Divorce is not an easy option for every one. She has no idea how it feels when you get beaten everyday. When the emotional attachment is one-sided, how difficult it is to walk out.
That's the problem with you people you don't listen.. she said that if there is Violence..Yes. and then too if there is a possibility to heal then she said no, but even after that then Yes.. Just don't speak non sense. Listen whole..
How do you define violence? How do you define abuse? There is emotional, physical, mental, financial? What comes under "adjustment" and what is actual violence or abuse? A life time of conditioning cannot be undone in a couple of "therapy" sessions! Especially if no one is willing to acknowledge any wrongdoing.
violence means physical touch .. and upto which levlel we have to tolerate is when the fight is not of ego the id in todays couple are very high becuse they gey married because of class .money decide krta hai ab jb bhi money dek ke rishta choose hoga tb yr rate jdha ayega love marrige ya knowing other patner well wale case me km kyo ki 1 sal to insaan ke plus minus dekhne me lg jata hai jo ki love marrieage ya friend maarige me ye phele se pata hota hai
Marriage has to come to an end. People have to remain as happy singles or opt for livein relationship and childfree by choice. Marriage is an imprisonment
Yes today marriage is based on external appearance, career , wealth, status etc which are temporary. If someone chooses his or her spouse based on the soul connection may be it will be easier to adjust to eachother's sanskara.
@@aparnakumar3000 looks like Shivani has no idea about evil effects of families. Family is the root cause of all neurosis. All stress, psychosomatic disorders, crimes, greed n over ambitions, corruptions are because of family system. Marriage is ugly
I cannot fight against this ideology because so many people and leaders are supporting divorce. Let me ask a question, Will you divorce your Child for the same reason? If not why? If you can accept any behaviour of your child then why you can't accept your partner as well? If there is physical abuse, isolate him/her like we isolated corona patients. But, stay some where else safe and pray for the healthy attitude of your partner. If you choose new partner, still you can pray sincerly for the recovery of old partner. ie, you can add one more partner but don't divorce the current partner from your heart. Include even more partners, strive to offer your divine nature to them ... Think your partner as equally your child ... Anyhow, Il strive to protect my children from this divorce ideology. At the same time il teach my Children to how they can survive wisely & live better with any kind of partner.
No divorce is not an easy option in Indian society. You may want it but the husband could be abusive who will murder you for getting divorce or make ur life hell after divorce by torturing you. So many people cannot take divorce due to fear. I wish there was a law to take divorce very easily and fast and actions to be taken against person refusing to give divorce or torturing person who wants to take it. Having freedom for yourself is never a bad thing. I wish divorces become an easy option like you say which is not true at the moment.
This was the most nonsensical thing I heard today. 1. Divorce is NOT socially accepted. Parents don't support it, society does not support it and a couple is forced to stay in that relationship when they don't want to. 2. Divorce is not an easy way out. 3. Define violence and adjustment. Is only physical violence termed as violence? What about mental and emotional violence? BK anyway says someone is hurting you let them hurt it is your fault for getting hurt. This is like validating emotional abuse saying it is the fault of the victim for getting abused.
Marriage was license to have sex and have children. Now people have sex without marriage. Adultery is no more a crime. Treating married man as criminal is the norm based on whatever allegations women levels against the men. Does marriage has any relevance? Is it not a scam to impose life time of alimony on men for 1 years marriage. Which company or government pays a life time of pension for 1 year work ? Why men are made to do that to unfaithful wifes.
Alimony is a one time payment. Stop crying without understanding the word. Secondly 1 year or not, you wasted, time, emotions and money of the girl and her parents by marrying for a year. You decline her status as a divorcee even if it's only a year. She would face issues in second marriage if she decides to go for it. If you married someone then better is to try to come to an agreement, but men are stubborn they want to physically stay with parents at the same home even at the cost of breaking up the marriage. You all want control of the woman, so you don't marry someone with same or more salary and fall into alimony categories. Your income and liabilities woman's income and liabilities is taken into consideration for any kind of alimony. Look at your own fault too, instead of crying in every forum without proper knowledge of the term alimony.
