I had a cop knock on my door and ask if he could come in. I said, "no", and he said is there some reason why he can't? I said because he wasn't invited to come in. He then asked me if there was some reason why my car was backed into my driveway to which I responded yes then remained silent. "Care to share what the reason is"? No, but thanks for asking. After some mumbling about search warrants, I told him to get one if he could and come back with it. He finally left and I found out later my neighbor reported me for an expired tag which turned out to be completely untrue. They will try anything to get inside your house but don't let them come in.
Three things you do when dealing with cops.... 1. Record them 2. Order them to give you their names and badge numbers 3. State your rights - I don't answer questions, I don't consent to searches, I want my lawyer, am I free to go?
@@livery955 if they do then they will face a lawsuit under title 18 section 242 'deprivation of civil rights under color of law.' Which can result in not only three but any other officer involved being fired and possibly sent to prison for minimum of one year...Kim potters conviction is going to make convicting cops way more easier to hold cops accountable and its about time too...
yep, that is a great way to have very annoyed police on you, so if even the smallest thing is not ok with you, you will get the full wrath of the system.
@@livery955 then that's destruction of private property, tampering with evidence, and 4th amendment violations under Turner v driver and hook v cunnifee. Hope that cop likes prison.
@@thorin1045 if the cops get annoyed over people citing their rights, then they can face the wrath of complaints and lawsuits. Contrary to popular belief it's easy to get the cops fired and sue the police..more lawsuits the better ..I guarantee the first time the cops unlawfully detain/ arrest you, you'll be back here supporting the cause.
I can’t multitask so I will say “just a minute” while I get my stuff (license and reg). Thanks for this! I never answer the door unless I am expecting someone.
I had a friendly cop randomly drive up onto my secluded property once. He was all smiles and nice until I informed him that he was trespassing. He didn't like me asking "didnt you see the no trespassing signs all the way up the driveway?" He turned around and carried his ass. Even though it was a pain in the ass, I started locked the gate, even when I was home. I lived in a secluded area for a reason (people get on my damn nerves).
A response that seems to work when confronted with this is: “I don’t answer questions.” Chances are they will come back with; “why not?” and you say “I don’t answer questions.”
I tend to lead them on a wild goose chase(conversationally). I have a lot of experience in mindless conversation. Oh, and I make it a point to know my local officials
The one I love, is when a citizen is genuinely ignorant to a particular obscure laws existence, but that notion is met with “ignorance of the laws is no excuse.” But yet, time & time again, as I have even experienced personally, when a leo is ignorant to some of the very laws they’re sworn to uphold & enforce, the same notion doesn’t apply in any way whatsoever, to them.
There's actually a court case allowing police to constitutionally make an arrest for an infraction that is not a jailable offense, but is only punishable by a fine (Atwater v. City of Lago Vista, 532 U.S. 318, 121 S.Ct. 1536, 149 L.Ed.2d 549 (2001)). One of the justices reasoned, basically, that police cannot be expected to know the law. I always thought that was nuts. Civilians are expected to know every law, even though that's pretty much impossible, but law enforcement officers are not expected to know the law, even though they are tasked with enforcing the law. I once asked a cop if TASERs are legal in L.A., and he got on his phone to Google it. Another Supreme Court case held that it is Constitutional to strip-search anyone taken to jail, even if the offense gives no indication that someone is hiding dangerous items. So the Supreme Court has said that it's constitutional for police to arrest you for a seat belt violation (like happened in the Atwater case) and then strip-search you. It's shameful, in my opinion. Note that this is just what is constitutional under federal law - a lot of things may restrain police from doing this stuff, such as state constitutions, local police practice regulations, and other laws. Also, I haven't re-visited this lately, so maybe something has changed since around 2010 when I last looked at this issue closely.
there's a good scene in the old Walking Tall sequel where Buford Pusser charges everyone in the court for not tying down their vehicles, (a law that was meant for horses).
they intentionally dont teach us the laws of our country so they always ahve a steead flow of profit. most guberments are for profit not for the people, specially the us guberment lol
Ignorance of the law is no excuse is what they all say. And then when you are trying to understand the laws, they discount you by calling you an internet lawyer.
@@dakotagreg1177 yup, but this internet lawyer has an easy time dealing wwith the guberment cause their wording in laws matter and as long aas you know that wording you can use it to your advantage... thats what they really hate about us, we can get around the red tape they never will hahaha
My husband (now ex) had been charged with brandishing a weapon on the neighbor's son. I was sitting at the kitchen table with the window open. The police came up to the window and were making small talk, asking about the craft that I was working on and asking where did I work and did I like my job. I was okay with answering their questions, but then they began asking about my husband's various firearms. From the window, the police could see a collection of locked gun safes (small boxes). They asked me if that was what those were or not. I smiled and said, "I'm going to call my lawyer now." I started to close the window. The younger police officer had put her hand on my window and told me, "if you close the window, we cannot help you. You could lose your job because of your husband's actions." I smiled again and asked her to let go of my window, I am going to call my lawyer and share that bit of news that you told me." I was informed that she was wrong, but. I just closed my window. Called my lawyer, and he could hear them pounding on my door threatening to kick it in. He told me to stay on the phone and pretend that I am talking to him. He left his office and showed up at my place. He informed them that he recorded their conversations and looks forward to seeing them in court. They took off. The city settled out of court.
I was being investigated by the police (for something I didn't do). A police detective showed up at my door and wanted to ask me some questions. I told him he would need to ask all questions through my attorney. He then asked who my attorney was. I responded "I can't answer that. I just told you that you need ask my attorney." And then I closed and locked the door. That was five years ago. I never heard from the police again.
@Logan Wolv By taking that action, I invoked my 5th Amendment and 6th Amendment rights. Of course, the police could continue investigating on their own. But they could not do anything more with me in the investigation without violating my constitutional rights. The only thing they could do was arrest me if they managed to gather enough evidence and/or witnesses. Obviously the police didn’t find anything they could use against me because I never heard anything about it again.
@@LucidDreamer54321 I had a similar situation happen to me. They would even root through my trash. The evidence they supposedly had to arrest and finger print me was an empty gettoblaster box lmao that my GFs mom had bought for herself at the time lmfao It was truly pathetic but funny at the same time! Both my GFs mom and myself basically told the detective to gtfo! It's been 14 years and they haven't contacted me since!
One 4th of July some friends and I were lighting firecrackers off in my driveway which were illegal at the time. So later that night the cops showed up saying they got a call someone was lighting fireworks off there. My father said " nope not here officer" and the cop said "ok thanks" and waded through the firecracker papers in my driveway to get back to his car and left. :-P
Be careful with this one. Depending on how and why we arrived at the home for a welfare check we might be within our authority to force entry without a warrant if you say the wrong thing. Nobody wants that. You or us. In my opinion, the best thing to say is "Thank you for checking on us but we're fine." If we say that we have to check on someone specifically, it is possible that the particular circumstances are present that we will have to force entry if we don't get to speak to them. Again, nobody wants that, including us. In my opinion, the best thing to do in this case is have the person step to the door. Particularly if the person we're checking on is a woman or a child, and you who answered the door is a man, I would suggest resisting the urge to aggressively "take charge of the situation". You, of course, are nothing more than a law abiding citizen who is legally and righteously standing on your 4th amendment guarantees, and that is both proper, and commendable. But please do try to keep in mind that we've been to plenty of houses where the abuser attempts to use force and intimidation to keep the victims from speaking to us. Since that's not you, it's probably best to call the person to the door and let them tell us. Most of the time we don't need to come in and they don't need to come out.
@@reilleymalcom With due respect, no a welfare check can not just turn into a warrantless search. See SCOTUS decision in Caniglia v. Strom. As of this ruling you will need some sort of exigence, or cause under community care taking. The court did give examples of when community care taking would apply. But simply because an officer wants to do a search is no longer one of them. The case was about a man who agreed to a mental health check, then the police went into his home seized his firearms, violating his 4th amendment rights so says SCOTUS. No the courts are very liberal with cops on what is community care taking and exigence. So a given situation would be necessary to know.
During an encounter with a police officer, if there is no reasonable expectation that the person confronted by the officer is likely to use their cell phone as a weapon (the confronted person while takeing out /activateing the cell phone to record audio &/or video specifies their intention to record the interaction for documenting the event) is it legal for the officer to ensure the person does not record?
@@usspaul9422 No, courts have upheld that there's no right to privacy in public and you're free to record police so long as you're not physically impeding what they're doing
then you probably know that PIGS consistently harass law abiding citizens in order to avoid doing real dangerous work such as rounding up MS13 gang members in my community. its much safer to harass me on my way to work than bother the gang members in the community.
The police can be really obvious with their attempts to get you to open up to them. I pulled in to a 7/11 parking lot one evening, I don't know why the police were called but as soon as I got out of my car I was questioned by a female officer. I don't recall how the questioning started but she tried to make conversation and said "there's nothing like that first hit on a crack pipe", as if she was a drug user herself and that would get me to open up to her and let my guard down. I've never smoked crack but it was such a ham-fisted attempt at manipulation I couldn't let it slide, I asked her, "does that work?" She turned a bit red and dropped the, "hey I'm cool, we can talk" act. It was really dumb but maybe she used that line before and someone actually fell for it.
Is it terrible that since my son was able to speak I told him to never speak to the police. I always told him if the police start talking to him to tell them he wants his dad and not to say anything else. So when my son was 8 , in school, they had a dare program and the officer tried to speak to my son, and the school called me in because my son demanded my presence. Good boy!
God why the fuck do they waste money on the DARE programs anyway? They don't work and all it does is make it so kids know that cops will fuck them over at the nearest suspicion of being high.
@@techhelpwizardgenie3146 "DARE is the reason I started smoking weed" I can almost hear the bleating of sheep. You made your choice because someone else made a choice.
That's not 100% true. In minor situations, you can often talk your way out of an arrest. But you can also talk your way into one. But if you are brought down to the station for questioning, you need to ask for a lawyer and not say anything further until you have one. This is the rule of thumb I follow when it comes to talking to a police. Is this something that is likely to lead to me getting arrested? If answering a few questions or flashing my ID will settle the matter, I will go ahead and do that. But if it's something serious enough to be worth risking spending a day or two in jail for, don't say anything. For instance, you spend a night in jail for not cooperating with the police while you wait for your attorney to get you out of a situation that could get you put away for the next 20 years. Sometimes getting arrested is completely worth it. Sometimes it's not.
@@TerryProthero There's no way you can talk your way out of an arrest. An arrest is not a minor situation. Go watch "Don't talk to the police" by professor James Duane. In his lecture, he gives half the time to a detective who says that in his decades long career not one suspect has ever talked their way out of an arrest. Oh and the detective also says he "100% agrees with everything that the professor said". If the cops are teaching their kids to never talk to the police (unless ofc youre a witness to a crime and such situations, use your brain), then why should you? The only person you should open up to is your lawyer. The detective is a professional. The lawyer is a professional who is the only person on your side. You are so hopelessly outmatched that you dont even realize it, even if youre smart. Even if you speak nothing but the truth, and 100% universal truth, and are 100% innocent, you could still implicate yourself for the simple reason that you dont know what the cops know. To arrest someone you need probable cause. Probable cause doesnt come that easy. If youre arrested, youre not talking your way out of it. You might mistake detainment for arrest. Its possible to talk your way out of being detained, but its still unlikely. Better to just zip it after invoking the 5th.
Several years ago my neighbor's house was burglarized. A cop showed up at my door to ask if we'd heard anything. We hadn't. He then demanded ID then when I stepped away to get my wallet he entered my home uninvited and actually turned his flashlight on to look around my darkened dining room. I got annoyed and asked what the hell he thinks he's doing. He said he 'just wanted to clear me as a suspect.' My neighbor who'd approached me earlier had told me whoever was responsible entered and left over his six foot tall fence. I looked at the cop from my WALKER and said "Seriously?" Then I asked him to leave and thankfully he did. Pissed me off to the extreme.
Years ago a lawyer friend told me about that exact type of behavior. He said anytime the cops come to your door, even if you called them, step outside and close the door behind you. They will try to find their way in. Even a cracked door will allow them to "see something" or "smell something" that gives them cause to enter your home. Cops arrest people. That is literally their job. So if you are a people, you need to always be on guard around cops if you don't want to be arrested. Also, like in the video, just don't answer the door. I never answer my door unless the person calls or texts me that they are at my door. There is no law requiring you answer when the cops knock.
@@PhilLesh69 When I lived up north I worked at 7-11 doing mostly 3rd shift. I knew every cop. I drank at cop bars. We got along. I move down here to Florida and shit's WAY different. I had never had a cop try and snake his way into my home. I am a night owl and used to go hit the 24hr pharmacies for the start of some sales. One night around 3:00am I'm driving home and I get pulled over. Get the 'License, registration, proof of insurance' request with NO explanation why I'm being pulled over. We sat there for easily 20 minutes. Me listening to the radio, him doing cop things in his cop car. He walks back up holding my paperwork but not handing it to me and asks "What are you doing out at this time of night?' and I'd had it. I kinda snapped asked "Is there a curfew I didn't know about? Are you my parent? Otherwise I'm an adult citizen, not breaking any laws and out in my car because I feel like it. So what's the issue, officer?!" He shoves my papers at me and says "You've got a plate light out, I could ticket you but I'm letting you off with a warning. Then he stormed off in a fucking huff.
@@water2wine1 Fairly self explanatory. Walgreens, CVS, etc. start their weekly sales at 3:00am on Wednesdays. They're open 24hrs a day. They're also pharmacies. I would want items on sale so get there the moment it started so stuff was in stock. Simple.
@@Idiotboxxx Cool, I'll remember that when Tim who is just minding himself at home get blasted because the cop got the wrong address and "feared for his life" thus is completely immune from consequence.
They aren't supposed to protect you. They're supposed to protect the government's money which sometimes means you. They're literally a state sponsored mob.
Some people are completely paranoid for no legitimate reason. Or maybe it's legitimate because they are criminals. But I talk to the police all the time and have never been arrested for anything. But if I was potentially being accused of a serious crime or if I was brought down to the police station for questioning, I would ask for an attorney and exercise my right to remain silent. At that point, it's really not worth talking to the police.
One time something fell inside my neighbor's house and broke out one of their bedroom windows. Everyone that lived in the house next door was home when it happened but my other neighbor who calls the cops on everyone for the silliest of things called the cops and said there had been a break in or something. The police came onto my porch and just demanded that I come outside. I was busy playing in an online poker tournament so I just "no thanks I don't feel like talking right now". He tried to scare me into coming outside so I ended up calling the police on him and saying "There is an armed and aggressive man on my porch who is refusing to leave. please send someone to get this psycho off my property". I tried to press tresspassing charges but they wouldn't do it. I told his supervisor I wanted to press charges because he was such an ass and tried intimidating me into coming outside when we both knew I didn't have to.
When I was 16 I was hanging out outside of a 24 hour laundromat that was across the street from my apartment , which I worked very hard for with crap pay . Anyway cops roll up on me and start demanding that I empty my pockets , I asked for what reason , they didn't give one so I said " have a good night " and turned to go into the laundromat to check on my laundry . Next I know I'm bent over the cop car and they are ripping through my pockets , they find a butterfly knife that was only good for cutting string and cleaning my nails on breaks at work . So they charge me with a class E misdemeanor weapons charge for having a " gravity knife " , but in upstate NY butterfly knives are not considered gravity knives due to the steps needed to expose the blade and lock the handle . So illegal search and seizure and a false charge , I sit in jail 2 months , the judge wanted to try me as an adult for " knowingly committing a crime as an adult " and bump the charge up to a felony weapons charge . The court appointed idiot would not listen to me when I handed him the copy of the ruling from 1962 stating htat a butterfly knife is not illegal in NY and therefore I did nothing wrong , and insisted that I take the deal of 3 years probation and time served for the 2 months in jail . Also lost my laundry and my apartment in the process , so I walked out of jail homeless . The legal system is a shit show in this country
any why were you not allowed bail... what did you leave out of the story... NOBODY goes to jail for a class E MISDEMEANOR or for ANY misdemeanor... What is the rest of the story here... Nothing adds up!
@@erhimc I didn't leave anything out of the story ... and yes , I did go to jail for a class E misdemeanor , I did not have the money for bail and neither did anyone that I know .. I was 16
@@jdsartre9520 I'm 41 ... frankly my life , it's been crazy , it's been fun , it's been fucking terrible ... honestly , nothing to write home about ... a lot of couch surfing , sleeping outside in all weather ... sure I've stories to tell .. but I don't know if any were worth it
Actually the problem is that they are likely bored. If you are a boring person doing nothing wrong and cops are talking to you they have nothing better to do.
When cops are bored they will write people tickets. During the day any minor thing that you get pulled over for will get you a ticket. That is because they are bored.
I'll pick one nit with that: the advice was not "..on the advice of my lawyer", because that tells them you have a lawyer, which can just lead to more questions, like "what do you have a lawyer for?". The advice was "A lawyer friend of mine told me never to talk to police." This, as he points out, is indisputable, and gives them nowhere to go.
