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Yeah I'm not sure about that tbh. Gonna go against the crowd here and say I think it's either your mistake Rory, or a racing incident at best. The golden rule of re-joining is to cede the racing line above all else, so that other drivers aren't punished by your mistake.
Those corners are consecutive and he is already committing to the racing line through that sequence whilst you were still on the grass. Letting off or going wide to accommodate your re-join will compromise his speed for the next 20 seconds.
If your re-join wasn't on the racing line and he hit you then 100% it's his mistake. But you lost a lot of acceleration by being on the grass for 3 seconds, and 2 second later you are on the apex of the next corner, going 15mph slower than him, and compromising his pace as a result.
Then out of principle he cuts his nose off to spite his face. After that, he turned into a total douchebag (probably because he thinks you should have let him pass) and there's no defending him.
Agree 100% with entire comment
Rory rejoined at 7:42, the other guy meets(bumps into) Rory at 7:46... yes Rory was a little slower than the other guy but the other guy i suppose he also has eyeballs and a brain to understand what he was going for was not going to happen. Also "The golden rule of re-joining is to cede the racing line above all else, so that other drivers aren't punished by your mistake." this is so friggin stupid imo, so defending should not be a thing then by that logic makes no sense!, ofc racing is not a demolition race but hey i slow down by a mistake or whatever let me extend you the red carpet so you can pass me and while at it all the guys behind you also have a free pass go ahead enjoy yourself i will just park here and take a coffee... how friggin ridiculous is that, trying to justify the lack of ability of that retard italian to read the race.... going on the outside? no... slowing down? no... let me just go bump the crap out of the guy in front because he didnt gave me the red carpet... amazing logic 100/100! like the poor arse didnt had any time to adapt at all right?! 🤣🤣 no wonder F1 is into the sh*thole that is now as well.
I see drivers like this guy every single day. I think it's worthless. If someone can't be civil they just need to leave it alone
Yep especially when Rory was having his own moment it’s not like any of this is intentional on his end
Lol
Welcome to my world Rory.this is exactly why i struggle to get my DR/SR up .best i've got up to so far is B / S then i have a few races with idiots in that aint there to race just smash people off the track and it drops right down again.i think what the game needs is people being ghosted when they deliberately turn into you or try to ram you..
Yeah I went from B back to D after a few hrs of racing and getting bumper carred off the track in every race. I feel your pain!!
Should be kicked from the race accident or not
Im in the same boat. I'm always in the top 5 at least for quali lap then first or second corner of race get bounced off track get demoted to rank C then win every race by at least 10 seconds
The first thing I heard in my mind was "how's your re-join sir" but yeah his retaliation was over the top and slightly comical.
rejoin was fine, driver behind has to anticipate the slow car at the apex. Rory was ahead and therefore has priority. Just because someone goes off the track doesnt mean the cars on track can expect them to have to give way. there has to be give and take in these situations.
Overkill
My rejoin wasn't the best, agreed. Difficult part of the track to rejoin safely though, very tight and fast!
it's ALWAYS the overtaking cars RESPONSIBILITY to OVERTAKE the slower car SAFELY.
@@Jwats96 He had already rejoined, End of
Your re-join wasn't as bad as I thought it would be from his point of view. He left no space. I'd have given you a wide berth. The re-join could have been been better, but not 100% your fault. What happened after was a bit comical, what a loser.
Yep instead of going around that rammer try’s to go straight through Rory of course a crash is going to happen smh I hate these aggressive drivers that have no respect at all
If this was real life they would be KILLING people
Ok little dark
I'm not so sure. In his view, it would look to someone who's unaware of who Rory is like after the initial rejoin There was a take out attempt that turned himself
I appreciate you posting real events that happen on GT7, even your mishaps!! This is what really goes on and these racers need to be reported or penalized!!
Kimi velocini's step brother lmao
It’s actually nice to see that even A drivers can be lethal.
Happens way more then you think in a and a+ lobbies.
It happens even in A+ my friend!
At this point you should just stick with ACC exclusively. With your skill level you shouldn’t be dealing with these arcade competitors
That Italian did not even bother to hit the brakes when he saw you. It’s absolutely all on him
Just a racing incident where the trailing driver took a risk with the car that didnt work out for him. Always watch for crashing cars ahead and be prepared to react.
