1971 Marcos GT - Jay Leno’s Garage
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- Frazer Douglas stands out at car shows with his extremely rare and fully original 1971 Marcos GT.
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1971 Marcos GT - Jay Leno’s Garage
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This is the most British guy I’ve ever seen. His heart doesn’t pump blood, it pumps tea, earl grey, hot.
We all look like that...apart from Jason Statham.
When he takes public transportation, he rides sidesaddle.
Clever insult!
Memphis Dan LeLoLai
I kept waiting for his watch to ring and it be Q calling lol
Vesper martini, shaken not stirred.
As a fellow Brit, this chap is flying the "British chap abroad" flag at full mast. I salute you good sir 🇬🇧
Yes, I agree ..with maybe just a hint of Thatcher era yuppie. I bet he has a nice little pad in Rotherhithe :-)
I do wish my own countrymen would be a little more cognizant of being an Ambassador for the United States when they travel. Mr. Douglas was a superb guest, in each sense of the word.
this dude reminds me of James Bonds cousin or something haha
Last time I flew the 'British chap' abroad I spent a month in a Spanish prison cell for indecent exposure
@@CharlieThunder24 ... Yeah, James Bonds younger brother 👍
"Proper Englishman" Jay nailed that one.
"Are you in the club?"
"I am."
Dude with that hair and that voice, he's the chairman of EVERY club. He's just being modest.
He just didn't finish his sentence... "I am..... the club"
This guy is a living embodiment of 1997 Pierce Brosnan
E C He is piercing
Do you happen to have any grey poupon?
He is an LA based English actor.
I think Pierce Brosnan got it all from this guy.
In... first thought was this guy should be the next James Bond.
Finally jay has invited James Bond onto the show
Good day Mr Bond!
Seriously, he's the American stereotype of a British guy.
Well he looks more like David Bowie to me...
@@brickman409 Channeling Roger Moore for sure!
More like Fred Bond.
That hairstyle has been waiting since 1987. The guy is pure class and he knows what he is doing! He sets fashion trends, not follows!
Brave, too, if he drives a car on original mag wheels from '71...
@@ZGryphon noticed that too lol.. not the usual spinners of the era.. this car has some serious pedigree, Frank Costin (no relation to Mike) designed a little plane for De Haveland , called the Mosquito....now we know where he got the plywood, and all this time we thought he was smoking doobies withe the Morgan boys.. no such rabble, Check out the Mantis Gt, years ahead of it's time ..company still functions ..amazing light cars to order if you have the loot..
@@planegaper Are you sure Mike Costin of Cosworth isn't related to Frank? There are magazine interviews that say they're brothers, eg. www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/september-1984/35/the-cars-of-frank-costin . Obituaries as well .
My name's Douglas, Frazer Douglas
and this is my wife, Ivanna Lottapussie
Better look out Jay , he's wearing Spectre cuff links
you win the internet im geeking hahaha
I bet his daily driver is an Aston Martin.
Ivana Humpalot.... and he's having an affair with Alotta... Alotta Fagina.
THEY CALL ME ..."JAY"....."VA JAY JAY"
The quality of this man's accent is so excellent.
Reminds me of Kelsey Grammer
Hugh Grant level of accent.
presentation and appearance also goes a long way
Aside, while watching, all I thought of was the scene in Ocean's Twelve and the Night Fox explanation montage; Euro-class is still the benchmark
@@icecreamalacarte True. His hair is magnificent, also.
The name is Bond....James Bond
Kidding aside, definitely sounds like he attended an all boys private academy with a proper head master .
I had the joy of experiencing such for a year when my father took sabbatical, I lost that accent quick upon returning to the states.
"Do you think I will fit in this thing?" "I don't know". Just made me laugh. I like this guy
I liked that too, he said it so nonchalant, made me laugh
He has that quiet confidence that is quite attractive
Wow that was a tight squeeze. there are two cars of that era I have never tried to climb into, the Saab Sonett and the Lotus Europa.
@@cymoncyrado2879 It's been a long time, but I've been in a Sonnet II & III and I remember them feeling roomier than I thought they would. I'm 5'11" average to thin build.
