My Secret Method To Pick Guitar Strings For Down Tuning & Metal (It’s not what you think…)

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  • @legoharry100
    @legoharry100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Stringjoy is the GOAT for strings. I've been using them exclusively since 2017 for all kinds of tunings and guitars.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Undisputed imo. This handy calculator aside, the strings themselves are awesome. Great tone and tuning stability, and they last a long time.

    • @clawfoot8400
      @clawfoot8400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They make great strings but I need coated as my hands corrode strings within minutes 🥲

    • @kazukihiratani
      @kazukihiratani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clawfoot8400 Same here, as soon as they start doing coated, I'm gonna jump ship from Elixir over to Stringjoy!

    • @zarlodious1
      @zarlodious1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@clawfoot8400 I’ve had strings go years without issue, you corrosive folks ought to check and change your diets.

    • @clawfoot8400
      @clawfoot8400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zarlodious1 thanks I’m cured

  • @kennethfrazee2540
    @kennethfrazee2540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I did go 9-42 in C# once and there it was, Master of Reality. Super slack strings sound so sick if u can stay in tune and learn to play them clean.

    • @kimseniorb
      @kimseniorb ปีที่แล้ว

      this. thick strings sound shite

    • @kurtshervinski836
      @kurtshervinski836 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Definitely! I would use 10-52s in Drop A for awhile. My pinch harmonics were apocalyptic but I had to tune every 5 minutes and I was constantly pushing sharp

    • @christineblack4654
      @christineblack4654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's just ridiculous. slack you say?wow.impossible.

    • @reneebear3641
      @reneebear3641 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably helps mitigate the intonation issues with downtuning with hella thick strings too

    • @samuelferrell9257
      @samuelferrell9257 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same string gauges I use in C. Like you said, all the sudden I sounded like masters of reality. Never going back.

  • @josefk.122
    @josefk.122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Aside from loving Doom metal, and this channel - you have some of the most informative and well explained technique and general guitar information, period. 🤘🏽

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Much appreciated Josef!

  • @sickaroony
    @sickaroony 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Damn, a string tension calculator. That's genius, thanks for the find!

  • @michaelorourke7032
    @michaelorourke7032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thank you Steve, That's a great tool to use for getting the right strings for lower timings. Years ago When I started to tune to double drop F it was a struggle at first to get the right string gauge. Back then if i tried to ask someone at the guitar center for string advice they would look at me like I was insane.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha!! Glad it was helpful. The last comment about GC is so true!

    • @brians3948
      @brians3948 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve been told by a luthier it’s impossible to put 60s on a guitar or Floyd rose for that. And I’m like so the hundreds of death metal or doom bands did what exactly?

  • @dukeofphale8945
    @dukeofphale8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great video. The stringjoy calculator is also useful for figuring out which strings to use if you want to experiment with unusual tunings. But you should probably warn people that going to that site can be a real rabbit hole experience if you want to find the 'perfect' set of strings for your guitar.
    Quick note on the B-standard tuning - when you drop the tuning by five semitones you are basically shifting over one string (the A string drops to E, the D to A, etc.), so you should be mostly OK using a regular set of 9-42, but will still need a heavier string for the bottom. A set of strings for a seven string guitar is a good short cut (i.e., get the D'Addario 9-54 7 string set and save the 9 as a spare) if you want to experiment with a down tuning for the first time.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great tips man!!

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know Kowloon Walled City uses the 7-string-minus-the-high-E setup for their Drop A#, it's definitely a solid method.

  • @jedmarsillo
    @jedmarsillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Always dropping knowledge on drop tunnings. We appreciate it. Thanks Steve 🤘

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad to hear that it was useful Jed!

  • @tito.tarantula
    @tito.tarantula 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, this is brilliant. My journey into down-tunings is quite recent so this vid has been an absolute eye-opener. Thx so much.

  • @johnsguitarmusicanddemos
    @johnsguitarmusicanddemos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That is exactly the same website I used when I was doing that tuning of D# standard then you drop the lowest string all the way down to G#. It definitely helped.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Helpful for sure!

  • @harleyray3058
    @harleyray3058 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really love Stringjoy and their calculator. I use them on my EGC baritone in G# standard. Perfect tension and feel without the strings feeling too flubby or too tight and they ring out perfectly. So much sustain.

