it.
Being that as isfps, feeling is our dominant function, we certainly have emotions and we long to share them. But being that our feeling function is introverted, we won’t share them unless you ask. But ask away, and you’ll see we’re far more emotionally available than you might have thought! We just don’t want to bother you with them.
I’m an objectivist, I’m much less delusional than most people around me
Been too longggg. Thank you chase for not forgetting us
Biggest takeaway from this is that I'm delusional - thanks chase
Think about the various passions you've had: moving somewhere, having a fling with someone, partying, whatever.
Now, look at the outcomes of those experiences. Are you still in a relationship? Are you destitute? Are you happier from the partying? Whatever your answers, this is the fruit of your feelings.
Wherever your fruit was bad, then be aware that you had an active Delusion prior to the experience.
@@eminemstrash2021 what?
@@Mugzchunch feelers trying to think 🤦
Man you look cool as Hell: cigar in hand, dope hairstyle, talking about psychology.
I hate the cigar. When I saw it -my feeling was: please someone do treat that man gently, nicely, appreciatevely even if he does not want it. I do not want to see him go down slow road of destroying his sex appeal ;), (abusing his body to get comfort). But I do mean it
I prefer being sexually appealing to those within touching distance.
and one more: With such a sharp observational skills and the formidable thinking process, you need to stave off the threat of -cynicism and bitterness- by truly taking care of the heart. e.g. by Finding a way to see this drama as a mere commedy, self-volunteered by the soul for participation: to develop the most gentle and subtle of skills. Humility, appreciation, pleasure flowing from being useful (not used! just useful) and at the very end, maybe- see for yourself your true, God-given beauty.
We can start grasping the 'God in drag' trick, where the nastiest proves itself to be the most desirable. I heard: life is shaped not as much by our stupid desires; but by our most pernicious AVERSIONS/ REPULSIONS. It is a real feast to conquer the latter, to see how it is an unassailable part of your desire -and to balance things out.
@@CSJoseph INFJ got their spooning from you about their 'lusting/whoring sins' -they do it mostly as a shortcut to soothe, to gain the illusion of acceptance, I guess. They too need to ultimately learn sth about the body temple. Why we all, when in doubt, start abusing the gift of our bodies...? Aquiring illusions! of appreciation.., of calmness (when restlessness is the case). Although it is getting rid of illusions, not collecting them -which makes you ultimately free, happy, self-acceptable, and able to treat yourself with gentle wisdom. And this is why -your truthful, brutal input is sooo appreciated :)
everybody, body= temple :) skip the efficacious road ;). shortcut to Comforting yourself (but not really) - and usually it is not even a pleasure...please notice!.... just scratching an itchy place, still itches afterwards. Well, please do not be a hypocrite CS ;) Do find the long road to de-aggrevating or self-soothing :) A few trials and errors, quite a bit of time (and it may entail others, at least by learning to emulate them) -just do not over-extend above the needed !!!! Sorry for my Ti child, I guess (to me it is a novelty when I write it :), and stupidly I do listen to my child. So I think everybody will start looking for a way to obey logic -as a man's duty! My bad I guess. Since because of it I am constantly counting myself as work in progress AT BEST... do not ask for the worst. [revison 100th, sorry]
Is the dunning kruger effect more common with Te users? The thing about isfps being extremely dumb or extremely wise seems like dunning kruger effect to me.
Pride leads to ignorance. Shatter that pride and you'll have endless space to fill your mind. I think thats how high Fi works.
Started watching isfp videos because your site gave me isfp two, three times before i got infp (my time according to sakinorva)😂
and see if i can relate or "awaken/enlighten" myself
tbh, i relate to your infp videos a lot
Gosh, how on earth do people put up with us?
With my ISFP gf it was never much of an issue to get her to listen to my word - I just simply have it that if she's in my life, my word is the highest order and takes higher value than the word of everyone else.
It's funny because that was never something I needed to explicitly say either, it just happened as part of her submission to me.
A good woman that is.
Does your ISFP girlfriend want to be told the truth? Is she super sensitive ( does she whine when you accidentally insult her?
Yes. If you're only going to "bash" me and have perceived malicious intent, then why should I care? I'd rather you be sincere (*cough* ENTP) and do it because you care and don't just get something out of it (like satisfaction in me feeling hurt or only wanting to be "right") lol. I've grown out of it because life beats you really hard as an ISFP female, but having that need fulfilled for genuine, Socratic feedback is amazeballs.