That statement reminded me of my youth as a High Schooler who just got his license when the uncle of a friend had a brand new GT6+ Triumph...which I really liked. He threw me the keys and said 'Take it out for a spin and have some fun!'.....Oh BOY!! Then I tried to get in the thing....no way.:( I'm almost 6'4" and he knew damn well I couldn't get in behind the wheel to save my soul. That was cruel...but looking back it still makes me smile. The Marcos reminds me a lot of the GT6+ except it's probably a lot better built and more reliable, faster and not prone to rusting. Very cool car!
Frazer certainly seemed very comfortable demonstrating his car. He has a wealth of knowledge to share.
A great guest. Very entertaining show!
Maybe my favorite guest. Very proper; knowledgeable and polite.
You need to invite this guy back with some of his other rides, Jay.
Think he’s got just the one.
@@Docstantinople Yes, I believe you're right. Also, he's an actor without an impressive resume.
his Honda Civic ?
His other rides are a couple of brunettes
The price of a good clean Marcos just went up 30 percent.
davidbrennan5 that was my thought.
Jay wants this one , Badly
same with jeans shirts, before jay they were at a discount
Yes jay is going to get one - certain. Might also get him onto tvr's
Watching Jay climb/crawl/squeeze into this car just cracks me up, not that I would be any more graceful! He mentioned Le Mans; I was picturing him making the old style Le Mans start, run across the track, swing open the door... and time comes to a crawl as Jay attempts to get into his race car. Finally, the engine comes alive and Jay has to wait for the track to clear as the leaders are passing the start/finish line! It's gonna be a looooong day. ;^)
Oh my. Never have I seen a man match his car so perfectly as this English gentleman to the Marcos. Brilliant!
Seriously?
Funny, I wouldn't peg him as one. A friend o mine owns the same model - steel chassis, Ford V6 - and while he isn't a gorilla, he'd be more typical. This is more of an Aston guy
prophetsnake I would have said Financed old Jaguar.
He's a groovy dude
Man is from the same era as the car.
"Where did the name Marcos come from?"
"Well, it's a portmanteau...". Now there's a word you don't hear often, particularly so beautifully enunciated.
The guy who designed and built it was Jem Marsh and I think his partner was a guy called Costin. - Mar-Cos. Had the chance to buy the ‘barn find’ prototype back in the 70s, which had the plywood chassis but the wife said no !
Jem MARsh and Philip COStin developed the Marcos. Get it? MAR-COS. However the guest mentioned that. Jem (Jeremy) Marsh was an honorable man. Nearly 13 months into the ownership of my 1969 Marcos 3 Liter V6 (Wood) I blew a valve on the Essex (ex Ford Zodiak) V6 and even though there was no warranty because I was in the US and the Marcos was never sold there. There was no arguing. I simply wrote Jem Marsh and told what what had happened. He responded graciously with an apology and shipped me an entire new engine short block to me in Michigan and paid for it's installation as well. They don't make them like that anymore.
You know what? When I was a kid I had a die cast model of this car. It was, and still is, bloody beautiful!
And we found our new James Bond.
Marcos. A Marcos.
Or Top Gear Host
That’s the first thing that came to mind when he stepped into camera.
You actually have. This man is an actor who has appeared in James Bond based films. You can find him on IMDB
Indeed
I think of Jay as more of a car historian, than just a car collector. His videos always make me smile.
He’s also a historian of personalities via the Tonight Show.
One of my favorite episodes ever! Not only the car, although brilliant but the owner as well!!
When Jay mentioned he checked out the prices on this beauty and his honest admiration for it, I'll give you 10 to 1 odds he's already got one in his collection.
Douglas. Frazer Douglas.
Shaken, not stirred.
Keep Calm and Marcos On!
Great comment. LOL
That made me laugh..thanks
Homeboy has a REAL posh accent. Pure Chipping Norton.
I never seen anyone more British in my life.
As many have said, if you went to the UK you would never see people like him, he is the manufactured Hollywood image of an Englishman! Nice car though and he is a million times better than what passes for An Englishman now with their shaved heads and saarf east accent and lowest common denominator mentality or the middle class Ben’s and Will’s who went to uni, terminally bland! No, give me this sort of a Englishman any day over them!
Would you Adam and Eve it ?
Me neither , and I AM British !
@@ianmedium He is a bit of a Terry Thomas, isn't he? The words ''frightful bounder'' kept leaping into my brain every time he was on camera.