@@meghasanyal4861 You are absolutely right! Laws were made to protect Women against these issues, but Nowadays these Laws are misused for punishing Men or to be a Businesswomen. Nowadays these Laws are seen as Cruelty to Innocent Men. Alimony should be given only in real cases where Wife is being tortured.
We are moving from a collectivist and family/community based society to an individualist society, so this is bound to happen. The question is whether we can course correct when we see massive consequences of family breakdown (which western societies are already facing). I think course correction will be very difficult.
You shouldn't be so stubborn that the other gender doesn't have any remaining way. Course correction is only needed in men. Women are not ready to be subdued because men are stubborn.
What about the situations where women thought of adjusting and stayed and ended up dead due to voilent partner, dowry demands or extra marital affairs?? Its better to divorce then getting killed
Sister Shivani, I had approached local Brahma Kumaris asking for support on my separation and divorce. My father in law has been practicing Brahmakumari for 15 years so asked the centre's he visits in Thane for support. Unfortunately inspite of separation for 8 years now my wife refuses for a peaceful divorce. Further for last 4 years my son has been alienated from me with false allegations of sexual molestation. The Bombay high Court has also advised for peaceful settlement in interest of child. If you can intervene and speak to the family it would be great both for my son and for me.
Most men do not want to marry as more women are independent and available. Most marriaged men can see this happening and they want to come out of marriage. Feminism actually liberated men.
@@meghasanyal4861 Arre! Bad/ Playboys are having 10 Girlfriends at a Time. Who are those Women if they are not available for uncommitted relationships?
Easy? Where are you living? When a marriage fails, it's terrible whether you live together or separate. It's a bad decision any way then. Stop commenting like some judge. It's so personal of a choice / compulsion.
@@RashmiiRaghav hahahahha and she says she lives nicely in celebacy for 28 years like friends and talks to her husband in same house but not touch him hahahah
Marriage itself is a risky affair for both gender. Very few makes it till the end without pretension with loving glitter in thier eyes. Those people are ,in general are loving towards all, not just thier spouses or childrer, not into showcasing how loving they are.
These Hindu organisations should work for the unity of families and the Hindus ! Joint family system was a good for the unity of family and existence of the Hindu culture !
Looking at the legal law, only foolish idealistic women will.stay married and serve her husband till death. The system rewards women for breaking the contract of marriage with huge monetary rewards and total freedom thereafter. So western law, creates western chaos. Broken families is the future of India. Marriage is a punishable offense for men. Adultery is not punishable. This is modern degenerate India.
Please think how to build a joint family system where you can give equal rights to girls and their parents ! No more second-class citizenship for women .
@@skengene Sorry. Marriage is outdated, families are the root cause of neurosis. Read Osho. Shivani is a good speaker but not enlightened. Families strengthens I, ME and MINE. Spiritual growth is faster if one is alone or in livein relationship.
@prem3992 live in or single life suits enlightened people like osho who are 0.1% of population. If u think yourself as osho, you will end up lonely , begging on streets after u become old.
Dude, if the relationship is toxic, get out of it, don't listen to stupid ladies like these who has never been in a real marriage..it's not your problem to fix people who are violent or abusive.. abuse only gets worse
You have to experience abuse and violence before speaking about it. There is a lot of trauma going through divorcé. Speaking about is easy. Doing is hard.
BK बोले तो भिक मांगने की पुरी गॅरांटी.....( in future life) या तो अपना कमाया धन दान करो ...नही तो मधुबन और सेंटर पर सेवा के नाम पर गुलाम बनके सेवा करो..... जिंदगीभर.....
Wiyh respect mam give good option advice ......but If you can see future other person with experience ......and law in india is not favor of male so if male want to survive good life try to avoid marrage. Indian law is not work in any condtion with male........just chek your self and tack decision
This bramha kumaris ask couples coming to them to stay as brothers and sisters in life.phaltu Gyan hae.religious institutions have made mans life miserable.
Whatever they get in mind simply they will give answer divorce .. divorce is not the option for all the cases.. some cases will be different minor issues .. that minor issues makes complicated by third parties it could be Court , relatives or friends..