  • @Loki_FPV666
    @Loki_FPV666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a really helpful resource. I both broke and dislocated the pointer finger on my fretting hand two years ago and I've been trying to find just the right strings to make playing less painful.

  • @poyerdude
    @poyerdude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For a guitar newb wanting to play heavy riffs you guys are great. Thanks for the info!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad to hear that man!!

  • @_-Unity-_
    @_-Unity-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember you talking about this in your live stream. Cool to have a vid on it. Thanks

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah! That discussion inspired this video! I felt like it was so easy and useful that it deserved its own vid.

  • @-processdrone-
    @-processdrone- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so it IS what I think.
    When I found my first online string tension calculator it changed my life (albeit I had pretty good intuition it turned out)
    Good advice, glad it's out there.

  • @thetonemob
    @thetonemob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome Steve! This is a great tutorial for folks

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The tension calculator is perfect and the strings themselves sound amazing. I’m a huge fan. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @EricMerrow
    @EricMerrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is such a great tool to use! Thanks Steve!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Eric!! Stringjoy really made it so easy to use. Have messed with others over the years that were always painful for some reason.

  • @parkkingery9216
    @parkkingery9216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME guide and my favorite string brand

  • @necroticpoison
    @necroticpoison ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely great vid🔥

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it!

  • @jonlieberman997
    @jonlieberman997 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for making this so simple to understand.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you found it simple! That was the goal, but I wasn’t sure I achieved it.

  • @mickfretty8038
    @mickfretty8038 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic! Problem solved! Thank you so much for this ❤

  • @rickycompton2610
    @rickycompton2610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great informative video as always Steve especially for guitarist just beginning to down tune there guitar. You should do a video in the things involved in putting on thicker gauge string as in nut cutting extra I would make a great video.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked the video. Great idea on the other video as well. Think I will do it.

  • @jamiebriggs8277
    @jamiebriggs8277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's amazing. I love Stringjoy - I use the "Balanced Super Light Plus" in standard tuning, on my gibson-length guitars. I didn't know they had this tool - not only will it let me get a matching set for my C# tuning, it will help me find a matching set for my fender scale length guitars.
    I also use Ernie Ball Hybrid Slinky for standard tuning, since I can get a 3-pack of those for the cost of 1 set of Stringjoy...but I do love the feel of the Stringjoy strings, especially the balanced sets, and the ability to order custom sets is great.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re going to love the calculator. Makes it so easy to order the right strings every time. Plus as you know the strings themselves sound awesome. Big fan.

  • @chrispoints4554
    @chrispoints4554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I stick to B/C/C# (and corresponding drop tunings) for most of my Doom/Stoner/Sludge. For my SG/Les Pauls I use Ernie Ball not even slinkys (12-56), they work incredibly well and have been my go to since EB started selling the set in the mid 2000s

  • @r2aul
    @r2aul หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANK YOU FOR THIS!!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure thing!

  • @bimscutney1242
    @bimscutney1242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. This is great! Thanks!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful. Great tool!!

  • @JoshuaPatrickGarrett
    @JoshuaPatrickGarrett 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really super handy. Thank you

  • @joet_swbo101
    @joet_swbo101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very cool, thanks for sharing

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @skxj
    @skxj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome to know . great video
    Thanks

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it!

  • @AndrewWukusick
    @AndrewWukusick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This helped me so much. I love the feel of 10-52 in drop C# on 25.5", turns out it's around 112.3lbs, so I was able to get some strings to get that same tension for all my different tunings and guitars. Such a well made tool 👏

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing tool for sure!

  • @TheDistortionPrinciple
    @TheDistortionPrinciple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a great calculator and takes the guess work out!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Takes all the guesswork out of it. Gotta love it.

  • @JoshuaPatrickGarrett
    @JoshuaPatrickGarrett 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's great, a string tension calculator!

