Winsor & Newton Oil Paint: Cadmium Red vs Cadmium-Free vs Hue Comparison

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
  • So the Cadmium-free pigment is A SECRET by the Winsor & Newton company and I was just curious to see how it compared against the bottles with actual pigments listed.
    I continue to make videos very poorly.
    Also, A SURPRISE.

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  • @da.Realghar
    @da.Realghar ปีที่แล้ว +9

    the separation of Pigment and Oil in the Michael Harding paint is only because they dont add any aditional filler or stabilizer is straight up only that, it happens in all mayor brands like Vasari, Rublev or Old Holland.

  • @caroSuko
    @caroSuko ปีที่แล้ว

    Lotta comparisons here, you pulled out so many reds! Great video!

  • @IliasZachariadisComposer
    @IliasZachariadisComposer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, you solved some questions for me

  • @user-yw2tv2rl4v
    @user-yw2tv2rl4v ปีที่แล้ว

    This is educative and funny, thanks!

  • @diegoallcore
    @diegoallcore ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cadmium pigments is irreplaceable. I love pyrroles for glazing but still cads are beautiful and opaque 😍

  • @anonymousfellowindian
    @anonymousfellowindian ปีที่แล้ว

    You got the best oil paint brands on earth. Lovely.

  • @mustofaukir4837
    @mustofaukir4837 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trimakasih tutorial nya..
    Smoga sukses selalu..

  • @elizabethkellerman969
    @elizabethkellerman969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes I had the same exact question. Is there really a difference?

  • @keltyk
    @keltyk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also have some vintage Winsor & Newton Artist. Some 1960s graphics on the tubes, and some pre-1960s. Like yourself, I think 40s, or maybe 50s. There is some variability in quality due to age. There is a golden yellow that has gone a bit rubbery, after maybe 70 years. Venetian red, a bit resistant too, at first, but soon smooths down under the palette knife. Pthalo green is easy to work with, I have 2 W and N versions... one called Monestial Green, the other Winsor Green (same pigment no.s). All in all, most of the few I have are great to work with

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've gotten rather fond of vintage winsor and newton oil paint, it just seems so much better than modern somehow. I've gotten hold of quite a lot of paint from the 50s or about, just, hoarding them. I haven't heard of Monestial Green, though!

  • @keltyk
    @keltyk ปีที่แล้ว

    I got that rush of disappointment from Harding's too. My tubes from 6 to 10 yrs ago had thicker paint. New tubes are runny. Same with Winsor & Newton Artist, which are cheaper. Harding's told me to stand the tubes upside down for a day or 2, to fix the runniness. I'm still not convinced. It may be that it's separation, because there are no additives. On the other hand, I think Old Holland are still thick like always, though not sure if that means they add something. I feel a more inclined towards Old Holland now, but MH were my favourite for a few years

  • @dimitrispapadimitriou5622
    @dimitrispapadimitriou5622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow ,that old tube holds really well for its age!

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว

      Antique oil paint is hit or miss: Some work like they're brand new, some separate from the oil and become unusable messes, and some just dry out and become rock hard. I like buying them, though!

    • @dimitrispapadimitriou5622
      @dimitrispapadimitriou5622 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CallyKariShokka was it expensive?

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 Typically yes. This specific tube cost me $40, as it was listed by itself from an ebay seller that just listed it as 'Oil paint'. Usually whole sets of vintage paint can go for a solid couple of hundred bucks. It also depends the color, the rarer colors will go for more.

  • @minnietoby
    @minnietoby ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the cadmium free as heavy a tube as the original cadmium, I know the winton range is not near as heavy

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, but not by much. I don't have a scale, but holding them in my hands, the cadmium one is a touch heavier than the cadmium-free, but in a way that you'd really have to FEEL for it. If you just picked them up in the store, I don't think you'd readily notice a difference in weight.

  • @k.k8791
    @k.k8791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The biggest question i have is ..does the red hue have the same lightfastness as the cad red ?

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว

      My question is, how does one test lightfastness, because I have absolutely no idea.

    • @k.k8791
      @k.k8791 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CallyKariShokka 😅😅
      Well they test it by making a swatch of one particular pigment or paint they cover half of it and put it in the sun for about a year ..how much that part fades determine its lightfastness

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@k.k8791 That seems easy enough, but... That's a long time to wait for a youtube video. 😆

    • @k.k8791
      @k.k8791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CallyKariShokka it's a hell of a time to wait...that's why we have lightfastness ratings by other artists or other companies

    • @phillipstroll7385
      @phillipstroll7385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The lightfast rating is on the tube.

  • @MrKongatthegates
    @MrKongatthegates 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice video but the shadow tho...I like the vintage paint best

  • @danielbrant6740
    @danielbrant6740 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At least your mom cared enough about you to subscribe. My Mom isn't subscribed to me because she doesn't have a TH-cam account and out of my 2 brothers only the younger one bothered to do so...☹️

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HI DANIEL. ...My mom doesn't really GET youtube but her loyal, loving and caring children have taught her how to subscribe to things. No, I don't know if my mom can see these comments but I'm not taking any chances.

    • @k.k8791
      @k.k8791 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tragic

  • @hose3708
    @hose3708 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so does hue mean there is NO cadmium?

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hue means that there is, in fact, no cadmium! Hue means it's made to mimic it!

  • @LittleMew133
    @LittleMew133 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can tell you for a fact that the cad hues don't behave like the real cads. I have the Winton cad yellow hue, and it's super transparent and not full bodied.

  • @roderich7549
    @roderich7549 ปีที่แล้ว

    How hard can it be these days for a another company to let the cadmium-free oilcolour analyse by an labarotory?🤔

  • @RobertJonesWightpaint
    @RobertJonesWightpaint 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Secret shmeekret - if a company won't tell me what's in their paint, I'm not buying it. By the way, separaration of oil from pigment is not a bad thing nor an indication of cheapness (if that's what you said: my hearing issues are challenged by your microphone and possibly by the up and down nature of your voice). You'll find that Rublev paints also separate, but that's because they don't use fillers.

  • @phillipstroll7385
    @phillipstroll7385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is more cadmium in baby food. The human liver is designed to remove cadmium from our system. So there is no reason whatsoever to avoid cadmium paint.

    • @CallyKariShokka
      @CallyKariShokka  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ...So what you're saying is, A: Avoid baby food, and B: Eat the oil paint. Gotcha!

    • @keepyourshoesathedoor
      @keepyourshoesathedoor ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm, our body needs iron but we still can get iron poisoning. Everything is great in moderation.
      Plus, the chemical formula for baby food may be different than the actual paint chemical formula and may react to the body differently.

    • @phillipstroll7385
      @phillipstroll7385 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keepyourshoesathedoor you're right. It's more toxic in baby food. Guess that goes to show us, most people are sheep. Just as Edward Bernays said when the government came to him asking him how to mass control the population. He said it is easy because people are more predictable than animals. Just pay someone prettier, happier, wealthier than the common man and they'll follow what he says blindly. Congress ordered televisions be made inexpensive enough to be put in every household. People rather repeat what they hear than actually learn the science. Even when they have the wealth of the world's information in the palm of their hands and a PhD telling them. Now that's wilful ignorance at its finest.
      Imbeciles

    • @RobertJonesWightpaint
      @RobertJonesWightpaint 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cadmium-free is just a gimmick: the company thought that risk-averse yet scientifically unaware people would be frightened by using metal-based paints, so they saw a marketing opportunity and just re-labelled pyrrole red (probably) as cadmium-free cadmium red. Well, companies have to survive, and to do that they have to maximize profits in a competitive industry: but - that's no good reason to be taken in by it.