Personally I blame myself if I was to make a dive overtake like that, he’s totally tryna put himself in the same position rorys in
1+1=1? Lol
That retaliation was absolutely unwarranted. I don't think they, the punters, realize how dirty they are. They take complete exception to every perceived slight and retaliate brutally at the first opportunity. This is very unsporting behavior. People need to chill out and stop making themselves judge, jury and executioner. Unless the move that harmed them was obviously and completely dirty, and even then, retaliating just brings the whole state of play down for everyone. I'm no role model, surely, and I lose my ish sometimes, too. But we should all try a little harder to work together with each other and stop just performing a NFS Takedown every time we get bumped.
If you think about it the only thing Rory did was go wide into the grass
The other driver drove with safety abandoned that’s why they collided
And then to bully Rory like that is unwarranted
I think the retaliation was uncalled for, but he maybe saw your part as an unsafe rejoin.
It was as safe as I could have I felt, I always try to anyway!
@@EERIEISSSS Having watched many of your videos Rory, I know you are a considerate driver. I was just trying to assess what may have 'sparked' your opponent on this occasion.
So on this one I am not agreeing that Rory is 100% in the right here. I would call this a racing incident as both drivers are somewhat in the fault here. Lupin could have given more space, but on the other hand after the rejoin and coming off the curb Rory's car is moving across the track. Not defending the Italian guy though, what he did after is inexcusable.
50/50. But his reaction is ridiculous.
I've gone back to GT Sport. It looks like all the kids got GT7 for Christmas and have finally got to the point where they can enter daily races. GT Sport seems a lot more civilised now
Totally agree. It’s much cleaner than GT7. Only problem is sometimes the lobbies are full, other times not so much.
Cant agree that this is the current state of GT7. I do remain at the back however so pretty hard to ram me.
Unsafe rejoin onto the racing line
I'm glad to see it doesn't just happen to me. I did this race 5 times so far, and managed one third place, but the other races were just ridiculous. People seem to forget that you actually have to use the brakes, and try not to punt other people off.
A Peugeot with Monster livery? This guy was never going to show class.
I wouldn’t say that this is the state of Gran Turismo multiplayer. I will say this is the state of this dude’s unhinged mental health.
“You Hate To See It…” 🤔 😏
You hate to see it. Gotta remember that some of these people are probably like 12 year olds in their bedrooms, sad but sort of understandable at that age unfortunately.
I doubt thats the case. In iracing the little kids are usually good and respectable. Its the non english speaking bunch that is ruthless. I wont mention the countries but its always the case
Those 12 year old at school the times Rory plays. These are mostly adults on during the day.
@@mramaz1ngarry728 People play from all over the world pal, different timezones.
@@jamesalexanderbarnettdp9479 it's EMEA region. So not much time difference. He's from Italy so it's only a hour difference. They region it so you get better connections. It's split between 3 different regions around the world. Not many on a Monday would use a alt account for a different region.
@@mramaz1ngarry728 Fair enough I get what your saying, I guess my opinion on it is from the view that a lot of the time we think the players on the game are the same as us, or are old enough to know better however we forget to take into account the loads of people who play Gran Turismo are probably just kids who think its funny to ruin peoples races.
Nah Rory you’re 100% in the right you was having your own moment almost crashing and this dude rams into you and then further retaliates by bullying you
He inserted himself into your own accident and took it personal for whatever reason
Uhhh no. You’re being biased. Rory was rejoining and took no consideration of a car beside him after he went off on his own.
Anyone happen to know his settings for his DD Pro? Or where to find them?
Hey!! Got destroyed in a few races last week. Quit a couple as my lag was annoying me/distracting for others. Ended up a C-S, which is basically demolition Derby. Be a few races back to B DR. Race standard has definitely dipped
Well, according to reddit, revenge fouls are justified, if not mandatory. I think they are calling it teaching the other driver a lesson.... 🙊
What was the lesson? If you went wide a little you should be bullied to last place?
@@mojojoji5493 idk. Ask the people of reddit.
It’s the Italians I’m telling y’all
It is getting out of hand!
Could be stream snipers too
@@mojojoji5493 could be for sure. I have been experiencing similar scenarios as of late though.
Those drips off his taillights was dope af tho lol
Why do you use the DD pro over the DD1 ?
Can you report players?
I have the same wheel and wheel base combo, can you share your in game and Fanatec settings. I can’t seem to find the right balance.
Moved up to C-S for maybe 2 races bumped back to D-S due to demo derby. Figured skill level would improve, it didn’t
This sort of thing is 90% of the reason I quit playing. The other 10% was because offline just had no substance
They need to improve the penalty system, I literally drove suzuka all week and only got one clean race where someone didn't ram me off the track for no reason
He had a touch of the verstappens
I hate many things in this world but none of that hate will top my hate for gt multiplayer when it goes down to forza horizons multiplayer level.