  • @stambusky
    @stambusky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @mikeg6666
    @mikeg6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful Steve , I use EB cobalt and DR dime's or tights. My main qauges are 9-42 , 11-50 and 11-52. The thickest I've tried were 11-54's mostly for Doom. I've tried 8's on my SG in c# and it was like playing rubber bands and wondered how Iommi did it. This definitely makes things easier for future tuning's , really appreciate this. Thanks bro!👍🤘🎸

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found it helpful! I think Tony only used the 8’s for E-Std and Eb-Std. He used 9-42 for C#, but even that feels pretty much like rubber bands and is really hard to keep in tune!! www.labella.com/artists/tony-iommi/

    • @mikeg6666
      @mikeg6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DoesItDoom Yeah learned that the hard way 😉 thanks for the link 👍

    • @mikeg6666
      @mikeg6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DoesItDoom Just screen shot that info , I've got plenty of strings to try his custom gauge settings!✌️

  • @ericvernon1182
    @ericvernon1182 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently discovered StringJoy...
    The tension calculator is great and super easy to use... their strings are good too!!!

  • @MarkDaniels2787
    @MarkDaniels2787 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so rad

  • @tunelowplayslow5623
    @tunelowplayslow5623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To whom ever this might help. I recently set a les paul custom in B standard. I did a lot of research and found a lot of people were using 12 & 13s so when I took the guitar in for a setup I gave the tech a set of DR droptune 13s.( I use DR droptune 11s on my other les paul custom tuned a half step down and they feel perfect.) When I got the guitar back I instantly could tell there wasn't enough string tension. Complete slop. And not in a cool sludge way. Just sounded and played bad. I have been using DR'S for over 10 years and love them. For the cost I still believe they are the best strings on the market, though I will be trying these stringjoys soon. Anyway, DR does not make a larger set of strings for 6 string guitars so in stead of breaking up a 7 or 8 string pack I started to look elsewhere for a larger set. To my surprise D'addario makes a 14-68 w/ a 4th wound. Night and day difference. Tighter better sounding picking and if you're a rhythm player the 4th wound puts out massive brutal chords. For a 24 3/4 scale length I could not go back and play anything lighter. And if you plan on going drop A I would go custom set and have at least a 70 if not larger. This only applies to this short scale length though. Just my 2 cents.

  • @danielpatrickswain4338
    @danielpatrickswain4338 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my calculations from this video and using Stringjoy for my Les Paul a set of Mammoth Slinkys works well for B Standard.:--) nice, thanks for sharing man

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful, Dan!

  • @chriscurran1967
    @chriscurran1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Steve!!! I use a set of 7 string Ernie Ball’s and just drop the high string. I also like a wound g string, I play in B standard. The gauges that actually end up on my guitar are high to low, 13, 17, 26w, 36, 46, 56. They work pretty well for me, but I need to add, I’ve worked with my hands all of my life, so I have a pretty solid grip. Solid video though Steve!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a great option!

    • @TexasSmoking
      @TexasSmoking 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats exactly what the metal band avatar did for a very long time. It contributed to their monster heavy tone and ripping leads

  • @ricksell2877
    @ricksell2877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job Steve !!! Stringjoy is top notch and run by a great group of guys. I guess there are no rules. I actually use 8’s on my PureSalem La Flaca (shameless plug) and Tele partscasters and tune down to C. Sounds super heavy and comfortable to play. Throw in my favorite Fuzz boxes and I’m a happy camper. I’ve tried all kinds of string gauges and I found that I prefer the sound of lighter strings. Does it Doom - YES very much so. So much goes into the final sound we hear. I think volume and amp headroom play a big part. As well as speakers. I have some great heads (Sound City, Orange, Matamp, Roost, Laney) running into a pair of old early Emperor Cabs (4x12 - 2x15) and the walls shake. The thing is to experiment until you find what works for you. The tone chase never really ends as I wait patiently for the next Does It Doom pedal release. Keep up the awesome work. I look forward to seeing every new video. - Rick / PureSalem Guitars

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Rick! I love that La Flaca model of yours!! Sounds like you've got a killer rig... new DID pedal coming soon!!!

    • @ricksell2877
      @ricksell2877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoesItDoom Thanks !!! Can’t wait for that new pedal.

  • @Ivan4n09
    @Ivan4n09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I got 12-62 (Ernie Ball mammoth) and they feel rather floppy in C Standard. But very comfortable, cause I like to play hard.

    • @kennethfrazee2540
      @kennethfrazee2540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      these sets get me real close to B/dropped A on Gibson scale, I usually run a 60.

