[Insitum Verbum] Monoenergism - The Ancient Heresy Reformers Gave New Life

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  • I am re uploading all of Insitum Verbum's videos that got removed from his channel for some reason. He stopped uploading two years ago and I did not want his work to disappear from TH-cam.
    In this clip ‪@JayDyer‬ speaks on how the Reformers' monergism is an outworking of monoenergism, which was already addressed at the 6th council & by St. Maximus. The Reformers resurrected this ancient heresy and it still plagues us today.
    All credit goes to ‪@InsitumVerbum‬ for the production of these clips/videos.
    In the meantime, enjoy.
    source: EawLZTrI8FI
    original source: • Top 9 Ancient Cults & ...

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  • @andys3035
    @andys3035 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Glad you're keeping these video's alive.

  • @SonofTiamat
    @SonofTiamat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'm still new to this, but I've noticed that Catholics will disingenuously make the same arguments as unitarians. Oh, you believe in a distinction between essence and energy? You're a polytheist. Now excuse me while I pray to various saints

    • @carlpittenger
      @carlpittenger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      they are wrong to assume that distinction entails composition or division, but i don't see how them praying to saints is a defeater; they would affirm a worship/veneration distinction just like us

    • @SonofTiamat
      @SonofTiamat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@carlpittenger I'm not saying it's a defeater, necessarily. Just that their arguments are unitarian arguments dialed down at 5. Unitarian arguments are the same actus purus arguments but dialed up to 11

    • @SeventyFour-e9i
      @SeventyFour-e9i 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why dont you spend your time showing people how to do Spiritual warfare against demons instead of ripping on Christians

    • @YeshuaIsTheTruth
      @YeshuaIsTheTruth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SeventyFour-e9i You're ripping on a Christian for objecting to a heretical practice. He is fighting demons, while you're covering for them. Stop it.

    • @YeshuaIsTheTruth
      @YeshuaIsTheTruth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@carlpittenger Here's a defeater. In Catholicism, you cannot be saved unless Mary intercedes for your salvation, but this isn't found in Paul's writings or in the Gospels.
      "If one comes to you preaching another Gospel than that which we [Apostles] have preached to you, let them be accursed (anathema)".

  • @richardconn6965
    @richardconn6965 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Luke 22:42 saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.”

  • @chanano1689
    @chanano1689 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So I am a bit loss. Reformed folk categorically deny monoenergism. We believe that Christ had to wills, and one was submissive to the other. However, I do think that Protestants make a distinction between the humanity of Christ and that of the fallen nature of man. In a Reform point of view, Jay's characterization is really poor. We believe that God, through the means of Grace, regenerates the fallen man to be more like Christ. That is we have a will (that of the fallen man), but under grace, we are being sanctified by God, that is God working in us to make us more like God.

  • @etheretherether
    @etheretherether 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What's the book Jay was waving around at the beginning? Is that just a different printing of Cosmic Mystery without the blue cover?

  • @BaronEvola123
    @BaronEvola123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It couldn't be any other way. The idea that man can attain synergy with the divine negates the cross.

    • @anond2015
      @anond2015 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, the Cross makes way for man to attain synergy with the Divine. That's the whole point of Jesus.

  • @Ls400cripper
    @Ls400cripper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Only with a synergistic theology, someone would claim such thing...
    Romans 3:10-12
    As it is written:
    “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands;there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless;
    there is no one who does good, not even one.”
    There's no way you could say you are searching for God... Scripture says you are death in your transgressions & sins.
    God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions.
    Does Regeneration precede Faith or does Faith precede Regeneration???

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is precisely what is expected from us - to show off, by our free will, our desire to start salvation process. God does not force Himself upon anyone. God is knocking on the door of our heart, but it is on us to open the door and let Him in.

    • @davidmansfield1796
      @davidmansfield1796 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No one righteous?
      Zachariah and Elizabeth are righteous Luke 1,5_6.

    • @Ls400cripper
      @Ls400cripper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidmansfield1796 You have here a very interesting couple, Zacharias and Elisabeth, a priest with a wife. I have often marveled why the Church of Rome should think it wrong that priests should be married, when it is evident that the priests under the law were so. The priests had grown so numerous that there was not room for them all to work at the Temple at one time; they were divided into twenty-four courses, and Zacharias would, therefore, come up to Jerusalem for a fortnight to take his share of the service. Zacharias and Elisabeth were notable for excellence of character: «They were both righteous before God.» Not only did they stand high in the esteem of men, but the great God, who reads the hearts of all, and sees how they live in secret, reckoned them to be righteous: «They were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments»-that is, in the moral precepts of the law-«and ordinances»-that is in the ceremonial rites-« of the Lord blameless.»

  • @airpodman1259
    @airpodman1259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Full vid?

    • @carlpittenger
      @carlpittenger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Top 9 Ancient Cults & Heresies That Are BACK!

    • @airpodman1259
      @airpodman1259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@saint-jiub 🙌🏼🙌🏼