I wish to see what the guy said after the race.
What a dirty driver! 😲 Maybe one day, PD can build Race Control AI to investigate and penalise dirty drivers in real time. If they get DQ-ed after persistent contact, then it would let the clean drivers race in peace. 🙏
Obviously he got his panties in a bunch because he couldn’t handle being beaten! Typical bad sportsmanship of most people these days!
Its on the operator to pass cleanly as possible. You did rejoin into the race line, yes it was a tricky high speed swooping section that makes rejoining difficult. Whos to blame for this contact, idk? His retaliation was a silly thing to do tho.
Just realised that I'm a member. So thanks to the stranger who has gifted me a membership!
Of course it wasn't necessary Rory, but that's what you get all day in open lobbies. Why? Because there is no consequences for anything that happened there. Firstly, PD should have awarded you a hefty penalty for your poor rejoin (whether you could do something about it or not, you ruined his race). Secondly PD should be handing out even harsher penalties for punting and ramming. Because they don't, on it goes.
Unfortunately, online racers with your ethics are almost nonexistent so short of sanctioned events or private rooms, I can't see it changing.
I would like to see 10 seconds for first punt, 30 seconds for second indiscretion, and DQ for strike 3. Maybe followed with a 24 hour ban from online comp and followed up with 7 days for another offence within a week of the first. Even Kimi would change up with this! Chances of it actually happening, pretty slim. Keep up the great content mate and keep fighting the good fight. It definitely rubs off on some of us.
ACC LFM isn't perfect but it's rare to happen this kind of revenge since players know they can be banned from using the service.
Hi, i always enjoy the Videos from you, but i have a question to you, how could you create a account as american? when i (as Austrian) try to make account under Indonesian Flag, they not let me do it, have an idea how i can manage this???
Question just dragged back to B I have a S safety rating . Why do I need to get through the B drivers with a bad SR before being with safe drivers ? Surely the dodgy SR drivers should be in their own servers?
They sorta are.... I believe lobbies go first by DR then by SR, or maybe the other way round, point is there are SR rated lower lobbies.... a few bad driving SR hits and you will be there quick... keep it dirty and stay in em, clean it up and get right back to top SR lobbies again...
Happens every once in a while, PD put up some stupid race with SR hits and people start getting put in the "bad boy" lobbies.... try and stay clean and this won't be an issue.... like don't be this guy and retaliate.... lol 😂
@@Zascar_88 ty for your reply I've never dropped below S SR. I'll keep plugging away at it or stick to private lobbies and my weekly league race. I just feel it puts people off but I guess that's the nature of any multi player people just love to win at any cost even if they emulate Kimi Velocini whom has gained star status and got away with it.😁
Don't expect drivers with better SR rating to be fair. Often times they are just advanced dirty drivers who hit your rear from the side and turn you into a wall. SR rating is only affected by penalties and decreases even if you were pushed into a wall by another driver and get an additional 5 sec penalty...
@@hip62 unfortunately they all want their 15 seconds of fame... 😔
@Marcel Jeske not wrong there... another side to consider is the amount of players online.... no one on then it's a mixed lobby anyway.... and these days there are definitely good times to be on and bad ones!
No question about who's at fault. My personal problem is with inconsistent "ghosting", at times too strong and other times simply not enough. Just last night I crashed into this guy who was literally perpendicular to the track but totally solid, pushed him off even tho he was already going by himself, damaged my car and then get a penalty for pushing an opponent off-track. And I think ramming someone off-track, if ghosting was proper and consistent, should incur much harsher penalties. If you hit me in the back and push me off, there's no way you should get ONLY 5 seconds, personal opinion.
Not the best of re-joins due to drop in speed and racing line obstruction but, those things happen from time to time. Perfect races are scarce. Retataliation from opponent unacceptable.
Honestly,you had Radar awarness mate,could ve at least let him pass and re take him in the next corner with the inside line. Good job on keeping the cool !
I started sport mode for the first time ever last week, and had a great 3 days in D/S, but the second I hit C, the idiots came out to play.
Hi Rory, sorry for the unrelated question but I would appreciate some real world advice. I bought a Prime Lite recently and it is sitting in my garage awaiting a seat. I wanted the RS12 black fabric seat (like my current Playseat) and I have been waiting for quite a while for new stock to come in. GTO seem unable to give me any indication of when they will get stock back in.