Hey Cs would appreciate it if you use romantic relationship instead of sexual. And change the words when you're talking about who's ion top on in the bedroom etc. Because my kids love listening to you but I just can't let them hear some of your talks. Thanks.
Tbh. I don’t know how to do this. I will try though.
@@CSJoseph dominant in an intimate/psychical/romantic relationship would do.
Basically any words in your videos that can be spun to mean something other than sex.
thanks again.
Re: rule of "tell them what could happen." What if they are stuck in a negative belief (I think this is related to low Ni), thinking that an outcome will be absolutely horrible when it won't?
Prove it to them
@@CSJoseph As an ISFP I stand by this advice. If I'm supposed to do something I have to know why + evidence (can vary from visual - recent typed article or statistics, etc. depending on what I know will help me the most in a particular situation) that stands by the action I have to take. Otherwise if I have an action in mind that I know works because of repeated experiences that affirm it, then I'll go with that even if it takes me longer.
You're totally doing dope. Not chastising, just observing.
Could someone briefly summarise the points as I am not native and sometimes it is hard to get the points right?
Waiting for the INTP one.
Already I can tell he will be talking about the stubbornness of Ti hero and the inability of Se trickster that makes it hard to listen to others 😆
I think isfp have problems that they are never 100% sure but want to confirm it its so annoying
I feel hurt that my NTP who demands desire and good feelings from me for him also demands desire, good, feelings, good experience, even money from other people. I feel he doesn’t value me because he uses me and won’t commit to an intimate relationship with me. He won’t even accept my art. He likes artistic expression that makes him feel good or that makes money he can benefit from without allowing me to use my art to express my true feelings the way I need to in order to feel better about myself especially since he doesn’t listen to my thoughts. When he is aware of my feelings he tries to manipulate how I actually feel by thinking critically harshly punishing me for feeling a way that makes him uncomfortable regardless of intentions. He won’t leave me alone or let me go but he won’t be with me in a way that is mutually satisfying either. I feel he is emotionally abusive with me but I’m not allowed to feel hurt which causes him to feel bad about his actions. He won’t validate my judgement. He thinks critically is all he can do. He won’t feel like me. I feel like he hates me for trying to love him because he’s angry people he was loyal to loved him but hurt him and used him the way he hurts and uses other people. Why does he do this then criticize me for wanting to feel good saying we’re not good because he’s uncomfortable. I am good doesn’t mean you will always enjoy the experience we have together. I’m good when I stay with you through inevitable suffering. Actually be loyal to me so I can know what true loyalty should be like otherwise let me be free to find love without you trying to force others to hate me as revenge for not wanting to be hurt anymore. People hate me with the most contempt when the tell me I should feel different to benefit them. Respect I feel the way I feel when I want. You don’t have to like the way I feel or what I want. I have to listen to people thinking I should do like a penis in my ear forcing my hand every day. Hypocrites!!!
This seems to be useful and insightful and accurate for the most part, yet some things are not fully accurate.
For example praise , we don't really like that, unless we perceive what we did really took effort from us, we don't really like to much praise and compliments, because our Te is pessimistic, we'll try to see and understand why you said what you said, or even complain that you tell to much nice words, because we'd rather have actions.
As for taking advice from someone, that was semi accurate, depending on the context.
For example my mother was always trying to school me about health, how to eat healthy what to do, etc, etc while at the same time, she didn't do a single thing she was trying to teach me, so i told her you're smoking, you're fat and you're out of shape and you're teaching me something?Get fit first, then we might have a conversation. Sure i might have come off as rude, but it's simply what came out of my mouth, because for me, practice what you preach means a lot, so if you're giving out advice or something, you'd better be doing it, because if you're not, why would i listen to you? It's like listening homeless guy how to earn money and be a milionaire. Sure this explanation i told might lack logic, but for me it makes 0 sense to listen to someone who's all theory and no actual example.
As for delusion, i think we're aware of reality, we're just not aware of the intentions of people, it makes us delusional that all people are good, and when we catch someone lying or doing something bad, we won't be able to understand why, because we know we would never do that, so even when people would tell reasons why, we wouldn't be able to fully grasp it, as stupid as that sounds, it's the truth, lol.