I’ve lived in Britain for 50 years and I’ve never seen anyone like him. He’s modelled himself on a non-existent stereotype.
Talking about Jackie Stewart, editor shows of pictures of Stirling Moss 😂
Not many people noticed that, it seems.
I was thinking that Jackie had aged horribly!
I should have noticed that, but I did not. Thank you for mentioning it!
The funny thing is, I once heard Jay describe Sterling the same way he was describing Jackie Stewart. I guess Jay was just so excited driving this car he got mixed up.
I know, right. I'm like Jackie isn't bald!
What a beautiful design aesthetic. I'm a big fan of the late 60's-early 70's Mustangs and Corvettes, but holy cow, this is the next level.
It was designed by Frank Costin, an engineer who as they mentioned had been involved with designing the Mosquito in WWII which was a standout fighter/bomber made of plywood, just like this car was made of at first. I am really surprised they didn't go into more details about him because Costin was a genius and so was his brother Mike Costin who was a co-fouder of Cosworth Engineering! HELLO... they made the Cosworth race car engines? This Marcos car should be worth a bloody fortune and probably will be once people figure out the back story. It feels like a race car Jay because it IS one. This car is the real deal!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Costin
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Costin
@@plane_guy6051 I would suppose they did what they could under time constraints. Thanks for the additional information. There is a reason we call those guys the "greatest generation". The deign and success of the Mosquito was remarkable indeed. Are you familiar with Kermit Weeks? You strike me as the type of guy that would enjoy his youtube channel. (th-cam.com/channels/OC84qwgDHkUPwfeLKL40tQ.html)
It's amazing how much Jackie Stewart looks like Stirling Moss.
Glad I'm not the only that picked that up...
Haha! I was like the editing team screwed up big time. Never knew Jay had met Jackie Stewart though. He still has such grace wen he presents trophies in F1 these days.
I did notice, funny funny funny, may be Stirling can put on an excellent Scottish accent when he feels
Yeah I thought I didn't hear well. It's ok Jay will see it and fixed it!
Yes, that’s a pretty embarrassing mistake to be honest.
Do you expect me to die Mr Bond? No I expect you to drive
Yeah he'd be a good 007 James bond.
"Do you expect me to die? No, Mr. Bond I expect you to drive"
corrected it for you.
That guy looks like the type of person who auctions high end paintings for Bonhams, before scooting off to Chamonix in his Marcos for a vacation of skiing and snogging Swiss teens.
Bang on the mark
Comes across as a bit of a Sloanie but also as a sincere and nice guy
I love chamonix aha need to go back
He's like an Antiques Roadshow furniture expert.
I doubt he goes for teens, even the Swiss variety. He's going to want a woman, not a girl. Someone who knows her way around.
The most English man to ever English, I love it, great car too.
This guy spent all his points on charisma and accent! What a joy to listen to him talk, truly! And what an amazing under appreciated car!
This man definitely has hidden gadgets built into this car. Careful which buttons you push or MI6 will get a distress signal.
I had one of these around 1971. Ex track car. Made road legal. Registered in Portsmouth as PBK1M. Ford cross flow (1758 cc?). Twin Weber’s. Loved it.
Love the interior with some rocker switches and the manual gear changer along with the black interior. Wonderful car. With a very interesting overall shape and light weight, this is a real exotic. AF
*DAMN!* Frazer Douglas is one HANDSOME CLASS ACT!
He would be the PERFECT James Bond!
this guy needs to be casted as the bad guy in any movie, glorious mane on him as well...Bravo
-- He looks like the lead singer of the Moody Blues did when he was much younger.
YEAH, THERE IS SOMETHING CREEPY ABOUT HIM.
Actually, he is an actor ... without an impressive resume.
Got a set of hair on him
@@kimosabbe50 thats the second time you commented that. Do you have so little self esteem that you need to be a nasty person? The man was a great guest, had a very interesting car, and seemed like a pleasure to converse with. What more could you want? You nor I, nor imdb or whatever you searched him on really knows him. Be nice.
Man, that is a beautiful car. Never saw one before today
Its gorgeous.