I believe that you use the XL RS seat, which they do currently have in stock. I understand that it is made of PVC. This put me off because my room is warm and hot in summer, and I was worried about the seat becoming uncomfortable and sweaty when racing for long periods.
How do you find your seat over long periods and would you buy the XL RS again, or would you opt for the cloth seat.
Very many thanks for your time answering this question.
As others have said, I've struggled with this but I'm not a great driver - I'm old and slow - and thoight it was a lower ranking thing. I've struggled to get out of the D class and first race in C was like a demolition derby. A few more races and I'll be back in D. It's gutting as all I wnt to do is try and race and try to get better.
Exactly my point.i use a controller and auto gears but i am still pretty good as i have played many hours on Gt7 but races are constantly ruined by mindless idiots that are clearly not there to race.sad as it seems i have written down all the ones that cheat so i know who to avoid.although some are easy to remember because its all they do to win.
A shocking state of affairs that was. Seems like he's part of a team, so hopefully, a team mate has seen this & reported him.
10:36 was that really necessary? well yes. crashing in to the wall head first was hilarious. Lupin, you are a muppet!
Amazed he is in the same lobby as you
This is why i will never bother with this sim.
I just did my first gran turismo 7 online race and it was a shit show... its just a bunch of people ramming into one another to try and knock them into grass and take their position.... its put such a bad taste in my mouth that I dont even want to bother playing GT7 anymore...
Like I'm actually trying to race properly and use proper race etiquette... and I had 3 people just ram into me in the curves and knock me into grass... and there's no penalty for them doing it... its ridiculous.. I can't believe they would even claim to be "the real racing simulator" if there's no repercussions for other drivers behaving badly...
I'm just going to try the Iracing... maybe the cost of entry for that game filters out all the trash out there...
and what really annoys me is that entire reason I bought a ps5 was to play gran turismo 7... and now its like a 400 dollar table decoration..
According to the game he hasn’t done a thing wrong.. no penalties appear to have been given so what’s everyone complaining for.. racing incident. Says everything about the game to me
Allegedly the bulk of players in the online and daily races are low age teens according to the interview Poly gave at Monaco
knowing that you are a clean driver, yes, it was too much, but assuming that they didn't know, he probably thought that you were a dirty driver
Gotta be honest buddy, I'd have been pretty mad at you for that re-entry too 😅
Rory’s mistake and the rejoin was awful. Yes the retaliation was unbecoming but that’s not an excuse. Drivers should not attempt to rejoin a track while there are cars on the racing line.
I will say though you did join straight onto the racing line at a slow speed but contact should have been avoidable I think
Typical of a lot of people who blame others for their own mistakes.
It didnt look a good rejoin at first but from his POV it was clear where you were, either he expected you to stay out of the way or ghost through you.
I kinda get the frustration even if he had yielded he would have been so slow through that section and was probably reluctant to do so but just sour grapes from him after the crash. Completely unnecessary.
There is good & bad in all . U did hit him but I think he was having a worse day than U because it became EVEN STEVEN lol . He was now going to get EVEN . No matter how many times it took lol . Just keep doin what U doin . You're a good man Charlie Brown . . .
😂😂 Welcome to my daily struggle 😅, I dropped my ranking last night, back in D section 😢
GT7 experience right here.
Turned gt7 on, did 3 daily races, got punted off in every race. Turned ps5 off. Pointless doing online sadly.
When you finish a race you should be able to use chat straight away. Theres nothing worse than some goon ruining your race and not getting a chance to say it to them
It’s OK, that guy last move will make it to the Idiots Of The Week video…
Ich wundere mich seit geraumer Zeit, warum der Upload der PS5 extrem niedrig ist ( max. 7Mbit/s min.2,4 Mbit/s ) .Am PC sagt mir der Speedtest aber 25Bbit/s.
Das haben wir an verschiedenen Tagen, zu verschiedenen Uhrzeiten gemessen. Witzigerweise ist der Upload an Tagen, an dem es ein Systemupdate gab um einiges höher ( gemessen an der PS 5 17Mbit/s ) und nun kommt es, das Ruckeln der Autos auf GT7 ist bei 17Mbit/s absolut verschwunden und am nächsten Tag steht der Upload wieder zwischen 2,4 und 7Mbit/s und die Autos auf GT7 zucken wieder wie verrückt über die Piste.
Warum ist der Upload auf der PS5 so niedrig?