    • @gorzunggore2592
      @gorzunggore2592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same chords for standard A tuning - Churchburn plays also in A tuning, and Dave Suzuki shreds wonderful solos, I don't think he uses big strings. The guy from Pentagram recommended in an interview to use light strings to get the fat and deep sound..

  • @justinsane7884
    @justinsane7884 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk man, ive been messing with thicc gauges and notice its all about you and your feeling, the grip, sustaining the notes with ur fingertips. With my small hands on my ibanez, i love to use 50-11 or 10 to D standard, and another i own for drop A standard only 52-11. I live for the feel of its even thiccness across the fretboard i can actually hit it all without having buzz or trouble. I bid you all a sick time in the journey of tones

  • @kwon-tobi
    @kwon-tobi ปีที่แล้ว

    좋은 정보 감사합니다~ 잘 보고가요~~😀😀🤘🤘👍👍👍👍👍

  • @user-jh7ki9sn5h
    @user-jh7ki9sn5h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's sick

  • @johnsguitarmusicanddemos
    @johnsguitarmusicanddemos ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve bought from them several times. They last quite awhile and sound good.

  • @no_name1107
    @no_name1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always used Dunlop Heavy Core 10's while in C Standard.

  • @niteshades_promise
    @niteshades_promise 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10s a whole step low since the 90s. Thinner pick keeps me in tune.🍻

  • @arkie74
    @arkie74 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use DDT 13s on my Epiphone LP.
    love em!!!! I have a secret for my D and G. on the nut, I use just a dab of gun oil. no tuning trouble at all.

  • @venomaster8551
    @venomaster8551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i use the ernie ball beefy slinky 11-54 on my jaguar which has 24” scale length tuned to C standard and the strings are perfect!! there is a little flop which feels great but they are still pretty tight and never go out of tune. anyone using a jag should try em

  • @MS-nj7id
    @MS-nj7id 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have just recently sub’d to your channel and have enjoyed a number of videos on your gear reviews. I was wondering, with all the attention paid to gear which is best suited to stoner and heavy fuzz, are there pickups better suited to down tunings and the overall stoner tone? This is probably not the best place to ask but I thought it might be close to the string issue.

  • @jessoid
    @jessoid ปีที่แล้ว

    i actually like super low tension, i use anywhere from 10's to 12's in A# standard. the tuning stability is fine and the intonation is fine, i have a super light touch.

  • @jaredt3985
    @jaredt3985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been using a 12-60 custom set for C standard. The strings are I would say medium tension, which I like, since I do like to get the chugz out in my riffs.
    I find with any lighter than a 60 on that bottom string and I’m booming out of tune, but that’s just me, we’re all different obviously.

  • @nitkatchitkuk_rednecks
    @nitkatchitkuk_rednecks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dean Markley Jazz 12-54 with winding 3rd string on 24.75. In B standard or Iommi

  • @RunningMan40510
    @RunningMan40510 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use 12-56 Magnum Slinky tuned to G# for doom. It's easier on my hands. It retains a lot of top end clarity that gets lost with super heavy strings. It goes out of pitch when played, giving it a more spooky sound, no matter what effects notes or chords i play. It just sounds more doomy when playing with loose strings for what ever tuning im in, so long as it's not ridiculously loose that everything turns to mush. Tony Iommi made doom sound more doomy/evil this way. Another thing i notice is that eq becomes easier to work with when theres not ao mich tension in the strings. They say to use 14-72 for g#. Even if its the right tension, that gauge totally sounds like shit. Ive gotten away with 12-56 and even as light as 10- 48 and it works like a charm. It may feel funny to someone not used to playing with loose string tension but if you're trying to play doom, its the way to go. Just make sure you always have a pack ready for when a string breaks.

  • @kurtshervinski836
    @kurtshervinski836 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've exclusively used Stringjoy since 2017 and I won't buy off the shelf sets unless it's an emergency. I play in Drop A# with a 12, 16, 24w, 32w, 44w, 80w set and it's made such a big impact on my playing, having a truly balanced set just feels so much better. Plus the 80 just sunds percussive and absolutely massive when tracking single string riffs

    • @DanielRodriguez-eh1qd
      @DanielRodriguez-eh1qd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the first place I’ve seen that can have a drop A set with a wound third. I really really don’t like plain thirds, too large of a plain string so they always dig into my finger.