Wow. You’ve just described myself 😮
I have a hockey game tomorrow. And because I think the outcome will be bad in my favour it will mean I will play bad. But if I don’t think of the outcome and just be in the moment I will do good. I hope that’s correct. Isfp male 16 years old
ISFPs are more dilusional than INFPs???
Yea, one can't see the present, and one can see it clearly and still denies it.
@@CSJoseph Oh my word, you made me laugh out loud!
You just say it like it is.
I like you.
You make it sound like some of us got the poisoned kool-aid...I think we did!
Te titles are definitely subjective.
Thanks so much for posting like everything I do know I can just revert to this video and relate to everything you said. I love you thank you
My ISFP brother is a song writer
Anyone else here have confusion on whether they are isfp or intj? Or am I just delusional lol
Look for if your more scared of failure or being abandoned or if your more scared of being labeled wrongly (like being called guilty even if you did nothing ) or not being listen too like saying your opinion doesn't matters or we don't care about you opinion. If this is the failure/ abandoned the worst of your fears then INTJ if it not than ISFP
@@dovio832 thanks, based on that I’m leaning towards intj, but I do hate not being listened to as well. Gonna do more research
I thought I was an INTJ for about a year before I decided ISFP better suits me. Idk about you, but the way INTJs' Fi is spoken about really threw me off. People say it's in the background pulling the strings of how an INTJ lives, and for a long time I felt like that described me. I finally realized that my Fi is at the core of my being, but that doesn't mean I can't still use Ni. Shortly thereafter, I met my boyfriend who is an INTJ and the difference is clear as day to me now. We have a lot of similarities in how we navigate, but his Fi is much deeper beneath the surface and I need reminding that it's even there sometimes. I never felt like I had particularly strong Se until I saw how shitty his Se is. I also put in a lot more effort to be nice to people. Alsoooo I recognized that I was a much more aggressive Te user during hard times in my life, suggesting high Te being part of my shadow.
ISFP and INTJ have the same functions, don’t forget that
@@CSJoseph pls make a video analising the difference between them
23:44 which is why my ISFJ father is perfect for my ISFP mother 😂😅
Excellent video
Were you trying to change the ISFP?
54 minute video calling a whole personality type “delusional” because a few of them didn’t value your opinion or seek out your advice (I can see why😅)
Thank you chase
Do ENFP and mature ISFP typically date long term?
i am an INFP and holy... i have a hard time with them indeed especially on the meaning of things and words ; as My Ne and their Se is so opposite
53:03 wholeheartedly agree
Im ISFP . And that was brutal to hear but . Good to understand.
You dudes are awsome . I had an entp wrkn for me and i trusted that dude with everything i had like hes mu brother . I thought he was my best mate but i was living in a delusion. Cause years later my mrs told me he was trying to back door me . But i dont understand why i still love him as my brother.
I think its because we had so much fun delusional fun things that weren’t sustainable but he had my back and i created our delusions and we indulged in them together .and he didnt care maybe cause hes a p aswell . And my enfj mrs was keeping him interested
But in the i won . Cause it was like sport for my mrs even though everyone saw his intentions but me . For years . But i got my moneys worth out him and had fun . So in the end . Who used who . ? I had fun .
You know you're screwed up or what I like to call lethal in a flighty sense if someone needs to use a certain scientific method just to be with you. Though I know an ENTJ and over time of that person being correct and unknowingly teaching me things I usually listen to them now. Also a point I'd like to bring up about external judgements, remember that the ISFP struggles to communicate properly sometimes and is taking and using advise they shouldn't because the person didn't get the full or exact story.
can an ENTP end up gas lighting their ISFP?
happy 🌞
that your manipulatin tools didn't and won't work out for you...
you might consider divorce from your religion, if you looking for the kingchamber, find the seat in your heart, first !
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Looking for INFP one, but we're usually always last if not left out lol
I go top left to bottom right on the type grid and no season has ever skipped INFP I promise.
Would explain istp if their is overlap
Machine Gun Kelly is a good example of an ISFP who's "delusions" as you say, make him such a great artist. But his Super Ego has taken over to the point that he's powerful in his own self destruction. Literally one of his albums is called "Tickets to my downfall". What a sick irony that is. It's like he's saying, I know I'm selling my soul, where do I sign?