From watching countless auditing and cop watching videos it has become apparent that the one question most police don't like to answer (on camera at least!) and will skirt and deflect and point blank refuse to answer is, "Am I free to leave?/ Am I being detained?"
Even if you don't incriminate yourself, talking at all may open the door, I do not consent to this contact. Did you take an oath to protect my constitutional rights or was that pre-lies training?
Back during the 50s a police officer went to my grandmothers home accusing one of her sons of mischief within the neighborhood. She told the cop that her son was sick and spent the day in bed, which was true. The officer didn't believe her so she took a broom handle and started to beat his rear end with it. She chased the cop down the road and eventually knocked his hat off of his head with the broom. The next day the sheriff showed up at her place to question what happened. She told him that his officer was being rude and called her a liar. So she gave him a licking. Then she said, "Oh, and here's his hat." The Sheriff laughed and said, "He got what he deserved. Next time he'll learn to be more polite with people." Those were the good old days. LOL
As long as officer is wearing that uniform and badge, he is on duty and that means EVERY word that he says is designed to interrogate you. NEVER make small talk with police officers, they are not your friends and they don't care about "how you're doing". They want to use any little excuse to charge you and/or arrest you. That's it.
If the cops show up at your door *and you didn't call them,* just don't answer the door; you have no legal obligation to answer the door for ANYONE! If the cops had the authority to enter your house without your permission, they wouldn't bother knocking - they'd simply break in.
Cops do get the wrong house on occasion, so they're still good for breaking in even when they don't have permission. That's why it's prudent to keep armor-piercing ammunition nearby at all times. :D
When I was in highschool one of my friends threw a party and it ended up relatively big about 15 or so people. Neighbors called in a noise complaint. Police show up and knock on the door my friend was talking to the police through the door and telling them to go and we'll lower the volume. The police kicked the door in and next thing I know 4 cops come barging in and tackle my friend to the floor put him in handcuffs. They rounded the rest of us up and had 2 cops in the backyard that caught a couple of my friends trying to run lined us up against the wall gave us all a breathalyzer test and wrote us all up for mip and drove us home. My friend later told me the police claimed he let them in even though we had pictures of the busted door frame. Was pretty messed up. This was a small town where nothing happens and pretty sure the cops got a high off of kicking in peoples doors and busting parties. Sadly this all happened before everyone had a camera in their pockets.
@pl m Voters and political activists have not sworn an oath.....Choosing a new master every 4 years is kind of ignorant though.....And trying to get rid of our rights can be considered warring against the people and the country.....
During quarantine, squatters moved in next door. When I called the cops, they told me that, since nobody answered when they knocked and the house looked secure, that they were unable to act. I asked, "So, all I have to do is not answer the door when you come and you can't do anything?" He did not answer, which I took as silent consent.
THE number one police excuse to challenge ANYONE: "We got a call". So here they are, pursuing their "call". They're implying a "right" to interrogate you. Your right is to remain silent. "My lawyer friend advised me not to answer questions. Have a nice day/evening." Leave as soon as you are able. If they persist, and say you're being detained . . . they don't have to tell you why or what their "reasonable suspicion" is. This can be VERY frustrating, especially when you're innocent and being harassed. THIS HAPPENED: An over-eager local detective "got a call" from someone 3,000 miles away after they were "offended" by my comment on Facebook. This poor individual requested a "wellness check" to mess with me, and the detective happily obliged to flex his power/authority. He knocks on the door asking for me personally, and a family member lets him in. Now, standing in my house, he starts peering around to gather visual "suspicion". I ask him why he's stopping by to visit . . . "we got a call". I learned about "the call" by diffusing the situation however . . . There have been deadly encounters with local police when internet psychos call in false reports of domestic violence with "active shooter" language . . . called being "S.W.A.T.-ED". Depending on the department, you may be in serious trouble as they need to save face for over-reacting to getting "a call".
What fascinated me is this: .. Officer Answers Phone: "Hello? Officer Smith. What can I help you with?" Anonymous Caller: "There's a guy...he's got a gun. I think he may be getting ready to do something bad. Well. It LOOKED like a gun, under his coat. He's at [location]" Officer: "We're on it! Stay where you are and do not engage!" .. Citizen Waiting for Uber: "Sirens...huh..." Officers Rush In: "You! Stay where you are! Who are you? Give us ID!" Citizen: "What? I was waiting for an uber to pick me up. What's this about?" Officer: "Don't move! Hands on your head. We got a call... that someone had a gun and was threatening to use it on people. We're investigating and you look suspicious" Citizen: "I just walked out of the restaurant 30 seconds before you got here....it's not me" Officer: "LIAR!!!! LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!" ;) .. Cops will believe EVERYTHING you tell them over the phone. If you are face to face with them, it's the opposite. They believe NOTHING you tell them. .. I blame this phenomenon on two things: ONE: They are trained and taught... "You are who people call when they are in trouble. Believe what the person on the phone is saying, because you aren't there. If it sounds strange, so be it. You are there to help THEM and keep them calm" .. TWO: "They are trained and taught (every morning at role call...)... "You are dealing with potential murderers, psychopaths and terrorists. Don't believe the person you are dealing with. They may be just waiting for you to let down your guard so they can KILL YOU! Don't become a statistic! Take them down and restrain them BEFORE they can kill you!" .. Ergo... Phone = True/Safe .... In Person = Lies/Unsafe
@@hueowen2786 Better yet... don't be on Facebook. Or Twitter. Or Instagram. Or...well... you get the picture. If you want to be really careful (and both confuse and annoy people, especially government and LEO's)...don't own a cell phone. .. For me? Yes to those except TH-cam here; oh, and I *think* I signed up for Instagram years and years ago...but never 'validated' or used it because, well...I don't have a cell phone. .. :)
"We got a call about somebody matching your description" is a popular one they use out on the street when they want to check you out. I've seen it used on homeless people on several occasions out in LA and it happened to my brother and I while we were getting into the car in a Walmart parking lot in the outlying area of Hacienda Heights. They ran our ID and made us empty our pockets and everything.
@@psy2mentor Yup...another case of the courts "turning a blind eye", so to speak. .. They (courts/judges) would never let a citizen get away with "Well, I was pretty sure it was my neighbour, because the description I was given by a stranger described who he saw...and that fits my neighbour"... and accept that as actual evidence and nothing else. .. Because that's what happens: LEO's abuse citizens Constitutional Rights... "but it's ok, because they had a description that mostly fit you that they got from a stranger". .. When a cop is "detaining you... LAWFULLY", you need to do on set of specific things: remain there, and give ID/name/birthday. That's it. You probably (I think this may be a State by State thing?) must also allow a 'pat down' for them to check for weapons. .. You do NOT have to say a WORD to them and they have NO right to search you, your backpack, your car, your pockets, or even the container of grandma's lasagna you are taking to a friend. If they try and tell you to "empty your pockets"...don't. That's an "illegal search/seizure". Don't do their job for them. They are looking for ANYTHING that they can claim was "illegal or gave the impression of a crime being committed"...like a wadded up ball of lint. "We thought it was a piece of Crack, your honour. So that gave us probably cause".
About 30 years ago my friend's grandfather was dealing with the Seattle Police department there were some troublemaker kids in the neighborhood who would often claim that other people had done things they were responsible for. One night when the kids had been home because three of them were sick out of four kids some police knocked on the door claiming that his kids had been out throwing eggs to what she said that was not true because they were sick and they had only just finished up dinner. My friend's grandfather was talking to them through the screen door with it locked they asked him if he had been drinking and wanted him to step out onto the front porch to talk with them and of course he knew that was a trap so he stayed inside. I get that in law enforcement sometimes it can be beneficial to do these things but a vast majority of the time it isn't and innocent until proven guilty is very important I'm so sick of authority being abused
@@billjoe39 if there is a fire in my house I'll be able to figure that out for myself. I have seen fire. I actually have an incredible smoke detector system in my house. A deaf person can hear it when it's going off. I just had to change them all not too long ago. They're hardwired to each other with battery back up. The works. So if one goes off they all go off. Was a pain in the ass to dispose of the old detectors. I had to send them away.
"i would make a video but mine would just be me not talking so pretty short." or maybe just write it down and show them. im a law...liar dont make me have to make a citizens arrest"
Good lord, great video. Cops arrested me for drunk in public while treating a dude who passed out from cheap vodka. I'm a biochemist and a nurse, but talked too much after questioned by the police and was arrested for treating *my* patient. After some distance, asked the EMTs what his pulse-oxygen level was, got my arm locked and cuffs on. Thanks mate. A million times, thanks.
A friend of mine didn't open the door, and said thru the door "I think you have the wrong apartment". They broke down the door, grabbed her, and took her to the hospital psyche ward. She found out later that another friend had called them and asked them to do a wellness check, because she wasn't answering her phone.
@@merrymata2547 the comment sounds very extreme without any reasonable reasoning, police knocks the door, person says "wrong house", bang the door is broken and now the person is in a psych ward just cuz they weren't answering their phone and a friend called the police just cuz of that
I don't believe you LOL Because I've personally met MANY cops that don't want to bother doing unnecessary paper work that will end up embarrassing them if it's over nothing or something too small... If they're trying to pin something small on someone, it's because it makes it easier to catch them doing bigger things later. It is extremely hard to investigate someone who's never had any record before... so putting things on there just opens the door to catch more criminals.
@@pieRana It may be about showing results. It has become a problem over here when the police concentrate on easily solvable petty crimes while ignoring the complicated serious ones since they get a better statistic of solved cases. I can definitely see them trying to snare people for stuff no one really care about. Besides real criminals are more often armed and dangerous.
This reminds me of the time a cop "engaged" me in conversation. I'd just alighted from the bus and was walking to the bank. In front of the bank were two youths sitting handcuffed on the curb as police milled about them. I had no intentions of getting involved in the situation. However, one cop noticed me as I tried to walk past the area. He smiled and remarked some nonsense about withdrawing some extra funds for him. Of course, with my being black, he was fishing for signs of complicity. I placed my hands on my hips and asked, "what's going on?" Allowing my jacket to open and my *U.S. State Dept.* badge to appear. He stopped with the inquiries, made some inconsequential remarks, and I continued on to my business with the bank.
@@BrightBlueJim Lol...Actually, the lesson is City and State employees are reluctant interact with Federal employees the way they would with everyday citizens. They assume we know both city and federal laws. And that federal rights *trump cards* city laws every time.
@@thequietrevolution3404 Ah, you haven't been to the People's Republic of Oregon, then. In Portland, they told the federal "Homeland Security" forces to get the hell out of their town.
Unfortunately, when interacting with law enforcement, you are at their whim. The defense of your rights occur in a courtroom, long after law enforcement has their way with you. You best bet is record the incident via video/audio so that proof of any abuse of power can be used in court for a settlement. I wish people would pressure local news outlets to tally up the number of settlements your city/town pays out yearly on behalf of the police. That's when you will see change occur.
But its tough to defend your rights in court if you don't invoke them when dealing with the police. Video is no substitute for the Bill of Rights. And keep in mind, that same video can be used against you, as prosecutors craft their own narrative.
@@bunkyman8097 Not much to record if you invoke your 5th Amendment rights. Most people think that by recording they are righteous, so they jabber to cops and incriminate themselves.
🚫 Yes, and unfortunately our basic rights are under assault like never before, by the democratic party and their communications department(ie. the "news" media). Radical leftist Democrat prosecutors and DA's are routinely refusing to prosecute actual violent criminals, releasing them back onto the streets! Even when they do file charges, they often release violent suspects with little to no bail! But in the meantime, democrats are now involved in political prosecutions of innocent people, just for defending themselves against the violent felons that these same prosecutors keep releasing! They and other radical leftists are now promoting the notion that due process is a bad thing, and that we shouldn't have the right to due process! Some claim that a when person is allowed to defend himself in court, with due process, that equals "white privilege"! They obviously want a system where they merely make arbitrary accusations, and the person should be "proclaimed" guilty based on politically motivated narratives, NOT FACTS OR EVIDENCE!!
"We don't have to be jerks when flexing our rights"- That's one of the best, and most often overlooked, pieces of advice. All the rights in the world might be on one's side, but just like any other situation in life, being a jerk and antagonizing the officer just seems to make matters worse, as seen in so many videos. There are 'alpha' type cops that politeness is wasted on, but usually polite while firm is the best way to go.
Some of the best advice. In the present climate of FTP and lack of respect for LEO's, we have to keep in mind they are prepared for a life and death battle at every interchange. Know and exercise your rights, but do it in a calm civil manner. A face full of mace and a taser is not a fun ride.
Correct. The police are very fragile. I saw a video of the police in an unmarked car blocking the street. Some guy driving behind them honked. The police lost their minds on the guy. How was he to know they were the police? They finally let the guy go when he called his mother (also a police officer).
@@Andrewflusche The problem is that a lot of police think that exercising your rights cordially is being an aggressive, uncooperative, jerk. I simply don't talk to police, ever.
Don't ever come to the door unless you invited someone in advance. Most likely it would be salesmen who will try to sale you something you don't need. It could be robbers who would rob or kill you. It could be the police who would arrest or kill you. In all cases you might lose your time or money or your life. Just ignore it. If someone really needs to contact you they can phone you, or send you a mail or email.
The problem is that they very often retaliate. I refused ID to a random cop stopping me on the sidewalk. I "looked suspicious" apparently. That is actually correct as I'm autistic and stop and stare at random things I think look neat. I just said "leave me alone I'm not comfortable with strangers". He followed me to my car. A little way down the road I was pulled over and sat for 45 minutes until he finally came back with my ID and said it would have been easier if I'd just complied in the first place. Now I'm worried I'm in the system as a "trouble maker to be concerned about" possibly.
No worries. He will get his eventually. what Goes around comes around. Karma Is called a bitch for a reason. Only happens to bitches. And yeah. He will get his. All u got to do is lay back and chill. Life will get him. So easy does it. I hate em. Even tho my bro was a police officer..he never abused his position like alot of these weak minded life rapists do.. so try not to stress too much. Ain't worth it. That fukn cop ain't worth any stress..
@@WardenWolf Unfortunately, in many areas it is legal to make a pretext stop (these might be legal everywhere - I'm not going to research exceptions). A pretext stop happens when a police officer pulls you over for a minor traffic violation, but is looking for other evidence that a crime has been committed. Even more unfortunately, the traffic laws in most states allow police to ticket you for the most minor of infractions, such as going one mph above the speed limit, not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, and a bunch of stuff that is up to the discretion of the officer. For instance, I was once pulled over for a seatbelt violation - we were all wearing our seatbelts, but good luck proving that, and even if you do prove it, the officer can just say he or she made an honest mistake. We had driven around that town with no issues, until we took a Mexican guy for a drive, because he was interested in purchasing that car. I didn't get a ticket, but he had a lot of questions for the Mexican fellow sitting in the backseat. In Whren v. United States (1996), the SCOTUS said this is perfectly Constitutional, although some state constitutions may say otherwise. The best tactic is probably to just sit down and wait, or walk away and NOT get in your vehicle. If you do walk away, be mindful not to violate some stupid law like spitting on the sidewalk, loitering, or jaywalking. It's a sad state of affairs, and we desperately need reform in the criminal justice system. The U.S. imprisons more people than Stalin did.
“I need to see some ID.” “Let me ask you, do you always carry ID on you?” “Of course I do” “Well then, you are free to look at yours any time you feel the ‘need’ to see ID.” 😁
Is that what you need? Do you only care about your own needs? What about my needs? Do you care about my needs? What if I really need 100 bucks right now? Why are you delaying me from lawfully obtaining money that I may need? Are you going to reimburse me for my time wasted talking to you?
Thank you for this, I consider it a Public Service Announcement! After nearly getting sentenced because I believed in cops I learned the truth! Now 20 years later I tell it to my sons and I show this to them from you! Police are not the friendly caretakers of the public they pretend to be, your words of wisdom are appreciated. THANK YOU!!
I had an experience where the police came to my door when my brother and I were home alone, I did not open it for about 5 minutes but they kept knocking. I opened it and turned out my apartment building was on fire. My dog jumped all over the officer and I think he was annoyed but thank god I checked.
I am legitimately mostly deaf in my left ear. When I don't wear my hearing aid it's very difficult to hear anything, especially with any kind of background noise interfering with my concentration. When I got pulled over a few years ago on a busy, noisy Road for a missing headlight I used that excuse to force the cop to ratchet up louder and louder so I could hear her. By the time I got through she was almost screaming at me while standing on the roadway just so I could hear her. It got pretty funny.
@@stevesestrich5143 I just watched that video if Ian Birke. That was sickening. And it's absolutely dispicable that it was determined that the shooting was NOT justified, but the prosecutor refused to charge the officer. Any officers and bootlickers can't figure out why society doesn't trust them.