The also did a miniature version with Mini running gear - called the Mini Marcos (obvs.) Sadly, I'm not sure this svelte design translated quite as well as they had hoped. :-D
i want this car so bad, i can only imagine planning a weekend trip whiles you pilot a marcos. this is one of my favorite channels, thank you Mr. Leno
If there was ever an opportunity for Jay to do his "Ahhhh Mr Bond" routine...
LIKE HE DOESN'T DO IT ENOUGH. AT LEAST THERE WAS NO REFERENCE TO LINCOLN WEARING A TOP HAT IN THIS ONE OR RENTING OUT THE TRUNK TO A FAMILY OF FOUR.
This guy is going to get dozens of calls from casting agencies in LA! He's so smooth!
probably a good enough reason to get yourself on the show.
The owner of this Marcos made this video much more interesting. His knowledge of his car and his command of the language are enchanting. Thanks!
Been to an awful lot of car shows in my day and this was the first Marcos I've ever seen. Beautiful. Love the styling, low profile...long hood. As others have said, the car seems to suit its stylish owner, too. Pleasure watching the interview.
Best video in a while. Great find Jay. This car is completely new to me. Informative.
This car reminds me of a slightly larger Opel GT
Take a flight to Europe and see many for US unknown cars
@@edwardbrown561 I can see where you'd think this too!
Same here. I've never heard of this car before.
This well-coiffed gentleman is very dashing. :)
"well-coiffed gentleman" Brilliant
*I bet "Danger" is his middle name.*
@@RichardCowdrey that was an amazing description of the gentleman, I was hoping someone would comment this!
very affected and conscious mannersims from this ageing guy with a british accent
What an excellent video, and some really amusing comments! You gotta have this guy back Mr. Leno. One of your best guests to date, this guy is real.
Great guest. What a character, and a modest enthusiast. One of my favorite of Jay's videos.
I love this guy, best guest in quite a while
I want to have hair like him lol :-)
Spazik86 I want to have hair !!!
@@amnril i feel your pain sir. I'm 18 and already have less hair than this guy
Holy smokes, this fella might have stepped right outta a James Bond movie
I love Jay's point about anyone can make an expensive car. Not made to a price, but made cleverly for the price.
The hair, the accent, the car... I’m in love 😍
Jay travels in time and meets The Saint, circa 1965.
or even the 'return of the saint'.
Funny thing is, a Marcos GT 1.8 was Featured in One of the Episodes, "The World Beater" , in 1969.
Your camera man is really stepping up his game. Nice work.
It's my brother😊 thank you sir!!
Eric Woytasek it literally looks the same as it has for the past 5 years.
@@alexcorona I have to disagree he has consistently gotten better at least with the editing.
@@bilbobaggins4710 what camera man? There's like 80 people involved in the production.
@@JnixMarshel he is the main dude...Head grip
Great car and great guest. I lived in the UK for 30 years, all through the 1960s and 1970s and only ever saw one Marcos. So they were a rare sight even where they were built. There was also a car called the Mini-Marcos which was based on the Mini but with a Marcos-styled body.
love this episode, and this english gentleman knows his stuff!
Jay and Frazer Douglas would be a great buddy film.
They certainly have chemistry about classy English cars.
One of the best videos in a while, I love Jay’s enthusiasm for English engineering. Makes me proud to be British!
A great example of design being something emotional... such a great car
I have always liked this car. I think in ten years' time this car will be hard to obtain for less than 300K or more. A car worth restoring for sure.
This guy cracked me up, in a good way. I can just see it, moves to LA and thinks, "hmm, what will get me lots of chicks?", takes on the persona of a character from Pride a Prejudice (1995) and knocks it out of the park :)
Love the car, sleek, simple and purely for the love of driving.
Way back in 1962 my mum did B&B (bed and breakfast) in a village just outside Torquay , Devon, England, named Kingskerswell. One day a chap dropped in to stay driving a Volvo Amazon as it happened. He stayed for about a week as l recall but, one moment l do remember is he showed us some plans of a forthcoming car he and his partner were designing. Think you've guessed what it was. Even at the age of nine l could not believe how beautiful the car looked. I even thought it looked better than Uncle Arthur's e-type! The petrol cap looks like it could be from an early XJ6 (obviously fitted at a later date) Someone sussed the rear lights are from a Vauxhall Victor, very well done! As always Jay, really enjoy the show!
quite a story!!!