He's an ENTP
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@@CSJoseph No way he's an ENTP. I vehemently disagree. My discernment is telling me he is ISFP 100%. I've listened to most of his music, and it's so Fi heavy it's stupid. You see his NI child run rampant all the time. His Se parent allows him to be an amazing performer. You think he could do all that top tier music with SE demon? No brother, he is as ENTP as he is a watermelon. But, I respect your opinion so I'll think about it.
Then perhaps you ur discernment is greater than mine…
@@sethmarchese397 a lot of people think MGK is an Se user because of his music and how he dresses etc and recently he's become pretry emo like ISFPs lol. But i think he is an entp, here's why: he seems a starter type by the type grid, also high Ti, (he's pretty blunt and honest in interviews especially old ones) and doesnt seem to care much what people think at all. So only leaves entp type grid wise. His new music is very feeling based but i think its extroverted feeling he's just putting it all out there in simple terms. Older rap more Ti. His dress sense in my opinion is appalling lol, Se users may dress 'out there' as he does but they pull it off better. I also think he's ISFJ focused so I can see how that can be mistaken for ISFP too
@@bobbyjean1581 Thanks for your opinion. I've watched about 6 different interviews and really examined them today. My assessment when I made my comment was based off his music. So I used some of his recent interviews to really re-psychoanalyze his personality type. So the Ti bluntness you say you see I get. But... i believe that's his Super Ego. You do hear him say "I think" and what others want, but it seems it's coming from a dark place (hence super ego). On this one interview with Drew berry, he says he feels that he is possessed and he needs an exorcism (Super Ego). Two separate times during the interview he mentions he is very worried what his publicist "thinks" (TE inferior) about what he's saying during the interview. He always mentions his problem with authority. Which I can really relate with being an INFP, which we have the same Fi-Te slots and the same FE-Ti slots (I"m also Shadow focused INFP, Super ego focused when I was in my late teens). When I was young my Fi hero would throw the ball to my Ti Demon when my Te inferior was insecure or was perceived to be under attack. I see many parallels between him and myself when I was younger, unhinged and out of control in ways. Also, in almost all of his interviews he comes off as an introvert in his mannerisms. Also in one of his songs he says "he feels too much" (Fi). His feelings can be quite deep and he is constantly bringing attention to his feelings, which doesn't sound like Fi trickster at all. He his a chick magnet, I'm sorry to say but ENTP's are not known to be good with the ladies, ISFPS are, especially super ego ISFP (Bad boy). This is a long message but I wanted to give proper evidence. Bare in mind my discernment is the main compass for my opinion, my TI angel is being overclocked trying to reverse engineer what my FI and NE are picking up.
Who smokes a cigar while walking outside? You smoke it with whiskey while sitting on a leather couch. On a serious note, I'm curious what delusions are you talking about? Or what makes you an authority in the first place of someone else's reality?
I smoke them there too.
Delusions of a flat earther?
I know quite a bit about cognitive functions thanks to you and I listen to you and believe what you say even if you aren't accredited because I see how well you break down cognitive functions and you sound very intelligent. Am I really an ISFP?
I have had visions in March 2001 about future events like a plane crashing into a building and having visions of a woman my last boyfriend cheated on me with having a son which she did six years later. Wouldn't that be more of an INFP thing to be able to do due to extraverted intuition parent?
In my shadow, I am direct and I have paranoia about being cheated on at that moment or in the future based on how I intererpret what is being said to me or what I observe like an ENFJ shadow would.
In my demon, I can become very reactive. I will want to break down my boyfriend's door if I believe he is cheating on me like an ISTP demon would.
CS Joseph has stated in an ISFP video that isfps often claim to have premonitions, and your comments themselves seem extremely informative and fi hero like. So for what little my opinion is worth, I’d say you are for sure isfp.
Sounds Ne heavy, not sure if it's a critic or parent but with the context you provided I have to go with Ne parent and I think you're an infp.
Great lecture!
ISFP dead horse is underkilled. Your space here and your glasses Mr. CSJ rightly so and value highly your body of work, however this episode lacks the depth and breath of others had (Kudos). Double ignorance is fine, but the rest is just fuming snowlakes how hard to get. I think the Fi trickster sh*** itself from Fi hero as it can expose it big time and Si inferior gets crazy envy detto on Se parent being subtle and eloquent. ISFPs are blind spots even the praise was fabricated, ENTPs just hate and envy them for all what they are. Stop entps hypocrisy.