My son was walking the dog when he was approached by a police officer and asked if he had heard any gunshots in the area (it was the day after the Victoria Day weekend, when there's usually a lot of fireworks). My son felt it a bit odd that HE, being black in a mostly white neighbourhood, was the one approached. Fortunately, the dog started growling at the cop who quickly cut the conversation short and left. Bottom line: the dog was offering sound legal advice.
You believe your son was approached because he was black. What leads you to believe that? If I was investigating a report of gunshots, I would approach anyone walking in the area to question them. The officer probably did not suspect your son because he was walking his dog and dogs do not react well to gunshots. He probably was trying to get a better location on the gunfire and someone outdoors is going to be able to better give a direction on the gunfire than someone inside.
ABSOLUTELY 100%!! I had a situation where a simple traffic stop lead to a search of my vehicle because my passenger wouldn't shut the fuck up. It was because of this I do not give rides to co-workers.
That happened to me a few times I grew up in a bunch of hoods! Lol my boys I grew up with they wouldn't stop mouthing off I used to get ripped out of the car all the time I had to throw around cops names so I wouldn't get arrested lmao the best one is when I played retarded they always fell for that one I'm a pretty good actor
@@dionysius1b870 I had some good ones when I was younger. I'm in the front passenger seat when they pull over my buddies Mustang. Officer #2 shines a light in the back on my buddies face. "Do you have a criminal record" So I said "Does he look like a criminal?" Officer #2 says "I don't judge people on how they look" So I said "Well what else did you have to go on then?" Another one we get pulled over and the officer reads me the riot act and asks me what I have to say for myself. I told him we just got in the car and drove around the corner and I wasn't driving longer than 10 seconds. No answer, stomps back to his car and takes off. Another one, they pull us over. Officer #2 who is visibly younger than me says "Don't I know you?" So I said "Probably, when I went to high school the bus dropped us of in front of a public school where the kindergarten class can see the street. You probably saw me through the window when I got off the bus." Another one they separated us and tried to find inconsistencies in our stories. I quickly said to my friend "We went to visit your buddy who I do not know in a place I do not know for a reason I do not know." Officer #2 "Where were you coming from?" Me "My buddy's friends house" Officer #2 "What were you doing there?" Me "I don't know" Officer #2 "Where does he live?" Me "I don't know" Officer #2 "What was his name?" Me "I don't know" Officer #2 "You don't seem to know anything" Me "OK" Officer #2 "I don't understand how you don't know anything" Me "I like the car, so I came along for the ride" Don't ask me what my buddy told the other officer. I don't know. The other night I had someone that was trying to scam me in the hospital parking lot. I said "I don't understand" at least 5 times and then he said "Forget it" and walked off....
Fun bit of information from the UK. The police like to engage in harassment as part of normal policing, showing up without cause, or warrants to people's homes to bother them about any number of nonsensical UK law they would like to arrest someone for but have no evidence of. If you open the door rather than just yelling at them through the door the officer will almost always take a step into the home or always at least move their foot into the door jam. Now no matter how much you tell them to leave, scream at them to get out of your house, tell the to remove their foot from your door or otherwise bugger off you can't get rid of them OR block their vision of the inside of your home because if that door for any reason so much as brushes them they will claim you assaulted the office and force entry arrest the you and then toss your home doing a warrantless search. Even if you record yourself telling the police constantly to get out of your house and to clear the door for 20min+ those officers will not be punished internally or criminally. Never open your door for anyone, and never talk to the police.
My house has a window on the 2nd floor (my bedroom). for 28 years here, when the doorbell rings, I go to the window and say "hello".....this way I don`t have to close the door on them Harry Krishna's haha but just say "No thanks". If its the cops, I`ll say "what's going on?" and have the conversation from the 2nd floor. Normally I`m happy to chat with cops anytime, but starting to change my mind after watching these videos lessons Jesus!
I was interviewed by police at the station once, and after we finished talking about what happened, he started asking more personal questions, which I thought was weird. When he started asking questions about my video games, specificly about if I like GTA(which I don't, but I found the question oddly specific), then if I like to be a good guy or bad guy, I had enough and asked if there was a point to these questions. He mumbled something about "getting to know me", and pretty much ended the interview there.
I grew up in a small town where we knew all the cops, and they all knew us. It was unthinkable then and there not to tell those cops everything. They worked for us, after all. And that's the problem. Rule #1 of crime fighting should _always_ be "never ever make an innocent person pay for the crimes of others" but increasingly citizens (often under the influence of certain power-grabbing politicians) tell the police that it's okay to just throw away the presumption of innocence when investigating a crime. Our society is only as free as we agree to let it be.
I have had this happen to me. I had been living in this country neighborhood about 7 years right beside my brother who had been living there since 1979. I walked down to the store and buy a pack of smokes about 3 or 4 times a week. Every week...for 7 years. Saw a new neighbor, waved, they waved back. Next thing I know...blue lights. Now, I am fully cognizant of my appearance..I look like someone you don't wanna meet in a dark alley. But fucking hell! I've lived here longer than you have officer.
Instead of "am I free to leave", what do you think about asking "am I being detained" and replying to the "no" with "okay, I'm leaving then"? I ask because years ago I was walking to a 24h clay throwing event with some other people and we got stopped by the police on the walk over (~2am). They kept giving me contradictory answers to "am I being detained" and "am I free to go" - "no" to both despite the fact that is self-contradictory. Afterwards, I changed my approach in such situations to only asking if I'm being detained and then, upon being told "no", indicating my intent to leave. It seems to break the script of police dishonesty because they have to actively stop/detain you through words or official actions once they've said you're not being detained. What do you think about this approach from a legal perspective (not acting as my or anyone else's attorney in your answer and forming no explicit nor implied attorney-client relationship)?
Walking or hiking anywhere now will get you arrested. Hiking and meeting a park ranger will also. The Patriot Act and qualified immunity gives anyone with a badge the legal but not moral right to harass the most powerful judges and mayors although they are usually in bed so they go after the ordinary, weak, innocent citizen. Police are the biggest threat to freedom in the United States and were never meant to exist Constitutionally. They are merely thugs with a hero complex. Also,beware of first responders,who now have police powers as do postal workers, social workers, bankers,dog catchers, etc. Anyone with a public job is to be avoided.
"Am I free to leave" has a higher "positive index" than ""Am I being detained?" It is less challenging, and this is ALWAYS a good thing when dealing with cops.
@@Tawnos_ You don't WANT the cop to feel like he's on the defensive -- his instinctive response (just like yours would be) is to rise against the challenge, and is training and experience remind him that thousands of cops get their names on memorials by losing control of situations that started out just this casual and easy. Why would you think that the cop doesn't know that there has to be a reason for THIS detention, just like the other 27,855 citizen contacts he's made in his career? By putting the question in a non-challenging way and tone, there's no escalation, and it's easier to keep it that way. Remember Job One for a cop is to go home at the end of shift, and on HIS OWN FEET. If you make him think that you might keep this from happening, he's going to react the same way that YOU would, with the roles reversed.
When the cops were screwing me over I just kept repeating '5th amendment' to literally any question they asked. After about 20 of those I finally said "You aren't here on a social call, you don't have to make small talk."
Yeah, it's important to remember that pleading the 5th isnt an admission of guilt, because you never know when something you say could actually be a crime you didnt know about or be viewed as "probable cause" to force a search without consent. Similarly, do no consent to searches. Even if you have nothing to hide that you are aware of, you never know when they will happen to find something
Wow. Just wow. This guy is crammed and jammed with basic info on how to level the police playing field. Every single time I listen to a clip I learn a couple of new ways to protect my rights that thousands of servicemen have died for.
So they explained he was innocent and the mistake and the police left! Otherwise they would have handcuffed and patted him down for their protection and identify him. So just taking more time and possibly ending badly if you resist or refuse to ID! 🤦♂️🤣
yep, just let me know when you try to actually protect your rights when you're cuffed and being kicked in the ribs, i bet your rights matter very much over cock blocking a cops job ...i bet that'll swing your way any time now
That slogan doesn't say whom or what they protect and serve, so technically it's not a lie. It's your job to understand that they protect and serve something other than you.
I'm thankful for content creators that make extremely useful videos like this one. Knowing how to handle the cops got me out of a potentially bad situation a couple years ago. I smoke weed in a non legal state. My usual connect was out and I had to go to someone I didn't know that well. Turns out he was being watched by the police. So I go to his apartment, get an eighth, and drive back home. I end up getting pulled even though they had no good reason. I still dumbly answered their questions and he gave me a warning ticket for not signaling long enough while changing lanes. (Just an excuse to pull me but a very weak one). After he gives me the ticket then asks to search my car and I say no. He tried to get a warrant but got denied because he had no probable cause and I called him out on it before he called in the warrant. If not for these type of videos I would have just said yes to the search thinking if I said no they would search it anyway and it would be worse. I really wish my state would legalize rec use so I didn't have to be a criminal.
I remember an episode of cops where a woman had been pulled over, I don't remember why. The cop asked her where she was coming from, and she was pretty rude about telling him it was none of his business. He then asked her where she was going and she said she didn't have to tell him that either. I kept expecting him to arrest her for refusing to cooperate or something but in the end he had to let her go. He was fishing and she wasn't biting. That was the first time I realized you could just not answer their questions. But i grew up in a small town where I went to school with the cops kids, etc, they weren't the big city thug types. So I generally will talk to the cops when I get pulled over even though I suppose it would be a bad idea if I was trying to hide anything.
The last time I got pulled over the cop asked me where I was going and I told her (and I quote), "Here and there, hither and yon, to and fro." I then asked her if that was specific enough or did I need to give more detail. She frowned, then asked where I was coming from. I looked at her, laughed, and asked, "Seriously?" She dropped the questions after that
I'm autistic and was arrested numerous times during a tumultuous youth. I've never seen anyone as confused as the police not quite realising their interrogation techniques didn't work in any way whatsoever
While I appreciate your sound legal advice, in the not-perfect world, you close a door on a cop while refusing to talk to him and thinking he's just going to walk away is naive. If in a traffic stop a cop asks if he can search my car, I will refuse (it's my right), knowing full well that the cop will become suspicious and probably call a canine unit that will falsely alert on my car so he can trump up a bogus reason to search my car and find nothing. My rights will cause me a delay and aggravation, but that's how it goes.
@@billyrayvalentine7972 My assumption is that cops can come up with anything for a "probable cause" search if they want - no matter how ludicrous it is.
Years ago I was at a friends house. We could see some people walking around in his yard. Saw that it was the police. They knocked on the door. My friend answered them without opening the door. They said they were looking for his sister. Who wasn't there? But wanted to come inside. My friend would not let them. They kept on saying we wanted to just wanna talk. We just wanna talk. My friend asked the officer well, is there another cop out there with you officers like yes, talk to him. And we went back to what we were doing. I laughed so hard.
@@timmattle4730 In my opinion? Cordial is always the way to go. There's very little in the way of controlling the tactics of others. Unfortunately today's law enforcement are taught the people are an enemy and not people to serve. My parents are both retired with 27 and 28 years under their belts respectively. Uncle was a cop for 30, and cousins on the force. I have friends on the force. There is a huge difference, in my observations and observations of older LEOs that today's cops are a far cry from their generation and are increasingly militarized and are taught in academies to view people as threats. Do ALL cops conduct themselves in this manner? Of course not. But there was less of a pool to draw from for candidates when GWOT started. I wish I could remember the report written about it and should I find it again I'd be more than happy to link it. That said, I do not trust cops, as a general rule, to help us. My experience with them, as partly stated, is family of blue and working with them professionally when my prior job necessitated their involvement and I had to get between them and someone who was mentally deficient. Also had interactions with them as a normal day to day civilian. So, you can take my opinion with a grain of salt but I'd highly suggest you just assume any cop who initiates contact with you is not your friend and someone who is conducting an investigation and act accordingly.
@@timmattle4730 The FBI's website actually has a page dedicated to the militarization of law enforcement. It is taught to treat everyone as a threat and potential suspect.
Once, many years ago, I was working for a newspaper in California in the delivery department. My job was to take newspapers to carriers who delivered them. This was back when kids still delivered papers on their bikes. I was at a house where I was dropping off some bundles when the police showed up, apparently responding to a call that there was some disturbance or something. I told them what I was doing, and they asked for my license, which I gave them, and they disappeared somewhere and didn't bring me my license back for well over an hour. I was very late finishing my route that morning. My boss started in at me about it, but I explained what had happened and they decided it wasn't my fault. But I've often wondered about the legality of what the police did in that situation.
The last interaction I had with a LEO went well. I hit a 300lb black bear going 70mph(me, not the bear). It was 1AM on the highway. I KNEW he would make small talk to asses sobriety which wasn't a big deal as I don't drink. I explained what happened and that I would refuse medical treatment. The truck was totaled and not drivable and I was 45 miles from home. He offered to drive me about 15 miles up the road to a gas station to wait for my wife rather than on the roadside. There ARE still some good cops out there...
well, it's different when you hit a bear as opposed to say , having 100 pounds of cocaine in your backseat and still protesting your rights to not be searched , and the fact you are probably white. makes a HUGE difference doesn't it?
So, because of the disingenuous, unethical, and deceptive nature of how the police operate, they *never* make _"smalltalk"_ for the sake of making _"smalltalk."_ It's safe to assume the police are _"working an angle"_ when ever they engage in conversation. Got it. In 2012, I was stopped in Racine WI. After handling the officer my documents, he laughed lightly saying _"hey we have the same insurance company."_ I kept the same blank facial expression looking straight ahead, not responding to his statement. I think he got the message because he didn't try that again. If he would have asked _"is there any reason you were going so fast?"_ I would have responded by asking him for his name and badge number.
I’m a retired 25 year officer. I found that if I humbled myself and treated people with respect - no matter their social or financial status - people appreciated it. And I never entered anyones house without their permission…unless of emergency. I’ve had people I’ve arrested approach me and thank me for treating them with respect. Worked for me, but I love Jesus and that’s His example.
I had something similar happen to me when I was living at home still. I was up working on a paper for school at around 11 PM and needed a break, so put on my hoodie and went for a jog. I barely made it around my block when a police officer yelled at me from a car to stop. Turned out they had supposedly heard a report of someone suspicious in dark clothing, so I had to sit on the curb while he ran my ID, be given the flashlight test, and answer all sorts of questions about what I was doing, where I lived, etc. That was bad enough, but then another officer arrived in an unmarked(!) car and the questions continued, and they did the flashlight test again. I was pretty dumbfounded when he then said they suspected I was on something because my pupils were not responding the normal way - I could only laugh because at this point in my life I didn't even drink, I even offered to take a urine test. In the end, after a half hour or so of being treated like a criminal, they finally let me go home, but (according to the officer) only because I lived nearby. I'm not even sure what I would suggest to people to avoid a situation like this. I guess, if you're young and in the suburbs, don't jog with a hoodie? And know that the police are often not your friend, unfortunately.
@@gingermuffin4292 To tell you the truth, I did leave. I took a job in Switzerland of all places. And as much as I miss some things it's a little depressing when I go back to visit now.
@@gingermuffin4292 Too bad the police are worse (read: more aggressive) in most other countries including so-called enlightened, modern, progressive western Europe. See the UK example above.
To be fair, the hoodie is the most suspicious article of clothing. Just wear a scarf if you're cold and eat a croissant. Nothing suspicious about that.
Nothing against cops but this is the reason I joined the fire department. Whether it be in the capacity of a Paramedic or actual fire suppression people implicitly trust me. They can't get me in their homes fast enough lol.
Firefighters and paramedics perform necessary services and don't exist to collect revenue. The very nature of the position allows us to trust you, and limits your opportunities to abuse. If taxes stopped today, I'd still be willing to pay for fire departments.
@@BULL.173 I mean it. There are a few jobs that I view as absolutely essential, no matter what! Firefighters are number one. Your skills are too diverse, too needed! I'll always support the FDs.
Perhaps a future video on what constitutes "what a reasonable person would beleive" would be useful. "Am I free to leave " usually not answered in the affirmative or negative. Usually it's "I/we need to talk to you" The courts have generally set the standard of "what a reasonable person would believe" Would a reasonable person beleive they could go if the police evade / refused to answer / didn't answer a clear "yes" or "no" to the "Am I detained?" "Am I free to leave?" questions ? Everyday reasonable citizens don't get to decide it seems what is reasonable.
That’s exactly the question I had too. Many times, cops simply don’t answer the question. But don’t let you leave. But also don’t articulate any reasonable suspicion. They want it both ways. What do you do then?