We are not the judge of another's action. Marriage is an intimate relatioship between two concerned in a relationship. if it doesn't work it is better to break and not be truthful to atma to applease societial norms. Human life is to make mistakes and grow from it. Not attached to fruit of action or inaction. Follow heart and do karma. Many fall into marriage when they themselves don't know what they what in a spouse. Can you imagne having a sexual relationship with a spouse with whom one don't love anymore. Is it a soulful connection, in other words spritual union. One needs to know when one is not happy with their spouse they will not keep the spouse happy too. As well the negative emotions affects adversly child in its own relationships too.
Well, they need to learn alot about psychology... Specially narcissistic personality disorders, psychopaths. They ruin lives if they are family members ...parents, spouse, in-laws. Spirituality starts with understanding your own body , mind n soul 🤗 and healing those parts at core level first.
If u love someone u find reason to stay together by looking at the brighter side of the spectrum and try to confront the darker side ..but when ur are so fragile and over sensitive u find reasons to divorce rather than trying to fix the things..such people who fall into category will always never find themselves in a solace ..even with next partner they start finding same issues that is common trait now ..because so much of entitlement will never find peace with any person and can never be in a relationship
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Divorce is not an easy option for every one. She has no idea how it feels when you get beaten everyday. When the emotional attachment is one-sided, how difficult it is to walk out.
She said in case of violence, you should separate out
That's the problem with you people you don't listen.. she said that if there is Violence..Yes. and then too if there is a possibility to heal then she said no, but even after that then Yes.. Just don't speak non sense. Listen whole..
How do you define violence? How do you define abuse? There is emotional, physical, mental, financial? What comes under "adjustment" and what is actual violence or abuse? A life time of conditioning cannot be undone in a couple of "therapy" sessions! Especially if no one is willing to acknowledge any wrongdoing.
violence means physical touch .. and upto which levlel we have to tolerate is when the fight is not of ego the id in todays couple are very high becuse they gey married because of class .money decide krta hai ab jb bhi money dek ke rishta choose hoga tb yr rate jdha ayega love marrige ya knowing other patner well wale case me km kyo ki 1 sal to insaan ke plus minus dekhne me lg jata hai jo ki love marrieage ya friend maarige me ye phele se pata hota hai
Marriage has to come to an end.
People have to remain as happy singles or opt for livein relationship and childfree by choice.
Marriage is an imprisonment
Yes today marriage is based on external appearance, career , wealth, status etc which are temporary. If someone chooses his or her spouse based on the soul connection may be it will be easier to adjust to eachother's sanskara.
Even now a days parents are choosing the partner for their son or daughter based on these outer things
@@aparnakumar3000 looks like Shivani has no idea about evil effects of families. Family is the root cause of all neurosis. All stress, psychosomatic disorders, crimes, greed n over ambitions, corruptions are because of family system. Marriage is ugly
Divorce/ Break up should be the option,if the other person disturbs your self respect
I cannot fight against this ideology because so many people and leaders are supporting divorce. Let me ask a question, Will you divorce your Child for the same reason? If not why? If you can accept any behaviour of your child then why you can't accept your partner as well?
If there is physical abuse, isolate him/her like we isolated corona patients. But, stay some where else safe and pray for the healthy attitude of your partner.
If you choose new partner, still you can pray sincerly for the recovery of old partner. ie, you can add one more partner but don't divorce the current partner from your heart. Include even more partners, strive to offer your divine nature to them ...
Think your partner as equally your child ...
Anyhow, Il strive to protect my children from this divorce ideology. At the same time il teach my Children to how they can survive wisely & live better with any kind of partner.
No divorce is not an easy option in Indian society. You may want it but the husband could be abusive who will murder you for getting divorce or make ur life hell after divorce by torturing you. So many people cannot take divorce due to fear. I wish there was a law to take divorce very easily and fast and actions to be taken against person refusing to give divorce or torturing person who wants to take it. Having freedom for yourself is never a bad thing. I wish divorces become an easy option like you say which is not true at the moment.
This was the most nonsensical thing I heard today.
1. Divorce is NOT socially accepted. Parents don't support it, society does not support it and a couple is forced to stay in that relationship when they don't want to.
2. Divorce is not an easy way out.
3. Define violence and adjustment. Is only physical violence termed as violence? What about mental and emotional violence? BK anyway says someone is hurting you let them hurt it is your fault for getting hurt. This is like validating emotional abuse saying it is the fault of the victim for getting abused.