    • @kurtshervinski836
      @kurtshervinski836 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DanielRodriguez-eh1qd wound 3rds make such a big difference in intonation too, plus they just sound better. I even have a wound 3rd on my Drop D set

    • @DanielRodriguez-eh1qd
      @DanielRodriguez-eh1qd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kurtshervinski836 I used Ernie Ball Beefy slinky’s in the past for drop C tuning and the third is a .022P. I hate that string with a passion and then that set would always bust strings either during practice or worse at shows. So I switched to Daddario XLs jazz set 12-52s for drop C and it’s the perfect set for me. However since the band broke up and I’m playing and writing solo I started to tune down to drop A but I haven’t found a single manufacture that has a would third for that kind of tuning. And the build a sets are a bit too complicated for me to even put an order together until I discovered this brand. I’m still messing with the custom tension menu for now since I’ve never brought this brand string before. The largest size I want on top is a .062. It is an easy tool to mess with which I like so I’m going to finalize the set and then order them next Friday. If all goes well then I’ll start buying them by the three pack. One of the aspects I live about daddarios besides the wound third is they last forever for me and I’ve never popped a string on stage. So I hope these have the same durability.

    • @kurtshervinski836
      @kurtshervinski836 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DanielRodriguez-eh1qd get a 7 string set and try an 80 sometime, then if you don't like it, just cut it off. It's a life changer. I used to use 64 for A# before I saw Lee Malia used an 80 so I decided to try it and it changed everything for me. The 80 is double wound so it doesn't feel anywhere near as tense as I expected it to be but it sounds so massive and beefy it's unreal. You sacrifice a hair of tightness but it's so worth it

    • @kurtshervinski836
      @kurtshervinski836 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      .0125, .017, .024w, .034, .046, .080 is my preferred Drop A set but for balanced tension I recommend at least a .068, 62 is only 15lbs of tension which will go out of tune if you play hard

  • @arlenspeights
    @arlenspeights ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is super helpful! I noticed that you chose a slightly lower tension for the 6th string, rather than staying closer to 17lbs. I've always knee-jerk opted for a heavier low string--what an I missing out on?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could go either way. Not a big deal.

  • @collinputney2018
    @collinputney2018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been extremely fond of Ernie Ball Mondo Slinky’s. I love the slack of downtuned strings but I still need that extra little tension to stay in tune. The 10.5s just feel buttery. I’ve never had an issue with them, even in Drop B or C Standard.

    • @VOX-TRO
      @VOX-TRO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm interested in mondo, but would you think the 30w and 42w are too tight for drop c?

    • @VOX-TRO
      @VOX-TRO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How's the tension of the low 3 strings in drop B? If it feals great for fast downpicking, i might mix the mondo with power slinky to swap the 30w with 28w and the 42w with 38w. Thanks

  • @tlepsh_band
    @tlepsh_band ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man. Awesome content.
    So question... is the gauge, scale length, and tuning the only things that affects the tension?
    There are strings that are thin but have a high tension due to the inside wire or something..

  • @mr.timebombman2230
    @mr.timebombman2230 ปีที่แล้ว

    .11- .54 D' addario or Ernie ball. I usually tune to C# (sometimes with a drop B#)

  • @RoyalGuardGeine
    @RoyalGuardGeine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this why I've always struggled to bend? Because I use high tension strings with standard tuning?

  • @anechoicmedia
    @anechoicmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the string tension web page would carry selected gauges over to the custom order page...that being said, Stingjoy is the only brand I'll use

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree on that! Almost seems like a bug or something… you’d think it would carry over.

  • @nightoftheshape
    @nightoftheshape 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no flatwound option
    I actually switched to flatwounds after seeing your video where you talk about using them
    I’ve wanted to try them for years but just never got around it and now I’ve got flatwounds on all my guitars, I love it
    I really like the La Bella Jazz Flats stainless steel

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They’ve said they are working on flats! Looking forward to it.

  • @Clinthopanonymous
    @Clinthopanonymous 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the way. I've basically completely turned into a Stringjoy guy because of that calculator and custom sets.