I'm not a lawyer, but best guess, after some standard caveats: Read the officer's attitude, first of all, because you'd rather win an unlawful detention suit yourself than have it won by your next of kin. Do not do the following if the officer is looking all wide-eyed and itchy-fingered. Do not imagine you can say the magic words to the air; you need to give the officer the chance to say you're being detained or arrested. Do be obviously patient and calm, do speak clearly, do let a dash or body cam see your body language and if possible your lips moving. "Am I free to leave?" "I need to talk to you." "I understand that this is a voluntary conversation unless you tell me it's not. Am I free to leave?" "How come you don't want to talk to me?" "Doesn't matter, it's my right to leave a voluntary conversation. Am I free to leave?" "Oh, you 'just know your rights', do you?" "I believe this is a voluntary conversation and I'm going to leave." At that point either you leave, or you'll have to start asking for their reasonable suspicion (if detained)/probable cause (if arrested), refusing to consent to searches, refusing to answer questions without legal counsel, etc.
Usually I get 'we are just having a conversation' and I say 'that's a yes. Then' and start walking. At that point, as far as I'm concerned, they have to formally tell me I'm being detained. (I have no idea of that will hold up on court, so not legal advice, it that's how I handle it)
What happens when you ask if youre free to leave, but they avoid the question and keep trying to change the subject or ignore your question? That's what they normally do 99% of the time. They just repeat the last command they gave you or get you into some circle talk
@@Creepystalker102 after about the 3rd repetition, it's time to get obstinate "I will not speak with you until you answer my question" then rude "answer my fu&ing question, @ssklown", THEN state clearly that refusal to provide a direct answer will be taken as an affirmative answer, and ask again. If the next word out of his mouth is not "no", turn and walk away. Be sure you record at least that last part for CYA later. Got the "obstinate" and direct answer parts from a badged friend - not just any badge: his says "Sheriff" (not deputy...)
“We don’t have to be jerks when flexing our rights.” Thank you for this message, it’s great to hear someone put it this way. I made the mistake of watching a few videos on a channel that was all about “auditing” the police, and every video involved someone being an absolute a-hole to the cops, and practically DARING them to make an arrest. Shameful behavior.
I'm reapectful up until the point a low IQ public servant who forgets their place (which isnt as my master yet they seem to think it is) tries to outsmart me by fishing or straight up lying to me. If you want respect you have to give it first. After that the snark escalates exponentially as is my Constitutional right.
I've literally learned all ID laws in the places that I travel. For example: Cop: You got ID ? (While using fingers to demonstrate his manhood) Me: Not for you. Cop: You wanna go to jail? Me: You wanna lose your QI?! Cop: Now, here's the deal.. Me: Fl statute 901.151 States that I am not obligated to shoe ID until I am UNDER ARREST. Cop: Are you some kind of lawyer?! Me: You know, IN THIS DAY AND AGE, In the "LAND OF THE FREE", that I have to learn every pertinent law, just to keep an armed government parasite at bay, pisses me off! So, NO. I don't have to be a lawyer to know the law! Just like I don't have to be a proctologist to know that I'm dealing with an ASSHOLE!
Great Channel sir. I wish I was educated like I am now years ago I would have avoided a lot of grief in my life and the victim of police brutality with permanent brain damage and PTSD I did Sue however it didn't stop the police from ruining my life
If a cop starts making small talk with me, I don't respond to what they said; rather, I just make totally unrelated small talk, and try to take up as much of their time as possible. After about 15 minutes, they wish me a good day and leave. However, I am a trained public speaker, and know how to tailor my language in such a way, as to not really say anything at all, so proceed with that at your own risk. Frankly, I find my time-wasting banter to be quite amusing.
That’s sounds great and all but since I’m a DV victim, my abuser use to pre-file false reports at the courthouse and also call in with false allegations over multiple jurisdictions in our large city. If I didn’t do exactly as I was told to do by my abuser for over 15 years, then my abuser would utilize power over me by calling the police. I subsequently would be going about as usual, police would show up. I would be questioned, searched and harassed for things I didn’t understand, thrown on the ground and taken to jail or a mental institution without any explanation. Each time I would bond or get myself out, beg to go back to by abuser because I had nothing at the time. I would then go to court and charges dropped without an attorney to help me. Today, I’m thankfully free with an IFP but no attorney or abuse center has told me how to repair the plethora of mug shots and dropped cases over those years of abuse. Please help?
I'm so sorry to hear what you've been through - unfortunately, it isn't an uncommon story. You will want to get your records of arrest as organized as possible - there are different types of dismissal, rulings of not-guilty, etc. Get as much of the documentation as you are able - if you can figure out how to do it, you can usually request the records yourself. Court clerks can be very helpful - you'll want to call the court(s) where your trial(s) occurred. If you have money for an attorney, look for one that specializes in expungements, etc. The less work the attorney has to do to obtain records, the less you'll have to pay them to do that stuff. If you can't afford an attorney, look for scaled-fee or pro bono legal services. These tend to not be as high quality, but they sometimes are, and they can help a bit. Many attorneys offer free consultations, so even if you can't afford one, you can call them and ask questions, and they will often give you good answers in the hopes that you'll eventually hire them. Don't say, "I can't afford an attorney," except maybe at the end of the conversation, if you want advice on where you can find lower-fee attorneys, and then only if you won't be calling the attorney back. Many (but not all) attorneys will be OK with giving you further advice, if you pay them for their time. Ask what their hourly rate is, and ask if you can pay them that for more help in the future. They might even be willing to have their paralegal/office staff do some of the paperwork for you, if you do all the other work yourself and sign a limited services agreement. The fee for this may be lower than the attorney's fee (most law offices separate billing, depending on which employee is doing the work - note that sole practitioners sometimes don't have any staff, so that wouldn't work with them). If you have money, just find a good expungement attorney. If not, I'd suggest first consulting expungement attorneys, and then looking for low-fee or pro bono attorneys. I'd go with the expungement attorneys first so you have a sense of what it's possible to do before you talk to pro bono attorneys who may limit their services or not have the same level of expertise. Finally, remember that this is a human process - if you sound like a client who has things together and will be easy to work for, that can really help, especially with solo practitioners. I saw a law firm drop a wealthy client for being too difficult to work with, and a lot of people don't realize that you're kind of being interviewed yourself when you consult an attorney, especially if you are asking for a non-standard sort of arrangement. Most lawyers vastly prefer just handling the entire case beginning to end, but they also love money, so offering them some money and being easy to work with can sometimes work. Finally, be patient, and don't be discouraged if you get a rude or impatient lawyer. Just call another one - some lawyers are jerks, while others are great people. Don't talk about how unfair everything is, etc. - lawyers charge by the hour, and so you want to get straight to the point, unless you want to pay $100-$500 an hour to have someone listen to you vent. I hope this is helpful - may better days lay ahead for you. :)
Why in the world would you open your door to a stranger at any time, but especially 3am? Police ARE strangers. Not only that, but they are strangers with guns, wearing a costume.
Thank You! Citizen are so naive to think Police are your friends. Every time I ever ask for help from the police they made it apparent that I was disturbing them. The entire concept of Community Oriented Policing is both an ideal and illusion.
The only place on earth I've ever seen community policing was when i was stationed in Japan. But Japan is one of the safest countries in the world, so...
@@gcb345 Japan is really nice but you're totally screwed if you do get on the wrong side of the law. The legal system there doesn't provide as many protections as the US.
@@Strideo1 True. The Japanese police don't investigate so much as extract confessions. You can be held without charge for 29 days and they can literally interrogate you 24/7, beat you, chop off your fingers (both disfiguring you, and marking you as involved in organized crime). Guilt is assumed by Japanese police and courts.
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I'm a 6'2 Mexican guy . . . really dark skinned . . .I was always taught . . "stay as quiet as possible around the police". if they ask you anything just say "my lawyer advises me not to answer any police questions without an attorney present"
It is easy. A man you do not know standing uninvited at your door with a gun is not your friend. He may have a good reason to be there, but to be your friend is not that reason.
The constantly repeated "don't talk to the police" has to be among the purest indications of how completely fucked up society has become. It should NEVER be a worrying encounter for a law-abiding citizen to talk to police. If it is, it's because the police made very serious mistakes somewhere.
Or the laws are so complex (biased in some cases) that a person who is trying to follow the law and generally be a good person cant be sure they haven't accidentally done something wrong.
It's unfortunate, but the police talk to you to find things they can use. If those things are useful in a case against you, so be it. I don't have anything to be concerned about talking to the police, but it still puts me on edge because I know they don't have my best interest in mind.
You know looking back at the school boy days. The teacher announcing that a policeman was to have a talk with the whole classroom. They, the teacher, and the police saying that are your YOUR friends. Claiming they ARE part of the community, and are there to HELP you. As you grow up, you learn that all of it is really the fatherst from the truth.
The village I live in none of the police officers live here so they are not part of my community. The chief says off the record that they don't recruit from the village for officer safety.
The teacher was not lying to you, the police do want to help innocent kids and do not want anything bad to happen to them. What has changed is that you are no longer an innocent kid.
Had the talk in school 8th grade maybe ,back in the early 80s, I remember the cop saying if you smoke pot smoke it till it comes out of your ears so we can catch you and not have to deal with you anymore .....was thinking to my self why not just smoke a little now and then what’s wrong with that
I like the idea of answering every question with a question. One of the first ones should be "am I free to go" if you are stuck there, just keep asking them about what they are doing and never answer their questions. Always record also.
@@EchoTangoSuitcase No, I am not missing the point. The cop already escalated the situation by disturbing me for no good reason. I am simply asking why the cop expects me to meekly accept him taking my time and trying to screw me over. If you think that is escalation, then you must consider bending over and letting them violate you to be simply what you deserve. You need more self-respect.
About 2am one morning I wasn't sleepy so I went out for a short walk and some fresh air. A cop pulls over and begins to question me. While shining bright lights on me he asked if I was on drugs because my pupils looked dilated (I was stone cold sober BTW). Back up came and I was given a field sobriety test under absolutely no grounds. He made small talk with me which led to me mentioning I had been working out at the gym a lot lately. He then asked "Why do you do that?" Seriously! He asked me why I exercise! In retrospect, I should have asked "Am I free to go?" and not replied to any of his inane questions.
I had a cop knock on my door and ask if he could come in. I said, "no", and he said is there some reason why he can't? I said because he wasn't invited to come in. He then asked me if there was some reason why my car was backed into my driveway to which I responded yes then remained silent. "Care to share what the reason is"? No, but thanks for asking. After some mumbling about search warrants, I told him to get one if he could and come back with it. He finally left and I found out later my neighbor reported me for an expired tag which turned out to be completely untrue. They will try anything to get inside your house but don't let them come in.
It's such a disingenuous question too - no one wants strangers snooping around inside their home, whether or not they are police.
What a jerk for a neighbor!
If your car is parked on your driveway, an expired tag doesn’t even matter.
Fun fact: police are like vampires they can't come in your house without being invited.
You did well. Never let the police inside.
"You're not lying, I'm your lawyer friend, and I advise you not to talk to the police." I laughed so hard. That got a like and a sub out of me!
I feel so special, Andrew Flusche is my lawyer friend.
(Not special, _special_ )
Me too 😂
"Officer Andy is trying to smell your breath as well"
Cops have the weirdest fetishes
Why do you think they chose a career with beatsticks and bondage cuffs?
SHERIFF Andy went fishing all the time!
Three things you do when dealing with cops....
1. Record them
2. Order them to give you their names and badge numbers
3. State your rights - I don't answer questions, I don't consent to searches, I want my lawyer, am I free to go?
But can't they just easily grab or destroy my phone to prevent me from recording? What's the point?
@@livery955 if they do then they will face a lawsuit under title 18 section 242 'deprivation of civil rights under color of law.' Which can result in not only three but any other officer involved being fired and possibly sent to prison for minimum of one year...Kim potters conviction is going to make convicting cops way more easier to hold cops accountable and its about time too...
yep, that is a great way to have very annoyed police on you, so if even the smallest thing is not ok with you, you will get the full wrath of the system.
@@livery955 then that's destruction of private property, tampering with evidence, and 4th amendment violations under Turner v driver and hook v cunnifee. Hope that cop likes prison.
@@thorin1045 if the cops get annoyed over people citing their rights, then they can face the wrath of complaints and lawsuits. Contrary to popular belief it's easy to get the cops fired and sue the police..more lawsuits the better ..I guarantee the first time the cops unlawfully detain/ arrest you, you'll be back here supporting the cause.
I can’t multitask so I will say “just a minute” while I get my stuff (license and reg).
Thanks for this! I never answer the door unless I am expecting someone.
I had a friendly cop randomly drive up onto my secluded property once. He was all smiles and nice until I informed him that he was trespassing. He didn't like me asking "didnt you see the no trespassing signs all the way up the driveway?" He turned around and carried his ass. Even though it was a pain in the ass, I started locked the gate, even when I was home. I lived in a secluded area for a reason (people get on my damn nerves).
A response that seems to work when confronted with this is: “I don’t answer questions.” Chances are they will come back with; “why not?” and you say “I don’t answer questions.”
I tend to lead them on a wild goose chase(conversationally). I have a lot of experience in mindless conversation. Oh, and I make it a point to know my local officials
Excellent explanation thank you
Cop: Where are you going?
Me: Down the road.
Cop: Where are you coming from?
Me: up the road.
The regular street cop isn't trained to do this but a detective is.
Never speak to a detective without a having a scumbag lawyer.
Mom (when I was a kid): "Don't talk to strangers, even if they are nice."
Lawyer (now): "Don't talk to the police, even if they are nice."
Especially when they are nice
@@Sablus exactly what i was about to say
yeah like what its its really a killer LOOKING LIKE a police?! like the killer bought outfits?
never trust anyone.....
@@QueenMeowTigeress that just sounds like next level paranoia lol
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The one I love, is when a citizen is genuinely ignorant to a particular obscure laws existence, but that notion is met with “ignorance of the laws is no excuse.”
But yet, time & time again, as I have even experienced personally, when a leo is ignorant to some of the very laws they’re sworn to uphold & enforce, the same notion doesn’t apply in any way whatsoever, to them.
There's actually a court case allowing police to constitutionally make an arrest for an infraction that is not a jailable offense, but is only punishable by a fine (Atwater v. City of Lago Vista, 532 U.S. 318, 121 S.Ct. 1536, 149 L.Ed.2d 549 (2001)).
One of the justices reasoned, basically, that police cannot be expected to know the law. I always thought that was nuts. Civilians are expected to know every law, even though that's pretty much impossible, but law enforcement officers are not expected to know the law, even though they are tasked with enforcing the law. I once asked a cop if TASERs are legal in L.A., and he got on his phone to Google it.
Another Supreme Court case held that it is Constitutional to strip-search anyone taken to jail, even if the offense gives no indication that someone is hiding dangerous items.
So the Supreme Court has said that it's constitutional for police to arrest you for a seat belt violation (like happened in the Atwater case) and then strip-search you. It's shameful, in my opinion.
Note that this is just what is constitutional under federal law - a lot of things may restrain police from doing this stuff, such as state constitutions, local police practice regulations, and other laws. Also, I haven't re-visited this lately, so maybe something has changed since around 2010 when I last looked at this issue closely.
there's a good scene in the old Walking Tall sequel where Buford Pusser charges everyone in the court for not tying down their vehicles, (a law that was meant for horses).
they intentionally dont teach us the laws of our country so they always ahve a steead flow of profit. most guberments are for profit not for the people, specially the us guberment lol
Ignorance of the law is no excuse is what they all say. And then when you are trying to understand the laws, they discount you by calling you an internet lawyer.
@@dakotagreg1177 yup, but this internet lawyer has an easy time dealing wwith the guberment cause their wording in laws matter and as long aas you know that wording you can use it to your advantage... thats what they really hate about us, we can get around the red tape they never will hahaha
My husband (now ex) had been charged with brandishing a weapon on the neighbor's son.
I was sitting at the kitchen table with the window open. The police came up to the window and were making small talk, asking about the craft that I was working on and asking where did I work and did I like my job. I was okay with answering their questions, but then they began asking about my husband's various firearms. From the window, the police could see a collection of locked gun safes (small boxes). They asked me if that was what those were or not. I smiled and said, "I'm going to call my lawyer now." I started to close the window. The younger police officer had put her hand on my window and told me, "if you close the window, we cannot help you. You could lose your job because of your husband's actions." I smiled again and asked her to let go of my window, I am going to call my lawyer and share that bit of news that you told me." I was informed that she was wrong, but. I just closed my window. Called my lawyer, and he could hear them pounding on my door threatening to kick it in. He told me to stay on the phone and pretend that I am talking to him. He left his office and showed up at my place. He informed them that he recorded their conversations and looks forward to seeing them in court. They took off. The city settled out of court.
They settled what? Did you sue them? What was the suit claiming?
@@larrybud My lawyer sued them on my behalf for harassment and verbal threats. The city settled out of court.
@@christybradfield7812 For WHAT$$$ A MILLION??
@@funone8716 Unable to say, sorry. One thing I failed to share is my lawyer is also a friend, so I was not charged had I lost the case.
@@larrybud settlements all almost always come with a stipulation that the amount cannot be disclosed by either party.
I was being investigated by the police (for something I didn't do). A police detective showed up at my door and wanted to ask me some questions. I told him he would need to ask all questions through my attorney. He then asked who my attorney was. I responded "I can't answer that. I just told you that you need ask my attorney." And then I closed and locked the door. That was five years ago. I never heard from the police again.