Abuse? And how di you define abuse? Divorce koi kushi se nahi Karta...jab nahi ho pata tab hi lete hain abd it's not easy decision
What's wrong in choosing easy option?
Marriage was license to have sex and have children.
Now people have sex without marriage. Adultery is no more a crime.
Treating married man as criminal is the norm based on whatever allegations women levels against the men.
Does marriage has any relevance?
Is it not a scam to impose life time of alimony on men for 1 years marriage.
Which company or government pays a life time of pension for 1 year work ?
Why men are made to do that to unfaithful wifes.
Happens only in hindu society
Alimony is a one time payment. Stop crying without understanding the word. Secondly 1 year or not, you wasted, time, emotions and money of the girl and her parents by marrying for a year. You decline her status as a divorcee even if it's only a year. She would face issues in second marriage if she decides to go for it.
If you married someone then better is to try to come to an agreement, but men are stubborn they want to physically stay with parents at the same home even at the cost of breaking up the marriage.
You all want control of the woman, so you don't marry someone with same or more salary and fall into alimony categories.
Your income and liabilities woman's income and liabilities is taken into consideration for any kind of alimony.
Look at your own fault too, instead of crying in every forum without proper knowledge of the term alimony.
@@meghasanyal4861 You are absolutely right! Laws were made to protect Women against these issues, but Nowadays these Laws are misused for punishing Men or to be a Businesswomen. Nowadays these Laws are seen as Cruelty to Innocent Men. Alimony should be given only in real cases where Wife is being tortured.
We are moving from a collectivist and family/community based society to an individualist society, so this is bound to happen. The question is whether we can course correct when we see massive consequences of family breakdown (which western societies are already facing). I think course correction will be very difficult.
You shouldn't be so stubborn that the other gender doesn't have any remaining way.
Course correction is only needed in men. Women are not ready to be subdued because men are stubborn.
What a nice meaningful talk, never hear something so good recently 👍😍
What kind of logic is it.. that social stigma should be motivation for couples to remain together? No wonder societal norms are becoming outdated.
Very nice conversation
What about the situations where women thought of adjusting and stayed and ended up dead due to voilent partner, dowry demands or extra marital affairs?? Its better to divorce then getting killed
Exactly. Trying to change the other can be dangerous
Dead is going too far my friend
Sister Shivani, I had approached local Brahma Kumaris asking for support on my separation and divorce. My father in law has been practicing Brahmakumari for 15 years so asked the centre's he visits in Thane for support. Unfortunately inspite of separation for 8 years now my wife refuses for a peaceful divorce. Further for last 4 years my son has been alienated from me with false allegations of sexual molestation. The Bombay high Court has also advised for peaceful settlement in interest of child. If you can intervene and speak to the family it would be great both for my son and for me.
How can they (family) not change after recent suicide of the man in similar situation
Most men do not want to marry as more women are independent and available. Most marriaged men can see this happening and they want to come out of marriage. Feminism actually liberated men.
Women may be independent but not available for uncommitted relationships. Wtf!
@@meghasanyal4861 Arre! Bad/ Playboys are having 10 Girlfriends at a Time. Who are those Women if they are not available for uncommitted relationships?
Easy? Where are you living? When a marriage fails, it's terrible whether you live together or separate. It's a bad decision any way then. Stop commenting like some judge. It's so personal of a choice / compulsion.
She herself is a divorcee.
@@RashmiiRaghav hahahahha and she says she lives nicely in celebacy for 28 years like friends and talks to her husband in same house but not touch him hahahah
Yeah she is not a divorcee@liblib1815
She has been separated and sitting outside and advicing is great irony .
Haha that's how people are.... Until ine faces the situation they don't really know
If she is not married, she has no say in what is easy or what is not...
Marriage itself is a risky affair for both gender. Very few makes it till the end without pretension with loving glitter in thier eyes. Those people are ,in general are loving towards all, not just thier spouses or childrer, not into showcasing how loving they are.
We’ve moved forward as there is more social acceptance in divorce. It can be torture for those who are living a life of hell in marriage.
These Hindu organisations should work for the unity of families and the Hindus ! Joint family system was a good for the unity of family and existence of the Hindu culture !