Thank you for using the word 'sussed'. I've only heard that on a Bob Marley song! Great story as well, it ads to the romance of this video.
Beautiful, thank you.
@Goldfinch wow cool!
Hey, John - greetings from Kingsteignton, about 5 miles from your mum's old place!
This guy is the difference between money and class. Nice car, cool dude.
That guy reminds me of Remington Steele, or The Saint or James Bond.
Neat car.
This guy is like an American’s stereotype of any British guy to the T. Love the car though. It’s beautiful, unusual and sounds like a pop can with a stone in it, but it just draws you right in.
He looks, dresses, and sounds like a hoity-toity auctioneer from Sotheby’s. The kind that doesn’t rattle off numbers like a cattle auction, but instead clearly and meticulously states every number
CorbynBorbyn In the early 1980s I was living in London, and there's one parked in my neighbourhood often, not in the best condition though. Sometimes I wonder what happened to it.
Yes..
maybe an actor?
What comes out of your wardrobe at 120 mph?
Stirling Moth
=))) I nearly choked on my cocoa, damn you...
Frazer Douglas is the coolest guy ever
Once again Jay shows us an obscure car that deserves some attention, and as always shares the stage with the owner. I always feel as if I've just come from school after watching one of Jays videos.
Never heard of these cars. But incredibly beautiful. I love that era and body style.
Me either... and surprised 1200 made... but, then, there used to be 85 brands of cars made in Cleveland, Ohio, USA back in the day...
Back in the 70s and 80s Marcos was equivalent to Lotus, TVR and Morgan, they even competed at Le Mans 24 hours. Their last car was the Marcos TSO reviewed by Top Gear 2006: th-cam.com/video/KiCB6pP6EEo/w-d-xo.html
@@dcanmore check out the mini marcos.
@@simes205 Check out the Marcos LM600 the most absurdly cool looking race car ever i think, its like the TVR Speed 12 but it actually raced.
I remember seeing these cars when I lived in the UK. You didn't see them often but a few pilots owned them. Engine heat is a plus in England.
You ever wintered in Maine?
Hell of a growl for a 3L V6. Beautiful car. From the rear, reminds me of an ISO Grifo.
Except for the nose, I thought the Marcos looked like the Iso Grifo/Bizzarrini in the side view. I think the Grifo is a good bit larger though.
A very interesting, unique sound to be sure.
I know, I got a surprise to hear it was a Ford V6, with that note I was expecting something a little more exotic. I remember when I was younger seeing a V6 Capri that used this same engine around where I lived and that was a very quick car. they were more popular here in Australia because the 4 cylinders tended to be underpowered.
@@catey62 The Capri usually used a 2.6 version of the same V6, which was also used in the Ford Zodiac sedan,
No the 2.6 was a Cologne engine this is a British Essex 3,0 V6@@citronr1
Jay, "Do you think I'll fit in there?"
James Bond, "We'll see."
Current Marcos sellers be like WTF - why is my phone going crazy?
This guy is clearly a villain that Bruce Willis is about to throw off a building.
That stuff gets hard when your'e on a Zimmer!
Top gear should hire this guy he could save the show
That would be good but I have to disagree. Jay has his own show and his own way to do his show...
@@rlanggara6933 how would top gear and this guy have anything to do w jays show 🧐
It is a damn good thing he had an accent or I wouldn’t have been able to tell you two apart.
I wonder which one has more money than fun and which one has both.
They should have spent more time on that amazing dash and instrument cluster. I loved what little I saw.
My god, his hair is perfect!
I saw him down at Lee Ho Fook's the other day.
D Clipper Did he have a big dish of beef chow mien?
@notfiveo No, Mr. Douglas!
@notfiveo Gotcha.
@@dclipper8052 Lol.
Nobody does subtle, understated performance coupled with eloquent beauty quite like the Brits. Love it.
I really hope that gentleman is a voice actor and/or does commercials. He has the kind of voice you would take seriously...
Taillights are from a Vauxhaull. True like Marcos the Elan did use them, but they were made by Lucas for the Vauxhall Victor.
Were they not on the viva also ?
The early HA models had them i'm fairly sure.
I think everyone will be happier if we agree that the Victor had taillights from an Elan...