Very nice. I may use this someday. haha
Weird that this works. Thought that's the kind of thing wich would get you in trouble but yeah things aren't so straight forword.
@Logan Wolv By taking that action, I invoked my 5th Amendment and 6th Amendment rights. Of course, the police could continue investigating on their own. But they could not do anything more with me in the investigation without violating my constitutional rights. The only thing they could do was arrest me if they managed to gather enough evidence and/or witnesses. Obviously the police didn’t find anything they could use against me because I never heard anything about it again.
@@LucidDreamer54321 I had a similar situation happen to me. They would even root through my trash. The evidence they supposedly had to arrest and finger print me was an empty gettoblaster box lmao that my GFs mom had bought for herself at the time lmfao
It was truly pathetic but funny at the same time!
Both my GFs mom and myself basically told the detective to gtfo!
It's been 14 years and they haven't contacted me since!
One 4th of July some friends and I were lighting firecrackers off in my driveway which were illegal at the time. So later that night the cops showed up saying they got a call someone was lighting fireworks off there. My father said " nope not here officer" and the cop said "ok thanks" and waded through the firecracker papers in my driveway to get back to his car and left. :-P
Cop: "I just need to do a welfare check."
Me: "Nobody in this house is on welfare."
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"We've got all whe welfare we need officer, keep the check for someone else in need."
Be careful with this one.
Depending on how and why we arrived at the home for a welfare check we might be within our authority to force entry without a warrant if you say the wrong thing. Nobody wants that. You or us.
In my opinion, the best thing to say is "Thank you for checking on us but we're fine." If we say that we have to check on someone specifically, it is possible that the particular circumstances are present that we will have to force entry if we don't get to speak to them. Again, nobody wants that, including us.
In my opinion, the best thing to do in this case is have the person step to the door. Particularly if the person we're checking on is a woman or a child, and you who answered the door is a man, I would suggest resisting the urge to aggressively "take charge of the situation".
You, of course, are nothing more than a law abiding citizen who is legally and righteously standing on your 4th amendment guarantees, and that is both proper, and commendable. But please do try to keep in mind that we've been to plenty of houses where the abuser attempts to use force and intimidation to keep the victims from speaking to us.
Since that's not you, it's probably best to call the person to the door and let them tell us. Most of the time we don't need to come in and they don't need to come out.
@@reilleymalcom A thoughtful and rational reply, plus sensible advice, on TH-cam comments??? Are you a bot?
@@reilleymalcom With due respect, no a welfare check can not just turn into a warrantless search. See SCOTUS decision in Caniglia v. Strom. As of this ruling you will need some sort of exigence, or cause under community care taking. The court did give examples of when community care taking would apply. But simply because an officer wants to do a search is no longer one of them. The case was about a man who agreed to a mental health check, then the police went into his home seized his firearms, violating his 4th amendment rights so says SCOTUS.
No the courts are very liberal with cops on what is community care taking and exigence. So a given situation would be necessary to know.
I'm a former police officer my advise is use your right to remain silent.
During an encounter with a police officer, if there is no reasonable expectation that the person confronted by the officer is likely to use their cell phone as a weapon (the confronted person while takeing out /activateing the cell phone to record audio &/or video specifies their intention to record the interaction for documenting the event) is it legal for the officer to ensure the person does not record?
Sorry you had to put up with pigs for any amount of time
No such thing as a former terrorist.
@@usspaul9422 No, courts have upheld that there's no right to privacy in public and you're free to record police so long as you're not physically impeding what they're doing
then you probably know that PIGS consistently harass law abiding citizens in order to avoid doing real dangerous work such as rounding up MS13 gang members in my community. its much safer to harass me on my way to work than bother the gang members in the community.
The police can be really obvious with their attempts to get you to open up to them. I pulled in to a 7/11 parking lot one evening, I don't know why the police were called but as soon as I got out of my car I was questioned by a female officer. I don't recall how the questioning started but she tried to make conversation and said "there's nothing like that first hit on a crack pipe", as if she was a drug user herself and that would get me to open up to her and let my guard down. I've never smoked crack but it was such a ham-fisted attempt at manipulation I couldn't let it slide, I asked her, "does that work?" She turned a bit red and dropped the, "hey I'm cool, we can talk" act. It was really dumb but maybe she used that line before and someone actually fell for it.
I'm sure it has worked. As a smart man once said, "Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half the people are stupider than that."
@@rcslyman8929 Yes, it was George Carlin.
@@geneobrien8907 wish he was around today. Unfortunate he died
Dopers are quite stupid and lonely so I can see how that has worked for her in the past
She's no wrong...
Is it terrible that since my son was able to speak I told him to never speak to the police. I always told him if the police start talking to him to tell them he wants his dad and not to say anything else. So when my son was 8 , in school, they had a dare program and the officer tried to speak to my son, and the school called me in because my son demanded my presence. Good boy!
God why the fuck do they waste money on the DARE programs anyway? They don't work and all it does is make it so kids know that cops will fuck them over at the nearest suspicion of being high.
@@Sablus If nothing else, better the bullshit you _can_ see coming than the bullshit you can't.
@@Sablus DARE is the reason I started smoking weed. They were like "oh man BEING SOBER IS COOOOOOOL" and I was like "this is lame AF"
what does your son do when he really needs police to help him?
@@techhelpwizardgenie3146 "DARE is the reason I started smoking weed"
I can almost hear the bleating of sheep. You made your choice because someone else made a choice.
You can never talk your way out of an arrest but you can certainly talk your way into one.
That's not 100% true. In minor situations, you can often talk your way out of an arrest. But you can also talk your way into one. But if you are brought down to the station for questioning, you need to ask for a lawyer and not say anything further until you have one. This is the rule of thumb I follow when it comes to talking to a police. Is this something that is likely to lead to me getting arrested? If answering a few questions or flashing my ID will settle the matter, I will go ahead and do that. But if it's something serious enough to be worth risking spending a day or two in jail for, don't say anything. For instance, you spend a night in jail for not cooperating with the police while you wait for your attorney to get you out of a situation that could get you put away for the next 20 years. Sometimes getting arrested is completely worth it. Sometimes it's not.
@@TerryProthero There's no way you can talk your way out of an arrest. An arrest is not a minor situation. Go watch "Don't talk to the police" by professor James Duane. In his lecture, he gives half the time to a detective who says that in his decades long career not one suspect has ever talked their way out of an arrest. Oh and the detective also says he "100% agrees with everything that the professor said".
If the cops are teaching their kids to never talk to the police (unless ofc youre a witness to a crime and such situations, use your brain), then why should you? The only person you should open up to is your lawyer. The detective is a professional. The lawyer is a professional who is the only person on your side. You are so hopelessly outmatched that you dont even realize it, even if youre smart. Even if you speak nothing but the truth, and 100% universal truth, and are 100% innocent, you could still implicate yourself for the simple reason that you dont know what the cops know.
To arrest someone you need probable cause. Probable cause doesnt come that easy. If youre arrested, youre not talking your way out of it. You might mistake detainment for arrest. Its possible to talk your way out of being detained, but its still unlikely. Better to just zip it after invoking the 5th.
Several years ago my neighbor's house was burglarized. A cop showed up at my door to ask if we'd heard anything. We hadn't. He then demanded ID then when I stepped away to get my wallet he entered my home uninvited and actually turned his flashlight on to look around my darkened dining room. I got annoyed and asked what the hell he thinks he's doing. He said he 'just wanted to clear me as a suspect.' My neighbor who'd approached me earlier had told me whoever was responsible entered and left over his six foot tall fence. I looked at the cop from my WALKER and said "Seriously?" Then I asked him to leave and thankfully he did. Pissed me off to the extreme.
Years ago a lawyer friend told me about that exact type of behavior. He said anytime the cops come to your door, even if you called them, step outside and close the door behind you. They will try to find their way in. Even a cracked door will allow them to "see something" or "smell something" that gives them cause to enter your home.
Cops arrest people. That is literally their job. So if you are a people, you need to always be on guard around cops if you don't want to be arrested.
Also, like in the video, just don't answer the door. I never answer my door unless the person calls or texts me that they are at my door. There is no law requiring you answer when the cops knock.
@@PhilLesh69 When I lived up north I worked at 7-11 doing mostly 3rd shift. I knew every cop. I drank at cop bars. We got along. I move down here to Florida and shit's WAY different. I had never had a cop try and snake his way into my home. I am a night owl and used to go hit the 24hr pharmacies for the start of some sales. One night around 3:00am I'm driving home and I get pulled over. Get the 'License, registration, proof of insurance' request with NO explanation why I'm being pulled over. We sat there for easily 20 minutes. Me listening to the radio, him doing cop things in his cop car. He walks back up holding my paperwork but not handing it to me and asks "What are you doing out at this time of night?' and I'd had it. I kinda snapped asked "Is there a curfew I didn't know about? Are you my parent? Otherwise I'm an adult citizen, not breaking any laws and out in my car because I feel like it. So what's the issue, officer?!" He shoves my papers at me and says "You've got a plate light out, I could ticket you but I'm letting you off with a warning. Then he stormed off in a fucking huff.
@@Hawk1966 what do you mean you liked hitting the 24 hour pharmacies for the start of some sales?
@@water2wine1 Fairly self explanatory. Walgreens, CVS, etc. start their weekly sales at 3:00am on Wednesdays. They're open 24hrs a day. They're also pharmacies. I would want items on sale so get there the moment it started so stuff was in stock. Simple.
Yes but had you been held captive by said suspect the cop might have saved your life🤷♀️
Odd how cops know all the tricks but citizens are actually learning law. Keep up the good work.
Not at all odd. Cops have been abusing the public trust for ages.
@@Ahdtsjjjtdyhjryik public abuse the public trust, too. its a pandemic
@@Idiotboxxx Cool, I'll remember that when Tim who is just minding himself at home get blasted because the cop got the wrong address and "feared for his life" thus is completely immune from consequence.
Unfortunately, they're learning to go along with maritime admiralty "law".
It's so sad that the people who are supposed to protect us are so bad at their jobs that everyone is afraid to talk to them
They aren't supposed to protect you. They're supposed to protect the government's money which sometimes means you. They're literally a state sponsored mob.
They aren’t there to protect you. They are there to enforce laws written by politicians who were put in office by the wealthy.
They are NOT supposed to protect US, but the ruling class FROM us. See, what's happening in France at the moment.
Some people are completely paranoid for no legitimate reason. Or maybe it's legitimate because they are criminals. But I talk to the police all the time and have never been arrested for anything. But if I was potentially being accused of a serious crime or if I was brought down to the police station for questioning, I would ask for an attorney and exercise my right to remain silent. At that point, it's really not worth talking to the police.
Their job is not to protect you, it's to protect the apparatus of the state.
One time something fell inside my neighbor's house and broke out one of their bedroom windows. Everyone that lived in the house next door was home when it happened but my other neighbor who calls the cops on everyone for the silliest of things called the cops and said there had been a break in or something. The police came onto my porch and just demanded that I come outside. I was busy playing in an online poker tournament so I just "no thanks I don't feel like talking right now". He tried to scare me into coming outside so I ended up calling the police on him and saying "There is an armed and aggressive man on my porch who is refusing to leave. please send someone to get this psycho off my property". I tried to press tresspassing charges but they wouldn't do it. I told his supervisor I wanted to press charges because he was such an ass and tried intimidating me into coming outside when we both knew I didn't have to.
When I was 16 I was hanging out outside of a 24 hour laundromat that was across the street from my apartment , which I worked very hard for with crap pay . Anyway cops roll up on me and start demanding that I empty my pockets , I asked for what reason , they didn't give one so I said " have a good night " and turned to go into the laundromat to check on my laundry . Next I know I'm bent over the cop car and they are ripping through my pockets , they find a butterfly knife that was only good for cutting string and cleaning my nails on breaks at work . So they charge me with a class E misdemeanor weapons charge for having a " gravity knife " , but in upstate NY butterfly knives are not considered gravity knives due to the steps needed to expose the blade and lock the handle . So illegal search and seizure and a false charge , I sit in jail 2 months , the judge wanted to try me as an adult for " knowingly committing a crime as an adult " and bump the charge up to a felony weapons charge . The court appointed idiot would not listen to me when I handed him the copy of the ruling from 1962 stating htat a butterfly knife is not illegal in NY and therefore I did nothing wrong , and insisted that I take the deal of 3 years probation and time served for the 2 months in jail . Also lost my laundry and my apartment in the process , so I walked out of jail homeless . The legal system is a shit show in this country
any why were you not allowed bail... what did you leave out of the story... NOBODY goes to jail for a class E MISDEMEANOR or for ANY misdemeanor... What is the rest of the story here... Nothing adds up!
@@erhimc I didn't leave anything out of the story ... and yes , I did go to jail for a class E misdemeanor , I did not have the money for bail and neither did anyone that I know .. I was 16
@@sanjurohanamizuki6181 Even worse that you would go to jail for such at the age of 16...
How old are you now and what has your life been since then?
@@jdsartre9520 I'm 41 ... frankly my life , it's been crazy , it's been fun , it's been fucking terrible ... honestly , nothing to write home about ... a lot of couch surfing , sleeping outside in all weather ... sure I've stories to tell .. but I don't know if any were worth it
People really need to stop being "cop callers". Unless it's serious, just don't do it.
Don't ruin people's lives.
“They’re not just bored.” 😆
Actually the problem is that they are likely bored. If you are a boring person doing nothing wrong and cops are talking to you they have nothing better to do.
When cops are bored they will write people tickets. During the day any minor thing that you get pulled over for will get you a ticket. That is because they are bored.
"knock, knock."
"Who's there?"
"It's the police"
"What do you want?"
"We just want to talk".
"How many are you?"
"Two".
"Talk to each other."
@@metamorphicorder From what I've seen they like sitting in parking lots chit chatting with their free time.
@@metamorphicorder def not bored many calls for service go unanswered. Someone called on u
"It is my policy not to speak to the police under the advice of my lawyer. Am I free to leave? Thank you." This is all you should say to the police.
I'll pick one nit with that: the advice was not "..on the advice of my lawyer", because that tells them you have a lawyer, which can just lead to more questions, like "what do you have a lawyer for?". The advice was "A lawyer friend of mine told me never to talk to police." This, as he points out, is indisputable, and gives them nowhere to go.
From watching countless auditing and cop watching videos it has become apparent that the one question most police don't like to answer (on camera at least!) and will skirt and deflect and point blank refuse to answer is, "Am I free to leave?/ Am I being detained?"
They make small talk to get you to incriminate yourself. Plain and simple.
Nailed it -
Even if you don't incriminate yourself, talking at all may open the door, I do not consent to this contact. Did you take an oath to protect my constitutional rights or was that pre-lies training?
If you aren’t a criminal there is nothing to incriminate you.
@@4iviv312 You poor soul. How many people are in jail for shit they didnt do? How many have been charged in excess of what they actually did?
@@4iviv312 And if you observe natural law, you'll live and let live. No victim = no crime.
Back during the 50s a police officer went to my grandmothers home accusing one of her sons of mischief within the neighborhood. She told the cop that her son was sick and spent the day in bed, which was true. The officer didn't believe her so she took a broom handle and started to beat his rear end with it. She chased the cop down the road and eventually knocked his hat off of his head with the broom. The next day the sheriff showed up at her place to question what happened. She told him that his officer was being rude and called her a liar. So she gave him a licking. Then she said, "Oh, and here's his hat." The Sheriff laughed and said, "He got what he deserved. Next time he'll learn to be more polite with people."
Those were the good old days. LOL
She would probably have gotten shot these days. Sad times.
Feels good to be white, doesn’t it?
@@Jadty feels good to be racist, doesn't it?
I dunno, being White's pretty cool 😎
@@Jadty yes, yes it does.
As long as officer is wearing that uniform and badge, he is on duty and that means EVERY word that he says is designed to interrogate you. NEVER make small talk with police officers, they are not your friends and they don't care about "how you're doing". They want to use any little excuse to charge you and/or arrest you. That's it.
And they might even be just doing it out of habit. But the results would be the same.
If the cops show up at your door *and you didn't call them,* just don't answer the door; you have no legal obligation to answer the door for ANYONE! If the cops had the authority to enter your house without your permission, they wouldn't bother knocking - they'd simply break in.
Cops do get the wrong house on occasion, so they're still good for breaking in even when they don't have permission.
That's why it's prudent to keep armor-piercing ammunition nearby at all times. :D
That's wrong, they need a warrant for that. If they just break your door down they would be violating you 4th amendment rights
@@Manny0142 What, we have rights?
In the past people had the right to shoot them if they tried to break in
@@usern4metak3ns how far in the past was this?!