  • @craigdamage
    @craigdamage ปีที่แล้ว

    Guitar is way more forgiving than bass in my experience. On a 34" scale bass you really gotta make an exact decision on what tuning you want to stay in and which appropriate gauge strings. Any change a whole step either way will likely require neck adjustments. On pretty much any off the shelf guitar with factory strings I can at least get down to C# without too much fuss. Once I do select heavier gauge guitar strings I can tune back up at least a whole step or so if needed without any need for major adjustments usually. Also, on bass I have found that most flatwound strings (especially Rotosound) are so high tension you can often get away with drop tuning without going to too heavy a gauge.

  • @rich-lf1bm
    @rich-lf1bm ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this eliminate the need adjustment of the height?

  • @luisbarrera5740
    @luisbarrera5740 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a huge proponent of progressive tension. Been doing it for over a decade and it works perfectly. Intonation is better, note clarity is better, distortion sounds tighter. Basically you gradually increase tension from e-E. So, if high e starts at 15lbs; adjust so the gauges gradually end at 19lb at the low E. You can play around with your tension of choice but the point still stands. Try it, you can thank me later.

  • @TomL-
    @TomL- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's pretty cool! We know that Tony Iommi still used light gauge when he tuned down to C#, which was obviously pretty slinky.....how much of that added to some of the subtlety of his sound? Does having the "correced" sting set and tension take anything away from that?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it plays a part in his sound for sure (and most notably in his vibrato). But playing 9-42 in C# is likely far from optimal. Tony has often been cited to comment on his tuning stability issues over the years. Very difficult to keep in tune, requires a very light tough on both the fretting and picking hands, etc. I would guess more people would be better suited for something like 11-52 in C#.

    • @maxstirner8717
      @maxstirner8717 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoesItDoom
      I use the Fender R&R guage's on my strat, and despite the cheap tuners, when I drop to C# standard it stays in tune without issue.
      It sounds almost exactly like Iommi on Vol 4 just from the string guages.
      Nickel, 10./38. skinny bottom, heavy top.

  • @mykneeshurt8393
    @mykneeshurt8393 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That shirt is killer....

  • @kittavares4334
    @kittavares4334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool stuff, I think I'll try it at some point, it's really not pricey even though I don't live in the US (11 bucks per set and 9 for the shipping).
    What about the lifespan? Where I currently live I have to use elixir coated strings and nothing else because the weather is so damn humid (last time I tried regular slinky ernie balls, it last 2-3 days before it started falling apart...)

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they have a pretty standard lifespan for non coated strings. I have liked them a lot.

  • @chrisdrzewiecki7953
    @chrisdrzewiecki7953 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you go about this route for a weird tuning like Ricky Wilson's CFxxFF tuning where the 3rd and 4th strings are removed?

  • @derekfromm8203
    @derekfromm8203 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if i went with the set you highlight in this video they would fit on a standard 6 string nut?

  • @joshww2339
    @joshww2339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful one oh doomest of dudes

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear it! 🙏🏻🤘🏻

  • @hailmaryrecordings8255
    @hailmaryrecordings8255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are Doom bands playing shows in L.A.? I’m curious to sing with one, because I have a tenor like Ozzy & in a place to do heavier music.

  • @akaboo69
    @akaboo69 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm trying to find the best gauge for my alternate tuning. B E D G B E but half a step down. I use 9.5 on my E flat guitars

  • @Black55478
    @Black55478 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    once you get the strings, if your guitar isn’t set up for the thicker strings and u have to file the nut, how do u do that accurately? And don’t u need to adjust the neck as well?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes and yes. Generally you’ll need to file nut slots with a set of nut slot files and the guitar will need a full setup (action, intonation, neck relief).

  • @arkie74
    @arkie74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use DDT heavy gauge 11-54, I'm going to try this, and see if it has the same tone, and sustain.
    ...and the same balls as the giant 11s lol.

  • @bleed_from_within_is_life9960
    @bleed_from_within_is_life9960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My problem has been when I tune to drop A# the strings hit each other a lot
    And I've had strings that don't do that but I forgot what they was

  • @dannyspitzer1267
    @dannyspitzer1267 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great info, thanks! Just getting into doom, I've always played in e-standard until now; I want to dedicate one of my guitars to c-standard and leave it there. So I'll use this method. Just curious, what are your thoughts on locking tuners? If you feel you don't need them, maybe you have a good recommendation for stringing strings to keep them in tune (other than a locking tuner)...new sub here, I've been binge watching many of your videos...thanks !