Definitely lucas
@@ExMachinaEngineering lol
I read "Lucas" and the power went out...
Thanks Jay - Almost bought a Marcos for $5000 bucks until you made this video! Price just went up $45,000!😦
I did buy one for $5500 ... in 1970, one of three in the USA at the time. Mine was a wood chassis 3 Liter V6. GREAT CAR.
Looks like the love child between a Dino and an e type
What about the car?
Cool car and guest, thanks Jay.
This was fantastic, Jay! Thanks for bringing this English Gentleman on the show.. 😃
Fraser is a quintessential English gentleman. I was a regular subscriber to Autocar magazine in the early seventies, there were a few other English "kit car makers of sports cars such as Gilbern Genie and Ginetta,based in Wales. Ogle,and TVR were others, plus of course the Lotus seven, By the way the sunglasses he is wearing are Persol as worn by James Bond in Spectre.
I think the sunglasses worn in Spectre are made by Tom Ford... I apologize if I am wrong.
NJF no, you're correct - I think the producers were quite upset when Craig was photographed hanging around between takes wearing his own Persols when Tom Ford was endorsing the franchise.
Thanks...I thought so. I have the same pair of TFs. Not taking anything away from the Persols btw. Cool specs also. Just out of no real interest to anyone. I went to school with Daniel... Hilbre on the Wirral. Total class, what a school. Difference is I am still waiting for my acting carrier to take off. Lol.
NJF lol I have both TF and Persol glasses - my faves are the Steve McQueen edition 714s
WOW , BEAUTIFUL CAR - dont know how i missed this episode , better late than never , 3 years late
I want this guy as the next James Bond, he’s just so cool and calm
Who else wanted to see Jay try to get out of that car?
Bernard brings in a
1 ton engine hoist and a sling for that.
Ever since he got stuck in an Elise he never shows that part.
Climbs out on his hands and knees!
don't know can you upload videos that long on youtube.
I heard he's still in it, owner won't let them cut the roof off !
*I bet "Danger" is his middle name.*
Holy Cow the owner of a mechanic shop right round my corner has one in british racing green. I was very young when I did my internship there but I sat in one. Never heard of a marcos back then and didn't knew what to make of the brand but I just had to sit in it. Thanks for bringing back those memories Jay!
Thanks for sharing this car and thanks be to the owner for letting Mr. Leno share this wish us. This car has personality and style, just like its owner.
You can always tell when Jay is in love.
This is so different to see compared to some other car you tube channels. Just passionate car guys talking about a cool car no bs. Very refreshing to watch. It warms my heart.
Nice little car on a tight budget! Love the knowledge that Frazer and Jay shared about the history and specs of the car.
In 1978 I got a test ride in an identical blue Marcos with the Volvo engine and wood chassis. The owner did frame up restorations of Mini Coopers in CT which I went to see. The Marcos was gorgeous in and out. Drove well too. Kept my 74 Lotus Europa, but it was a memorable day.
Such a beautiful body style.. I immediately thought of the Shelby Daytona...!! Thanks Jay and Frazer..!!
They ran this type of Marcos at Le Mans during the 1960's. Later the more modified Mantula V8 even quite recently...
Made me think of the Ferrari 250 GTO.
Such a beautiful car! And a pleasure to watch Jay and Frazer together. The two of them have such good on-screen chemistry, they should present more shows together! Brilliant!
nice guy the Englishman, quite a beauty the car.
I love those kind of people who follow their heart
This is one of my favourite episodes. Always loved these cars
That my American friends, is a posh Englishman.
Put on.
@@tomtalk24 Yes totally! But give him his dues he's a good actor (Leno was totally fooled!)! But no proper 'English' gentleman (with a Scottish name) that I know would be seen dead in a cheap costume suit like that - so phony (and don't even talk about the shoes). The accent is more 'acting school' than real life private school. But hey - that's what many people thing an English gent is. I'm sure he is killer with the women in the US though!? (Although the classy women here in Scotland would just tell him to fu#k off and stick his old crap car up his arse).
@@MrArchie800 'classy women in scotland'???? 😃😃😃😃 I don't think so.
James bond with George Michael hair style from the Careless whisper MV lol
Thank you Jay for letting Doug review your F1. Now I'm going to watch this vid.
Ewww.
Let me guess, went on about cup holders XD