When I was in highschool one of my friends threw a party and it ended up relatively big about 15 or so people. Neighbors called in a noise complaint. Police show up and knock on the door my friend was talking to the police through the door and telling them to go and we'll lower the volume. The police kicked the door in and next thing I know 4 cops come barging in and tackle my friend to the floor put him in handcuffs. They rounded the rest of us up and had 2 cops in the backyard that caught a couple of my friends trying to run lined us up against the wall gave us all a breathalyzer test and wrote us all up for mip and drove us home. My friend later told me the police claimed he let them in even though we had pictures of the busted door frame. Was pretty messed up. This was a small town where nothing happens and pretty sure the cops got a high off of kicking in peoples doors and busting parties. Sadly this all happened before everyone had a camera in their pockets.
They deserved to be shot for felony home invasion treason and all the other felonies they committed....
@pl m Voters and political activists have not sworn an oath.....Choosing a new master every 4 years is kind of ignorant though.....And trying to get rid of our rights can be considered warring against the people and the country.....
During quarantine, squatters moved in next door. When I called the cops, they told me that, since nobody answered when they knocked and the house looked secure, that they were unable to act. I asked, "So, all I have to do is not answer the door when you come and you can't do anything?" He did not answer, which I took as silent consent.
They came because they had to. Needed to check off the box. Don’t be a snitch.
@@switchunboxing Don't be an idiot.
Sounds like you tried to get someone evicted during a pandemic… yikes
@@nickc3657 U good with homeless moving into your house?
@@esteban1487 Squatters don't choose occupied houses.
THE number one police excuse to challenge ANYONE: "We got a call". So here they are, pursuing their "call". They're implying a "right" to interrogate you. Your right is to remain silent. "My lawyer friend advised me not to answer questions. Have a nice day/evening." Leave as soon as you are able.
If they persist, and say you're being detained . . . they don't have to tell you why or what their "reasonable suspicion" is. This can be VERY frustrating, especially when you're innocent and being harassed.
THIS HAPPENED: An over-eager local detective "got a call" from someone 3,000 miles away after they were "offended" by my comment on Facebook. This poor individual requested a "wellness check" to mess with me, and the detective happily obliged to flex his power/authority. He knocks on the door asking for me personally, and a family member lets him in. Now, standing in my house, he starts peering around to gather visual "suspicion". I ask him why he's stopping by to visit . . . "we got a call". I learned about "the call" by diffusing the situation however . . .
There have been deadly encounters with local police when internet psychos call in false reports of domestic violence with "active shooter" language . . . called being "S.W.A.T.-ED". Depending on the department, you may be in serious trouble as they need to save face for over-reacting to getting "a call".
What fascinated me is this:
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Officer Answers Phone: "Hello? Officer Smith. What can I help you with?"
Anonymous Caller: "There's a guy...he's got a gun. I think he may be getting ready to do something bad. Well. It LOOKED like a gun, under his coat. He's at [location]"
Officer: "We're on it! Stay where you are and do not engage!"
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Citizen Waiting for Uber: "Sirens...huh..."
Officers Rush In: "You! Stay where you are! Who are you? Give us ID!"
Citizen: "What? I was waiting for an uber to pick me up. What's this about?"
Officer: "Don't move! Hands on your head. We got a call... that someone had a gun and was threatening to use it on people. We're investigating and you look suspicious"
Citizen: "I just walked out of the restaurant 30 seconds before you got here....it's not me"
Officer: "LIAR!!!! LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!"
;)
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Cops will believe EVERYTHING you tell them over the phone. If you are face to face with them, it's the opposite. They believe NOTHING you tell them.
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I blame this phenomenon on two things:
ONE: They are trained and taught... "You are who people call when they are in trouble. Believe what the person on the phone is saying, because you aren't there. If it sounds strange, so be it. You are there to help THEM and keep them calm"
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TWO: "They are trained and taught (every morning at role call...)... "You are dealing with potential murderers, psychopaths and terrorists. Don't believe the person you are dealing with. They may be just waiting for you to let down your guard so they can KILL YOU! Don't become a statistic! Take them down and restrain them BEFORE they can kill you!"
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Ergo... Phone = True/Safe .... In Person = Lies/Unsafe
Don't reveal or disclose personal information such as your location on public sites like Facebook.
@@hueowen2786 Better yet... don't be on Facebook. Or Twitter. Or Instagram. Or...well... you get the picture. If you want to be really careful (and both confuse and annoy people, especially government and LEO's)...don't own a cell phone.
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For me? Yes to those except TH-cam here; oh, and I *think* I signed up for Instagram years and years ago...but never 'validated' or used it because, well...I don't have a cell phone.
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:)
"We got a call about somebody matching your description" is a popular one they use out on the street when they want to check you out.
I've seen it used on homeless people on several occasions out in LA and it happened to my brother and I while we were getting into the car in a Walmart parking lot in the outlying area of Hacienda Heights. They ran our ID and made us empty our pockets and everything.
@@psy2mentor Yup...another case of the courts "turning a blind eye", so to speak.
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They (courts/judges) would never let a citizen get away with "Well, I was pretty sure it was my neighbour, because the description I was given by a stranger described who he saw...and that fits my neighbour"... and accept that as actual evidence and nothing else.
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Because that's what happens: LEO's abuse citizens Constitutional Rights... "but it's ok, because they had a description that mostly fit you that they got from a stranger".
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When a cop is "detaining you... LAWFULLY", you need to do on set of specific things: remain there, and give ID/name/birthday. That's it. You probably (I think this may be a State by State thing?) must also allow a 'pat down' for them to check for weapons.
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You do NOT have to say a WORD to them and they have NO right to search you, your backpack, your car, your pockets, or even the container of grandma's lasagna you are taking to a friend. If they try and tell you to "empty your pockets"...don't. That's an "illegal search/seizure". Don't do their job for them. They are looking for ANYTHING that they can claim was "illegal or gave the impression of a crime being committed"...like a wadded up ball of lint. "We thought it was a piece of Crack, your honour. So that gave us probably cause".
About 30 years ago my friend's grandfather was dealing with the Seattle Police department there were some troublemaker kids in the neighborhood who would often claim that other people had done things they were responsible for. One night when the kids had been home because three of them were sick out of four kids some police knocked on the door claiming that his kids had been out throwing eggs to what she said that was not true because they were sick and they had only just finished up dinner.
My friend's grandfather was talking to them through the screen door with it locked they asked him if he had been drinking and wanted him to step out onto the front porch to talk with them and of course he knew that was a trap so he stayed inside. I get that in law enforcement sometimes it can be beneficial to do these things but a vast majority of the time it isn't and innocent until proven guilty is very important I'm so sick of authority being abused
This is so true. A lot of times, the moment you avoid the petty small talk, they accuse you of being nervous or belligerent. So annoying and obvious.
'Why are you shaking so much/acting nervous " asks the officer with the fully loaded gun
Being nervous is not a crime. It is a mental condition.
@@1pcfred ah yes if there is fire in your house that is your mental condition not a crises needing urgent action-sarcasm
@@billjoe39 if there is a fire in my house I'll be able to figure that out for myself. I have seen fire. I actually have an incredible smoke detector system in my house. A deaf person can hear it when it's going off. I just had to change them all not too long ago. They're hardwired to each other with battery back up. The works. So if one goes off they all go off. Was a pain in the ass to dispose of the old detectors. I had to send them away.
@@1pcfred I see you're an abstract thinker, Paul - sarcasm
"I'm your lawyer friend, and I advise you, don't talk to the police" WORDS OF WISDOM for sure
"i would make a video but mine would just be me not talking so pretty short." or maybe just write it down and show them. im a law...liar dont make me have to make a citizens arrest"
Good lord, great video. Cops arrested me for drunk in public while treating a dude who passed out from cheap vodka. I'm a biochemist and a nurse, but talked too much after questioned by the police and was arrested for treating *my* patient. After some distance, asked the EMTs what his pulse-oxygen level was, got my arm locked and cuffs on.
Thanks mate. A million times, thanks.
A friend of mine didn't open the door, and said thru the door "I think you have the wrong apartment". They broke down the door, grabbed her, and took her to the hospital psyche ward. She found out later that another friend had called them and asked them to do a wellness check, because she wasn't answering her phone.
Woah-WHAT
@@blueskies773 I found out later that her other friend had said she might be contemplating suicide.
@@merrymata2547 Well that one detail changes the whole story, doesn't it?
@@tinderbox218 Yes, it does. I didn't know that last year when I made the comment. Just found out recently.
@@merrymata2547 the comment sounds very extreme without any reasonable reasoning, police knocks the door, person says "wrong house", bang the door is broken and now the person is in a psych ward just cuz they weren't answering their phone and a friend called the police just cuz of that
every lawyer ive watched has told me in one form or another that cops actively seek any prosecution they can find, even when youre totally innocent.
I don't believe you LOL Because I've personally met MANY cops that don't want to bother doing unnecessary paper work that will end up embarrassing them if it's over nothing or something too small... If they're trying to pin something small on someone, it's because it makes it easier to catch them doing bigger things later. It is extremely hard to investigate someone who's never had any record before... so putting things on there just opens the door to catch more criminals.
@@pieRana believe deez nuts lmao
@@rarecandy3445 FLAWLESS VICTORY
That's what happens when they have those stupid arrest number goals.
@@pieRana It may be about showing results. It has become a problem over here when the police concentrate on easily solvable petty crimes while ignoring the complicated serious ones since they get a better statistic of solved cases. I can definitely see them trying to snare people for stuff no one really care about. Besides real criminals are more often armed and dangerous.
This reminds me of the time a cop "engaged" me in conversation. I'd just alighted from the bus and was walking to the bank. In front of the bank were two youths sitting handcuffed on the curb as police milled about them. I had no intentions of getting involved in the situation. However, one cop noticed me as I tried to walk past the area. He smiled and remarked some nonsense about withdrawing some extra funds for him. Of course, with my being black, he was fishing for signs of complicity. I placed my hands on my hips and asked, "what's going on?" Allowing my jacket to open and my *U.S. State Dept.* badge to appear. He stopped with the inquiries, made some inconsequential remarks, and I continued on to my business with the bank.
So i guess the lesson is, always have a U.S. State Department badge under your jacket. Good to know.
@@BrightBlueJim Lol...Actually, the lesson is City and State employees are reluctant interact with Federal employees the way they would with everyday citizens. They assume we know both city and federal laws. And that federal rights *trump cards* city laws every time.
@@thequietrevolution3404 Ah, you haven't been to the People's Republic of Oregon, then. In Portland, they told the federal "Homeland Security" forces to get the hell out of their town.
Wow, an armed government agent asked you to withdraw money to give to him?? You should have legally pursued that later.
your story is "sus".....if were true, you would have told us, he then proceeded to fall on his knees and lick your shoes!!!😂😂😂❤
Unfortunately, when interacting with law enforcement, you are at their whim. The defense of your rights occur in a courtroom, long after law enforcement has their way with you. You best bet is record the incident via video/audio so that proof of any abuse of power can be used in court for a settlement.
I wish people would pressure local news outlets to tally up the number of settlements your city/town pays out yearly on behalf of the police. That's when you will see change occur.
ALWAYS record interactions with the law. It is your constitutional right!!
If we had more people like you in our government, and less banksters, lawyers, etc.. problems would get solved
But its tough to defend your rights in court if you don't invoke them when dealing with the police.
Video is no substitute for the Bill of Rights. And keep in mind, that same video can be used against you, as prosecutors craft their own narrative.
@@bunkyman8097 Not much to record if you invoke your 5th Amendment rights.
Most people think that by recording they are righteous, so they jabber to cops and incriminate themselves.
🚫 Yes, and unfortunately our basic rights are under assault like never before, by the democratic party and their communications department(ie. the "news" media). Radical leftist Democrat prosecutors and DA's are routinely refusing to prosecute actual violent criminals, releasing them back onto the streets! Even when they do file charges, they often release violent suspects with little to no bail!
But in the meantime, democrats are now involved in political prosecutions of innocent people, just for defending themselves against the violent felons that these same prosecutors keep releasing! They and other radical leftists are now promoting the notion that due process is a bad thing, and that we shouldn't have the right to due process!
Some claim that a when person is allowed to defend himself in court, with due process, that equals "white privilege"! They obviously want a system where they merely make arbitrary accusations, and the person should be "proclaimed" guilty based on politically motivated narratives, NOT FACTS OR EVIDENCE!!
"We don't have to be jerks when flexing our rights"- That's one of the best, and most often overlooked, pieces of advice. All the rights in the world might be on one's side, but just like any other situation in life, being a jerk and antagonizing the officer just seems to make matters worse, as seen in so many videos. There are 'alpha' type cops that politeness is wasted on, but usually polite while firm is the best way to go.
A lot of the "audit" and interaction videos I see floating around have *both* sides being aggressive. Not a good combo.
@@Andrewflusche 👍
Some of the best advice. In the present climate of FTP and lack of respect for LEO's, we have to keep in mind they are prepared for a life and death battle at every interchange. Know and exercise your rights, but do it in a calm civil manner. A face full of mace and a taser is not a fun ride.
Correct. The police are very fragile. I saw a video of the police in an unmarked car blocking the street. Some guy driving behind them honked. The police lost their minds on the guy. How was he to know they were the police? They finally let
the guy go when he called his mother (also a police officer).
@@Andrewflusche The problem is that a lot of police think that exercising your rights cordially is being an aggressive, uncooperative, jerk. I simply don't talk to police, ever.
Don't ever come to the door unless you invited someone in advance. Most likely it would be salesmen who will try to sale you something you don't need. It could be robbers who would rob or kill you. It could be the police who would arrest or kill you. In all cases you might lose your time or money or your life. Just ignore it. If someone really needs to contact you they can phone you, or send you a mail or email.
That's the policy in my home.
The problem is that they very often retaliate. I refused ID to a random cop stopping me on the sidewalk. I "looked suspicious" apparently. That is actually correct as I'm autistic and stop and stare at random things I think look neat. I just said "leave me alone I'm not comfortable with strangers". He followed me to my car. A little way down the road I was pulled over and sat for 45 minutes until he finally came back with my ID and said it would have been easier if I'd just complied in the first place. Now I'm worried I'm in the system as a "trouble maker to be concerned about" possibly.
No worries. He will get his eventually. what Goes around comes around. Karma Is called a bitch for a reason. Only happens to bitches. And yeah. He will get his. All u got to do is lay back and chill. Life will get him.
So easy does it. I hate em. Even tho my bro was a police officer..he never abused his position like alot of these weak minded life rapists do.. so try not to stress too much. Ain't worth it. That fukn cop ain't worth any stress..
@@dharmabum2838 that's BS
That's an unlawful stop. Technically, you could sue because the stop itself was illegal.
@@WardenWolf Unfortunately, in many areas it is legal to make a pretext stop (these might be legal everywhere - I'm not going to research exceptions).
A pretext stop happens when a police officer pulls you over for a minor traffic violation, but is looking for other evidence that a crime has been committed. Even more unfortunately, the traffic laws in most states allow police to ticket you for the most minor of infractions, such as going one mph above the speed limit, not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, and a bunch of stuff that is up to the discretion of the officer. For instance, I was once pulled over for a seatbelt violation - we were all wearing our seatbelts, but good luck proving that, and even if you do prove it, the officer can just say he or she made an honest mistake. We had driven around that town with no issues, until we took a Mexican guy for a drive, because he was interested in purchasing that car. I didn't get a ticket, but he had a lot of questions for the Mexican fellow sitting in the backseat.
In Whren v. United States (1996), the SCOTUS said this is perfectly Constitutional, although some state constitutions may say otherwise.
The best tactic is probably to just sit down and wait, or walk away and NOT get in your vehicle. If you do walk away, be mindful not to violate some stupid law like spitting on the sidewalk, loitering, or jaywalking.
It's a sad state of affairs, and we desperately need reform in the criminal justice system. The U.S. imprisons more people than Stalin did.
@@myblacklab7 "The U.S. imprisons more people than Stalin ever did"
To be fair that's probably because Stalin put more people in graves than in jails
“I need to see some ID.”
“Let me ask you, do you always carry ID on you?”
“Of course I do”
“Well then, you are free to look at yours any time you feel the ‘need’ to see ID.” 😁
I like it!
Police have no fucking sense of humor,, what they do, they think its funny as hell the noise you make when they hit you with the flashlight
@@dennisjones9044 what makes you think I was joking? 😉
Is that what you need? Do you only care about your own needs? What about my needs? Do you care about my needs? What if I really need 100 bucks right now? Why are you delaying me from lawfully obtaining money that I may need? Are you going to reimburse me for my time wasted talking to you?
😄 try that and let us know how it works 😄
Thank you for this, I consider it a Public Service Announcement!
After nearly getting sentenced because I believed in cops I learned the truth! Now 20 years later I tell it to my sons and I show this to them from you!
Police are not the friendly caretakers of the public they pretend to be, your words of wisdom are appreciated. THANK YOU!!