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Locking tuners aren’t a requirement; in fact, only a couple of my guitars have them. Most important thing is to have your gauges correct with your nut slots cut correctly to accommodate. A wound 3rd string helps. 12-56 or even up to 13-62 with a wound third is very common for C. Need to get the nut slots cut to fit or you will struggle with tuning stability.

    • @dannyspitzer1267
      @dannyspitzer1267 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DoesItDoom ok great info, thanks for the reply. I guess with the nut filing, you mainly just file until the string fits in (without jamming it in, of course), so it's basically a trial-and-error method, is that correct? (I'm pretty good mechanically, and very careful)

  • @Eliphas_Elric
    @Eliphas_Elric 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm gonna go ahead and say Stringjoy strings are some of the best, longest lasting strings I've ever played. They sound fresh and crisp forever.

  • @tulyar1043
    @tulyar1043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing this calculator fails to consider is the thickness of the core wire in the wound strings. Tune a sixth A'addario 056 down to B below concert E and it will flap about and the tuning will suffer. The fifth string will be nearly as bad. What is needed for the three wound strings are thicker core wires. Dunlop Strings make what they call Heavy Core strings. With a thicker core wire and thinner wrap wire they have a greater tension and greater tuning stability. I have used these strings and they do work in keeping the low tuning stable. This is why Cannibal Corpse have used them when playing live, both in G# std and A# std tunings. Gauges 013 to 056. For more info on this guitars and setup, look at the Granville Guitars TH-cam channel and a guy called Scooter will explain everything. Why didn't you go for a wound third string for B std tuning?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good info. I would assume the calculator is taking into account whatever core diameter Stringjoy is using on their strings. I personally don't use a wound 3rd until I get to about A-Standard. I prefer the playability of a plain 3rd.

  • @JustANobody419
    @JustANobody419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the Digitech Whammy drop tune pedal? Is that a good alternative to down tuning? Does it serve the same purpose, or does it not reproduce the same sound the heavier gauge strings resonate?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are decent, but overall not great. I feel like they don’t track super well beyond about 3 semitones, and playing at low volume is kinda terrible because your acoustic string noise is out of tune with the amplified signal.

    • @JustANobody419
      @JustANobody419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Killer, man. Thanks!

  • @tbone7463
    @tbone7463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to just tell the local luthier, I play doom, give me chunk. I always used Ernie balls and I believe I went as big as 56. Currently I have 10-50 and it feels ok in drop c.

  • @JimmyTorque
    @JimmyTorque ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So… I find one issue with this. On a standard tune o matic, raising the tailpiece also decreases tension . I find that on my string through deans, drop c 9-42 is ❤❤❤

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Decreasing break angle will always decrease tension, and vice versa.

  • @ski9392
    @ski9392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm new to trying to play doom metal; I've only played in standard and eb tunings.
    Do I need to adjust the nut on my guitar in order to have room for the thicker strings to work? I'm on an Ibanez guitar with a locking nut.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. Nut slots need to be filed wider to accommodate the thicker gauges. You’ll also need a setup (action, intonation, neck relief).

    • @ski9392
      @ski9392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DoesItDoom Thank you for your help! I appreciate you man!

  • @Nachtmahr616
    @Nachtmahr616 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You Americans have it easy, we don't have any choices here, not even 0.12 gauge sets. I have to buy 8 string earnie balls Regular 8 to tune my 7 string to G/6-string C, and our only Stringjoy dealer also doesn't have the more obscure sets anymore. Thomann really should add more string sets again, they should have the means to make deals with Stringjoy. Such an important but often overlooked variable of guitar playing. We all need strings

  • @edwarddavidson7693
    @edwarddavidson7693 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's awesome. So excuse me for asking a dumb question, but if I followed this process to drop my tuning down to say, C standard or whatever, because the string tension would be the same, then I wouldn't have to re-setup my guitar for the altered tuning? If so, that rules.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Neck relief might not change because tension is the same, but you would still have to file the nut to accommodate the new gauges and adjust intonation and probably action to accommodate the new gauges.