Shut be ban for italian cun...
I still fink penatly point system is to soft
Need to be more and more penatly seconds
This game prefer dirty drivers
Definitely not your fault Rory. Like you say he went on the warpath for some strange reason
Yea the retaliation was unnecessary, but for some reason GT7 is life and death for some people
You should try the b/c races…
I'm gonna have to say you were good here my brotha.
what a fool . keep going Rory mate .
Drivers like that it’s the reason i don’t play gt7 anymore. He should know coming of the grass your grip is bad. He is just a crybaby.
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I know most may disagree and get upset lol 😂but you're rejoin lol if you had held off for a second before ecelarating when you came back on the would have been no contact I don't think he thought you would come back on the racing line
And yes he also could have slowed to so for part one both parties could have avoided the situation
Point 2
What he did to retaliate was and is uncalled for, and very unsportsmanlike
that's the sadist part of current state of affairs in gran turismo people can get away with alot of things
Your unsafe rejoin started the whole thing. Was the retaliation justified? Of course not, but seeing as how you made no effort to return the position, plenty of blame to go around.
The problem seems to be that PD are focusing their AI efforts into better robots to race, when the best way to ensure everybody WANTS to race real people is to use AI to better steward and penalize racing incidents.
Some other games have mechanisms forcing you to return position when a crash is your fault. The better leagues have had returning position as a core part of racing etiquette. Timed penalties don’t really make the player face the direct consequences of taking someone out. Having to return position fairly immediately (I think PC2 made you do it in 20 sec or so) for staters takes some of the rage factor away from the aggrieved party, plus puts him ahead of you where retaliation isn’t a temptation.
4:29 Polyphony Digital fix your penalty system 🤦♂
When 10 year old play GT7
#notlast lol. You didn't do much wrong, a slight error but nothing justifies that behaviour. Was pretty funny seeing him try it again. #karma lol
I bet he wouldn't have kept his foot down if he had to pay for the damages......
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lol sad, he should of gave space as caution for when you returned back on track.
they need to do away with the ghosting.
Ya hate to see it..
That was 100% his fault. The only contact was when he drove into you, making contact when you were all the way on the outside of a corner causing him to bounce into the wall. There was nothing you could have done to avoid him turning into you.
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Nope. Rory went off and tried to rejoin, forcing this guy off track.
@@griff_the_boxerHow can he rejoin if he never left the track limits? He went wide into a turn and had a slow exit and this guy came up from behind and, literally, turned right into him. Look at the other driver's wheels steering to the right when he's next to Rory. Rory appears to be steering to the right into the next turn to give him room.
The title of the video might as well be: "dumbass keeps crashing into me while I try to avoid him".
There is a duty of care to rejoin correctly. Retaliation was over the top but come on Rory crashed, car on track doesn't have to give way,rejoin safely.
@@norrinradd335 He went wide coming out of a turn and had a slow exit, so saying "rejoin" is misleading since he never crashed or left the track limits. There was no overlap until after the driver from behind forgot to brake.
I canot understand how this guy have CP A and CD S
But Rory, today was not a good day for you 😅
You did nothing wrong ,that was a chiled in my opp. aint no grown ass man with an iq higer than warm wather blaming you in that scenario
Well, he knows if he takes you out, he'll have 15 mins of fame on your channel. If that's his modus operandi, then he is completely justified. You've just proved he made the right decision. Awful rejoin from you, by the way.
I understand the part where you want to be clean and race fairly, but seeing you just take hit after hit from idiots and you do nothing about it is frustrating to watch. If he's trying to take you out and you're not in the race, just return serve and get on with it
I will never intentionally ram another driver in any sim, not my style.
On the replay you actually rejoined perfectly fine. He is on the far left racing line. He basically just drove into the back of you rather than go around.
Yeah.... That was your fault. But he could have been the bigger man.
I'm sorry, but, you're the one who is rejoining the track, you could've been more carefull aswell, what would've put in the path of whoever came behind, and we could have a similar video but with other intervenient, anyways, not that serious! ✌️
Suzuka last week was brutal. Qualified P3-5, and got punted off in T1 or the esses in almost every race. This game is broken.
Happening all too often this
It’s petty & childish
You rejoined unsafely and screwed him over🤷♂️
I like your videos a bunch, but I totally think that was all on you. Not gonna fan boy here man, sorry. You went off, came back on squirmy, and hit ol boy. You then kept the position, but you were out of control and hit him a third time. It wasn't necessary