I had an experience where the police came to my door when my brother and I were home alone, I did not open it for about 5 minutes but they kept knocking. I opened it and turned out my apartment building was on fire. My dog jumped all over the officer and I think he was annoyed but thank god I checked.
they should have been yelling that while they were knocking in the first place
@@churro6160 Yeah, "YOUR HOME IS ON FIRE" would be more helpful, but noooo
I am legitimately mostly deaf in my left ear. When I don't wear my hearing aid it's very difficult to hear anything, especially with any kind of background noise interfering with my concentration. When I got pulled over a few years ago on a busy, noisy Road for a missing headlight I used that excuse to force the cop to ratchet up louder and louder so I could hear her. By the time I got through she was almost screaming at me while standing on the roadway just so I could hear her. It got pretty funny.
You're lucky that it wasn't Officer Ian Birk, Seattle Police Dept.
@@stevesestrich5143 is mr. Birk a mute, or does he just not like complying with the ADA?
@@TheOriginalRick Search the name here on TH-cam.
@@stevesestrich5143 I just watched that video if Ian Birke. That was sickening. And it's absolutely dispicable that it was determined that the shooting was NOT justified, but the prosecutor refused to charge the officer. Any officers and bootlickers can't figure out why society doesn't trust them.
My son was walking the dog when he was approached by a police officer and asked if he had heard any gunshots in the area (it was the day after the Victoria Day weekend, when there's usually a lot of fireworks). My son felt it a bit odd that HE, being black in a mostly white neighbourhood, was the one approached. Fortunately, the dog started growling at the cop who quickly cut the conversation short and left. Bottom line: the dog was offering sound legal advice.
That dog knew what was going on 💀💀
The dog was lucky not to be shot dead on the spot!
You believe your son was approached because he was black. What leads you to believe that? If I was investigating a report of gunshots, I would approach anyone walking in the area to question them. The officer probably did not suspect your son because he was walking his dog and dogs do not react well to gunshots. He probably was trying to get a better location on the gunfire and someone outdoors is going to be able to better give a direction on the gunfire than someone inside.
Glad your son's dog didn't get shot. 👍
@@interstellarsurfer He was a local cop, not Federal.
ABSOLUTELY 100%!! I had a situation where a simple traffic stop lead to a search of my vehicle because my passenger wouldn't shut the fuck up. It was because of this I do not give rides to co-workers.
That happened to me a few times I grew up in a bunch of hoods! Lol my boys I grew up with they wouldn't stop mouthing off I used to get ripped out of the car all the time I had to throw around cops names so I wouldn't get arrested lmao the best one is when I played retarded they always fell for that one I'm a pretty good actor
@@dionysius1b870 How many freakin' times are you pulled over?
@@dionysius1b870 I had some good ones when I was younger. I'm in the front passenger seat when they pull over my buddies Mustang. Officer #2 shines a light in the back on my buddies face. "Do you have a criminal record" So I said "Does he look like a criminal?" Officer #2 says "I don't judge people on how they look" So I said "Well what else did you have to go on then?"
Another one we get pulled over and the officer reads me the riot act and asks me what I have to say for myself. I told him we just got in the car and drove around the corner and I wasn't driving longer than 10 seconds. No answer, stomps back to his car and takes off.
Another one, they pull us over. Officer #2 who is visibly younger than me says "Don't I know you?" So I said "Probably, when I went to high school the bus dropped us of in front of a public school where the kindergarten class can see the street. You probably saw me through the window when I got off the bus."
Another one they separated us and tried to find inconsistencies in our stories. I quickly said to my friend "We went to visit your buddy who I do not know in a place I do not know for a reason I do not know."
Officer #2 "Where were you coming from?"
Me "My buddy's friends house"
Officer #2 "What were you doing there?"
Me "I don't know"
Officer #2 "Where does he live?"
Me "I don't know"
Officer #2 "What was his name?"
Me "I don't know"
Officer #2 "You don't seem to know anything"
Me "OK"
Officer #2 "I don't understand how you don't know anything"
Me "I like the car, so I came along for the ride"
Don't ask me what my buddy told the other officer. I don't know.
The other night I had someone that was trying to scam me in the hospital parking lot. I said "I don't understand" at least 5 times and then he said "Forget it" and walked off....
Here are few tips for you
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@@dionysius1b870 yea okay kid
Fun bit of information from the UK. The police like to engage in harassment as part of normal policing, showing up without cause, or warrants to people's homes to bother them about any number of nonsensical UK law they would like to arrest someone for but have no evidence of. If you open the door rather than just yelling at them through the door the officer will almost always take a step into the home or always at least move their foot into the door jam. Now no matter how much you tell them to leave, scream at them to get out of your house, tell the to remove their foot from your door or otherwise bugger off you can't get rid of them OR block their vision of the inside of your home because if that door for any reason so much as brushes them they will claim you assaulted the office and force entry arrest the you and then toss your home doing a warrantless search.
Even if you record yourself telling the police constantly to get out of your house and to clear the door for 20min+ those officers will not be punished internally or criminally.
Never open your door for anyone, and never talk to the police.
My house has a window on the 2nd floor (my bedroom). for 28 years here, when the doorbell rings, I go to the window and say "hello".....this way I don`t have to close the door on them Harry Krishna's haha but just say "No thanks". If its the cops, I`ll say "what's going on?" and have the conversation from the 2nd floor. Normally I`m happy to chat with cops anytime, but starting to change my mind after watching these videos lessons Jesus!
Hari
You earned every bit of that. You all made your beds.
They don't need evidence in the UK you can be arrested merely on suspicion of a crime.
Hey don't we put people in cages for a very long time for doing these things?😁 weird how a badge and a uniform essentially makes you god
It's crazy that you can't trust someone who's supposed to protect you. America amazes me every day!
@OHM..you are wrong! Cops are NOT here to protect the people...they are here to enforce the laws that many of them do not know!
I was interviewed by police at the station once, and after we finished talking about what happened, he started asking more personal questions, which I thought was weird. When he started asking questions about my video games, specificly about if I like GTA(which I don't, but I found the question oddly specific), then if I like to be a good guy or bad guy, I had enough and asked if there was a point to these questions. He mumbled something about "getting to know me", and pretty much ended the interview there.
So the obvious question here we all now have....Do you like GTA? lolol
@@melsop54 No, I don't, and he actually seemed to be thrown off by that.
What was the context of the interview. Why were you called in
lmao maybe he liked you
Perfect asnwer to "getting to know me" is "are you trying to get in my pants?.
I grew up in a small town where we knew all the cops, and they all knew us. It was unthinkable then and there not to tell those cops everything. They worked for us, after all. And that's the problem. Rule #1 of crime fighting should _always_ be "never ever make an innocent person pay for the crimes of others" but increasingly citizens (often under the influence of certain power-grabbing politicians) tell the police that it's okay to just throw away the presumption of innocence when investigating a crime. Our society is only as free as we agree to let it be.
That's why we shouldn't have quota's that they need to fill.
This is at the root of societal breakdown, urbanisation and living around strangers.
Many of those politicians are ex-cops looking to get a permanent backer from the police lobby because they'll always increase police funding
Imagine being a police officer and nobody (not even personal friends and family) wants to talk to you 🤣
I have had this happen to me. I had been living in this country neighborhood about 7 years right beside my brother who had been living there since 1979. I walked down to the store and buy a pack of smokes about 3 or 4 times a week. Every week...for 7 years. Saw a new neighbor, waved, they waved back. Next thing I know...blue lights. Now, I am fully cognizant of my appearance..I look like someone you don't wanna meet in a dark alley. But fucking hell! I've lived here longer than you have officer.
They have no interest in small talk. Its all an attempt to try and find something to use against you.
Instead of "am I free to leave", what do you think about asking "am I being detained" and replying to the "no" with "okay, I'm leaving then"? I ask because years ago I was walking to a 24h clay throwing event with some other people and we got stopped by the police on the walk over (~2am). They kept giving me contradictory answers to "am I being detained" and "am I free to go" - "no" to both despite the fact that is self-contradictory. Afterwards, I changed my approach in such situations to only asking if I'm being detained and then, upon being told "no", indicating my intent to leave. It seems to break the script of police dishonesty because they have to actively stop/detain you through words or official actions once they've said you're not being detained. What do you think about this approach from a legal perspective (not acting as my or anyone else's attorney in your answer and forming no explicit nor implied attorney-client relationship)?
Walking or hiking anywhere now will get you arrested. Hiking and meeting a park ranger will also. The Patriot Act and qualified immunity gives anyone with a badge the legal but not moral right to harass the most powerful judges and mayors although they are usually in bed so they go after the ordinary, weak, innocent citizen. Police are the biggest threat to freedom in the United States and were never meant to exist Constitutionally. They are merely thugs with a hero complex. Also,beware of first responders,who now have police powers as do postal workers, social workers, bankers,dog catchers, etc. Anyone with a public job is to be avoided.
"Am I free to leave" has a higher "positive index" than ""Am I being detained?" It is less challenging, and this is ALWAYS a good thing when dealing with cops.
If they say "no" to being detained, then say, "Have a good night", and leave.
@@SoloPilot6 On the other hand, "am I being detained" puts them on the defensive because they know there must be a reason for the detention.
@@Tawnos_ You don't WANT the cop to feel like he's on the defensive -- his instinctive response (just like yours would be) is to rise against the challenge, and is training and experience remind him that thousands of cops get their names on memorials by losing control of situations that started out just this casual and easy. Why would you think that the cop doesn't know that there has to be a reason for THIS detention, just like the other 27,855 citizen contacts he's made in his career? By putting the question in a non-challenging way and tone, there's no escalation, and it's easier to keep it that way. Remember Job One for a cop is to go home at the end of shift, and on HIS OWN FEET. If you make him think that you might keep this from happening, he's going to react the same way that YOU would, with the roles reversed.
When the cops were screwing me over I just kept repeating '5th amendment' to literally any question they asked. After about 20 of those I finally said "You aren't here on a social call, you don't have to make small talk."
Yeah, it's important to remember that pleading the 5th isnt an admission of guilt, because you never know when something you say could actually be a crime you didnt know about or be viewed as "probable cause" to force a search without consent.
Similarly, do no consent to searches. Even if you have nothing to hide that you are aware of, you never know when they will happen to find something
Also, it’s important to express your intent to invoke your 5th amendment right. I remember the channel “Audit the Audit” talking about that.
@Inferno..or find something they planted?
My uncle was a cop. He said, “Never talk to cops. Even if innocent. Don’t!”
Wow. Just wow. This guy is crammed and jammed with basic info on how to level the police playing field. Every single time I listen to a clip I learn a couple of new ways to protect my rights that thousands of servicemen have died for.
So they explained he was innocent and the mistake and the police left! Otherwise they would have handcuffed and patted him down for their protection and identify him. So just taking more time and possibly ending badly if you resist or refuse to ID! 🤦♂️🤣
GOD BLESS YOU FROM WARREN HALL AND DONALD HALL 101ST AIRBOURNE DIVISION ..DROPPED IN NORMANDY FRANCE ON D-DAY- JUNE 6TH 1944...
@@warrenhall7060 Hi Warren. Were you part of D-day?
Lawyers would rather you call them, so they can suck you dry with legal fees. 🤫
yep, just let me know when you try to actually protect your rights when you're cuffed and being kicked in the ribs, i bet your rights matter very much over cock blocking a cops job ...i bet that'll swing your way any time now
So sad that “protect and serve” is a giant lie.
So says SCOTUS
That slogan doesn't say whom or what they protect and serve, so technically it's not a lie. It's your job to understand that they protect and serve something other than you.
They protect and serve the State.
They left off 'the rich'
Police were created to "protect property rights of the rich". (Runaway slaves).
I'm thankful for content creators that make extremely useful videos like this one. Knowing how to handle the cops got me out of a potentially bad situation a couple years ago. I smoke weed in a non legal state. My usual connect was out and I had to go to someone I didn't know that well. Turns out he was being watched by the police. So I go to his apartment, get an eighth, and drive back home. I end up getting pulled even though they had no good reason. I still dumbly answered their questions and he gave me a warning ticket for not signaling long enough while changing lanes. (Just an excuse to pull me but a very weak one). After he gives me the ticket then asks to search my car and I say no. He tried to get a warrant but got denied because he had no probable cause and I called him out on it before he called in the warrant. If not for these type of videos I would have just said yes to the search thinking if I said no they would search it anyway and it would be worse. I really wish my state would legalize rec use so I didn't have to be a criminal.
I have nothing against CBD oil or cannabis in edible form, but _smoking_ weed? That's just gross man. You might as well drink pickle juice
I remember an episode of cops where a woman had been pulled over, I don't remember why. The cop asked her where she was coming from, and she was pretty rude about telling him it was none of his business. He then asked her where she was going and she said she didn't have to tell him that either. I kept expecting him to arrest her for refusing to cooperate or something but in the end he had to let her go. He was fishing and she wasn't biting. That was the first time I realized you could just not answer their questions.
But i grew up in a small town where I went to school with the cops kids, etc, they weren't the big city thug types. So I generally will talk to the cops when I get pulled over even though I suppose it would be a bad idea if I was trying to hide anything.
The last time I got pulled over the cop asked me where I was going and I told her (and I quote), "Here and there, hither and yon, to and fro." I then asked her if that was specific enough or did I need to give more detail. She frowned, then asked where I was coming from. I looked at her, laughed, and asked, "Seriously?" She dropped the questions after that
When they ask where you're coming from always say the bar. If they ask where you're going say their house. You have a date. They love that one!
I'm autistic and was arrested numerous times during a tumultuous youth. I've never seen anyone as confused as the police not quite realising their interrogation techniques didn't work in any way whatsoever
While I appreciate your sound legal advice, in the not-perfect world, you close a door on a cop while refusing to talk to him and thinking he's just going to walk away is naive. If in a traffic stop a cop asks if he can search my car, I will refuse (it's my right), knowing full well that the cop will become suspicious and probably call a canine unit that will falsely alert on my car so he can trump up a bogus reason to search my car and find nothing. My rights will cause me a delay and aggravation, but that's how it goes.
💯 REAL RAP!
Yep
The dog is trained to alert to plastic and leather and carpet 😎
@@billyrayvalentine7972 My assumption is that cops can come up with anything for a "probable cause" search if they want - no matter how ludicrous it is.
I see noone in this comment section has any LE background...
Years ago I was at a friends house. We could see some people walking around in his yard. Saw that it was the police. They knocked on the door. My friend answered them without opening the door. They said they were looking for his sister. Who wasn't there? But wanted to come inside. My friend would not let them. They kept on saying we wanted to just wanna talk. We just wanna talk. My friend asked the officer well, is there another cop out there with you officers like yes, talk to him. And we went back to what we were doing. I laughed so hard.
Never talk to the cops, not a word. Don't answer the door. Make them work for every bit of their "evidence". Don't give them anything ever.
"The police were polite and cordial the whole time" When a cop is being nice to you for no reason, there's a reason!!
It's a basic "Officer Friendly" *tactic* Taught in police academies
@@timmattle4730 The reason for it is bad.
@@timmattle4730 In my opinion? Cordial is always the way to go. There's very little in the way of controlling the tactics of others.
Unfortunately today's law enforcement are taught the people are an enemy and not people to serve. My parents are both retired with 27 and 28 years under their belts respectively. Uncle was a cop for 30, and cousins on the force. I have friends on the force.
There is a huge difference, in my observations and observations of older LEOs that today's cops are a far cry from their generation and are increasingly militarized and are taught in academies to view people as threats.
Do ALL cops conduct themselves in this manner? Of course not. But there was less of a pool to draw from for candidates when GWOT started. I wish I could remember the report written about it and should I find it again I'd be more than happy to link it.
That said, I do not trust cops, as a general rule, to help us. My experience with them, as partly stated, is family of blue and working with them professionally when my prior job necessitated their involvement and I had to get between them and someone who was mentally deficient. Also had interactions with them as a normal day to day civilian. So, you can take my opinion with a grain of salt but I'd highly suggest you just assume any cop who initiates contact with you is not your friend and someone who is conducting an investigation and act accordingly.
@@timmattle4730 Yes, the motivation to be nice is bad. Not the act itself. Clarified enough?
@@timmattle4730 The FBI's website actually has a page dedicated to the militarization of law enforcement. It is taught to treat everyone as a threat and potential suspect.
Once, many years ago, I was working for a newspaper in California in the delivery department. My job was to take newspapers to carriers who delivered them. This was back when kids still delivered papers on their bikes. I was at a house where I was dropping off some bundles when the police showed up, apparently responding to a call that there was some disturbance or something. I told them what I was doing, and they asked for my license, which I gave them, and they disappeared somewhere and didn't bring me my license back for well over an hour. I was very late finishing my route that morning. My boss started in at me about it, but I explained what had happened and they decided it wasn't my fault. But I've often wondered about the legality of what the police did in that situation.
My family did papers for years. Cops pulled over all one time or another. Some thought it was funny to scare us even.
Legality? Police don't need no legality. The law is for you, not them, to follow.
The law enforcement license to lie bugs the heck out of me! Thank you for the videos. Very enlightening!