  • @um3899
    @um3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so does this mean that if I use this calculator correctly and get the right strings, I won't need to set up my guitar again? no truss rod adjustment, etc?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This video is showing you how to pick the right strings for any tuning, but you’ll still need a setup. When going larger on gauges you’ll need to have your nut slots cut to accommodate and the action, intonation, and neck relief adjusted. If you go large enough on gauge, you sometimes need to bore out the tuning peg hole as well.

    • @jamiebriggs8277
      @jamiebriggs8277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nothing will ever mean not setting up your guitar again :D
      I have to adjust my truss rods every time the weather changes...

  • @mikerauter1859
    @mikerauter1859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steve! What's your opinion of Doom Metal in standard tuning 440hz? Is down/drop tuning a must?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not very common today, but it can be done with the right approach (checkout the first 3 Witchcraft albums for one of my favorite examples of standard tuning doom). Can I ask what keeps you from wanting to downtune?

    • @mikerauter1859
      @mikerauter1859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DoesItDoom Thanks for your reply Steve, well 2 things: I enjoy the natural melodic tone of the guitar (unless a baritone) in standard tuning. And then personally I feel it leaves the composition transparent - it's ability to evoke the sense of doom and mourning stands unhidden by the pitch of the strings. St Vitus are my favorite band and I believe most of their tunes are just a half step down. 'Jingle Bells' would sound 'heavy' in drop G, and if played slowly with endless gain, making it very sludgy and doomy, but the composition remains 'happy and positive'.

  • @gibson2623
    @gibson2623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tommi played with 0.9's

  • @whitneymoore7659
    @whitneymoore7659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are the right numbers for drop A tuning? A1? A0? I can't figure it out.

  • @iii2187
    @iii2187 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i came to this video bc i bought ernie ball's 105/45 strings for a bass, i was tuning and i came to C standard, higher than that the strings feel too tight

  • @darkrednecks
    @darkrednecks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always play 8s in Eb so I tend to rock cobalt hybrid slinkys for C# and 52-10s for B

  • @Mmicklea
    @Mmicklea ปีที่แล้ว

    I realize this vid is over a year old, but why are the tension numbers different when I put the same numbers into the StringJoy calculator now?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be that they modified the calculations or the construction of the strings or something. Did you have the scale length set the same?

    • @Mmicklea
      @Mmicklea ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DoesItDoom I screwed something up. Went back and tried again and everything was the same as in the vid. Great video by the way!

  • @ismabronson1810
    @ismabronson1810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its posible to send to Spain? Or only buy in USA? Thanks :)

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure. You’ll have to contact Stringjoy to find out.

    • @ismabronson1810
      @ismabronson1810 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

  • @arkie74
    @arkie74 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey dude I have a question, how do I fix my "g" string when I tune down to A or G standard? I have tried, but I cant seem to get the buzz out of it, and keep the intonation rite. and I cant find the video on how to adjust it.

    • @harleyray3058
      @harleyray3058 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, which string gauges are you using, and what's your action and relief like?

    • @arkie74
      @arkie74 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harleyray3058 12s

    • @harleyray3058
      @harleyray3058 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arkie74 Excellent, what scale length also?
      Fret buzz can happen quite easily with a set up, esp with down-tuning through to A and lower. You could put the gauges up which will allow for more tension of course, and you'll likely have to set it up again. I have a 27.5 scale EGC and run it in G# standard with a set of stringjoys at .72w .58w .44w .32w .22p and .16p. You may also find you'll want your action a touch higher to help manage the buzz, but that's ultimately dependent on what you feel most comfortable with too.

  • @hazesession4091
    @hazesession4091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me… Drop c 12er
    drop b/a 13er

  • @chriswakfer4473
    @chriswakfer4473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not too far off from the Ernie ball mammoths I use for B standard on my 6 string

  • @TealScarab
    @TealScarab 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    XYZ? I don’t think I’ve heard of that tuning before.

  • @hadeseye2297
    @hadeseye2297 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:28 - 5:31. Yeah. That's the doom/stoner tone for you.

  • @Ebh760
    @Ebh760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Time to file some nut slots.

  • @johnconiglio9278
    @johnconiglio9278 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm, I always use 10 gauge strings. Tried 11 gauge strings and didn't like it. Couldn't imagine 12 gauge strings. Usually tune down to C#.