I like ISFPs I think they are cute but tbh from the first 10 minutes of this video it seems that ISTPs are a less pain to deal with than all of this
That's contextual based on your type among other things, all types have their good and bad points.
I’m an ISFP but sometimes I’m ISTP. Loved this video. Listened to it entirely.
Some gorgeous isfp did not give this guy the time of day.. lol! And i have no idea why they wouldn't listen to his majesty😂😂😂
Because I am too scary… 😏
@@CSJosephNo, not scary.. maybe I got a wrong first impression
beautiful eyelash. mercy Allah mercy
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being a decent looking intp and having knowledge of your videos i feel i could manipulate isfp girls into my grasp but it would be sinful and unhealthy
they are so adorable though so i enjoy them from a controlled and melancholic distance, like a deranged furry would to a sexy cat
yeah like kanye west and pete davidson were able to manipulate kim kardashian,,, the thing with Te users is you never know if what youre thinking is your own thoughts or what they want you to think
@@utena8518 that’s fucked up and i never thought about te users like that
Well, this video sure makes me not want to ever be in a relationship with an ISFP. You're basically saying that I have to sacrifice my true self and put so much effort and patience and completely burden myself through it all for what...? So they don't get offended...? Why would I care about not offending them though? Because they definitely don't seem like good people anyway based on all your videos about them (superiority complex, only cares about looking good rather than being good, status and money hungry, puts their reputation above others, greedy, sacrificing others so they benefit) like your wayfarer lecture really just makes them out to be these really awful shallow toxic people, so there's no point in wasting your efforts on them as it won't do anything good clearly. Like your videos make them sound like the type of people who'd rob a homeless child just for their selfish gain, there's nothing delicate about them. Also how come you said ISFPs delude themselves because reality sucks? That seems really contradicting because aren't ISFPs the ones who are all about the shallow things in reality like money and status? It definitely sounds more like they're part of reality sucking rather than against it. They only delude themselves so they don't feel offended.
Offend them if need be
In sorry that you get this understanding of ISFPs. I believe that this understanding of ISFPs is based on a certain group of ISFPs and not all of this applies to all of us. We like beauty and we want to feel good about ourselves. And working on our goals and getting recognized for that makes us feel good. But then it all depends on individual ispfs what it is they find beautiful and what they want to achieve and how they go about it. Personally, I'm all about nature, human rights, deep democracy, giving space for different opinions and most importantly peace. I would never want to make money or get status on the backs of others. Relationships can be challenging as we can be very focused on our goals. We need to learn to put our relationships as a goal too and plan enough time for that as well. In our western society, making decisions based on values instead of only logic is frowned upon. Many of the values that our society is build upon are not healthy values and many of the things we make and do in our societies are not beautiful and "good". Some isfps take over those "shallow" societal values as making money on the back of others. Other have their own values but struggle making a life in this society. This can be challenging and painful for ISFPs and we can get a lot of criticism or being dismissed as being stupid. That makes us focus on making our own life nice, to not be constantly hurt and exhausted by all the pressures and pain of the world.
And please don't sacrifice yourself. We value honesty and authenticity a lot. If we have built up a lot of trauma it does hurt and that is something we need to learn and work through. If you don't want to support us in that healing that we need to work through, we are not a good match at that moment. Once we work through our trauma and develop self love and self confidence, we very much appreciate honesty and confrontation as long as it is brought in a respectful way. Which I would say should be the case in a healthy relationship.
@@maartjezaal9696 Yet Fe users don't go out of their way to hurt others for their profit and gain at the backs of others regardless of how painful reality may be for them because they actually feel guilt and remourse and compassion... They're not the ones trying to look good instead of being good cuz they seek to be authentic... It is specifically a group for ISFPs or even other Fi users. Regardless if it doesn't apply to every individual Fi user in the world at that moment, that's just because they weren't given the opportunity to commit those actions such as exploiting others for personal gain, and all sorts of evil acts.
Are you demonizing your own quadra?
@@user-uq9oe7sc5m Demonizing? Like what I'm saying about them isn't true? Also, not my quadra.