The last interaction I had with a LEO went well. I hit a 300lb black bear going 70mph(me, not the bear). It was 1AM on the highway. I KNEW he would make small talk to asses sobriety which wasn't a big deal as I don't drink. I explained what happened and that I would refuse medical treatment. The truck was totaled and not drivable and I was 45 miles from home. He offered to drive me about 15 miles up the road to a gas station to wait for my wife rather than on the roadside. There ARE still some good cops out there...
I would have walked.
@@scottgoodman8993 Even with 🐻 bears 🐻 roaming around in the dead of night?
@TakeDeadAim
He gets an atta boy for that, but that's just a tiny part of one day.
A blind pig finds a nut every so often !
well, it's different when you hit a bear as opposed to say , having 100 pounds of cocaine in your backseat and still protesting your rights to not be searched , and the fact you are probably white. makes a HUGE difference doesn't it?
So, because of the disingenuous, unethical, and deceptive nature of how the police operate, they *never* make _"smalltalk"_ for the sake of making _"smalltalk."_ It's safe to assume the police are _"working an angle"_ when ever they engage in conversation. Got it.
In 2012, I was stopped in Racine WI. After handling the officer my documents, he laughed lightly saying _"hey we have the same insurance company."_ I kept the same blank facial expression looking straight ahead, not responding to his statement. I think he got the message because he didn't try that again. If he would have asked _"is there any reason you were going so fast?"_ I would have responded by asking him for his name and badge number.
I’m a retired 25 year officer. I found that if I humbled myself and treated people with respect - no matter their social or financial status - people appreciated it. And I never entered anyones house without their permission…unless of emergency. I’ve had people I’ve arrested approach me and thank me for treating them with respect. Worked for me, but I love Jesus and that’s His example.
I still wouldn't talk to you.
@@patpat8727 lol
🖕🖕🖕🖕 jesus
@@patpat8727 based
i have a lawyer friend named andrew, and he advised me not to talk to you.......😮😅
I had something similar happen to me when I was living at home still. I was up working on a paper for school at around 11 PM and needed a break, so put on my hoodie and went for a jog. I barely made it around my block when a police officer yelled at me from a car to stop. Turned out they had supposedly heard a report of someone suspicious in dark clothing, so I had to sit on the curb while he ran my ID, be given the flashlight test, and answer all sorts of questions about what I was doing, where I lived, etc. That was bad enough, but then another officer arrived in an unmarked(!) car and the questions continued, and they did the flashlight test again. I was pretty dumbfounded when he then said they suspected I was on something because my pupils were not responding the normal way - I could only laugh because at this point in my life I didn't even drink, I even offered to take a urine test.
In the end, after a half hour or so of being treated like a criminal, they finally let me go home, but (according to the officer) only because I lived nearby.
I'm not even sure what I would suggest to people to avoid a situation like this. I guess, if you're young and in the suburbs, don't jog with a hoodie? And know that the police are often not your friend, unfortunately.
I guess you should definitely be able to jog with whatever clothes you wanna wear
Advise to people is leave the country. Or push for police reform.
@@gingermuffin4292 To tell you the truth, I did leave. I took a job in Switzerland of all places. And as much as I miss some things it's a little depressing when I go back to visit now.
@@gingermuffin4292 Too bad the police are worse (read: more aggressive) in most other countries including so-called enlightened, modern, progressive western Europe. See the UK example above.
To be fair, the hoodie is the most suspicious article of clothing. Just wear a scarf if you're cold and eat a croissant. Nothing suspicious about that.
Nothing against cops but this is the reason I joined the fire department. Whether it be in the capacity of a Paramedic or actual fire suppression people implicitly trust me. They can't get me in their homes fast enough lol.
Firefighters and paramedics perform necessary services and don't exist to collect revenue. The very nature of the position allows us to trust you, and limits your opportunities to abuse. If taxes stopped today, I'd still be willing to pay for fire departments.
@@Heather-xm9ul That's one of the greatest compliments I've ever received lol. Thank you
@@BULL.173 I mean it. There are a few jobs that I view as absolutely essential, no matter what! Firefighters are number one. Your skills are too diverse, too needed! I'll always support the FDs.
Does that mean "You've...always...been...the caretaker...SIR!"
@@GoonSquadLifeMember lol Yes, and I should know. I've ALWAYS been here
Perhaps a future video on what constitutes "what a reasonable person would beleive" would be useful.
"Am I free to leave " usually not answered in the affirmative or negative.
Usually it's "I/we need to talk to you"
The courts have generally set the standard of "what a reasonable person would believe"
Would a reasonable person beleive they could go if the police evade / refused to answer / didn't answer a clear "yes" or "no" to the "Am I detained?" "Am I free to leave?" questions ?
Everyday reasonable citizens don't get to decide it seems what is reasonable.
That’s exactly the question I had too. Many times, cops simply don’t answer the question. But don’t let you leave. But also don’t articulate any reasonable suspicion. They want it both ways. What do you do then?
@@vallee7966 I would assume I AM free to leave and they don't want to tell me. Keep repeating the question until you get the answer.
I'm not a lawyer, but best guess, after some standard caveats:
Read the officer's attitude, first of all, because you'd rather win an unlawful detention suit yourself than have it won by your next of kin. Do not do the following if the officer is looking all wide-eyed and itchy-fingered. Do not imagine you can say the magic words to the air; you need to give the officer the chance to say you're being detained or arrested. Do be obviously patient and calm, do speak clearly, do let a dash or body cam see your body language and if possible your lips moving.
"Am I free to leave?" "I need to talk to you." "I understand that this is a voluntary conversation unless you tell me it's not. Am I free to leave?" "How come you don't want to talk to me?" "Doesn't matter, it's my right to leave a voluntary conversation. Am I free to leave?" "Oh, you 'just know your rights', do you?" "I believe this is a voluntary conversation and I'm going to leave."
At that point either you leave, or you'll have to start asking for their reasonable suspicion (if detained)/probable cause (if arrested), refusing to consent to searches, refusing to answer questions without legal counsel, etc.
Usually I get 'we are just having a conversation' and I say 'that's a yes. Then' and start walking. At that point, as far as I'm concerned, they have to formally tell me I'm being detained. (I have no idea of that will hold up on court, so not legal advice, it that's how I handle it)
An actual reasonable person or a clown with many props?
What happens when you ask if youre free to leave, but they avoid the question and keep trying to change the subject or ignore your question? That's what they normally do 99% of the time. They just repeat the last command they gave you or get you into some circle talk
Just repeat your question, but not rudely. Like “Hm? But I am free to go? I don’t quite understand.”
@@Creepystalker102 after about the 3rd repetition, it's time to get obstinate "I will not speak with you until you answer my question" then rude "answer my fu&ing question, @ssklown", THEN state clearly that refusal to provide a direct answer will be taken as an affirmative answer, and ask again. If the next word out of his mouth is not "no", turn and walk away. Be sure you record at least that last part for CYA later. Got the "obstinate" and direct answer parts from a badged friend - not just any badge: his says "Sheriff" (not deputy...)
“We don’t have to be jerks when flexing our rights.” Thank you for this message, it’s great to hear someone put it this way. I made the mistake of watching a few videos on a channel that was all about “auditing” the police, and every video involved someone being an absolute a-hole to the cops, and practically DARING them to make an arrest. Shameful behavior.
@@reddawg6748 Show me where I said that. Please, take your time.
Incorrect @RedDawg, but good luck with your reading comprehension next time.
I'm reapectful up until the point a low IQ public servant who forgets their place (which isnt as my master yet they seem to think it is) tries to outsmart me by fishing or straight up lying to me. If you want respect you have to give it first. After that the snark escalates exponentially as is my Constitutional right.
I've literally learned all ID laws in the places that I travel. For example:
Cop: You got ID ? (While using fingers to demonstrate his manhood)
Me: Not for you.
Cop: You wanna go to jail?
Me: You wanna lose your QI?!
Cop: Now, here's the deal..
Me: Fl statute 901.151 States that I am not obligated to shoe ID until I am UNDER ARREST.
Cop: Are you some kind of lawyer?!
Me: You know, IN THIS DAY AND AGE, In the "LAND OF THE FREE", that I have to learn every pertinent law, just to keep an armed government parasite at bay, pisses me off!
So, NO. I don't have to be a lawyer to know the law!
Just like I don't have to be a proctologist to know that I'm dealing with an ASSHOLE!
A Blue Isis Minion has a fragile tRUMp like ego
I think you need help if you've made assumptions of manhood. Bye Felicia 😂
@@keithstewart7514 bye racist
bang you died try agian
There are numerous occasions knowing the law quite simply WON'T Matter.
Great Channel sir. I wish I was educated like I am now years ago I would have avoided a lot of grief in my life and the victim of police brutality with permanent brain damage and PTSD I did Sue however it didn't stop the police from ruining my life
If a cop starts making small talk with me, I don't respond to what they said; rather, I just make totally unrelated small talk, and try to take up as much of their time as possible. After about 15 minutes, they wish me a good day and leave. However, I am a trained public speaker, and know how to tailor my language in such a way, as to not really say anything at all, so proceed with that at your own risk. Frankly, I find my time-wasting banter to be quite amusing.
That’s sounds great and all but since I’m a DV victim, my abuser use to pre-file false reports at the courthouse and also call in with false allegations over multiple jurisdictions in our large city. If I didn’t do exactly as I was told to do by my abuser for over 15 years, then my abuser would utilize power over me by calling the police. I subsequently would be going about as usual, police would show up. I would be questioned, searched and harassed for things I didn’t understand, thrown on the ground and taken to jail or a mental institution without any explanation. Each time I would bond or get myself out, beg to go back to by abuser because I had nothing at the time. I would then go to court and charges dropped without an attorney to help me. Today, I’m thankfully free with an IFP but no attorney or abuse center has told me how to repair the plethora of mug shots and dropped cases over those years of abuse. Please help?
I'm so sorry to hear what you've been through - unfortunately, it isn't an uncommon story.
You will want to get your records of arrest as organized as possible - there are different types of dismissal, rulings of not-guilty, etc. Get as much of the documentation as you are able - if you can figure out how to do it, you can usually request the records yourself. Court clerks can be very helpful - you'll want to call the court(s) where your trial(s) occurred.
If you have money for an attorney, look for one that specializes in expungements, etc. The less work the attorney has to do to obtain records, the less you'll have to pay them to do that stuff.
If you can't afford an attorney, look for scaled-fee or pro bono legal services. These tend to not be as high quality, but they sometimes are, and they can help a bit.
Many attorneys offer free consultations, so even if you can't afford one, you can call them and ask questions, and they will often give you good answers in the hopes that you'll eventually hire them. Don't say, "I can't afford an attorney," except maybe at the end of the conversation, if you want advice on where you can find lower-fee attorneys, and then only if you won't be calling the attorney back. Many (but not all) attorneys will be OK with giving you further advice, if you pay them for their time. Ask what their hourly rate is, and ask if you can pay them that for more help in the future. They might even be willing to have their paralegal/office staff do some of the paperwork for you, if you do all the other work yourself and sign a limited services agreement. The fee for this may be lower than the attorney's fee (most law offices separate billing, depending on which employee is doing the work - note that sole practitioners sometimes don't have any staff, so that wouldn't work with them).
If you have money, just find a good expungement attorney. If not, I'd suggest first consulting expungement attorneys, and then looking for low-fee or pro bono attorneys. I'd go with the expungement attorneys first so you have a sense of what it's possible to do before you talk to pro bono attorneys who may limit their services or not have the same level of expertise.
Finally, remember that this is a human process - if you sound like a client who has things together and will be easy to work for, that can really help, especially with solo practitioners. I saw a law firm drop a wealthy client for being too difficult to work with, and a lot of people don't realize that you're kind of being interviewed yourself when you consult an attorney, especially if you are asking for a non-standard sort of arrangement. Most lawyers vastly prefer just handling the entire case beginning to end, but they also love money, so offering them some money and being easy to work with can sometimes work.
Finally, be patient, and don't be discouraged if you get a rude or impatient lawyer. Just call another one - some lawyers are jerks, while others are great people. Don't talk about how unfair everything is, etc. - lawyers charge by the hour, and so you want to get straight to the point, unless you want to pay $100-$500 an hour to have someone listen to you vent.
I hope this is helpful - may better days lay ahead for you. :)
Just trying to figure out why someone would allow themselves to be treated in such a way...
Why in the world would you open your door to a stranger at any time, but especially 3am?
Police ARE strangers. Not only that, but they are strangers with guns, wearing a costume.
Thank You! Citizen are so naive to think Police are your friends. Every time I ever ask for help from the police they made it apparent that I was disturbing them. The entire concept of Community Oriented Policing is both an ideal and illusion.
Haha. Most of the "community policing" I see just consists of "ice cream with the Sheriff." That's merely a re-election ploy.
The only place on earth I've ever seen community policing was when i was stationed in Japan. But Japan is one of the safest countries in the world, so...
@@gcb345 Japan is really nice but you're totally screwed if you do get on the wrong side of the law. The legal system there doesn't provide as many protections as the US.
Funny, but I have had the same experience.
@@Strideo1 True. The Japanese police don't investigate so much as extract confessions. You can be held without charge for 29 days and they can literally interrogate you 24/7, beat you, chop off your fingers (both disfiguring you, and marking you as involved in organized crime). Guilt is assumed by Japanese police and courts.
Cop: I smell marijuana.
Me: No, you smell my broccoli farts.
Cop: I smell marijuana.
Me: He who smelt it smoked it.
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I'm a 6'2 Mexican guy . . . really dark skinned . . .I was always taught . . "stay as quiet as possible around the police". if they ask you anything just say "my lawyer advises me not to answer any police questions without an attorney present"
Just remember a Saul Goodman line to his client in detention "Have you said anything stupid? And by stupid I mean anything AT ALL"
It is easy. A man you do not know standing uninvited at your door with a gun is not your friend. He may have a good reason to be there, but to be your friend is not that reason.
The constantly repeated "don't talk to the police" has to be among the purest indications of how completely fucked up society has become.
It should NEVER be a worrying encounter for a law-abiding citizen to talk to police. If it is, it's because the police made very serious mistakes somewhere.
Or the laws are so complex (biased in some cases) that a person who is trying to follow the law and generally be a good person cant be sure they haven't accidentally done something wrong.
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It’s just the fact that police have power and people who like power tend to be bad people, so you get bad cops.
It's unfortunate, but the police talk to you to find things they can use. If those things are useful in a case against you, so be it. I don't have anything to be concerned about talking to the police, but it still puts me on edge because I know they don't have my best interest in mind.
Never in the history of man has anyone or their lawyer said, thank God I (or my client) talked to the police.
You know looking back at the school boy days. The teacher announcing that a policeman was to have a talk with the whole classroom.
They, the teacher, and the police saying that are your YOUR friends. Claiming they ARE part of the community, and are there to HELP you.
As you grow up, you learn that all of it is really the fatherst from the truth.
The village I live in none of the police officers live here so they are not part of my community. The chief says off the record that they don't recruit from the village for officer safety.
The teacher was not lying to you, the police do want to help innocent kids and do not want anything bad to happen to them. What has changed is that you are no longer an innocent kid.
Meanwhile, they're going through the school searching lockers
Had the talk in school 8th grade maybe ,back in the early 80s, I remember the cop saying if you smoke pot smoke it till it comes out of your ears so we can catch you and not have to deal with you anymore .....was thinking to my self why not just smoke a little now and then what’s wrong with that
@@jplum7708 ROTFL at the death by bacon and donut poisoning!
I like the idea of answering every question with a question. One of the first ones should be "am I free to go" if you are stuck there, just keep asking them about what they are doing and never answer their questions. Always record also.
Best advice don't answer the door
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My favorite technique is to respond; "What are you doing?" when an LEO asks me an odd question.
Which, honestly, is pretty damn rare.
Also, "why should I trust you?" and "why are you trying to violate my rights?"
Actually, I would not suggest using those questions. They are very likely to get you a response that you don’t want.
@@EchoTangoSuitcase Any response to those questions are fine. Just ask more questions depending on the response.
You’re missing the point.
If you use the questions that you mentioned, you’re going to escalate the situation, not defuse it.
@@EchoTangoSuitcase No, I am not missing the point. The cop already escalated the situation by disturbing me for no good reason. I am simply asking why the cop expects me to meekly accept him taking my time and trying to screw me over.
If you think that is escalation, then you must consider bending over and letting them violate you to be simply what you deserve. You need more self-respect.
About 2am one morning I wasn't sleepy so I went out for a short walk and some fresh air. A cop pulls over and begins to question me. While shining bright lights on me he asked if I was on drugs because my pupils looked dilated (I was stone cold sober BTW). Back up came and I was given a field sobriety test under absolutely no grounds. He made small talk with me which led to me mentioning I had been working out at the gym a lot lately. He then asked "Why do you do that?" Seriously! He asked me why I exercise! In retrospect, I should have asked "Am I free to go?" and not replied to any of his inane questions.