Looking at the legal law, only foolish idealistic women will.stay married and serve her husband till death.
The system rewards women for breaking the contract of marriage with huge monetary rewards and total freedom thereafter.
So western law, creates western chaos. Broken families is the future of India.
Marriage is a punishable offense for men. Adultery is not punishable.
This is modern degenerate India.
Please think how to build a joint family system where you can give equal rights to girls and their parents ! No more second-class citizenship for women .
Wonderful
She makes absolute sense. Why is she not on more podcasts ?
@@skengene Sorry. Marriage is outdated, families are the root cause of neurosis. Read Osho. Shivani is a good speaker but not enlightened. Families strengthens I, ME and MINE. Spiritual growth is faster if one is alone or in livein relationship.
@prem3992 live in or single life suits enlightened people like osho who are 0.1% of population. If u think yourself as osho, you will end up lonely , begging on streets after u become old.
Dude, if the relationship is toxic, get out of it, don't listen to stupid ladies like these who has never been in a real marriage..it's not your problem to fix people who are violent or abusive.. abuse only gets worse
You have to experience abuse and violence before speaking about it. There is a lot of trauma going through divorcé. Speaking about is easy. Doing is hard.
Mera naam back me display ho raha hai
BK बोले तो भिक मांगने की पुरी गॅरांटी.....( in future life) या तो अपना कमाया धन दान करो ...नही तो मधुबन और सेंटर पर सेवा के नाम पर गुलाम बनके सेवा करो..... जिंदगीभर.....
Wiyh respect mam give good option advice ......but If you can see future other person with experience ......and law in india is not favor of male so if male want to survive good life try to avoid marrage.
Indian law is not work in any condtion with male........just chek your self and tack decision
This bramha kumaris ask couples coming to them to stay as brothers and sisters in life.phaltu Gyan hae.religious institutions have made mans life miserable.
Whatever they get in mind simply they will give answer divorce .. divorce is not the option for all the cases.. some cases will be different minor issues .. that minor issues makes complicated by third parties it could be Court , relatives or friends..
We are not the judge of another's action. Marriage is an intimate relatioship between two concerned in a relationship. if it doesn't work it is better to break and not be truthful to atma to applease societial norms. Human life is to make mistakes and grow from it. Not attached to fruit of action or inaction. Follow heart and do karma. Many fall into marriage when they themselves don't know what they what in a spouse. Can you imagne having a sexual relationship with a spouse with whom one don't love anymore. Is it a soulful connection, in other words spritual union.
One needs to know when one is not happy with their spouse they will not keep the spouse happy too. As well the negative emotions affects adversly child in its own relationships too.
Does she have any idea on what emotional abuse is??? Its beyond any mere adjustment that people so generalize about
Well, they need to learn alot about psychology... Specially narcissistic personality disorders, psychopaths. They ruin lives if they are family members ...parents, spouse, in-laws.
Spirituality starts with understanding your own body , mind n soul 🤗 and healing those parts at core level first.
👍🌷🙏
If it goes to mental breakdown then?
She herself is a divorcee
@RashmiiRaghav i dont think so. I think they live like friends and not touch each other
Divorce has to be made easier. If love n harmony is there, why there has to be marriage. Marriage is dead outdated intstitute.
By 2050 there will be no marriages. People are evolving rapidly.
Why she is a batchelor ?
she is not bachelor she is married
And she Stays with her's husband
She is married from last 27 years and living a celebacy life with her husband from day 1 of her marriage. Search about it
She is married and stays with her husband
This anchor should define first what is violence. Using the highest degree thing in a very casual way.
Logic less
Mam is herself divorcee. Giving Gyan is very easy. Dual Life.
She is married @ bk shivani
@atharvamore2280 yes she left her husband
She is happily married
@YR523 no as per info she left her husband
@RashmiiRaghav get yr facts clear
If u love someone u find reason to stay together by looking at the brighter side of the spectrum and try to confront the darker side ..but when ur are so fragile and over sensitive u find reasons to divorce rather than trying to fix the things..such people who fall into category will always never find themselves in a solace ..even with next partner they start finding same issues that is common trait now ..because so much of entitlement will never find peace with any person and can never be in a relationship